Small Town Murder - #299 - STM Express - Wear My Murder Necklace - Daleville, Alabama

Episode Date: July 15, 2022

This week, in Daleville, Alabama, a very creepy situation unfolds, when an awful man decides that he doesn't like the new boy who is dating his teenage daughter. This isn't just a case of an overprotective father, either. This is much weirder than that. This man forces his daughter to lure this boyfriend to a rural area, in the middle of the night, and terrible things happen. This man then forces his daughter to wear the shell casings from the murder bullets, on a necklace. That's just the tip of this disturbing iceberg!!Along the way, we find out that scarecrows are apparently deserving over their own festival, that teenage love shouldn't be this complicated, and that we may have finally found the worst person on earth!!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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at the end of the regular show. You know that, Jimmy. We'll mispronounce your name terribly while trying his best to get it right. That said, I think it's time to get to the story. Let's do this, Jimmy. Let's sit back. What do you say? We clear the lungs.

Everyone out there, do the same and shout. Shut up and give me murder. All right. Let's do this, Jimmy. Let's rock and roll, James. Let's go on a trip shall we we shall let's head on down south way down south this is way down south uh daleville alabama daleville daleville named after a guy named dale or dale you know or the chipmunk uh either way

uh named dale one of them yeah that was one of them, right? It was Alvin. They were chipmunks, right? Yeah. No? Was that Dale? No, it's Chip and Dale. Chip and Dale.

Those chipmunks. Yeah, I'm thinking of Alvin and the chipmunks. Not Chip and Dale. Not Theodore and Simon, James. It was not Alvin, Theodore, Simon, and Dale. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, there's not a Dale in there. Is he like a cousin that came in later, like they added to it when it wasn't going well anymore. We need to spice this up.

Chip and Dale are chipmunks, right? Yes, I think so. Chip would make sense for being a chipmunk. Chip the chipmunk. So Daleville, Alabama. This is down southeastern Alabama, all the way down in the real down. I mean, it's down there. That's swampy, right?

This is as deep a south as you're going to get right here. Alabama has a coast, right? Yes. Yeah. Mobile is down there and's swampy this is as deep as south as you're going to get right here um alabama has a coast right yes yeah mobiles down there and all that this is in dale county daleville and dale county population 5095 here now median income here is a little bit lower than the national average but you can that you can live like that as we'll talk about here median income is like 42 000 here per household per household, which is lower than normal. But median home price here is only $101,800. So you can buy you a piece of some swamp and make a little something of yourself now. A piece of something. A little bit of history, very, very quickly.

They had several regiments of Confederateederate soldiers came from here obviously and uh in 1862 near cleveland tennessee uh several of these men were killed in a train derailment so they didn't even make it that's they didn't even make it to get shot at for christ's got on the train for the war and it fell over it fell over didn't quite work out too well and they didn't quite make it and we didn't make it through the mountains of tennessee and um daleville also victim of an f1 tornado in 2001 and a bunch of i guess tornadoes around that area all sorts of shit destroyed especially restaurants and a couple industrial buildings and some aircraft and uh you know a lot of they fucked everything up. It's a tornado, like a tornado going through a small town in Alabama.

It's a it's a cliche. So a couple reviews of this town. Five stars. I love the small town feel and how everything is close by. Well, it's proximity wise. If you're in a there's really no choice there. The people are friendly and it's and it is in close proximity to larger towns. Yeah, usually most things are.

You can take a day trip to the Florida coast, and the history of the area is vast. It really isn't vast. I gave you most of it. That's really what it is. Day trip to what? Florida coast. Just stare at it. Yeah, ooh, look at that four stars it is a small

city and has a and has is great opportunity and has is great opportunity okay that wasn't me that's written terribly it is it a it a small city and has is great opportunity except for schools wow is this like speak to text or what it is located next to fort rucker who brings lots if jobs and business to the area the schools are great and low numbers of classroom management the schools are great uh jimmy haven't you read this uh that the teachers don't burn too fast okay they don't want to fast it's not two t-o-o it's two so they don't burn too fast. Okay? They don't want to fast. It's not two, T-O-O, it's two. So they don't burn too fast.

So apparently they're not dying to not eat, I guess, is what he's trying to tell us here. Daleville is a place that values family ethics, where everyone just about know each other or went to school together and still want to live in an area. Okay. I don't like this at all. I'm so scared. What is happening? Daleville welcomes changes openly. I highly doubt that. I love my city of growth and development.

I'm scared this is the mayor. That's the thing. I'm scared it is. That feels like a Russian bot. Who says family ethics? Nobody says that. I've never heard of family ethics before. That's that's a business thing.

Yeah. Three stars. The South has really good food, but the lifestyle is very slow and less motivated. Yeah. OK. And then my favorite review of all time. Three stars, apparently from someone who works at a hospital. Quote, we get a lot of gunshot wounds in at the hospital

that's it that's it it's the whole thing gunshot wounds in there plenty of people getting shot so there's that um things to do in this town very exciting as you might imagine the third annual scarecrow festival and car show yeah we have a festival around scarecrows now? They said, quote, last year it was a great event with the addition of a car show and trick-or-treat in the park.

This year, there will also be a pet costume contest. Oh, fucking kill me. Hosted. So adorable. Yeah, but you don't want to meet the people

who have a bunch of dressed up pets. You just don't. If their pets were all in a pen alone, you can look at how cute they are but with the isn't aren't they cute you want to fucking punch them right in the face um hosted by awesome dog grooming join us for fun family fun family friendly time together at culpepper park there will be activities for the kids and adults food vendors and arts and crafts. Yay. Okay. So.

Wow. That's what there is to do. Lots of gunshot wounds. And you can go look at scarecrows and a car show, which I'm always up for a car show, I suppose. Yeah. I don't know what the scarecrows have to do with it. Have a nice tea with your neighbor who dressed their dog up as a ghost.

Oh, God. Those poor dogs. None of them like them. They're just heads sticking out of like there's nothing there's nothing sadder than a sad dog in a costume no nothing so and especially the dogs that look sad anyway like a french bulldog and they got something and it just looks like kill me kill me please it looks like it's begging for death you're like you poor thing i don't want to kill you but i do want to save you disappointed pop is not a little bastard god damn it so that said we know where we're where what we're dealing with here let us talk about a murder that fits in let's do it beautifully into this whole scenario okay let's go back to 1986 i have oh yeah i have to tell you there's going to be

some there's no way to avoid slight stranger things season four spoilers here because sure it's essentially what it seems like the duffer duffer brothers like knew of this story somehow they dug it out of a newspaper archive and found it and then sort of mirrored it in a weird way. And entwined it? It's really fucking weird. I'll just say that. You'll know exactly what I mean once we get to it. Nothing supernatural,

but the dates and the people line up very awkwardly and weirdly. So anyway, 1986 we go back to, Stranger Things Season 4. And even we're going to late March, early April, which is when this is all happening in Stranger Things season four of 1986. This is so fucking weird. It's so strange. And it gets weirder. First off, we need to talk about a young lady. Her name is Melinda Holford.

H-A-L-L-F-O-R-D. Melinda's 15 years old. she's growing up in daleville um she has some stepbrothers and her father who we'll talk about and it's a her name is mel we call her l for short we call her l i'm telling you dude well that's give me a second and chronic nosebleed sweetheart butheart, but you know. We can't keep enough Eggo waffles in the house. It's the weirdest thing. I don't know what it is, but like the stores are sold out around here.

Yeah. So she has a new boyfriend that she just acquired that she's been going out with for a few months. Well, let me get to that. His name, Charles Edward Shannon. He's 16. He goes by what, Jimmy? Eddie. Mike.

Oh, okay. Okay. Why? He goes by Eddie. Okay. Now, Eddie is, he's an 80s kid. He rides a dirt bike around the neighborhood. Sure he does.

He's fucking Eddie from Stranger Things Season 4 almost, except his home life is a little more stable, except not really because it's falling apart. And he's 16 and Eddie on the show is a senior, so he's like 18. But if you go two years forward with where Eddie would be, then it's exactly where he fucking is. So it's crazy. With an electric guitar noodling in his bedroom in no time. I'm telling you, Jimmy, this is the weirdest shit. Eddie's 16 years old.

Okay. Melinda and Eddie. That's a nice little couple. Nice little small town Alabama Jimmy, this is the weirdest shit. Eddie's 16 years old, okay? Melinda and Eddie. That's a nice little couple. Nice little small town Alabama couple. She likes him a lot, by the way. Oh, boy. And he is just crazy about her. All he talks about is my little Melinda, my little Mel.

So she likes him a lot. Now, Eddie's had a hard, hard, hard past year. His stepmom called it, quote, a hell of a year for the family in alabama that's not good that's a bet well they're they just got here from alaska we'll talk about this too there's the kid just got here from alaska it's a weird thing oh man his mother who is his dad's first wife obviously his dad's remarried now his mother died in november of 1985 so his mom's dad died five or six months ago he's a 16 year old kid so right away that's horrible that's that's brutal but it gets worse jimmy you think that's what you think that's all there is what

do you think that's tragedy this is small town murder we'll give you tragedy god damn it you want tragedy tragedy up your ass small town murder did he have to go crawl into the sky and go fight a monster too well let me get to it you never know um he uh shannon who that's his last name i just said eddie um his sister here his name her name's martha she's 20 years years old they just came to live here in Alabama because Martha was seriously ill she's very ill

residents of their last town had raised more than $23,500 in 1985 money for a heart and lung transplant for Martha she needs a heart and lung transplant she's got all sorts of horrible health issues she's had problems since she was little I guess And lung transplant for Martha. She needs a heart and lung transplant. She's got all sorts of horrible health issues.

She's had problems since she was little, I guess. And I guess they were in Alabama. They went to Alaska to or she went to Alaska to visit relatives again. Yeah. And on April 6th, 1986, she died. No. She died, too. So this guy, this kid has lost his older sister and his mom in the last five months. So that's tough.

Holy shit. It's been a tough run for little Eddie here. So he's going to end up in a trailer with his uncle. That's what's going to happen. See what I'm saying? See where this is going, Jimmy? It's all right. It's lining up.

Girlfriend's snapping her own bones in front of him. You know it's going to happen. Well, not his girlfriend but he'd like he'd like to i mean he'd love to he'd like to so he's just melinda melinda's not a cheerleader though that was we'll talk about now okay um they said that her daughter had been placed on a list to get this operation but they hadn't raised all the money that they needed to god damn it the night that she died eddie and his family were at a fundraiser for martha to try to raise more money because that's all they did was try to raise money to save her

life and um the mother or the stepmother says quote we had just come home from a benefit and we had a message to call alaska when eddie heard about his sister's death he went to pieces he had just lost his mother five months before oh god so eddie's having a hard time he needs some friends and some dungeons and dragons and some you know that's what he needs that's what he needs what what did his mom die from uh we i don't know who the fuck no you don't know she died from alabama it was yeah she died she went outside she thought it was solid ground turned out to be a swamp a gator took her down nothing you can do about it these things happen it was shrugged off as just you know every day maybe she was accidentally shot in a hunting accident as they said in the review we get a lot of gunshot wounds around here yeah

you never know it's just a bummer though man to lose your mom and then you're like doing your best you're even going out of your way to to create a way for your sister not to die and then shit don't want your sister to die too and the family doesn't want her to die she's 20 right you come home from an event of doing that to try to help save her and then you get a message your efforts are in vain jesus god lucky for him he has melinda at least he has a girlfriend too and he likes her a lot and maybe part of that might be that he's trying to latch on to somebody. Sure. Maybe she seems healthy.

I don't think she's going to croak anyway. Young and virile. Let's hang on to this. Let's hang on to her. I see health in her future. The problem, I mean, this seems beautiful, right? At least there's something. This is a nice young love.

Maybe it's something good. Except there is one person who is not happy about this relationship at all why is melinda's dad such a dick well philip d halford 39 or halford uh he does not like this relationship at all and that's her dad that's her dad yeah he is not cool with it as you as you suspected i mean who else would care really it's not gonna be his parents his mom his fucking mom and sister just died he could pretty much do anything and they'll be like no it's okay yeah you just want to he could get away with a lot right now yeah he could get away with something very innocent like sweet young love and having an adorable girlfriend and just have a companionship

yeah but you can encourage that he could do fireworks in the living room and they'll be like he's going through a lot right now. He throws jumping jacks at the dogs, but that's just because he's going through a lot. You know, M-80s, the dogs know to move. They hear that hissing and they know to run. So I think it's going to be OK. We just got to let him go through this phase right now. I got to keep my head on a swivel when I make breakfast.

It's OK, though. You know what I mean? Sometimes it's fun. I'll be honest with you. Sometimes I'm not real awake and then bang. Hey'm up who's up now didn't need coffee the bottle rockets help help scramble the eggs it's fun it's fun when he's got the bottle rocket sometimes he gets it it goes right down the hallway from his room and comes out in the living room we're just out here watching jeopardy and then bang and right in front of alex shebeck's face it just explodes i'm like hey i'll take fucking fireworks for 300 alex so

they let's talk about phil here old philly old phil halford he's a character he's not like any kind of upstanding citizen whatsoever oh no right now he's currently facing charges from a raid this month uh from a state officials raided his operation he had in Tallapoosa County, which stolen car. He had a chop shop. He was running a chop shop there. And he's going to judge a 16 year old for a 15 year old girl. That's not what it is.

We'll talk about. So the chop shop here, he's running a goddamn chop shop, which is obviously only the most. You know, anyone who runs a chop shop which is obviously only at the most you know anyone who runs a chop shop if you hear that guy runs a chop shop you go oh boy they're probably pretty nefarious yeah to know that many car thieves to where they know to bring it there and then you're all and then they nobody tells on you that's the most upstanding of their businesses yeah that's what i mean other things happen this is their front yeah this is like their front business to make everybody think they're on the up and up yeah so the talapusa county sheriff said that hallford is charged with receiving stolen property and operating a theft facility

otherwise known as a chop shop investigators said most of the cars the chop shop were stolen from the montgomery alabama area He also faces arson charges. See? As if running a chop shop wasn't enough. Fucking arson charges in both Montgomery and Tallapoosa County, meaning more than one fire. He's burning shit down all over the place. Or a fire that spread across several counties, which I think is worse, probably. I'm going to go with more than one fire, probably.

I'll do possible. across several counties which i think is worse probably i'm gonna go it's more than one fire probably all possible he's facing all these charges as well as a federal parole violation that he was on parole for before he violated his parole by you know burning things and having a shop shop i don't think that's allowed and uh so here he is and uh now this guy going to judge other people. Unreal. Okay. Now, a week, let's say April 5th or 6th, 1986. Okay. Philip Alford threatens Eddie with death, basically. He says, I will kill you if you ride your motorcycle by my house again. Okay. I will kill you if you come by with the dirt bike i will not have that in my neighbor kill you okay kill what what if i i gotta take the long way if i want to go get

what if your house is on the way somewhere you better go around it boy kill do you understand not i'll call your parents and tell them they're annoying me with the sound of the dirt bike and maybe it can be rectified i'll kill you i'll kill a child over it a child whose sister just died this is like i hate this this is like the day before his sister dies he's threatened with death then his sister dies oh it's not good how much do you hate motorcycles and the sounds that you can't hear one pass? It's just how he comes by. It's not a matter of the motorcycle. It's he comes by on the motorcycle. So he said, don't come over here on that damn motorcycle.

It's one of those things. So why is he so upset about this? What is his fucking problem? It's jealousy, Jimmy. What do you mean? He's been molesting his daughter since she was eight. Oh, no. Since she was eight.

That is horrific he's literally jealous and doesn't want his daughter seeing people because she belongs to me that's literally what it is awful she is quoted as saying to somebody quote i was his he didn't want nobody else even looking at me no i this is what i was my this scrambled my brain man i'm like we've we've had a lot of bad people on the show we've had all sorts of bad people but this guy every crime you mentioned just ups the ante man this is buck zoom hoff level you went from you went from car theft to chop it to burn shit to threatening murder to child molestation all the way up all the way up the only thing worse this man's on a golden escalator to the electric chair is he not like he's on a fucking case i hate him going up through the clouds this is like so far we've described maybe the worst person you could

imagine could what could be worse like what could be worse if he was like intentionally selling or handing out fentanyl to six-year-olds like what could be no and then fucking them that's not worse the worst part is also molesting the neighbor's kids well i don't put anything past this guy i don't either he's got all sorts of kids and step kids and it's a fucking mess too so we don't know but his daughter's his main prerogative of of sexual abuse which is horrific obviously this is terrible terrible so the night of april 12th 1986 comes around okay yeah it's late night um now eddie what is he doing late night? He's like sitting around drinking like schnapps and like smoking joints. No, no, no, no, no.

He's shining he and his father's shoes for his sister's funeral. That's what he's doing. He's an angel. He's shining shoes. He's not an angel. But at this moment in time. He's doing something very wholesome. Pretty fucking angelic.

He's literally sitting around going, I'm going to make this nice and shiny. My sister would have been proud. And I'm going to go see her and put her in the ground. This is sad. This is just a very sad activity. I don't even see the television on. It's just a quiet house. You can't have Saturday Night Live on in the background with this.

John Lovitz. And he's Phil Hartman Dana Carvey Nora Dunn Kevin Nealon he's just wiping on Dennis Miller! So that's what's happening.

It's terrible. When the phone rings at midnight. Now his parents are sleeping. They sleep through the phone call. Not sure if there's a phone in their room or what, but he gets the call at midnight, and it's from Melinda. Melinda's on a pay phone at the moment.

Now this makes sense because she's not making phone calls at the house in the middle of the night and eddie knows that if she gets caught calling him then that's bad news because daddy don't like that so um anyway she says hey come out and meet me okay you know let's talk and hang out and shit you know my dad's gone and i can you know sneak out and see you you and meet me by the bridge over here by the river. It's it's less than a quarter of a mile from Eddie's house. So they can both get there very quickly. This is like, you know, the neighborhood we can meet up spot and talk and no one will see us. Bicyclable.

It's exactly super easy. He ends up walking it. I mean, it's that easy. He walks it. So about 1 a.m. he shows up an hour i mean it's that easy he walks it so um about 1 a.m he shows up about an hour later just to finish his shining duties obviously yeah he shows up and uh he finds melinda sitting in the driver's seat of her father's truck oh there so she took the truck and drove there it is alabama i don't think there's a 15 yeah it's crazy yeah it's it's

alabama you just take the truck and go it's this is like the middle of nowhere I don't think there's a 15. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's, it's Alabama. You just take the truck and go. It's, this is like the middle of nowhere. They don't fucking care. So she's sitting in her father's truck alone and, uh, Eddie approaches her, starts talking to her. Hey,

how's it going? Oh, this is good. You know, this maybe takes his mind off of the horrific things that have been going on. Then out of the darkness, Philip appears. Oh boy.

Here comes fucking daddy. And he walks up to Eddie. And what ends up happening, what we find out, is this phone call was made from a pay phone around midnight with the full knowledge of Philip. As a matter of fact, he made her call him and tell him to meet there. And that's what it was. Not only is he there, Philipip but also his 15 year old stepson sammy joe is also there oh sammy so we got phil we got sammy joe melinda and eddie okay um what they did is they drove out there parked the the vehicle and then the two guys, Sammy Joe and Phillip, got out and hid nearby in the shadows. So this is Melinda said that they, quote, squatted down in front of the car and out of sight.

She got in the driver's seat. And then here comes Eddie, comes in, leans in the window to talk to her. Here comes dad out of the shadows. So dad here, Phillip, he approaches eddie turns him around and right away he's grabbing him so there's like a physical struggle immediately like eddie i think senses this isn't good it's the middle of the night and the man who threatened me with death now has a hold of me and uh ain't nobody around to hear me if I'm screaming. So this is not a good. This isn't a good deal. After a quick struggle out of nowhere, a shot rings out.

22 caliber pistol that Philip had shoots, shoots Eddie through the roof of his mouth. Like it goes in his mouth, in the roof of his mouth. Okay. Doesn't kill him. Now it's a 22. So if it can get lodged in something like that there's a lot of cartilage between tissue and brains yeah yeah this was a 45 he would have been fucking his brains are in the river but now it's not so just after the the shot was fired eddie slumped to the ground and he said what did you shoot me for this fucking poor kid i'm just talking to a girl

it's not even like he's i could see if eddie was 24 years old we'd have a completely other than fucking his daughter we'd have a completely different outlook on this thing if she was 15 and he was 24 and she and he said well tell him to fucking meet you by the bridge we'd be like yeah get him go go i don't know about shooting him at that point no but we'd be like fucking ambush him kick throw him in the river who cares i don't know about shooting him at that point. No, but we'd be like fucking ambush him, throw him in the river. Who cares? I don't care. 24 and 15? I don't give a fuck what happens here.

Oh, did I mention, by the way, I didn't because I held it on purpose till right now, Melinda's pregnant as well. Stop that. Yeah, she's pregnant. We don't know. Yeah, yeah. We don't know. Who knows? Oh, boy. hope it's eddie's let's you know

i mean we hope so scenario best case scenario and that's still not a good it's still not great she's 15 he's 16 and he just got shot in the mouth so this isn't a good thing um what did you shoot me for philip answers quote oh my god and both kids heard this by the way both his stepson sammy joe and melinda heard this quote for fucking around with somebody else's pussy what that's the worst thing i've ever heard a father say oh jesus christ how could you sir i want to gargle palm olive dish soap right now just the purple one it's like lilacs i want to fill my mouth and gargle oh my god for oh god he said that don't say it again i'm not i can't hear it i just went ah i can't hear it. I just went, ah, for, ah. I can't even say it. All I can say is, ah. Oh, man, what'd you do that for?

Oh, why'd he say that? I wish he wouldn't have said that. Gross, man. He's like out in the open with what he does. Yes, that's what I'm saying. He's not even ashamed, man. No, he said that in front of his stepson. Right.

Also, what's his stepson thinking? Yeah, only my daddy can fuck my sister like what the fuck are you talking about i get that that's an alabama joke but this is happening that's why there's jokes does sammy joe assume that means my daughter is is uh uh owned property as like i can give her away but does he think that's a wholesome thing to say he thinks no he thinks this is my woman. That's what Philip thinks. Sammy Joe believes that, right?

Sammy Joe is the stepson. I know that. I'm saying Sammy Joe knows. Does he know that he's fucking his daughter? I think it's pretty clear when he said fucking what he said what he said. He's not even hiding it? No. God damn it.

He's been molesting this girl for seven years. The kid knows about it. Everyone in the house knows about it. You can't... Seven years? This isn't two incidents. This is constantly for seven years. This is a known...

Good Lord, man. This is known. It has to be. I wouldn't believe anybody who fucking said they didn't know about this who lived in that house. Seven years is a long time. I'd say bullshit. Absolutely not. fucking said they didn't know about this who lived in that seven years is a long time i'd say bullshit absolutely not so um at this point philip grabs eddie by the feet and starts dragging him

out toward the edge of the bridge starts dragging him out there dragging him so he's dragging him at the time eddie is crying obviously and saying oh my god you shot me oh jesus christ what the fuck you shot me why'd you shoot me he's, you know, he's in a lot of pain. He's been shot in the face. And now he's being dragged through the night by this psychopath who's obviously insane. And I bet you anything that Eddie has no goddamn idea that this girl's been being molested for fucking seven years. He can't know. Guarantee you he doesn't have any idea that this has been going on so he's probably very confused at best about that comment

as well at some point he gets him up on his feet philip gets eddie up on his feet and eddie's able to stand up gains his balance here so at this point he grabbed philip grabs him by his hair and drags him on his feet like a like a wrestler taking him over to the turnbuckle yeah walks him over to the edge of the bridge here okay several minutes pass between the two of them where the kids are back at the car melinda and sammy joe are back at the car they're out of sight right now they don't see what's going on. Three, four minutes go by and then they hear two more shots. And then shortly after that, here comes Philip back to the car by himself. They all hop back in the truck and they go home.

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The discomfort is awful. This is terrible. So what he did is shot him twice more and then threw him in the river. Right. That's what he did. He couldn't hear a splash or anything. He was too far away. He was too far away.

Yeah, I don't think they were that high. It's not a big high river, too. I think it's one of those low-boy bridges. So sometime after the shooting, but before daybreak here, he returns to the scene. Philip returns to the bridge to remove some blood from the bridge that he knew was there you want to clean that off nice so he went back with with some jugs of water and a brush and a rag and washed away the blood spots on the bridge so i'm just cleaning the bridge don't worry about me imagine a cop drives by you have a jug of water

and a scrub brush on your hands and knees on the side of the bridge. Cleaning the bridge. Doing my civic duty, officer. That's all. Salute him. That's right. Just, no, no. If we all did our damn part now, let's say there was 40 other people on this bridge.

We'd have the whole damn thing clean in 20 minutes. Then what? We'd move on to another one and another one and a street. God damn it, we could have the nicest damn town in the South. That's daleville beautiful that's all right to you officer have a good one so he's doing that it's then after day light comes he and sammy joe returned to the scene again to make sure that the body wasn't floating yeah okay it's in a river so if it was floating it would probably be not right there anymore. But just in case it was floating, they brought a shotgun with them so they could shoot the body.

That way, the water, it'll sink more. Oh, needs more shots. Needs more holes in it. Insane. That's the plan here, okay? He's so dangerous. It's fucking crazy. Come on, Sammy Joe.

We bring Sammy Joe with him to do this, which is the other fucking thing. He wasn't, though. They didn't find him. So they walked back, made sure in the daylight, too, that all the blood spots were gone because he clean in the dark. You never know. You can miss some shit. So the next day, his Eddie's family's preparing for Martha's funeral.

Right. And they're like well what the fuck happened where's eddie um they went to bed early they said when they went to bed eddie was still polishing his shoes and uh they said the next morning he was gone and the his stepmother said we thought he just was really upset about his sister and wandered off to think you know who knows kids do teenagers he's having a rough time. That makes sense. She said, quote, We searched all over for him that morning. They went everywhere. They even went over to the Holford residence because maybe he went over to see his girlfriend for comfort. Who knows? So she says, quote, We had to bang on the door when Philip Holford finally opened the door. He said we woke him up because he's been cleaning up murder shit all morning um it was the first time i had ever seen philip alford's face philip and his daughter both denied knowing where eddie was and so we left they just shrugged him no we didn't i don't know didn't see him shit if i'll let you know if we hear from him that's it um so then philip has to

burn eddie's wallet and its contents because he took his wallet from him. So he wouldn't be ID'd, I guess. The both Sammy Joe and Melinda watched him do that. He built a fire in a drum in the backyard and burned the wallet, its contents, which included a photograph and a military identification card. I don't think it was his. I think it was somebody else's. I don't think he was in the military at 15. Probably not. He did a couple

of tours. He's back now. It's good to get it out of the way before you learn to drive, is really what it is. And you come back, you get your license, you have a nice high school experience. It's better. It's a genius move by the military. Nobody suspects he's the assassin. No. They don't suspect it at all. And even over there, you can send a kid over there and

nobody expects child soldiers from an American army. They're just not expecting it. It comes out of nowhere. So while burning the wallet, he says to Melinda that, Jesus Christ, that Eddie was, quote, a cheapskate because he didn't have any money in his wallet. What? Yeah.

You don't know? Cheapskate. First of all, too, it's one in the morning and he's fucking 16. where do you think he was gonna buy things at on the bridge at 1 a.m who is it gonna be out there selling shit the hot dog cart gonna be all his money's in hearts and lungs right now you know how much those things cost that's the other thing yeah he's doing all of that cheapskate what he wants to buy his sister a lung what a fucking cheapskate this is christ god damn it's spring for something so he also showed her a picture of a girl that he took out of the wallet and said see he was wasn't faithful to you see he was a scumbag he deserved it so

meanwhile who knows who the picture was probably a picture of his sister or a classmate or some girlfriend that he went out with fucking last year who knows who cares it doesn't matter friend to his when you're a teenager you have pictures of your friends like that you know what i mean if a girl gives you a picture you keep it i don't know thanks especially if she's pretty you know you show it to people i had pictures of babies in my wallet that weren't mine so that's weird nephews and shit oh that's okay that's all right if you're like holding them that's fine it's just a just a kid sitting there is like jesus what's he doing philip have been like see he's got seven kids elsewhere i told you it's no good i knew it god damn it so

yeah that's that but the thing is too that the the day the evening that eddie went missing eddie's father said he gave him ten dollars so So, and he saw him put it in his wallet. So there should be $10 in that wallet. At least $10. We think he's lying on that. Now, the gun. How do you get rid of a gun? What do you do?

I don't know. There's a bridge. A bridge. Well, also, you're in the Alabama woods and swamp. There seems like a vast, you could take the gun apart and throw pieces five miles apart. I mean, that seems like a good plan something like that he has a different way though of course of course he does things a little differently put it up his own ass that's a daughter's a sexual object and guns just can't

be scattered and taken apart there's he does things a little different he tries to destroy it's 22 pistol by melting it down in an old tire rim he gets a tire rim to use as like a base puts the gun in it and then gets an acetylene torch and just tries to melt the metal of the gun down just melt it into a pile of undistinguishable metal yeah that's his plan you gotta get that awfully hot well i would say while he's melting the pistol, he had his 13-year-old son, let's bring another child into this murder plot here, Jack, act as a lookout for him. Okay, this is going to be a long time with just a settling tour. It's going to take you a while.

That's why you need a lookout. I'm going to be here for like three, four days. So if you want a pack of lunch, I got you all a sleeping bag and a little tent and I'll get you an iPad and you can watch your cartoons and whatever you want to do. lunch i got y'all sleeping bag and a little tent and uh get you an ipad and you can watch your cartoons and whatever you want to turn it to liquid jesus turn it to a pile of metal he told him that the kid that was acting as a lookout that while he's doing it quote they won't know what this was they won't find no evidence that's what he said so um he then and this of all the things that we've said so far there's been a lot of sick shit going

on there's a line we don't even want to repeat that's how shitty it is okay oh boy this might be his most brazen terrible awful act yet um on so many levels okay he drilled holes in the empty shell casings from the pistol that he used these are the murder shell casings that he used to kill this boy and made them into a necklace. Then he made, forced Melinda to wear the necklace, quote, so she'll remember. Oh my God. You have to wear the murder casings of the bullets that killed your boyfriend around your neck to remember that you know what is, you know who's.

That's what the fuck this is. Unbelievable. Is that the sickest thing we've heard so far? The discomfort is too much. I'm horrified. That's what I mean. This is like much. I'm horrified. That's what I mean. This is like fucking Fritzl level bad. This is, you know, when you know, when you go to the bathroom and like it's like really

awful and you and you use your weight on the toilet bowl and then drag your feet on the ground to feel a little bit of comfort. Do you ever do that? That's what I'm doing right now in my chair because I feel so awful. It's very, very bad. I'm telling you, this is not good. Oh, my. i feel so awful it's very very bad i'm telling you this is not good oh my uh he then told his 18 year old stepson another one cecil wayne this time yeah so cecil wayne um shortly after this

that quote i wouldn't have to worry about him talking about eddie no more and quote i got rid of him so are you telling so many people phil he's told four children so far no but two witnessed it one's a lookout while you melt down the gun and the other one he heard you say i murdered him so there's that now one week later this is fucking weird and i don't know how it happened a week later found him in a week no one's found eddie they're searching for eddie they're looking everywhere for eddie much like in stranger things they're searching everywhere for eddie the swamps the backwoods this is where i mean it's fucking really weird right it's a long walk about eddie and then a week later though he's still not found his parents his dad and his stepmom get his driver's

license in the mail it just comes in the mail if you drop a driver's license in the mail. It just comes in the mail. If you drop a driver's license in the mail, the post office will deliver it to the address on the driver's license. That's a thing. So if you ever find a wallet and drop it in, that's what they do. But this is just the driver's license by itself came. The driver's license was in his wallet, Jimmy. Did he fucking mail that back to them? He had to have. Did he drop it out and who went in his

backyard next to the acetylene torch and then who fucking mailed it back melinda did she do it maybe did she feel bad and do it i don't know who mailed this fucking license back someone in that have a heart someone in that family had to have done this right yeah i mean so they got the driver's license and they're like what the fuck okay? Okay, well, somebody found something, obviously, but there's no story behind it, just a driver's license. And they said they loved that they got to keep it because that's the most recent picture they have of him. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's what they got. April 26th, 1986, two weeks later, there's a couple of people fishing out on the river.

Never go hunting or fishing or try to enjoy yourself outdoors at all. Don just don't do it and shut the lights off we told you this multiple times there's plenty of shit to watch on tv you can stream anything you want stay inside you're gonna find a horribly decomposed teenage child boy person and if this story is this show is any experience for you uh stay in your room, shut the doors, lock the windows, shut the lights off. Don't talk to anyone. If you want to go fishing, don't worry. Somebody's going to murder you and throw you in a river.

You'll go fishing in no time. Or, yeah. Or you'll find someone that that's just happened to. That's either one. It's going to happen. Your day will be ruined, though. It's not going to be relaxing. You're going to have to talk to detectives at some point during your fucking fishing

out. This is so fucked, man. They they finally found him he's badly decomposed in the water obviously um been eaten by things and everything else so once they find him immediately the suspicion turns to philip based on several factors so what does he do try to act innocent go i don't know what you mean i took care care of the evidence. No, no, no. Takes the fuck off. Yeah. Grabs his daughter and takes off. Oh, gross, man.

That poor girl's in so much danger. Yeah. With a with her bullet necklace and everything. So a federal warrant for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution has been issued because he's also up on all those other charges and a federal parole violation. So they have a lot of leeway to have people go after him um and it all put out an apb for him the whole deal man a description of his car the whole deal about 2 a.m may 23rd 1986 so this is a fucking a month later the pensacola florida police department found month they got to pensacola, Florida Police Department found month. They got to Pensacola.

Would they walk? Would they say you could? I was just going to say you could have fucking skateboarded or done like a tandem bicycle ride to Pensacola, like a leisurely tandem ride. We take off the pedals once in a while and then stop for lunch at a cafe on the sidewalk and leave the bike park there all the way to the other side of the border that's it not far uh may 20th i can't imagine how much money can he have you know that's what i'm saying i got we got 10 bucks so they find his car parked out there and uh the officers knock on the door of the motel room and melinda answers the door yeah with the fucking murder weapon shell casings on her neck through the open door the police see we such a fucking idiot this phil

halford he's they see him trying to hide under the bed his like feet are sticking out and they're like anybody else here with you darling nope nobody at all and his feet are sticky you just see new balance shoes sticking out of the back you're like what the fuck he's like horton with that horton here's a who he's just hiding under a blanket you're an elephant sir in the middle of the bed yeah with what's like he's smoking a cigarette there's smoke pouring out of it sir sir we see your cigarette so they see him under there um and um but there was a delay too by the way after they knocked on the door she didn't come right to the door it took a while she gets to the door but it is also the middle of the night so right but a 14 year old answers the door and says no i'm the only one here just what are you talking about you get get out

here just me and this pretty substantial murder evidence that's all just just me so they pull him out from under the bed and you get out here stupid what's your name and he gives him a name that's not his name obviously right um they then they end up talking to melinda outside she correctly identifies him as yeah i'm so and so this is my dad he's arrested with the federal warrant and all that sort of shit they secure the room and the car uh the search warrant is executed the next day and they end up finding a sawed-off shotgun in the motel room as well whoa this guy's fucking dangerous there he really that says like he seems like he would be like i'll fight i'll fight it out but he thought they just wouldn't notice him

under the bed that's what that tells me He was like, it's all right. I'll just hide under the bed. It's fine. They'll just assume a 14-year-old rented this hotel room for the night. They'll just assume that, especially because the motel room is registered in the name of James Boyington, who that's obviously this 15-year-old girl. And Boyington is a guy who rented the hotel room and allowed fucking phil to use it but he also consented to the search of the motel room also so that makes any kind of search shit irrelevant um also they would never identify the melted down 22 well the remains of

the pistol were recovered and identified by a firearms expert as a.22 caliber pistol. That didn't work out quite as he thought it would anyway. Phil, you chop cars, not guns. Stop it. Not good. Yeah, maybe that's what he thought. It's like a Ford Falcon. You just do the same shit. You need to take the door off. Now, an autopsy reveals three bullet wounds made by.22 caliber bullets.

All three recovered from Eddie's head. Oh, my God. One bullet entered the roof of the mouth, one in front of the left ear, and one in the forehead. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. Any of the fired bullets, because it could have caused death, they said. So, any multiple gunshot wounds. So, they indict him, obviously.

While in custody, they found melinda initially uncooperative she's gonna fucking stonewall him she's gonna she's scared to death of this guy yeah she's gonna be be hard now and shit so um she wouldn't speak with them um so they ended up arresting her i'm like well fine you're a fucking accomplice then um she also jesus christ um she denied she denied even having a relationship with eddie at that point she was like well i don't i don't even know him i knew him from like you know around but i don't i wasn't his boy i wasn't his girlfriend he didn't i wasn't thinking that he was maybe the father of my child none of that happened that's what she's saying no she's pregnant, right? Yeah, they do. Yeah, she tells them.

So she denies being anywhere near him, by the bridge, any of that shit. But then she strikes a plea agreement, and all of a sudden she's now going to cooperate. She agrees to testify against her father in exchange for the prosecution to not prosecute her as an adult. So it was never put in writing. It was just a handshake deal. So during the court, during later on at trial when she testifies, it doesn't come out that she has a deal because it's not in writing yet. So that's a little shady.

I don't like how they did that. That's not great. She ended up pleading guilty to juvenile delinquency based on a charge of criminally negligent homicide. That seems that's more than delinquency. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

I shot out a couple of streetlights and a kid in the head. And that's that's what I put a I put a dry ice bomb in a mailbox level of punishment. That's not OK. No, this is very, very bad. She ended up serving or her sentence was to serve no more than six weeks in a juvenile facility. Wow. Which, you know what? It's not her fault.

She's a 15 year old girl who's been being fucking raped by her father for seven years. And her father, who seems a little domineering, told her to do this. I don't think she had much of a choice in the matter. She wore the bullets on her neck after as a reminder to her what happens if she strays from dad. That's bad. Now, Eddie's family. God, this is terrible. His father says, quote, maybe if I could have stayed awake longer that night.

Oh, dad. No, no, no, no, no. His stepmother jumped in and said there's a quote there was nothing nobody could have done eddie was crazy for that girl um they then said they had to borrow money on their car to pay for they had to get a car a title loan to pay for his funeral oh my god oh my god jesus christ known and i wish i would have had two grand for him that is fucking terrible. That's the worst. She also said of the stepmother said of Philip Halford,

quote, he wasn't even human. Why did you do it? Why did you harm Eddie? Why did, what harm did Eddie do? He then said he could have just told us to keep Eddie away from his daughter and if that's what he wanted, he didn't have to shoot him.

If he said that, we would have said don't go near that girl anymore. Now, the state is going for the death penalty here based on especially cruel uh and heinous and the fact that they're saying it's in the course of a robbery because dad said he had uh eddie's dad said he had 10 bucks in there so yeah um is it not an aggravator if you do something like that while you're while you have warrants? Not to the death penalty like this.

It has to be in the commission of the act. If he was running a chop shop and killed somebody during the commission of running a shop shop, that would be different. But this has to be in the commission of the act. It seems like he committed a crime in the commission of evading law enforcement. Yeah, but that's not an aggravator. It should be. When you're killing someone, you're committing a crime and evading law enforcement you know what i mean so that would be that wouldn't hold up this is horrifying though this guy should not be anywhere near the street

i don't want him even looking at a street let alone no fuck no fuck no he's a bad bad person it's either life without parole or death penalty that's what he's getting either way so that's good um some jesus christ melinda is gonna testify against him he testifies he tries to blame one of his other children this is amazing um he testified that he disapproved of a lot of things that his children did such as quote smoking dope and he said he was a strict disciplinarian he denied committing the murder and instead he just said i'm just a good father oh my i'm a good father that's why um you know i did this because i was or didn't do this but i was just being a good father concerned about my daughter but i didn't kill anybody this is crazy um okay so that's what he testifies for, too, which is fucking insane.

Is that a worse statement because it's so untrue? It makes it way more ballsy and way more brazen and bald-faced. It's fucking ridiculous. He also tries to get an alibi going for his whereabouts on the night of the killing and attempts to cast suspicion on Cecil Wayne Robbins, his stepson, by claiming that he had seen Cecil burning a bloody shirt the day after the killing. And he tried to say, I don't care what my kids say under testimony. They all have drug problems. Then you're a terrible father.

I'm a good father. I fuck my kids while they do drugs. I'm a good father. So Cecil Wayne Robbins testified that yes i was learning this is amazing i was burning a bloody shirt but you know why i had to burn a bloody shirt because my father stabbed me that morning that's why my so my shirt was real bloody because he stabbed me good father stabbed his stepson that morning yeah i'm a good father this is what i'm talking he's the worst guy ever is he not this is the worst man um they have a big argument in court

over whether a photograph of of eddie is going to be included in the in evidence and it's not even like an autopsy photo it's just a photo of him they're like they said it's it's too uh you know makes him seem too nice and too that's a defense person and that's not fair it shows him happy to be alive we can't have that you got one of him like you know with like a gun in his mouth maybe something like that you got any of him uh fingering an underage child that would be great i i feel is there a picture of him next to jeffrey epstein do we have one of those is that in the files he went to the island i swear to god has he been to r kelly's recording studio where has he been so um this is fucking ridiculous so anyway melinda's on the stand and they ask her quote melinda last spring was eddie shannon your boyfriend yes sir she says late last spring late uh late in spring did you have a sexual

late spring and late last spring late in in 1985 it's said so weird did you have a sexual relationship with your father okay the defense objects says that's leading and highly prejudicial i ask for a mistrial so damaging to my case it makes you know how bad that makes my client look it's really bad it's it's like worse than murder it really is like murdering a stranger is worse than is not as bad as fucking your own daughter for seven years i feel like so the judge says motion denied and definitely overrule that objection let's hear about this um so they said did you and she said yes sir and they said did that involve sexual intercourse she said yes i'm going to object this is not material this is so bad the judge says uh overruled this is juicy as shit

and horrible and i want to see this guy fry even worse now yeah so she says quote oh god um my father had been having sex with me and claiming i was his wife in his perverted mind i had an affair and he was i i don't i don't have words for that um so she she testified to what happened that night um you know the actual murder and um everything that happened happened. She dragged him away and that was the last she saw. Everything like that. It's bad. It looks real fucking bad basically for him. Not good at all.

And they deny the mistrial and all that sort of thing. So Eddie's stepbrother testifies as well and says that Eddie always carried a wallet, which he kept his identification card. His father described that they all described the wallet, said they had he had money in it and all that sort of thing. So, oh, Sammy Joe also testifies against him. He yeah, that's not great. Matches all the details that Melinda said. So corroborates that also testified that they returned to the scene to wash more blood from the bridge and make sure the body was undetectable identified the shotgun that they had in the room is the one that they carried with them to shoot him in case he was floating um it's a lot man it's a lot um

so the verdict comes in not surprisingly i'm surprised they adjourned and jump out of the box and start beating the shit out of him this is is one of those, not the first case where the bailiff said to hold jurors back from attacking somebody. He's found guilty as fuck, I believe, was the official verdict. Like a couple weeks ago, the lady was legally declared a whore. This is a, yeah. Adjudicated a scumbag. Scum. Yeah.

So adjudicated a scumbag scum during sentencing. The only person he brings in to for mitigating evidence is his mother who pleads for his life. No reason. He's a useless person. He has nothing going for him in society. He owns a chop shop, molests his daughter. He's an arsonist. Like he's a bad fucking guy. So there's not a lot.

Everything awful. So the verdict comes in by a jury. By the way, this doesn't have to be unanimous here at this point 10 to 2 vote um they say you sir may fuck off death in the electric chair in the chair and they're like can we electrify the chair he's in currently just right now can you just lazy boy that swivel chair does it have yeah can you just rip the wires out of that lamp and just shove him in this guy's ear while he sits there please can we do something we really hate him so it was murder occurred during a robbery and it was especially heinous atrocious or cruel so it was the first time in 67 years that someone in dale

county has been sentenced to death. Is that right? 67 years because it's just a small place. They said his stepmother, Eddie's stepmother, said that she doesn't think the nightmare will end for her family until he, quote, sits in the chair. She said, I could have jumped and shouted for that, but she was happy about it. He appeals based on the fact that he's saying it wasn't a robbery and that they didn't know that melinda had a plea deal set up in place so it basically comes out with well we think you took ten dollars that's a robbery and melinda's plea deal whether she had it in place or not that's what happened it was corroborated by somebody else so it couldn't it wasn't like

she did it to get a plea deal so that doesn't matter her testimony would have been the same either way uh they're saying if the jury knew about the deal they wouldn't have discounted her testimony anymore because the stepbrother backed them up backed her up so it's fine so uh yeah they do all of that shit um so uh it's denied fuck you okay another and that by 1988 a new trial is ordered for him based on the melinda thing but an appeals court strikes that down in 1989 and says no no kill him they said considering the crime committed and the defendant and the defendant considering what an asshole this guy is and what he did that's what they said considering the crime committed and the defendant considering

what a huge flaming gaping asshole this man is. I've never heard that before. No. Considering the charges and the way the trial proceeded. Also, that guy sucks. I mean, think about his character. He's a total douchebag. We find that the sentence of death is neither excessive nor disproportionate to the penalty imposed in similar cases.

They said appellant bored holes in the empty shell casings from a pistol and then made them into a necklace he made melinda wear the wreck necklace so she would remember he's a piece of shit yeah um yeah the jesus and the shannon family said eddie's family they're like we don't want to fucking go through another trial we can't do that again the mother said or the father said that he is a recovered quote almost alcoholic i don't know what that means i've never heard that term before you're an alcoholic sir so then you're almost recovered is that what that means hi i'm i'm so and so and i'm almost an alcoholic i don't think they let you get away with that

they're like you gotta go the whole the whole fucking nine chief so has said his friends worried that he would go back to drinking because of the bad year and all that kind of thing. It's been very hard. And yeah, he said it's been difficult. 1994, the Supreme Court denies his appeal in the case as well. What the fuck? Go fuck yourself. So, so much time. Philip and the execution date is set.

Melinda, the daughter, said, thank God. I'm so so happy i'm ecstatic that he's going to be killed yeah november november 5th 2010 he's supposed to be killed by lethal injection finally because they didn't have the drugs for a long time so he spent his final hours visiting his mother final meal jimmy oh god thank fuck it's about time it's the worst final meal ever it suits him perfectly did he pick his final hours visiting his mother. Final meal, Jimmy. Oh, God. Thank fuck. It's about time. It's the worst final meal ever. It suits him perfectly. Did he pick crawfish?

He declined a final meal, like a special one, and instead said, I just want some shit from the vending machines. Gross. So he had cheese and crackers, like cheese crackers. I don't know if they were the yellow ones or the orange ones. Was the handy snacks with the fucking little flat knife? No, no, the fucking no no no the sandwiches no okay not one of those not those those are great though nacho cheese bugles oh gross which the ranch are a much better choice

as we know for a road trip plane even yeah and a ham and cheese sandwich from a vending machine gross what's the matter was the gas station out of deli meat what the fuck are we talking about and then a dr pepper to wash it all down proved that he earned this this the fucking sentence he earned that meal all of it now melinda said quote it will at least give me a sense of closure by the way she's married has three kids at this point when this is happening and she said it will give me a sense of closure and help me not be afraid of him anymore i've been afraid my entire damn life he was going to kill me or send somebody after me to kill me. I hate myself. I hate the fact that I was ever born.

I hate the fact that this person is my father, this poor fucking lady. I want to kill him myself. I still have to live with the fact that a 16 year old boy was killed because of me. Wasn't because of you. Wasn't because of you. It's about,

it's about time. Come on now. It's been time come on now it's been 21 years justice should have been given to us a long time ago and then uh he's he is killed with uh no final words by the way nothing she said she was pissed off about that they said they told her he didn't do any final words and she said i'm sorry to hear that she said that uh basically being sexually abused by him was a nightmare she lived with for years and the fact that she had to wear the necklace shell casing she said quote you can't imagine what it was like i was kind of a zombie after that well no shit jesus christ and uh the shannon family as well very happy his brother

says it's finally justice for my brother and we're the ones here to stand up for him. It's been way too long. I think there may be some justice, but my biggest thing is why did it take so long? So there you go. So that is Dale's fucking shit Alabama. Wow. Is it? Is the baby?

Don't know. I don't know. Let's just say it's Eddie's and move on. Let's just say it's Eddie's and hope for the best because I'm horrified. So much. But it sucks because Phillip had so much more access to her, which makes it horrible. That poor fucking girl and that poor kid. The poor everybody.

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He claimed and confessed to officially killing up to 28 people. With a touch of humor. I'd just like to go ahead and say that if there's no band called Malevolent Deity, that is pretty great. A dash of sarcasm and just garnished a bit with a little bit of cursing. This mother f***er

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