Small Town Murder - #422 - Dead In A Ditch - Claymont, Delaware

Episode Date: September 15, 2023

This week, in Claymont, Delaware, when a missing man is found, beaten to death, in a ditch, there are some clues, but the case quickly goes cold. Until a tip to detectives unravels a complex plan, involving baseball bats, an intricate scheme, and a man named "Nazi". It turns out to be an absolutely diabolical plot, in a way that no one could have imagined!Along the way, we find out that Delaware doesn't have much of a national identity, that Strat-O-Matic baseball can be a dangerous game, and that you should obviously never trust a man named "Nazi"!!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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We got a lot of show. I think it's time to you say sit back all and everyone and all and sit back and clear the lungs let's all reach toward the sky and let's all shout shut up let's do this jimmy all right let's go on a trip everybody let's go on we are getting in the small town murder mobile and we are heading to delaware oh yeah yeah which delaware tiny state yeah always very weird murders though you always forget about it it is but it's they're always weird here too

and then whenever we're here we're like goddamn delaware what the fuck is happening over here so this is in claymont delaware c-l-a-y clay mont very easy uh it's at the severe northeastern tip of delaware oh where kind of makes a right hand weird yeah turn toward the ocean it's at the tip panhandle of delaware it's the only way all kinds of beach all kinds beach. It's about 15 minutes outside of Wilmington, Delaware, and an hour to Dover, which was our last Delaware episode. So upstate from Dover here. This is in Newcastle County. And area code 302. Population of this town, 9,508.

So not a big place. Pretty small place. Median household income right around the national average, $58,904. Median home price, cheaper than the national average, $280,200. Yeah. You're living within a very short distance to water. Oh, God. Not bad.

Everything's right there. Not bad. Little history of this town. The first people to ever live here were the aboriginal Indians of the Middle Woodland period. Yeah. Which is 1100 to 1600 BC. Because it supports life. There's water and shit there.

Incredible. 3,000 to 3,500 years ago. Yeah, that's a place that would get picked up first, definitely. They found evidence of these people found all over the place here still to this day. The Dutch Creek, the Dutch named the Creek, the Namas Creek, N-A-A-M-A-N-S Creek, and the settlement after the chief of the Lenape Indians who occupied the region. OK, that's nice. The settlement grew a lot from the 17th to the 20th century, as most things in America did. Sure did. They had grist mills and farms and all sorts of shit, lumber mills, steel mills, a chemical plant later on. You know you've made it when you can go outside, take a deep whiff, and smell chemicals.

Yeah, smell that ammonia. It's right there. When your nose hairs are all burned off, you know you're living in a good place. This place was originally called grubbs landing and then it became this because after a guy named john grubb yeah who purchased this uh there's since the 90s there's been a lot of major revitalization efforts around here the claymont stone school the darley house the robinson house we're trying to make it historic rather than just run down there's a fine line between run down and historic, and they're trying to hop to the other side of that line.

There's a vast difference also between vintage and fucking dilapidated. Vintage and old shit. So the Claymont Renaissance Development Corporation is working to stimulate economic growth. Good for them. Reviews of this town. Let's find out what people think. Five stars. Perfect.

It's great. Very clean area. Roads are good. Claymont is a safe place to find a home apartments. To find a home apartments is what they said. A home apartments. A home apartments. It's very calm and the cops here don't joke around. They are about their business.

As opposed to everywhere else you get pulled over, the guy comes in like a clown wig and a big red nose. He does a big honk on his horn. He's like, you crossed a double yellow line. It's going to give you a ticket for speeding unless you can joke dick this joke. You ready? They get a slide whistle. I caught you going 20 over the limit. He gets sprayed in the face with a daisy.

It's going to be great. Yeah. Now I can either give you this ticket or spray you with this... They don't joke around. Spray you with this silly string. One of the two. Night life is quite boring, but it only takes 20 minutes

to get to the center city area and party, because Wilmington is party central, as we know. Party town, yeah. Three stars. There is nothing exciting about living in Claymont.

It is very boring and quiet. There doesn't seem to be a lot of violence or police activity. Okay. That's good. They're not joking around. They're not fucking around here. They're about their business. Three stars.

Very quiet at times, but also filled with very stupid people doing stupid things. Okay. Sometimes it's quiet. Sometimes. Like our stories. Yeah. People do wild shit. People do dumb shit.

Like most of Delaware, one wrong turn and you go from nice, beautiful houses and good people to craziness. Okay. And finally, one star. Yeah, I don't like it at all. Let's find out. Finally, one star. Yeah, I don't like it at all. Let's find out.

The overall experience of living in this area is horrible, in my opinion, because the people that have recently moved into the area are delinquents, drug dealers, and people who live in halfway houses. I want to go here so bad. I got to see what they're talking about. You know there's one halfway house, and they have four people living in it. And they're like, it's all delinquents and drug. Four people moved in and they're all delinquents and drug dealers. I just feel like that's what it is, too. When I first moved to this area, there was a nice elementary school and a community center across the street. Apparently, the derelicts have just overrun the elementary school and the community center, burned them to the ground, and they just have giant crack smoking parties on top of the rubble. Ran the teachers out at midnight. Ran oh yeah we're talking about the cover night

pitchforks and torches and they strung them up they burn the whole science department at the stake they don't play that shit like what are you talking about uh things to do the darley festival the darley house is the one thing that was restored. Oh, yeah, it's a beautiful place. The Darley Beer, Wine, and Music Festival is happening. We're excited to announce that it's the fourth one this year. It's almost here. Promoting the Claymont Renaissance,

this festival brings together Delaware craft beers, fine wine, and other libations. We do this shit quarterly? We do this shit the fourth total oh okay he's the fourth time this year the fourth year okay it's the fourth year well how much do you love to drink you gotta do a quarterly they also have rolling revolution food trucks local artisans and music music music of course of course there's music. The music that I found is a band that claims to be there.

They claim to be playing this. It doesn't have them listed, but they say they're playing it. The Stone Shakers. Okay. Stone Shakers. Unique versions of classic and new covers and originals. Stone Shakers are a little old band from delaware with a fresh take on all things music with the self-titled release of their ep stone shakers they are turning heads

with their unique style and instrumentation you're saying they cover shit and do it with their own spin on it oh weird right never heard of that before you know like a bar band right five dollar pre-sale ten dollars day of event oh yeah don't you fuck up and forget to buy them before you show up also decorating the christmas weed not that we yeah they had some tree grown out of a crack in a sidewalk and people decorated at one time and then the city took it down and so they put another one out there and they kept taking it down so now it's a thing after eight trees got it down and so they put another one out there and they kept taking it down. So now it's a thing. After eight trees got taken down and put back up, the Christmas weed is a big thing.

They find a tree growing out of a sidewalk and decorate it. Yeah, they just decorate it. It's literally in like a median of a highway and shit like that. That's where these are. It's dangerous, yeah. Dangerous to do this. That's why they took it down because they didn't want people decorating trees in the middle people decorating trees in the middle of 80 mile an hour traffic goes on both sides of them but whatever they find it fun that said let's talk about some more fun let's talk about a murder

shall we let's get into this here this is weird wild stuff here. Let's talk about a guy, first of all. We're going to go back to 2013. Not too far. Okay, yeah. Ten years. We all know what 2013 looks like. Okay. Wayne Capelli we're going to talk about. C-A-P-P-E-L-L-I.

Paisan over here. Wayne Capelli. He's 43 years old, Wayne. He's got a 10-year-old daughter. Oh. Who lives with him, apparently, here. I'm not going to give her name out because why do that? No reason.

10-year-old daughter there. They rent a room in the first block of Fourth Avenue here in a community of Overlook Colony. It's the same house where a friend of his lives. That's how he found the room. A guy named David Hess lives there also. A woman owns the house and rents to them and she lives there also and seems to have

like border it's very like seems like old-fashioned like it seems like a boarding house kind of thing like a 30s arrangement like she lives there and she's like come on boys dinner's ready and they come downstairs like it's it's very strange in denver I stayed at a place that was similar to this that used to be apartments and now it's just like a small hotel. Crash pad? It's very – I loved it because it was like – Like an Airbnb? Ish. I don't – it was so – but each room had like a fucking real key.

It was the most bizarre. Oh, that's right. I loved it. It was awesome. But I wouldn't want to do that every goddamn day. No. No, no, no. No.

No, it's just a way. That was a weird one. Okay. Yeah. Back to the Marriott or wherever. Right. I'll get the one with the plastic key that I'll have to fuck up and have to go back to the front desk in the middle of the night next time. You'll fucking lose that when you're drunk after a show at one in the morning.

I lost your key. You've had it for 46 years. Yeah, that key that said do not duplicate. I don't know where it is. I think I gave it to somebody. I don't know. Something. I don't know what happened.

I'm going to go to sleep on this couch now. I'll be upstairs waiting for you. You won't be able to miss me because I'll be in front of the door. So before that, Capelli and his daughter had lived in another man, a friend of theirs' house, a guy named Paul DeSabatino. Oh.

So Paul's house here, they lived there before. Apparently, Paul kicked them out. Paul kicks Wayne and his daughter out, and Wayne goes and gets a room at another place here, like we said. But he's still friends with paul though they're still like tight friends somehow i don't know how that happens get the fuck kicked him out take your kid and be homeless are you we still watching the game saturday well all right then like what the fuck is that don't you forget to bring them brats they're my favorite jesus christ Hope your kid finds a place to lay her head. Try to brought burgers next time.

They're delicious too. Christ. So Wayne has a job at the Super Fresh Supermarket is what it's called. He's stocking shelves. And he seems to work like a second shift situation. He seems to get off work around like 9 o'clock type of deal. So he would walk to and from the store. It's a little less than a mile away.

So he got some exercise in walking to and from. So he was started, you know, he's making okay money for the time and for the place. And, you know, he's just trying to get his progress of his life in a positive direction. And you could tell a guy who's going from place to place, he's got the kid in tow, and he's walking to his grocery store job, you can tell he's overcame a few things to get here. And so he's trying to make it all work. And things were going in the right direction for him. Everybody said he seemed happy, he liked his new job,

he liked where he lived, and everything was fine. Awesome. So like I said, he's got his friends, David Hess, who's a roommate of his now, and Paul DiSabatino, who's the guy who kicked him out of the house, former roommate, who he's still friends with. Okay, so everything seems fine for old Wayne, you know. Then February 15, 2013 comes around, and apparently he leaves work at the Super Fresh supermarket at 9 p.m. and he doesn't show up at home. Oh. Nobody just doesn't show up.

I guess his daughter is staying at a friend's house that night anyway, so she's not there. But the landlord, Arlene, is really like she's worried. She's an older woman and you can tell that she looks at her borders as kind of like her kids. woman and you can tell that she looks at her borders as kind of like her kids like it seems like a lady who's all of her kids like live in other states and she doesn't get to see her grandkids as much as she likes so she kind of takes in these these wounded birds from all around and you know tries to make a little house out of it because she calls that night what landlord would be like he didn't come home tonight i better call 9-1-1 well his kid's staying out somewhere else his kid's not perhaps he's getting some ass lady he's 43 years

old maybe he met a woman at the supermarket who liked the cut of his stealth shelf stocking jib and wanted to fucking say hey why don't you why don't you come home and help me stock my groceries i got a place you can stock your penis right it's on this shelf all that all once you store your meat in this locker yeah exactly i got a i got a meat section for you who knows what kind of grocery themed fucking shit was thrown back and forth and in 2013 that was a common misnomer i don't. Common idea of you can get laid at the grocery store mad easy. Yeah, which is, I don't see how that would work. I don't think that's true.

No one is wandering through the grocery store. Yeah. Everyone's just like they're on a mission, especially people who have lives and jobs. They're there and I've got to pick up three things and go. You think I want you to talk to me now? Leave me the fuck alone, weirdo. I've never been, I've never never i've worked at grocery stores i've spent a lot of time in grocery stores never gotten laid at the grocery store or because of the grocery no one ever said hey i'm a climb up behind the cocoa puffs and give it to me good

you never had anybody never once weird super strange yet everybody always says you can meet a nice everybody goes yeah everybody goes to the grocery store to not be annoyed they put their headphones on and they buy food they're looking to it's a that's not i'm not here to hang out if you're at a bar you're there to like hang out at a grocery store you're there to do a specific task get these things four items on your list and get the fuck out of this grocery store what do i got i got i got an artichoke i got asparagus i have not had my knob licked is that what i was stand there knocking on cantaloupes and see if eventually a nice uh you know good looking person

that you're looking for is going to come up to you and give you a tip on how to find the ripe ones and then you're going to be fucking like mad like animals in the car out in the parking lot but who knows you never know but apparently she arlene says hell no wayne doesn't do this he would never wayne is not getting laid i swear he got no game uh hello 9-1-1 wayne's got no game and he's missing you understand my tenant is missing maybe he's getting late he is fucking hideous never happening he's not hideous too though he's very normal good looking man yeah decent looking guy got all his hair and everything like that she doesn't believe he's got no game one time i saw him talk to a woman she she literally laughed in his face

it was sad he cried for about a week so i I don't think he's going to try it again. Have you ever seen a woman pull an eyeball because she rolled it so hard? That's what happened. She was laughing so hard her fake eyelash fell off. It just felt the tears. It couldn't take it anymore. Tears were coming out. Wore away the adhesive. She calls and said, quote, this guy, you know, Wayne, my tenant, he didn't come home from his shift.

And the cops are like, is he an adult? Like he's a 43-year-old man, isn't here, like so? Right. And she said, though, Arlene said, I know the streets are really dark, and he takes a shortcut. And what I'm really concerned is maybe he could have fell or something. He's 43, not 83. She's being very sweet, though. Very sweet but yeah we're both in that age group if you fall somewhere you're not gonna just

lay there all night right you're gonna figure out a way to get to some help you're crawl or just not just gonna lay there i fell like there's no way I can't get up. Right. But if I fall and bonk my head like the guy that did that fucking Atkins die. If I if if that then that's my fucking fate. Let it be supposed to be by by morning. Somebody will find the body and we move on. Listen, Arlene, we don't need all of this.

OK, now. And the cops just pretty much the 911, they pretty much just ignore it. Yeah. Because it's not. They should. He's a middle, like a 43, he's not a child. He's not like he's 75. He's lost and delirious or anything.

A 43-year-old man whose daughter was not home that night, maybe he went out drinking with the boys. He's an adult and he can do whatever he wants is what they basically said. So yeah, she said that it was too, she said though, it's weird because it was so cold out that night that she asked Wayne, she said, when,

let me pick you up later at nine o'clock. It's going to be freezing cause it's February. Yeah. So let me pick you up, pick you up from work at nine o'clock. That way you don't have to walk in the cold. And he said, no,

no, I don't want to make you go out in the cold. Then you've got to go warm up your car and get in. He goes, I'll walk. Who cares? I'm all warmed up from work and no problem. It's less than a mile. I'll be there.

Now, a couple days go by, though, and he never shows up. Oh. Doesn't show up. Now there's a concern, you know, because now he's got a kid and this is just unlike him. He's a pretty dependable guy. So it's very strange. And then on February 18th, 2013, I'm sorry, February 17th. I'm sorry.

There's a passerby walking his dog at about eight o'clock in the morning. Walking off the side of the road here off the sidewalk and about 15 feet off the road. He discovers a man's body lying by a tree. And Arlene's like, see, say he fail. He's trying to climb a tree. Fucking told you. He calls 911 and said the victim's in the fetal position laying by a tree and looks quite dead here. So the cops come.

head here so the cops come the man has blood all over his hands and has big gashes to the top and side of his head shit this looks like his his head's been just gashed apart the investigators around the area they think he's been hit by a car that's what they think they think it's a hit and run they think oh this makes somebody was speeding hit hit him. He's dark outside. He flew 15 feet off the side of the road. Nobody saw him. He's been laying here this whole time. Just bleeding to death. So they didn't know what to do. So they look and he still has his wallet on him.

So like, okay, he wasn't like robbed and thrown off to the side. That's another reason why they think it's a hit and run because he has his wallet. He's got his wallet, his driver's license identifying him as Wayne Capelli. so here's wayne um he still also has cash in his wallet too and everything so it's like weird for a guy to be you know discarded on the side of the road like this so they it was just off the 2100 block of Delavue Avenue in Silvercroft, which is Wilmington, but he lives in Claymont. It's a long story.

So police said, yeah, they think maybe he's the victim of a hit and run, but they found blood spatter on a utility pole around the scene. Oh. Blood spatter that wouldn't come from being hit by a car. It's a different kind of thing. And it's 2013. They've got DNA. They know whether or not that's's a different kind of thing. And it's 2013. They've got DNA. They know whether or not that's his blood. Absolutely, yeah.

And it's fresh. It's got to be his blood. The trail kind of goes that way. So they see that. So they're like, okay, that doesn't go with a hit and run. And also the lack of defensive wounds on him because he just has blood on his hands but not bruises or anything like that. so they think he's probably hit from behind um gotta be hit from behind but they said

but there's no but there's cash in his wallet this isn't a robbery what's the point yeah he has no enemies he's just a single guy who works at a grocery store and hangs out with his daughter like there's no he doesn't have like some big thing going on he's not in deep to gamblers he's not there's no none of that shit some eyes wide shut shit on. He's not in deep to gamblers. He's not. There's none of that shit. Just some eyes wide shut shit anywhere. Yeah. He's not like fucking the police chief's wife or something. So they had him beaten and thrown on the side of the road.

So they canvass the area. They spread out. They go, okay, this whole thing looks like a crime scene. Just block off this whole corner. And a short distance away, more like almost a quarter mile away, but still in this area, they find something. They find a cracked 34-inch white aluminum Louisville Slugger model TPSCVL softball bat. Aluminum? Aluminum.

34-inch, 30-ounce aluminum bat. And it's cracked. Big soft aluminum bat. And it's cracked. Big softball bat. And it's cracked. Wow. And it has blood all over it. Or reddish-brown, what looks to be blood on it is what they say. It has white and blue markings, the bat.

So they searched this area, and this bat they find kind of ditched in a creek about a quarter mile from where the body was found. So someone went over in the creek and tossed it there. in a creek about a quarter mile from where the body was found so someone went over in the creek and tossed it there yeah they said the bat was cracked has dents all over it and a reddish substance consistent with blood uh determined through dna to match wayne okay so there's your murder weapon uh the bat the head he's just had his head completely bashed in i mean cause of several times several times oh yeah cause of death is- Several times. Several times. Oh, yeah. Cause of death is blunt force trauma. Jeez. Not surprisingly.

So this is, now they have no idea where to go because they're saying, the investigators are saying, hitting someone with a bat like this. If someone wanted to rob him, they'd hit him until they could rob him and then walk away. Right, right. So it doesn't, if someone wanted to kill him, they'd have to be very, very pissed off at him to do this. Right. This is very personal. Someone beat his brains in and walked away. It's as close as it gets.

It's highly personal. And they started it over here, dragged him off to the side of the road, the whole deal. Oh, really? They dragged him off in a ditch. That's where he was. So that's why there was spatter out over on the utility pole by the road. that's where he was. So that's why there was spatter out over on the utility pole by the road.

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They release a picture of the baseball bat. If anybody recognizes this baseball bat as, you know, haven't been stolen or, you know, your friend borrowed it or something, let us know. They release a surveillance video as well of two cars driving on Delavue Avenue between Marsh and Veal Roads around the time of the murders. The police are hoping someone can identify the bat, the car, the driver or past something. Just any information. That's the other benefit. It's crazy now to even think about getting away with anything. Everything's on camera.

There's so many cameras. And even if they're not like traffic light cameras or like a supermarket outside business camera, everybody's house has a camera on the door. It's on your neighbor's house. Yeah. Look at Chris Watts. Chris Watts. They're going gonna get you they knew that whole thing turned when that when you're watching the chris watts thing and he's in his neighbor's house and they're watching that video right it

all changed from that video everything changed it went from oh he's fucking lying this is bad immediately from oh this poor guy's wife and kids are missing like that shit was there's it's everywhere. He's just pacing everywhere going, oh, fuck. I didn't even think about how many cameras there are. They are everywhere. And your friends don't just have, your neighbors don't just have the doorbell. There are cameras all over their fucking house.

On their houses. Aiming everywhere. Yeah. If you drive down your road, there's going to be two, three houses on your street that has cameras pointed out at the street. They are passing by. Granted, it's safe, but some of those people are just paranoid and they get there's that. You don't even see how many cameras they've got.

You have no cameras. That's how many cameras are hiding in shingles and shit. Seriously, too. I've seen it. Yeah. Fucking crazy. So they said that detectives are also asking for individuals throughout Newcastle, Newcastle County, who, while out walking, may have been approached by any suspicious persons and or vehicles and as a result were threatened or assaulted. Was this maybe someone going around fucking with people at night? And Wayne said, fuck you. I'm not, you know, whatever.

I'm not playing this shit. And the guy got pissed off and beat him extra hard. Is there other people hit with a bat that night? Guy got pissed off and beat him extra hard. Is there other people hit with a bat that night? Then the bat, they determined the murder weapon, the bat, may have been stolen from an individual in the York or Harrisburg, Pennsylvania area. Someone came forward and said that there's a bat missing and all that sort of shit. So, yeah. So they talk about the 911 call and they go back to where Wayne lived and they're like, OK, that's where the call came from. Let's talk there.

So they search for clues at Arlene's house, Capelli's home, where they found that just months earlier amongst his effects, they find a life insurance policy that he just took out a few months earlier, like two months earlier. policy that he just took out a few months earlier, like two months earlier. So the value of the policy is the shocking part. A little life insurance is fine for his daughter because he's got a daughter there or whatever, but he's a 43-year-old supermarket shelf stocker who has a $360,000 life insurance policy. What the fuck? Which is more than someone who has little money like that would usually have to be insured for. You probably shouldn't have six times your fucking salary. Yeah, the detective said it was a huge sum for someone just getting on his feet.

Right. That makes sense. Probably eight times. Yeah, for what he's making. Yeah, he's probably, Jesus, in 2013 he's probably making $12 an hour stocking shelves. Even if it's a union job, he's making $18 an hour back then stocking shelves. Some of the grocery stores are union, but still. It's probably eight times his fucking salary.

That's so much. It's insane. So 10 times maybe if he makes $36,000. Yeah, 10 times. Wow. So the weird part was not only was it a $360,000 policy, it seemed a little high. The weirder part, though though is the beneficiary they expect oh it's going to be his daughter obviously yeah but it's not oh it's paul de sabatino

de eviction auto de eviction auto over here why is that son of a bitch that why would he he this is a guy he met through his friend david hess who works there who lives with him i mean at the house so how weird is that shit bizarre so that's the guy who just tossed him yeah police definitely want to talk to paul about this they're like what the fuck so he gets in there and he says i didn't fucking know i was the insurance beneficiary for his shit he goes that's i have no idea that's crazy why would he put me he said that i also i have an alibi he said they said well where were you he goes i was in pittsburgh at a at a hotel with hess the roommate too we were together in pittsburgh at i believe uh like a uh

a homewood suites or one of those places at a tournament for the whole weekend playing stratomatic baseball what is that okay we'll get into that and they were with another guy named michael k man or command k-m-a-n command k-m-a-n that's k that's his name k-man that's what i've been calling him while i'm doing this k-manMan. Yo, K-Man. Well, so a man dies in a way that uses a baseball bat, and these are – Stratomatic has nothing to do with baseball equipment. There's no baseball? You could play this from – if you were a paraplegic, you could play this game. Oh.

It is Stratomatic Baseball. It's an old-school game. It's pretty cool. If you're a this game oh it is stratomatic baseball is an old school game it's pretty cool if you're a stat nerd it's cool i'm a stat nerd so i think it's pretty neat i've never played it except for now as a kid i saw people had it but it seems pretty cool each player is represented by a card on which are printed various ratings and result tables for dice rolls so you roll and it'll say you know fucking, fucking Mike Trout hit a double. You know what I mean? And then he goes to second.

And then you play games like that. Right. Well, apparently there are big groups of 40- and 50-year-old men still to this day who go to hotels for a whole weekend, kind of like you'd see like in Gangster, like in The Sopranos. They do like the whole weekend long poker game at the hotel for all this big money these guys do this but with stratomatic baseball bullshit baseball the whole weekend i picture like guys coming in with sandwiches and everything like that it's crazy all wearing too high of shorts and too tall of socks at the same time every one of them yeah they said the determining the results of

in-game decisions by cross-referencing dice rolls with a system of printed charts and tables fascinating so they said that stratomatic games offer a basic advanced and super advanced version the more advanced versions give more strategic options to players while taking into account additional nuances of an athlete's ability. As if fantasy nerds weren't fucking nerdy enough. Oh, this is incredible. They think fantasy nerds are pussies, these guys. You fucking posers.

Your fucking app fixes all that for you. We're rolling dice. This is crazy. When they release every year, they release a new batch of Stratomatic cards for an update, like a video game has updated people. Yeah, because their stats change. Yeah, you got to up your Madden fucking overall here. Fascinating. When they're released in late January, hundreds of people show up in the cold at their company headquarters in, I believe, Pennsylvania to fucking get them and celebrate it. Wow.

Yeah. One in 2008. A guy. What is this? Oh my God. 2008. David Allen Teak filibustered outside of the Glen Head headquarters for 42 hours over Alex Rodriguez's card rankings being inflated due to steroid use. He was pissed about it? being inflated due to steroid use.

He was pissed about it? 42 hours he stood outside and ranted and raved about Alex Rodriguez's player card being too fucking... Fucking eight and home run? Come on! Bullshit! Horseshit! Only because he's on the roids. There's also an internet version of Stratomatic, and this was formerly hosted by the Sporting News, but is now hosted by the Stratomatic Company itself.

So you're a baseball stat nerd. They also have football, hockey. They have all the Stratomatics. So back to a murder. That's the weirdest sidebar of all time for our show. To explain a card game based on baseball. So the cops now start looking at surveillance footage from the hotel where the tournament was held. There were several men there.

This is, you know how far away this is to Pittsburgh? York? That's so far. Well, York is by Philly. Okay. Like in the southeastern corner, like by Delaware. They're going to the other side. They live in Delaware, these guys, and they went all the way to Pittsburgh. We know that's like an eight-hour drive.

It's all day. It's all fucking day. They took the train there to sit in a hotel. Oh, God, it's even further. Yes. So they show up, and they look at the surveillance footage, and they say that Paul DiStabatino and K-Man show up periodically. So they come in and out of it, so they couldn't have been eight hours away. Michael John K-Man Jr., by the way, is Cayman here.

He's born in 1965. So he's almost 50 at this point. But the cops, when they were looking at it, at the camera footage, they said that they appeared so often, always popping in, and always made sure to make eye contact with the camera. They didn't just walk in and go about their business they walked in really spiked the lens hard looked right at it really like so you could really identify look who i am i'm on camera not murdering a man and then went back to what they were doing that is a fascinating thing because i stay in hotels a lot i've never even noticed where the cameras are i know there's cameras

and i don't look for them because you're not trying to establish an alibi probably that's why it's a good point it's a difference so now hess has his own alibi he said he was eating at a fast food restaurant during that window of time where where wayne was killed and his story checks out via security video he said they're eating a hamburger. What are you going to do? So shit, they didn't know what to do. Um, the only thing they could do, they said,

well, I guess let's check to see if maybe somebody followed him from work. Let's check the surveillance video from the grocery store. So they do that and it shows that he left work alone and there's nobody following him. There's no like miss, you know, nefarious shadowy figure behind him or anything.

But outside the store in the parking lot, they said a green car was caught on camera circling slowly. The one cop described it almost shark like just doing circles around the parking lot. So this suspicious car also showed up in security footage from different places around the crime scene as well they saw it there now it's also very close to there so but they saw it a couple of times so they're like that's not right yeah that guy is driving around a lot the license plate wasn't visible but there's a large sticker in a back window that they think will help identify this car and uh they they would have got away with it if only he wasn't a huge deftones fan just would have got away with it all if it weren't for that if it weren't that for that rest in peace

yeah on the back of his window for a friend of his that died that died eight years ago oh so they want to find this vehicle they say that's the key now the other guys they can't they're saying that we were at a tournament. They're at a tournament. Security video and footage. Footage and video. Those two words that are separate words. Those, you know, verify that. So they're looking for that. They start looking at insurance and phone records.

So they subpoenaed documents and phone records linking the creation of the life insurance policy, which couldn't pay out while the investigation's underway. They have phone recordings from the insurance company because for customer service purposes, they record all their calls. So phone recordings revealed that a third party who identified himself as Capelli's cousin Tony, which that all checks out. If his name's Capelli, he's got a cousin tony because i have several so guarantee he's got one or two uh was also on the call so capelli had his cousin tony in there hey tone he could be heard tony guiding capelli and helping him change the

beneficiary from his daughter to paul de sabatino how about? So who the hell was this Tony guy? And why did Paul act like he didn't know? He wasn't there, I guess. So they're like, what's going on with that? Who's this Tony guy? They listen. They go, this guy's voice sounds really familiar. And the one cop goes, it's fucking K-Man.

That's K-Man's voice. They recognize the voice as K-Man. Tony K-Man? But K-man's got an alibi yeah so they're like fuck what do we do he's nowhere near the crime scene he's hours away from the crime scene right so they're like shit they go well maybe they hired a hitman and they're like but there's no evidence it doesn't well this none of this makes sense none of it makes sense it just doesn't make sense. So the weeks turn into months. What?

And months go by. All they have is, we think you were involved. And they go, well, we weren't there. We were over here. And they go, well, yeah, you were. And that's the end of the conversation. There's really nothing more they can say. They don't have any evidence.

Right. And we get a guy that sounds like him and gets it. Sort of, yeah. And they can go, well, it wasn't me. I don't know.'re you're mistaken i mean yeah what are you supposed to do there's that's the only evidence you have so months go by months finally 2014 so plenty of months a call to the fbi comes in okay um a guy named kevin shannon who's a retired fbi agent now he was active at the time, is contacted by Paul DeSabatino.

Oh, what? Paul? Who's got a story to tell. Yeah. He said, listen, I got to tell you something. Wayne Capelli that died, I know what happened to him. Oh. He said, K-Man came up with a scheme to kill Wayne and get his life insurance, and we'd all split it.

Okay. up with a scheme to kill Wayne and get his life insurance and we'd all split it okay so DeSabatino and Hess both owed K-Man money I don't know if this is stratomatic bets or what I get I'm I am leaning I'm 80% sure that they owe him money for baseball fucking stratomatic games that they lost to him or some shit like that because nobody here is real into drugs or any reason to be in debt to anybody. They're stratomatic dorks. That's what I'm saying. So I feel like they were betting on stratomatic games and they owe him.

So Di Sabatino said they were kind of like under his thumb at that point because they owed him money. So they said that K-Man had a knack for preying on people's vulnerabilities and using fear tactics to keep them under control. He's a big fat guy too, K-Man had a knack for preying on people's vulnerabilities and using fear tactics to keep them under control. He's a big fat guy, too, K-Man. He's like a big hefty guy.

Yeah. So the murder plot involved. This is how long this was going on with. They moved Hess into the same house as Wayne as a part of this plot. That was part of the reason it was going on for months. They moved. Yeah. They told Hess move into the same place with him to get it started so you can

get in with him and do all that. That's so they had him do that, which is months in advance in advance. And this was, you know, a little while after they had the insurance change and everything like that. They said, uh,

move in there so you could become familiar with the route that he walks to and from work on. Oh, my God. That's what they had him do. So he surveilled him for a month or two. Stalked him. Stalked him and surveilled him. Yeah. And that is fucking insane.

And then K-Man, Pess, and DiSabatino talk Capelli into getting a life insurance policy. How they did that, I don't know. Wayne seems pliable to me. Seems like a – look, I got two kids. If somebody said you need to have life insurance, I'd be like, why? And if they mentioned my children, I'll buy it tomorrow. Yeah, you're probably right. I probably should have that.

Let's do it. You're going to have a flood of fucking spam now from hundreds of thousands of people. A few of them have to be insurance agents, and they're going to be like, Jimmy, heard you're looking for – he has life insurance. He's fine. I need term life. Let's talk. He's good. That at different times in 2012, Hess and Cayman spoke to the insurance company identifying themselves as Capelli's cousin, Tony, and also as Wayne's brother-in-law, Vinny.

So Vinny and Tony are calling. Yeah. As Vinny, Cayman said he wanted to have a guardian set up as the beneficiary of Capelli's daughter. That's how they sold it to him. They go go you need to have an insurance policy for your daughter obviously your daughter's a small child she's 10 at this point so she's not you're gonna have to have somebody who's a trustee of that sure so why don't you have it put in paul's name and if anything happens to you paul will use that money to take care of your daughter yeah that's what they said um and he said okay that sounds good and then they had hess move into the house figure out which route he made he

took to work and all this type of shit this is fucking crazy and this is dastardly it is and cayman threatened hess to help convince him to do this by the way frightening. Frightening. Who did the fucking killing, though? None of these people were there. None of these people were here. Well, Paul and Paul DiSabatino and Hess knew the guy, could pick him out of a lineup, but didn't

know his name. Only known knows him by his nickname, which is Motherfucker Jones. Nazi. His nickname by his nickname which is motherfucker jones nazi his nickname is nazi oh my god he's such a nazi that when people go what's he like he's a nazi it's the first thing you say about him there's a lot of people who are whatever and you know they maybe they're racist or they're this or they're that or whatever that's not the first thing you bring up.

You're like, I don't know. He's like a welder and he does that. He's all right. He gets a little drunk on the weekends. I don't know. He says some weird jokes sometimes. And he's this guy. NAZI?

Nazi. Fucking Nazi. NAZI. Nazi. Not only is that his nickname, that's the only thing they know him as, is Nazi. Really? You're looking for a man named Nazi. Police, good luck. So as is Nazi. Really? You're looking for a man named Nazi. Police, good luck.

So this is crazy. De Sabatino tells police that K-Man arranged for both of them to be in Pittsburgh at the time of the killings, doing the stratomatic thing here. De Sabatino told police that K-Man received a phone call around 10 p.m. on February 16th and that K-Man told De DeSabatino it's done. Through phone records, they were able to show that the call came from a phone owned by Nazi. And we'll find out who Nazi is in a second here. So, wow.

After this, then phone records leave it lead investigators to Nazi. Nazi is a landscaper for cayman he does his landscaping he got the guy that cuts his lawn he said hey will you put that weed whacker down for a minute come here nazi um i just want to discuss something with you nazi um how do you feel about killing a man he's like i'll weed whack the fuck out of him i don't care what the what what the fuck is happening so nazi the lawn care specialist here nazi lawn care nazi's lawn nazi's lawn care if you want oh god good lord if you want your lines straight and your shit in line if you want your grass train to run on time nazi lawn care so wow uh the green car in the video is registered to nazi's girlfriend as well

oh she's got a green car with a big thing on the back so this is coming together here with a giant fucking iron cross on the back window or some shit yeah and the person in pennsylvania with the baseball bat said nazi was And the person in Pennsylvania with the baseball bat said Nazi was the guy who might have taken their baseball bat. Oh, really? They thought that might have been just an unrelated baseball bat that some guy in Pennsylvania took, but they find out, oh, this is. So they bring Hess in here to have him questioned by the cops,

and he says, K-Man threatened to hurt me if I didn't help with the plot. Threatened me. He said also that he was aware that k-man planned to have wayne killed and that k-man would receive a majority of the money once di sabatino was paid out oh how much money do you how much are you into him for for right stratomatic i mean what fucking how bad of a team did you have jesus christ so has said he was forced to go with k-Man and Nazi. Get in the car with Nazi. OK, we're going we're going for a ride. We're going for a ride with Nazi. Everybody get the

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Nazi told us to get on the train. Let's go. Let's go. I guess we're going. We're going to Pittsburgh. He forces Hess into a vehicle and it is to go with K-Man and Nazi on a ride to show them the route that he has now investigated and established that Wayne takes to the store. This is all going in line here. So Hess said while on that ride in this area where Capelli's body ended up being found later, Cayman asked Nazi, what do you think? And Nazi said, yeah, this looks like it would work a lot better than before. Because apparently Hess said that an earlier option had been to kill capelli in an alley on his way home okay but it's easier to do it out here for some reason i guess i

don't know why i guess there's maybe windows nearby or yeah if you're in an alley that means there's buildings right where there's buildings there's windows where there's windows there's witnesses if he's walking too you can park your car elsewhere yes and then hide in the bushes or something so yeah the alley is and plus then you're trapped in this alley and you only have one way in one or two ways in and two ways out you can't scatter in any other direction it's not a good move here so he uh that's what he said so k-man has some other charges let's just talk about oh quickly before we get into nazi because k-man somehow is the biggest scumbag in the story. Really?

Oh, yeah. In 1994, K-Man was fined. This is obviously 20 years earlier, but he was fined $500 after pleading guilty to child endangerment in court. Police said K-Man placed a pot of scalding water next to his year-old stepdaughter who suffered first-degree burns when she struck her hand in the water idiot idiot he said the accident happened on that day was based on a foolish act by myself and i'm sorry for that is what he told the judge that day who would put boiling water near a child why is your kid near the fucking stove jackass now the new charges though oh man um okay well one of his family members told investigators k-man

tried to intimidate her by telling her that he had a man murdered for insurance money number one oh that's not good but that's nothing you think he's scum yeah check it out well he was also arrested in cumberland county at this time on unrelated sexual offense charges. The indictment charges that in June 2008, Cayman transported a minor from Cumberland County to Kentucky, where I'm sure you can have sex with any age person, to engage in sex acts. Oh, gross. It also accuses him of persuading a minor to engage in sex acts

that he filmed during the same period. Of course he did, because he wants to relive it. What a pig. In 2014, he's charged by East Pennsboro Township Police with felony counts of rape, involuntary deviant sexual behavior, or intercourse, I'm sorry, aggravated indecent assault, sexual assault, and unlawful contact with a minor. But he's so good at this baseball. Terrible things that you never want said after your name.

What a monster. Yeah, he's real good at Stratomatic, though. Jesus. He's going to run the prison Stratomatic fucking team here. He was additionally charged with misdemeanor counts of indecent assault and corruption of minors, and he's sent to jail on $1 million bail. That's not – you think he's – okay, that's scummy. And we'll talk about a little more detail there.

But at the same time, four years earlier, they found out he was coaching for the Catholic youth organization CYO Basketball, which anybody on the East Coast, if you play basketball as a kid, that's what you played, CYO ball. ball CYO basketball program at Our Lady of Lords Parish in Enola Pennsylvania when the state police accused him in 2010 of offering referees up to $2,500 to fix the outcome of fucking high school basketball games he's betting on the high school basketball not even high school it's fucking it's it's um it's children's it's just children's league it's's baby league. It's not even school league. Yeah, I played this when I was nine. What a piece of shit. Wow. The police said K-Man sent the referees numerous text messages requesting they officiate certain basketball games and favor a specific team.

The Catholic Diocese of Harrisburg suspended him from coaching and released a statement in light of the charges filed the diocese of Harrisburg is suspending the youth protection clearances that allow K-man to be involved with youth and youth serving activities in any parish school or diocese pending the resolution of the investigation because they knew about his bullshit with the kid in the water and they still hired him anyway what a fucking weirdo so this new charge they just add now is a child pornography charge to the list of felony sex crimes that he has. Wow. The police said in filings that the new charge relates to a memory card containing video of K-Man engaging in sex acts with a 17-year-old girl that was found during a search of his home. The search came after the girl, K-Man is accused of molesting, told authorities about the abuse. A search came after the girl, Cayman is accused of molesting, told authorities about the abuse.

The accuser, because you go 17, there are people that'll go, I mean, two months from now it's legal. Well, this had been going on for eight years. Ah, she was nine. Yes. So the accuser said he had sexually assaulted her for eight years. Another one said starting when she was 15, he was sexually assaulting her, so somebody else. She also claimed K-Man had threatened to kill her if she denied his request for sex.

Ew. That's not a request anymore at that point. So when he was arrested, they found the memory card containing the videos of all this type of shit. So the church knew about him. They knew about his 1994 conviction for child endangerment, but he was still allowed to coach. They found he posed no imminent threat of abuse to the youth that he would be

coaching. Wow. Wow. As long as none of them are attractive to him. Um, the plea for sex charges here is that, uh, he is a result of inducing,

persuading and coercing. Oh, God, it's his daughter. What? It's his daughter. It's his own daughter? The 17-year-old that he was filming was his daughter. Disgusting. Somehow I missed that one.

It's his daughter. That is, I don't even know how to fucking put that into. And he took her to Kentucky to do this? And he filmed her. He filmed, let me, that's, I don't even know what, I can't even. Don't say that. I'm just, no, that's why I'm not even gonna,

I'm just gonna fucking, I don't know. My brain is spinning like a fucking. Now it makes sense why he knows a man named Nazi. Yeah, hey, Nazi. So the maximum penalty is 30 years under this here, a term of supervised release following that also faces mandatory minimum of 15 years. So how does this relate to Capelli?

You might ask. Well, they question the alleged victim in the case about any acquaintances. Cayman might have fitting the description of the man known as Nazi. And she said, oh, I know Nazi. That's Ryan Shover. I know him. Absolutely. That's that guy.

Ryan W. Shover or Shover. S.H.O. V.E.R. Absolutely. That's that guy. Ryan W. Shover or Shover, S-H-O-V-E-R 44. Yeah, he's currently living at the Red Carpet Inn on Lewisberry Road in Fairview Township. $30,000 for the murder, apparently. That's what K-Man will end up admitting to. Yeah, they made a deal to testify for the prosecution, though. De Sabatino and Hess made a deal here. K-Man was arrested for first-degree murder, which is a life sentence, but he eventually agrees to testify against Shover in exchange for less than life. So they raid where Shover's living,vel and uh over the the red carpet in the red not even the red roof end it's just carpet we don't even have a roof holy i've never even

heard of that before we've driven all through i've never even heard of pull off to this 44.99 a night dump wow when they get to his house they find the 1999 green chevy cavalier with the sticker on the back the same shit sitting there belongs to his girlfriend or at this point his wife because this is like two years later wow the presiding federal judge who initially ordered shover detained by the federal gun charges because we'll find out he's got a gun. He had guns in his house. Oh, boy. They said he has an extensive prior criminal record marked by multiple instances of flight, failure to appear, and failure to abide by conditions. Of course. It's weird that a guy named Nazi would be, you know, difficult.

Probably a fucking menace to society. Imagine him to be very civic-minded and easy to deal with. But no, he's not. Wow. So Hess, like I said, he's arrested, gives up everybody. And Di Sabatino, they both agree to work with investigators. And they both agree to plead guilty to criminally negligent homicide, insurance fraud, and first-degree conspiracy. Wow.

Now, Cayman also pleads to get himself out of the life in prison so k-man pussy yeah k-man de sabatino and hess all go in for their sentencing here yeah um now by the way they had they were gonna have uh k-man and shover tried at the same time and that's why k-man was, I don't want to be fucking hooked up with a guy named Nazi on the same shit. Oh, my God. Yeah. No good. So they said during this, they said, without Michael Cayman beginning this conspiracy, enlisting the cast of characters, Wayne Capelli would still be alive today.

Prosecutors suggested a sentence of 30 years for Cayman. suggested a sentence of 30 years for Cayman. Cayman's attorney said with his participation with prosecutors, with his dysfunctional upbringing in similar cases, warranted a sentence closer to about half of that, maybe 15 years. He's also facing 12 years in jail for what the judge described as a violent sexual assault in Pennsylvania, as well as a 15-year federal court sentence after pleading guilty to production of child pornography

in 2015 fucking I hate this guy I want him and K-Man I want to put like a I want to put like a peanut butter sandwich on the floor and say to the death motherfuckers go at it and then whoever wins let him eat the sandwich and then go in and shoot him in the fucking head

that's what I think out of these two idiots I swear to god they are both awful whoever wins gets shot in the fucking head. That's what I think of these two idiots. I swear to God. They are both awful. Whoever wins gets shot in the fucking head when they're done with their peanut butter sandwich. That's it. So this is obviously terrible. They also said that his federal and Pennsylvania time combined with a 30-year Delaware sentence would be akin to a life sentence, leaving him with nothing for his cooperation with prosecutors. Who gives a shit? Yeah, you're a scumbag.

He got $360,000 out of it. You fucked kids. I don't care about your life. Fuck you. So the victim impact statement here, Capelli's daughter is there, but Capelli's sister is the one who speaks on her behalf. But Capelli's sister is the one who speaks on her behalf. And she said, quote, she kept asking me why my dad.

After five years, I still don't have an answer for her. He didn't deserve to have his life taken away for something as petty as money. So they asked Cayman, would you like to address the court? And he goes, I'm good. Nothing. Right on. You, sir, may fuck off 30 years in prison. Eat dicks. Yeah, that's a good start.

Plus the other shit. Add it up. So fuck him. Hess is up next here, which is weird. The guy named Nazi isn't Hess, who was a Nazi. That's a Nazi name, yeah. That's crazy. Hess pleads guilty to criminally negligent homicide, insurance fraud, first degree conspiracy.

You, sir, may fuck off five years somehow. Really? He moved in with them to plot his route out. I mean, yes, he was threatened by a guy. He said they threatened me and it was coercive. But still, you could have moved away. Yeah, but with three testimonies against a man, it's much easier to get him. So they're being very lenient with the deal.

Five years. He didn't do anything. He just did everything. He just sort of set it all up. He was the glue that held it all together. The straw that stirs the drink is what he was. So De Sabatino's sentencing, they said, quote, this is the attorney general, we might not have had sentencing for Mr. Shover and Mr. Cayman if it were not for Mr. DeSabatino.

So even the state is pushing for him here. DeSabatino told the court that he is just very sorry. I'm sure. Yep. In crafting a sentence, the judge cited the, quote, high degree of sophistication and planning, as well as the multiple opportunities Di Sabatino and others had to withdraw from the scheme. He also noted that Di Sabatino had moved to arrange guardianship of Capelli's child before the victim was killed, which is also pretty goddamn gross. He said, you went so far as to hire a lawyer after his death to go to the court of chancery and seek the money. Unbelievable. Wow.

You, sir, may fuck off 10 years in jail, prison, whatever. 10 years. Should be more. Should be a little more than that. Now, Nazi here, when they raided his home, they found two shotguns in his home. And he's already a felon. He's already a convicted felon, obviously.

So, but according to his public defender, the shotguns belonged to other relatives who brought the weapons to his home so his son and his girlfriend's son could learn to shoot. I assume they're parents. So, the public defender said the search of his

home, which turned up the shotguns in the bedroom were a result of a wild goose chase for information regarding a murder in Delaware. Well it was actually very accurate because they had a murderer and they were searching his house for evidence. That's more than a wild goose case. A wild goose chase. So either way

there he's sentenced to time served and one year probation for the guns. That's what he gets. Nazi got that? Nazi got that. Wow. Okay. Now, because he was six and a half months waiting.

Now, his trial, they have everyone testifying against him. He's fucked. Surveillance footage. He's fucked. Guilty. He's guilty. He's guilty of two charges of first degree murder first degree conspiracy insurance fraud and two counts of possession of a deadly weapon during the commission of a felony he went to trial

he went to fucking trial the jury found him guilty his whole thing was they did it and they're all lying on me because they did it and they're you know it's a conspiracy so during the sentencing the prosecutor here asked the judge for the symbolic gesture of increasing the sentence for Shover's weapons charges. He said a baseball bat is usually employed opportunistically when wielded as a weapon. And they said, though, in this part, it wasn't like he just grabbed a bat that was in his trunk. Right. This was part of a stolen premeditated plot. He said, we know Shover had guns. He could have chosen any other means. He

chose to beat him to death with a baseball bat. Yes. So, they asked Nazi, do you have anything to say for yourself? Did he say no? Ask for mercy. Oh no, he had something to say. Not the right thing, though.

The right thing is, I'm a terrible person. It's horrible. I feel so sorry for the family. That poor little girl has to live her whole life. That's what you say. He said, quote, I didn't kill him, nor did I participate in the planning of his death. I can close my eyes with a clear conscience. Well, good night. The judge said it was an outrageous and despicable conspiracy to commit this murder.

You, sir, may fuck off two life sentences. Eat cocks. judge said it was an outrageous and despicable conspiracy to commit this murder you sir may fuck off two life sentences eat cocks go away i didn't do it go to jail for two lives close your eyes with a clear conscious there motherfucker enjoy for two lives lengths that's that's it that is fucking amazing so yeah the reaction, the attorney general said, we appreciate the hard work and cooperation of everyone involved in this case, knowing how difficult it is to bring justice to those responsible in cold cases. Yeah, that's true. They said this is another example of our detectives working relentlessly on cases, even one as complex as this, because this is a mess to piece this all together. Oh, God, it's so fucked. You've got to have multiple cooper together. Oh, God, it's so fucked.

You've got to have multiple cooperating agencies and different jurisdictions, too. They said, as I've said before, and let me be clear, if you commit a murder in Newcastle County, we will find you and ensure justice is served. Okay. Probably not. I'll find some cold cases and make you wrong. This one barely got happened, so calm down. Oh, shit. wrong so this one barely got happened so calm no shit so uh so k-man is uh pled guilty to second degree murder insurance fraud second degree conspiracy 30-year sentence k-man sentence will

not start however until he completes a 6 to 12 year sentence for involuntary deviant sexual intercourse in pennsylvania and an additional 15 year sentence for child porn so he's got he's got 21 to fucking 27 years before he can even start his 30 unbelievable he's fucked wayne's daughter ended up finally receiving the insurance policy oh that's nice so she got that at least and michael john cayman jr is a registered sex offender now here um there he is six foot one 295 big fat fuck with kids on his with kids on his breath i don't like it um this was also a mastermind of murder some tv show uh the episode was the devil in delaware i didn't watch it but they did a thing on it so the nazi in delaware the nazi in delaware so the delaware nazi So there you go, everybody. Delaware's fucked up.

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