Small Town Murder - #442 - The Social Media Loving Cannibal - Joppatowne, Maryland

Episode Date: November 25, 2023

This week, in Joppatowne, Maryland, a college student begins to display some very strange, and concerning behavior, violently attacking a fellow student, and making some of the weirdest social media posts, ever. This escalates quickly, and before you know it, someone is dead. Not only dead, but dismembered, and partially eaten. The explanation for his grisly, and disturbing actions were just as strange as the actual act!Along the way, we find out that most things in Maryland are "near Baltimore", that strange Facebook posts can actually be a giant red flag, and that fingers are apparently much harder to eat, than brains!!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're listening early and ad-free on Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, everybody, and welcome back to Small Town Murder Express. Yeah, and choo-choo. yay indeed jimmy yay indeed my name is james petra gallo i'm here with my co-host i'm jimmy wissman thank you folks so much for joining us on another one this is a crazy ass episode by the way you buckle up for this one this is this is this might be the craziest episode since the guy on the bus in canada remember that episode the guy on the bus in Canada. Remember that episode? Oh, boy. The guy on the bus and all.

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Let's do this, Jimmy. What do you say, everybody? Let's go on a trip, shall we? Okay. This week we're going to Joppatown, Maryland. Joppatown. Joppatown. I don't know if it's Yoppa or Joppa.

J-O-P-P-A-T-O-N-E or T-O-W-N-E, town. So Joppa, yeah, Joppa Town, Maryland. They say it's Joppa. There's Joppa Town. There's two different places, but it's confusing. Either way, it's about a half hour outside of Baltimore. That's what we're talking about. About an hour 15 to Lothian or Lothian or whatever it was.

That was our last episode we did in Maryland, which was Lust, Blood, Cruelty and Snakes. The name of that one. I remember that. The snakes were weird. Population of this town, 12,992. Very small. It just sits outside Baltimore, just hanging out there. Median household income here is high, $97,887.

Why? It's a nice area because it's like suburbs. You'd live out. This is like living out here, so you're not in the city, but you can probably work in the city and make good money. Median home price here is $299,300, so below the national average. That's terrific. So it's not a bad combination here. Quickly here, history.

There was three towns in the area where this town was originally. It kind of all merged into this town. First, it was Gunpowder Town, a town called Gunpowder Town. Then Foster's Neck, then Joppa, and they smashed them all together and made this town. Gunpowder Town, which everyone just called Gunpowder, was a failed English settlement. And it was the first attempt to establish an English settlement on the Gunpowder River. And it was abandoned because it was a shit location. They couldn't get anything going there.

Really didn't work out too well. The area where the town is now where formerly stood was used as farmland and uh mostly string beans until 1961 and then it was acquired by the panitz company which began development and the surrounding planned communities for joppa town which is suburbs they just built suburbs they figured that out um so here's five stars five stars joppa town is a quint the quintessential american town it's the perfect suburb safe and great for all types of people so they love it perfect yeah perfect couldn't be better five stars here's four stars weather is appropriate for all seasons what the fuck appropriate it's

warm in the summer it's cold in the winter. Appropriate weather, I suppose. Why even bother with that? We get it. It's Maryland. Who doesn't know the climate of Maryland? We get it. Yeah, we understand.

Chilly in the winter, warm in the summer. Three stars. It's a beautiful place to raise a family because it is a family-friendly town with a park and a football field. All right. There's a lot of kids that love to play sports with each other. I think that's everywhere probably. With each other. Even though you're new to the place, people will accept you for you.

There are public events that happen and everyone joins in to help the community out. We loved the make Joppa Town look nice by placing flowers all over the town. We love that they, I think, is what he was trying to say. The schools are very caring about the people that come and go. All public places help students or family out with work or school so we can thrive because we are my town, your town, our town, one town. Holy shit. That's only a Town, One Town. Okay. Holy shit. That's only a three-star review.

Wow. I mean, he ended it. What more do you want? He ended it with like a political rally. So we can thrive because we are My Town, Your Town, Our Town. Say it with me now. One Town. Thank you very much, everybody.

And he fucking took off. This is wild. Vote Peterson. Yeah. Vote Peterson. And he fucking took off. This is wild. Vote Peterson. Yeah, vote Peterson. All right. Three stars. Pretty close to the water. Very loud thunderstorms.

What? Yes. What the fuck are you talking about? Loud thunder. Like thunder is louder here than in other places. Seems to really echo. I don't know what it is. Two stars. It's hard to find a good boss to work

for many are immature and self-centered this is about one person yeah they got fired from their job they reviewed the company poorly and then we're like who else can i tell about this i know i'll blame it on the town um one star here. They say since the pandemic and the new influx of people, including the ones who have lived here their entire life, this is one of the worst places I've ever lived. The people are angry. There is high crime from the neighboring Edgewood area, and the sheriff's office tries to help but is overwhelmed by the, quote, little Baltimore, as it's referred to by the locals. Okay. Little Baltimore, as it's referred to by the locals. Overall, I regret spending more than two years here and would recommend this to be a stop in your life. I would not recommend this to be a stop in your life.

A short one if you're able to get out of it. And then one star, there are no attractions at all, ever. Ever. Ever. It's like every sports team is 20 minutes that way, so enjoy. Baltimore, man. Yeah. Things to do. D, so enjoy. Baltimore, man. Yeah.

Things to do. D.C. is there, too. There's a lot of stuff going on that you're within a range of. Things to do. The Slavic Heritage Festival is here. What? Oh, yeah. Let's get into some Slavic heritage.

Join us for this fun festive annual event celebrating Polish, Slovak, Ukrainian, Czech, Bulgarian, Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Slovenian, Macedonian, Belarusian, Montaguean, and Lemko cultures. Nary a smile to be found. Yeah, a lot of angry, very angry people here. A lot of terreshes here. A lot of guys like my driver, just very stoic angry. Lots of frowns and straight faces. Yeah, a lot of that kind of thing.

Very, the hearty people that'll be. This event will take place on the beautiful wooded ground of St. Mary's Assumption Eastern Rite Church. They're going to have a parade of flags, Slavic dance and music performances. Oh. Live music, which they won't tell us about what it is, but I assume it's like Slavic bands of some kind. Yeah, it's going to be things. Yeah. I'd like to see a Slavic metal band, I think.

That'd be pretty cool. I don't think that's going to traditional Slavic. Probably not. No. There's this one band just called the Belarusian Bop, and it's like a 50s band. It's probably a lot of wind instruments. Yeah, a lot of that. It's like a 50s band. It's probably a lot of wind instruments.

Yeah, a lot of that. Traditional Slavic food and drinks, vendors, artisans, arts and crafts, games, raffles, a beer garden, fun for the whole family. And then at the end, they make sure to tell you this because you don't want to drive people away. You need not be Slavic to enjoy this fantastic event. Everyone is invited and welcome. And welcome. Not only are you tolerated. Come not smile with us. Yeah, come in. Don't look like you're having too good of a time though we've all been through a lot

none of these countries have a very easy history they're all a lot of strife going on there's been like there's like eight fucking hundred civil wars between these 12 countries they named here so i see a lot of very strong men swinging fucking hammers. Yeah, yeah. That's the competition. Who can swing a hammer the hardest? That's one of the games they play there. They say games, raffles. That's it.

There you go. That said, let's talk about a murder here. Let's do it. And one of the most strange, brutal, odd, weird fucking murders we're ever going to talk about. So let's go back not too far in time to 2012 okay yeah so i mean pretty much exactly the same as now like your life your life is your your you have an iphone or an android and you have instagram was out and you know facebook and all that kind of thing yeah so it's all pretty similar let's talk about Alexander Kinyua, K-I-N-Y-U-A. Alex, he goes by. He's 21 years old. He is originally from Kenya, Alex is. Oh.

thing his parents are pretty smart we'll talk about this his parents are antony and beatrice and um they've been here since like i said since he was a child he went to lock raven high school and then joppa town high school where he graduated and um his senior yearbook picture he's a well well-groomed dude little tiny bit of a little chin stubble coming out. Goatee. Good for you. Yeah, just chilling. So he ends up going to Morgan State University. Where's that? Here. It's in Baltimore, Morgan State. Oh, okay. So he goes there.

It's a historically black college. He goes to that one. He's an engineering student there. Hell yeah. With a 3.8 GPA as well. Jesus. So that's a smart guy. He's doing it.

Engineering is fucking hard hard and the school is like it's hard it's intense it's intense yeah it's a lot so he's doing that his father's a professor at the school as well a professor and a part-time lecturer in the physics department jesus so this is a smart family dad knows about physics and he's an engineering student. This is like a lot of physics flying around, a lot of math, a lot of shit like that. So he lives in a house with his parents at this point in time. We'll find out why he doesn't live on campus because he did for a while. He lives with his parents. He's got a brother and sister. And he also is staying in the house from December 2011 on is a man named Kujo Agui Cody.

Agui, I think. Yeah. Kujo is K-U-Jo. J-O? J-O-E. Oh, Kujo. Wow. It might be Kujo-y, but Kujo Agui Cody.

K-O-D-I-E. Jesus. agai kodi k-o-d-i-e so uh kujo's 37 at the time and he moved into this family's house in about december of 2011 he's also a former teacher a former student and that sort of a thing now back to alex here um one of his teachers said called him a docile student just really in the book huh not really causing really causing trouble, not, you know, not boisterous. Just, yeah. His teacher said he was always smiling. Alex was.

He was in the electrical and computer engineering department. That's where this teacher worked. And he said that Alex used to visit his office for career advice and to chat. He said, quote, he really cared about his schoolwork and looked like he wanted to seek good role models. He was looking for a mentor, basically. Yeah. Looking for mentors to help him out with his career path.

And, you know, this person, he might be somebody that would know that sort of thing. So that's good. That's nice. December 12th, 2011. There's some pictures here showing him showing Alex very happy and smiling. He's got this jacket on that is for the National Society of Pershing Rifles, which is a fraternity inside of an ROTC unit for Morgan State. Wow.

So Morgan State has an ROTC program. Inside of that program, there's fraternities he is in this one so that's the jacket he's wearing like the the the the guys that march with rifles and like show i don't that's rotc does stuff like that yeah because that's like a you know it's like free army and shit yeah yeah all that stuff i think that's what they do there he also once hosted a radio show alex did called warrior syndicate radio so he hosted that and um he according to him he said on the show that the show was quote for warriors skilled in combat or warfare coming together to form a syndicate learn a syndicate learning portal for warrior clans i don't know what the fuck that

means i don't know what the fuck that means but that sounds very like sword and shield type of shit that sounds like you know of like a viking ship yeah you get off a viking ship there's a there's a warrior clan we must fight and you know genghis khan would come from somewhere and it's weird so um for the image for this, for the picture for Warrior Syndicate Internet radio show, he had a picture of himself in face paint. And the introduction said, prepare yourself for a demanding and long term engagement in the coming age. If there is to be any hope for positive outcome in the current environment. Wow. That's what he wrote so this is a guy that has a 3.8 gpa he's concerned with like yeah end of days type of shit yeah he seems to be seems to be rooting for it as a matter of fact as we'll find out here um he all over social media too as we'll

talk about his social media is he sounds exhausting he's not the guy you want to follow on twitter put it that way because it is a lot at one point here in december he is it's december 10th he's accused of punching a hole in the wall of a campus rotc office how old is he he's 21 yeah at this point that's yeah they have a little anger in them, so 21-year-olds in general. But the police report of the incident said that between 9 and 10 a.m., he punched multiple holes in the walls of a computer lab in the Turner Armory, and then he stapled a poster up to cover the damage. He also broke a picture frame. He just grabbed a poster and was like, put that over that. No one will notice.

Like he's escaping from prison in a bad movie, you know? Yeah. A little Raquel Welch. Giant tunnel behind it that leads seven miles to safety and it's just a poster. Yeah. Oh, my God. So he did that. I guess the staff sergeant said he confronted Alex and then he called the police. The staff sergeant described him as an as an angry person and said that himself, that student at the time when he called the police, he said Alex also hasn't has inflicted himself with burn marks on his arm.

What is happening? He's burned his arm up as well. And when the teacher asked him about it, the staff sergeant asked him about it. Alex described them as tribal markings that he just made. Oh, he's made. That he just felt like burning into himself at the moment. Oh. So they're like, okay.

Sure. Why? Yeah, that's what's interesting. Another one of his military instructors said that he was an unusually angry person and his instructor called him, quote, a Virginia Tech waiting to happen. Jesus. That's grim. If you don't know, before 2012, there was a huge shooting on the Virginia Tech campus. I think 36 people were killed.

I'm pretty sure it was the worst shooting ever. It was a horrible shooting. So that's what he called him. So if someone's a Virginia Tech waiting to happen, that's not great to have around. Alex was not criminally charged for the wall punching incident, though. He was cited for destruction of campus property and returned to campus after meeting with the school's chief judiciary officer. I'd love to know why he's so mad. That's what's, yeah.

We can't figure it out because he goes from being docile to being very angry very quickly. Like something seems to snap in him here. They're deemed tribal markings, like he said, the marks on his arm, and they asked him about that too. And they were like, well, I guess if you really want to have tribal markings, we can't really tell you not to. Yeah. Yeah. They said, though, that when the one instructor told the judiciary guy that he is a Virginia Tech waiting to happen, that's why they were doing this review. They said that he was terminated from the ROTC program at this point.

And they had two cadets escort him to his locker and then out the door. They didn't even want him, him like on his own in there. He was. Yeah. They said they they spoke to him and he was in reference to any emotional or psychological issues. And the report of the wall punching said he said that he punched the walls due to stress caused by finances and personal problems that are beyond his control. OK. So he's frustrated with the world. Yeah. And are beyond his control. Okay. So he's frustrated with the world.

Yeah. He's having problems. And what's come to him. Yeah. Yep. They concluded that he did not require an emergency mental evaluation. Really? The officers. Yes.

They concluded that he might just be stressed out, but he's not like, you know, lock this guy up, straightjacket kind of shit. In 2011, we were all pretty mad. Everybody was a little upset. People have been angry for a long time. Yeah. So other people, students, then told stories of weird behavior, including just casually talking about human sacrifices all the time. What?

Which isn't normal behavior. So then January 31st, 2012, he is at an anti-hazing forum here. Okay. He goes to that to contribute, I guess. All he does is walk around talking about human sacrifice the whole time, though. So that's odd. a human sacrifice the whole time though so that's odd um they said in the school's video of the event he's bearded and has glasses on dressed in a blue jacket and a big silver necklace and he's introducing himself to people by his full name full first middle last name wow not just alex

they said his remarks are a little odd but but he asks about, quote, collaborating more as it comes to university shootings. He said, I hear a lot about hazing, but my question is about protecting kids. It's about protecting kids, not kids, but young men and women from university violence. Virginia Tech was something very controversial. That's what he said. That's what he keeps talking about. Students can be heard. He gets on the mic and says this.

Wow. And they said kids can be heard like kind of laughing and like kind of like what the hell is this guy talking about? Then he refers to a notebook and asks if the university could develop an off-campus hazing policy referring to blood sacrifices. What's the university's blood sacrifice policy because it says we're not supposed to haze i see a lot about rape in here but i don't see i see very little about blood sacrifices and that's really what we should be concerned about blood sacrifices he's on the microphone saying this i've never heard okay serious like like we really need to work out a program to

deal with blood sacrifices obviously and people are like the fuck is this guy talking about when do we have one he said blood sacrifices i just want to inform people because most people are unaware of it i mean yeah because it mostly never happens this is about hazing this is a fucking hazing event to make sure. We just don't want the football team putting pencils in each other's assholes. That's it. I was going to say, we just want the linebackers to stop sticking things up the new running backs asshole. That's all we're trying to do here.

That's what hazing is. Or, you know, whatever. Bullying, I don't know, fraternity stuff, sorority shit, whatever they do. Yeah, standing on a roof and throwing cinder blocks off the roof with your dick tied to it. Hitting them on the ass with things. Yeah, right. Make them eat shit or whatever the fuck these idiots do. Whatever they do.

Or make them drink crazy amounts of alcohol. Blood sacrifices. I was not aware that that was something to be concerned about. Yeah, very few of those happening. Yeah, everybody described the comments as more bizarre than frightening. Yeah. They weren't really scared. They were just like, is that dude all right like should we talk to him they said though but nobody there even the people the judicial officer was that was familiar with him from the rotc incident was even there and none of them did anything about it they didn't like maybe we should

talk to him again no they were like whatever um his facebook page and we should talk to him again. No, they're like, whatever. His Facebook page. And we'll talk about this in his Twitter account. They just all sorts of references to Virginia Tech. A lot of death cult references, blood sacrifice, shit, stuff like that. Gets weird. His he's scattered all over the place. They said his mainly his Internet presence on social media seemed to focus on military documents that he wanted to see videos, quote, videos depicting fighting. So world star.

Yeah. You know, dumb shit like that. Yeah. And general appreciation of violence and disorder is how they described it. OK. Many of his tweets also are not coherent at all. They're all like it's shit that makes sense in his brain. But yeah, no one else has the reference to it, so they don't know what he's referring to. He tweeted at one point, well, not at one point.

He tweeted hundreds of times the same exact phrase over and over. What is it? Come hell or high water, four exclamation points, keep on keeping on, three exclamation points. He tweeted that hundreds of times hundreds of times come hell or high water keep on keeping on keep trucking brother that's what is he this 1975 i have no i keep on keeping on brother oh i sure will buddy i'll see you at the doobie brothers show you know it buddy if not the allman brothers the next month buddy that's right what the fuck are you talking about? Come hell or high water.

Keep on keeping on. So is he Matthew McConaughey? That's who sounds like made that post. If he said keep on keeping on, I would go, yeah, that's about right for him. He doesn't sign off Lincoln commercials with that. Yeah. Weird. His social media

accounts, it would be quiet for a couple days and then one point he tweeted over 200 times in one day. Really? In a day. That's a lot of tweets in a day. Not even arguing with anybody. No, not even a back, just posting shit. Weird shit.

Yeah, he had a YouTube also and a Scribd account as well. And in a Scribd account they, it shows a big fascination with weapons. One document instructed readers on the proper way to use a rifle sling. So some of it was like instructional and then some of it was just like, this is fucking cool. You know what I mean? One of them here, a second document, they said, co-opted from the headquarters department of the army was meant to teach soldiers how to best conduct an urban assault. He also posted a how-to guide for maintaining the M16A1 rifle. Yeah.

Because everybody needs that guide there. So he was just reposting military documents of like, hey, this is how you do this. How to clean the M16 or what is is it or just how to use it how do you it's how to maintain the m16 a1 yeah so he said on uh he there was a video entitled black gods attack and he commented i just made my own quote no bastard ever won a war by dying for his gods and goddesses he won it by making the other poor bastard die for his gods and goddesses. Ten million plus years. What the fuck?

Three exclamation points. What the fuck is proper? I don't know what the fuck. I'd love to know what the fuck, bro. It's very wordy. I don't think anybody's going to use it, man. It's a little wordy. I made my own quote.

It's not real catchy. Yeah, everyone's going to use it, man. It's a little wordy. Yeah, it's not catchy. I made my own quote. It's not real catchy. Yeah, everyone's going to say, oh, as Alex once said, no bastard ever won a war by dying for his gods and goddesses. In May of 1980, near Anaheim, California, Dorothy Jane Scott noticed her friend had an inflamed red wound on his arm and seemed unwell. She insisted on driving him to the local hospital to get treatment. While he waited for his prescription, Dorothy went to grab her car to pick him up at the exit, but would never be seen alive again, leaving us to wonder, decades later,

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Here's the message from the QR code. Project Crack Code, countering the destruction of the human family. Spread the message of creation support. Crack team, stay tuned for more information on survival of the human family. What the strategy and methods to counter the survival of the human family what the strategy and methods to counter the destruction of the black family all ideas suggestions comments etc will be appreciated for project crack the code i don't know i don't know what you're talking about sir how many followers does he have nobody's saying nope Nobody's saying. No. They're probably just not.

Those are accounts that aren't even on Twitter. I would think once you tweet 200 times in a day, you're going to really thin out your herd probably as far as followers go. Probably slow people down. Go ahead and block this guy. Follow-up minimum. Yeah. May 17, 2002. He posts some shit on his Facebook page, and it says this.

Hear me out,bc youers that's historically black college and university errs are you strong enough all caps by the way all these are all caps yeah are you strong enough to endure ritual hbcu mass human sacrifices around the country and still be able to function as human beings? Uh-huh. Huh? Are you strong enough to endure ritual mass human sacrifices around the country and still be able to function as human beings? That's the question.

Like he wants us to watch them? Are you strong enough to know that these colleges are having mass human sacrifices all around the country? That's what he's saying. You're just doing your day. Yeah. It's been all too tragic with the dual university shootings at Virginia Tech and other past university killings across the country. Now for a twist. Ethnic cleansing is the policy, the strategy and tactics that will affect you directly or indirectly in the coming

months. This is the brutal basis, an evil and terrifying method of this death cults. That's what he said. Any of that make any sense to you? You getting any of that? The thing is, it didn't make sense to anybody because it was a bunch of shit that was going on in his head that he's like, I put it all in one thought. And it's like, none of those things have connections.

None of those things go. What's going on? It ends with a poll that has no fucking connection to the statement. And nobody, but it had no, it wasn't like, how do you feel? It was like something totally different on the same post. Then another post was just the image of the Predator from the Predator movie. Awesome. Just him. That was from the Predator movie. Awesome. Just him.

Good character. Yeah, it's a great character. If he bleeds, we can kill him. I mean, Christ. So then two days after he posts that, he's quiet. There's no action for two days. Yeah. Then his mother posts on her Facebook.

Our son, Alex Kimanthi-Kenua, was arrested on Saturday, May 19th, for being involved in a fight in his dormitory room at Morgan State University. The charge against him is first-degree assault and excessive endangerment of life. His bail has been set at $220,000. In order to get him the best defense possible, we need to secure an attorney who will take his case and leave no stone unturned. So, we'll find out what he did in a second here students that know him at the time said he was well known around campus but regarded as an odd bird like people kind of kept their distance jasmine bloomfield said uh he was quote always in his own little world preaching everywhere he went and talking about how he was writing a book so So that shit he said on Facebook, he would say that shit just to people out loud.

And they'd be like, OK. And, you know, wait till you read the book. Yeah. Another girl named Natalie is 21 who had mutual friends with him, said his behavior was often strange and he was prone to outbursts. But also he showed genuine concern for others as well she said if anything ever happened to me he'd be like who did it and why he always wanted to protect people from bad stuff now one person he didn't want to protect from bad stuff was joshua caesar what happened okay um the reason why he was arrested and his mom posted that is alex is in

jail under first degree assault charges after the police say he randomly attacked Joshua Caesar hitting him over the head with a baseball bat wrapped in chains at his campus apartment. Wrapped in chains? That is hardcore. Yeah, Caesar

here, Joshua, said he was visiting friends who were about to graduate, including a young woman who was a cheerleader for his high school football team in New Jersey, who was there visiting. So he climbed to the third floor, walked up the stairs, knocked on the door of apartment 304. There was eight students in there, all

in the ROTC program, and there was three suites in this room. So they all shared that. He said the occupants included Alex, who was there. Now Jeff said i are joshua caesar i'm sorry said i walked in the door i got hit with the bat i didn't see it coming i fell to the ground i was unconscious for five or ten minutes what he didn't say anything he just walked in the door and was immediately beaten with his bat yeah Yeah. Now, one of those young ladies we talked about before said she knew Alex, and she saw him the moments before he attacked Joshua Caesar with the bat.

She said he was sitting in a chair clutching the bat, being weird, and they were just like, ah, who knows what people do. What? And she said he kept saying, somebody has to protect the kids. Somebody has to protect the kids. I got to protect the kids. I got to protect the kids. I got to protect the kids. I got to protect the kids. He say that over and over and over and over again. Somebody has to protect the kids.

I got to protect the kids. And then he got up and just started beating this 21 year old man, this kid with a bat. Um, the police officer who arrived at the scene after the cops were called said that Caesar was quote, stumbling toward me with an open wound on his forehead and blood pouring from it. Hit him from the front.

Just right. He walked in. He was like, hey, everybody. And he just came up and waffled him in the forehead with a fucking bat. Jesus. Caesar was graduating this year. He's a senior. He's been planning on attending medical school.

He suffered a fractured skull. Yeah. Broken shoulder and is blinded in his left eye oh shit fuck this guy's whole life up he said that doctors told him uh that they don't know if he's going to ever be able to regain his sight right wow um that is crazy um he said that though caesar said it wasn't even the baseball bat that was the scariest part of this whole thing. What was it? The scariest part was what his friends told him happened while he was unconscious.

Oh, boy. Apparently, he hit him, then he threw the bat down, then he stood over, he pulled a, Alex pulled a big knife out and was standing over him like he was going to start stabbing him. And that's when everybody in the room went, oh, what the fuck? Jesus Christ. Holy shit. And grabbed him and took the knife away from him. They shoved him against a wall in the hallway and took the weapon away from him and held him against the wall until the cops got there. They were like, this is fucking crazy.

He was going to murder this guy. He was going to knife him? Jesus. For what? Nothing. He knows him, but they don't have any beef or anything like that. They're just in the same program. They just know each other.

Caesar said they were friends. He goes, I don't understand it. What the fuck? He said he doesn't even know what happened. He said, I met him through mutual acquaintances in the ROTC program. And yeah, he said that he's as as Alex got weirder and weirder, weirder. He said that other people would start to shun him. And he said, I stayed his friend. I stayed nice to him. I didn't throw him away.

But I guess I should have. I don't know. I'm the one he attacked. Caesar said he would say odd things. He would have outbursts. He might walk into a room and not say anything and just stand there. Females were just creeped out by him. People always ask me, why are you hanging around him?

Are you friends with him? And I said, yes, he never gave me any problems. So his attorney at the time, Alex's, argues that he hit the victim in self-defense after being threatened, which the guy barely was in the door. He didn't have time to threaten anybody. There were witnesses that corroborate that. Yeah, that's the thing. And he Caesar says, that's absolutely not true.

I was visiting friends, including Alex. I was happy to see him. So there was no reason for that. His attorney, though, says, quote, except for this aberration, he is not a danger to the community. Except for an unprovoked fucking attempted murder. He's not a. An attack with a weighted bat. For no reason.

And then holding a knife over him ready to stab him. Yeah. They said that he's being held on $220 bail. But a representative from pretrial services, which conducts background checks, suggested that he not be allowed any bail. An assistant state attorney agreed as well. She said there are several witnesses who say this defendant attacked the victim with a bat. This is extremely violent. They said the hearing at the hearing that it was wrapped in chains and it was it was random. But his lawyer said that it doesn't appear a great deal of investigation was done. And he claimed that Caesar had threatened

Alex in the past, which Caesar and his attorney completely denied. And he had mentioned he would have a gun the next time they saw one another. So Alex is saying they had this beef that has escalated to the point of he Caesar has threatened to shoot him next time he sees him. And he said the incident wasn't random and that Alex was, you know, in the right for doing this. He said he was in fear for his life. He defended himself based on previous threats that had taken place. He said, I think you should reduce the bail, as a matter of fact. This man's a hero.

Yeah. So the judge is impressed with Alex's grade point average in electrical engineering and the people who came to speak to his character, who is his father, a physics professor, his uncle, and also a rotary club president that came to talk for him an athletic booster from the university so someone who gives money um yeah so that's these are the people who important people upright people came to talk for him and so the judge said it was her impulse to follow the recommendations of prosecutors and pretrial services and revoke any chance of a bond.

But she said, I am impressed by this gentleman's background and support here today. So she said, based upon that, my inclination is to give to give no bail has been restrained and I'll keep the same bail the same. So they let him out on bail. So they let him out on bail. A woman here posted a vacant property that she owned, a woman named Joanne Rice, to make bond. She put her property up for bond. Wow. Collateral in property.

Yeah, not a family member. Someone else. Yeah, a stranger. Yep. So he's out on bond. May 23, 2012, he gets out on bail here. This is for first degree assault and excessive endangerment of life. Excessive endangerment of life.

Damn near attempted murder. That's what I mean. With the knife above him. That is. Truly. Wow. That's terrifying. So that's what I, if I'm the judge, that's what I'd want to know.

What were you going to do with the knife afterwards? That's answer that question for me. So May 25, 2012, two days later, he's been kicked out now. He can't go back to campus. He's been kicked off out of the ROTC dorm and all that shit, which he shouldn't have been in anyway because he wasn't an ROTC person anymore. Right. He was just a frat guy? Yeah, and he had paid for it, so they had to let him stay there for a while.

So now he's moved back home here. This is on Terrapin Lane, I believe, Terrapin Way. Now, we'll talk a little bit about Cujo, the guy who moved in, the 37-year-old. He is from Ghana. He's here on a U.S. student visa. His father was a retired banker who attended St. Augustine's College at Cape Coast. And he only has an uncle in America. Otherwise, he has no other relatives here.

Cujo. Temple University. He graduated from Temple University in Philly in 2002 with a bachelor's degree in electrical engineering. And then in 2004 with a master's degree in the same subject. Wow. So he's got a doctorate or some shit? Yeah. He also attended Towson University for a time there.

Then he went to Morgan, also in the engineering graduate program. But in 2008, he ran into some trouble when he was convicted of stalking and fourth degree sex offense. Cujo. After police say he pursued a fellow student. We'll talk a little bit about that. Yeah, he was dismissed by the university after this. And by the way, it's a fourth-degree sex offense, harassment and stalking. And they're going to sentence him to an 18-month jail term for this.

Okay. After the assault, I guess the student was another graduate student, by the way, he harassed. She said that he demanded that she become his girlfriend. Okay. Demanded. It works, but okay. No. I found you.

You're my girlfriend. Yeah. And she said he, quote, became persistent and began to scare her by providing details of her personal information, including her social security number and a new phone number she had obtained in an effort to avoid him. Oh, my God. This dude just pops up like he is a technically savvy stalker is scary. He knows everything. Holy shit.

So he's convicted of all these things. He's ordered deported as well. Oh. Because he's not a citizen yet. Yeah. He's ordered deported and there's pending paperwork from the Ghanaian,

Ghanaian, Ghanaian, Ghanaian, I guess, embassy. Ghanaian, Ghanaian from the embassy for Ghana. A spokesperson for ICE here

said that his student visa was revoked in March 2010 and he'd been ordered by an immigration judge to be deported. They're waiting for travel documents from Ghana to be able to send him back. Otherwise, he won't be able to get in the country. So they have to wait for that. So he fought his deportation and his detention as well and all that shit. So Cujo contested the judge's ruling before the Board of Immigration

Appeals and represented himself instead of obtaining an attorney. He's pretty smart. He lost that case because that's usually not a good idea. And the judge denied his motion to reconsider the ruling and he's also appealing the conviction in the

stalking and harassment case as well. Relatives to him from Ghana was he's preparing to come home and get a job. He dreamed of becoming the president of Ghana. OK. I don't have any sex charges over here do I. No. The president of Ghana. You can be the president.

I guess. Yeah. Why not. You can come home and I guess so. He said that he also has a chemical engineering degree from a university in Ghana as well, in addition to his other degrees. said that his father, I guess his father, or this guy met Anthony, Alex's father, in Kenya. Well, not in Kenya, in the U.S., but while pursuing a doctoral degree. So he said Alex's father is Dr. Kinyua.

So he says Dr. Kinyua was extremely kind in taking Cujo into his house while Kujo got his feet back under him. So they say, I think Kujo's on his way to reestablishing his educational status and completing his Ph.D. So May 2012, he calls his mother for Mother's Day and everything like that. And the sister said, we took turns talking to him and he expressed his desire to return home within months. He even asked my husband to start looking for jobs for him. My brother's dream is to become the president of Ghana. And that's why he spent so much time educating himself in the U.S. So he's been staying with Alex's family in the 500 block of Terrapin Terrace for about six months here awaiting his deportation paperwork. That's how this shit's been going. Now,

he's staying there. He, one day, he's doing his normal routines. Then one day, May 25th, 2012, apparently he leaves the house dressed in, it's 5.30 a.m.

Cujo puts on shorts and a t-shirt and he's getting ready to jog in the front yard hell yeah he said he's like stretching he's doing his stuff that's what that's um alex's father saw him out there so he was getting ready to run he left all of his personal effects in the home including his wallet cell phone id he's just jogging yeah that's a pain in the ass to carry with you when you jog yeah you're gonna drop it and uh but the father said he never came back to the house alex's dad said kujo never returned from his jog so they were like that's weird his stuff was still sitting there yeah so he he calls the cops he calls the sheriff's office and said he's missing there's this guy missing and um yeah he's missing from Terrapin Terrace here.

And they said he's last seen 530 a.m. Stretching in the front yard. Like, OK. So the next day it's assigned to the criminal investigation division of the Harford, the Harford County Sheriff's office. And so they do an investigation. A detective contacts, first of all, jails and hospitals. Number one, you got this guy?

No? Okay. Nothing there. So he conducted numerous interviews with people who knew him personally. Everybody said they haven't talked to him. It was 5.30 in the fucking morning. He hadn't talked to anybody yet. He was jogging. He was jogging.

Yeah, they don't know where he is. So May 29, 2012 comes around. Days go by. He's been gone four days. Yeah, it's almost a week, Jesus. Yeah. So this detective begins contacting the residents of this house where he lives. And he was advised that Cujo had not returned home and they had no other information.

Saw him in the yard and didn't see him anymore. So they were like, okay. Look in the paperwork, that's all we got. Yeah, so the detective just gave everybody his card and said if you see him, if you hear anything, give me a ring. That was that. So that was earlier in the day on May 29th.

Then later on in the day, about 10.30 at night, the detective is contacted by Anthony, by Alex's father. And he said, um, hmm. Know that guy you're looking for, Cujo? Well, I think I may have found him. You got him? Not sure if it's him or not, but I think I might have found him. You got him? Not sure if it's him or not, but I think I might have found him.

Hard to tell because my son, Jared, my other son, not Alex, Jared, he found what he believes to be human remains in my basement. So you should probably come check that out. Maybe. Might be him. If there's a guy missing and there's human remains here, then you should probably maybe check that out. Well, we'll find out. It's not just remains. It is something.

So Jared had gone downstairs, and there is, I guess, tin boxes is how it's described, with towels over them. And he finds down there in these boxes, because he's like, what are these boxes? And opens them up. He finds a there in these boxes, because he's like, what are these boxes? And opens them up. He finds a head. A human head and some hands in this box. Hands are on a plate. We'll talk about that.

The hands were on a charred serving dish. A charred plate. Like if you go to a steak place and they do the last little finishing with the butter on the plate and it's all like that. Wow. With hands on it. And, yeah, so he said he saw that. He said, I saw, he goes upstairs and says, I found human hands on a skull in two stacked metal containers under a blanket in the laundry room down there. I'm going to do that now.

This is crazy. so the father says holy fuck goes with jared down to the basement as he goes down there they don't find the parts right there but they do find alex cleaning the metal container with pine saw what pine sawing the inside of it hi guys how you doing morning morning best time of the day to go fuck yourself as they'd say in deadwood i love that's my favorite line of all time um so they the father called the police and obviously the police came and um they said when they got there they found several family members in the basement in a semi-circle around a large aluminum serving dish on the floor that's where the hands were in the corner was alex in the corner of the

room they said in the corner with his hands behind his back staring straight ahead just staring like a soldier but but like hunched down like just staring into the like the fucking kid from the shining when he was lost to shit like one of the like just staring like the whole family's around a semicircle of body parts and detectives have arrived and he's not changing expression or acknowledging any of this so they said that inside the pan were run marks and liquid oh jesus yeah so the brother Oh, Jesus. skull and a pair of human hands he said was a fox yeah he said what you saw was a fox that i caught and i tried to cook but it didn't work and what did you do with it that's the thing the hands were cooked on a plate oh jesus i understand that anybody who's paid attention to the media would have to come to the conclusion that i killed my wife. Hi, my name is Zach Stewart-Pontier.

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I'd just like to go ahead and say that if there's no band called Malevolent Deity, that is pretty great. A dash of sarcasm and just garnished a bit with a little bit of cursing. This mother f***er lied. Like a liar. Like a liar. And if you're a weirdo like us and love to cozy up to a creepy tale of the paranormal. Or you love to hop in the Wayback Machine and dissect the details of some of history's most notorious crimes, you should tune in to our podcast, Morbid. Follow Morbid on the Wondery app or wherever

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With a touch of humor. I'd just like to go ahead and say that if there's no band called Malevolent Deity, that is pretty great. A dash of sarcasm and just garnished a bit with a little bit of cursing. This mother f***er lied. Like a liar. Like a liar. And if you're a weirdo like us and love to cozy up to a creepy tale of the paranormal. Or you love to hop in the Wayback Machine and dissect the details of some of history's most notorious crimes.

You should tune in to our podcast, Morbid. Follow Morbid on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to episodes early and ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. He said he tried to cook them, so that's what you saw. And police do find a metal cage and a plastic tub with decaying animals in it in the backyard, by the way. So he has killed animals and has them in the backyard for that so holy fucking shit and jared said when he

first got down there alex was throwing a blanket on top of these boxes real quick that's it was like looked like he was doing it fast and that's when he said you know what the fuck what is that and he said oh it's an animal don't't worry about it. So they go upstairs. The police go up to the second floor. That's where they find two human hands and a head. Alex had hid them upstairs. Oh, boy. So, yeah, they get him in to the police station and they go, obviously, we'd like to know what happened.

What the fuck, man? Most of all, we'd love to know where's the rest of him where'd you get these who is it and where's the rest where's the rest because heads and a head and hands don't make a human whole body what what'd you do with people and he said well i'll tell you what happened by the way they said the body must be identified officially but we're strong we strongly suspect this is our missing person. Probably. Yeah. Good guess.

Good guess. Yeah, probably. So he said, well, he said, I found him sleeping. So he must have come back from jogging and went back to sleep, possibly. Okay. He said, I found him sleeping, so I murdered him with an axe. Yeah. I chopped him up good with an axe.

Then I dismembered him because I didn't want him to be in one piece. Obviously, he'd come back to life and haunt me. I've got to put the parts in different places. Yeah. Then I ate his brain and his heart. Holy. I ate them. and his heart. Holy. I ate them. Just was hungry.

The rest of him is digesting? Well, I ate his brains and his heart. And then I put his arms and legs and torso. You'll find that a couple, like three doors down in front of that church in the garbage can outside the church there. Just put it in their dumpster. What the fuck? So, yeah, you can find him in there. No it in their dumpster so yeah you can find him in there no problem so if you check that out stuff oh yeah he ate him he ate him he was trying

to eat the hands too that's why he cooked them oh but his brother caught him otherwise he was eating the hands too that's what he was doing yeah he was like i was gonna eat the hands but you know my fucking brother is there is there much to him yeah it's it's no i would think it would be not a lot not a lot a lot of meat i've seen my grandmother and all the old italian people my family eating chicken feet back in the day and it feels like that would be the similar experience i would assume it's yeah it's like chicken wings that amount you know i mean maybe if that he was cooking them though wow so the official police report says, during this search, human remains were discovered on the main floor of the home, specifically a human head and two hands. In an interview conducted with Mr. Alex Kanyua, it was reported that he had caused the death of Mr. Cody by cutting him up with a knife.

Mr. Kanyua's father reported that after causing the death, he had ingested mr cody's heart and portions of his brain alex then directed detectives to 536 trimble road on the town baptist church that he stated the remainder of mr cody's body could be located in a dumpster on the property my god and they found him that's where he was um i mean there was no way out of this. No, no, no, no. He was in the basement with a head. Yeah. It's fucking done.

And in the middle. Yeah. Cooked hands. The spokesperson, a spokesperson for the county said that this killing was among the most brutal and bizarre they'd ever seen. They said this comes after this is right after the naked guy in miami who uh tried to eat another man's face remember that crocodile yeah yeah that shit and then also they said this is right after in new jersey a man disemboweled himself and then threw his own intestines at police officers when they came together which is maybe the the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life.

That is, yeah. That's beyond crazy. Throwing your intestines at people? You've caused yourself a lot of harm, and then you're using that as a weapon? I can't imagine that's ever happened ever in human history before that, right? That has to be the one and only time someone used their own intestines as a weapon. I can't imagine. Like a whip?

Yeah, like a whip or just throw it at them, try to strangle them with it like a piano wire. So the sheriff, Jesse Bain, said of these allegations, I've been with the agency 40 years, and I would say this is the first time I can remember where someone was placed under arrest in Harford County, and part of his crime was he consumed the victim. I've not encountered that in this county and I hope we never encounter that again. He's a cannibal. That's wild. He cannibalized a roommate.

That is crazy. A family friend. So the authorities are exploring whether or not others participated in the crime or knew about it ahead of time based on inconsistencies and statements made by the suspect's family. Now, when contacted by the press, um, they said that the, the,

the son said that his parents were resting and the family did not wish to speak to the media without an attorney. Okay. That doesn't sound good. So the whole place is a crime scene. The whole street is a crime scene. The church is a crime scene. Everything is is a crime scene the church is a crime scene that everything is blocked off with fucking so many crime scenes it's a lot yeah so um they said

that his confession was very matter of fact too he was like yeah i cut him up with a knife and then i ate his brains and i ate his heart and then i took his stuff and you could find him at that church just like real tried to suck the fingers dry but y'all caught me that's it shit i heard finger looking good and i figured i'd try it and then it wasn't that what i thought um they said though they don't have a motive for the crime they said they don't know why why he was like i don't know we had to do it just said i had to do it that was it so they don't know so they were like they don't know at this point is Is it a mental thing? Were there drugs involved? What the fuck's up with this guy? So they were consulting the it's so strange that they're consulting the FBI's behavioral analysis unit just to find out. family, his reaction, their reaction. His sister said about the parents, Daddy is in a state of shock, does not want to believe his son is dead. We look at the picture that went with the story

and see the smiles on his face and we do not want to believe he was dead. Neighbors called the Kinyua's one neighbor Mary Ellen Murray. She called Beatrice and Aunt Neek. They said they're quiet, wonderful people. They would give you the shirt off their back. Nobody has anything bad to say about them.

She said she knows their children from the kids playing around. She said you wouldn't have expected anything like this out of them. I'm sure. Who the fuck would you? Hey, look at them. They leave all that shit out in their yard. One of them is going to eat the other one. I know it.

I know he's going to eat them. I feel it. He's going to behead them and eat them. I can tell just by looking at him. He's got a hankering for brain. I see. I could see it. A heart meat maybe.

I'm not sure. Everybody's just in shock more than anything. She also said that's all anyone's been talking about. As things unfold, it's just harder and harder to take. One said they were in disbelief that this could happen in their small, tidy street of townhouses built in 1999. They're just off a rural winding, trimble road. So it's out there. They said there's still a patch of woods across the street from the development. It's rural. So not rural, but rural-ish. Welcome to small town murder. Yeah. Welcome to small town murder.

They said, said quote hopefully they can get through this thing you just want to break down and cry thinking about what they must be going through this is the neighbor talking about the family only one person who knows is the person who did it and we might never know the real reason another i think he's got some mental disturbances that he doesn't know that's i mean i don't think he knows what's going on that's i mean i don't think he's like, I'm pretty fucked up. I bet if I kill someone, I'll feel better. I think he's just...

One neighbor said, it just gets more shocking. You think it's bad, but then when you find out the details, you think, really? It got worse? Yeah. Welcome to small town murder. That's how it works. One neighbor said, I never met them. Never once.

It's really sad. I never knew the victim either. But holy smokes, nobody deserves that. Holy smokes. Holy smokes. Nobody deserves that. That's one way to put it. Yeah.

One said, certainly nobody wants it in their neighborhood, but we've got it, so we have to deal with it. Nobody wants cannibalism on the street, really. It's not a fucking group home calm down nobody wants that on the block you know what i mean drives down housing values because really it does it's not a fucking assisted living center it's fucking cannibalism sir it's wild nobody needs nobody wants that nobody wants the the fucking nuclear processing facility at the end of the street they said quote people have already made comments about being fearful with their kids. It's a knee jerk reaction.

The next thing we'll see, the typical reaction is when any time happens, any time crime happens, you'll have the door to door alarm salesman, which wouldn't have helped here because they all lived in the same fucking house. Also, show me a neighborhood where somebody had their heart and brain eaten and then it happened again and then that happened again damn it it's an epidemic we can't help it it's a wave of brain eating that's going on in this neighborhood it's wild the kids are spray painting walls they're eating brains they're out of control holy shit now joshua caesar they talked to him the guy oh boy yeah he said that he feels like

he narrowly escaped without being eaten yeah he thinks that's what he was gonna do to me he's had a fucking knife over me and this was you was gonna carve me yeah this was two days beforehand oh i mean this happened the week it happened so he was still on the same trip he says quote i believe he was gonna do to me what he did to the next victim. I felt all of these things that were going on could have been prevented, he said. Also, I mean, he was talking about human sacrifice that should have set off an alarm. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody, if you hear someone talking about human sacrifice constantly, like maybe pay attention to that. Wow. Alert somebody. Yeah. The Caesars attorney said that he's investigating whether Morgan staff were negligent and failing to identify what he called a ticking to North Baltimore campus said for the first time that they're conducting a sweeping self-examination in the aftermath here. The spokesman for the university president said they're going to review every level of organization that might have had contact with this young man.

As in every incident, we're looking at how this was handled and how it could have been handled better. Were there levels of the university that should have been in contact about this and weren't? Wow. He's like, this guy will be delicious. I just can't. How did he kill him? Did he just stab him? Yeah, he stabbed him.

He chopped him with an axe while he slept, and then he carved him up with a knife. And then dismembered him with a knife. That's what he fucking did. Because two days ago when when the guy was standing yeah he was too hard to to handle so i need him asleep well he could have done it he knocked him out he knocked him unconscious and then he could have carved him up but the people interfered people stopped him yeah people stopped him otherwise that's what he was doing man um prosecutors uh say that they they because people have said he should have been charged with attempted murder and held rather than assault.

And they said no. A spokesperson for the state's attorney's office said the allegations supported the charges, although he noted officials would have been able to revise the charges before filing an indictment. But that's what he was originally charged with. Alex's attorney said the charges were sufficient. He said, let's face it. The first-degree assault charge is extremely serious. It carries a maximum of 25 years in the division of correction. So at his first court appearance, his defense attorney, Lynn McChrystal, requested reasonable bail be set in the case.

Are you out of your fucking mind for the murder yeah um adding that alex has been in harford county for six years and and maryland for nine years and he's self-employed he does consulting work so we should let him out he's only done this once yep he is which is a wild the state's attorney said um no he number one he has out of the country ties so he can flee number two the grizzly nature of the he ate a man we're gonna let him out he still has the taste of brain on his tongue we can't let him out still has it on his breath for christ's sake awful um they asked for him to be held without bail which was obviously said yeah it's this is this is a no bail situation here then the court records show that his family, the Kinyua family, is in financial trouble.

Attorneys representing a debt collection agency filed a lawsuit seeking to foreclose on their home because of missed mortgage payments. Well, I got news for you. That house is worth a lot less now. You can have it probably. Yeah, you're going to just knock it to the ground anyway. Anybody paying a mortgage on that would be crazy to continue. That'd be it. Yeah.

Fucking stop now. Dad still teaches. Yeah. At the same place. Really? At Morgan State. Yeah. He's a physics professor.

He spoke to a publication briefly about returning to campus. And he said, things are not the same for sure. Things are different. He said he opted to continue teaching despite the tragedy. He said he refused to discuss the specifics of the case, citing concern for his family.

When asked how he's faring, he said, well, I'm here. He teaches a full schedule of classes, doesn't shy away from discussing his son, although we won't talk about specifics of the case. Right. The tragedy, they said, is an issue his family has had to work through.

And he's aware of the concern in the students. And he's appreciative of the support. He says, we're all in this together. Okay. Wow. So Alex is currently undergoing mental evaluation at a maximum security psychiatric hospital to make sure that if convicted, he faces the death penalty. You bet. So, yes, he goes to court and he has basically there's a report from a Clifton T. Perkins Hospital, which is where he was sent, that he is mentally incompetent and unable to stand trial.

You can't. What are you going to do? His psychiatrist says the same thing. Yeah. And so the hospital said the issue is that the person may be having difficulty with distinguishing fantasy from reality or may be having delusional thoughts about what the judge's role is or who the judge is. Wow.

Yeah. Because at one point he talks about reptile people and he doesn't even recognize the judge as authority wow um they said that a close friend said that um they were startled about this whole thing um the court also said quote alex did not impulsively commit the crime he prepared Cujo for consumption. He prepped his stuff. He used seasoning and shit, Jimmy. What?

It's like, let me see what a brain tastes like. He preheated the oven kind of thing. He's like, I think rosemary goes best with heart. Wow. You know, it goes good with lamb, so why not heart? Similar. Yeah. Holy shit.

So, yeah, he is deemed you sir are guilty but not criminally responsible due to mental illness so he's committed forever uh well he is committed to a mental health facility indefinitely which means until a judge finds that he's no longer dangerous oh thank god which could be tomorrow could be next week we have it's gonna be never could be 50 years um yeah the they said Oh, thank God. assault case yeah he also pleads guilty but found not criminally responsible there too because really he's just fucking nuts yeah they agreed with a psychiatric assessment that determined alex was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia which is the in the eyes of the law things that make you not criminally responsible for mental illness it is very few things very few and one of those is they actually think you're a paranoid schizophrenic that hears voices and doesn't understand reality that's how crazy you

have to be to not be criminally responsible we've gone over it lots of times where they're like oh you're crazy as a shithouse rat but you're not you're still you know what you're doing you know what i mean this guy they're like we don't even know if he knew what he was doing. His Twitter account alone is proof enough. He's bonkers. What the fuck happened? The reason why he did this, Jimmy, it finally came out. His reasoning for why he was going to kill both of these people. He's a paranoid schizophrenic and at the time believed reptilian aliens were going to destroy the earth.

And he was saving the earth by killing the first wave of them, which happened to be the guy in his dorm and the dude at his house. Yeah. That guy can't go to jail. That's not where they're sending them. Yeah. This is fucking crazy. Yeah, he's just hanging out at my house now.

But he felt it was to take him out, though. To start with him, yeah. He felt these people knew that he knew that they were here, so they needed to eliminate him so they could take over the Earth. There's so many, yeah. In his mind, he was the last line of defense between reptilian aliens and the Earth. It was just him because no one else got it. He'd been trying to tell people about it, but they didn't fucking hear it, so he's got to take matters into his own hands he's a crazy person yeah very crazy so yeah they said that the state found he was not in control of his actions they agreed with the

defense they agreed everybody's both psychiatrists said the same thing the state hospital and the defense one said he is cuckoo bananas he garliced it you garliced it, you guys. Yeah. He put a, wow. Oh, man. So they said we had no, the prosecution said, we really had no evidence, no testimony or opinion from other medical personnel that would dispute the findings of the doctors at our state facility. Sure, sure.

They said a committed person cannot be released under the law until the court finds they're no longer a threat to themselves or others based on psychiatric evaluations. They added that this psychiatric guy who runs the hospital said he's seen defendants convicted of much lesser charges such as arson or assault that were committed for over 20 years. He says they definitely take it seriously. Their ramifications of all this Morgan State. They got to get their shit together a little bit here on this one. They established a, quote, chief public safety officer position in the wake of this.

A CPO. That's the guy. He's the one. There's one guy that's going to stop all this. That should stop paranoid schizophrenic people who think reptilian aliens are taking over the earth they should be able to keep an eye on everything i think right we got a batman around here don't worry that's it we already have a batman that's the problem that's why we need him yeah we have a batman and he's terrifying he hits you with a bat and tries to eat you so there you go everybody

he is remains in the mental hospital and i i hope for a while, because obviously he's got some major, major mental issues. Yeah, that's beyond. I feel terrible for the guy who got murdered and all that, but I feel whatever's going on in that guy's head must have been unbearable. I mean, think about what the— What starts that? Normally with the murder, we're like, yeah, well, you know what? My feeling bad for you ends when you kill somebody. But this guy, I don't even think he knows what the fuck he did.

You know what I mean? Like, he's out there. I need to know when it started and what happened. There was an event that had to have occurred because he graduated. He's a fucking, he's. He had a good, yeah, he was. He was on his way. He was holding it together until December and like everything fell apart in December and then it was like this six month just

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