Small Town Murder - #440 - A Character Of Evil - Airdrie, Alberta, Canada

Episode Date: November 18, 2023

This week, in Airdrie, Alberta, Canada, a strange hatred, and need of revenge boils inside of a very odd man, for years. It starts out as a nationwide mystery, but ends up as one of the most brutal & disturbing set of murders in Canadian history, and the whole thing was solved by an accidental photo being taken, proving the location of what used to be the bodies!Along the way, we find out that Canadians don't like cookie cutters, that you never know who may be harboring a grudge against you, and that no one should ever be their own undertaker!!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Everybody, let's go on a trip, shall we? All right. All right. We are going all the way to Canada this week. Get your passport, man. Let's do it. Get it ready and get ready to stop at that border. We are going to Airdrie, Alberta, Canada.

Airdrie. Airdrie. A- canada airdrie airdrie a a or a a r like double a no no a i r i'm sorry a i r air uh d r i e airdrie is how that works so yes going to airdrie very exciting uh alberta is if you don't know where Canadian provinces are, out west, north of like that eastern Washington, Idaho panhandle, Montana border there. That's where that all kind of covers. So you can figure out how that goes. Southern Alberta, this is. It's about 30 minutes outside of Calgary. So, you know, a pretty not – you can get to a city right there. So, you know, a pretty not you can get to a city right there.

About 32 hours of driving to get to our last Canada episode, which was in Caledon, Ontario. It's a 32 hour drive. And the fastest route goes through the U.S. too. So you can't even stay in the country. It's a mess. That's a fascinating bit about that country. It is. With America, like there are places that are north of places and you can that are north of places, and you can skip to another state right there. Canada, you can't do that.

They're all side by side. Yeah, it's side by each, all the way the fuck from sea to shining sea, from sea to frozen sea. Frozen lakes to frozen seas. So our last The Ontario episode we did last was Hunting the Home Hermit. That was a wild one, too. I remember that. Population at the time this happened, which was actually not too long ago, here is 68,091. It is growing rapidly at this point.

Really? Yeah, it's a suburb of Calgary, and it is just really growing extremely rapidly. And it is just really growing extremely rapidly. Median household income here is $110,000 Canadian, which is $79,742 in money that doesn't have hockey pucks or beavers on it. So that's good. And then $400,000 is the median home value here, which is $289,969 in non-English province script. So that's how that works. In currency that looks real. A little bit of history of this town.

It was first established as a railway spot. So it's one of those things. It's just they needed to stop in the 32-hour ride from Ontario. It's a long ride, man. And, yep, during the construction of the Calgary and Edmonton Railway, it was named for Airdrie, Scotland. So there we go, another name after something else. It originated just as a stopping point for steam trains,

and only railway buildings existed in 1901 when the first farmhouse barn was built so it was just railroads and then people started coming here based on that then they got a post office and a store and by 1909 the place is incorporated and oh boy is it off on its way now a couple of reviews of this town hard to find canadian city reviews so i had to find had to kind of fill it in yeah i found a real estate website that had like you know how do you like living here so most of them were about real estate though like well if the price doesn't come down four percent on the it was like shit like that like the apr there was a lot of weird stuff going on that i didn't understand so i found one here that says it's pretty perfect. Five stars.

Downtown Erdry is the heart of the city and known for its range of shops, restaurants, and other amenities. Sounds like it was written by AI, doesn't it? Right. Downtown is the heart of the city, known for its shops, restaurants, and amenities. It's a popular place to live for people who want to be close to the action and enjoy a lively and vibrant community that was absolutely ai that wrote that i feel like that just can't be real

nobody no it's not from a person so then i found on reddit there's a whole thing here about quote why does everyone seem to hate airdrie and then there's some answers to that i don't know why it seemed this is the vibe i'm getting it's not it's just very cookie cutter it was made as a suburb so it's one of these there's neighborhoods that are made everybody calls it stepford wives kind of place the word cookie cutter comes up a lot in this yeah someone says i don't hate it just seems like a cookie cutter bedroom community to me and um this one person says exactly and it has no. It's a city of like 70,000 people and it's downtown as a mall. In many ways, this isn't its fault. Up past the 50s, Airdrie was

just a whistle-stop village similar to Cochrane and Ockatox. But Cochrane and Ockatox grew into bedroom communities of Calgary. They retained bits of their original historical Main Street area, whereas Airdrie bulldozed it all. There's no charm. It's just a facade. It's a mall. It's like an American suburb. That's what it sounds like.

It sounds like every American. It sounds like Glendale, Arizona. You know what I mean? All the landscape is manufactured. Surprise. Yeah. Fake lake. It's just bullshit.

Yeah. There's our fake horseshit lake that we built our neighborhood around. It has a liner under it. Yeah, you know, it's, yeah, absolutely. The liner's ripped. The lake's leaking. Oh, no. The next one is, growing up in Calgary, I always saw it as a soulless cookie cutter town built in a field for people who work in Calgary and want to save a few dollars.

God damn it, I love the word soulless. Soulless. Built in a field for people who work in Calgary and want to save a few dollars. God damn it, I love the word soulless. Soulless. It's soulless. It says so much, yeah. As we know from Canadians, they say things are a joke a lot, as we found out in your stupid opinions. And then Canadian listeners backed it up. They were like, you know what? I never realized it, but we do say that all the time.

It's like, wow, that's so weird. I just used it for the first time in my life, and it feels really good to say that to someone who it's their problem. This is a fucking joke, and walk away from them. They seem to be happy up there, so maybe they're onto something. They seem pretty happy, right? Yeah, I like them. So things to do up here. All right.

The Airdrie festival of lights this is for the holiday season go with the glow it says in all capital letters for some reason located in the nose creek park the festival of lights is a beautiful outdoor walk through lights experience they just put lights up it's like zoo lights in phoenix at the zoo but then but there's also like a lion there here it's just lights there's no lion glendale glitter that shit in downtown glendale is pretty cool where they they'd light up fucking everything you sit in traffic for two hours and look at fucking lights that's that's a really fun one yeah i love that or you can fight two hours to find a fucking

parking space oh that's bad too they uh it's with about a million dollars worth of displays and other special features. That seems like a lot. We have miniature trains, which $2 a ride on those, which can carry the whole family around our preset paths, as well as open bonfires where you can savor that cup of hot chocolate or apple cider. I better breathalyze whoever's driving that. Jesus Christ. Nah, it's Canada. You just threw Calgary at the Edmonton. Calgary, Alberta. It's Alberta. lighter so i better breathalyze whoever's driving jesus christ that's canada you just through calgary at the edmonton calgary alberta has a nip in his jacket yeah i think that's it's cold up

there i think that it is yeah if the cop pulls you over they'll say you got any brandy on you or something to keep you warm okay good good take a hit of that and then keep on going i feel like it's cold you're gonna you're gonna need that so they say we've even got the kids covered with our unique kids only shopping experience also located within santa's gift shop no adults allowed i don't like that our hell our elves will help your little ones listen i don't know who you got as an elf. Keep your fucking elves away from me. Yeah, keep your elves arms distance from my goddamn kid. I'm not sending my kid into a goddamn tent with shit in it going, no, we'll take care of him.

That's fine. No, no, no, no, no. I'm sending him with a blade. Is it children working in the place? If there's adults in there, then I can come too. We'll put it that way. There's adults and I'm not allowed in. My kid's not allowed in.

Nope, not happening. So there you go. There's all of that. That said, let's talk about some murder here. Yeah. Oof, is this a crazy one? Okay, let's get it going. Canada, when you come to the table, you really, you bring the thunder with you.

I'll tell you that much. We had the guy. He set the table real nice. Yeah, the guy carving the guy up on the bus in front of everybody like showing putting organs up against the window to show him you had the the hermit guy last time who like lived in the woods now you have this and this is wild okay let's start here uh with a couple of people alvin and kathy uh lichness okay Kathy Lickness. Okay. L-I-K-N-E-S. So, yeah. Lickney's, Lickness.

Alvin and Kathy here. Alvin's born in 1948. Kathy born in 1961. They're married. This is a second marriage for both of them also as well. Together they have five kids. And I'm not sure, not together, but I mean amongst, if you add everybody up, there's five kids. He's got a couple from previous marriages. He's made some, she's made some.

Yep, they're all adults now. They have all adult kids, so no kids living in the house. Now, back in 2007, let's start there. In 2007, Alan was dabbling in the junior oil and gas exploration industry as one does. The fuck does that mean? As we've done many times, Jimmy. That's what we're doing here. We make podcasts, we're comedians, and then we dabble in the junior oil and gas exploration

industry on the side just to fuck around. Is there a boutique market for gas and oil? It's like day trading. It's the same type of deal except you just do this. Well, I guess Alvin hired a guy here we'll talk about to work on a pump. He's trying to get a pump going. He wants to get a patent for this pump that can separate oil from water, which would be handy it seems like. Fantastic, yeah. That would be great.

So he hires this guy named Douglas Garland. Douglas Garland, born in 1959. Douglas is an interesting fella here. Yes, a very, very interesting guy here. I guess he's got a bunch of brothers and sisters we'll talk about, especially though we're going to concentrate on his sister patty because there's a connection here his sister patty is also married to um alvin's son so that's how he comes in alvin's son is married to douglas garland's sister patty okay okay so that's how that works now uh douglas though Now, Douglas, though, very, very strange guy here. So we'll talk about all of this.

Garland here, he got into the University of Alberta Medical School in the mid-'80s when he was younger. But he didn't even make it a year because he left after a mental breakdown. Yeah. Which, I mean, medical school, a lot of pressure, and that's a lot going on there. But he was also, he said that. He said it was a mental breakdown. But the mental breakdown came because he was caught for cheating. And this was right after he'd been voted class president.

Oh, shit. So that's the kind of, he went from being i'm the class president at medical school to i'm a cheating exposed whatever the fuck and he lost his shit and just and and quit the school and everything else so yeah that's gotta feel shitty yeah nobody he was ruined i mean he's ruined at that school it's over so he's gonna have all all sorts of problems after that here. So in 1992, he's 33, and he's – well, here, we'll talk about this. He's arrested on weapons charges three times between 1988 and 1992. Four years, three times. Bunch of weapons charges.

All the times, though, the charges were dismissed, withdrawn, they say in Canada. So decided not to prosecute. Then in 1992, he's 33 years old, and he lives on a farm with his parents in Airdrie. And he is charged with running a meth lab out of his parents' farm.

Early adopter of the meth, huh? Yeah, he was into it quick, yeah. He got right on board of that train. Good for him. He was like an Apple investor in 1977. Ground floor of meth. Yeah, he was really on the ground floor. They discovered a meth lab hidden underneath a shed or inside a shed on the property.

So he just ran a meth lab out of one of the outbuildings, that's all. inside a shed on the property. Oh, wow. So he just ran a meth lab out of one of the outbuildings. That's all. They found no finished meth, no finished product, but it contained large quantities of all the chemicals you need to make meth. He just had a big, he had like a meth still, you know,

that's what you call it, right, a meth still? Yeah, I imagine so. They got it before he preheated the oven, that's all. That's it. That's all it was. He was just getting his ingredient. He just broke a couple eggs in a bowl and was about to add the cake mix, and the cops busted through the door. He had no finished cakes, though.

It was a bakery at 4 a.m., is what they found. He's lining up the beakers. That's all. That's all it is. So he gets arrested. He does get out on bail. Now, when he gets out on bail, he flees the area and heads to British Columbia. So the far west coast.

He didn't face the charges. He just did. Oh, he took off as soon as he got bailed out. He takes off and stays on the lam for seven years. That's ballsy. That's wild. Well, the way he did it was he stole an identity. He's a smart guy.

That's the thing. A smart guy on the run at stuff. There was a guy, he's living under the name of Matthew Kemper Hartley, and this is an identity he stole from an Alberta teenager who died in a car crash in 1980. Yeah, Finkel is Einhorn. That's what you do. It's not bad.

It's exactly what it is. And if you've seen, I've read books about people who are like con artists and stuff, and the way back then it was very easy to steal the identity graveyard right well you'd find that you'd find babies that have you'd do it that way you find babies that died that have their births and you take theirs yeah because that's a social security number you look for somebody about the same age as you and this this kid teenager in 1980 would have been about the same age as him so yeah you can't have you know an identity of someone that's 20 years younger than you or older than you it doesn't work but you can't have the identity of a baby yeah that's yeah but a baby

that died right around the time you were born years ago yeah so that's how it works so he stole that this teenager hartley was uh driving a car near his family's ranch in Cardston, which is about three and a half hours south of Calgary, when he hit a pickup truck. And his little sister, Jill, who was 12, was also killed in the accident. Jesus Christ. So, yeah, that family. Jesus, talk about devastating. They lost two kids in one swipe there. So he even collected unemployment benefits under this kid's name that's jesus christ

that is fucking ballsy man imagine that you're using a false identity on the run from meth lab charges and you're like you know what they owe me a couple of bucks are you kidding me be happy you're not in prison and figure it out what is is wrong with you? Taxpayers are still going to pay for me. Yeah, I feel like in one way or another, this is going to happen. So that is crazy. So he does this. In 1999, a tip, just a tip from somebody,

somebody contacts police after seeing his picture on a most wanted list online and said, I know that guy. Holy shit. That's not who he says he is. So when he was finally caught, he was living in the lower mainland in BC, working as, and this is fucking rich, a chemical mixer for the BC Institute of Technology. Wow.

Yeah. That's what I mean. He's doing that and drawing uh unemployment he was that was before that he was drawing unemployment and then he did that which i'm like wow that is that's impressive he's a yeah that's that's definitely rich chemical guy who's on the run for meth lab meth lab when they found him they contacted um mat contacted Matthew Hartley's family. Oh, shit. His mother, who was in a nursing home at that point.

Oh, no. And the family didn't know who the fuck he was at all. It's not like he was like, he just picked the guy because the birthdays matched up, the ages matched up. And she said that she, this woman just said she didn't want to talk about her dead son anymore. She said there'd be no point, no point at all. She was just, seems like a sad lady who's now in a nursing home and all her kids are dead. No kidding. That's, poor lady, I feel terrible for.

So what a strange thing. Then, once he gets caught, this is even weirder, all right? Yeah. This is the type of cat we're working with here, with Douglas. He was, he fought the federal government in court over employment insurance benefits after he was arrested again. He had collected employment insurance benefits after being fired from CanTest Limited, a Vancouver laboratory firm where he worked from 92 to 97.

The government later ruled his earnings weren't insurable because he was working under a false identity right after he got caught he appealed that decision and said i still worked no matter what name i did it under i worked exactly even though i was a complete fraud and probably were using your facilities to make meth at night at the same time and on the run i was there also i'm on the lam i'm not who i say all of these things it doesn't matter so he appealed the decision to the tax court of canada represented himself at the trial and won and beat the government somehow can Canada, get it together. Representing himself in a trial where they're literally completely fraudulent and everything.

That is impressive, okay? And they're still like, yeah, he's got a point. That's what I mean. He's a nut. So, yeah, the justice ruled that although he had concealed his identity, he performed legitimate work and the deceit should not negate his ability to collect benefits. That is bonkers. Very impressive. That is fucking amazing.

So back to Garland and all this stuff. Now, Garland, like I said, his sister is married to Alvin, who is Alan's son. I'm sorry. Alan's son, Alvin's son, Alan. Son, Alan. Yeah. He'm sorry. Alan's son, Alvin's son, Alan. Son, Alan. Yeah. Is married to Patty.

Is Patty much younger than Douglas? Because Douglas is older than Alvin, isn't he? Yeah. No, no. Douglas is younger than. Douglas is 10 years, 11 years younger. Oh, you're right. 49.

Okay. Got it. So 59 and 48, I think those two are. So they, I guess, he was close. They all knew each other. This is what's interesting here. Then there's Kathy has a daughter named Jen O'Brien, and they have three sons, Luke, Nathan, and Max. But Garland, though, is described as it seems like a guy who could go in, represent himself and beat the government and all this and go on the run. Seems like he's capable of things.

You know what I mean? I would say so. He's obviously full of shit. So he should be able to get a woman. He should be able to do things like that. Patty said, though, he's a loner, has no friends or romantic relationships his whole adult life pretty much. Sometimes it be's like that. Yeah, I guess so.

You know what I mean? Like geniuses sometimes just they don't be around other people. Well, also, too, we don't know where he might fall on any kind of spectrum. We don't know any of this stuff. If he's into science and he's a chemical guy. We also don't know what fucking kinks he's into. We don't know that. We don't know if he's – there's a lot of possible things here.

Sure. So back to the patent on the pump here in 2007. Alvin filed a patent on it, and the pump never made any money. It never – it wasn't the game changer that he hoped it would be. But Douglas Garland felt cheated anyway because his name didn't get put on the patent. So he felt this guy fucked me over. I worked with him. I helped him develop this.

And then he put his own name on the patent and left me off of it. So, yeah, because what if in the future it makes money? Exactly. So out of the next seven years, he is just seething, stewing over everything. He talks. He won't shut up about his sister. Patty says he constantly talks about this patent. And Patty's like, dude, it never,

it didn't even make any money. It's not like, oh yeah, it went on to be this big thing and he's sitting on an island somewhere and you're fucked. Like he didn't get shit off of it either. Who cares? Let it go. And he, Douglas can't let it go.

Wow. He just can't let it go for some reason. So I don't know why. But he just seethes and seethes so 2014 alvin and kathy they're doing their own thing though they're planning on uh sell they sold their house okay and they're gonna you know it's a bigger house for kids and stuff like that they're gonna do something else here yeah so they have a big estate sale in 2014 from Friday, June 27th to Sunday, June 29th to get rid of as much as possible before they get out of here. They got a new home in Edmonton, and they're going to split time between there and a condo they have in Mexico.

Hell yeah. Yeah, as soon as that first snowflake comes, they're in a condo in Mexico, and then they're coming back. We're on Air Canada down for sale. Alvin's 66, so he's ready to slow down and chill out. And then she's like, shit, I'll hang out in Mexico half the year, so why not? They're hanging out. So they do that. They have that estate sale.

It's a three-day weekend estate sale from June 27th to June 29th. Sunday, June 29th, 2014, that night, after a long weekend of an estate sale and all this type of thing, and the house is sold, so they're moving out. So their daughter, Jen, comes over here.

Jen comes, and this is Kathy's daughter, Jen. She comes over with her five-year-old son, Nathan, and a baby, baby Max, with her. She decided, I'll spend the night while I'm here. Why not? I guess this happens sometimes. She's going to spend the night. But the baby is having a hard time falling asleep.

I don't know if it's the bed. Babies have a very specific situation. So about 10.45, she gives up, Jen, and just goes home and leaves, takes the baby with her home because he's fussy. But Nathan's sleeping already, so leaves Nathan in bed with Kathy. Kathy and Nathan are in bed together, and she'll just come back and get him in the morning. He's already asleep. So there you go. Now, sometime in the middle of the night, somebody came to the house. He's already asleep. So there you go. Now, sometime in the middle of the night,

somebody came to the house. Yeah. An intruder comes in, disables the lock in their house. Oh, not like picks it, not breaks. It doesn't break it, doesn't break it, doesn't use a key, but does some weird shit to it here. It's all a lighthearted nightmare on our podcast. Morbid. We're your hosts. I'm Alina Urquhart. And I'm Ash Kelly. And our show is part true crime, part spooky, and part comedy. The stories we cover are well-researched. He claimed and confessed to officially killing up to 28 people. With a touch of humor. I'd just like to go ahead and say that if there's no band called Malevolent Deity, that is pretty great. A dash of

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She walks in, and she sees there's bloodstains all over the place. Oh, boy. She sees the master bedroom where Alvin was sleeping and the bedroom where Kathy was sleeping with Nathan, which is down the steps to the kitchen. She sees blood everywhere on the walls, all over the place. There's one blood stain on a closet door that looks like it is smeared by a smaller hand. Oh.

So this is getting very scary, obviously, for Jen. So she calls her husband immediately, and she says, My family's been murdered, and he's taken the bodies. That's what she says, and screams into the phone, which, wow. What? That's some kind of way to, holy shit. Nothing's there?

No, no one's there. No one's there. Oh my God. That's the thing. She comes in, the house is empty, but there's blood everywhere. So she calls the police.

She hangs up with her husband, calls the police and, you know, they didn't know what to do. They didn't know if they're, they've obviously, there's some some violence but by the amount of blood places the they think that they're they were taken alive out of here oh doesn't look like there's a lot but not not it's unlivable a bleeding process not there's no bleed out areas okay there's a lot of blood but no bleed out areas

and continuous bleeding so that makes them think that there's blood pumping based on that kind of shit so that's what's going on here obviously it's it's a mess and they it's a huge mystery they've disappeared into a just a bloody how'd you like to be the people who just bought that house yeah great oh oh they're not what happened now they're they're like when do we get the keys and then they get a call that oh hold on a minute here now shit i mean shit you can do whatever you want so they also said that they were hoping as they searched the house investigators they were hoping that nathan was somewhere in the house that he ran and hit or something because that's you find that a lot in situations like this a kid will go run and hide and they won't find be found so but they search everywhere nathan not found anywhere he's

not there no so they issue an amber alert oh yeah and a massive search for these people are go i mean it's a all there's a five-year-old involved here so right that's gotta be the worst thing you could do in terms of uh abducting a family is bring the kid too because yeah everybody i mean you take two 35 year olds there's no amber alert no yeah it's just there's these people are missing they could just be gone they could might have killed each other it might be a sexual thing we have no goddamn idea five years old you take a seven-year-old and everybody's phone pings no that's yeah we all know that we're all we're all looking at the signs above the freeway at that point so the uh police then start collecting dna from the

the homes and uh from her from their home alvin and kathy's home and from jen's home as well to have things to compare to and they said they want to interview a shitload of people as well. They have a huge list of people, but they don't know what to do. So by July 1st, which is the day after the bodies are found, or not bodies are found, but the house is found empty. Yeah, the scene is found. The scene is found. The police say to the press that they have a huge mystery on their hands. They said that the evidence shows that the three family members were taken against their will. The police ask anyone who attended the estate sale to contact them because they're going to find their DNA somewhere, their fingerprints.

They want to clear these people. That's a lot of people. That's the thing. Hundreds of people have come to this. It's a three-day. It happened for three days. So as they search the home for forensic evidence, they find a tooth that they believe could have belonged to Alvin, which is a bad sign. DNA analysis of blood found in the home, including on a set of 45-pound dumbbells in the garage.

Oosh. That's not good. Revealed that it matched all three of them. Oh, no. So there's blood from everybody on these dumbbells which is a bad sign that's yeah that's what they were was used to bludgeon them they believe obviously um police were contacted on july 3rd by senovus energy which is a company that nathan's father rod works for okay and they offer to finance a ransom if anybody comes out and says they want a ransom they say we'll put the fucking money up if you know if that if that's the case if they've been kidnapped for ransom so they said had a ransom demand had

been made the calgary police would have uh they would have had a whole different unit come in because then it would have been a hostage negotiator unit and all that sort of thing. So it would have changed everything. So they took swabs from everywhere and they're waiting for everything. They said at the crime lab, the employees there had the door open when investigators arrived and they were going straight into the lab with these exhibits. This was like priority one grease the fucking fucking tracks, all hands on deck. So they do all of this here. They have an actual suspect list here.

They have a few people. They talk about it. Now, these are all the agencies, by the way. The RCMP, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Canada Border Service Agency, The Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Canada Border Service Agency, Passport Canada, Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, U.S. Homeland Security, and Mexican government officials are all involved in this. Wow. Oh, because they've got property in Mexico. They've got property, and you never know.

Because, yeah, they need to search their home in Mexico to see if there's any clues to anything down there, too. So by the end of the first day, they had a list of six persons of interest that they were really curious about one was and this is always the star of the show was a local sex offender if you if you've ever been a sex offender whenever anything happens within three miles of you you're the first person they talk to let's talk to you you like to take your dick out when you're not supposed to, right? Come on. And you'd think that that would be enough to make people be like, you know what, maybe I should ask for consent. Nope. Not even. It's going to be you're the first person.

I'd love to know, sex offenders, if you're listening. Hope not. But if you happen to be listening, how often have you, yeah, first of all, you don't get this. Not small town murder approved behavior. But before you turn it off and unfollow us on everything, please let us know how many times you've been questioned about local crimes that have happened that you had nothing to do with.

I just, out of curiosity, I want to know. Like, what's the average amount? I hope that even at Halloween when pumpkins are being smashed, they come to your door. That's what I mean. Everything. It's anything. This could have been fucked apart. We don't know. come to your door. That's what I mean. Everything. It's anything. It's could have been fucked apart. We don't know.

We don't know. Yeah, look at it. That's not where that eye hole was. It was smaller. We know that. So the local sex offender, also a man who had shot Alvin's daughter a few years before. Let's actually arrest that person. Definitely. He's already out of jail. Oh, my's actually arrest that person. Definitely.

He's already out of jail. Oh, my God. She didn't kill her. Okay. Yeah, a former house guest that they used to have, two disgruntled former employees of Alvin, and Douglas Garland. Okay.

Fucking yes. Yeah, because he's got the beef about the patent. And he's told everyone he's ever talked to for the last seven years about it. He probably told the cops in the interview. Scumbags, and he hates them, and they deserve to fucking, all this shit. So July 2nd, by then, it is like a national story. Everybody's talking about it. Jen gives a heartfelt plea to the press and says, Nathan, I need you to hear my voice right now. And I need you to know that mommy and daddy love you more than anything in this world.

We know you are. So you're our superhero. And I just need you to stay strong. And we are going to see you. Horrible. Heartbreaking. So July 3rd, about 75 people who attended the estate sale all stopped by at a community hall meeting to talk to police about the sale. They just have everybody show up at once.

We're going to do a big, you know, like a cattle call, basically. Yeah. So they want to determine what items were purchased during the sale compared to what items remained in the home. Because they don't know what was stolen because they just sold tons of their shit, which is a. Yeah. We don't know what was stolen because they just sold tons of their shit which is a yeah we don't know what belongs here the fact that a hundred people have been in the house over the weekend and the fact that a bunch of their shit's been sold just really fucks the whole investigation up because yeah for sure there's a lot of spots where dust collected and something used to be right there yeah and you can't take the daughter into the house and go what's missing tons of shit i don't know what was stolen, what was sold, what was what.

Who knows? Three days worth of sold shit. I have no idea. So the investigation, they collect hundreds of tips from the public. They get also dozens of videos from nearby homes and businesses, ring doorbells and simply safe stuff and the different closed circuit surveillance systems from businesses. So they do all of this. In the first two weeks, they get 1,300 tips from the public as well. Oh, my.

Which is a lot to sift through. Yeah, it's a lot. So because of the volume of it, the updates attached to the original case number caused the police department's computer system to crash. Wow. And they had to assign a second case number to it to hold all the info. Holy shit. So among them was a couple of them that they said the family had been spotted in Hinton, Alberta, a town, which was checked out and that never worked out here.

DNA they found. They said it was all fast-tracked for analysis everything on july 4th which doesn't have a lot of probably probably not a lot going on up there in canada yeah they're just like probably just a normal day july 4th anyway the police announced that they were looking for the driver of a late 80s early 90s green f-150 ford pickup truck in good condition. Okay. Okay, so a 25-year-old pickup truck that's still holding together well. It had been spotted driving around the area several times on the night of the disappearance. Oh.

Video surveillance also captured images of a man skulking around the outside of their home, Alvin and Kathy's home, in the early hours of June 30th, which is when this happened. The truck was later seen heading north along the McLeod Trail in the direction of Airdrie with a white object in the truck box. Oh, OK. Patty Garland, Douglas's sister, said that she'd seen that F-150 before. She said it looks just like the one that's always parked outside my parents' house, which is where my brother lives.

Douglas's truck. Douglas's truck. So Patty said that she heard or that she had her son take pictures of the pickup and then forward them to the Calgary police. Patty, look at you. To see if that was it. Yeah. So July 5th, 2014, dozens of cops come to the house and it is just search is on. They searched the acreage.

They searched everything, everywhere all around. They do end up finding a green truck based on the Patty stuff there. So they're going to bring Douglas in for questioning. Okay. Now, a neighbor of the Garland family describes Douglas as so, a recluse who hardly ever is seen around town. She said, quote, he's lived there 40 years and I've only met him twice. He didn't come up and shake your hand.

I don't know anyone in Airdrie who had anything to do with him. So, yeah, they did say that Garland's parents are friendly people who would describe their son as a real brainiac. But they were concerned about his well-being, you know, because he's being investigated now. So, yeah, he's in there. They take him in and they've crossed off the sex offender, the guy who shot the daughter. All those none of those people worked out. They're all alibied up and everything. So it's just Garland left from their original list here.

So they, like I said, they're still searching and they're looking. They have canines. They're searching everywhere. They're searching also on the Garland property on the farm there. The search on the farm is restricted to areas of the property where the victims might be hidden. They don't have a search warrant, but they can look for if they think people might be in danger there, they can look for them. So that's what they're doing.

Anything more extensive, if they want to go into buildings and really look inside things, got to have a warrant. So the initial search turns up a little bit something suspicious, a duffel bag containing a set of handcuffs, a large knife, and a billy club. Why have those together? You know, the Bundy kit is like, what the hell kind of, who keeps that together? If you have duct tape in there, you're really making something out of it, too. They called it, the police called it his capture kit.

Okay. It hits you and hold a knife to your throat and fucking cuff you up when they arrived at the farm a burn barrel was still smoldering yeah okay i don't like that at all no one of the detectives said myself in my heart i had moved past the idea that we were looking for live bodies on the farm wow we're looking for pieces of people here. So they comb the property here. Garland is formally arrested, but not for this. Oh? Okay.

He's arrested for they found more documents in the name of Matthew Kemper Hartley. Still doing it? He's still doing that name. So they arrest him for identity theft, again, identity fraud or whatever it is. Again, identity fraud or whatever it is. So by July 7th, they're really honing in on this property in his property, the Airdrie property here. Garland is trying to get out of jail on his identity theft charges. They said they have more.

The police say to the media they have more questions than answers about the case. And they said the search will continue until no stone has been left unturned. So they do all they search a landfill on July 9th. July 10th, they continue to search the farm in Airdrie, the farm. It's been a week and a half. They got to comb through everything. It's a farm. So there's tons of stuff here in the evening.

They also that evening, hundreds of people attend a vigil for the family as well. The community reaction, they're all freaked out. They're freaked the fuck out. Everybody is. They say they think the police are doing a good job because there's a lot of them doing stuff, but they're having a hard time. It's a nice neighborhood, and this doesn't make any sense. So the bail, Garland is released on $750 bail on July 11th. He's instructed that he is not to return to his property there where his parents have. He's not allowed to go there because it's being searched.

He has to stay at a local motel or a shelter or somewhere, but he can't stay here. Stay where you want, but he ain't staying here. We don't care where. Yep. So July 12th, they search finally Alvin and Kathy's home the last time, and they're going to turn the home back over to family here. July 3rd, the new owners, I guess. Here you go.

You're going to need a paint job in there. Congratulations on your brand-new crime scene. That's great. Isn't it wonderful? Yeah, there's all sorts of people are going to come at it they're gonna yeah it'll be great look at the little handprints and blood isn't that nice jesus christ so july 13th 2014 here uh garland makes his way back to the home that he's not supposed to go to he goes to his house the farm that they're still searching he's unaware though that he's

being watched the whole time by calgary police they've never let him out of their sight the whole time since he's been out i mean all right they're not gonna so he is tracked finally and arrested as he crawls through a thick wall of trees and undergrowth while a police helicopter circles overhead at two o'clock in the morning. Why would he even do that? He's trying to hide from them. They tracked him down in the undergrowth over here. He had no idea they were watching him? Idiot. Nope. Didn't think they were. So he's

arrested. Now he's going to be charged with triple murder. Oh? They said they're going to charge him with two counts of first degree murder and one count of second degree murder. So they said that the bodies have not been found, but they're pretty sure that this was... Pretty sure you did it.

Yeah. This Amber Alert, by the way, was the longest in Canadian history. It was finally called off when they arrested him. Uh-huh. 11 days? Fuck. Yeah, that's...

The detective said, even as the days went by, there's always a hope, there's always a glimmer of hope, and unfortunately, with the laying of these charges, we've taken that hope away from the family. So they're devastated. Yeah, I would say. The lead detective here said, quote, I can't remember going home from June 30th to July 14th.

Basically, they just worked around the clock on this. 24 hours for two weeks. He said that two weeks of my life were a one long day they would just you know take a couple hours nap in the on a couch in the in the office and get right back to work that's all they had to do here so he said they worked around the clock and they said it wasn't just him it was everybody it was a huge massive thing here um one lady who's a neighbor said i wanted to believe that they had just skipped town. Um, I wanted to believe anything, anything but this.

She said, I just wanted to believe that something like this couldn't happen to good people in a good neighborhood. That's small town murder in a nutshell there. So, yep. Um, they, when they really search his house, they don't find the bodies, but they find things that add up to it. Okay, here's a list of shit at Garland's house. Number one, he's obsessed with them. The Alvin and Kathy. Obsessed with them, and we'll find out exactly why.

He doesn't just want to kill them. He's got plans for them. Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. Here's what they found. Okay. A burn barrel still smoldering they extinguished the fire and sifted through the debris they found bits of bone a tooth a pair of glasses um they said that it took 550 police man hours over the course of 10 months to sift through 120

gallons of ash found on the farm oh dear jesus eventually they found 17 teeth fragments bits of bone a button jewelry and a piece of shackle shackle he left it on him he tore he wanted to torture these people and he had the fuck we'll find out about his little weird fantasies here they found a shoe box that matched bloodstained footprints inside the home, the crime scene. They found Tyvek full body suits, the kind worn by forensic investigators at crime scenes. Killing suits. You might want to put that on before you go kidnap people. Bunny suits, yeah.

Yeah. As well as rubber gloves, chemical gloves, and a rain suit as well. Oh, Jesus. They found size 13 women's shoes, two blonde wigs. So I don't know if he was like a Jerry Brudos type. He was dressing like women to like trying to throw them off. Or if he was trying to disguise himself. Yeah. Yeah.

A straight jacket. That's a big ass shoe. That's fucking, I wear 13s. You put a heel on me? That's a big fucking heel. That's a fucking boat. That's a, I wear 13s. You put a heel on me? That's a big fucking heel. That's a fucking boat. That's a boat heel. Two blonde wigs, a straight jacket, and about 50 adult diapers that were stolen from a local hospital.

What, he's going to fucking, wow. He went to a hospital and stole adult diapers. And was willing to sit there in his own piss and shit until he caught them. Yeah, like that crazy astronaut yeah yeah same shit but this guy's way sicker i think so yeah they also found gun parts silencers and ammunition a charred circuit board to a set of car keys matching the toyota that alvin and kathy had lock picking. See what I mean? Lock picking tools, locks,

padlocks, and blank keys, a half empty bottle of chloroform, chloroform, and a bottle of insulin, which is a decent way to kill people is with insulin. They also found a bottle of our nays, a chemical that can cause DNA breakdown,

spray that on anything. He might've had blood clotting powder, two empty 50 liter canisters of liquid nitrogen. Blood clotting powder like he wanted to like seal their wounds or his own in case he hurt himself. Or who knows. What the fuck, man? Liquid nitrogen. Yeah.

About a dozen handcuffs, including at least one described as quote child sized. What a dick. Leather restraint straps and two whips. That could have been for other purposes. We don't know. Several knives, two meat hooks, and a large hacksaw. What a psycho. One of the meat hooks contained DNA from Kathy,

DNA from Alvin and Nathan were found on the hacksaw. So meat hook Kathy, Alvin and Nathan were found on the hacksaw. So meet Kathy, Alvin and Nathan hacksaw. Other bits of charred flesh were found around the burn barrels with help from a cadaver sniffing police dog named Sully. Good job, Sully. And a boy. Good boy,

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and watching along with part two as it airs on Max, starting April 21st. Bye-bye. The official Jinx podcast. Listen on max or wherever you get your podcasts so also a hard drive hidden away in the joists of the basement so hidden here uh what was found on it was very disturbing um here uh they forensic digital forensic examiner sifted through 112 gigabytes of information on the hard drive, so

112 gigs is a lot of info. Yeah, that's a big thumb drive. And told jurors he found a number of documents about killing. He said some had kill or murder in the title. Well, if you look through my computer, that's where you find it. Way more than that. Way more than that.

Yeah, Zane's got some filthy- what you find. Way more than that. So way more than that. Yeah, Shane's got some filthy ass thumb drives. Oh, so bad. These books include a book called How to Kill Without Joy, which is subtitled The Complete How to Kill Book. How to be numb about fucking killing. That's creepy. A hit man. The Death Dealers Manual, which you need to have here. Yeah. An autopsy manual.

Uh-huh. Lots of photos of men and women in adult diapers and sexual, like, restrained adults in adult diapers. Weird. Which is double fetish. That's like, I like restraints and bondage, but I also want shit in their pants at the same time, which I don't know how those diagrams cross. It's almost like a baby fetish, too. There's several fetishes that you can lay down on.

There's a bunch of weird stuff going on there. And also a lot of photos of Kathy. Oh. Oh, yeah. Also documents relating to Alvin's business and patents, including the one he took out on the pump field, the oil field pump. There was also a folder titled Gore, and it just contained 87 photos of dead and dismembered people and body parts. Okay.

So they were able to search his Google history also. That's going to be fun. Yeah. Whew. Okay. his google history also that's gonna be fun yeah whoo okay um they were all searches they had uh details that he searched for about their estate sale about personal information about alvin and kathy searches regarding amputations and autopsies uh quote most painful human torture what the fuck? Human dissection, bone grinder, blood removal solution. What?

And among other shit that you shouldn't be searching within days of people disappearing. Yeah. Also, information regarding the same kind of lock that Alvin and Kathy had on their home and how to disable it ahead of time. Jesus Christ, man. home and how to disable it ahead of time jesus christ man uh also they came across here at 9 23 a.m on the morning of july 1st a small this is the the killer here a small airplane belonging to an aerial surveying company was flying over airdream mapping the town and two other small areas just doing those things snapping photos every three seconds just click click click as they go just automatically it happened to snap the fucking headshot of a evidence piece here

which completely screws douglas here the photo showed the farm the cars lined up with the truck and three fucking dead bodies lying face down on the ground near the sheds on the south side of the main house. Wow. They took a fucking aerial picture of him before as he was just going to dismember the bodies. Unbelievable. Two are clearly adults, naked except for some kind of white something wrapped around their waist. Like an adult diaper? Yes. What the fuck?

One is believed to be about 6'2", the other 5'5". They also said that the bodies may have been decapitated. Oh my God. And the third body is much smaller, as we know. One body, the small one, seems to be curled up on its uh on its side and um yeah it's it's horrible the plane's pilot testified that when he flew over the farm again 26 hours later the photos he took then which we have showed the bodies weren't there anymore no more bodies no more bodies so during the trial garland never he pleads not guilty he won't speak and he just

hunches over in a seat and looks looks like the type of creep who would be exactly guilty of this shit. Super caught. Super busted and just, I mean, try not to look like the type of creep who would take a child into adults and torture them and put diapers on them and shit and then cut them up on your farm. Just try. Just give it a fucking shot. Give it a whirl. Give it a whirl. Give it a whirl here. So Alan testifies.

He is Alvin's son, Kathy's stepson, and Doug's brother-in-law. Okay, yeah. He's the one married to Patty here. And, yeah, he's the sole member of the family that's, like, related to Douglas Garland in any way. Not at all. Everybody else just kind of backs away from him a little bit. Yeah, he does all of that.

He says that he knows there's a lot of curiosity. He talks to the press and he says, look, I get that I am a center of a lot of curiosity here. I'm like his son. I'm related to it. It's super weird. I get it. But yeah, he tried to do that.

They said that it comes to and has no surprise. This is from a newspaper article that Patty, who took down her family photo filled Facebook page hours after her brother was first identified as a person of interest in the case. Yeah. You ruined my social media, too. You asshole. I had 800 friends. You did. Holy shit.

Ruined it. So relatives take the stand for the prosecution. They said that over the 2013 holidays, you know, the Christmas before this happened, Doug was really acting weird. He told her that Alvin had stolen some of his property, so he was going to call the police. That's what they said. Patty said it had been so long. She was like, I don't know why he was still stewing over this years later she said his inability to let it go drove a wedge between us

even me and my brother because that's all he talked about it was constant so they said that for the next few months whenever she went to her parents house where he lived she only would say hello to him and didn't want to really talk to him anymore so it's man this poor lady has to feel like shit too i can't imagine this obviously two families yeah yeah it's i mean everybody here there's no good outcome for anybody here i feel horrible for poor rod and jen they lost their you know parents in-laws and son like that's that's brutal so they basically paint a portrait um his parents testify they paint a portrait of Doug. There's a man who has no friends, no relationships, no romance, nothing like that, and didn't really talk to anybody about his private thoughts. No one knew what the hell he was thinking or doing ever. just a yeah um so his mom says quote well he's my son i love him and i've always loved him i think he's an unhappy man i'd say so yeah his parents are archie and doreen and they're 86 and 83 when they're testifying jesus christ um they said they went through his his deal saying that

he broke down at the university of alberta of that. They said the day after everybody went missing to Alvin, Kathy and Nathan Douglas missed his weekly appointment with a psychiatrist the next day. So they said they saw him on the night of June 30th and then they heard him in the shower on the morning of July 1st. And, um, yeah.

So she said she would have known if douglas had left the night of june 30th when the three went missing and if he'd come back because her bedroom has a view of the driveway and road yeah so yeah she said um also she woke up one morning to discover a good samaritan had cleared her driveway after a heavy snowfall and she said we never heard a thing her driveway after a heavy snowfall and she said we never heard a thing um so maybe he did come and go is basically yeah no fucking idea there was a snowblower blowing out there jesus she's an 83 year old woman who was like i absolutely know everything that happens around my house you you not off once in a while let's be honest a snowblower i mean yeah the jurors are shown quite graphic photos from the hard drive there.

Disturbing shit that we just told you about. Graphic all sorts of shit here. A lot of pictures of men and women in adult diapers bound with handcuffs and other restraints. That's what he's into. That's what he's into here. Yeah. So they said the one guy who found all this, the police officer, said there were a number of documents about killing that I found on this hard drive killer murder in the title and then went on to name the folders, all sorts of pictures of dismembered dead or dead or dismembered individuals. They said the folder was accessed on July 1st, 2014 last. So after this happened, it was accessed.

So they said there were pictures and videos of all of this of that nature. These pictures would have been accessed in the month of June 2014. The other files included one called patents, which contains 665 documents related to patents. Locksmith folder, which contained what was called quite a few documents pertaining to locksmithing and lockpicking, security system alarms, handcuffs, and tasers. A lot of those had to do with the Schlage BE-365 lock, which is what Allen and Cathy had on their house. So they had all that kind of shit here. They also got to uh um in the closing arguments here okay the defense said quote there's no evidence to link trip to link this together

with him just not i don't know what you got you people are way off guard way offline out of range yes he's a weirdo none of none of this weird shit matters i mean yeah he's got diapers and then things and weird stuff like that. But I mean, we don't have evidence other than, you know, their jewelry and bone fragments and flesh pieces. Who has evidence here? They said the last photo ever taken of them and a photo of them dead in his yard. There's no evidence. she said this is her attorney his attorney kim ross said quote what happened on the farm that does not prove to you that douglas garland caused the deaths of alvin kathy and nathan no he just found the body somewhere and brought him to his house and put him in diapers and she dismembered them parsing words with yeah he was in he was in possession of bodies but doesn't he did it she said they cannot forensically or scientifically put douglas garland in their address so you can't say that he came and took them because he wore fucking three you know dna proof suits over there you can't prove it well we can infer it pretty

well by the fact that they were fucking dead at his house how do you get them i think they just showed up like that and diapers hey we're all here in diapers like asked. How's it going? So they said that the theory from the prosecution that they were kidnapped from the residence and taken to the property and killed was just not supported by the evidence. She said, quote, It's just not what happened. The prosecution said only carried out a meticulously planned kidnapping of them and also added Nathan because he was there because he found him there, killed him on the farm. And it's pretty goddamn obvious. Took him through months of computer searches day by day of this is when he was searching for this.

You can see it building up. And they said, quote, this is as close as you can get when they show the photos of the bodies. He said, this is as close as you can get, ladies and gentlemen, to an autopsy photo in this case is this. So it's wild. They said that he went from fantasy to reality and carrying out his plot. And they found pieces of DNA, hacksaw, meat hooks with their DNA all over it. It's pretty goddamn damning. They said Garland was caught running and crawling through grass and trees,

determined to get back on the farm, probably trying to get rid of evidence that they already found, I would assume. So the verdict comes in here, takes the jury eight and a half hours on this somehow. Wow. I don't know if they're just taking it easy, if they played a game of hockey in between and some curling. It feels like they maybe looked at every goddamn piece of evidence they had. I don't know. It would probably take about eight hours.

I guess so. If you look through all that, they're just like, let's look at those pictures again. That shit was weird, right? What they found on his computer. I can't believe that random ass plane took a picture of that. That's insane. That's shocking. It's the most incredible coincidence of criminal history.

He probably had to just be like, you have to be fucking kidding me. A small plane just heard going over. He never looked up twice. Crop duster, small plane. Who knows what the fuck it is. Nope, that's your doom right there is what that is. That is fucking up your whole murder plot.

God damn it. So they return a verdict of guilty verdict of guilty and um during sentencing they say here's the uh victim impact they hear from relatives of everybody including rod and jennifer o'brien who jennifer is kathy's daughter and nathan's mother rod who is nathan's father said no matter what the judge decides that garland will have to answer to a higher court he said a life sentence on this earth is nothing compared to what waits for you and uh they said anything to say here for you mr garland and he says nope oh nope no regret no

remorse no sorry about that nothing but the defense lawyer said that since all the killings occurred during a single criminal act, that there should never be consecutive terms of parole ineligibility. You don't need to do that. She said he should be put in prison for life without parole for 25 years and then they can deal with them after that. can deal with them after that. They said the life term would give parole officers discretion to release Garland if he became infirmed as he reached old age. That way they wouldn't have to pay for him. See, we're trying to help you. Really, it's worth. This isn't about trying to get him out of jail. This is about helping the state. He also said that he's at Garland's a loner with no one to support him. The lawyer said there are really no friends or family. Mr. Garland is essentially on his own. The prosecutor said, quote, each victim was apparently murdered for a slightly different purpose. This was a brutal crime of stark horror. Wow, that's a good title.

A brutal crime of stark horror. You not only have death, you have torture, inhuman behavior. These acts display a character of evil. You can't rehabilitate evil. Truth. This guy needs to not come out at all. Can't let him back out. The judge said, quote, torture and murder mr garland you have done a terrible thing that's not a good way to start you have done a terrible thing the horror and terror that you visited upon these three innocent people extends almost beyond the boundaries of ordinary human comprehension the circumstances

defy description and your ultimate punishment is beyond the reach of this court oh but what i can do is say you sir may fuck off life with no parole but for 75 years he tripled it he told them 25 for each consecutively banged you that way fuck off so that is he's 50 years old he's done i mean he's gonna be 130 years old when he gets out so totally screwed he'll be 129 years old when he's up for parole 2017 good news people keep kicking the shit out of him in prison for some reason is that right wonder why gee i wonder you meat hooked a five- year old. Wonder why they'd want to beat the fuck out of you. Totally. Yeah, he's getting found all over the place.

It's found unresponsive constantly because he's been beaten into unconsciousness. I love it. He was found this day in 2017, unresponsive, but breathing in his cell after being beaten unconscious. However, the extent of his injuries are unknown at this point in time. On the morning of the day he was beaten, Garland had been transferred from the Calgary Romand Center to the Edmonton Maximum Institution. Day one, he's beaten unresponsive. This isn't the first time this happened, too. On the same day he was sentenced,

he was attacked by several inmates and had to be treated in the hospital for multiple lacerations because as soon the day he was sentenced they kicked the shit out of him is it like word gets back to the prisoners of what he's what he's done or is it just they know is he a mouth famous no no he doesn't talk to anybody he's famous they just beat the shit out of him everybody's going oh my god he's the grossest guy in here yeah he tortured and fucking dismembered a five-year-old you can't get this is fucking crazy oh he's a sick fuck so yeah 2019 he appeals his conviction

and the alberta court of appeal said go fuck yourself yeah conviction stays 2020 he appeals his sentence the alberta's top court hears arguments from his lawyers appealing life sentences with no chance of parole for 75 years. His lawyers argue that the three consecutive parole ineligibilities is excessive and harsh. Really? You're going to use harsh as a word after what he did? He said the victim impact statements exceeded the scope of what's allowed under criminal code. There's a shackle in a burn barrel. Come on, dude.

You. Yeah, I'm sorry. But this is you. You made these people live out your weird sexual fantasies and you fucking tortured them and you killed them. And then you this is the judge said it perfectly. I think everything the judge said was on point they said that the this defense layer though says that the judge imposed a vengeful sentence that weighted certain principles of sentencing more heavily than others wow um the prosecutor said the sentence was appropriate because there was no need to

incorporate nathan into his plan right if he killed the two adults it's one thing but bringing the kid into it fuck you yeah. He took extra pleasure in this. He put some extra stank on it there. So the court of appeals upholds the sentence for him. But it's a two to one decision. So the majority said that, quote, the trial judge did not consider any irrelevant factors and did not fail to consider any relevant factor. not consider any irrelevant factors and did not fail to consider any relevant factor. But the problem is that because of the split decision, he can automatically appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada.

OK, so that's on the way. So you never know. Hopefully he'll stay in there because this guy doesn't need to walk around in any country. Fuck him. That's one of the worst crimes I've ever heard of. We should just tie this guy to a let's make it nice and Canadian. Let's tie him to a net. Tie him to a hockey goal

and have slap shots at Adam until his balls explode or something. Like, make it creative, Canada. Tie him to a maple tree and... Let beavers gnaw off his nutsack. And just drill a hole and let that maple drizzle out until a bear or something just gnaws everything off of them.

Until Winnie the Pooh comes around. Yeah. Horrible human being. There you go, everybody. That is Canada. Jesus, Canada. Man, that is no joke, Canada. I'll tell you what.

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