Small Town Murder - #436 - The Unraveling Of A Psychopath - Windsor, Wisconsin

Episode Date: November 3, 2023

This week, in Windsor, Wisconsin, it's a huge mystery, when a happy, and successful couple seem to disappear into thin air. While their seemingly clean cut, well adjusted young adult children beg the police for help, detectives use a jealous girlfriend's access to her boyfriend's social media account to crack the case, unravel a life of lies, and literally give them a map, leading to the horribly dismembered bodies!Along the way, we find out that home fireplaces aren't great places to burn corpses, that not having a job at SpaceX isn't a reason for dismemberment, and that you know that you've messed up when even your grandmother wants you in prison, for the rest of your life!!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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it's time to sit back. Let's all clear the lungs. Shall we coordinate today? Why not? Let's all sit back let's all clear the lungs and shall we coordinate today why not let's give it a run and we'll all shout shut up and give me murder let's do this okay what do you say everybody let's say let's go on a trip shall we i'd love it all right let's go all the way to wisconsin this week we went to a nice place here in south central Wisconsin. Okay. It is about 25 minutes outside of Madison.

It's right there. It's right outside Madison, so near the college. What's it called? It is Windsor, Wisconsin. Windsor, Wisconsin. About an hour and 20 to Milwaukee that way. So Windsor, Wisconsin. Population 8,589. There's one in England, right? There's one in Ontario. I'm sure. There's a Windsor everywhere. There's a Windsor, Wisconsin, population 8,589.

There's one in England, right? There's one in Ontario. I'm sure. There's a Windsor everywhere. There's a Windsor right across from Detroit. It's right there. Yeah, right there. It's right there.

Median household income here is high. It is $104,179. Fuck. The Wisconsin's are figuring it out. Crack the six figures in this area. And it's around the capital. And this is like a suburb if you work in Madison and make a little dough, you live out here. Median home price here also, $391,100.

It's pretty good. It's costly, but it's a nice area. That's what I'm saying. It's nice. A little bit of history in this town. People visited this town in the late 1830s. James Madison, that guy? No. Yeah?ames no yeah no him yeah he was here way back then no no the first settler to this place was william lawrence he came from vermont he served

in the civil war and then uh and then another guy named james morrison settled in the town in 1843. Oh. And now that town is Morrisonville. He changed it. He's like, this area here? Me. Yeah. Named after me, cocksuckers. Started a band called The Doors. That's right.

He shortened his name to Jim, too. He's like, I don't think James Morrison is going to be cool. Jimmy Morrison, that doesn't sound right. That's a light and fires. Jim. I think Jim is the way to go. Yeah. Now let's go to the next whiskey bar and

we'll talk about what else we're gonna do keyboards you think in this fuck it right fuck it let's do keyboards nobody does that so uh windsor is a they call it it's a village and a former town what used to be a town now it's a village that's not how they work i don't know how that works but i don't know it's in dane county uh-huh here um madison is too well within in a village i guess there's other little towns in the village in the village like little communities yeah that's how they do it so there's lake windsor morrisonville and token creek where the one black guy in town lives him live yeah we don't call it segregation we call it gifting that's what it is creek he got us 40 acres yeah so well we didn't give him that many but so yeah that's crazy so they voted to incorporate as a village on november 3rd 2015 yeah that's that's when they finally did it

as a village just now rather than a town it was a town and a portion of the town was a census. This gets everything. So the cops will go everywhere like that. The fire department works for everybody. So it's in the Madison statistical area. They counted as part of that. A portion of the former town was a part of a disputed annexation by the village of de forest. Oh,

but this happened in 2004. So they just reached a settlement rather than like, you know, blowing up each other's stuff to get the county records or anything. Okay. Reviews of this place. There's no reviews of the town, but there are reviews of Dane County.

Dane County is a nice place. Let's see what they say. Five stars, best County in Wisconsin. Okay. The most welcoming and feel the most welcoming and feel the most welcoming and feel and feel absolutely safe more than any so they they capitalized absolutely so i'm like that i thought that was a new sentence now the whole letter or just the

whole word no just the a so more than any other county i grew up in the suburbs of milwaukee and suggest to all that they live in Dane if they can afford it. Oh, wow. If you can afford it. You cheap bastards in Milwaukee. Fuck. Five stars. Dane County houses Wisconsin's capital.

It's filled with parks and lakes. There's a lot to do outdoors. There's a great urban feel to Madison as well. It's true. It feels very farmy, but it's a fucking city. But then there's a city there, too. Yeah. It's the Midwest because Minneapolis feels like that, too.

It feels like a city, and then you get just outside of downtown, and you're like, oh, this is the... I'm in a bar, and we're doing a meat auction. This is wild. This is super weird. Yeah, Vern Gagne is going to train me to wrestle in a bar at any minute now. Three stars here. Yeah.

Things were never, and this is in quotes, bad, so not much to improve. Oh. So only three stars. All all we're all pretty good weird okay three stars with it being a college county in quotes there are things they do and don't do well it's a very diverse area filled with many college students and the capital of madison is set up as such with an abundance of bars, restaurants, and clubs, you know, like they have with college kids, businesses that they might frequent. Housing can get expensive quickly unless you know where to look if you're searching downtown Madison. It's mostly a safe place. Drunkards are fairly common.

Welcome to the Midwest, pal. Although harmless in most situations. That is the Midwest in a nutshell. Drunkards are common, but fairly harmless. Whereas in the East Coast cities, the drunkards might punch you for no reason. You betcha. The West Coast, or the center there,

the Midwest are like, just how you doing? You want a curd? Would you talk for me for a little bit? I got extra curds. I'm trying to give them to you. I got some walking cheese. It's all about UW-Madison, so prepare to be blasted in the face with Bucky the Badger,

which is not a sexual thing if you're not from the U.S. Bucky the Badger is their mascot, and he will apparently just jizz all over you. That and Packers. In the airport, there is a crowd that you can't walk through until there's a commercial break. Then everybody walks away to their gate. It's better than Bucky the Badger Bukkake, though, which happens on Saturdays. That's a different thing completely. You've got to bathe in it.

Bucky Bukkake is different. You've got to lather up with it. Oh, it's gross. Yeah, you shampoo your hair. Dane, things to do here. The Dane County Fair. Of course. Oh, it's gross. Yeah, you shampoo your hair. Dane things to do here. The Dane County Fair. Of course. Oh, yeah. Annual family-friendly event, obviously here. You go to the

Alliant Energy Center in Madison. Friends for near and far venture here. Is that the football stadium? Yeah, that's in Madison for free concerts. I think it's probably where they play basketball, the college or some entertainment, great food, animals, and adventure. The fair has a rich history dating back to 1851. Jesus Christ.

The history guides us as we strive to honor the past. 170 years of this fair. It doesn't say what they really have there, though. They said there's parades, festivals, community events. It's a fair. A fair? I mean, is there games? Is there bands?

Who's playing? Probably. Is Poison there? Tell me. Probably. What 80s bands are you having here? Next up, Windsor Fest here. Windsor Fest is very small because it's in just this town.

It is at Windsor Fireman's Park. Okay. It says basically, show up to the park and hang out and it's free admission because it's a park and you just walk in there is a band playing though oh the band is called playlist which tells me that they're a cover band they cover the shit and everything you're gonna hear smash mouth today everybody it's gonna happen you might hear some something from the weekend that could happen oh they'll mix it up's the thing. You didn't expect us to play that, did you? And coming up next, Mr. Brightside.

Didn't expect the medley of fucking, you know, Offspring with... Right into ACDC. Right into Lizzo. You didn't get it, did you? Boom. They were formerly, they changed their name to Playlist. They were formerly the Rabid Aardvarks. Good move. Yeah. Good move. they changed their name to playlist they were formerly the rabid aardvarks good move yeah good move that doesn't really say that you're going to play familiar music that 40 year olds want to

dance to rabid aardvarks tells me you're still trying yeah that's that's trying a little too hard that said yeah let's talk about someone who could have tried harder not to be a murderer let's talk about some murder here all right this is a very recent murder one of the more recent ones we've ever done when 2021 let's go back to that's too new it's fresh it's a fresh one and this this guy there's an asshole involved that uh time won't soften he's a jackass yeah let's talk about the halderson family. All right. Bart and Krista are the mom and dad here. Yeah. Parents.

Bart's 50. Krista's 53. Yeah. They do very well for themselves. They're, from all accounts, extremely nice people, helpful, kind, good parents. Yeah. They say they have everything anybody could want. They have a beautiful home in Windsor.

Yeah. They have two sons. Oh. Mitchell's 24, works in the tech industry chandler's 23 he's a college student who lives at home they have two kids named mitchell and chandler mitchell and chandler that's successful folks and they're both six yeah yeah you name your kids mitchell and chandler they're going to college i feel like yeah chandler uh wants to get a degree here and he uh he has an internship at an insurance company, and he has landed a job in the future here in a couple months at SpaceX, which he's really excited about in 2021.

Jacked about it. So he's jacked. Everybody couldn't be prouder. They're 50, 53. They've raised their kids. They're doing their own thing. They have a cabin that they go to on the weekends sometimes. Fuck.

Lake cabin? Fun, Chris, to live in a nice life. Their sons, they don't have to worry about them. Right. They got Mitchell and Chandler just figuring it out based on their name alone. No one's going to be living in our basement. No. Thank fuck for that.

This is great. Okay. Until one of them gets divorced. And that'll be temporary. They'll live here a little bit. They'll be here for a little while he's on the weekend he's gonna bring in too much stuff we're gonna have kids running around on the weekend but he'll get his own place pretty quickly i feel like then july 2nd 2021 comes around it's fourth of july weekend here uh coming up anyway and krista does not show up for work. Oh, that does not like Krista. Krista is very dependable.

Yeah. No calls, no shows. Yeah. So her coworker, who's also a friend of hers, a guy named Daniel Cronin, Croninger, he worried about her, tried to call her, text her. Yeah. In 2021, he could hit her up on 45 different forms of communication to see if she's around. The amount of times she could have grabbed a hold of her. Social media. Yeah.

But he never gets any response from her. No response. Nothing. So he decides to go over to their house to check on her because she's worried. He's like, she always responds to text message and stuff like that. Goes over to the house and he encounters their son, Chandler, the 23-year-old who lives at home, the SpaceX one here, who's told everyone about that. He lives at home. And this guy's like, where's your mom and dad?

I'm trying to get a hold of your mom. She didn't show up at work. And he said, oh, they went to the family cabin for the Fourth of July weekend. They've been gone. They left this morning, early. They didn't tell you? Yeah, I don't know. They should have told your boss.

He's like, well, yeah, she didn't come into work. He's like, I don't fucking know. I'm 23 yeah i don't know i should have told your boss he's like well yeah she didn't come into work he's like i don't fucking know i'm 23 i don't give a shit i'm sure i have the weak house to myself i'm trying to get some pussy here this weekend there's a college right there i'm trying to get some trim up in this joint this weekend you know what i'm saying for spacex that's gonna yeah it's gonna impress the literal pants off i'm gonna drop that shit on somebody till it impresses them i'll tell you you that much. So now the 4th of July weekend goes. And this guy says, oh, that makes sense. Maybe she forgot. It's unlike her.

But I mean, who knows with people? Who the hell knows what's going on? So they just shrug and whatever. So then the weekend goes by and they never come home. They don't return messages. They don't return messages. They don't return texts. They don't call into work. They don't do anything.

They're just no call, no show, everything. So now Daniel, the work guy, he gets a hold of Chandler again, and he goes, they still haven't shown up. If they haven't shown up, can you get a hold of them? He said, no, I've texted them too. They won't text me back nothing he says you gotta call the cops you gotta put a missing person report in they're not answering this something's wrong this is unlike your parents it's not like it's like a silver alert where they're 75 they might be

wandering somewhere in their bathrobe that's not what it is but it's something might happen to them they're in their 50s they got some medication they take not only that they could have been driving to the cabin and run off the road and hit a tree and be in a ditch and no one saw them they could be dead somewhere they could have hit a stray cow they could have hit a moose for christ's sake we have no fucking idea what happened up there so on wednesday july 7th chandler reports his parents missing okay so this is from july 2nd they haven't been around now the seventh so five days has gone by jesus so he reports them missing to the dane county sheriff's office and they said obviously when's the last time you saw your parents would be a helpful uh you know helpful

thing here and he said well they went to their family cabin um but they left with another couple oh they were picked up by another couple and driven to the cabin maybe they're part of the lifestyle having a that's what i mean maybe we don't know what they're doing pineapple everywhere i was just gonna say there's just a whole community of cabins with pineapples carved into the sides you know yeah they're like on the side like people put those fucking stars. Yeah. Big giant pineapples. Woodwork done. Yes. We're in this lifestyle forever. This woodwork, this fine craftsmanship means I'd like you to fuck my wife, please. And I'd like to watch.

Perhaps I'll fuck yours while you fuck hers. I'll be watching because I'll be fucking your wife. He, yeah, he says that I don't know this couple. Some couple I don't know. They got in the car. They drove off. Said they were going to the cabin for the weekend. I'm here.

I'm 23. I don't care what the fuck they do. I'm just happy to have the house to myself. You know any girls? Right. I'm wearing out these tube socks. Yeah, it's a mess in here. And I don't know how to do laundry either.

No more elastic. I'm going flip-flops for the rest of the weekend because i'm out of socks bro it's sandal time here for the rest of the gross rest of the weekend so the police they try to ask anybody who their friends nobody said they've heard from them nobody knows so they say they put out a plea to the public if anyone has any information been missing since july 1st is the last time they were seen that's when they took off been missing since july 1st is the last time they were seen that's when they took off the night of july 1st is what chandler said he said that they had planned a trip to langlade county for the weekend and the family had been unable to confirm

that they arrived safely and anybody along the way um and everything like that now their personal vehicles are accounted for oh so the sheriff's office said there's no known vehicle to associate the couple with. I have no idea. Because the son just said they got in some couple's car and took off. That's why their cars are still there. It's a car. It's got four wheels, four doors. It's got a car.

It's a sedan. American, maybe. I've heard that's a word. Is coupe a word still? Dodge, Ford, Chevy, I believe, a General Motors. They all look alike now, so I can't tell you what it was. It was a Pontiac. It was either a Hyundai or a BMW.

Or a Kia or a Geo. I'm not sure. Do they still make the Geo? A Kia Geo. It could have been a Saturn, possibly. Volkswagen Tiagenarian. What are those called? I have no idea. Volkswagen Teagenarian. What are those called? I have no idea.

Volkswagen Technogenarians. What are those cars? Who's that? Tiga Wiggalones. We don't know what it is. If you're going to rob a bank, that's the one you use because they can't pronounce it. It was a Volkswagen Tiga Wiggalone. It was a Tuga Google one. The thing. It was a Tuga-Google-Wan.

A thing. It was a Volkswagen Mog-Wan. I'm in the next county by then. I'm out of here. So Mitchell drives on July 8th. Mitchell, the other son, the oldest son, he drives to the family cabin, which is three hours north. Jesus. To search for them.

Maybe they're up there somewhere. The sheriff's deputies met him there, and together they searched the whole property. cabin which is three hours north jesus to search for them maybe they're up there somewhere the sheriff's deputies met him there and together they searched the whole property yeah which by the way is very odd procedure to have a family member searching and they don't know what if they find them or that'll ruin that what if the kid did something to them now you're letting him trounce around where evidence yeah it's up Yeah. It's just weird. Smearing blood and shit. But when they got there,

it became very clear to them that no one had been at that cabin in a long time. Yeah. There's dust on places that could only, only be the top of a doorknob is dusty on the inside. No one's left the fucking house. Obviously there's things that it's obvious that there's no one has been there you can tell when no one's water hasn't been turned on things like that no signs of bart or krista or any of their belongings that they don't keep there anyway so in a statement from the halderson family

distributed by the sheriff's office friday they thanked everyone for support sure we continue to ask for anyone's assistance who may have information on the whereabouts of Bart and Krista. We have strong hopes for the best possible outcome, which on this show is weak. If you're on this show immediately, it's futile. Yeah. So friends,

including longtime friends of the family, neighbors, um, Bart's brother, Brett, they described brother, Brett, brother,

Brett, Brett and his brother bart unbelievable wow bart's brother brett uh described krista as very doting um on the kids and on bart and bart as also too responsible to have gone on a trip without telling anyone yeah like krista would have told the kids where she was. This guy owns a cabin. He's telling folks. That's pretty cool. I'd be bragging to everybody.

I'll be at the cabin if you're looking for me this weekend. So I don't get great cell service up there. Every time I'd go there, I'd call somebody to tell them, hey, how's your day? Pretty good. Yeah, I'm going to my cabin. What are you doing? I don't know. You send me, like, an Instagram message.

It's going to take me probably two days to get back to you. Yeah, I'll be up at my cabin. So, you know, I hope you have a great weekend i'll be at my cabin that's how it works bart's a certified public accountant they're not known as a wild ben they're not like oh yeah they just disappear for fucking weeks at a time on bender's account and stuff not a lot of mres in their garage where they can just be grab a handful of them here we go he's got his he's got his go bag in his trunk it's a duffel bag full of party clothes and shit party clothes couple of bottles of booze some hard-on pills he's got it all he's just ready to go out there and fuck his way through

the night that's not bart bart's a calm dude who hangs out with his wife and does things you know a nice way very casual his brother and his friend said he would never have taken a large amount of cash with them to gamble because Chandler told the cops, I think they took a shitload of cash with them. I think his dad was going to gamble. At the cabin? I don't know if they're having a big

poker tournament up there or what. Running craps on the patio. Very strange. That's what everybody said though they because they said because they talked to channel and they talked to the friends and they're like you know would they have brought money with them to gamble what kind of gambling they did because that money is in debt to gamblers and everyone was like that doesn't sound like part he didn't gamble he wouldn't have taken large amounts of cash he's got like money in stocks and you know annuities

and 401ks and shit and you know tax shelters not shelters. Yeah. Not cash. What are we talking about? So, also, Chandler told people his parents also took a lot of alcohol with them on the trip. Just cash and booze. No clue. I got one pair of underwear, my whole bar, and every dime I got in cash. Let's roll, baby. In your 50s, you're taking a bunch of booze and only one pair of drawers? You better bring a few. This is, he's 23. That's what he would have taken. cash let's roll baby in your 50s you're taking a bunch of booze and only one pair of drawers you

better bring a few this is he's 23 that's what he would have taken a bunch of cash to gamble with a bunch of booze and a one pair of underwear in case to get my dick box of rubbers that's it yeah well yeah maybe yeah yeah but then all of their friends said they weren't heavy drinkers that would bring they wouldn't bring like a bunch of booze bunch of booze like they might bring a bottle of wine or something but not a fucking a full bar with them they're not gonna have a bunch of fifths with them just to let's start pouring so they described a bunch of people said to the cops that when they talked to chandler because they're friends and family, Chandler's like the point man because he lives there, so he's talking to all these people. They described

him as nervous, awkward, distracted, and quote, emotionally flat in his interactions with them in the days after they were missing. It doesn't sound like he even knows his parents. Not at all. He's like, I don't know, dude, they got a bunch of cash and just a pair of board shorts and some slides and

a bunch of booze and they just took off. Dad said was gonna get some stank on his hang down you know what i'm saying and like dad walked out with a couple handles of finlandia i don't know that's some lord calvert's with him and that's all they did this guy's on a bender he's on a fucking bender man so by the way we did a lord calvert's review for your stupid opinion so check that out enjoy so um they said including this is all people said he was like that for a few days including people who he visited several neighbors on the morning of the 8th to ask whether um you know they whether they'd seen his parents and stuff like that then when the cops come to get him on the 8th to talk to him he'll then ask a bunch of people um or before the cops come talk to him he goes around the neighbors and

he goes hey you guys got like ring doorbell do you have surveillance video showing the street at all oh that is gonna be the savior of this society yeah he's going doing like a chris watts dude you don't happen to have any because you could just give it to me and i'll take care of it of course i'm investigating yeah so one of the people's a longtime friend of the family named hannah said it's almost feeling like you have to think how to act said that that's how chandler was behaving with him her and her sister like very weird purpose purpose built behavior actions replies questions yeah interactions and i guess he had gone now he's saying he went to to a uh to the

family farm uh to a farm by himself okay okay because he's seen walking from a farm oh around down like a row of trees yeah i was just wandering around so they start searching they want to know why chandler never mentioned he went back to the farm why didn't he talk to us about that so they picked chandler up and took him to the station to talk to him so there's a video of it and uh he's kind of tired haggard looking with you of them talking of talk yeah they're talking to him and he just looks like he's kind of like what now like what's going on like he woke up it's kind of yeah he looks like he's kind of like, what now? What's going on? I just woke up. Yeah, he looks like he just got real stoned and took a half-hour nap, and someone just woke him up immediately.

And he's like, what's going on? Oh, the worst. Xanax grog. I don't know what's going on. I understand that anybody who's paid attention to the media would have to come to the conclusion that I killed my wife. Hi, my name is Zach Stewart-Pontier. I'm one of the filmmakers behind The Jinx, and I'm excited to bring you The Official Jinx Podcast. We'll be revisiting all six episodes of part one and watching along with part two as it airs on Max, starting April 21st. Bye-bye.

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Follow Morbid on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to episodes early and ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. So, yeah, he's wearing a hoodie and a baseball cap and he's explaining in very halting manner kind of what he's been doing everything he's been doing from june 30th to july 8th yeah so yeah he said that he after he told them his parents had left for the family cabin he left on the second and never returned he complained over the course of this interview of various injuries chandler does he needed uh he took three advil from the sheriff's office employee said he had a headache he said he had a headache leg pain and possible permanent nerve damage and also in his future is

the possibility of a colostomy bag it's a 23old? As a result of a fall he'd taken down the stairs in mid-June. He is. He blew his bowels out falling down the stairs. What 23-year-old falls down and has to shit in a bag afterwards? I've never heard of that before. He's behaving more elderly than me. What is wrong with this guy? Yeah.

I was 23. You could drop me out of a window and I would be like, I'm all right. I'm good. Took a fall. Feel like I'm going to have to shit in a bag. He's just telling him I got leg. I'm all fucked up. Permanent nerve damage.

I got permanent bag shitting coming up. I'm having problems. He's acting like a fucking McClane in Die Hard. Weird. So then they hit Chandler with this. and die hard weird so then they hit chandler with this yeah they go um we found out that your parents found out that you haven't been truthful with them what's up with that they said yeah we found out that you've been they found out recently that you've been lying to them for years he didn't go to school what he pretended to go to school he didn't have a job he didn't have a job

lined up at spacex he didn't even go to fucking school he had dropped out of school long ago what did he think years ago how do you think they were don't know it doesn't matter because one when you're doing it it's just i'll think of the next lie to cover the next lie and i'll cover that oh my god and he's anna delvey this shit he's now grandiose to this fucking life that he doesn't have i'm graduating with honors i have a job at spacex none of it's true oh my god he built this giant false image of himself and told his parents about it and told everybody about it and they are they're about to find out they found out they found out because the parents told friends that they found out about it and family and shit and And so they told the cops. Oh my God.

How embarrassing. Chandler, why would you say that? Why would you lie? That's embarrassing. It's just, I have been lying for years and I've seen several. This is a thing that people do.

There's several things that these college students that aren't college students that lie to their parents for years. And then they get to the point of graduation. I need to graduate soon. And they don't know what to do because what the fuck do you do now? Now you're going to be in trouble. You're so beholden to your parents that you will lie to them for years telling them you're going to school rather than just going,

I dropped out, fucking deal with it or shut up. That's what me or you would have said if we actually had gone to college because we would have dropped out. No, if I told my mom I dropped out, she'd be like, yeah, I figured. Yeah, obviously. You know what? You still got more college than anybody else in the family. That's what my fucking father would have said.

Good job. You could barely go when it was state mandate, let alone optional and purchase. I had to force you to go when, if you didn't, people would come to my house to get you. And maybe try to lock me up. Lock me up for it. So, yeah. What the fuck, though? This is detectives Brian Shunk and Bill Hendrickson.

How embarrassing for Bart, though, to tell his friends to be like. Yeah, my son's a fucking liar. What do I do? He's looking for help, clearly. And I would be like, Mitchell, is this true what you're doing? Are you lying too? Mitchell, get in here. Do you really have a job?

I'd be going to visit him at work. I'll just come visit you at work. Show me your pay stubs, you son of a bitch. Where are you? Act like you're buying a used car. Pay stubs. I need six months. Six months of pay stubs.

Going back. So they talked to him. He said that he helped his parents pack for the trip even he said that he broke a pane of glass on a fireplace cover while playing with one of the family's two dogs that's why there's a broken piece of glass over the fireplace cover and that he visited his girlfriend's mother's partner on july 4th and shot off fireworks with one of his mother's co-workers later that night that's what he's been up to yeah so they said again let's just go back and you describe to me yeah what happened the last time you saw your parents right he says okay quote

it's thursday morning i wake up so he's doing present tense at this point, which is weird right away. They said, what time do you think? He said, six. That's early. Up at six. Well, you get it with no job. When you got it, it's a long day of lying. You got to get up early and sort your lies out.

If your whole life is a lie, you get up an hour. Early bird gets the fib. It gets the lie. Yeah, you'd wake up an hour early just to sit and like okay let me figure out and form my life for the day and my whole how what i'm going to say how do i this convince of this yeah out of this i need evidence and proof he said his dad was at home working um and uh he had dinner with both of his parents that day and he said quote that's when they told me while they were eating that they were going to go with their friends. And I was like, oh, cool.

That's what he said. It's quote unquote. Oh, cool. Yeah. The detective said and they had said they were going to the cabin. And Chandler said, well, we're going up north, they said. So now he's not even saying that he was positive about the cabin. Yeah.

He didn't even follow up. He just said they said up north and i assumed cabin which is all present tense this ratting weird shit immediately so the detectives question him um while they're questioning him by the way they're searching the farm that he was seen walking by that's not their farm the other part is like he's a known liar so now every question that he answers you have to like yeah try to process like where why would he say that oh yeah oh this would be so fucked this is this is fucking fun here though because you know you got a guy dangling and you know what this is jody arias when you know more than he knows you know this is like russell williams well i got your footprints

and the thing here and he goes oh fuck yeah or btk going that dna is like a hundred percent huh all right let me tell you here's the you know the oteros let's talk about those like wait ruffle panties in my top drawer what let's get it on then so at this point the deputies who are searching the farm yeah notify the police that they've they have found something out here they might be interested in so then the detective hendrickson comes back in he's got a completely different attitude towards chandler he's smiling and giggly i know something you don't know he came in he said listen to me yeah this is the only chance you're gonna have to tell us the truth okay yeah a kid like this you gotta treat him i think like you're his parents because i think

that's what he reacts that's why he would lie to them for so long. He said, what we, listen, listen. He's got so much there. I want to phrase this for you. I don't want this to be perfect. I can only say it once. I only get the chance to scare the motherfucker out of you once. Here I go.

What we, listen, listen. I can't tell you what we know but we know you're not telling us the truth you need to tell us the truth so chandler goes there's that's what he does fuck what do you know there's and a big sigh. Yeah. And the detective says, listen, listen. Yeah. You need to tell the truth about what happened and just tell us why it happened. I'm not BSing you, okay? I'm not BSing. You can say bullshit when you're talking about murder. Well, there's a body.

Yeah. You get some proof. We're beyond language being offensive at this point. You can call him a motherfucker. That's why we curse on this show because we're like, we talk people's heads being sawed off we can't say fuck that's fucking crazy yeah there's no other way to describe it so anyone who can describe murder without cursing i they're not telling you the truth they're they're bullshit they're bullshit they're fucking full of shit they are more than bs and yeah a little bit i'm not bsing you okay so can we do

that and chandler says okay yeah okay lawyer what ends the interview right there all right sure give me a lawyer soon as he sits down and that cop looked at me the chandler knows he knows more than he wants to know he knows there's no way out of this so he just says lawyer done lawyer which is smart yeah but also disappointing for our kid that's smart you should have just gone to college man that's what i mean rather than so the request for a lawyer ends the interview now what was going on? Why they said, listen, listen. All that shit. While they're talking to him, these detectives received information there. Turns out

deputies get a tip from a farm owner that says she had seen Chandler walking from the wood line on her property a few days before he had reported his parents missing. Okay. Deputies searched the area. They discovered human remains. Oh, no. A male Deputies searched the area. They discovered human remains. Oh, no.

A male torso. Dismembered. Not a whole body. Cut up. A torso. Wow. Yes. And he's like a sick Johnny Appleseed dropping around?

It's dropping pieces. Yeah, going around like fucking the dude who used to throw the confetti in the air. Yeah. The old comedian guy. I can't remember his name. Rip Torn. There you go. No, not Rip Torn go no not ripped torn ripped uh rip something no he's not he's um is it rip charles nelson riley oh okay well there was a rip that had it yeah yeah yeah with the mustache and the fake hair yeah no rip torn is is the guy from arty from black yeah and arty from larry sanders i killed a woman like you in korea

that's arty there so i need to know what his fucking last name is just for me that's uh comedian uh taylor taylor bingo pop you said ripping into the word taylor came out so when yeah that's the guy with hello fres Hello, Fresco. Yeah, that guy. So they go to work on it. They identify the remains as Bart. Yeah. Yes. No Krista, though.

No sign of a woman's torso. And no legs, arms, or head? Not at the moment. Oh, my. So in a statement, they said preliminary results from the autopsy confirmed that Mr. Halderson died from homicidal violence including firearm injury so he gunshot to the to the body he didn't explode yeah in a field somewhere yeah so that's pretty much goes without saying during the hearing because now they arrest chandler he calls for the wire and they go great you can talk to him and fucking lock up because you're going to fucking jail now we We'll get him here for you. No problem. You can give him a call from there.

So they said that during this hearing, they talk about the body being dismembered. They're going to they're expecting to file homicide charges. They're not doing it right now. Right now, he is held on ten thousand dollars bail, rejecting pleas from the district attorney for one million dollars bond he's booked into the county on a tentative felony charge of providing false information on a missing person okay the judge said if you want him on a million you got to charge him with more than that yeah and we can't charge him with murder because we don't even know we don't yeah we're not positive of anything so he said you were not going to 10 grand is what you're going to get hold of. Now they come up with a clue.

The thing about nowadays is everywhere you go. God damn the cameras, cameras, your phone. Holy shit. Your phone is just like a, just a map of where you've been, who you've talked to at what time. It can just show a whole, your whole life. You know, the fun part about phones is that you can look in maps and it fucking shows everywhere your phone's exactly where you've been it's crazy so they get a clue

from snapchat of all places the one time on the face of the earth that snapchat has been useful for anything snapchat sucks a cock yeah so it's gross it's just a bad it's just bad it's gross it's just lousy it's just naked children yeah it's awful oh i didn't know that that's what they do they send each other that far my daughter's on it all the time and i'm like you need to get off of that right i've heard of horrible things that just naked chill that sounds awful that's the way i describe anywhere that everybody says are you on snapchat I go, no, I deleted it. It's all naked children. Anyone that says anything. Did you ever go to that one, the McDonald's?

It's all naked children. I'm never going there again. Not going to that McDonald's. I don't want to see that. It's just children sending each other their dicks. They get Chandler's use of his Snapchat app here. Okay. And he thought it all deletes.

use of his snapchat app here okay um and he thought it all deletes well his girlfriend kat melander katherine kat melander gave investigators permission to download data from her phone oh that's so nice the other side yeah detective said that she would keep tabs on him using a snapchat feature that allows users to track a friend's location in real time oh my god she kept track of him through that so she goes well i know where he was all the time one time that a stalker crazy girlfriend works out terrifically i got his whole everything i know everywhere he's been so if you want to see a little map of where he's been so they go well fuck yeah we'd like to see that on july 3rd she spotted him him on Snapchat near the Wisconsin River. Oh?

Belander had taken a screenshot of the location and saved it to her phone. You motherfucker vision. Wow. Nobody. Wow. Cat, you got to chill the fuck out. Number one. Let me say this.

Yeah, it paid off this time. This time, yes. But unless your boyfriend's a murderer, this is disturbing behavior, Cat. And this was only two years ago. So you're still young and you still have a chance to be normal. Thank you for helping this one time. Don't fucking do this anymore. Find a guy you can trust. Or if you need to map him on Snapchat and take screenshots, that means it's not a good relationship, Kat cat and you don't belong together because you don't trust him oftentimes uh psychos attract psychos too so the two of them

might be i'm not saying that i don't know no but he's a he's a fucking con man oh he's yeah he's clearly beyond she she you can catch this cat don't it's this was one person it's one person he's a liar yes you find someone who you can trust and you don't need to track in real time snapchat holy shit um so detectives search the snapchat location they go to the location he was at they get there because they know exact coordinates once they get there they find human remains oh my god he just they confirmed they were the remains of his mother krista halderson he dismembered his mother what the fuck he dismembered his parents man to to hide that he didn't go to college because he lied oh he didn't want to come clean

and they there was the embarrassment when he came clean or i don't know if they were threatening him to kick him out or cut him off or i don't know what to get his shit together. They were just, you know, not 100,000%. Hey, little Chandli, can we get you anything for two seconds? And he couldn't fucking take it anymore. Wow. We can't know. Never will.

Can't know. Yeah. Because he said lawyer. That's all we know. So, yeah, he's charged with the murder, and he looks pretty bad for him at this point. The Snapchat location where they were found was a familiar place to Chandler as well. It's a place he'd gone before. It was near his favorite swimming hole for years in a remote area with access to the Wisconsin River.

Dropped his mom in his favorite swimming hole? Brought it to my favorite swimming hole. Wow. You never saw Opie do that shit, I don't think. I've never watched that show once, but I doubt he did that. I know they went to a fishing hole. Maybe he dropped a corpse off there. I think Andy lived a long time.

Well, yeah, that's true. But where was the mom? Yeah, that's a great point. I never saw her in the... And he was a cop. He helped fucking cover it up. That's what I'm saying. I just saw the opening because it would come on after something I was watching watching before i could find the remote to change it halfway through that song i'd

see them like walking down to a fishing hole don't see mom anywhere just saying so they found um uh yeah they found photos where they found the remains of the mother found during a search there one of the people searching the property near the wisconsin river on july 14th here um said that um he smelled human remains before finding them it's the summer and it's been two weeks jesus he said this is kevin gruber a part-time medic for the county sheriff's human meringue human meringue did i i'm sure that smells no yeah no no human meringue yikes that's all whipped up at that point it's got to be stiff that's poor fucking people jesus uh kevin said my first indication was the smell the approximately 30 searchers weren't told what to look for on the department

of natural resources oh you'll know when you find it if you find something weird let me know outside of quote anything of interest yeah that in murder case, they found the dismembered remains of legs, later identified through DNA as belonging to Krista. They were found in two locations about 30 yards apart. Legs were 30 yards apart, just scattering them. just scattering them a utah woman visiting her daughter no near this land on july 3rd said she was outside playing with her granddaughter when she saw a man with a backpack walk away from a parked car further down the road and later returned to it the person said at the time i didn't think it was odd yes and um yeah she said she didn't recognize that chandler outside the general description that he fit she said i just thought it was a guy who was going hiking.

Who pays attention to somebody you just see walking. Somebody with a backpack walking away from a car. I don't give a shit about you. Feels hikeable. Mind your fucking business, everybody. So he's being charged with kidnapping, murder, and dismembering his father. Now he's charged with the same shit for his mother. Now he's charged with the same shit for his mother.

And also the they're in the criminal update. He is quoted as telling a detective as he's being taken away at one point that he, quote, didn't feel bad about what he did. So maybe they were saying, did you feel bad about lying? And he said, I don't feel bad about it, about the school stuff. Or it could be I don't feel bad about killing my parents. We don't know there. So that's just out of context. I don't feel bad about what I did. So they found, um, that's why they didn't find Krista's remains till six days later.

Oh my God. So they were, that's so disturbing. Um, according to the complaint, Chandler made a number of unsolicited comments and spontaneous utterances after asking for an attorney. He didn't just say lawyer and then sit back and cross his arms like they do on the wire. He asked for attorney. Then he was told an attorney asked. Then he was told, well, you're being put under arrest. And he told the detective he wanted to, quote, go back up. And then he would tell me everything. So once they were taking him to jail, he said, go back up and then he would tell me everything. So once they were taking him to jail, he said, take me back in and I'll tell you everything.

He didn't want to go to jail. He wanted to be taken back to the interview room. He would have rather delayed a couple hours going to jail and give the whole thing up. Because he doesn't want to go. That's how, for the moment, he is. Think about that. But he said lawyer, so they can't go back they said we can't you asked for a fucking lawyer once you say you want a lawyer it's over with you're going to jail yeah once we did once we and now he's panicking he's panicking chandler he's 23 and

he lies about everything and he's a pussy and he doesn't want to go to jail yeah so the detective explained that you invoked your right to an attorney. Interview is over. And Chandler responded along the lines of, quote, what if I want to tell you everything with an attorney there to guide me? And then later on, he said, again, I just want to tell you everything. I just don't want to go. I just don't want to go to jail. Don't put me in there. Take me two hours less. Meanwhile, you're going to a fucking rural Wisconsin jail.

It's going to be a bunch of drunken college kids. That's all it is. That's it. That's all it'll be there. So according to prosecutors, they decide to tell the court that he has, quote, spun a web of lies after reporting his parents missing. He told they told authorities Chandler did that his parents had left with an unknown couple. And obviously they didn't hear. They told authorities Chandler did that his parents had left with an unknown couple.

And obviously they didn't here. And they also said investigators found discrepancies in his story, including a claim that his parents had planned to attend a parade in White Lake. When they looked into it, there was no parade scheduled anywhere. What is he doing? So he's just making up lies that will get him out of the moment. Jesus doesn't think it's not a lie to set up a bigger thing it's just lie for the minute you know what and i just figured his girlfriend didn't set that thing up because she's got a fucking liar he just lies all the time and she's had enough that's why i said find

someone you don't have to fucking track because they're not a liar yeah she's probably not a dickhead she's probably just he fucking lies he makes her think she's crazy so she's like fuck it i'll set things up. My phone can't. I'm not crazy if my phone tells me what you're doing. You're a liar. Yeah. Period. My phone said you're a liar.

Everything. You said you're here. It says you're there. Everything's telling me you're lying. It's fucking crazy. So no parade. Yeah. They said there.

No signs of activity at the. Wow. Anything they found. Mother's body dismembered as well as the father's. And yeah, so the medical examiner says that they were discovered. Krista Halderson's recovered legs were consistent with being sawed apart.

Although they were in varying stages of decomposition. They said, quote, this appeared to be kind of steps in the bone. This is consistent with a sharp force injury that can be sawing, can be cutting. But again, we have movement.

It's not just a clean cut. Hand operated. Clean through. Yeah. It's not just like a fucking big circular saw came down. Jesus. This is a guy taking a fucking hand saw and cutting his parents into multiple pieces. My God.

Then dropping them in different locations all over the place, then going, I don't know where they are. What? They heard about a parade. That's a sick, disturbing person. Yeah, absolutely. It's a very, very scary person there. To cover up a lie, James.

To cover up a lie. That's what I mean. This isn't for $5 million. This isn't for... Yeah, he's not looking for insurance money. This isn't revenge. Nobody killed his daughter. This is just lies. This is because there's shame. dollars this isn't for yeah he's not looking for insurance this isn't revenge nobody like nobody killed his daughter this is a this is just this is because there's shame yeah he doesn't want to

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They said precise cause of death cannot be known because of decomposition and lack of all the parts as well. Because animals, it's the summertime in the woods. Animals can take stuff as well, but it's ruled a homicide. The medical examiner said, I don't actually know which injury caused the death of Krista Halderson, but I believe she died as a result of some violence. Yeah, I would say. Probably shot. You think? Deputy Eric Schneider also described how just after the torso was found, he found several items used for sawing and cutting.

Oh, boy. Including a bolt cutter, a saw blade on the inside of an old oil tank on that property. He was among a group of crime scene investigators who found a tarp stained with reddish or brown substance in the barn. So, yeah, probably what? That's how he carried them out there. You can't fucking carry a torso. He's a pussy. He's not carrying a torso out there.

He's quite the little bitch. Yeah. So three months later. What? After this, they find more evidence okay they uh collected more evidence from uh chandler's home and from the farm where the headless torso of his father was found including the rifle they believe he used to kill his father and the shoe are the spot here the shoe although there's a shoe where he hid both his parents' phones and driver's licenses.

He stuffed them in his shoe and tossed them. Wow. So, yeah, he shut his phone, the phones up, stuffed them in there, their licenses, get rid of them. Weird. Wow. That is fucking, he is, they believe now by putting it all together, he killed his parents. He dismembered them. The parts that they didn't find,

they believed because he burned them in the family fireplace. Where the window was broken. Where the window was broken, yes, where he was playing with the dogs, as he said. He burned them in the fireplace, but they didn't burn all the way, and the bigger the parts, the fingers might burn,

but you're not getting a thigh to burn. So what do you do? You have to take a torso. It's too big for the fireplace. You got to go toss it somewhere. So that's what he did. He just sawed them up and then didn't think, oh, fuck, I can't burn them all. This is too much.

It's too much. So they do that. And instead, they scattered the parts in all sorts of different places. Wow. They had dozens of photos and pieces of physical evidence introduced here, including three rifle magazines containing a total of 55 rounds of ammunition this guy with

55 rounds of ammunition locked in that scares the fuck out of me because he is dangerous a bullet fragment and casing and an axe covered with human blood he's chopping his parents up with a fucking axe all found in the home that that's in their house.

That was just at home. And he left that shit in his house. That's how dumb this fucking kid is. How cocky he is that he can get away with his lies. Narcissist. Man. So the rifle was found. They missed the rifle the first time.

They've searched. They searched it 10 times, missed it. Yeah. It was found behind some boards in the barn on the property where the torso was found but not until three months after the barn was first searched by county sheriff's office people in the days after the discovery of the torso and long after the property had been turned back to its owners somebody else's property this was someone's property he hit a gun yeah in their barn somebody else's property he hit a gun in he hides a gun there yes that that's where he dumped the well he's dumping torsos

he went in the barn put some shit in there that's where they found a tarp and found other shit and then behind some boards he hid this shit that they didn't find till three months later gun would never be found on somebody else's property you know what i mean you know that's wild um it's the girlfriend of i guess this is the girlfriend of his girlfriend's mother it's his mother's partner yeah it's her so that's who this is it's her family's farm that's why that's why he knows the place they say chandler was fond of russian-made rifles like the one found in the barn and had been given such a rifle by a friend with whom he played online first person shooter video games with don't give anyone you're playing

online first person shooter video games with don't give them real fucking weapons first of all thank you if they want to buy one great but you leave that to other people crime scene investigating this is a great name for a crime scene investigator I had to laugh in the middle of investigator.

Greg Leatherberry. Not bad. I'm Greg Leatherberry. I'm here to investigate. Leatherberry? That sounds like your ball sack. You could punch it and it won't hurt. I was hoping it was like Dusty Prince or something like that.

Yeah, it's out there dusting for fingerprints. Dusty Prince. I was thinking something dirty. Dusty balls. This is Greg T spackle nice to meet you well spackle my taint that's his catchphrase this is dick puddle so he found three rifle magazines hidden behind a section of insulation on a basement wall at the halderson home oh so at the home and the bullets they contained were the same type as the bullet that Chandler had given to his brother Mitchell

a few weeks before the killings. The bullet had Get Well written on it and was meant as a gift after Mitchell was diagnosed with diabetes. Oh my God. Hey, you got the beats?

Here's a bullet. Get Well? What the fuck kind of present is that? I don't like Chandler. If you can't handle beaties, use this. That's what I think

what it's for. Yeah. Get Well or else should have been on the other side they presented photos here of a plastic target shopping bag found in the garbage cart on the farm property that they found the rifle on the bag was a sticker with the first initial and last name of halderson's girlfriend at the time kat milander and inside the bag was another plastic bag containing rags stained with fucking blood reddish brown substance and two brillo pads stained with the same this is his cleaning his cleanup kit is is a reusable grocery bag with his girlfriend's name on it and two brillo pads jesus some rags yeah she uh melander was given

the bag the girlfriend when picking up up groceries on July 1st at Target because I think she could still do the curbside pickup. Yeah. Still COVID shit. According to her testimony, the bag was then, that's why her name is on a sticker. It's a pickup. The bag was then brought to Halderson's home on July 2nd, prosecutors say. They say when he opened the bag, he first smelled cleaning supplies, which were quickly

overtaken by a rancid putrid smell. Yeah, like blood. Like, yeah, rotting blood. Leatherberry also testified about the drops of blood found near the family's downstairs fireplace. Yeah. As well as the piece of human bone found in the fireplace. Damn it. And that his attention was drawn to different kinds of burn residue in the fireplace is great.

He said, quote, I knew that there was something more burnt in this fireplace than wood products. Actually, I knew that there was something more burnt in this fireplace than wood products, or else my name isn't Detective Leatherberry. That is fucking wild. He's tougher than Tackleberry. It's way tougher, yeah. He doesn't need all those guns. Found in the same stand of

woods as the father's torso was a rubber made garbage cart containing a tarp that also appeared with blood stained with blood according to the testimony and they noticed that in photos of the scene vegetation under the cart was still green suggesting the cart had only been recently placed so that's what they didn't stick it there from the farm for two months. They also testified about the searching for shoes in the Halderson home in an attempt to match tread marks found on the property by the shoes. The jury saw photos of five Brooks Launch 5 running, or a pair of Brooks Launch 5 running shoes. Those Brooks shoes.

I don't know those ones. Brooks? They're for old men okay or or super joggers runners love brooks are good one of those ones like the medical people are always wearing uh no it's it's just normal it has if you saw the low the the swoosh that goes up the side yeah oh i know they're kind of like those ones they're better than asics i know those ones okay they're good shoes uh those shoes appeared to be, well, these ones weren't good shoes because these appeared to have spots of blood on them.

Oh, that's a bad shoe. That's a bad shoe. I don't like this one. It has blood spatter on it. Can I get a different shoe? Can I trade this shoe? It's a bad shoe. It's not a good shoe.

And then a floral print shoe that had been hidden under some shelving in the Halderson's garage and found to contain two phones and their Bart and Krista's driver's licenses wrapped in paper towel and tinfoil. Why would he? That can't get a location if it's wrapped in tinfoil. Are liars like meth heads? They just do weird shit? I think so.

He didn't have a real good murder plan here. So the opening statements of the trial, they say that he's living a lie, the prosecution said in his trial about having a job, having gone to school and getting a better job waiting for him in Florida. When his father figured it out, they claim, Halderson decided to kill him and his mother and get rid of their bodies first in the family fireplace and then around southern Wisconsin and lie about that, too. And then what? Yep. And then what?

Yep. They said that he presented himself to the world as a soon-to-be graduate of a renewable resources engineering program at Madison Area Technical College with a job at American Family Insurance and a SpaceX job waiting for him when he graduates. Renewable energy degree certainly wasted on working at American Family. Well, that's just in the meantime until he graduates. That's just to bridge the gap. Yeah. Might as well be Dairy Queen. It doesn't doesn't matter i'm flying fucking drones through then i'm gonna be fucking taking yeah i'm gonna be planning shuttle launches pretty soon he went

so far as to fabricate dozens if not hundreds of emails between him and the madison area technical college and american family because he wasn't working there either in an attempt to justify the story he was telling the world including his father who was starting to ask questions about why his son never seemed to have any money even though he works full fucking time at american family insurance why just why are all these bills coming in for doctors don't you have health insurance at american fucking family? You would think so. Well, then Bart, the dad, posing as his son during a phone call with a frontline worker at the technical college, discovered that he hadn't been going to school. Oh, God. Yep. He let Chandler know of the call and told him of a meeting he scheduled between the two of them and the college officials.

We're all going to sit down and talk about this that's going to be embarrassing yeah well that's going to be bad realizing he was about to be exposed chandler fought shot his father in the back of the head in the windsor home uh here just before the meeting they said it was just before the meeting was supposed to start all it was was to save embarrassment he didn't want to be embarrassed and get yelled at by his dad. He then had to sit with his dad's corpse there and wait for his mother to return home from work a few hours later and then shot her when she came in as well to cover up the fucking to cover up the killing of a murder. Then tried to dispose of their bodies, file falsified missing persons reports and all of that. They said, quote, a lot of cases begin with murder this one is just a small piece of the puzzle chandler spun an amazing web of lies

to put it mildly yeah defense attorney called her client just a normal kid what a normal kid who likes to play video games and who didn't kill his parents just like every 23 years old that is not a kid anymore. Normal kid. Just a normal guy. That's a 23-year-old failure. She said, we'll never know. The saddest thing about this whole trial is that we'll never know how Bart and Krista really died. Is that the saddest part?

They must have exploded. She said, quote, they simply don't know what happened. Okay. She said that it's not a juror's job to be a story collaborator. Put aside your emotions and rely on your logic here. She said the state's witnesses and the evidence would

not be hotly contested by the defense and it's not possible to know how Bart and Christie might have responded to Chandler's lies. She also made clear that at the end of her trial, defense attorneys could stand before the jury and conceding that the state did convict Chandler of some crimes, but never murder. I can't. Prosecution contends that a text message Chandler received on July 4th from his mother's phone, at which he pointed to as proof she was still alive, was really sent by Chandler from his mother's phone after he killed her to himself.

What the fuck is happening? He's a disturbing. Diabolical. Diabolical motherfucker. That's a bad kid. This is a bad guy. He's not a good kid. No.

A toothbrush had believed to have been used by Krista. This is some evidence introduced. The email exchange between bart and krista about that they have an exchange like he said i caught chandler in a lie and they talked about the college situation so they know for a fact that they knew about that a toothbrush head that believed to have been used by krista black lengths of rope found in the halderson garage and around bart's torso they match an An empty bottle of hydrogen peroxide that he used to clean with.

A swab containing human blood that had been taken from a drain of the freezer. A drain of a freezer in the family's basement. Gross. So he put him in the freezer? I guess he didn't know what to do with him for a minute. Jurors see photos of the bodies and of Bart's body

and it's pretty disturbing. They talk about the rifle in the shed. His ex-girlfriend and her mother testify. Oh, boy. And then the mother's girlfriend, too. They talk about Chandler had been on the farm on July 4th with the girlfriend for a 4th of July celebration, then came by alone the day after asking to use the pool. They say this was a ruse that he used as an excuse to dump his father's torso.

Mind if I come by that way? It wouldn't be weird that he was there. They also decided to search the farm shortly after they interviewed the girlfriend and found the shit. He said it was there that he saw some turkey vultures, unusual among birds and their strong sense of smell circling overhead long grass tamped down as if with car tires with car tires near the woods and a target bag filled with filled with bloody rags the guy said it took me a while to process what i was seeing and then it became obvious i was looking at a human torso because it's decomposed yeah with turkey vultures circling it man they said they said that generally Chandler was quiet and a bit nerdy. One person said, just seemed kind of off.

Kind of weird, actually. His concussion was really bad. I guess he had a concussion at some point. They said that the prosecution had sought to shed doubt on whether Chandler was seriously injured or injured at all in the fall. He took down some stairs in June. An emergency room physician who saw him in June testified that while he likely had a mild concussion, his CT scans did not show any abnormalities, and he did not tell Halderson as Halderson had told the officers that he might need surgery,

couldn't fly, or will need a shit bag in the future. I can't fly. Tell them I can't fly anywhere. I can't fly either. Wow. That is fucking amazing they said that chandler had never been to the property alone before that and um that his girlfriend when finding out that he was coming over to that pool had rushed over because she had she said that the girlfriend's the mother's girlfriend sometimes is topless by the pool and the girlfriend said i was worried's girlfriend sometimes is topless by the pool.

And the girlfriend said, I was worried that he might see her. Don't be worried. I was worried. She's on top of shit. Wait, he's going to see tits. I got to get in the car. So I guess he used to talk to the girlfriend and try to, you know. Flirt with her?

No, no, no. Talk to her like as a mentor-y type of figure, I guess. But they did say that they hadn't been locking their shed. The rifle found there was not theirs. It must have belonged to him. And it matches the murder weapon. So, yeah, it's pretty close there. He'd been lying to his parents for a couple of years now, by the way. He even lied to his girlfriend because they were

her lease was up her lease was up soon and she was planning on joining him in florida in seisei in september when he takes his big job at spacex so she was saying yeah yeah no not renewing my lease he's putting her in a position where she's about to be fucking homeless yeah exactly standing in florida with all of her shit for no reason and she said i just believed his parents were missing and i wanted them to be found oh my god that's all um then they also have video footage of security footage taken from a home near the halderson's in which the family subaru can be seen leaving and returning multiple times between July 1st and 7th. And they said that was Chandler only decided to distribute his parents' remains after failing to burn them in the fireplace. Oh, my God.

Also, the gun. Again, they talk about the gun that they found. He's so busted. Yeah, he has all sorts of, yeah. Smith documented the weapon exchange by taking a photo, his friend that gave him the gun, taking a photo of Chandler's ID alongside the rifle serial number before Chandler hid the gun inside a desk in his family basement. He said that, quote, his parents understood why firearms exist in the world, not that they necessarily support having them. I understood they might not be happy about him having the firearm in the house because they might he might shoot them maybe that's why um so this this goes on a lot um they said that um um they asked the friend who gave him the gun how many guns he sold and the

friend said that's none of your business frankly i'm not the one on trial here. I'm not a gun dealer. Don't worry about me. Oh, man. Yeah. Following the testimony, jurors heard from his roommate, a former roommate, Alex Gravatt, and a former girlfriend named Dakota Brown. The girlfriend said Chandler had told them he was doing search and rescue scuba diving missions for the madison police department they don't have a unit that does that there he just lied to them and told them that's what he was doing because that sounded cool to him at the time he said he but he has nothing to be

embarrassed about he did all this to himself yeah he just he boy he couldn't he needs to be this thing wow yeah they found uh tools that they said matched with the cuts also. Yeah. Hacksaw found on the property. Axe with blood on it. They talked about a cutting tool with a certain amount of blade teeth that matches up perfectly. They said the alloy saw and hacksaw analyzed were found inside an old tank and said that this was the tool. They said they're not going to be able to say it was for sure the one that was used, but it was consistent with the wound.

So this could be the one. And he hid them. So, you know, that's possible here. They talk about Bart sending his last text. And when that happened and also he was sending texts for his dad, apparently, as his dad, I should say. Yeah, this goes bad. And email exchanges, I can't believe he made up thousands of emails about what he's doing. Between him and so he could show his dad that. That's bonkers.

That's fucking bonkers. So, wow. A little smiley faces on all this shit. What? Yeah, these texts. Oh, this, that. I little smiley faces on all this shit. What? Yeah, these texts. Oh, this, that. I spoke to this person. The last text she sent read, I hope things are going well.

Thinking about you. That was how. Okay, that's the last text that she sent. All right. Anyway, verdict comes in. Deliberating for two hours. They find him guilty of two counts each of first degree intentional homicide. Mutilating a corpse. Hiding a corpse. Hiding a corpse corpse and falsifying information about a missing person who then turned into a corpse.

Yeah. District attorney says, I hope that brings some satisfaction. We know that we cannot bring back Bart and Krista, but this is the first step to hopefully bringing some finality. So for during sentencing, they reminded jurors of the evidence, cutting tools, DNA, phone locations, all that shit. They said, we know that Bart and Krista went into that home and never came out, at least as whole people. Oh, my God. He had eight days to spread pieces of this puzzle all over the place. And yeah, they said, give give them the dignity their son wouldn't let them give.

The defense attorney said, do you know if it was an awful accident? Do you know if it was intentional? Do you know if there was someone else involved? You don't, and that's the problem. Is that the problem? That's the problem. They said that Chandler, yeah, he's a liar. He's gone to extreme lengths to keep his lies going, but so what?

So what? He accidentally killed his parents. You'd lie like this too if your life was at risk over an accident. Yeah, yeah. He doesn't want to be there for his sentencing, by the way. No? He's such a narcissist, doesn't want to be confronted so much. He can't sit there for his sentencing.

It's embarrassing. And he has to make a special filing because the law says you have to be there unless you do these crazy waivers and all this type of shit. Victim impact statements. A letter from grandma saying that he's basically a piece of shit here. Mr. Halderson should have the ability to be reviewed and be considered for release back into our community at any point, despite his young age. No, I cannot say to the community here that that should happen. You, sir. Here. Sorry. Here's the judge. I cannot conceive of a way to fulfill my duty to protect the public that I serve.

Were I to perceive that at some point in time, an individual who committed these crimes should be released back into the public. You, sir. Yeah. May fuck off life without parole. At 23. At 20. At this point, you had 24 or whatever the fuck it is here. Yes.

The prosecutor said, almost every homicide I've prosecuted, there's been a fairly tragic backstory of the defendant. Violence, drugs, just tragedy. You're often left with an explanation, not an excuse, but an explanation as to why the crime occurred. There's not an explanation here. Chandler grew up with a life of privilege. Yeah. He continues to be in prison he's filed an appeal we'll see what happens no chandler sucks yeah that's wisconsin

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