Small Town Murder - #329 - The Warlock Test - Eyota, Minnesota

Episode Date: October 28, 2022

This week, in Eyota, Minnesota, a group of young, drifting restaurant workers form what they call a "family". All of this around a guy they call the "High Priest", who leads this little group, in both physical aggression, and some sort of alleged dark powers. This all comes together on Halloween weekend, following the gifting of deadly knife, and a near murder, or two. By the conclusion of the night, we end up with the horribly mutilated body of a "family" member, complete with odd carvings, and all fingers pointing at the victim's friends. Will a particularly paranoid book on the occult make the court case a sham??Along the way, we find out that there isn't a lot to do in western Connecticut, that just because you have your own followers doesn't make you a high priest of anything, and if someone tells you that it's time for you to do "the warlock test"... RUN!!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And choo-choo! Oh, yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. All aboard the murder train, pulling away from the station. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you, folks, so much for joining us today. We have a crazy Halloween episode of Small Town Murder Express just in time for the holiday.

We have it. It took place over Halloween weekend after a Halloween party. It's got all sorts of Halloweeny things going on in it. Yeah. Candles and blood and weird stuff. You can smell the makeup. Oh, you can smell it. So we'll get to that.

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Everybody out there, it's time to clear the lungs. What do you say there? Wherever you are, hopefully not too public of a place. Clear the lungs and shout, Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this, Jimmy. Okay. Let's go on a trip, shall we?

Let's do it. We are going all the way to Minnesota this week. Yeah. Now, I wanted to do, because we did an express last time for Minnesota, so it was due for a regular episode. But this story is perfect for Halloween, and it needed to be told today. So the content takes precedence over schedule at that point. We have to do it. So we're going to Iota, Minnesota. Iota, Minnesota. Yeah. Is there anywhere else that rhymes with the state like that? I'm sure there is, but this is really hilarious. That's

way better. Iota. I don't know if it's Iota or Iota or Iota. Iota? Iota. Let's A-ota or E-ota or A-yota. A-yota? A-yota. Let's go A-yota, Minnesota. A-yota, Minnesota. And that would be a car? Is it like that? Well, an E. There's a yota on there like Toyota, but it's E. It's E-y? E-y-o-t-a, Minnesota.

Okay. There we go. Southeastern Minnesota. Damn near Wisconsin over there. It's in Minnesota's little panhandle in the southeastern part there. That's where it is. And this's little panhandle in the southeastern part there. That's where it is. And this is all panhandle right here. Two hours up to Minneapolis,

so pretty far from there. It's right outside Rochester. That's the one that, Rochester, Minnesota, that's the nearest bigger town. About two hours and ten minutes to Ham Lake, which was our last Express episode,

which was, go on out there and get yourselves a honey baked, everybody. It's honey baked season. They're running now. The honey bakes are running. And so you want to get in there.

They're in a hurry. You'll be late and you'll get brown sugar. You don't want that. Now, population of this town is about nineteen hundred ninety two people. So less than two thousand. It's down 14 percent since 2020. So there are people fleeing for some reason. Median income here, household income, is about $70,000 a year, which is above the national average.

Holy shit. And the median home price is just above the national average. Just add, actually, $315,000 is the national average. Wow. So history of this town, not a whole lot going on here. So there isn't a a lot of history they platted the town in 1864 uh the the name means greatest or most it's derived from a sioux indian word so oh that's where they got it from uh they've had a post office since 1864 all that

kind of shit the earliest settler here was named Benjamin Bear. That was his name. Is it? Uh-huh. Yeah. He's a native or a white guy? No, no. He's a white guy. Benjamin Bear.

White guy named Bear? Just happens to be named Benjamin Bear. Yeah. He has a friend, too. His name was Jonathan Running Elk, which he, that was a big coincidence. It was strange. Another white guy. Just another white guy.

Irish guy. Yeah. Strange, right? He's just from the Running Elks. It's one word. It's actually a tiny village in Ireland, and and they named after it. I don't know. So either way, he came in 1853 to he wanted to choose a site with an ever flowing spring. And he found one here and then returned the following year with his family. The stream is called Bear Creek. It starts from the spring around there and all that sort of thing. is called bear creek it starts from the spring around there and uh all that sort of thing uh the railroad was the big employer over the years as many of these small towns are there's not much going on they laid the streets out on farmland that's how they they did this in september 2022

the last i just saw they closed the last bank in town they They have no more physical banks in town. So you can't physically. Thanks for the apps, guys. Yeah, but you can't physically go get money out if you need it. You can't go grab cash. You're going to go buy a used car or something. I'm sure, but how much can you get out of that? What, 300 bucks or something?

800 bucks a day. Yeah, so whatever it is, I don't know. That's the max. Depending on your bank, it's that. But it's not going to be if you wanted to go buy like a you know a 76 duster that you found that was rusty and you wanted to hook up i hope it's you better haggle them down under 800 bucks please take a check no you won't they won't take a check because then they have to drive to the bank god damn it these fucking banks so uh reviews of this town only a couple because it's a very small town but

and they're they're pretty good, actually. People seem to like it here. Four stars. The people are kind and friendly, but there aren't very many hot spots. No shit. 2,000 people. Wow. What are you looking for?

What kind of hot spots are you looking for? Let's get everybody here, all the old people and the kids. No boo would open one of those Asian food restaurants around here. It's a hot area for it. The most exciting places are Quick Trip and Dollar General. There's that. The Dollar

General is an outing. Come on, honey. It's date night. Let's head on down to the Quick Trip for some hot dogs and then we'll go to the Dollar General while we walk around and eat our hot dogs. That is something. Holy shit. Let's get on down to the Quick Trip for some hot dogs, and then we'll go to the Dollar General while we walk around and eat our hot dogs. That is something. Holy shit. Let's get one of those frozen Wally drinks and head on over to Dollar General for a family pack of Twizzlers.

Oh, man. It's going to be wonderful. Big Friday. Three stars. Iota is a very close community. Everyone is really friendly and willing to help others out. It's also a safe town and not many bad things happen here. We'll find out about that.

Don't tell James. There's no need to be scared while walking home or walking to school. Iota is a good community to live in and I'm grateful that I do. Okay, this is like a teenage girl probably yeah very succinct words yeah uh think injunctions things to do here we go okay contraction it's yeah you know i know for some reason that's it translated in my head to contraction yeah uh iota days 2022 here oh boy um let's see here there's a kids pedal tractor pull. Of course. Pedal kids. There's a home run

derby. That sounds pretty cool. Not bad. That sounds fun. Family bingo. That sounds like a fucking nightmare. Imagine family bingo. Little kids running around. They don't know what they're stamping. That sounds like a disaster. Holy shit.

How many times do you go you don't have bingo tommy sit back sit back down no i didn't call that number jesus christ there's a beanbag tournament i don't know if they mean cornhole maybe possibly not called cornhole in this area um then there's also a movie night that That's Thursday. Friday night's family fun night, of course. You can't mess with that. There's hay rides, all sorts of runs, which doesn't sound very fun. And, of course,

DJ music by Big Tony. Big Tony's going to be there, everybody. Rock out to whatever Big Tony's got to offer. Saturday, they're going to close it out strong with the men and men's and women's softball games, followed by the chicken feed. Oh, do you just feed chickens?

I don't know. Well, we've been so busy all week. They haven't been fed. I guess we've been doing everything here. There's also live music. The bandanas are playing at 12 30 p.m on a saturday and then bob schleef will be there as well so everyone music or they're just saying he's attending he just might be there at three o'clock he's just scheduled to attend at three o'clock

and then there's a baseball radar challenge as well like i see how hard you can throw and a three-on-three bucket bash tournament i hope that's basketball i'm not sure though what are the chances these people know who all all mlb players are if you're like a a triple a player or something you should pop into town oh yeah clean up ringer at that fucking game just feel like i was a stud and went a big teddy bear. Crush everybody. That said, let's talk about a murder.

Let's talk about a murder in this tiny safe town. To do this, we have to go back in time. And this is like the perfect Halloween time to go back in for murder. Halloween 1989. Isn't that perfect?

I was going to guess 87. Oh, man. It's right in the wheelhouse of just Halloween's acid-washed jeans. It's hard to say. Are all over the place. This is a mess. Mullets and acid-washed jeans. Recently, within the last 15 to 20 years, Halloween's gotten a real kick in the ass and turned into something special back then it was you go down

to the grocery store and you buy this the dumbest that fucking rubber band with the staples on it yeah that sort of looks like a cartoon character real thin plastic costume that you put on and rip the armpits on the first try like a terrible dollar store shower curtain with with dye and stuff on it and that way i look at me i'm he-man now great two rubber things that you would tie together behind it was terrible now costumes are amazing now well now costumes are crazy because now adults got into it so they're like i'm not wearing that shit i have to look great when i do it so now the kids need it too and it's turned into a very huge thing so halloween 1989 let's talk about some people here

first off wayne edward lang we're going to talk about okay he's 22 years old he uh his parents he comes from a big family there's six kids in the family um his parents are genevieve and kenneth lang and he lived in a small on a small farm in the Hinkley slash Pine City area. That's where he's from in Minnesota here. We know all of his, he's the second youngest child. So younger end of a big family on a farm. Sounds idyllic, right? Sure does.

Sounds like he's going to turn out just fine. Well, he left home when he was a teenager. Apparently he didn't like farm life. Farm living's not for everybody it's not he he has some problems here now his father insists he's not an outcast though that's not what he is he just has some problems they said he's always in touch with the family he didn't like you know run away from the family and never want to see them again he's just wanted to do his own thing as a teenager and uh his father's mother said, he had a drug problem,

but he's cleared that all up now as of Halloween season 1989. He had a drug problem. Now he doesn't. He's 22. He's ready to start his life over. His mother said he's even been helping several friends of his kick their drug habits as well. He's trying to take everybody out of the life. He should be everybody's sponsor in town.

She said he's made a complete turnaround. He's just, couldn't be happier with him. He's doing wonderful. Yeah, he's been drug free from what they said and he's been helping others. He had some minor run-ins with the law, of course. Obviously, he had some issues.

His parents say he's planning to get married at this point even he's got now some chick he found they don't know oh he's got the girl they're not that close to him he wasn't just planning on i'm gonna get married someday to who that's a question to be answered at a later date but i will be married damn it i'm going to get married one day to who this tree i love it so much i have a dog that's been very close to me for many years. I feel like maybe we can get married. I'm on the tracks and I owe him.

I owe him. So complete turnaround. He's doing great. He moves from that area to Rochester, which is close by the Yoda here. He worked various jobs in Alexandria,andria minnesota for a couple years and then moved to rochester he was when he gets to rochester he's around for a couple weeks in october of 1989 and then he lands a job as a trainee cook at the ground round baby oh yeah boy ground round i don't know how to describe it is it. It's like sizzler kind of, I guess you could call it.

Sure. Like just a not fast food. It's sit down, but it's not like great food. It's like the Olive Garden of steaks, I guess would be the best way to describe it. It's probably like the Western sizzling of sizzler. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's not good.

It's a step down. But listen, sometimes you got to treat the kid when the kid does great around the house and you take him out to the ground. He's going to learn how to cook some low quality sirloins here. Let's get it on. So he gets a job there on October 24th. Okay. And he's works like four days.

He's getting in with people here as we'll find out. One of his friends works there too. He's got had arrests in the past for criminal theft, property damage. Yeah. That sort of thing. Minor stuff, nothing crazy,

just kind of teenage fuck up things. At this time too, there's also a warrant out for his arrest. Oh no. Because he missed a court appearance in his arrest. Oh, no. Because he missed a court appearance in Pine County on October 12th. Do we know what that was about? It's one of those charges from before.

It was probably a year-old charge of criminal mischief or some bullshit like that. Didn't know. In Alexandria, he met some friends. And he became part of this group that they call the family. Okay? Oh, boy. They have a family yeah you know there's going to be a family on the halloween edition of small town murder the family is only

good when you have like a nickname and you're and you're you're in new york city or boston or and everybody's like or you're like a or you're like a musician or something otherwise you know is that is there is there a good family of that i mean you could say like if you're in like a rap group or something you were the family and where all these people you could do that sort of thing i suppose you know you could but not you can't just say we're a family unless you want to be really creepy and uh random dudes that have day jobs should never have the family well and this family ranges in age and persuade. It's just a very odd family. We'll put it that way here. Now, he's also this is the other thing. He arrives in Rochester, doesn't really have any money, but he arrives with friends where he gets an apartment with them and stuff. And he's described around town as kind of a drifter. It's like if you came with friends and have a place to live, you're not a drifter. You're just a new person who's trying to establish a life like is that how this town is who's that must be a drifter very few drifters have home addresses that's what i mean and roommates that's the other thing it's a lone

profession drifting you know you don't see a pair of drifters because that's not drifters now now they're two dudes they're not drifters anymore one guy's a drifter just ruins the whole thing so in in uh alexandria he met a few people here he meets um and these people are in rochester with him later they all move when people young people kind of move together in a group that's a family type of situation which is very weird is that what they're doing yeah they moved in a group together to Rochester, which is strange. This is Michelle Marie Toche, I don't know, T-O-C-H-E is her last name. Michelle Marie sounds like she's very Italian, though. That sounds huge.

She's 25 years old here, and her boyfriend, oh, by the way, she has three kids also. That are going with him? She has three, yeah, she has three kids also. That are going with him? She has three, yeah, she has three kids. Holy. Michelle, I don't know. Once you have three kids, you have a family. You don't need to be a part of a bunch of jerk-offs and their weird drifting,

and we'll talk about what they're into and shit. You can't do this weird traveling around, and these kids need stability, Ma. No, no, but there's a warlock involved and a high priest and a whole deal. So it's a thing here. So her boyfriend is a guy named David Lyle Duncan. And he's 30 years old. And he works part time at the ground round with Lang.

They got a job there together. And Lang also lives in the same house with them as well. And the kids? Yeah, he's their roommate, I suppose. So that's how that's going on. So that's one household there. And then you have a few other people in the group. So that's a couple 30 and 25 are their ages.

Then you have Lyle Robert McIntyre. Lyle McIntyre. He's 19. He's also part of this so there's a 30 year old and a 19 year old in this group right away which makes the whole thing a little weird how old is Wayne 22 he's okay 22 so he's in the middle there then there's Jennifer Lee Keller

and she's 19 years old as well okay and then there's Cynthia Ann Blomgren Cindy Blomgren she's 19 also old as well. And then there's Cynthia and Blomgren, Cindy Blomgren. She's 19 also. So there's three 19 year olds. And Cindy's boyfriend is Daniel Edward Naylor, who's 24 years old. So that's the family here. All right.

You got Wayne. You got Michelle and David, a couple. Lyle, Jennifer, Cindy and Daniel. And Cindy and Daniel are a couple, Lyle, Jennifer, Cindy, and Daniel. And Cindy and Daniel are a couple. Ranging from 19 to 30. 19 to 30, a weird menagerie of people that have somehow come together to make the ground round the place to be in Rochester, Minnesota. They are going to take the ground round to the next level. Well, they need to share the shifts.

That's all it is. They're just sharing shifts. So all of these people here, they all kind of they are always hanging out. They have obviously they're the family. It's a close knit group here. And there's all of their relationships over time. There's kind of shifting relationships with these people are friends. Now these two hang out more.

Now they're in a relationship romantically. Then they're not. Then these ones are. Anytime you have a group of people like that that's split with the genders and everything, you're going to get people hooking up and then breaking up and hooking up. And this is their social circle, though, so they don't really go outside of it. So they just kind of trade back and forth with each other, it seems like. So far, there's just Wayne and that other girl that are just by themselves, right? That don't have boyfriends or that don't have a couple of them?

And then Lyle, too, I think. But I think they're saying that Lyle and Jennifer were together for a minute, then they weren't. So it's one of those things. Wayne seems to be the odd man out as far as girlfriends go. Either way, that's how they're that's how they're living basically here um they lived there's a they all of them live in like three different places a couple roommates here a couple roommates here and then we told you the three that michelle david and wayne all live together in a house they live in a house um owned by sandra molliter is her name and uh now they work

they were working in Alexander. They moved to Rochester. They asked Lang to move with them. They were like, yeah, come with us also. You know, you're part of the family. Let's do this shit. Including, I mean, and they're all tight. Like, they all went to visit Wayne's family in Pine City and spend a day on the farm.

And Michelle brought her kids with her as well. You know, brought the three kids out there to have a nice day on the farm. It's fucking 11 people. 10 people? 11? It's a lot. There's a lot of people going on here. Yeah, it's all sorts of people going on.

It's like a weird, strange, weird little Minnesota. A polite Manson family. You know what I mean? Very polite. Starving for a leader. Unless they just follow the 30 year old guy because the old one nailer's the leader nailer is 100 the leader of this 19 years old no 24 nailer is oh 24 24 he's going out with a 19 year old but he's for sure the leader of this

group there's not even a no question of that whatsoever here so yeah that's i mean they're even they know each other's families and all that sort of thing um lang is regarded as kind of the group the group fuck up there he's the guy that they're all gonna kind of uh i don't know if everybody picks on him they don't really pick on him but he's kind of the he doesn't have the standing of the others i don't know why that is i don't know if he's not in a relationship with anybody he's kind of the odd man out um they said that he at a certain point here in in uh october after the move and everything in this last week he's kind of been interfering in the relationships of everybody else who's trying to get two of them to break up and he was he's kind of just he's been a nudge like you were saying here yeah um and uh also they thought he was stealing from one of them.

One of them thought he might have been stealing from them. And Duncan and Naylor, they suspected that he might be a police informant. Oh, yeah. What drugs are they doing? No, no, they're not doing many drugs. It's not a matter of drugs. There's no drugs? Well, they're just going to tell about whatever.

They're doing some drugs, but they don't have, like like a drug ring or anything they're not selling anything they're just no party they're not drug addicts they just use them recreation yeah yeah that's all yeah they're off time from the ground round you know how it works so what is it that he's worried about being informed on i i don't know but they're a little bit into satan you know that much not we'll call it a lot a bit into satan they like satan stuff a little bit here um but they're not shy about it that's not something that they're you know hiding or anything like that nailer spoke actually to a community education class in 1988 um and about satanism he'd had a big presentation about satanism that a teacher brought him in to make

and uh he told the class he was a high priest in a satanic group at that point which is this little family is what he's talking about 11 people 11 people and three of them are small children that don't even know what they're talking about but still high pre well you got to start somewhere that's the thing these people you know what it is now people want instant gratification they're going to go out there they want to start a cult or a satanic family or something. They think they're going to start out with 50 people underneath them. No.

You start out with five, six, and you build. You build. What the fuck? You've got to have patience. Grassroots. Yeah, Rome wasn't built in a day. You know what I mean? What are you supposed to do?

You think you open a restaurant and it's just full all the time? You've got to promote it. You've got to get good buzz going around. People have got to go, now that satanic family, that's's how you party right there those are the people i'm a part of telling you right now those people are going right to a sweet spot in the ground right in there you know you know that's happening so either way uh there's all sorts of evidence here uh of all of this you know satanic kind of stuff they have all sorts of just like books and shit like that nailer and lang both describe themselves as warlocks as well so you

know there's a lot of that sort of stuff now up to halloween week leading up to the halloween here after after the ground the big ground round hiring and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Um, the three women that we're talking about here, uh, Michelle, Cindy and Jennifer, they all decide to, um, they're discussing,

Naylor's discussing with the women performing a Halloween prank on, on Lang, right? Cause Saturday night's a big Halloween party. They're all going to go to. And then afterwards they want to pull a big prank on Lang, a big Halloween prank, where they're going to call it the warlock test, which automatically makes me think of Rulo Nebraska's arm test,

which is the warlock test, which I don't know what that is. Well, we'll do this. If my dick moves that way, it means that you're an idiot, and if it moves that way, it's one of those things. So it's a mock ceremony where they would remove lang's clothes and then just leave him outdoors all night to embarrass him of course naked yeah naked and then why wouldn't that be part of this and then they're all gonna run away like they're gonna have a big ceremony with candles and all this shit and get him all naked and get him standing there and in some sort of trance and then they're gonna fucking run away and be like ha ha and then he's gonna have to find his way naked back home that's the

whole rope and a very cold bottle of or drug of barrel probably of water falls on a naked man it's a very fast times at ridgemont high kind of a prank you know what i mean it's some guy covering his balls it's a it's a dumb prank so they going to do all of this shit. The women even went out and they bought costumes. They got all these candles. They bought fake blood, all this stuff. And they were going to do this fake witchcraft ritual to fool him and scare him because they're going to basically be like, you're not a warlock. You think you're a warlock? Obviously, he's a warlock. That guy's a warlock. But you you think you're a warlock? Obviously, he's a warlock.

That guy's a warlock. But you? Come on, man. Wayne, please. Who are you fooling, buddy? So, Saturday, October the 28th, 1989 comes around. Obviously, Halloween is, what, Tuesday? Tuesday.

So, this Saturday is when all the parties are going to be happening, obviously. This is the time for Halloween parties. On that day, one of the group, we don't know who, we never find out exactly who did this. Somebody bought, I don't know if they all chipped in to buy the high priest a gift. You know how they buy like a priest a gift because he's been doing a lot for the parish and he doesn't make any money? They're like, here you go. We bought you this flask or whatever. I assume they're drunk. I don't know a nice bottle of wine they bought him a dagger

um it's a boot knife if you know what those are those are the ones that have they have the the flat part on the bottom there's like a t on the bottom it's basically a t and you hold it kind of between your hands and and that's how it works there. It's one of those. Boot knife. Watch an old West movie. Everybody yanks one out. So they gave him the knife as like a big gift that day.

Here you go, high priest dipshit. Here's a knife for you. So you can make a fist, and it comes through your knuckles. Yeah, exactly. Pretty cool. So he gets the knife, nailer. He shows it to Cindy Blomgren and describes it as his new toy. He's like, check out my new toy.

And he's like, you know, swiping all around the air with it and probably doing some weird shit. Look at me. I'm Bruce Lee. And he's like, this is what I would do in a dangerous situation. I'm fucking badass. No, I feel like he's probably not a badass. Yeah. You're not going to run away.

Probably be like, I'm a a badass. Yeah, you're going to run away probably. Be like, I'm a high priest, and then run away. I said I was a high priest. Be nice. They're all going to come for you. So they end up going to a party that night. This is Michelle, David. You got McIntyre there, Cindy Blomgren,

you got Jennifer Keller, and also you have Wayne Lang and then David Naylor here. Are we leaving the kids alone or is somebody staying behind to watch them? Does it matter? With everything else that these kids have probably been around,

does it really matter if they're with anybody or not? She's 25, so I assume her oldest kid can be what at the oldest nine probably yeah i mean so maybe 10 that's if shit really went awry so either way it was like real questionable 11 if someone's in jail because of it. So either way, they're all there. I assume someone's watching the kids. It's Halloween party night. She's got to go out. So they're going to party.

And during this party, they're all hanging out and everything. Nailer takes Lang's beer, gets Lang a beer, and he spikes it with sleeping pills. Yeah, he pulls a dommer on him, basically. Does all that, spikes it. It's amitriptyline. That's the sleeping pill there. And actually, Wayne goes unconscious, passes out for a while there. Really?

Yeah, and then Naylor jumps on top of him, strangles him, rapes his corpse, and then eats his penis. No, he doesn't. That what jeffrey dahmer would do your eyes you were like oh my god this story just took a really dark turn in front of everybody wow at the party did he go like hey everybody look at this first and he stood up on a coffee table or something hey y'all watch it he got on the peak of the roof and said i'm a golden god and then did it like is that what happened then jumped in the pool so either way he's unconscious he's doing his shit there and um at the at the party too this so this is nailer's night okay this is the type of guy he is he knocks his friend out with sleeping but spikes his friend's drink which is super fucked

up then there's some other people there that he doesn't know i guess there's a bunch of people from the ground round it's like an employee ground round hangout and a bunch of their friends and then there's some party crashers that come and uh nailer doesn't know them so he gets in a little altercation with a couple of them it happens where before any fists can be thrown he pulls out his dagger and starts threatening people with it and swinging it around okay so that's that's his first instinct is i got this new toy i'm gonna show it yeah usually when you when you have a weapon it's used for self-defense and not instigating that's well that's ideally yeah

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Yeah, who doesn't like that? So they stop at a soybean field. It's a farm that grows soybeans near, it's Iota here. So during this, when they stop the car, they're hanging out. Naylor begins arguing with Lang, with Wayne, and then starts punching him intermittently, just out of nowhere. So Lang is still not all the way with it because he's been drugged. So he's still kind of half-ass out of it basically. He can stand and he can move around, but if you told him, you know, gave him a math equation, he'd go, uh, you know, he's not.

And throw a punch at him, you're going to hit him. You're going to hit him. He's not going to be able to move. His is going to be a little slower coming at you. It's going one of those so it's gonna have a lot of bruises it's gonna have a lot of bruises so they do all of this after the while this is going on there's a little bit of scuffling then nailer just starts dragging lang away from the car and off into a dark field just drags him off into there once they get out into the dark field, now we don't know exactly if any of them, Duncan will end up here in a second, but we don't know if he was right next to Lang when this is going on here.

So either we do know that Naylor and Lang are out in the field and Naylor is the one in physical control here. So I don't understand how the fight – there's not a real fight. It's just Naylor beating up on Lang. And then out of nowhere, Naylor pulls out his boot knife, pulls out his dagger, and slashes Lang's throat. Whoa. Slashes his throat. Slashed it again and then again. Three times he slashes his throat. Slashed it again and then again. Three times he slashes his throat.

Okay? Okay. So slashes his throat and obviously Lang goes to the ground. His throat is cut from ear to ear. So it's wide open. He's like a Colombian drug dealer that went awry and he's been taught a lesson. Yeah. It's not good.

So he falls to the ground, obviously dying here. Um, but nailer doesn't stop attacking him. He keeps on stabbing and that's, that's the least of it. Those we'll talk about here in the end. Lang is, his face is beaten.

He's been punched and kicked in the face, slashed across the neck at least three times. The, it'll say later on, they can't tell because some of the wounds look like they might be more in there. He was also stabbed in the chest, cutting one of his pulmonary arteries when he hit the ground. Then they say that it's a double-edged dagger about an inch from edge to edge, so an inch wide, and at least five

inches in length so you can that's a big fucking knife that's a big fucking knife and he's stabbing him in the wow yeah but then that's not enough though it's not enough for lang because that's not enough for uh nailer to do to lang because you know he's finally got a body here in front of him and he's got to do some some cool shit to it obviously because he's going to show what a high priest he is of the yeah i'm a warlock hey you know how it goes look at me hey so as this goes there he jesus christ his lang's abdomen was as they say scored which if you know if you've ever made tomato sauce from scratch you know you score the bottom of the tomatoes which means you cut a little x in the bottom of the skin and then you boil them for a while and then you just peel the skin right off. It pops right off after they're a little softer.

Well, he did this on his midsection. He did a big cut, a big X in his midsection. Just a big giant X across it all carved out. He even had to turn the body as well to do other things to it. He was playing with him for a while.

The X was incised shallowly in Lang's neck and the dagger shoved through the center of the X into a vertebrae. Oh my god. That's what he did. He made a whole thing. He made an X and then he pushed the knife through the center of the X into a vertebrae. So that's what he did. Yeah. He made like a whole thing. He made an X and then he pushed the knife through the middle of it.

Like X marks the spot. Yeah. That's what he did, man. Like right into his back, into his spine. He did it both ways. He did it in the front and the back.

He did it in the front and got his heart and then the pulmonary artery. And then he did it on the back and had a vertebrae. What is that about? He's just, this is whatever the ritual that he's trying to, whatever he's trying to express through this is, I don't know. But I think he's trying to show off to the others. To me, this reeks of like, I did this, so while I did it, I might as well make it like a calling card of mine and make it cool if I'm going to do it.

Like Manson, make it witchy. Yeah, that's exactly right. Make, put some shit on the walls. If you're going to fucking do it, misspell some words and blood, please.

So there, uh, obviously this is a fucking, a disaster. Um, later on, it'll also show just that Lang did have the sleeping pills in his blood and a large amount of alcohol as well.

So his sobriety is going excellent, clearly. So now once he's dead, nailer goes and asked Duncan for help in getting his Lang's clothes off. Help me get his clothes off of him. Why he wanted to get his clothes off of him. I have no fucking idea, but the others end up kind of going back to the car.

Um, no fucking idea but the others end up kind of going back to the car um and he tells them after they take his lang's clothes off that if asked they should describe the evening's events accurately up until the time of you know that we left the party so you know we went to the party there were some people there you know blah blah blah that's all fine once we left the party though tell them that lang was dropped off at the house that he shares with duncan there and michelle and um after the party and no one saw him after that just that's our story and if anybody doesn't say that you're in deep shit with me you've seen what i do you've seen what i do i'll cut an x on your goddamn chest so on the way back to rochester nailer shows the others uh his bloody arms under the

dome light he turns the dome light of the car on has blood all over his hands and he says all i'm sure cheesily as shit he says this is death oh good lord that's what he's doing yeah this is death we're aware we get it bro you. You fucking jackass. And then he said again, just to let you know also, I'll absolutely kill anyone who tells on me. Oh, really? So Naylor stays with McIntyre.

They stay together. So McIntyre and he are a Lyle McIntyre, our little team right now. And later on, Naylor is telling him all about it too he said that he what he did to lang was he quote chopped him up like a piece of raw meat that's what he's that's his brags here um they said that was when they were driving back they said that they also went to a place called the farm at about 4 30 a.m this is nailer and mcintyre um 4 30 a.m looking for a friend of Naylor's.

Because, you know, 4.30 is when you want your friends to stop by. This is a woman who lives at the farm named Laura Dornack. She answered the door, talked to Naylor. Naylor, who doesn't, like, try to act casual, establish an alibi, he tells her, I just came from killing this dude. Which, there's already, what, six other people, five other people that know about it. Now you're going to tell somebody else.

This is not. One more. What's one more? Not laying good groundwork to get away with a murder. We'll put it that way. There's going to be more. No one is ever going to get in trouble and need to get out of it, or no one's ever going to have a hint of conscience or anything like that.

It's never going to happen. You tell me this. If I get pulled over for speeding, I'm spilling it if it's getting out of this ticket yeah on this idiot fuck that you get a parking ticket hey don't tow my car i know of a murder give a shit just drop it i'll give you everything come on so he tells her i killed lang you know that guy lang i killed him then he tell this is So he tells her, I killed Lang. You know that guy Lang? I killed him. Then he tells her, this is weird. He asked her to smell the blood on his hands. Ew. Smell the blood on my hands.

This is trying to be all creepy. He showed, smell my finger. Pull it and then smell it, god damn it. Fingers for pulling and smelling. That's what they're for never mind articulation and fucking being able to eat food writing and now that's it pulling smelling and fingering obviously that's what it's for so uh he tells her that um he shows her the bloody clothes that they took from Lang's body. And he mentions all the other people that were there.

Got to incriminate them as well, obviously. Yeah, get them on scene. Yeah. You know, he said that they planned to drug Lang and then kill him and that he killed Lang by slashing his throat, stabbed him in the chest. He told him all I did, all this stuff. At that point, his friend, dear Dornak, notices blood on the left knee of his pants because there would be blood after doing all that. Probably. Yeah. So Naylor and McIntyre then drive to a bridge over the Zumbro River where they throw Naylor's shoes and laying shoes into the water.

And then later they went to McIntyre's house where they noticed blood on more fucking of his clothes. So they had to go dump more shit over there. So the body is found the early the next morning because it's just in these people's soybean field. Yeah. All right. 10 a.m. on a Sunday morning. Some poor bastard finds this carved up person in their yard here. They call the coroner and everything.

They start a death investigation. It's about 60 feet from a gravel road, 10 miles east of Rochester. No attempt to conceal the body. It's definitely there to be found. It's absolutely splayed out. Shirt open so you can see the X. Underwear. That's it.

There's underwear on them. They didn't want to. That was one of those were like, we don't want to look gay. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, we're like Satanists and murderers. But like, bro, I don't want people to think I'm like gay and stuff like chicks will dig me if I'm in prison for this. I want them to think like, oh, no, he likes fucking. He's a cock smoker, man.

I don't think he'll want to be in on this, dude. You know what I'm saying, bro? Yeah, man. Then they high fived and fucking put their hands in their pockets of their acid wash jeans. Fucking jackasses. So the coroner said that he bled to death, Lang, after extensive slash wounds of the neck and stab wounds of the heart. That'll do it. Good lord.

That'll do it. And they noted everything else. They said it clearly happened sometime in the night, probably early Sunday morning, saying that the wounds were relatively fresh when the deputies arrived on the scene. And it's late October in Minnesota means it's chilly at night also. So that'll help preserve it a little better. It definitely was refrigerated overnight. So that helps. Early reports of the discovery call him an unidentified body, saying only as a white male dressed in undershorts.

And by the evening, no one had come forward to identify the body. They put that out there and they're like, nobody knows this young person. Like, that's crazy. So then they start releasing a little bit more information, as little as they can. They release distinctive tattoos that he has. That'll get some people talking. Yeah. And they said, you know, that's when they discovered that he has. That'll get some people talking. Yeah. And they said, you know, that's when they discovered who he was.

But the cops said at this point we have no suspects. We haven't zeroed in on anything. They said there's an they don't know if maybe he was killed here or maybe there's an outside chance he may have been killed and then brought here. You think by the amount of blood there they'd realize he was killed at the scene. Yeah. His heart was stabbed and his throat was cut. That's a shitload of blood. He'd realize he was killed at the scene yeah his heart was stabbed and his throat was cut that's a shitload of blood he's 60 feet off the road is there any blood in between the road and this body any of that if there's a shitload here and there's none in

between he wasn't carried he probably wasn't carried exactly so there's rumors obviously once they find out who it is first of all they, they talked to Pat Daly, who's the manager of the ground round. Got to talk to him first. Let's get the ground round manager in here. He said that he talked to some employees because he had heard about this whole thing. And employees said that they were a Lang was at the party and he was last seen about 2 a.m. One of his cooks told him that someone had slipped a sleeping pill or something and it was beer during the party. So he told the cops of these rumors. He also said several people craft crock crashed the party,

gotten into a scuffle over a woman and that one of the kids brandished and one of the guys brandished a knife and, uh, the, uh, his friends took it away from him and all that shit. So that's what he knows about it. Once they hear about it a little bit, they hear that it's been found. Naylor goes to the law enforcement center to identify Lang. He goes to, he's like, I'll go there. I'm going to identify him because I heard it was him. They need someone to identify him. So Naylor, McIntyre goes and Duncan, they all go down to identify him separately. They all make separate statements that, yeah, Lang had been with me at the party, but, you know, that was it.

We dropped him off at the house. The concocted story. Then, October 30th, the next morning, an anonymous caller calls the police. Who do you think it is? Well, they would have to be one of only two people if it's not Naylor, because the caller tells police

about Naylor's visit to Laura Dornack the previous day. So a 4.30 in the morning visit to your friend where there's only you, your friend, and another friend there. You know who made that call, probably. It's not a big circle here. So then police went to talk to Dornack, and she gave everything up because she has nothing to do with any of this shit. It was 4.30 in the morning, and she probably was less than happy to have them. She's probably terrified. If someone shows up at your door at 4.30 calling yourself the high priest of the family,

he's got fucking blood up to his elbows with his boot dagger out and blood all over him going, I just carved a guy up like raw meat. You're like, sure, how can I help you, pal? No problem. Smell my finger at 4.30. Yeah, you to spare pull it and smell it pull it and smell it lady so i mean i would help him too probably what do you what you need pal at that point we're all buddies so they arrest everybody they arrest all of them all six all six of these idiots they arrest here obviously which makes sense doorknack doesn't get arrested though so um which is understandable

they all indicate lang was drugged at the party they all kind of give the same story then uh they also talk about how they disposed of lang's clothing his own clothing lyle gives that up uh they talk about some items of physical evidence they talk about the warlock test that they planned on lang um oh we were just gonna leave him naked that's not much of a test how do you pass it well if you pass it that means if you survive and you're you know your dick doesn't get gnawed off by a fucking groundhog or something that means that you're really a warlock apparently that's how it works so the worms out and no birds pecked it so you're a winner uh physical evidence

also pants were taken from nailer that had traces of human blood that couldn't be matched to a particularly person a particular person they found nailer's dagger which matched the size and shape of the wounds on lang's body it was seized from Blomgren's grandparents' house, which is funny there. They found a shoe identified as Naylor's in the Zumbro River, along with both of Lang's shoes. And they did search warrants of all the homes and cars of everybody here. And they seized several books on witchcraft after hearing of the witchcraft angle in this whole thing and uh they the other kids keep saying that they are kids people keep saying that they were that we thought we were taken laying out to a farm to be assaulted to teach him a lesson we didn't think

he was going to kill him but a lesson for what yeah that's what i'm saying because he was interfering in our relationships yeah so they said they said they agreed with Naylor about the alibi, but they didn't send anyone to find Lang because they were afraid of Naylor. So they were like, that's why we didn't tell he was there. During this whole thing, they described themselves as a family of all this shit. That's self-described. They're all going to be charged with murder at first here. Is that right? Yeah, several of them talk about the witchcraft angle of the whole thing,

but they all say that witchcraft played no role in the slaying. It's like, well, at least you faked a lot that had to do with it. You sure pretended to be into whatever the fuck, you know, not witchcraft, but I mean with some whatever shit you were doing. I don't think an x and a stab in the middle that looks pretty quote ritualistic like an attempt to make something look ritualistic when you don't know what you're actually doing you know what i mean accidental or self-defensive stab wounds oftentimes do not have any rhyme or reason no this is like especially a big x with a stab in the middle that's you got no you got nothing to stand on this is some fake dark shit this is like

the urban outfitters of fucking the dark underworld you know what i mean nobody's ever heard draw two x's front and back and stab it in the middle nobody's ever heard that this is hot topic satan this is what that's what this is hot topic satanism is what this is it's just all about before christmas satanism and books and stuff that's all so they all they all kind of give up what's going on here they said that they knew nailer had a knife and they said that nailer struggled with lang for several minutes doing something to him that they couldn't see in the field duncan denies any part in the stabbing but said he did. He and others didn't stop Naller, nor did they alert authorities.

Michelle Toche, she said that she just froze when she saw what Naller did, which would be a normal reaction to seeing that. So Duncan also says, quote, it was my feeling that Naller believed Wayne Lang was a narc. And that was possibly, you know, the reason for all this type of thing here. So and they said that they had been upset with Lang for meddling, quote, in the relationship between Cindy Blomgren and Naylor and for making sexual advances toward Keller as well. So who was McIntyre's girlfriend? They were hooked up to.

So, you know, Jesus Christ. They also suspected him of stealing a ring from Michelle. So obviously we're going to do a warlock test on him. Jesus fuck. So they said, did you believe that Naylor was like a warlock, a quote warlock high priest of black magic? That was the question they actually asked her. And she said, quote, I didn't believe him.

She said, that was her quote. She said she read parts of several books on the occult and didn't think that he was all, you know, didn't think he had it going on here. So that's wild. Wayne Lang's family said it was such a great shock to us that they were involved after we'd gotten to know all these people. These were all close. They were all close. They didn't know about

any of it. No, they were just a close-knit social group. They were like, oh, it's so nice that our son has friends. They seem like a nice group of friends there. That's good. That's wild. So the others here, they're saying they might seek one trial for all six of these people or maybe do separate trials. They're trying to decide seek one trial for all six of these people or maybe do

separate trials they're trying to decide what to do um after all this they let out um michelle cindy jennifer and mcintyre uh out on home detention on bail house arrest then they revoke it and set bail at 250 000 for each of them is a different story, and none of them make bail. The sheriff said it's very difficult to sort out the facts and know what has happened. Not really. It's pretty simple. I mean, if you're a cop and you really need to know why,

then yeah, it's probably going to be difficult. If you can just know what, knowing what happened, it's simple. That's easy peasy. If you talk to homicide detectives, too, they go, I don't give a fuck about the why. The why is not my problem. Not an issue. Who, where, when, and with what.

That's it. That's what I need to know. That's proof. The why is fine for your own personal, just for fun. But it doesn't mean anything legally. The why doesn't mean a dick. Sometimes the why won't give you closure. It'll just make it fucking worse.

It makes it more irritating. Yeah. So Duncan, Michelle, David Duncan, Michelle Toch, Jennifer Keller, Cynthia Blomgren are all, they all plead guilty to, what is it? Like it's after the, it's a first degree manslaughter is what they do here. So, because they're all involved with it. They are sentenced to – here we go. Okay. It's you, children and adults and men and women and everybody.

People have a lot going forward. With may fuck off, 86 months on the kidnapping charge and 110 months on first degree manslaughter charge with the sentences to run concurrently so each one 110 months they all get that they all get 110 months which is each yeah that's 10 11 years yeah that's that's a decent amount of time um so they're being given credit for time served obviously during trial all of all of them could be eligible for parole in about six years okay on this now they also order that they pay one thousand seven hundred ninety nine dollars to olmstead county for the cost of the cemetery plot and funeral for lang as well wow so there's that now they all pleaded guilty and obviously they are all going to fucking testify that's part of the deal they all testify mcintyre says he couldn't remember much of what happened that night he just couldn't

remember so they were like the da while they're questioning him in court is reading him his statements remember that and he's like it's all very fuzzy so foggy so fucking fuzzy man it was halloween he made the statements and it was just fuzzy. He said he saw Naylor grab Lang by the hair and then pulled something out of the middle of his back, which is where Naylor had the dagger clipped to his jeans. He had it like in his belt there. So McIntyre says, as far as he knows, he's telling the truth. He says, but, quote, I've forgotten a lot of stuff. How would you forget something like that?

Yeah. And it's like, it's like four months later to this trial. Isn't three years later. It's like four months ago. It's how many murders have you seen kid? The craziest thing that you've ever been involved with in your whole life. And it's not like you blacked out at the time and just don't remember anything that happened. You knew what happened two days later, but now three months later, you're a little fuzzy and shaky on it what i've done a lot since then put it that way i've had a lot happening with my life you know lots of shifts at the uh ground

round you know the ground round really takes it out of you it grounds you to a round it really does grinds you down he said that he didn't even think. He said, quote, I just reacted. He said he didn't intervene in the fight because that was between Dan and Wayne. Hey, he said, what could I do? Should I have gone out and got beaten up too? That's what he said. He didn't get beaten up, man. None of my problems. He got murked.

If you wrap your arms around a guy, I don't know, fucking anything. That's why. He had to plead guilty, by the way, to second degree murder. He was the one who was an outlier. He got 124 months. We got an extra two years and everybody else.

So Michelle, the one with the kids here, she testifies about what happened in the car on the way out from the murder after the murder. And they said, who turned on the dome light? She said, Dan did.

They said, what did he do? She said, he held his hands up and he said, do you know what this is? Pointing at the blood. And nobody said anything because it's obvious, I'm thinking. Because we knew. Yeah, you're covered in blood, dipshit. We thought it was rhetorical.

Yeah, it's like taking your rock hard cock out and going, you know what this is? Got a pretty good idea, chief, yeah. Think it do. As a matter of fact. Do you need the answer? hard cock out and going you know what this is got a pretty good idea chief yeah they could do as a matter of fact do you need the answer is that pretty good fucking idea what you got happening so she said nobody said anything and then he goes this is death and then he made the comment that he didn't think he could do it that way like i didn't think i could do it that easy

but fucking i carved him right up so he said what else did he say and she said and he said this was the second time he had done it and he told several people afterwards that this is the second murder he's been a part of um now they tried to get this excluded as hearsay. Automatically, the defense was like, whoa, hey, no, no, no. But the statement was offered for its effect on her, not as – so that's some smart lawyering there. They snuck it in there. No, no, no, Your Honor. This is about how that statement affected her and her actions going forward, not to lay a groundwork to say that this guy's obviously a scumbag who may or may not have murdered more people and put that in the jury's mind not what

we're doing at all that was a a lawyer iverson level crossover wow that is that's impressive that is impressive agility right there holy shit so uh yeah they she said that she made false statements to the police until nailer got arrested and she was sure that he couldn't harm her. Then she came clean. Satanism takes the big role here. They object. Naylor's attorneys object to three types of evidence that talks about his involvement in witchcraft, witchcraft slash Satanism slash whatever they're saying it is. So there's testimony by various witnesses about his interest in witchcraft and Satanism slash whatever they're saying it is. So there's testimony by various witnesses about his interest in witchcraft and Satanism.

They have photographs of the covers of books about witchcraft seized from all of them and the books themselves there. They're all questioned about that over continuing objections and everything like that. Naylor discussed his interest in witchcraft with Jennifer Keller and told her that he was a warlock he described himself as a warlock to cynthia blomgren to david duncan to everybody that would fucking listen to him everyone at the ground every customer at the ground round yeah i'll have the 10 ounce sirloin and you're a warlock that's very nice david david the warlocker daniel the Warlock was on his name tag so they testified that he described himself as a warlock

a satanic high priest and all this type of shit always with the objecting on that sort of thing but the court admitted all this saying that the witchcraft and satanism involvement didn't abuse the discretion and it was actually relevant in this case.

So the book that they mainly talk about here, they take photographs of everything, like we said. The photographs only show the cover of the books, and they don't really have a lot of prejudicial effect from their cover art, they're saying. There's not a big deal. But there is one book that is a big deal, And we'll talk about that in a second because it takes big precedent in the deliberations. In closing, the state comment says this. This is the state's closing. Just look at those elements and you can resolve this. You're not going to resolve every single issue that's hanging in this case. In fact, some of the witnesses said, I'm telling the truth and the defendant knows the truth.

We're never going to know exactly what happened out there, but you certainly have enough evidence before you to find the defendant guilty of first-degree murder, having premeditated with the intent to kill Wayne Lang on the 29th of October. And I ask you to come back with a verdict of guilty in this case. Thank you. Did you see anything legally untoward about that uh no okay well that uh later on he will say that is the that is the prosecutor's uh talking shit about him to the jury that he didn't testify oh yeah saying that um in fact some of the witnesses said i'm telling the truth and the defendant knows the truth so they're saying that he's saying that he said that to say that he should have testified, which is not – that's a really big stretch.

No way. He knows the truth, and he refused to tell you. Yeah, if he said that, that would be different. You're not allowed to say that. So over the deliberation, the jury asked for the books that were taken to take into the deliberation room with them. They wanted to look them over while they deliberated and see if they can get a nice family going on, get a coven happening. There's 12 of us and we kind of like each other. That tells you that they were very, very much intrigued by the satanic aspect of it and that is what had a lot of their deal here.

There's 12 books altogether. 11 they have no problem with. The 12th book, though, is the one they have a huge problem with. It is States Exhibit 85, and it's called Satanism, Is Your Family Safe? Which I tried to get it in time by now. It's not available in an e-book or anything like that.

I ordered an old copy of it and it's coming you can still get this book it's on amazon you can get an unbound copy for 10.99 that's a handful of papers a handful they show up in a ziploc bag the ups guy just throws them at you and hope you hope it's not windy out when it happens they're not in order or you can get the audio book of it which i was like awesome but the audio books only the audio book is only available in cassette version so i'm like for real he's read it it's 7.99 on uh on amazon i bought a used version that has got the cover and everything. Is your family safe? Satanism.

By the way, the, the seller I bought it from, I I'll find it in a minute. It's fucking hilarious what it is. It's written by Dwayne Schwartz and Ted Empey. And it's got a guy on the front in a, I'll put,

I'll post it on social media. It's got a guy on the front and like a cloak and he's got a, his hands like in front of his forehead with a knife coming down. And it's that exact dagger that Naylor has. What? It's pretty much the exact same dagger. So they're saying that that book is a big deal because of that, of the cover. They said the book has a striking cover photographed of a man in a priestly robe holding a dagger, a dagger which is similar to that owned by Naylor and thought to have been used in the killing.

As its title suggests, the book takes an anti-witchcraft, anti-Satanism position in reporting various allegations about witchcraft and Satanism in the United States. suggests that the crimes committed by witches sometimes remain unsolved because prosecutors are reluctant to charge crimes that include possibly possibly unbelievable details of witchcraft involvement which is horseshit that they see that and they're like immediate conviction i get 12 people from the suburbs i sit them down i tell them there's satanists out there and they scare the shit out of them and they'll they'll convict them no matter what we've seen it a hundred times west memphis three for christ's sake i mean it's the whole the whole thing so either way though they say that it's uh it's it's it's a little much the book includes a specific charge to jurors in the book this is said and it's not the prosecutors

doesn't say it but this is written in the book it the book. It's like a note to future jurors, literally. It says, so long as jurors shy away from convicting people with alleged satanic connections, such atrocities will continue. Oh, my God. The atrocities will continue, Jimmy. It's like a threat. It's a threat. Yeah, you better convict him or else your kids are going to be found in a field with a big X carved on their chest and their throats cut. So they deliberate nine hours on this nine hours because there's multiple things and

they find him guilty of first degree murder. So he's guilty of first degree premeditated. And he's also found guilty of using a felony of using drugs to injure or facilitate a crime. They got him on both. Sentencing comes around and he has his chance to say something. To show he's a human being at least and try to get

some mercy. He says, quote, I'm sorry that your son was killed but I did not kill him. Thank you. That's all he has to say. So the judge says, you, sir, may fuck off. Life in prison.

How's that? Life in prison and the drug, he has a shitload for the drug, but it's all concurrent, so it doesn't matter. Either way, the family,

Wayne's family, said 30 years is not life in prison because at the time, the statute for life was 30 years. They said that they want the legislature to put more bite into sentencing guidelines. It says it seems like nowadays the sentences are just a laughing matter. So this is what caused all of these terrible 90s death penalty sentences because people were so mad that they were like, 30 years isn enough so now they we kill innocent people so okay back off from that at some point we'll find a sweet spot where we put guilty people in jail for the right amount of time and you know

we'll find years you know for if it weren't for a mortgage people would never be able to quantify 30 years that's so fucking long even a mortgage is like i'll be dead before that's paid off who cares that's what you think like i'm sure i'll be dead in 30 years who's who lives that long you know it's not gonna happen but if not for that because there's nothing else that in our lives that is 30 years you know i mean yeah you work for 30 years but even then if you worked for 30 years that's so fucking long. It is. It's a long fucking time. So he appeals this case.

Obviously, he appeals it. The main thing is he's going to get he's going to not win the appeal. They're going to he's trying to say that they said he didn't testify and all that. But he does say during this appeal, it's a six to one decision. And the court for this appeal, the dissenting opinion, they throw out the sentence on the drug charge, though. There's a weird thing on that. It's a legal matter. But the dissenting opinion says, I disagree with the majority that it was harmless error to permit the jury to take the book. Satanism is your family safe to the jury

room during its deliberations. The defendant is alleged to practice Satanism and the title of the book alone suggests to jurors that he's a threat to themselves and their families. It's clearly error to permit a jury while pondering the fate of an alleged warlock to have access to a book stating so long as jurors shy away from convicting people with alleged satanic connections, such atrocities will continue. I would reverse the convictions and remand the case for new trial. But they don't. That's that.

So Wayne is buried at Brook Park Cemetery in Pine County, Minnesota. He's a nice little tombstone. And Wayne is still in jail. Or not Wayne. Daniel's still in jail. So, I mean, it's been over 30 years. He's still there. And it says

expiration date life so he's still there's no uh you know release date or i don't know what's going on if he's got parole hearings or anything but he's he's in there now and that is iota minnesota and a halloween spectacular does it get more halloweeny than that jesus christ no only if it was like a candy poisoning would have been the only way to make it more Halloween-y. That was heavy, man. And the Halloween party and Satanism. It's all there, man. Were they in a Toyota up there in Minnesota?

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