Small Town Murder - #334 - The Missing Blood Mystery - Grayson, Kentucky

Episode Date: November 12, 2022

This week, in Grayson, Kentucky, a troubled man with a rough history, gets out of prison, finds a girlfriend, and gets wasted. He drinks, smokes, and even takes horse tranquilizers, while surrounding himself with a not very wholesome group of people. One, night, he loses his mind, and tries to cook strange foods, trashes his mother's house, and threatens to kill his brother, but ends up doing far worse, later in the night. When police look into a window, they find him, with jewelry, hanging from his pocket, and a brutally murdered corpse. But did he do it, or is he the unluckiest man, who ever lived???Along the way, we find out that Kentucky has a lot of caves, that whiskey & horse tranquilizers don't mix, and that some murders are so bad, that people feel like SOMEONE has to pay!!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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We have a lot of show. Great. Plenty of murder to get to. So I think it's time to sit back. Jimmy, what do you say? Let's clear the lungs wherever you are. I normally say not too public of a place. You know what?

I don't care anymore. And neither should you. Who gives a shit? Scream it out your car window. Let's do it. Shut up and give me murder. Let's do it, Jimmy. What do you say? Okay. Let's do it, Jimmy. What do you say?

Okay. Let's go on a trip. We are going all the way to Kentucky. Yeah. On down Kentucky over here. We are going to Grayson, Kentucky. Grayson. I assume you've never heard of because no one has really.

It's in northeastern Kentucky up there in the, I guess it would be more of the pan actually, kind of the edge of the pan over there. It's a bizarre-shaped state. It is. You can tell there's a lot of compromises being made when those borders were put together. That's an acquiescent. There's a lot of compromising going on with the squigglies and this goes here. Fine. It's yours.

All right. Well, on this side of the river is mine, so you can just see what happened. Yeah. Definitely. It's about two hours to Cincinnati, about an hour 35 to Lexington, Kentucky, and about two hours down to Raccoon, Kentucky, which was our last Kentucky episode, and that was crazy, if I remember correctly. Sure do.

Population of this town, 3,832 people, so not a very big town. Yeah. Kind of in the middle of nowhere. Median income here, this is household income, $31,105 per year. So very low. 47% of people make $30,000 or less per year. Is that right? Yeah. It's not an affluent area. Retail is 25% of the jobs here. That is way above the normal. More than twice. Yeah, way too many.

Median home cost, also low, $123,600 is the median home cost. So that's very low. 23. $123,600. $123,000. That's low. Their motto is, this is the strangest motto we've ever encountered so far heart heart of the parks lungs of the library how you can call what the fuck are we talking about cock of the

walk cock of city hall what's happening um the their other one of the part of the parks and uh the other one is where your imagination wins yeah which I believe that's, isn't that like reading Rainbows tagline, I think, probably? So history of this town here. It's named after William Grayson, who was George Washington's aide-de-camp. He was George Washington's right-hand man. They gave him a 70,000-acre tract of land for his services. 70,000 acres. 70,000.

So in 1838, a small portion of this tract was set aside as a town to name after him. They already had something here. There was the Little Sandy Salt Works was the name of the place. That was the name of the town before they gave it to him. That's wordy. Little Sandy Salt Works. Feels like of the place. That was the name of the town before they gave it to him. That's wordy. Little Sandy Salt Works. Feels like you could chop that down. Yeah, Little Sandy, call it that.

They had a post office as early as 1811. Then it was just shortened to Little Sandy in 1821. And then they moved the whole town about a mile and renamed it Grayson after this guy. A mile. A mile. Just move it a mile down that way, like Blazing Saddle style. What was over there? Nothing, apparently.

Just move it over there. Couldn't have been anything else there. It's just in the way. This is the woods, by the way. There's nothing around anywhere. It's also the, this is the seat of Carter County. And yeah, it was settled by salt makers. That's why it was Little Sandy Saltworks.

They made salt here. It was originally, by the way, known as Crossroads, then Little Sandy Saltworks, then Little Sandy, then Grayson. How do you make salt? It's been a lot. You grind rocks? Salt deposit? I don't know how. You know what?

We'll leave that for smarter people. How to make salt. And then you can put it in a thing and you sell it for 39 cents a pound. That's how it works. I don't know how. You know what? We'll leave that for smarter people. How to make salt. And then you can put it in a thing and you sell it for 39 cents a pound. That's how it works. Or put it in packets and give it away. Give it away for free. So reviews of this town.

A few of these here. Here's five stars. Love it. Perfect. My fiance's family is from Grayson. I love the area. There are trees and hills everywhere. The people are southern in kind. It's a nice and tranquil place to

live. I believe it. There you go. She doesn't live there, though, this person. Or him, either one. Here's three stars. Grayson is a small town. It's generally a quiet environment. However, because it is small, there's not a lot of things to do. That's a common complaint.

We have a bowling alley and a few bars. Well, there's something to do anyway. I wish Grayson would add some new businesses, not a few, some. Better places to shop, different places to eat, et cetera. In other words, I wish it was a different town that I lived in. I wish I lived elsewhere. I wish I lived in a bigger town is what you're saying. Three stars.

Here we go. I like it okay in a bigger town is what you're saying. Three stars. Here we go. I like it okay here, but it's not home. My home is Ironton, Ohio. After my daughter passed away on 6-3-2020, I feel like home is where that I need to be. What the fuck does that have to do with Grayson, Ohio? They didn't kill your daughter. Everywhere that person goes, it's just, I miss my kid. I feel for you, but don't blame the town that this isn't where you're home.

It's not their fault, is what we're saying here. I always remember my daughter died. Oh, my God. Things to do in this town. First of all, caves. There's fucking caves everywhere. Really? Go explore some caves i

guess yeah this is uh this is one of the areas i believe that the ice man talked about having places to dump bodies down long sinkholes and caves and shit like that yeah back in the day there richard kuklinski natural caves yeah caves just caves that are not man-made not like mine shafts or anything also there is fun tober fest all right oh yeah baby i'm dancing people can't see that at home fun tober it doesn't even make sense doesn't even make sense that's why i had to read it like three times to make sure i was typing it correctly i'm like fun fun tober that's what it says even funk tober sounds cool a little better it's a great day for families to celebrate the fun in in all capital letters, of autumn returning.

Sample chili and preview the spooky highlights just around the corner at Halloween. Chili in the Hills is back! So, that's what it says. There is a chili contest, which that's good, that sounds fun. A lot of diarrhea after that, that's going to be crazy. A pet costume contest, A people costume contest. You really shouldn't have to differentiate between those two. If you said pet and then a costume contest, we'd assume the regular one was for people probably.

A character meet and greet, whatever the fuck that is. I don't know what characters they have there. And a not-so-haunted haunted house. Oh. Lots of smiles in there. Oh yeah. And then the coup de grave, the whole thing,

the scarecrow contest. Oh, where you make a scarecrow and there's judging. It's a big deal. Huge deal. I kind of want to see that. The scarecrow contest. Yeah,

you could see that they have, let's see here. Cash prizes consist of a hundred dollars for overall best scarecrow. Oh, it seems like it might cost you, of that in materials to build that. You think it's only $50? I'll bet it's $300, $400 to make a solid scarecrow. You got to get some overalls.

You got to get a hat for them. It's a whole deal, I think, to make a scarecrow. Not strong, yeah. $50 for most original and $50 for scariest. Scarecrows are only supposed to be scary to birds, though, so how do you make a scary scarecrow? And that's just because they're standing there, not because they're, you know, you don't have to put blood on their face or anything. Entries may be brought to the tourism cabin. What?

The tourism? There's a tourism cabin. Cabin. So, yeah, they'll be on display for public viewing as a part of the fun tober fest celebration the winner of the scary part is the is this fucking city cabin city tourism cabin that's creepy as fuck fun tober fest is three words you mix together that's too many words can't take that so that said oh and then there's another one that has a big baby pageant. That's their main thing, and it's really creepy looking.

I really hope they stop this. That's bad. That said, let's talk about a murder. What do you say, Jimmy? Let's get into this. We have a crazy goddamn story here. We have to talk about a young man, first of all. Samuel Stephen Fields is his name, which I see Stephen Fields.

And I think of Stephen Fielding. I think of the Stevie documentary. So automatically, all I picture is Stevie. So and if you don't know who that is, there's a documentary named Stevie that we've talked about many times. And just picture a complete dirt bag with sunglasses are like four times the size of his face and like three different hats on like a frog in his pocket and the glasses were taped right they weren't even oh yeah taped together and molestation charges hanging over his head the whole time so that's that's what i picture yeah looming litigation for molesting a niece children yeah so that's not him but that's what i picture here samuel stephen

fields it's not that far off honestly close enough yeah he's born in 1969 old sammy he goes by sammy sammy fields here 1969 his mother uh sharon says that um he had a rough upbringing yeah there's uh his brother backs up the fact that he's got a brother named John that says that there's pretty violent home life there. We'll find out dad's a cop, which is interesting. Wow. Is it really that interesting? Dad's doling out beatings. Some of the highest DV in the fucking community.

Well, later on when he's running for office, it becomes interesting. That becomes interesting when he's trying to get elected for something yeah that comes up so yeah so his mother says that sammy from the time he was 10 to 18 years old young sammy lived in 11 different homes in four states over that time period yeah so that's a lot of moving problems with the mother and the father and uh oh man 11 homes in four that's a lot of moving. Problems with the mother and the father. Wow, man. Eleven homes in four states is a lot. That's just moving a lot.

I could see like 11 different homes in the same area. In your family, in the same, yeah. Where you had a six-month lease over here, and you moved over there, you found a better apartment. I lived in 100 places when I was a kid, but not in four different fucking states and 11 things. That's just a lot. I understand this area, too, though. Indiana's right there.

Kentucky or Ohio's right there. You could live in four different states and live within a 50-mile radius of this place. That's the other thing. So that's another issue to think about here. She said he changed schools seven times from 10 to 18. That's not good. No, that's bad. From fifth grade to senior year, seven schools is a lot. Different school every 18. That's not good. No, that's bad. From fifth grade to

senior year, seven schools is a lot. Different school every year. It's a lot. That's way too many schools. Yeah, I would say that's too many schools here. And at the same time, there's violence. People are getting their asses beat. I assume there's probably stepfathers mixed into this or boyfriends and completely been being neglected by the father as well. So there's a lot here. By the time he's an adult, he's a complete mess. Oh, he's good and angry too. Not surprising here, Sam.

He's born in 69. So by the early, by 1990, he's a disaster. And furious. And pissed off. He's 21. He's being arrested all the time for, starts out with minor things, escalates to things such as burglary and stuff like that here. His father, who goes by Ronnie, that's not his real name, but he goes by Ronnie. He was a police officer, had formerly worked in the Grayson Police Department and then was working in another department here.

So in 1990, Sammy is sentenced to for burglary and theft. He's sentenced to, so you know this isn't his first offense. Right. You, sir, may fuck off five years in prison for it. Holy shit. So he's been up to some shenanigans if he's 21 and he's already getting five years for burglary. Yeah.

And they've had enough of his shit. They've already had enough of his shit. march 1992 he's paroled so he serves a little over two years and he gets paroled so that's nice but within a month he pretty much immediately violates his parole really gets put back in prison again so this time he has to go back for about another year and a half, which is a bad fuck up. Like I was out and now I got to go back to prison for a year and a half. That's a lot. You're 25 doing your second prison bid. Oh, my God.

Yeah. Because you couldn't stay out. And that's kind of a pattern that we'll see develop with him. He goes out. He goes right back in. He has no that thing that tells you maybe I shouldn't do that. It's not there with him he's just like no sounds good buddy yeah hell yeah free bird like he's just ready to rock and roll

let's do it fuck yeah every time you're dying you're living you're dying pal let's get let's get to getting you know what i'm saying let's get to getting while the getting's good you know what i mean all right then he's got his t-shirt that he wears all the time that says let's get to getting while the getting's good getting to getting so that's that's him um so eventually though august 2nd 1993 he's paroled here okay again again he's paroled and uh at this point of his parole, his dad would really, really like him to stop fucking up. Not being a dickhead. His dad is running for sheriff of the county. And he is the Republican nominee for sheriff. You know what I mean?

And it's not a political thing. John Wayne Gacy's a Democrat. Ted Bundy's a Republican. It doesn't fucking matter. There have been terrible people, terrible murderers on all sorts of this political spectrum, so let's not attach anything to that. So, anyway, his father's name is James.

James goes by Ronnie, so right there that's a weird thing. That's questionable as fuck. I would say so. But his son, Sammy, gets released from the Bell County Forestry Camp, which is a forestry camp, Jesus, which is near Pineville,

and he was serving out all of his shit here. So his dad is trying to tell him, please, for the love of God, don't get sent back to prison, at least before the election, for Christ's sake. Stop plunking up my life. Stop, please, because every time it's in the paper, they say, son of sheriff nominee.

Like, God damn it. You're not just you, sir. So he's out here and on. He's out on August 2nd. And within a week, he has really got himself ass deep in a crazy, weird life again. And he's just crazy for a guy who's been in prison for three years. You'd think it would take him a minute just to minute just to wade back into the scum scene. Just to get your heels back in the mud.

You don't know who's there, who's where, where do I go at night, who do I talk to anymore. This person's in jail. They moved away. This guy overdosed. Things happen to people. But right away, he's got a girlfriend. He's got all this type got, um, you know, a girlfriend, he's got all this type of shit. Um,

this is amazing by the way, his girlfriend forgot to mention this when he was a teenager, he got married at some point. What? Yeah. He got married at some, which is not surprising. He's bad decisions.

He got married while he's in prison. He got divorced apparently. So he's, so he's, that's the other thing. Now he's in prison, he got divorced, apparently. That's the other thing now. He's like 24 years old, and he's twice been to prison. A twice prison-bidded divorcee at this point in time. That's a two-time loser, right? I would say so.

He might as well have six kids at this point. He's a disaster. But he finds a girlfriend named minnie burton hell yeah uh minnie is a few years older than him oh and minnie oh my god minnie is his ex-wife's aunt so like what the fuck i read that i'm like well are you kidding me his dad's got to be rethinking shit right happening in this story already any of this gets out i'm fucked yeah all of this is bad news all right all of this jesus christ he's bagging his ex-wife's aunt now for fuck's sake jesus oh god just stay out of jail for two more goddamn months. How do you think for a second you're qualified for public office when this is your family? This is a disaster, man.

This is a disaster. A fucking mess. Well, you're not responsible for your kids. I say you can't be. I think that's the only people you're responsible for. No, no, no, no, no. You're not. If you have one kid, you're responsible for them.

If you have five kids, I don't give a fuck who you are. One of those fucking kids will be a disaster. You might be right. Every single time. How many times have you seen really good families? All the kids. Oh, this one went to Harvard. This one went to Yale.

This one's in jail for meth distribution for 14 years. This one's an astronaut. That's just what happens. Yeah. for 14 years this one's a you know an astronaut like that's just what happens yeah you know so they could be fine but i feel like everybody's a fuck up because when you're moving around that much and there's violence in the home it's a disaster gather on everything yeah that's sand falls through your fingers it's it's it's too hard i feel like dad may have caused a lot of this is the problem that's the issue if've caused it, then you're definitely responsible for him. With violence in the home, then anything a kid does after he gets the shit beaten out of him his whole childhood is kind of up in the air.

So he's dating his ex-wife's aunt, which, again, that's just right there. Very, very, says Kentucky, a town in Kentucky that has caves to look into. That's what that says to me. I don't know. Where's that taking place? I don't know, but I bet there's caves. I'll tell you that right now. That is awesome. ex-aunt-in-law, acted, her job, for lack of a better term, is to be a chauffeur slash helper for an 84-year-old woman.

I'm sure the pay is great. I'm sure the pay is out. Well, the pay is the fact that Minnie gets to live rent-free in a duplex apartment with this old lady. So, right next to the old lady that next to the old lady yeah she better hope that old lady doesn't die because then she's fucked she's got a lot of a lot of uh reason to keep her alive so every day the old lady is bess is her name which that's an old lady bess stidham horton Horton. So Bess Horton she goes by. She's 84 years old at the time here.

And, yeah, what she would do is, the problem is, during up to this, once Minnie started dating Sammy, she started kind of neglecting her duties. so what happens is mrs horton decides that she's going to evict minnie burton because the only reason she's staying there is because she's helping her if she's not going to help me then fuck off you know somebody else in there so i guess uh mrs horton cut off the water to minnie's apartment which is definitely a way to say your time is up and it's about time to go now you have guests at your house and you want them to leave just cut off the water to their bathroom in the morning they'll get the hint they'll be like i think they want us to leave there's no water time for us to go i'm brushing my teeth with an arrowhead bottle over here so that tells me that i think they want us to leave what do you say so um what she would do she'd have to spend the last few nights she spent them at the homes

of friends she's been couch hopping for that time so at one point and this is by the way sammy and minnie are constantly getting super fucked up they're drinking they're doing drugs it's a it's a real cd or ass kind of lifestyle they got going on here. So, you know, things that they say in passing that people may have heard them say, who knows how serious they were. I want to preface that. But people have heard Minnie Burton say about Mrs. Horton that, quote, someone ought to kill her. Someone ought to kill that old bitch. Just tired of her. Okay. She's that old bitch. Just tired of her.

Okay. She's an asshole. She's 84, man. Well, I mean, grumpy, though. Wait a minute. Grumpy. You want her to die? Wait.

Bide your time. Bide your time. Guess what? It'll happen. Yeah, your time is on your side. You ever heard that song? That's what's going on right now. Time is on your side. That's heard that song? That's what's going on right now. Time is on your side.

That's how it works here. That's it. Mick Jagger was right. He, that is the Rolling Stones, right? I'm not going to get shit for that. I don't know. Probably not. I think we mixed up Pete Townsend and Peter Frampton in an episode at one point just because it had nothing to do with either one of them.

And it was a quick aside. And they're both named Pete. And we just i we know the difference it just came out wrong so i mixed up 311 and incubus like that it happens that that couldn't matter less that's really is the same i feel like as members of those bands start to die they'll intermix with each other and start you know 311 bus and it'll be that's inky 11 yeah that's what's gonna happen i feel like it's just a bunch of white dudes with dreads and hacky sacks yeah and it's not white dudes with dreads doing it for style it's because they're dirty it's yeah it just happened to be that's what happened because they haven't taken a shower in three months it's yeah they didn't do it and put like a wax thing. No, no, no.

This is just, oh, you're just filthy. That's just time. That's just a dog who's been sleeping in a bush for five months or something. Not good. So she had said that. She told her friend, Minnie Burton

had told her friend, her friend's name is Phyllis Berry. She says that Mrs. Horton, the old lady, kept a metal box in her bedroom. It's got about $4,000 in it. So, you know, I mean, there's that also. She just mentioned that in passing to a friend of hers. So what? Okay.

Now, August 18th, 1993. Keep in mind, it has been 16 days that Sammy's been out of jail now. This is day 16 of freedom. Two days beyond two weeks. It's insane, all right? So from about noon on this day right through midnight so a good 12 hour shift Sammy Minnie Burton and Phyllis Berry and a couple other

people who come and go from the car as they pick them up and drop them off drive around Carter and Boyd counties what is their activity while they're driving around what are they doing drinking they let's go for a ride to drink is the strangest we've had that in

several episodes where people just drive around to drink and i'm like that's the only activity you shouldn't do while you're drinking find a place to drink shit and then don't drive that's the only thing and they're like i just like to drive around while i drink why 12 hours of it 12 hours of it just driving that's like you got to put gas in the car a couple of times over the course of that you know yeah a couple of stops we pick up more beer i guess and two hours into it the ride gets real uh not steady no keep going that's a lot of drinking 12 hours drinking and thinking buddy that. That's what they're doing. So they're consuming. They have a couple smaller bottles of hard liquor here and there.

What? A couple little bottles of hard liquor mixed in there, but mostly just beer, though. Mostly just cases of beer. They made two separate trips to Ashland to purchase, quote, several cases of beer in each transaction. Several. So I'm going to say that's at least three, right? For the run. Several.

So we're talking two separate trips, at least six cases of beer between a group of three to five people. That's a shitload of beer. Probably leaning on eight. That's what I mean. I wouldn't be surprised if several means four i'm just going completely conservative estimate here i'm saying six and that's case is 24 so you're talking about if they got four that's a hundred beers and if they did that twice that is two

hundred just sheer math alone that's a lot is mind bogg. How many piss breaks are they making? And if you had five people in the car, it'd be every three minutes. I gotta piss now. Now I gotta for son of a bitch, coordinate your piss. If women can sync their periods up, you fucking pussies can sync your goddamn bladders up. Fuck. It's gotta be every

fucking 15 minutes they're stopping. It has to be. It's crazy. They're just drinking beer, so it's crazy they're just drinking beer so it's a lot of beer we'll just say during this jesus christ it gets crazier okay like i said mixing a little hard liquor with that too you know right a couple of fifths a couple of little fifths of some whiskey or something here there one time they stop at phyllis's brother's house phyllis berry this is minnie's friend his this is his aunt-in-law girl slash girlfriend's uh friend here um stopped at his brother's house uh and

which was in boyd county where sammy drank a bunch of whiskey and ingested what is and we're not talking like a designer drug here, by the way. Think about it. This is 1993 in rural Kentucky, so this is literally, it is what it's made for. And some, quote, horse tranquilizers. Huh? Are you fucking kidding me? How many? Some is what is the official. That's the measurement.

That's the official measurement that we're getting from the whole thing is he took some horse tranquilizers. Like I said, these are probably just big pills for horses. Right. Literally horse pills. That's a big old horse pill. That's for horses. It's probably got a horse imprinted on it. I guess you give them this to drive them or something.

I don't know. Or for medical things. Yeah, putting them in trailers and such. Yeah, we drug Frankie before we take her to the vet, so she doesn't maul anybody. Kick the windows out. Yeah, the vet's windows we're talking about. Leave a trail of bodies behind her.

She's going to be like 11 coming out of that room in the last season, you know what I mean? Just all the little kids. Yeah, bloody and dead bodies everywhere that's gonna be frankie she's dangerous so um so he took some horse tranquilizers drank some whiskey yeah shit loads of beer and a hundred beers say so you add all that on there so sammy and minnie aunt-in-law girlfriend right finally returned back to the town of grayson with the intent of spending the night sleeping over at a house that is um owned by or that where his sammy's mother and brother live. We're going to go stay at mom and John's house. I believe it's John is the other guy.

The brother? Yeah, the brother. We're going to stay over there, okay? So they enter the house, Minnie and Sammy, and he continues to drink beer, obviously, because, I mean, why not? Got to keep it going. Still.

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At least I won't send him off into a frenzy. But once he gets to his mom's house, though, out of fucking control he's a mess he's a mess um minnie says that they started there at that time she tells his brother that they're fighting because because his brother walks in to the living to the kitchens like what the fuck is wrong with sammy here and minnie said well we're fighting because, I'm sorry, the mother came in and they said that. We're fighting because

Sammy's trying to, quote, cook crazy stuff like pickles and shit that you don't really cook. He's got a frying pan out. It's in a frying pan. He's got a frying pan and he's trying to cook pickles in a frying pan.

Ain't you ever had fried pickles? Yeah, they like but that's you need to have a batter there's a oil he's sauteing a pickle just sauteing her up but not even like slicing it up trying to do something he's just putting a just a whole pickle on a fucking frying pan and they're like you know what are you doing hungry so that's why they're arguing it man yeah that's why they're arguing because she's like you don't cook a fucking pickle it's been soaking and that's stupid why are you doing that why don't you just let him learn his lesson well he said this is great he told her quote at that point she's like why are you doing this why and he goes because i don't have any control over anything I do. That's what he told her.

Okay. Now, at this point, Phyllis describes him as, quote, highly intoxicated, which I'm not surprised at. His brother, he describes Sammy as, quote, wired up and ready to fight. So it is volatile in here. All right. Those are the same thing. Well, they meld together really, really well here for him. When he's had enough of critique of his cuisine at this.

He just said, you know what? I'm sorry. Three stars. Fuck you. It's gourmet. He's had it he's gonna comment on the yelp reviews now and begins to throw pickles and then followed by whatever other food he could find around the house and then when he runs out of food to throw around the house he

just starts grabbing furniture takes a chair hucks it across the living room. Everybody runs for cover. Starts grabbing knives out of the cutting block by the handle and just like in one motion grab the knife and throw it across the room like a fucking psychopath. So they're all running. This is all around. Everyone's running around like, holy shit, Jesus Christ, what the fuck? Minnie Burton at this point flees the residence, just runs out the door and tells him that I'm going to my apartment. Fucking I'm getting the fuck out of here. This is crazy.

I'm leaving. So she goes to her apartment that has no water that the old lady has turned the water off on. I'd rather be somewhere with no utilities. It's a goddamn disaster. So she takes off either way. She's gone. So now he says, all right, bye. Waves, I'm sure, very politely from I will keep the light on for you.

And, you know, she runs off into the night. He then goes back in the house and continues to just destroy things, just breaks the TV, knocks this over, fuck up the toaster oven, just starts breaking general personal property and all sorts of shit like that. Then there's like a sliding glass door in the kitchen. Oh, no. He punches through the door and breaks that with his fist, slicing his arm to shit, of course, because that's a stupid thing to do. Right, because they haven't put tempered glass in those yet. Exactly. They haven't put tempered glass in those yet.

Exactly. It's not going to just splinter. That is like a plate glass window that I'm sure shattered and sliced his arm up pretty good. He's got lacerations on his right arm. That's an exclamation point on the day. And fist. Oh, no. He hasn't gotten there yet.

Oh, God. That's just an ellipsis. That's a dot, dot, dot. There's way more than that. Now that he's tasted blood, now the night's on. Now it's on. He's thrown pickles. He's broken TVs. Now he's tasted blood.

Let's get going. Everything in the house so far is replaceable. Now it's the neighbors can see how fucked our life is. The doors. They heard it in loud. They watched the glass fall as my crazy drunken brother throws a pickle at them from the open doorway. They understand now. He then threatens his brother with a knife, which is very nice, of course.

He starts threatening he's going to stab his brother. His brother kind of backs off. So then he says, fine. Sammy's like, all right, you don't want me here. Obviously, I'm not welcome. I don't know why. Who am I, the bad guy? So it looks like I'm a tornado in your house, but that's okay.

Sorry about Hurricane Sammy. By the way, you need more pickles. Thank you. So pick those up and put them on the- Guess you should study the storms for the hurricane warning. I wrote it on the fridge. Pickles. They're there.

You're out of pickles. They're out of pickles. It's on the list. Okay. So he then says. I'll still get a new door. Fine. Also, it's drafty in here.

I'm just saying. It's cold. So he says, I'm leaving, but first let me take whatever beer you have left. So he retrieves several more cans of beer, holds them like a baby in his arms, and then holding a knife just fucking stumbles out of the apartment. So he just came through like a hurricane in an hour destroyed the entire place and left and bled all over the place thanks thanks sammy so happy he's out of jail this is terrific really i could i could really use a beer if sammy hadn't taken them all fuck my life man so minnie can't get into her apartment because she's been locked out because she's being evicted obviously here

so she can't do that so uh um that now the uh the it's getting foggy she's sitting there all of a sudden she hears from down the street mini she's sitting out on the porch just don't know what else to do so she just hears like this sound this like sound coming from down the street yelling screaming bang loud bangs which turns out to be someone punching the street signs which is really loud if you ever punch a street sign it's super fucking loud especially clangs at one o'clock in the morning in a small mountain town where there's nothing else going on it's you know yeah and hearing like he's like you know screaming and yelling like judd nelson running down the halls and breakfast club while he's banging on that's hurricane sam

here he comes um so all she says she's sitting there out of nowhere here out of the fog he emerges covered in blood holding a knife okay and and his beer's gone we get no more beer left obviously so he arrived and he goes he's got the knife in his hand he's covered in blood and she's like what the fuck is wrong with you he goes kill my brother yeah stabbed him he's dead he didn't kill his brother didn't stab his brother at all he just tells her that he said will you get rid of the murder weapon and hands it to her and she she's like what the fuck so she's holding this she just throws it into the bushes she said she tossed it into the bushes yeah then he's then apparently according to her he quote went into a frenzy so before it wasn't a frenzy now there's a frenzy coming so everyone take cover okay

trying to get into her apartment by ripping the screens off the windows. He starts. He just starts by hand tearing screens off the windows and throwing them. And, you know, he's just going in like King Kong. So she, according to her, she again flees. She just runs away again. She's ran from him twice now so far. So Elmer Pritchard, who is apparently another tenant of this apartment that she's been kicked out of, calls the police at that point.

Thankfully. Someone's called the police. OK, so officers Lindeman and Green respond to the call. Apparently, in the time it took for this guy to tell him, what the fuck are you doing out there, and call the police, this Elmer guy, Sammy decided to back away from that house and went next door. He ends up at Mrs. Horton's residence, the 84-year-old, because he thinks Minnie might be there. She's a man, dog. He says she might have circled back and gone to there because where else is she going to go? So he said that he talked to Minnie earlier and they had talked about possibly robbing the old lady and taking her money. So we could do that.

So he sat on Mrs. Horton's porch for a while drinking more beer. Then he sees an open window in Mrs. Horton's apartment, he says. And according to him, it's an open window. But we find out it's not an open window. It needed to be helped along quite a bit to be opened. Like a lock needed to be picked with a knife and all this type of shit. So he then climbs into, he says he climbs into Mrs. Horton's bedroom through this open window. he says he climbs into Mrs. Horton's bedroom through this open window he said he lit his lighter

you know flicked his bick here for you know to light up the room and saw that the room had been ransacked oh my god someone's someone's been here so he said well shit I better start pocketing whatever I can get my hands on then

cause it's someone already started so he then began pocketing whatever I can get my hands on then because it's someone already started. So he then began pocketing whatever he can find, including a knife and some jewelry and razor blades and all this shit. Right. So while he's doing this, the officers who have been called noticed a light on inside the Horton residence, the old lady's house. So they find the garage door open, but the inside door locked. So they find the garage door open, but the inside door locked. Then they discovered the open window and climbed through it. And as they popped their heads through it, there is dipshit Sammy standing there with literally jewelry hanging from his pockets, dangling from his pockets with a knife in his hand, arms covered in blood, shirt covered in blood, jewelry hanging from his pocket.

They put the flashlight on him. He freezes like a deer, like, oh, shit. Right? Imagine walking into that. Then the other guy pops up in the window, puts his flashlight around the room, and on the bed is Mrs. Horton's dead body. Oh, my God. They see. Yeah.

They find her there. He's at the foot of the bed with jewelry hanging out of his pocket and a knife in his hand. Okay? So not looking good for him mrs horton her throat has been slashed deep and and wide like a really a nasty woman 84 year old woman and that's not enough though which this is i i haven't mentioned this in 300 episodes or so but but my great grandmother was murdered. She was 83 years old, I believe, when it happened, when I was like 11. And her throat was slashed, too. Same thing. Someone came in and tied her to a chair and did all this shit.

This lady didn't get tied down, but her throat is slashed, and then this is horrible. Okay. This is horrible. Okay. She is stabbed in her right temple. Oh, man. With such force that it is in to the hilt to her right temple, and the point of the knife is poking out of her left temple. Holy shit.

All the way through. Through her head like a fucking Steve Martin bow and arrow, but real. That's two bones. That is horrific. That's how hard that was fucking pushed in there okay so obviously there's a problem when they go holy shit there's you there's the body he goes i didn't know she was in here that's what sammy says i didn't know i don't know what you're talking about i just saw it was ransacked and someone must have come in here and killed him and i don't know what happened.

So they search him. He's got a knife. He's got two razor blades, a bunch of her jewelry, all this sort of shit. They take that out of his pockets. He then said to the cop, which I guess he knows this cop's name because his dad is a cop and he knows these cops. He says, quote, kill me, Ron. Just kill me.on just kill me i stabbed her and i'm into this and i'm into it big time you know i'm into it big this time he

said so he's fucked um they said well why'd you kill her dude what the fuck man and he said quote i don't know kill me ron i'm going to prison for the rest of my life this time probably okay but that's obviously pre miranda that's just he they pop through whatever he wants yeah when they pop their head in they shine their light on him they were like sammy they know him what the fuck you doing in here so he um he will later on deny saying that both officers said that he said that but either way it's pre-miranda um they lindeman actually was one that jumped on him, knocked him to the floor. And,

um, he, Sammy claims they knocked him to the floor, held a gun to his head and made him admit it. That's what he said, which is a useless way. If they were going to put a gun to your head, make you admit it.

They do it down at the station where they could write it down. Like this is not the best place for that. So he's arrested. Obviously he's sent to the hospital. Um, everybody says he's obviously pretty intoxicated. He's treated at the emergency room for the cuts on his right arm. No stitches required, actually.

What? He's lucky. Just a lot of scratches that bled a lot. He was examined by an EMT who said there was – he told – he was sitting there. The EMT was working on him. He said, there seems like too much blood on your arms and clothes to have been caused by just this. Oh, shit. And Sammy responds, quote, you stupid sumbitch.

If you just killed some lady, you'd be covered in blood, too. That's his response. So they washed the blood off his arm and all that shit at the hospital. Later on, the fucking, okay, blood typing and DNA testing reveals that none of the blood found on his clothing belonged to Bess Horton. What? And none of the blood on Horton's bed belonged to him. Hmm. How the fuck does that happen?

It's not him. He could be honestly telling the truth somebody else did that he saw a window open and is the unluckiest son of a bitch in the history of the world you can't open somebody's neck and not get blood on you no and then stab a knife through their temple no you open a neck yeah and if he did any of this there'd be his blood on her if he did it somewhere else and then brought her to the bed that would explain no brought up blood on the bed but there'd be blood on her from his arms from carrying her you know what i mean there and vice versa her blood would be all over him for sure so i i don't know you know what i mean i don't know how this happens i believe he this drunk fuck is telling the truth now minnie on the other hand i

don't i just find it odd that every time something happened she just ran away that's just sounds weird she ran away at that point she ran away she knows who she's with she knows who this guy is i mean although it's possible i'm not i'm just saying a lot of things are very strange here so that was a very weird thing they also there's a officer Lindman and a cameraman. They do like a reenactment at this crime scene where Lindman reenacts his route from the duplex to the other Horton residence to kind of, I guess, take the prosecutor through everything to the open garage door through the bedroom. Then he narrated his way through what he was doing. And then we found him here and we did all this shit in the bedroom. And after entering the bedroom during the reenactment, Lindman used his flashlight to demonstrate how he drew his gun on Sammy.

He narrated how the jewelry, the knife, the razor blades had been removed from his pockets. And then he said, you know, I killed her. I'm going, I'm fucked this time, whatever it was. So the camera panned around, showed blood all over the place. There was blood on the carpet, which ended up being his blood, Sammy's blood. Yeah. But not her blood. Very strange.

So finally, they focused the camera on the bed. The body's still there, by the way. They're doing all this while the body's there. Throat slashed, knife still buried in her temple. Oh, my God. They focus on her and her wounds for 40 seconds at the end of the video. So that'll be played in court here. The blood thing is the craziest thing.

So his whole argument, and illegally, is where's the blood? Why is her blood not on me? Why is my blood not on me? Why is my blood not on her? They said he argues that no blood from Horton's slashed throat would have landed on him. If indeed he was the one that slashed it, it would have landed on him. I mean, it's crazy to think it wouldn't. He says that the true culprit of such a gruesome murder would have to have some of the victim's blood on them. Hard to disagree with that.

So either way, he blames Minnie Burton. That's his kind of thing. He says that he even has a witness that would testify but got into a serious car accident, so he can't testify. But he would have testified, this guy, Vince Kimmel is his name, he would have testified that Fields tried uh he said that uh fields he tried to say that he overheard minnie confess that's what it was so that's that's his testimony he heard minnie confess to the whole thing but no one else did except for this guy

who's in a serious car accident so i don't know um now dad has to be like fuck god damn it must you stab an old lady in the head while i say how how much i'm going to keep the streets safe for old ladies god damn it jesus christ you couldn't have done anything worse sam Sammy, you son of a bitch. I can't even keep them safe from my own children. So 1994, he's supposed to have his trial, but the trial is delayed, saying that state psychiatrists need more time to evaluate him to make sure that he can do this. This is delayed until 1996 when he's supposed to go to trial, but it's delayed again because there is an exculpatory investigative report, according to his legal team here, that was discovered in, this is the report, believe after talking with these people and listening to their stories, meaning Minnie Burton, Phyllis Berry and Phyllis's boyfriend, Scott Trent. earlier that evening and that the other people had ran off and left Sammy because he had gotten too wild for them and that Sammy returned to Minnie Burton's apartment, broke in there and looking for her, not finding her there. He returned to the crime scene of Mrs. Horton's home. So he says, I believe it was other people. That's from the police department. But what they find out

is that this report wasn't written by the investigating officers it's not signed it's just like slipped into the police report and a nice you know an official stationery and everything they found out that his fucking sammy's father wrote it who is no longer with the grayson police department he's with another police department and has nothing to do with this case at all. But he slipped it in there apparently, I furnished to the Grayson Police Department. You know, he said whatever. They ended up calling the report investigative hearsay.

And there you go. Yeah. So November 1996, they they have the cops obviously testifying to his confession. They have the EMTs confessing or talking about his confessions. Other than that, they don't have too much other than people saw him climb in the window. And it just looks really bad when a cop pops into the window with their flashlight and you're standing next to a corpse holding a knife with a pocket full of that corpse's jewelry in your fucking pockets correct that looks bad like so bad there is no greater definition of caught red-handed than that like it's huh unless he was you know actively driving the knife through her brain at the time

would have been the only other better time to catch him so they testify to that and the prosecutor is at the end here the prosecutor calls to him a predator and says quote he chose to butcher this defenseless woman as she lay in her bed he did it for the money or the thrill or both three and a half hours of deliberations from the jury oh shit and they find him guilty of murder. During sentencing, he's referred to as the worst of the worst. And they said there's no evidence that this defendant was acting under extreme emotional disturbance because he tried to say it was the intoxication defense. He may have been drinking, but he knew exactly what he was doing. His defense attorney said, come on.

He said he wasn't born into a family where he was taught moral values. Vote Fields. That's what the defense says. Listen, he wasn't ever taught moral values. It's impossible to say out loud. He said he was physically and emotionally abused throughout his childhood. He said no one should have to go through what he went through growing up. We don't need to kill Sam Fields because the death penalty is on the table.

He didn't choose his childhood. He didn't ask for it. Well, I'm sure that Mrs. Horton didn't ask to get a knife in her brain either. Excellent point. So they said that he said that he was committing another. The prosecutor goes on to say he was committing another burglary, which he had just gotten out of prison for 17 days earlier. So at the very least, this isn't good. He said that.

And then the defense said, I remain convinced that he is not human refuse to be carried out to the burning pile. That's as the defense's final here the jury on the other hand says you sir may fuck off death penalty they give him the death penalty plus 25 years plus 20 years i think they got it wrong man this is this is a rough one so So in 2000, the Kentucky Supreme Court strikes down the conviction, saying that the court ruled that the jurors should have been allowed to hear the audio portions of the police officer's video at the crime scene. They just showed the video, not the audio. What's the point of that? I don't know. Also said the jury should have had the option of convicting him of second degree manslaughter, which if they sentenced him to death for murder, they probably weren't going to give him second degree manslaughter. So that's what I'm going to think here. They vote four to three. The justices actually to overturn this. So they overturn it. Retrial his defense theory. Obviously, she was dead before I got there. That's it.

That's what it is. That's a tough one to defend. They said, come on. They said, look, the blood, they said that the blood evidence is big. There's blood in the crime scene in places where it should be, in places where it shouldn't be. They said that he was leaving blood on the sidewalk, on the back steps, on the front screen porch handle. Wherever he went, there's a trail of blood all the way down the street they said that you know he and of course mrs horton let out a

bunch of blood as well and all that blood you know obviously they should have gotten on each other at least and uh they didn't he also says the timeline doesn't work he says that uh fields had fewer than 50 minutes to commit the murder the guy called the police at 157. By 247, they found Fields in Horton's house and were radioing the incident in. So they said that also that's the other thing. He has this one knife and they said that how did he take out the storm window? He had this knife, but he was saying that that knife wasn't the one that where was that knife now? It was a big a big whole thing

uh for that this knife theory so they also say that they think that um you know it's many they're trying to alternate suspect is what they're doing too yeah pin it on many they said that her and other people had been planning to rob mrs horton and Minnie had been trying to find people to help her rob Mrs. Horton. She knew where she kept her valuables, and she's also largely unaccounted for during the time of the murder because she claimed she ran away from Sammy's mom and brother's house, went over, sat on the porch for a while, which she could have been killing Mrs. Horton during that time,

and then blah, blah, blah. And she's the angry one with soap in her eye because the shower quit. Yeah, just her really flat hair from shampoo being stuck in it. It's not good. So the verdict comes in and guilty again. Unreal. Guilty again. Sentencing.

You, sir, may fuck off again. Death penalty. Fuck. So double death penalty here. Now, twice. Two-time loser. I'm shocked. All the time.

Yeah. 2016, he is appealing this because he's still on death row by then, 16 years later. Fuck. And he wants a shitload of experts that are very expensive, including a DNA expert from – because there's four cigarette butts found in Mrs. Horton's house after her death. The DNA has already been tested, but the tests didn't identify anybody. And he thinks that that was because they were old DNA tests. Nowadays, new technology will be able to yield better results. And it's because Mrs. Horton wasn't a smoker. test nowadays, new technology will be able to yield better results.

And it's because Mrs. Horton wasn't a smoker. So whoever was in there smoking might be your person here. So they said that if a DNA test got a match on one of these butts, that it would place a different suspect at the scene. So that's all it is. So they tried to do all this. Kentucky, they basically said the DNA evidence would admittedly be new, but it would not go to any substantial question. This is legal stuff that you can't present stuff. You can only present new evidence in this type of filing. You can't present just, hey, we could do it better than we did it last time. They don't do that.

It has to be, hey, there's new shit. So that basically they don't let him do that. They said the four butts were in her ashtray and Fields was the Fields was only in the house for a little while. They said, you know, if Horton smoked none of those butts and Fields didn't have enough time to smoke all four, then someone else must have been there also. But it could have been someone visiting her earlier in the day. True. Smoked a cigarette in there because back then old ladies didn't care if you smoke in their fucking house. So that's how it goes.

ladies they didn't care if you smoke in their fucking house so that's how it goes and also he argues the fact that the court described him as standing next to her body and he says that i wasn't next to the body i was at the foot of the bed so you know it's parson i was two feet that way so that means i couldn't kill them yeah yeah they said that it's it's really pretty ridiculous either way. It doesn't matter what the fuck he said when it comes to that. Also, the EMT, they said that the EMT testified that he asked Fields where the blood on his pants was coming from. And Fields said if he would kill some lady, you know, you would fucking, you'd have blood

on you too. You would cry too. And they said that Fields wasn't speaking in hypotheticals is what the prosecution's saying. And they're basically saying, yeah, he was. He's fine. He was speaking in hypotheticals. So you know how that works. None of them hypotheticals done work.

So they said the court can find no legal error. Denied. And he's still on death row. Is that right? He is on death row. Is that right? He is on death row right now. His DOC number is 032869. His prisoner ID is 60328. He's been in there on death row since 97.

I don't know if he did this. I don't know how physically we did the whole thing with, you know, OJ Simpson in the bonus episode saying he should have had more blood on him. This guy had no blood on him. Not a fucking drop of it. He should have had some, at least a drop.

Are you kidding me? All of it. Whoever did this opened an old woman's neck. Their skin is so, so thin. I understand. That would just spray out of there. It could be slightly dried up, but she's still got some in there.

It's going to come out. You know what I mean? It might come out like yogurt. This fucking poor woman, though. Jesus, 84 years old. She gets killed in her fucking, in her home. That's disgusting. Give that lady some fucking justice.

Yeah, I don't know if this is it, though. I'm not sure. I mean, hey, you come to your own conclusions. We'd love to hear about it, too. Honestly, follow us on social media. We're at small town murder on Instagram at was at small town pod on on Facebook. Follow us there and tell us what you think. Tell us if you think that this guy did it or not, because holy shit.

He deserves some tests to be done, right? I mean, he's got reason. I think they just wanted the fucking community to feel safe. Yeah. You have an 84-year-old woman murdered. You got to have somebody in jail for that. And you're definitely safer with him off the streets, because 17 days he's already entering an old woman's house to steal a bunch of shit so that's not great at all he is a menace but the death sentence seems a little harsh um if that's all he was doing just stealing some some

jewelry so i don't know man either way there he is he's still in there uh in the kentucky state penitentiary waiting awaiting his death sentence so there you go. Oh, my God. That is Kentucky and Grayson, Kentucky. Enjoy. Holy shit. Holy shit. And we have for you, if you like that, tell the world about it, by the way. Please do. Tell everybody.

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this is uh shut up and give me murder.com is where you're gonna get tickets to all these and we'll have more information on when they're on sale they're gonna be on sale really soon so get ready let's go through them february the 10th we are in Cleveland at the Agora there however you say that February the 11th we're in St. Louis at the pageant it's a nice theater way better than that shithole we played last time fuck that place those people were assholes

they closed then they closed for it March 23rd and 24th that's a Thursday and Friday we're going to be in Seattle at the Neptune both of those nights and then we are I, two shows in Portland the next night, Saturday at Revolution Hall. So two shows Saturday, March 25th. May the 5th, we're in Detroit at the Masonic there. May the 6th, we're in Pittsburgh back at the Carnegie Music Hall, which is a beautiful fucking venue.

We are Saturday, July 15th in San Diego at the Observatory again. Another nice venue. July 28th, we're in Salt Lake City at the Depot. Back in Salt Lake, hiding in the snow, except it's July. Saturday, July 29th, we are in Denver at the Newman Center. It's a little bigger venue there. Friday, August 11th in Minneapolis at the Pantages again. Saturday, August 12th august in

chicago beautiful we're gonna be at the auditorium theater this place is fancy it looks so cool let's stank it all up with dick jokes and murder stories what do you say everybody big venue so we can't wait chicago you have always come through for us and when they asked us do you want to you want to try for this bigger venue in Chicago? We said, you know what? Chicago has never fucking let us down. We're going to try that. Let's go grind it into the carpet fiber.

Absolutely. Atlanta, September the 8th at the Tabernacle. So that's a bigger venue. So a few more tickets available there. September the 9th, we are in Charlotte at the night. That is for the festival there. And Friday, October 6th, we are in Charlotte at the night that is for the festival there and Friday October 6th we're in Philly at the Fillmore October 7th

we're in Washington at the Howard Washington DC that is to other dates come in Boston New York and Phoenix and Milwaukee I will all be coming as well so those are coming up and there you go. That's the tour.

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