Small Town Murder - #473 - Flying Vampire Tinder Date - Wilber, Nebraska

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

This week, in Wilber, Nebraska, a young woman's seemingly promising Tinder date, leads to another, then to her disappearance. After much searching, she is found, in so many pieces, that none ...of it makes sense. Who is responsible? Obviously, a couple, who run their own little cult, where one claims to be a flying, mind reading vampire, who can give you powers, if you breathe in the victim's dying breath!Along the way, we find out that Czech people apparently dominate southeastern Nebraska, that breathing in a dying person's breath will probably not give you special witch powers, and that if someone tells you that they can fly, make them prove it!!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: crimeinsports@gmail.comGo to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:35 vampire sex cult. Welcome to Small Town Murder. Yay! Oh, yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you, folks, so much for joining us today on an absolutely insane edition of Small Town Murder. It's crazy every week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:14 But I don't know if you noticed at the opening when I mentioned a flying vampire sex cult. Flying? Yeah. There's some weird stuff going on in this episode. It's just some very strange stuff going on in this episode. It's just some very strange stuff and some absolutely awful murder. We will get into all of that. First, I want to say, head over to ShutUpAndGiveMeMurder.com. Tickets for the live shows.
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Starting point is 00:03:20 So people beaten to death in front of an audience full of people. That's crazy stuff part two of that because we did a part one about a year ago then for small town murder we're going to talk about the mel lyman cult this was a cult in the late 60s and it continued on for a long time because it morphed into other things mel lyman was known as the charles manson of the east coast so enough said i would say We'll get into all of that. Patreon.com slash Grime and Sports. And you get a shout out at the end of the show as well.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Oh, for sure. Jimmy will mispronounce your name. He wants to get it right. He'd love to. But let's face it, it's probably not going to happen. So check all that out. Quick disclaimer. This is a comedy show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:02 We're comedians. Jokes are going to get made. But, you know, that happens, yes. But nothing's made up for comedic effect or anything like that. And what we do here is we go out of our way not to make fun of the victim or the victim's families. Why, James? Because we're assholes. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:04:20 But we're not scumbags. That's how that goes. Yes, there's plenty to be there for the taking for comedy. Lots of fodder. People go, I think I can get away with a murder. No, you can't. That's funny. A police force screws up an investigation for a year and a half and lets a murderer walk free.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Making fun of those guys, that's something you can do there. They deserve it. They deserve it. So we're going to do all of that. If you think that true crime and comedy should never, ever go together, though, we might not be for you. Maybe not. But I think maybe you should probably check it out and make sure. Give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:04:53 But no bitching later. That's the thing here. That's the deal. That's the main point we're trying to make here. And that said, I think it's time, everybody. Let's do this. I think it's time to clear the lungs. Let's all arms to the sky, everyone.
Starting point is 00:05:04 And let's do this. I think it's time to clear the lungs. Let's all arms to the sky, everyone, and let's all shout. Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this, everybody. What do you say, Jimmy? Let's go on a trip, shall we? Yes. Let's do this. We're going to Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Okay. Very exciting, Nebraska. We've been there. It is a whole lot of corn and wheat and just driving and going everything looks the same um this is in southeastern nebraska because things start to change when you get toward the western end there toward colorado it gets a little different it's still the plains because you don't have the mountains yet but yeah it's there's no mountains till you hit denver no no no no no no no no but it's still you know it's a
Starting point is 00:05:46 little different but this is over in the eastern part it's about 45 minutes to lincoln which we've been there and then on hour and a half to omaha which we've done shows there and then it's two hours and 10 minutes to lions nebraska which was our last nebraska episode episode 426 the chief the floozy and the church lady that was a twisted one i remember that nebraska you guys always bring it for weird twisted murders let me tell you something weird place you got i'm gonna put them up there in the annals of florida and and west virginia and maine and just these weird creepy murders you guys have a lot of them here this is in saline or saline county however it's said i'm not sure i'm sure it's saline or saline or some weird
Starting point is 00:06:25 like i said i don't care anymore i don't care don't care hit me up and tell me it's fine i don't even care i'm not gonna get mad anymore don't give a shit knock yourselves out area code 402 motto here and this is probably the last motto you expected. You expect a good place to live, work, and play and all that kind of shit. Yeah. This is very specific. The Czech capital of the United States. Czech like Czech Republic. Czechoslovakia.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Oh, is that right? CZ, not CH. All the Czechs are made here. All the bank checks are made in one factory. Nope. So that's what it's about. A real light history. We're going to go quick on the town stuff this week because this episode is crazy and it's deep and we need time for it.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So it was platted in 1873 by a man named C.D. Wilber. C.D.? C.D. That's why it's called Wilber, W-I-L-B-E-R. It's named for him. That's why it's called Wilbur, W-I-L-B-E-R. It's named for him. And the seat of Saline County, it was the seat, and then it was transferred. It was transferred here from Pleasant Hill.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So it became the county seat. Very exciting. It was declared the official Czech capital of the United States on July 10, 1987, in a decree signed by then President Ronald Reagan. Is that right? It wasn't the mayor who just said, we're the Czech capital. It's the president said it. 10th, 1987, in a decree signed by then-President Ronald Reagan. Is that right? It wasn't the mayor who just said, we're the Czech capital. It's the president said it. Wilbur Host. More Czechoslovakians in Nebraska than fucking New York City? You never know.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I guess per capita, probably. It's probably, I mean, here, it's not that big. So if you've got 1,000 Czech people, you're like, holy shit, that's a lot of the town here. They have the Czech Days Festival, which is their big deal here. And we'll talk about that, as you might imagine. Reviews here very quickly. Here's five stars. I've lived in this wonderful small community since 1989.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Oh. Wow, they've had some experience. Shortly after the proclamation. That's why they came here. We heard. Once you hear about the Czechness of a place why they came here. We heard. Once you hear about the Czechness of a place, you pack up and you go. That's how it works. The town has old world charm since it's the national Czech capital of the United States.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Even they bring it up. It's definitely a palpable thing here. It is a great place to raise a family and learn how to speak Czech, probably, I would imagine. They are hot. Who knows? I'm sure, yeah. That's fine. to speak Czech, probably, I would imagine. They are hot. Who knows? I'm sure, yeah. That's fine. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:08:49 They're welcome, I'm sure. Three stars. Wilbur is a small town, so it does not have many larger stores. Wilbur does have a large amount of hair salons and places to eat for such a small town. What a weird thing to have a lot of, hair salons. You got to keep those check people hot those check broads they need their hair done very often they're not taking no for an answer it happens you can't leave the house looking like shit there is a subways a casey's two meat markets and several bars oh well it's overwhelmed with commerce, apparently. What are the chances Casey's is just called Casey?
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah. Subways? Subway and, yeah, Subway is what they, one Subway. Oh, they said there's a Subway. No, a Subway, and then there's Casey's, a Casey's, and then two meat markets, several bars. Wilbur also had a great grocery store. I don't know if it's gone now or if the D is just next to the S. So that's the problem with that.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I'm not sure. The prices are much higher than Walmart, but it is much more convenient. A person can get anything they need in Wilbur except clothing and electronics. So not everything they need, apparently. But Wilbur's only 40 minutes away from Lincoln. This makes Wilbur an ideal place to raise a family. Oh. Because you can get your electronics 40 minutes away.
Starting point is 00:10:10 So ideal. 40 minutes. You can get an Apple store. Yep. People in this town, population 1,984. So very small. Wow. It's a small place.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Very small. Very small. Way more males than females, which is odd. It's 53.5% male. Hmm. Very small. Way more males than females, which is odd. It's 53.5% male. I don't know if those checks are just a little heavy on the Y chromosome, apparently. It's a little denser in their blood. They got high T around there. It's a high T area.
Starting point is 00:10:36 That's the problem. Median age here is like right at the national average of 37. Family, it's about a lot of average. About 52% married. it's normally 50 50 nothing crazy race of this town 89.6 white 4.4 black 0.2 asian 7.9 hispanic religion here 52 so just over the national average and it's spread around pretty good methodists and lutherans and a few catholics here and there and some Presbyterians. No Jewish people.
Starting point is 00:11:06 That's not happening here. But the rest of them are all spread around. In this county here, the median household income is $71,389 a year, which is a couple thousand higher than the national average, which is not bad at all, especially considering the cost of 100 being at regular average here it's about 78 so it's low fantastic uh median home cost here 181 400 bucks that's great not bad at all and uh maybe you're gonna you know what you're you're looking to slow it down a little bit let's go have a look see have a look see have a nice dinner at casey's and then uh you stroll markets. Some Czech fucking culture? We have for you the Wilbur, Nebraska Real Estate Report. Okay, your average two-bedroom rental here goes for about $940, which is well under the national average, about $1,200 there. Here is a two-bedroom, one-bath, 946-square-foot thing.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Starter home. Yeah, I think it's weird, man. It's not a nice house. It looks like a little shack. It's the starter, James. The roof, Well, your starter should be able to keep the elements out, and the roof is not good. This is my main problem
Starting point is 00:12:29 with it. That's what makes a house. You've got a different environment. If you had to pick a roof or walls, I think I'd pick a roof. You know what I mean? Keep out the sun and the rain. I feel like that's good. I can get under that. So the roof not doing well. One of the rooms is very heavily water damaged, it looks like, which is not great.
Starting point is 00:12:48 But it's only $52,000. Very affordable. Yeah. Maybe you got a bunch of buddies that know how to do roofing and you bring them over and have a big party one weekend. I don't know. Or you don't care about sloppy wet furniture. You go, well, don't care about it. Let's just kind of cordon off that room.
Starting point is 00:13:05 We'll just put up police tape. Tarps and whatever, yeah. Here's a four-bedroom, two-bath, 2,956-square-foot house. It is actually in the town proper of Wilbur here. It looks like shit. It looks like a church basement, essentially. It looks to me like the worst VFW hall on earth inside. That's what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Oh, inside? Inside. Jesus. The outside looks like a murder trailer. It's not a trailer, but it looks like a trailer. That's how shitty the house is. 3,000 square feet of this. A 3,000 square foot VFW trailer is what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:13:44 $225,000 for that, though. Okay. I mean, it's ugly, but if you need it spaced, it's not a bad price. Sure, it is. And then here is a three bedroom, seven bath, tea bowl for each and every b-hole and some neighbors and whoever else comes over. What is happening there? Well, it's an 8,120 square foot house. So that's each bedroom has a bathroom, and then there's four other bathrooms spread up among this giant house.
Starting point is 00:14:10 You'd need them. You'd need one by the kitchen. You'd need one over on the other side. Yeah. That's so much square footage for three bedrooms. It's insane. It's on a lake. It has a little island that you can cross a bridge to.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Very weird. It's a party house. It's exactly what it looks like. It looks like a country club, kind of. It's like a weird, it looks like it's almost part of a golf course. Like, this is like off the 10th hole, there's a place to go have some burgers and hang out and, you know, get some drinks before you finish out the round. $3,200,000 for that, though.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Okay. A little pricey. I mean, it's got- How much land? It's got like 100 acres. It's a lot. Oh for that, though. Okay. A little pricey. I mean, it's got... How much land? It's got like 100 acres. It's a lot. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:49 You're going to pay for it. Yeah. But it's... I don't know why you... That's awesome. It's pretty cool. You're like, wow, if this wasn't in Nebraska, it'd be awesome. If this wasn't so far from everything.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah. It's kind of weird. It's just outside Lincoln, that place. Okay. This here, things to do. Let's find out. The Czech Festival, as previously mentioned before here. Tell me about it.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Previously alluded to Czech Festival. It will be celebrating. Last year, they celebrated 150 years of Czech heritage in 2023. Let's see what they had here. This is good. It's a dance group the cheluski brothers came out there so oh that's awesome i've been looking for we've been talking about seeing them jimmy i know we have we've been thinking about we've tried to match it up with like where our
Starting point is 00:15:39 tour dates cross with theirs we can never hook up with the cheluski so, so the Flying Chaluski Brothers, if you're out there, we gotta do something together. Five years of this, and we haven't run across you yet. Never. We're trying so hard to line up our schedule. Fucking ridiculous. Check bingo takes place. What is that? I have no idea. What's the difference? I think you yell
Starting point is 00:15:59 out the numbers in check, maybe, is the only difference. Some of the numbers have like a line through them for no reason I don't know a costume exhibit a check sing-along will take place memories of Christine
Starting point is 00:16:16 Janda I don't know who the fuck that is we're gonna talk about her right after that's over there's to bring the spirits back up again an accordion jamboree so this is the weirdest fucking festival ever um this is awesome gary more amusements will be there for a couple hours don't know what the hell that is very more amusements uh also the dan brouhaha band will be playing and then there's just for no reason, a Gold Star Martial Arts Exhibition.
Starting point is 00:16:49 When I think Czech, I think martial arts. The Barry Boyce Band will also be there. More accordion exhibits. A sand volleyball tournament, which again, screams Czech culture to me. Sand volleyball? Where are they trucking sand into this place? We don't know this, but in the Czech Republic, Top Gun was the most popular
Starting point is 00:17:12 movie that's ever come out. They've been idle ever since then. It's just on loop. Ever since then, all the people got into beach volleyball. They all wear jeans and no shirt. It's very weird. Beach volleyball. The furthest city from any beach in no beach malik's fisherman band will be there okay i don't know why there's a stand a stein
Starting point is 00:17:36 holding contest okay i've seen that before ken siebel will be performing the barry boyce band gets a second set there oh they're gonna get a fucking encore oh yeah and the leo lani trio you gotta have them along there's three of them obviously and then of course the quilt show will close it all out because you gotta have a quilt show what a festival that is a festival what a festival mark a bunch of people you've never heard of pretty much in tommy was those accent too that's the accent they have pretty much oh mark what a festival mark uh crime rate in this town what we're interested in here uh property crimes about half the national average so no pretty low and then violent crime murder rape robbery and of course assault is about a quarter of the national average so should be zero very safe this is a safe
Starting point is 00:18:31 yeah people walking around doing their thing in this town very safe being in check yeah just being all check and you know singing songs and check and doing things that said let's talk about horrible murder here and just one of the weirdest twisted tales going first of all i must say that we know this story has been done by some other shows before normally we if we see it's been done by people we kind of avoid it um but we've never had one that's been recommended to us more okay so this is just a popular demand episode like it got to the point where it's like okay that's like the 50th person that's recommended this case it's getting to be like you know three of these recommendations for every other of any case so we said okay if you if you want it that bad we'll give it to you so the good news is i've
Starting point is 00:19:22 never heard a podcast that does true crime. So I'm going in the dark. This is terrific. Me neither. That's the other thing. I don't listen to true crime podcasts generally because we make one. Okay. Let's start off with talking about some people here. Let's talk about a young lady first.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Yeah. Okay. Here is Sydney Loof is her name. L-O-O-F-E. Loof. Sydney. She's 24 years old in 2017. So we'll start out there.
Starting point is 00:19:48 She was born in Broken Bow on August 21st, 1993. And she's Sydney Irene Loof. And her parents are George and Susie, who sound like parents. George and Susie. Yeah. Sounds like good parents to me. It's crazy that those were children at one point. But yeah, George and Susie sound who sound like parents, George and Susie. Yeah. Sounds like good parents to me. It's crazy that those were children at one point, but yeah, George and Susie sound like it.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Well, when they got together, people were like, yeah. I mean, even if they got together when they were 12, people would be like, well, you're getting married someday, we assume, George and Susie. Probably tomorrow, because you're going to be 35 tomorrow. You have good parental names, I'll just say that. They moved when she was seven. She's the middle child. There's three kids. She's good parental names. I'll just say that. They moved when she was seven. She's the middle child. There's three kids. She's the middle child. Her family
Starting point is 00:20:30 moved to Neligh, I guess it is. Neligh? Nelig? I don't know how the hell to say that. Like I said, I'm sure I'll be told. I don't care. I don't care anymore. Listen to last week and you'll understand. So N-L- N-E-L-I-G-H is how you spell it.
Starting point is 00:20:49 So that could be like 45 different pronunciations. Either way, it's not important because we're not going to mention it that often. She lives there and grows up there after she's seven. Her dad, George, is a high school principal and her mom is a teacher. So one of those families with the educator parents. Her dad, George, is a high school principal, and her mom is a teacher. Oh. One of those families with the educator parents. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:09 These probably usually make smart kids. Scandalous. Scandalous, yes. Look at them hooking up. Hooking up in the teacher's lounge. Yeah. We're not allowed to kiss here, but you guys do it. Ooh, look at you.
Starting point is 00:21:20 So Sydney graduated from high school there where her dad was principal. She graduated from that high school in 2011 and she works at Menards. Oh, yeah. Menards is a Midwest drugstore. No, I think it's more sporting goods type. Oh, yeah, you're right. And they have like like home improvement stuff there, too, and shit like that. Really?
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah. I know that's hardware with basketball. Kind of. Yeah. It's like an all encompassing from what i can gather from the commercials that i've seen okay you can get more at menards and all that shit yeah it's a very popular midwestern store i know that every product that's advertised on tv get it at menards yeah they get it whatever you got so i think they have everything there basically what it is yeah it seems like a that sort of store here so she works there i think her her brother and sister also work at menards oh so in lincoln so she ends up transferring later on to the uh the 27th street and corn husker highway menards location near lincoln okay so that's where she goes from her hometown this is
Starting point is 00:22:26 after high school and it's she's it's a transfer with menards they transferred her to another store yeah so she's uh you know young she's a kid there and um she said this is a quote from her brother levi who's her older brother her older brother said if i started to like something so did she except the lakers she gave me so so much crap about Kobe as much as she could. So, yeah, I think she might have read some stuff about Kobe and was like, fuck that. I'm not liking the Lakers. Jesus Christ. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:57 So here is how her cousin describes her. Her cousin grew up with her and spent a lot of summers with her and all that kind of shit. And they went to vacation Bible school that's those don't go together i'm gonna say isn't that a vac what you're getting vacations from things like bible school i would hope vacation is so you don't have to go to bible school i would hope so so they said that um one time her cousin said that she was uh riding a scooter being pulled by a jump rope. Oh, no. Sydney had the rope attached to her bike and was pedaling and was pulling along the scooter. And obviously, when the downhill part happens, physics take over and the kid falls down.
Starting point is 00:23:39 So the cousin fell off the scooter, scraped herself all up on the street. She said that, quote quote i was in so much pain and she just scooped me up and took me up the hill to my aunt they said she was very nice also she saved she saved one of her cousins or she saved her sister's life who was choking on candy and what she fucking grabbed her and heimlichter and shot the thing out and saved her so popped out the tootsie pop good yes so her family likes her in terms of not just because they're related to her they actually think she's a decent person that's what i mean like they're not just like i mean yeah she's a shithead but she's our shithead like it's nothing like that they actually like her as a person seems like a
Starting point is 00:24:17 decent person who does nice things um she's kept in touch with her family all the time kept in touch with her cousin um her mother and her they talk all the time even when she moves to Lincoln. Her cousin went and lived in the Pacific Northwest. And in 2017, she was talking to Sidney on the phone, her cousin was, and her cousin was trying to convince her to come and visit her and her husband in Washington. And they're saying she might like it here. Maybe she'll want to move here. Yeah. You know, rather than just working at Menards and Lincoln.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Probably not. But she might give it a run. Yeah. She likes to hike and she's a big outdoors person. She'll love it. Yeah. The mountains up there. Get yourself a North Face sweater and come on home.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Well, they're talking about exploring Patagonia up there, Jimmy. Yeah. That's some Patagonia shit up there. Yeah. Come on. They'll spit on your North Face in the Northwest. Like, no, no. This's some patagonia shit up there yeah come on they'll they'll spit on your north face in the northwest like no no this is all patagonia patagonia and fucking pendleton patagonia fleece with a patagonia puffer right on top of it god damn it that's how we do things up here uh they said she would have you know they wanted her to come explore like the mount rainier
Starting point is 00:25:20 area and all that kind of thing so they were trying to plan a trip where they could persuade her to maybe check out the Pacific Northwest and maybe start looking for jobs up there. So George also coached Sidney's junior high basketball team as well. He's the principal and he's also the coach. And he'll coach. He said she was naturally athletic she had a great baseline jumper oh so sydney could hit some jays from the baseline and she was also a golfer which is nice but during her teenage years she's diagnosed with scoliosis shit which
Starting point is 00:25:59 is rough and at that point she started to get pain that's why she got checked out and even swinging a golf club would hurt her back. Oh, I can't imagine. You're already twisted. You can't twist. No, that's really that really sucks, too. Yeah, that really sucks. So Sydney, as of 2017, she's working.
Starting point is 00:26:18 She lives in the Havelock area and works at the Menards at 27th and Cornhusker Highway there. So she's got a cat here named Mimsy. She got it as a... That's adorable. Mimsy. I never thought of that as an option. That's a great name. That is a great name.
Starting point is 00:26:36 It fits a kitten, too. Yeah, sure the fuck does. It sounds like a drunk lady. Mimsy. Come on, Mimsy. And cats are like drunk ladies. This serves your cocktail. Mimsy. Come on, Mimsy. And cats are like drunk ladies. This serves your cocktail, Mimsy. Get out here and drink it before the ice melts.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Genius name. Mimsy. It is a good name. She bought it from a guy on Craigslist for $20. $20? That's a bargain. I didn't realize cats were that cheap. Not bad.
Starting point is 00:27:01 It's a farm cat. Oh, great. Accident. Cats are free mostly, too. You can get free cats a lot. Yeah, you can get a cat for a can of cat food. You just put it by your front door. Yeah, $20 is about as much as people pay for a non-pet store cat, I guess.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah, just like an accident. Just like, please help take these cats. $20, it gets you that honest person that's willing to put money for monetary value on this animal. They might not be taking it home to sacrifice it. Right. They might not be collecting them for a burlap bag to throw off a bridge somewhere. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Or just being a crazy cat person that collects cats or whatever the hell. If there's monetary exchange, then maybe this person is going to be a normal person. We'll care for this thing. Now, Sydney is into, she likes crystals also. Okay, yeah. One of those gals. Her mom would come visit her and they'd go to a place where they'd browse for crystals.
Starting point is 00:27:57 She said she liked amethyst the most because purple's her favorite color. And also those quartz crystals were believed to have healing powers for physical ailments and emotional issues. Yeah. She's also got some depression issues, Sydney, as we'll talk about here. She's got some depression issues. She's on some medication.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I mean, it's 2017. There's plenty of people on some sort of mood-regulating medication. Incredibly common. Yeah, it's a lot of people. So, uh, her mother said, although Sidney struggled with depression and anxiety, she was a beautiful person. So she kept, she kept her crystal collection in a box and she'd occasionally put them out and look at them.
Starting point is 00:28:37 She'd dump them all on her bed and look at her crystals. So there are a lot of people that yank them out and rub them while they're laying in bed, reading a book or whatever. And that centers them. And it's a very common thing now. Whatever keeps you fucking sane is great. Whatever keeps you showing up to work tomorrow and doing a great job, do it. There are so many crazy bastards out there, and I don't mean crazy like, oh, depressed. I mean crazy like fucking, like you look at that person and go, you crazy shit. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:29:06 Why are you out of the house? So many of those people out there that if you can dump some crystals on your bed and it keeps you fucking anywhere in the realm of normalcy, then great. Good for you. Please continue with your crystals. So I understand that anybody who's paid attention to the media would have to come to the conclusion that I killed my wife. Hi, my name is Zach Stewart-Pontier. I'm one of the filmmakers behind The Jinx, and I'm excited to bring you the official Jinx podcast.
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Starting point is 00:30:40 by joining Wondery Plus and the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. They said there was multiple occasions where she took people in that were down on their luck and gave them a place to stay as well. Yeah. I guess a younger Menards co-worker was living in a very shitty place, living in bad living conditions. So Sydney helped him get on his feet, let him stay at her apartment,
Starting point is 00:31:04 taught him how to save money and balance a bank account and all that kind of thing. Helped him with hygiene and everything. Like, this is how you become a human. Okay. Get into social work. You are doing a great job. Here's your bank book. And here's the thing, though.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Normally, that never works out. That guy will end up. That's the murder story normally. Or she'll come home and her apartment's empty empty one of the two uh but this actually worked out he ended up wow be getting better and finding a place of his own and changing his life completely so they said that uh her brother said sydney was the poster person for caring more about others than herself she had a lot of friends at her job um she wanted to work with animals at a vet that's that was her her goal she wanted to get out of menards
Starting point is 00:31:52 and do that which those are usually nice people that work at the vets i'd love to until one shows up that you can't save i'll quit oh it's horrible i'm walking the fuck out those and the fact that they can stay on the job after that means that they're probably damn better people than us. That's a good person. We would run away, whereas these people are like, well, those animals need help too, the ones that are dying, you know?
Starting point is 00:32:16 So those are always the nice people, our vet that we take our dogs to. They swarm around them. Oh, it's Betty. Oh, it's Oscar. And they look and come and Yeah, they love him. My vet cannot get enough of Vaughn. It drives me nuts.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I'm like, just fucking express the gland so I can go home. This is horrible. Benny is the superstar of the vet, man. They all call him their boyfriend. He's a big 150-pound Cane Corso, but he acts like an old Italian man. That's the best way to describe it. He comes in all casual, walks behind the counter, says hi to everybody. The one time he was getting a thing done, so they had him in a cage,
Starting point is 00:32:55 and they must have forgot to lock the cage, so he just walked out. They said he walked out into the main area there, and one of the girls just went, Benny, and he put his head down, turned around, walked back in the cage. He walked back across, found the cage again, and one of the girls just went benny and he put his head down turn around walk back in the cage he walked back across found the cage again and went in it oh sorry my bad everybody i was allowed out you guys he just comes in ladies how we doing good all right what's for lunch today so hey how's the sauce today huh you got good gravy? How's the gravy working today? What's going on, sweetheart? So he pinches somebody's ass. She told her sister, Sydney did, that she wanted to either go to Colorado or maybe somewhere down south. She wasn't sure yet.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Thinking about different places. Her sister said she never followed through with it, though, because being close to her family is very important to her. She never followed through with it, though, because being close to her family is very important to her. So November 11th, 2017. She's on Tinder, by the way. Yeah. And she likes girls. That's another thing I should probably mention because that's what she's looking for on Tinder is girls.
Starting point is 00:34:00 So she starts. She finds a young lady named Audrey on Tinder. And both of them swipe right, and they're both talking. Bingo. So they have their first conversation November 11th, 2017. And it's introductions, talk of what kind of food do you like, what do you like to do. Oh, boy. Your normal, yeah, the smallest of small talk.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Oh, boy. Minuscule. It's how you should get to know people. So annoying, yeah, the smallest of small talk. Oh, boy. Minuscule. Which is how you should get to know people. So annoying, yeah. Yeah, but you don't want to get into something with someone and then find out that they're the opposite of you in every day thing. You never asked about their favorite meal, you big dummy. That's the thing. You like to fuck the same way, but nothing else works.
Starting point is 00:34:43 So that's going to be a bad relationship. You know what I mean? You got to have a balance there. So apparently the Audrey person said that she just made cornbread and black-eyed peas in this conversation. Oh. So she's cooking. And Sydney said that she was eating currently at Applebee's at the moment. So she is eating good in the neighborhood, and the other one is eating cornbread and
Starting point is 00:35:02 black-eyed peas. One's eating good in the neighborhood. The other one's eating cornbread and black eyed peas one's eating good in the neighborhood the other one's eating at applebee's applebee's the other one is eating appetizers for dinner and pretending like that's good half price half price well i got these apple fucking appetizers i almost called them they have blown it since they don't call them that no they really should call them appetizers but the applebee's is a place where i don't know if i've ever ordered an entree there just got the nachos you're like give me like seven of your shit you know you're like give me pretzel sticks and there's some of these things and a weird egg rolls that have corn in them for
Starting point is 00:35:41 no reason i won't eat those nuts i I'm out on those. Potato skins. Yeah, sure. Fucking throw it my way. What do you got? Riblets this week? Yeah. I'll take them. Great.
Starting point is 00:35:50 A couple of boneless chicken wings. Let's go. That's all everybody eats there. I think the rest of the menu, they don't even have that stuff. It's just- The rest of the menu is jokes. Decoration. It's for decoration.
Starting point is 00:36:00 What do you think? They have steaks there? Get the fuck out of here. They don't have steak there. There's have steaks there get the fuck out of here i don't have steak there there's no steaks in the back there's an appetizers list and then laffy taffy jokes yeah yeah nobody knows that because they don't get past the appetizers no you order the 12 ounce sirloin and it's just a bazooka joe joke on there who comes with a giant wrapper with a joke on it they're like that's a banana laffy taffy on a plate
Starting point is 00:36:25 then they bring you some spinach dip and riblets and that's your real dinner you knew that to begin with when you came in here didn't you there you go if you are shamed to the egg rolls have a weird egg roll cut diagonally there enjoy with shit in it that doesn't go in an egg roll yeah have that. So they're going. Have that. Applebee's taking some fucking shots this week. We're just swinging a haymaker's apple. Taking some fire here. So Audrey asks Sidney if Sidney likes casinos. So that should have been the end of the conversation. Yeah, I gotta go.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Sidney tells her she's only been to a casino once on her 21st birthday. It's like a go out and party thing. But they discuss maybe going to a casino on a future date. Maybe I'll take you to a casino. So November 13th, two days later, they start they start to set up their first date here. And Audrey, the young lady that Sydney has found on Tinder, suggests, quote, maybe meet somewhere in Lincoln, cruise and smoke. Smoke weed. They both smoke weed. Audrey's apparently a weed smoker and Sydney is definitely a weed smoker. And get to know each other a little bit. And I'll take you on a date to Riva, which is a steak and seafood restaurant. Oh, that's a nice joint.
Starting point is 00:37:47 At the casino, which is always the best steak and seafood. Riva. Or at a Nebraska reservation casino, usually, obviously. Landlocked. Yeah. Get your surf and turf there. Obviously. Hopefully they have raw oysters. Fingers crossed, because I know they're going to be fresh.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I know they're going to be fresh. So good. It's like whenever we're in Seattle, we always go to the one place and they have a huge oyster selection. We're like, we're treating ourselves and we eat a bunch of oysters. Same thing. Very similar. That's like on the ocean. You know, they just pull them out.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Same thing. Similar. Nebraska oysters. Nebraska oysters. So I'll take you on a date to the casino uh fucking steakhouse and pay for as much gambling as you want to do as much so this audrey chick's like i'll smoke you out yeah i'll smoke you out i'll buy you a big steak and you know rotten seafood dinner and then i'll you can lose my money i'll stake you up to 21 while the dealer beats us there all night.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I'll stake you. What's up? Let's do it. Yeah. Sydney replied, ha ha, okay, and then a smiley face with a colon and a parentheses thing. Sure, sure. I'm deaf down to cruise and smoke first. I haven't smoked in six days.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Oh. So she's looking to smoke here. She later explained, Sidney, that she was trying to quit, but didn't want to pass up the opportunity to smoke with a gorgeous girl. As she apparently likes the way Audrey looks and
Starting point is 00:39:17 offers to pay her, like, I'll chip in on the weed. I'll throw in on weed. Yeah, exactly. But Audrey said, quote, I have plenty of money, dear, and plenty of weed, LOL. I can give you some bomb-ass shit. Audrey's a baller. Audrey is, I got bomb-ass shit, steaks, fucking rank seafood, and I'll throw down some chips for you.
Starting point is 00:39:40 What up? We'll get food poisoning together. Let's get after it. She's like frank sinatra 1963 this broad she's fucking come on sweetheart we'll go to the casino go ahead and throw down you can use my dough toots like i think she probably talks like that we'll walk in through the kitchen we're gonna walk in through the kitchen they all know me here sweetheart i lose tons of money so audrey tells sydney she needs her address and uh sydney said okay tomorrow and later on audrey messages her back and says well i need your address so i can see how long it'll take to get there so i can
Starting point is 00:40:18 plan so sydney within a minute sends her address then like oh yeah that does make sense that she would need to plan that um so the audrey apparently did a google search of the address and made a reservation at the best western in lincoln as well oh she's not from lincoln so they were scheduled a time to meet on the evening of november 14th for their first date three days later yep and uh sydney asked just going to be me and you right which i would hope so on a fucking date that'd be weird otherwise no i brought like you know two cousins my grandma's here this is i'm bringing a dog or anything chick i used to hang out with in the sixth grade we're all here and uh audrey responded okay yes of course I don't know why the okay, but November 14th comes around and Audrey picks up Sidney.
Starting point is 00:41:09 They drive around Lincoln and they smoke some weed just before 6 p.m. They do their thing. A couple hours later, Audrey drops Sidney back off at home. Yeah. And they make plans to go out the following night as well. Day two. Yeah. So went well the first night.
Starting point is 00:41:28 They got to know each other. They smoked. They probably had some giggles in the car. Sure, sure. And now they're ready for, you know, another for a real date here. They know that they like each other. So November 15th, the next day, there's messages back and forth in the morning. Sydney went to work or shift at Menards just before noon at 12 23 p.m
Starting point is 00:41:45 audrey asks her via tinder how's your day going and um you know all that sort of thing and uh sydney replied back around 2 p.m going fine she messages with her friends uh here there's a friend named tara garrig who they message back and forth with they talk about the date she had the previous night and in the conversation sydney told about the date she had the previous night. And in the conversation, Sydney told her friend that she had a good time with Audrey and she hopes Audrey's single. Because on Tinder, you don't know what you're getting. So you don't know if this person's. Great point.
Starting point is 00:42:15 She could be married with three kids at home and just doing this on the side. You have no fucking idea. Dude, these TV shows that are out now about single people, 40% of them are in relationships. Oh, my God. It's fucking crazy. They're all in relationships. It's so crazy. It's a fucking landmine field out there, a minefield.
Starting point is 00:42:31 If they're doing that on TV, for Christ's sake, for everybody to watch, these people could be doing all kinds of shit behind people's back. Lord, that's a nightmare. I swear to God, I hope I'm never single again. But if Sarah decides she doesn't want anything to do with me anymore, I'm just going to go stand on a corner with a sign. Here I am. I'll have my stats. Anybody, please.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I can't do it. I can't do it online. I just can't do it. Just please. Anybody who wants to talk to me. I don't care anymore. If you want to chat, I'm right here. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:43:03 No, don't mess. No, right here. Right now. Just stop the car. Talk to me. I don't need money from you, I'm right here. I'm here. No, don't mess. No, right here. I'm here right now. Just stop the car and talk to me. I don't need money from you. I'm doing fine. Just please. Let's just chat about whether or not we like each other.
Starting point is 00:43:14 The only guy with a job who's on the corner going, please. So the text from Sydney to her friend said, she said she's down for anything, so I hope she doesn't have a boyfriend. I didn't ask. So, yeah, she's hoping this isn't just like on the side, whatever. You shouldn't have to ask, but I get it. She talked with her mom. She posted a selfie on Snapchat in a dressy shirt. She's normally kind of a jeans and T-shirt kind of chick, but she's in a dressy shirt that she wears like for, you know, Christmas or something.
Starting point is 00:43:50 And she said, ready for my date. So her mom, and this is a little bit nosy, I think. Her mom, she's 24 years old. She's not 16. Her mom took a screenshot of the photo and sent it to her and said, why didn't you tell me about your date? I mean, that could be confrontational or it could be, hey, I'm excited for you. The screenshot makes it like, what the fuck? Yeah, what is this shit?
Starting point is 00:44:13 If she just said, oh, you got a date I saw. Awesome. Where's your date? That would be. You could just say it. Yeah. I know that I got a date. That feels very parental for 24 is all I'm getting at.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Not in a bad way. She might just be concerned about her daughter or curious or whatever. Saw you've got a date. You want to talk about anything? If that was me, I'd be like. I don't need the screen grab. Yeah, if it was me, I'd be like, what are you screen grabbing my shit? None of your fucking business if I had a date.
Starting point is 00:44:41 That's why I didn't tell you. Yeah, I know we're friends on Facebook, Ma. Yeah. Christ's sake. And snapchat she's following so um snapchat snapchat she took oh my god so her daughter's phone got the message but then she didn't but she didn't reply to it okay and then um then she tried mom tried to call syd later, but it went straight to voicemail. So here's the date. Audrey picked Sydney up shortly before 7 p.m. And she typed here on Tinder, and that meant I'm here to pick you up.
Starting point is 00:45:19 And that's the last Tinder conversation they're going to have here. So they're going out, and she's picked up for the date. Sydney gets picked up. Phone records indicate that they traveled to an apartment in Wilbur at that point. And then at 8.08 p.m. there's no more records for Sidney's phone. Huh? Yes. There was, I guess, between 8.08 that night and when her phone connected with a cell phone tower near Wilbur, and 8.40 when her mom sent a text message that was never received.
Starting point is 00:45:51 So at 8.08, she pings a tower near Wilbur, and then her phone is now off and not receiving a text message at 8.40. That was fast. So sometime in there, something happens. So the next morning, November 16, 2017, Sydney doesn't show up to work at Menards. And she doesn't call in at all. And this is highly unlike her. I mean, she's a good employee. She got transferred to another Menards store.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Her brother and sister work there. She's responsible. This is a Menards family. They're not fucking around. You know what I mean? So they're loyal to the cause here. So they said it was very out of character for her not to arrive at a shift there. Their family then couldn't get a hold of her either.
Starting point is 00:46:33 They're calling her. They're calling her. Nobody can get through. It's going right to voicemail. So 5.08 p.m., her family reports her missing to Lincoln Police, saying she hasn't been heard from since 7 PM the night before and she didn't show up for work and it's not like her. So it's, they take that serious. They took it.
Starting point is 00:46:52 I, yeah, they're taking it pretty seriously at the moment. They, based on the fact that her mom said she had a date and now she's not coming home. It's a little more than just, I don't know. She just didn't call me. Right. You know, it's a little, and she's 24 she's 24 which obviously as an adult she can go wherever the fuck she wants and not call anybody that she doesn't want to fucking call that's absolutely right this is a girl that does that and that's she was talking to her yeah that's what's weird and she would had just been her daughter had just
Starting point is 00:47:19 visited her parents on the weekend of november 10th, which is just the previous weekend. Sydney had told her mom that she didn't think her medication for her depression and anxiety was working that previous weekend. Sometimes it stops. That's fucked. It's a recipe. Sometimes it needs a little more salt, a little extra garlic. It's the way it is.
Starting point is 00:47:40 When your body decides it doesn't give a fuck about paprika anymore, that's shitty. It has to be adjusted. It happens all the time to people. It's a way it is. When your body decides it doesn't give a fuck about paprika anymore, that's shitty. It has to be adjusted. It happens all the time to people. It's a big deal. It's not just like, well, that works. Take that for the rest of my life just in this dosage and everything will be perfect. That's not really how it goes because your brain chemistry changes too over time, which is messed up.
Starting point is 00:47:59 So they made a doctor's appointment for Monday of that week. And mom rode to Lincoln with her daughter then, and her dad followed in the truck, and they helped clean up her apartment on Colfax Street. By the way, she hates to clean. She would hire – she would pay her sister to do her dishes for her. Like, she just hated to clean. Not a big cleaner, Sydney. Not into it. More into cat petting and weed smoking and
Starting point is 00:48:27 chilling than fucking not a cleaner man do i fucking relate yeah she'd be like i'll give you 20 bucks if you wash my dishes like shit like that which at least she's not just leaving the dishes she will pay somebody to clean them but she just doesn't feel like doing it herself i got a washing machine and i will still pile them up in my fucking i put in a giant single bin sink just so that i can fit all my dishes just everything in there farm sink just i've gone out of my way to make doing dishes even fucking easier to to skip i just picture you standing there like fists on your hip like superman going ah now i can be an even bigger slob yes yes yes yes i'm a slob i can do even less work that's fucking great for some reason washing dishes is like a i love it it's a mind clearing weird i need every once in a while i need to do monotonous weird
Starting point is 00:49:23 tasks like that that are like in my mind clears it's a strange thing i like that like watering plants i'm weird i hate putting dishes that are dirty into the dishwasher and trusting that to clean them so i wash them before i put them in it you're supposed to and then it washes them again so it's like and then and then i always put that shit away well i would always then rinse them out of the dishwasher because I didn't trust that it wiped all the soap off. So I'd wash it. They didn't wash three fucking times. So I don't use the dishwasher for that reason.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I can't relate harder, man. I'm too nuts for the dishwasher. I don't trust a fucking thing. I just close the door and it does shit that I don't know. I don't know. It's so dumb. It's thumping. It's making grinding noises. I'm like, well, hopefully it's scraping something off of something there. I don't know what's making noises. It's thumping. It's making grinding noises.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Hopefully it's scraping something off of something there. I don't know what's going on. So it's grinding. There's no fucking arm mechanism in there. What's happening? It's just a fucking whirly bird that sprays water. I don't know where the grinding's coming from. What is that?
Starting point is 00:50:20 What's going on in there? Are little arms popping out? Are there little cleaning gremlins that come and scrub shit? There fucking better be because otherwise I don't want to eat off this shit. Yeah, otherwise I don't know how that's possible. So anyway, so they go to the, they bought her groceries. Her parents cleaned up her apartment. You know, you hook your kid up and here you go.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Got you reset again. They go to the doctor. They pick up Sydney's new meds and then her parents head home okay and then this all happens so her mom said she and i texted pretty regularly and um she said that she had her sydney said she was feeling better uh tuesday of that week saying that she felt a lot better and that it must be working the new new meds. So good deal. So they got to find her, obviously. She's not responding. Nobody can find her.
Starting point is 00:51:10 So her mom and her dad and her younger sister meet police on Friday morning at her apartment where her SUV is in the driveway and her cat's inside with no food or water. So cat inside without food or water is not going to happen. She wouldn't leave the cat without, because it's been like two days. So they said when the police sergeant said when he got into the apartment, her purse was on the counter also. But they didn't find a wallet or keys or a phone, which if you were going out late that night, you might just take your wallet and keys and phone and leave your purse behind. You might just take an ID and a credit card and that's it. That's what I mean. Exactly. Especially if someone's going to pay for your gambling. Right. So from that, they assumed, the cop assumed that either Sidney had never made it home or she left willingly. Right. That was what they thought. So they start trying to piece this together.
Starting point is 00:52:06 One of her friends, she had sent one of her friends a picture of this Audrey person she went out with. Oh, yeah. From Tinder. So that gets moved to her sister. That friend sends that picture to her sister, and they're like, okay, so they're trying to do this. Another friend of hers set up a Tinder trying to do this um another friend of her set up a tinder profile to try to get a hold of this audrey person oh she's on she's on tinder her name's audrey this is what she looks like so if i can find her i can message her and i can
Starting point is 00:52:35 fucking get her to tell me what's up basically search people you got to be able to search people on tinder right i guess i mean it's it's an idea anyway. Certainly, yeah. It's something. Put in the parameters of what she is and hope she pops up. Because, I mean, it would have her profile info. I don't know what Tinder looks like. I don't know. I don't know. I picture it like in a movie, like when they're in like a CIA computer room and they pull up like an international terrorist and they have like his picture and his statistics under it and height weight and what he's been arrested for and all
Starting point is 00:53:07 his whole like little sleeve i picture that's what tinder profile would be i don't know it should be yeah that's what i'm saying like a law enforcement fucking you know suspect card basically that's what that's what it should be so they're're searching around. They're searching around. They can't find her. November 19th comes around. Oh, God. They're searching. Now it's Lincoln police and county sheriff's deputies are searching Wilbur where she was last seen. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:35 They're looking at Wilbur. They're looking in Lincoln. The family is searching, too. They take to social media and they have a find Sydney Loof page that they put up as well. And they're trying to have people help look for the search. They put her picture on billboards on I-80, on Interstate 80 in Omaha and in central and downtown Lincoln. How fast did they do this? Very fast, within a few days.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Wow. Within a few days. This family is on it. Everybody's focused from the second this this starts here so um within like a week this is all going on front page uh articles and it's the lead story on all the local news wow where is she uh the boys of the valentine high school basketball team which her brother Levi coaches, put green ribbons on their shoes and their opponents wore green warm-up gear, too, to show. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Because green was the color here, even though her favorite color was purple. I don't know. It's weird. Amethyst. Yeah. So Levi said, I'm a teacher and a coach, and it almost felt like all the moms of the boys that I coached started to treat me as one of their own. They felt bad.
Starting point is 00:54:45 November 21st comes around now. This is almost a week that she's gone. What the fuck? The Lincoln Police Chief, Jeff Blymeister, calls her disappearance, quote, concerning. Mr. Blymeister. I think you're underselling the concern here a little bit. You've got billboards up and no response yeah this is panic man what would be what would be more beyond concerning what would it take for
Starting point is 00:55:11 you to be more than concerned like the alien ships need to be within like eyesight or can we just pick them up on radar before you're going to be concerned yeah would your marriage be concerning if you caught her blowing somebody? Because that's where we're at, man. Caught her making a date or blowing somebody, which would be concerning for you. And when you caught her, she didn't stop? Because that's where we're at. Yeah. She was like, hold on a second. That would be weird. Hold on a second. That would be very disrespectful at that point that's where we're at that's the
Starting point is 00:55:46 level of concern you should be you should be it should be in the red at this point it should definitely be mumbling dick mouth concern that's that level of concern mumbling dick mouth is a that's a level of concern that we need to reach here so november 28th 2017 now a week later even after it's concerning um they named two people the police do publicly named two people as as persons of interest in the case they like to talk to two people and they are uh bailey bailey m boswell. Bailey Boswell, double B. That's a young lady. She's 23. And a man named Aubrey C. Trail, who is 51.
Starting point is 00:56:33 What? Those are the people of interest they'd like to talk to. That's an odd coupling. Well, yeah. Let's talk about them and how they ended up as even in the same sentence as each other. What about Audrey? They would be. Well, that's what we're going to find out here. Now, Bailey Boswell grew up in Iowa in a town called Leon. I'm sure that's not how you pronounce it
Starting point is 00:56:52 even though that's how it's spelled and said in the entire world. In a community of about 2,000 people. So, small town up there just north of the Missouri state line. Everybody said she's a friendly kid from a good family, was a really good athlete, once scored 25 points in a high school basketball game. Oh. And is listed as a member of the fastest 200 meter relay team in central Decatur community school history.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Oh. Some sort of record. Her team is fast as shit. Some sort of record setting team. She was known as a girl who liked to dress up very girly, wear false eyelashes and all that kind of shit. She had one criminal concern in high school, and that was failure to use a seatbelt was a ticket she got the worst. So a good kid, one of her friends here, a neighbor, said everyone thought she was going to go to college and play basketball. But after graduating from high school in 2012 shit went a little sideways for her um yeah she started to get involved with drugs her friend here who works at the local
Starting point is 00:57:56 casey's convenience store by the way so now we know what casey's is um said that quote she got into a bad crowd she kind of went on a bad path. So after high school, she moved to northern Missouri, which is ill-advised always for anybody. I mean, that's just southern Illinois. It's southern Illinois or, you know, Iowa. Eastern Iowa. Yeah, eastern Iowa. She ends up having a child when she moves there with a former high school football player that she knew.
Starting point is 00:58:38 In February 2016, she filed a protection order against this former high school football player and father of her child who was living with her in Trenton, Missouri, alleging emotional and physical abuse. Now, as of 2017, the toddler was living with her parents in Iowa. So neither of them are good for this kid. Neither of them have been deemed to be worthy of raising this child. Perfect. In May of 1980, near Anaheim, California, Dorothy Jane Scott noticed her friend had an inflamed red wound on his arm and seemed unwell. She insisted on driving him to the local hospital to get treatment. She insisted on driving him to the local hospital to get treatment. While he waited for his prescription, Dorothy went to grab her car to pick him up at the exit,
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Starting point is 01:01:43 Wondery Plus and the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. In April 2016, Boswell was arrested for possession of marijuana and use of drug paraphernalia in Lincoln and then failed to appear for the court hearing after that. Oh? Yeah. a young woman fascinated by serial killers and torture who sometimes likes to act like a cat and wear a collar and nothing else, just a cat collar, while eating out of a pet dish on the floor. Okay. So it just got a little weirder for old Bailey Boswell here. She took a hard left turn.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Yeah, and we've come across a couple of these leash people. Yeah. We've come across a couple of them. Yeah. And we've come across a couple of these leash people. Yeah. We've come across a couple of them. Yeah. And I'm not going to say anything to or fro on that. That's whatever. But she's just nude wearing a collar eating out of a dish on the floor. It's a little weird.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I'm sorry. You're not pretending to be a cat. You're just naked eating out of a bowl on the floor. It's aberrant behavior, let's just say. You can say, oh, it's fine or something. Great, I'm sure. If someone's fucking you from behind, that makes you cum, great. But if you just do that for no reason because you feel like doing it,
Starting point is 01:02:57 I'm going to call you a tad bit fucking weird. Sorry. You can't do that with my kids over. Hold on. Hold on. Judging it weird there you go not small town murder approved behavior yeah stop eating the turkey like that my grandma's here it's thanksgiving stop it it is christmas eve that is not one of the seven fishes okay i'm I'm just going to say that. Let's move on. Put your clothes on.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Starkist is not one of the seven. No, it's not. That's wild. That's what's going on here, basically. Yeah, it's the beating out of the pet dish on the floor that makes it weird. If you just want to wear a collar and get naked, whatever do whatever you want but when you're like no no put mine down on the floor so i can eat it on all fours i'm gonna call you a little strange so yeah and each step was like just going further and further you know what i mean like she's only 23 arrested for weed okay
Starting point is 01:04:02 don't show up for the hearing come Come on. Just fucking figure it out. Yeah. Modern day. Get the penalty out of your fucking mind. Pay your $100 and move on. Right. And then everything just further and further down until there? There.
Starting point is 01:04:17 From don't show up to cat dish? Lincoln's a college town. I can't imagine the penalties for first time weed possession are that fucking harsh. You know what I mean? I don't know. Couldn't be. If you like weed, get out of the center of the country. Get out of there also.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Go to fucking Illinois. It's legal right there. Missouri, it's legal also. You just got to get to the edges. You can't be right in the middle. Or Missouri or Illinois. Or Michigan. There's a fucking bunch of them that are illegal.
Starting point is 01:04:42 That's the edge. It's beyond geography now, obviously, besides besides the south we're talking about logic here so yeah that's a different story but it's basically the edges it's the edges so the other man who's a person of interest is aubrey c trail trail t-r-a-i-l trail yeah he's 51 he's from's from Tennessee originally here. He's been together with Boswell for about 14, 15 months, 51 and 23. What the fuck? Oh, it's a weird one, too. They've been living in a basement apartment, of course, in Wilbur.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Oh, my God. Yes, Bailey Boswell from the basement. Yeah. Who likes to eat from pet bowls is weird. People who saw them together in Wilbur just assumed they were father and daughter at first. You should. A town of 1,700 people. They just assumed, oh, some father and daughter just moved in until they saw them holding hands. And then everyone was like, what the the why is he making out with his
Starting point is 01:05:46 daughter jesus fucking christ that's a in in public um people just assume that uh people thought they were engaged in pennsylvania he has a lengthy criminal record here does he weird right strange for this show now they're gonna be an angel. A 51-year-old dating a 23-year-old? In a basement? Right. In Wilbur? In his questionable past? Who wears collars and eats off the floor?
Starting point is 01:06:12 Yeah, that's normal. I'm sure she does. Yeah. I'm sure it's all very normal. He went to prison for the first time for armed robbery at 17. My God. 30-something years ago. Yup.
Starting point is 01:06:24 He's done stints in Nebraska prison for forgery and passing bad checks. And he's also had crimes in Minnesota he was in jail for. He's been in and out of jail his whole life, basically. He's a scumbag. He went to prison long before she was even born. Way before she was born. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, he was out of prison by the time she was born.
Starting point is 01:06:44 And he's already with a with a fucking stretch under him which is wild so the pierce county sheriff here said he remembered trail he remembered aubrey aubrey trail quote and not in a good way is that right that's what he said didn't like him um now people from antique shops and malls in omaha lincoln falls city nebraska and also hiawatha kansas said that aubrey trail frequents their shops all the time okay uh most said they were aware of his record of using bad checks and he his favorite things were antique toys and advertising signs and um others others said he used to show up with two young women in tow just a couple of young women two two young women uh in recent months it looks like he's been working
Starting point is 01:07:32 with bailey boswell doing antique stuff so they buy antiques and sell antiques is what they're doing here sure um so they uh apparently they're wanted for crimes involving passing bad checks. What they did in April of 2017, same month she was arrested for weed. Maybe this is why she didn't show up in court. She was busy. She went to Pennsylvania. The two of them went to Pennsylvania, Boswell and Trail, and acted like they were big, rich people. They acted like high rollers here.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Yeah. One person said they, quote, put on a pretty good show at an antique coin auction in York County, Pennsylvania here. She showed up in high heels, stylish slacks, and a nice blouse and all this type of shit. She's got tons of tats on her. They're all covered up,
Starting point is 01:08:22 and she's trying to look very professional. Audrey, who initially portrayed himself as her father came in with a sweater vest a chauffeur's hat and a walking cane he just tried to dress like mr peanut and he was like they'll think i'm rich he twirled it and he was like that'll fucking do it i twirled it there's no way people who aren't rich don't twirl. I just see Peter Griffin trying to be a rich guy. That's exactly what he is. He's like 300 pounds, too.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Get out of here. He's a big, fat, 50-something-year-old guy going, I'm rich. Look at my walking stick and my hot daughter. Just weird. Yeah. Is she adorable? Is she a cute chick? No, she's cute she a cute chick yeah she's cute yeah yeah she's cute and uh how the fuck does he do this you'll find out there's way more than meets the eye here this is we haven't scratched the surface here uh this person who at the auction said they presented
Starting point is 01:09:17 themselves as high rollers and they produced a letter from a bank in Leon, Iowa, indicating they had money to bid and that they were, quote, players. So later on here, he ends up writing checks for twenty eight thousand two hundred ninety eight dollars for antique gold and silver coins. And of course, they weren't good checks. They were frauds. He's thirty grand off. Thirty grand. Yeah. And the auction person said they were very professional.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I bet they sold the coins and had a heck of a party. They're also suspected in theft and bad check cases from several states totaling between $300,000 and $500,000. This is a professional operation. What is going on? This is not, you know, every once in a while they do this and pay the rent. This is what they do. They're stacking money this way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:08 This is like a, that's what, they're like the antique wing of the mafia, basically. Like, this is how, you know, what'd you get out of them fucking lamps this week? Here's your envelope. Here's your cut. Bizarre. So, Boswell, there's charges waiting for Boswell. She's wanted for three felony theft and bad check charges in Pennsylvania. She had posted $7,500 in bail and took off there.
Starting point is 01:10:31 So the file in Pennsylvania indicate that the Farmers Bank in Leon also reported Boswell passed a fraudulent check of $15,391 in Kansas. check of $15,391 in Kansas. So they say they've crisscrossed the country and they visit casinos in Vegas and council bluffs. They buy antique coins in Gettysburg and they go see shows in Branson. Wow. They said, we love Branson. They're partying like it's 1986. They're partying like they're 86 is what it is.
Starting point is 01:11:04 They're partying like they got to get home for Golden Girls later. So in Wilbur here, their rented basement apartment here, it's right by the town's high school. They've lived there for about six months, and everyone in town's been talking about them. First they were father and daughter. Now they're holding hands. has been talking about them. First they were father and daughter. Now they're holding hands. One neighbor said he noticed the two that
Starting point is 01:11:28 they were arguing a couple of times and they hurried to leave one time. He also said that they didn't return his friendly waves. They don't wave back, those weirdos. He said, I just thought, that's not very Wilbur-like.
Starting point is 01:11:44 In this town, we wave. Not very Wilbur-like. In this town, we wave. Not very Wilbur-like is a great fucking quote. We are check and friendly about it. No shit. The local convenience store people said that Bailey would come in alone, Boswell, most of the time to buy cigarettes and pay for gas. She dressed nicely and had manicured nails, they all said. Yes, she dressed nicely and had manicured nails, they all said. There is a hotel manager here, the Grand Island Hotel Manager, a Kearney Hotel here. They have detailed surveillance footage of Aubrey and Boswell and a friend of theirs checking in and out of hotels three days after Sidney went missing.
Starting point is 01:12:25 So we know they've been around there. three days after Sydney went missing. Okay. So we know they've been around there. They said they trio checked in about 1.19 p.m. on November 22, 2017. If that was me, they would have made me wait until fucking 5 o'clock. How dare they? It's not check-in time. Not check-in time yet, chief. But they said they left the hotel literally 20 minutes later with all of their luggage.
Starting point is 01:12:45 And they said it was the day before Thanksgiving. We honestly thought it was a dad and two daughters. We thought maybe they had family in town and just didn't trust leaving their luggage. But then they never came back. Okay. So, yeah. They said that they were moving around, going to Iowa motels and going to missouri in the next couple weeks so while they're searching for sydney this is what's going on while they're being announced
Starting point is 01:13:09 as you know people of interest here so uh they also they get cell phone data that tracks aubrey trail and bailey boswell on the day that sydney, showing that they, it looks like from the way the footage, the way everything comes out, the GPS stuff, that they basically followed Sidney to work that day. Where they, where Trail went in, not Bailey, she stayed in the car. Trail went in and bought, this is quite the fucking package a hacksaw a utility knife boxes of trash bags duct tape and four roasting pans what the fuck man i don't like where that's going that is a horrible kit to buy there so november 29th 2017 comes around and they post a social media. They post two social media videos, Boswell and trail here. Boswell posts one claiming that because it's been announced publicly that they're persons of interest.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Yeah. So they're like wanted and they're floating around. So she claims that she and Sydney drove around Lincoln, smoke some weed, actually wax and shatter, concentrates. She wrote this. She put this video online. She put this video. She posted one to the Finding Sidney Lou fucking Facebook page. The next one I'm going to talk about.
Starting point is 01:14:37 This will smooth things over. Oh, wow. Does it not? Oh, boy. She said we smoked some wax and shatter at at her apartment and then she went back and dropped sydney off at a friend's house and she said she hadn't heard from sydney since that was somebody tell the cops for me i gotta go it's all good i'm just posting it here someone pass this along idiot then they post a new video denying any involvement in her disappearance this is the
Starting point is 01:15:01 one where bailey says i'm audrey i'm audrey i'm the one who said i was audrey i hung out with her she smoked her sort of just with her name while also in her intentions and everything else it's weird it's the opposite catfish like her appearance is the only thing that's sort of real yeah everything else is fake everything else is bullshit which is the opposite of usually cat which is basically what tinder is now no that's essentially that's tinder the opposite of usually cat which is basically what tinder is now now that's essentially that's tinder the opposite of catfish so authorities are searching creek beds and ponds in the wilbur and clitonia areas oh my god clatonia not clitonia clitonia sounds like a that's a great place a planet of just porn women just welcome to clitonia that's that's a great place. A planet of just porn women. Welcome to Clitonia. That's a porn movie from 1983.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Welcome to Clitonia. It's all naked women. It's the old Greg Giraldo joke. It's just women that give blowjobs for nickels, and you've got a pocket full of nickels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. You're the only guy, and they just give you nickels. Tons of nickels.
Starting point is 01:16:01 And it rains nickels. That's Clitonia. That's clitonia that's clitonia this is different so all these investigators spent hours combing roadside ditches and cornfields in southeastern clay county searching for any sign of sydney here uh patrol state police patrol helicopters are all over the place looking ponds creeks you name it. They're just, they're doing this. And while they're doing this, this Facebook video that she posts, that Bailey Boswell posts. Oh, God, what a bad idea. She's denying any involvement.
Starting point is 01:16:35 It was removed after two hours, but it was then saved and posted, obviously. People saved it. In this trail, Aubrey says, quote, they're chasing us around like dogs. Ew. It's a nine-minute clip. Nine? Yes. It's not just a quick thing.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Bailey Boswell's wearing dark clothing. She's wearing sunglasses. She's in a vehicle, and they don't know where it is or where it's taken. She identifies herself as Boswell, said she went on dates, dropped her off at a friend's house, hasn't heard from her since. The trail says he and Boswell issued a statement to police and tried reaching out to investigators in the days following the disappearance. But their calls went unreturned. You know, people of interest, you'd never call them back. I've been leaving messages for y'all.
Starting point is 01:17:21 I left my phone numbers. I left like my room number at the best western gave you my yahoo email they had they claimed they haven't turned themselves in because they're wanted on warrants for other crimes so they're like we haven't come in to talk to them and clear the whole thing up because then we're just gonna get arrested for the other shit we're wanted for so what do you what's your fucking plan man well then at another part of the video aubrey trail says as far as i know i'm not wanted for anything i'm a person of interest and i'm not really running from anything this has pretty much cost me my life i pray for sydney i hope she's found soon i wish the family
Starting point is 01:17:57 the best i'm sorry she wasn't with you on thanksgiving but then he says he dismissed a bunch of theories saying that you know we're the killers and he said quote not saying i'm a nice guy i'm a this is how he starts not saying i'm a nice guy yeah he said i'm a crook i'm a thief have been all my life okay but i'm not what you're trying to make me out to be i'm a thief but i goddamned. I've never killed anyone in my whole life. That's their video. So see you around. So that should clear it on up now.
Starting point is 01:18:33 And post that to the fucking Facebook page that her family put up. Wow. So if I'm her dad, I'm like, well, I'm hunting this man now. And I'm sure George thought the same thing. I'm going to get something that he's touched and I'm getting a bloodhound that i'm sure george thought the same thing i'm gonna get something that he's touched and i'm getting a bloodhound i'm not stopping till i catch him i will kill him so uh the lincoln's public safety director said quote blows my mind is like wow are you in panic mode yet man they said closest to now yeah what uh concerned are
Starting point is 01:19:03 you concerned any concerns growing they said closest analogy I can make would be the access reporters sometimes got to interview criminals, suspects in the pre 1963 era. So pre Miranda reporters would get to talk to subjects before their court cases and they'd really talk a lot. talk a lot. Another guy here said, this is a guy who teaches forensic science courses at the University of Nebraska, said, to me, they were kind of acting like Bonnie and Clyde or James Dean, a rebel without a cause type of thing. Said he's never seen such brazen posts in any
Starting point is 01:19:36 case ever. This is wild. New frontier of assholery here. Yeah, so gross. They said they wouldn't say if police are able to trace the video and wouldn't confirm a rumor that they found Sidney's cell phone buried in a yard. Okay, so they're looking everywhere. They're like digging up with big backhoes. And I mean, they've started to dig now because they don't know where else to look anymore.
Starting point is 01:20:03 They feel like they've kind of searched all the surface areas. So police say they've received an overwhelming amount of tips from social media and phone calls and everything else. But they still don't have the two idiots they're looking for. And they still haven't found Sidney's body as well or anything about her. They say that she has a yin-yang tattoo on one of her forearms, the word believe with a cross on the inside of her wrist, and the phrase everything will be wonderful someday on her right bicep. Those are her tats.
Starting point is 01:20:36 That's a cool thought. She's 5'7", 135, last seen wearing a white Columbia jacket. Yeah, see, she wouldn't work at all in Washington. Columbia's not so bad. They respect that. I feel like at the airport you could trade that in for a Patagonia. You'd be like, I'm moving here. Oh, okay, hold on. Columbia's headquarters is there, though.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but still, they're getting crushed. They're just getting crushed up there. They're getting their ass kicked by the Patagonia. God damn it. This Patagonia is the whitest fucking clothes ever made. And it just sells like wildfire up there. It's got pink and blue on every piece. And they buy it.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Rappers used to wear Columbia in the 90s. That's right. It screwed everything up for us. So she's wearing that in a cream colored shirt last time she was seen. And so they put out a warrant for Aubrey Trail, the outstanding warrant. He is accused of being a felon in possession of a firearm and a habitual criminal. So just an everyday, just a huge asshole we need to get in here. He's an actual scumbag.
Starting point is 01:21:38 He's a huge scumbag. So he's lived in different Missouri towns recently, they said. They're trying to find him. He's known to the antique dealers. So they're talking to the antique dealers. And one says that he came in about a month ago. And, yeah, other people say that Boswell and Aubrey rented several display cabinets to sell vintage glassware and toys beginning in June. Another one said here,
Starting point is 01:22:06 um, November 28th, 2017. Uh, wow. Uh, Blymeister's out there again, Mr.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Concerned. Oh boy. And he said, uh, you know, they, they're looking at social media and cell phones and debit and credit cards. And he said all those different avenues that we're looking at and should be
Starting point is 01:22:23 looking at in order to identify where Sydney was, where Bailey Boswell and Aubrey Trail may be. I'm concerned. November 30th, Bailey and Aubrey are arrested on unrelated warrants and they start to question them. Where'd they get them? I think it's near Lincoln here. They went really far. Well, they came back because they were in Missouri before that. So he's held on a misdemeanor warrant for missing a court date, or she is.
Starting point is 01:22:52 That's the weed case there. And he's being held on a newly filed case where he's being accused of being a habitual criminal with a gun. So they said that they're trying to work out the details. The police said we'll still work toward the end of the murder thing. But again, the announcement, that's not what he said. That's what I said. He left that part out. He didn't say the murder thing.
Starting point is 01:23:14 On TV. We're trying to work out this murder thing. This murder thingy we got going on. We'll figure that out. I don't know. We got a piece of shit. Not a real scumbag habitual scumbag the analysis of the digital records is what led us to the discovery of who we uh who we of maybe people who know where sydney is so uh yes they were uh charged with when they were arrested by the way they were charged with unlawful
Starting point is 01:23:42 transportation of stolen goods valued at five thousand dollars or more from hiawatha kansas and uh there's all sorts of jurisdictions dinging in with uh we have charges for them we have charges for them still no sydney though oh my god the father is pleading george luff said in my opinion somebody knows something please do the right thing and yeah they they asked the lincoln police chief bleimeister mr concern there jeff concern bleimeister if there's a if there's any hope she could be found alive right and he says yes absolutely gee jeff let's let's all let's treat everyone like four-year-olds now at this case two weeks our hope is waning.
Starting point is 01:24:27 We'd love it. That'd be great. That'd be fantastic. Not looking good at this point. A very sweet, predictable girl has been missing for two weeks and didn't come home for Thanksgiving. You fucking moron. Come on. Not like that.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Just say hope is dwindling, but we're retaining a little bit for the family's sake. Yeah. Something. Just say her mom and dad aren't in the room right yeah look over your shoulder yeah if you see her parents around ear earmuff it quick george and suzy would you and then say we're we're not looking it's not looking good it's not looking great we're trying our hardest so So December 4th, 2017, Sidney's body is found. Oh, God damn it. It is an open area of Clay County. It's described as a very cold day, very windy.
Starting point is 01:25:13 So windy that they're having trouble hearing each other, the cops. Blymeister's like, well, we still have some hope. Fucking moron. We can maybe bring her back. We're doing cpr giving all life-saving measures at this time well and they're gonna need it because there's this is not just a body that they find it's worse than that um oh god they were trying to cover a 30 square miles area by foot searching for clues that they swept out 30 square miles to try to find. So the the officer was sent.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Officers were sent north of country or County Road 308 and Road South near Edgar, where based on phone records, it looks as if Aubrey and and Bailey had slowed or stopped in this area based on their phone records. So they said they found something nearly right away at that point really they found first a black plastic trash bag oh no with arms protruding oh what the fuck including part of a right arm yeah with a tattoo that said it will all be wonderful someday on it jesus christ so that's not good obviously um they said what they asked is that the first body part found and they said yes um sydney's been dismembered in a horrible way here in an extra horrible way this isn't like a mafia way, like for easiest transportation.
Starting point is 01:26:45 This is she's cut into 14 pieces. Why? That's overkill. There's no need for that. What the hell is happening? There's no need for that unless it's to put her in suitcases. That's the only thing I could think of. So she's stuffed into many garbage bags in a field out here.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Nearly a dozen trash bags dumped along a gravel road. It's fucking disgusting. They search. They said they had to stop searching because of the wind. So they couldn't even hear each other. And that's crazy. Yeah. Also in this, they found some body parts in the first bag, also a portion of a map, a sheet or a shower curtain with stains that look like blood on it as well. So they said, one cop said, this is what I saw.
Starting point is 01:27:35 It's a bag that was partially torn open with human remains protruding from the bag. So the next morning they went out there and found 17 separate scenes, they said, is what they called them. Where they found body parts or evidence like clothes, garbage bag, boxes, a tarp, all this shit. Body cut up into 14 pieces. They recovered all but one piece as well. I don't even want to know. Upper left arm. Oh. Weird. I don't even want to know. Upper left arm. Oh. Weird.
Starting point is 01:28:07 I think maybe an animal took it. There's also organs missing that they don't know why. They don't understand that at all. The autopsy shows signs that she was killed during some kind of struggle. She didn't explode into 14 pieces, so we assume there was something. They said there was a small bump on the back of the tops of her wrists that are from restraints and scrapes on her back as well. And one of her earlobes had been torn, they said, soon before death as well. Like had her earring ripped out of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:39 So they said they were able to conclude that the death was a homicide, obviously, meaning that she died by another's hands, they said here. And they brought in a forensic anthropologist who specializes in saw and knife mark analysis in dismemberment cases. Imagine being that guy. That's a depressing job. Yeah. Every day it's like, well, this is worse than yesterday. Here's a, wow. Another bone with saw marks in it.
Starting point is 01:29:07 He said, the reason I know it's a hacksaw is I'm getting very fine teeth. Tiny teeth. Tiny teeth. So they said a lot of the findings, too, in their totality would be consistent with strangulation. There's a hyoid bone issue as well. There's a hyoid bone issue as well. They said that they described hemorrhaging of the eyes all over the face, backup of blood in the head, and the bleeding and bruising of the tissues of the lower half of the neck, strangulation. Also described injuries that would have happened in the minutes or hours before her death. There was a tear on the earlobe, like we said, where the earring would have been.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Small bruise on the back of her head. Three contusions on her upper back, and a deep bruise on her inner left thigh. They also found patterned injuries on the pinky side of her hands, like those commonly seen when a restraint of some kind is used. They also found
Starting point is 01:30:00 in the area sex toys, a dog leash, a plastic sauna suit were found among the shit there oh one of those yeah like you'd covered like you'd wear to dismember somebody right yeah yeah um and sex toys and a dog leash what is this uh yeah this is fucking disturbing here um the next day after they found this, police chief fucking Blymeister, Mr. Obviously Concerned here, announces that foul play is suspected in her death. My God, sir. This guy is Mr. Let's Take It Slow. Let's Take It Slow.
Starting point is 01:30:41 He's been dating his wife since 1974. Just dating, yeah. No kids. One of these days, we're going to get a little more serious. I was going to say, if this guy, if the Charles Manson case was in his jurisdiction, he would have gone like, I want to talk to a few more people first. He seems like a little weirdo. Don't get me wrong. me wrong but i mean the one beach boy said he wasn't too bad a feller and uh there's some things we need to talk about really before we start putting labels on him like murderer and cult
Starting point is 01:31:10 leader and things awfully small i don't think he could do much i don't think he had the little feller had it in him is what i don't think so this is why aubrey trail leads them to Sidney Loof's phone. Oh, oh, yep. It snapped in half near a cemetery just outside of town and thrown out a car window, he said, as they headed west to Clay County to dump her remains. They tossed a cell phone. Oh, he knows. He knows how bad. Oh, it's. Oh yeah um they a lot of
Starting point is 01:31:47 this they said was through electronic shit this is how they found everything what did he think that's he really think he was gonna get away with that that's the well he's gonna use that to his advantage and go obviously i didn't do it because i wouldn't have done that and done this. He's got excuses. Yeah, they said that, wow, they looked for everything, digital footprint, cell phones, you know, when it dinged on towers, but also online apps, Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, all these different shit, credit card purchases, ATM visits, then video cameras. Fucking idiot.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Video cameras, everything's cameras. Fucking idiot. Video cameras. Everything's on video in 2007. So if your cell phone says you stopped here, then they go, well, let's find the video of that. And they find them walking into a fucking store and they do all that shit. They watch them go out into gas stations and inside businesses. They used to have to get warrants for landline phones and they'd piece together dates and all. It used to be a really hard thing. But this digital shit is super easy.
Starting point is 01:32:49 It's all wide open. If you watch the first 48 from the last few years, they don't even ask you shit. They sit you down and go, give us your phone. And then they go, dump all your phone, find out exactly what happened, and then come in and tell you, we saw exactly what happened on your phone. And then the people go, oh, fuck. And they either deny it or admit it but there's no they don't even question people anymore hardly they just go show us your phone you weren't there give us your phone oh shit ah damn it can i not no you can't give me my goodness uh they also said another dumb thing here. Usually it's not just one thing.
Starting point is 01:33:26 This is in this case. Don't use this verbiage, please. It's a lot of little pieces that all start coming together. Who the fuck said that? That is my master. Is that blind? No, no, no, no. It isn't.
Starting point is 01:33:37 That's Barksdale. Barksdale. Not Avon Barksdale. Fucking dipshit. A different Larry Barksdale, a former Lincoln police investigator who retired in 2012 with 40 years of experience, said that. 40 years. 40 years. Didn't tell him, don't say that in a dismemberment case.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Yeah, in the last five years since retirement, you've forgotten to have a little bit of fucking sensitivity, you dickhead. Maybe he retired because he was forgetting stuff. Let's just put it that way. 40 years on the job. He may have opened his mouth a few times and was like, maybe I'll just retire. He was going a little fucking stunad, so he retired. Now he's all who bots at home, just fucking. Fucking asshole.
Starting point is 01:34:16 So somehow after her arrest, Bailey Boswell makes a Facebook video. I don't know how this happened. What is going on? After she's arrested, she explained that she met Sidney on Tinder. They drove around. Same thing. Had a great time. We're planning on going to the casino.
Starting point is 01:34:33 I gave her my number. Haven't heard from her since. So she's sticking to that story. She's trying to proclaim innocence? Yeah. Tell the cops. The family was grateful that Siddney was found anyway they were very grateful and they wanted they said the entire state and beyond tried to help and in our minds a
Starting point is 01:34:50 lot of good people exist in this world sydney just happened to run into someone that wasn't which is an incredibly healthy attitude to have during this like we're not just healthy but the strength in that statement is crazy that's i, they saw that there are decent people. And just because one person's a scumbag or two people in this case, maybe, you know, don't judge the world, basically. So 1,500 people came to a memorial for her. They said cars were lined up around the block of the church. It's a small town you know the town is uh the neelye town very small and no room for 1500 people but they come
Starting point is 01:35:32 there anyway and uh you know everybody still had fine sydney written on their cars and shit like that it was it's fucking horrible um so aubrey trail decides okay i'm looking pretty bad here i should get i'm gonna clear it up i'm gonna give a media interview that way that'll clear everything up what's the dumbest thing i could do right now this case is like dumb dumber dumbest who's the fucking it's a competition for who's the biggest idiot yeah yeah sydney's the only sydney george and suzy are the only people who aren't complete morons in this whole case. Everybody else. Everybody else is a fucking amazing idiot. So he makes a video.
Starting point is 01:36:11 He says in this video that he's given three statements to the FBI, but that having information about a case doesn't necessarily mean you're guilty. You knew where her cell phone was. That's a pretty good sign. Yeah. On the way to dump her body that's incredible information he then said quote did i have information yes i did did that mean i killed someone no it does not yes sir it does as a matter of fact in this case i'm sorry yeah um so he said that he expects charges to be filed against his girlfriend, Bailey Boswell, as well.
Starting point is 01:36:47 And he insisted more than once during this that she was not involved in the death at all. He said, we're probably a lot more than people of interest. But Bailey Boswell was not involved. He said, if we're charged, that is something that will be discussed in court. My involvement. But Bailey was involved here. He said that all the news about him and his girlfriend has been, quote, very one-sided. It's like you guys haven't even been listening to us.
Starting point is 01:37:15 It's like we dumped a dismembered beloved girl in a field and we've been scumbags and I've been in prison since I was 17. It's like there's nothing good coming out about us. Like, what the fuck? We're just two young kids in love yeah it's silly we're just a couple of couple of crazy kids out there trying to navigate the world you know you ever seen benny and june were like that what a fucking jerk no he said for instance uh he said that boswell faces charges of using a bad check in pennsylvania and all these bad checks is negative he said, for instance, he said that Boswell faces charges of using a bad check in Pennsylvania and all these bad checks is negative. He said, we're getting so much negative publicity that something has to be done. Aubrey needs a publicist.
Starting point is 01:37:58 We need some spin here. I feel like Exxon after we dump some fucking oil in a bay this isn't good right sure there's some drowning ducks at the moment but listen yes there's a penguin that's covered in oil but look but there's going to be nice people coming to clean them off with dawn so it's fine we'll make it you're gonna buy a bottle of dawn with a little clean penguin on it he said people should have an open mind an open mind i'm not a nice person thanks okay people should have an open mind now that it's open let me tell you what a piece of shit i am now that you're ready for my information did you hear that with a wide open mind wow people should have an open mind i'm not a nice person i'm not innocent of a lot of things
Starting point is 01:38:45 i can't defend my past i can't defend my lifestyle but don't believe everything you hear i don't make excuses for what i've done i am a criminal that's nice man he said yes sydney had been at his apartment where he shared that he shares with ba in Wilbur and that before the discovery of her body he and Bailey had traveled to west to York in the general area of where the body was found that's what he said so I don't know that before anybody found her so they said do you have something to say to the Lou family and he said, I could say a lot of things. How about no would be the answer. Hope they're OK. No, I don't know. He said he's like, what's the worst thing I could say?
Starting point is 01:39:34 I got it. This I'm a criminal. He said, I could say a lot of things, but with the things going on about us, it would probably be more disrespectful for them. Probably. Good call. A couple of days later, he said, quote, We've never denied that Sidney came back to the house. And unfortunately, that is where all the questions come in. Yes, you're the last people to be seen with a fucking dead girl you met on Tinder and lied to her about your name.
Starting point is 01:40:01 Looks bad. Yeah. Wow. Her dad, by the way, was honored in early 2018 as the Nebraska Rural Community School Association's Principal of the Year. Yeah. Which is like a Hamlin-winning comeback player of the year. Right. You know what I mean? It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Jesus Christ. I mean, he's not dead, and I can't believe you're still walking around. So here, take a plaque, please. Right. I can't believe you're working still. You So here, take a plaque, please. Right. I can't believe you're working still. You poor bastard. You shouldn't have to endure. And he does.
Starting point is 01:40:31 He retires that year when the school year ended. He said, the last year taught me that all the things I tried to fix or take care of at work were petty compared to losing my child. I no longer wanted to deal with other people's problems. Children? I think it's like this person, this teacher took my parking space type shit. He's like, I don't fucking care about your parking space. My daughter was taken
Starting point is 01:40:53 apart. Fuck your parking space. How many pieces is your daughter in? One? How many pieces is your parking space in? Fuck you. Fuck off. Get out of my office. Trail says he's responsible. Oh.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Next, a few days later. Sort of. Sort of responsible. Okay. He said he spent months sharing his side of the story, since authorities named him a person of interest with the authorities. In November, he said I wasn't involved at all. In December, he denied
Starting point is 01:41:23 Bailey was involved, but said I was sort of, you know, it's a little mushy when it comes to me. Then he claimed that he's accountable and responsible for Sidney's death. He just says that. It doesn't say he actually killed her, just that he's accountable and responsible. to media outlets telling the Journal Star and the Omaha World Herald that he had given investigators all the information they need and that they should charge him with the death already. He's telling them, where are my charges? He said, I'm responsible and I'm accountable. He said he has not provided an explicit confession during the calls or detailed an explanation of what happened to Sidney after she got to the apartment.
Starting point is 01:42:06 The authorities say they found evidence of foul play at the scene and all that sort of thing. But he says, Aubrey says, if they want justice for Sidney, somebody charge us. Now he's begging to be charged for murder. Charge me or let me out? Is that what he's trying to do?
Starting point is 01:42:22 He's just saying charge me. He's going to be in there anyway. He's got tons of fraud charges, habitual criminal with a fucking firearm. He's fucked anyway. So, yeah, he said that his directions led investigators to the cell phone. He's like saying, what the fuck? I obviously killed this broad. What more do I have to do to get arrested?
Starting point is 01:42:40 He said that and proved to them that he could deliver i guess information and he insisted that having information and committing a crime are different but then moments later he made vague comments about responsibility and accountability and then he said investigators don't know what happened they don't know why it happened he said let's make wilbur famous for more than just the check fest if they're accusing me of doing something, let's see if I did it. Charge us. He called up the check fest. He fucking name checked
Starting point is 01:43:12 the check fest. I want to be more famous than the check fest. He said, let's make this more famous than the something dancers. What the fuck the Bellwit Brothers dancers or whatever the fuck they were. More famous than them. Wow. So then he talks more with investigators. He then said, he tells the FBI, that he gave Sidney $5,000 to appear in a sexual fantasy video.
Starting point is 01:43:38 But then they say there's no evidence of such footage or of her agreeing to it. So they're not sure he's telling the truth. evidence of such footage or of her agreeing to it. So they're not sure he's telling the truth. When he was arrested, though, they did find a list of 12 or 13 women inside Bailey's purse when they were arrested. Bailey had a list of women listed next to each of their name was their supposed magic specialty, including healer, see danger and fire. What the fuck is happening? OK, it's getting real weird now and it's going to get way to hear about this next thing. During his conversations with investigators, Trail often discussed the group sex in his apartment.
Starting point is 01:44:14 On one occasion, Trail told FBI agents he wanted to share something away from the video cameras. He said, can I just tell you guys something? And then he leaned in, and they went to the restroom and he whispered, quote, which is kill, which is kill a life for a life. And they gain more power when they kill. It was like a big secret that he knew. Like now that you have that information, obviously you'll solve this. OK. OK.
Starting point is 01:44:40 Let's talk about some vampire cult people. All right. What? OK. Okay, let's talk about some vampire cult people. All right? What? Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Apparently, this dipshit, Aubrey Trail, had been convincing tons of young women, not tons, but at least a dozen young women over time here, to join his cult where he, and they all believe that he is a mind-reading vampire who can fly. He can fly, Jimmy. I mean, both of those i mean even in fucking twilight the guy didn't fly very fucking easy to prove uh yeah fly yeah all right asshole then no what am i thinking and say it while you're levitating you fly around and tell me what i'm doing right now so and also that he's got a coven and of a dozen witches and he claimed that he that they would gain powers by killing people a 22 year old woman who claimed to be a follower of his cult will later testify and tells investigators early on here that she joined aubrey and bailey boswell's depraved world the summer before Sidney was killed. She says that Aubrey convinced her she'd need to kill someone and to take their last breath like Stephen King's Dr. Sleep thing. Yes, you have to take. That's how you gain their power in order to obtain her magical powers.
Starting point is 01:46:01 You're a witch. But if you want magical powers, you have to kill someone, suck out their last breath, then you're magic. She said that Aubrey showed her photos of women he claimed had had witch powers, and that Bailey was called the Queen Witch, and that all
Starting point is 01:46:18 the witches had to refer to Aubrey Trail as Daddy. Yeah, because he's 51. Yeah. There was rules in the the house like you weren't allowed to wear clothes and bailey's the bottom witch she's the bottom witch yeah absolutely awesome she's not no one's allowed to wear clothes yeah either in the house um and they said that this woman said she met aubrey the same way sy Sidney did by communicating with Bailey on Tinder. So Bailey Boswell gets on Tinder, gets these girls
Starting point is 01:46:49 in here. The woman said she was drawn to Boswell who suggested that her sugar daddy could take care of this woman as well. Yeah. And she was one of three women to talk about lots of details saying Aubrey and Boswell together had a kill bag with a hammer
Starting point is 01:47:06 and pliers and fantasized about torturing people by ripping off their fingernails and cutting out their eyelids dear Christ wow this is fucking wild sick they said that Sydney wasn't one of the young women said Sydney was not the first young woman that Aubrey and Bailey had targeted. They said that she and Aubrey had their sights set on two different people, but their plans for murder weren't carried out. Aubrey told the woman that she'd gain more powers if she tortured her murder victim for a few hours first. And he also claimed that some of his witches could leave their bodies as well so you'll get that power as well if you're interested in that you want to just like you know your body gets to be a hindrance after a while you want to take off leave it behind um then the women the
Starting point is 01:47:55 women all the women said they believed him back then they just how they described him as convincing and hypnotic. He's a 300-pound scumbag with an arm-length criminal record. What is so fucking hypnotic about these people? A 50-plus, overweight, fucking nothing. Guys out there, can't find a lady? You're not fucking trying hard enough. Let me tell you something. Because this fat fuck is pulling girls in their early 20s left and right. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:48:28 Oh, wow. She said, quote, it all made sense. How the fuck did that make sense to you? Holy fuck. That made sense? That is fucking amazing. She also said she helped Aubrey and Bailey swindle people through their antique businesses as well. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Yes. At one point, they said that one of them brought a woman to his basement, to Aubrey's basement in Wilbur, and offered to cover her rent and car payments and pay for nursing school for her. Really? Trail gave her a $200 weekly allowance as well. Really? Trail gave her a $200 weekly allowance as well. She said she would have sex with him and Boswell, and another woman as well would join in. Wow.
Starting point is 01:49:14 So it would be him and like three, four women, young women. And he never proves that he can fly? And he never, never has to fly. He's like, I'm a little heavy to fly right now. I got a knee problem. When my knee heals up, I fly better. You you gotta launch just right or else it doesn't work uh they said the orgies would sometimes involve choking too which is a big deal that comes up later and we talked a lot about that last week so trail told the women he'd killed multiple people and now encouraged them to do the same one woman who joined them uh at a walmart in beatrice in august 2017 to meet a
Starting point is 01:49:49 potential victim said that aubrey asked me if i wanted her to be my first the girl they met there and and she said she met her first kill so wow uh the rules included not wearing any clothes in the apartment and mandatory checks with Aubrey every three hours. You had to check in with him, make sure you were still around and frequent discussions about killing and torture.
Starting point is 01:50:18 One girl said that about three weeks after matching with Boswell on Tinder, she learned that her true identity wasn't what she said she was and that her sugar daddy relationship with Trail extended to another girl as well and all this shit. They said at the first meeting, Trail began to show her pictures of anywhere
Starting point is 01:50:38 between 10 to 12 women on his phone, saying these are all chicks that I hang out with, members of my group here. Eventually, this woman agreed to a sugar daddy relationship with Trail, in which he would give her $2,000 a week to go on shopping sprees with Bailey. Dude, you gotta steal a lot of antiques. Wow. She said, quote, I enjoyed being taken care of.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Eight grand a month? You have to fuck a fat 50-year-old. Is that worth it? How is that not worse than work i'm sorry i'd rather go to work than fuck this guy imagine how fucking sweaty he is sweaty yeah i don't wanna yeah no barbecue fucking meat just oozing from his pores from he's a piece of shit like he's a terrible person unbelievable man yeah unbelievable no way he smells nice right he's i mean he's a fat fucking scumbag criminal i'm a criminal his words not mine yeah i am a criminal yeah not a nice person piece of shit you know me huge piece
Starting point is 01:51:40 of shit so they all the women said that boswell was understood to be the queen of the coven, the bottom witch there, and had a dozen witches under her. She told the one girl, Bailey did, told the one girl that she was the healer in the coven and that this girl could only get her power by torturing and breathing in someone's final breath. Breathing in someone's final breath. She said that she and Boswell talked multiple times about wanting to torture people, even describing her preferred methods in graphic detail. Wow. This is fucking weird. She said she spoke about a ritual during full moons. Trail did.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Spoke about a ritual during full moons in which witches would go into an open field to leave their bodies, an act that would apparently take care of the bad in their worlds. That would cleanse them. They'd do that. This woman also said that Trail said he was a flying, mind-reading vampire who said she could leave the group whenever she wanted until she killed someone to gain her powers. After that, he would erase her memory so she could leave but she wouldn't know where she's going obviously because you know memories erased and all they kill people and then they then they go i erased them real quick yeah i showed you that i can fly before
Starting point is 01:52:56 but you forgot you forgot all about that shit so this woman said she drove once drove to the walmart with a couple to meet another woman that she was supposed to kill. So that's multiple people. Trail told her the murder would take place in the woods where a tarp would be laid out to, quote, do everything over. And afterwards, they would go back home to shower one another while Aubrey would dispose of the body and burn their clothes, which is interesting. Part of the plan included having Boswell's kill kit, which included the hammer and the pliers there, and they told her she'd receive her own
Starting point is 01:53:31 every time when she killed somebody as well. This woman said, at the time, I was ready for it, meaning the plan to kill someone. And, yeah, her plan to kill a woman in their group who Bailey found annoying and said she needed to be dealt with. Wow. The plan was to kill the woman on the way to Pennsylvania and dump her body along the way to antique stores.
Starting point is 01:53:54 But when she was at the local TJ Maxx to try on clothes for the killing, this girl said she had a panic. She was going to buy a new outfit to kill him. A murder fit. A murder outfit. Yeah. Let me go get my fucking murder gear on here. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:54:11 She said she had a panic attack and told Boswell she didn't want to do it anymore and then left the group. This was a couple months before Sidney went missing. Yeah. This is a fucking mess. March of 2018, there's a bunch of letters sent between Boswell and Trail from jail they don't know do they
Starting point is 01:54:30 well they would leave them in the jail library and think that no one was noticing for each other like I'll leave it in this book and all that so one starts out with Trail declaring his love for Bailey he said I love you to infinity and back on a one wheeled, I love you to infinity and back on a one-wheeled bicycle. I love you.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Which I missed. I'm mixing Buzz Lightyear with, like, old-timey backwoods fucking sentiments. A one-wheeled bicycle? That's called a unicycle. On a one-wheeled bicycle. Nope. Not in Tennessee, it ain't. It's called a one-wheeled bicycle. One-wheeled
Starting point is 01:55:06 bicycle. I love you to infinity and back. Well, he is an idiot. And he is. What is he, Jimmy? He's a criminal. He's a criminal. I am a criminal. He's a bad guy. I'm not a nice person. We get that.
Starting point is 01:55:24 Then he launches into the story that she should tell investigators. In the letter, the prosecution said Trail refers to, later on the prosecution will bring this up and say, he refers to Sidney's case as if it were a drug case. So they're like trying to act, this is their code words. Like no one knows what they are. Like mob guys will be like, you know, I dropped off three boxes of ziti like this is not he said on the upcoming drug case here uh is what i want is what i have told them i told them you were not even in the room when the delivery was made that you were in the living room stoned and started smoking when
Starting point is 01:56:01 i told you about the dope and that you freaked out when I told you about all the drugs. I told them you didn't help cut up or bag the drugs. Cut up or bag the drugs. Idiot. So the letter goes on to explain that Aubrey had told investigators that Bailey didn't know the other two women in the room with him when Loof was killed. Other two women in the room. Yes. Where are they?
Starting point is 01:56:24 Those are the ones I believe that we were talking to that are probably a couple of them, one of them anyway. In the letter, he said that the two women whose names Boswell didn't know were freaking out because Boswell was and they were worried that she was going to tell police what happened. So they forced her to clean up and drive the body out to Clay County. Then he tells her to do whatever it takes to maintain her innocence. He said, if worse comes to worse, I need you to testify against me. OK. Yes. He said, don't spend your life in prison because of me.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Don't take blame for something you only have forced involvement in. He's trying to save her now. Yeah. involvement he's trying to save her now yeah um so in the next letter uh they found a code found in the jail's rec center and the fbi agent said it's a simple code you write with the top line of letters and you decode with the bottom line they said letters written in the code were found after that one also in the rec center so they went from the library to the rec center that one also in the rec center so they went from the library to the rec center so in another letter trail told boswell um the circumstances around the alleged sexual fantasy sydney was involved in she's like this is he's like this is what you do he wrote you asked if you could be in it and i
Starting point is 01:57:39 said no it was after 2 a.m when the other two girls got there. I let them in through the kitchen door. I introduced them as Jen and Kim. You can make up your own description of what they look like because they don't exist. Because they aren't real people. Just make them up. He said that Bailey should tell the investigators that Aubrey talked to Sidney for a few minutes and told her all would be okay. He told her to say they went into the bedroom for about an hour, and then Aubrey came out and told Boswell what happened, and she freaked out.
Starting point is 01:58:12 So you go in, you say I went in, and then I came out, and you freaked out. Then he said, we have to make you look like a victim. Make people hate me and feel sorry for you. I'm going to prison anyway. Yeah, I'm fucked. Yeah, I have to prison anyway. Yeah, I'm fucked. Yeah, I have all this other habitual criminal. I'm fucked. So just whatever.
Starting point is 01:58:30 Another coded letter from Trail to Boswell talked about a story for Boswell to tell investigators. He said about making a snuff film. Say we were making a snuff film. That's what I wanted to do. He said the three girls in the FBI are saying you wanted to make a torture murder video and that's why you were recruiting girls on Tinder. Tell them I told you months before that I made a snuff film once and sold it for lots of money. Tell them once you and I were talking about ways to make a lot of money and I said we could make a fake snuff film. Then he continues to write that Boswell should tell investigators
Starting point is 01:59:05 that he told her to find the girls and that Trell would pay them and they wouldn't get seriously hurt, but there would be pain involved. Trell also told her that the women she recruited had to think it was real and that Boswell needed to get them texting about killing and torture. Wow. Then he goes, uh, quote, you agreed to do it all.
Starting point is 01:59:27 And that's why you were on Tinder. And that's why all the girls were doing that. Now, you know, it was all lies and I planned to kill. You'll have to fill in the rest of the blanks, baby. Like I can't plan it all out for you.
Starting point is 01:59:38 I wrote you the screenplay. You can write the details. I mean, fucking a, I, well, I gave you an outline here. Now you got to
Starting point is 01:59:45 fill it in with dialogue and actual actions but this is your yeah i don't know how to make it look i'm not scorsese i can't make it the movie you gotta i'm not i'm a story by guy i'm not a written by guy so story by me written by you here so you figure it out i'm an influenced by guy oh my god based loosely on that. Yeah. You know, that sort of thing has told to that kind of guy. The court reads one letter for later on from Bailey to Aubrey Trail, where she wrote him a letter saying, quote, Hey, Daddy, I love you so much more. I'm sorry I didn't catch on to your letter
Starting point is 02:00:26 sooner when you say video do you mean snuff video or porn video everything else is understood i love you so much what the fuck is happening she's in jail separated from this guy the spell should be fucking broken he at this point he put you here why are you still communicating he's just as fucked up as him yeah just as fucked up he mess he found just as bad of a person as he is yeah it's crazy happens to be 30 years yeah a different generation doesn't matter they're still fucking natural born killers it would just be brando instead of woody harrelson in the movie you know what i mean brando and fucking juliet Juliette Lewis running around killing people. So court here for the fraud stuff.
Starting point is 02:01:12 He tells this paper, by the way, the fraud case he's facing is just a business deal gone bad. That's just nothing. Dude, it's 30 grand you didn't pay. Yeah. He starts talking in court and the judge cuts him off and said, I'm afraid that the kind of questions that you might ask might incriminate you. And he said, the judge said, I do not want the court to indulge him in questions. Just stop. Everyone stop asking him questions because he's going to fucking incriminate himself here.
Starting point is 02:01:40 By the way, they're now accused of a scheme where they bilked a particular Kansas couple out of $400,000. Oh, my God. So they charge Boswell and Aubrey here with first-degree murder, unlawful disposal of human remains as well. And prosecutors are seeking the death penalty against both of them. the death penalty against both of them. So when that comes out, he has only one thing that he should do that's smart, and that's make more public statements before his trial. Please do. Please do.
Starting point is 02:02:13 His lawyer's got to be going, fuck my life. Stop talking. How are you doing this? He's crossing off the next defense office list. Well, that was next. Never mind that. He told several news outlets that her death was accidental now.
Starting point is 02:02:27 He told the Omaha World-Herald that Sidney had been a willing participant in a sex game that went wrong and that she had something around her neck when she died. And he said he believes that he should receive the death penalty, though, even though it was an accident,
Starting point is 02:02:42 according to him. He said that he admitted to dismembering Siddney's body he denied using the hacksaw bought that day to do it even though he bought a bunch of dismemberment of fucking things at her store that's even more gross the prosecutors are pointing to that as premeditation because he bought that before and he said well that's not the one i used the one i bought that day no because that would be premeditation i just did it in a whim he said that it wasn that's not the one I used, the one I bought that day. No, because that would be premeditation. I just did it on a whim. He said that it wasn't supposed to go to the extreme. It went, of course, he said.
Starting point is 02:03:14 But it wasn't meant that she was to die. A weird way to put that. Prosecutors believe, though, they planned the murder, obviously. They captured a video at a Home Depot in Lincoln buying tools that day before she went to work. Um, and also trail told investigators that he strangled Sidney Loof with an extension cord during the sex game, quote unquote sex game. Uh, they believe that, um, you know, Boswell was there and helped dismember her and lie about it for months. His trial comes around. Oh boy. Is it, this is a fucking spectacle spectacle you think this is over you are imagine far from you are mistaken so before the trial he will plead guilty to unlawful disposal of human remains admitting that he had dismembered her but he says that he didn't murder her she died accidentally during a sexual fantasy act. Okay. That's the story. That's the story. And he's sticking to it.
Starting point is 02:04:08 Okay. He's using a wheelchair in court, by the way. Yeah. He's had a heart attack since prison, a mild heart attack. Oh, really?
Starting point is 02:04:16 Now he's going to use the wheelchair to try to get some sympathy here. All right. You know, not such a bad guy. Look, how dangerous could he be? Look at him. In the opening arguments here, opening statement, prosecutors argue that Aubrey and Boswell, who's – by the way, they're separate trials, these two, messaged her on Tinder with the intent of killing, torture, and sex.
Starting point is 02:04:37 That's what they said. While the date was going on, Trill strangled her with an extension cord, then used a fine tooth saw to dismember her body. And they said he confessed to the murder, told authorities Boswell helped clean up the crime scene. What the fuck? Yeah. He said that he hit her body out of fear.
Starting point is 02:04:57 Fear? Fear, because it went awry, this sex game. So, oh God, now what do we do? Don't call the cops or 911, just fucking cut her body into 14 pieces and dispose of her, which is what any reasonable person would do. In fear. In fear. Fear. 14.
Starting point is 02:05:13 Yeah. The prosecutor said this is more than a first degree murder. This was a planned abduction to kill Sidney Loof. The defense. This is a father son team. The Murray's here. He's gotson team, the Murrays here. He's got a father-son court-appointed attorneys here.
Starting point is 02:05:30 They said that Sidney was a willing participant in a sexual encounter with Trail and two other women and was accidentally choked to death. The lawyer says Aubrey Trail is not a particularly nice man. He says his confession proves that he told the truth and that Sidney's death was completely accidental.
Starting point is 02:05:49 Also argued that this trio of Boswell, Trail, and Sidney previously knew each other also. Oh. Saying that Sidney agreed to take part in Trail's sexual fantasy for money. And the lawyer says there was nothing illegal it was all consensual there's no proof that she's ever met them before that that's just a new story they made up wow so they show the surveillance video of him buying dismemberment fucking weapon dismemberment implements not hours before the date that's's not great. Picking stuff out. He's probably like, hold your arm out like this, then like motioning, miming, sawing,
Starting point is 02:06:31 going, yeah, I think this is a good saw. But the elbow, yeah, this will work. This will work. The medical examiner also gets up here and they ask her about the signs she saw during the autopsy that could suggest that this was not an accidental sex death, but that Sydney struggled. And they bring up the bump on the back of the tops of her wrists from restraints and the scrapes on her back. Right. And saying
Starting point is 02:06:54 one of her earlobes had been torn as well. Yeah, that's not good. So the cross-examination, though, defense attorney Joe Murray says the signs of a struggle that you talked about are consistent with rough consensual sex aren't they what and the medical examiner said they can be i mean anything could fall under that umbrella short of death maybe somebody wants their earlobe ripped
Starting point is 02:07:16 open during sex i don't fucking know i've heard people like some weird shit i imagine people like blood play and like you know blood some people like they like that some people like blood play and bloodletting. Some people like that. Some people like pain. They like hot shit dripped on them. I mean, whatever. Who knows? Whatever people are doing. That's a funny fucking way to say it. It is.
Starting point is 02:07:35 Hot shit dripped on them. The doctor also couldn't say if missing organs were evidence that the death had been a ritualistic killing, you know, like a flying vampire cult, or if animals had gotten them in the weeks before they were found. But it seems like there'd be more missing if animals had gotten into that. They said it's possible that someone could break the hyoid bone, the U-shaped bone in the back of the neck, during sexual asphyxiation. Not common, though. That would fucking really be getting after it. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:08:06 Yeah. They said part of Sidney's high-eyed bone and neck were missing, and that the doctor said she was still able to conclude that the death was a homicide. So that includes strangulation. They bring in the Mississippi hacksaw expert there, saying the very fine teeth. He said it was a hacksaw with a blade of about 25 teeth per inch or a little bit less. Wow. So they showed him the hacksaw that he had bought, and they say, is this in this ballpark?
Starting point is 02:08:35 And it was a yellow-handled Stanley brand high-tension hacksaw with 24 teeth per inch carbide blade. Exactly like the guy said. And that's the one that he bought that day and he said it's consistent so third day of trial is the craziest day in trial history here yeah at one point this fucking lunatic aubrey trail stands up in court out of his wheelchair out of his wheelchair. Out of his wheelchair, rises out and screams, Bailey is innocent and I curse you all. Before taking some sharp object and repeatedly slashing his own neck. Oh my. In the middle of court.
Starting point is 02:09:18 Blood squirting everywhere. Really? It opens it. He's fucking slashing himself. They said he cut his own throat several times during his murder trial. After cutting himself, he then fell down and out of the wheelchair and onto the floor. He was pale and unresponsive as they rushed him for first aid. They brought a stretcher in and he was put into an ambulance to be taken to the hospital.
Starting point is 02:09:41 Oh my God. Wow, that is insane that's insane guilty right i mean his lawyers at that point had the balls to go mistrial right it's got to be a mistrial i mean no well anybody could do that then anybody could just hurt themselves in the middle of trial you can't you can't cause your own mistrial that's the point it's got to be these other circumstances they said that um you know come on it's attempted suicide he had a razor blade he smuggled into court that's wow fucking razor blade the his attorney joe murray said the case was over right then i mean he did it to himself yeah they requested a new trial based in large part on the prejudicial nature of the suicide attempt on jurors.
Starting point is 02:10:28 Shouldn't have done it then, stupid. Yeah. Who did it? You did it. It's not like the prosecutor slid his own neck and then said, oh, yeah. That's like standing up in court and saying, I did it. Throw me away. Throw me in the fucking, throw away the key.
Starting point is 02:10:41 It's the same thing. That was bad for him. So can we just have a mistrial? Can we try again? And they bring in a vampire cult chick here. Yeah. One of the other ones. They kept their names.
Starting point is 02:10:53 How long do they recess for for this? Do they a month until he's okay? No, no, no, no, no. They just went on with the trial of him not there while he was recovering. The next few days, he's not there. And they were like, well, our client has the right to be there they're like well he shouldn't have slit his own throat then that was pretty dumb of him wasn't it maybe you should try to show up we got a schedule here that we keep to in this county right where is it come in yeah i got a divorce proceeding
Starting point is 02:11:20 coming up next week that we got got to clear the court for. So Aubrey's defense lawyer, Joe Murray, asked the vampire cult woman here, quote, so you wanted all this stuff, the torture, the killing, the breathing in the steam? And she said, yes, that's what I was going for. The lawyer turned out that such a doctor, such a maneuver is part of Stephen King's novel Doctor Sleep, in which characters discuss killing someone and feeding on steam of their dying breath. Yeah. And a witness said to get your power, you have to breathe in their last breath. So that's what it is. Is that what you were going for? And she said, yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:16 When the Walmart victim that they were going to kill, I told you about earlier, didn't pan out, they said that Trail declared that they'd, quote, save her for another time and instead focus on another witch in his coven who was too nice and didn't have the evil in her. So we'll just kill her. Yeah. And she's annoying. So the woman testified she didn't want to kill another girl in the group. She wanted to kill some stranger. Jesus. So she said they and she informed the Boswell and Trail that she was leaving their cult and they threatened to kill her family if she told anyone about them.
Starting point is 02:12:34 Okay. Wow. She said one witness said that Trail would discuss torturing and killing people once or twice a week. Quote, it was just like a regular conversation for him. What in the fuck? twice a week, quote, it was just like a regular conversation for him. One woman testified that when she met Boswell on Tinder on the summer of 2017, Boswell used the alias Jenna. So she's got different names.
Starting point is 02:12:59 She claims that she helped Boswell and trail steel and pedal antiques that they instituted house rules that included her. She had to walk around naked in her residence and call him daddy and talk about killing people all the time. Wow. She said she didn't believe the claims about witches and magical powers, but did believe they'd make good on their plans to kill. She said they had talked of making a snuff film and selling it for a million dollars.
Starting point is 02:13:23 She told the jurors, I did think they would lay hands on someone 100%. A million dollars ain't nothing. It's, yeah, for a million. A third member of the crew here said she met Trey Allen Boswell in early November 2017, so right before Sidney engaged in sexual activity with them at their Wilbur apartment. And she was claimed to call Boswell mommy. How old is she? They're both 23 at the time.
Starting point is 02:13:54 So mommy. And then the trail had to be daddy. Yeah. And she spent several days with them after Sydney's death. They said Boswell picked her up on November 17th, which is two days after Sidney disappeared, and they traveled to different hotels in Nebraska. She testified that police called and left messages,
Starting point is 02:14:15 but she didn't know her cult leaders were suspects in a kidnapping. There's the third body that we saw on video. That's the one. That's the third. Wow. She said she woke up on November 18th with scratches on her legs and that she'd lost memories for large parts of the day. Uh-oh. That's not good.
Starting point is 02:14:33 According to public radio station there, she told the jurors that when she learned of the murder, she worried that she helped them dispose of the body and had repressed the memory. Okay. She didn't know. She had scratches on her legs like you were burying her in a field with bushes and stuff. That's what she's saying. So she probably did is what I'm thinking here. She says she no longer believes that's the case because prosecutors told her the evidence suggests that the body was dumped days before.
Starting point is 02:15:03 Throughout her sexual relationship with the couple, this woman also became involved with the witchcraft. She admitted she never believed in the witchcraft and assumed the practice, including hypnosis powers that Aubrey claimed to have, was just role play. Yeah. She thought it was just fantasy shit. She said, I thought it was more of a foreplay thing.
Starting point is 02:15:21 She said she couldn't recall the power that they alleged to have and believed only five people were involved in the coven, as she put it. She said Boswell would go to sleep on the couch, then roleplay as another person. She'd go to sleep on the couch and wake up and be like,
Starting point is 02:15:37 now I'm a different person. Wow. This woman said slowly she was introduced to the idea of murdering someone, which they said could be used to make additional money. They said that they posed the idea of making a video in which they tortured and killed someone for a lot of money, insisting they would only target pedophiles and other criminals as victims. We'll just Dexter it. It's cool. Don't sweat it. She said this witness said she started to get worried about their intentions and once warned another woman who had met the couple about their creepy schemes. She said she finally left in October 2017 after finding a job at the Lincoln Mall.
Starting point is 02:16:15 She's like, the mall will save me from all this. Yeah. How about that? Phone case saved her life. Fucking yeah. The kiosk, the fucking threading kiosk saved her life very nice cheap knockoff chinese toy yeah so um this is fucking weird man so they get all these witnesses saying that they wanted to do that one other witness explained that she had met boswell on tinder on
Starting point is 02:16:43 halloween 2017 during their conversations boswell suggested the pair engage in a dominant submissive explained that she had met Boswell on Tinder on Halloween 2017. During their conversations, Boswell suggested the pair engage in a dominant-submissive relationship, and this woman says she was curious about it. Then she met Boswell, and they went to an Ameristar hotel room where she met Aubrey, who was referred to as Master. Oh, he's Master and Daddy. No, he's Master Daddy now. Daddy Master. She said that the couple talked to her about witchcraft and murder, and at one point she said she was ordered to murder, quote,
Starting point is 02:17:12 that stalker girl who was the last witness who just testified. Okay. And this woman said it wasn't just sex anymore, it was getting real. So, fuck that. Now, the star here, Aubrey's back. Aubrey Trail is back. Yes, sir. And he's ready.
Starting point is 02:17:28 He is ready for the spotlight. I'm ready for my close-up, baby. Let's get it on. He's going to testify. Wow. May as well. He testifies that he first met Sidney months before she went missing. That's part of their defense.
Starting point is 02:17:44 He said that he was in a checkout line at Menards where she worked, and he saw her crying. He asked her what was wrong and handed her a $100 bill. Oh. I'm your fucking fairy crying godfather here. Here's a $100 bill. Every time you cry, I give you $100. It's weird. He claimed from there he paid Sidney to make phone calls for his antique business and that she and Bailey Boswell were in a romantic relationship.
Starting point is 02:18:09 At one point, Aubrey said that Sidney wanted to stop working with them because she didn't want to be involved in illegal activity. And so according to Trail, a while later, Boswell and Sidney reconnected on Tinder. But since Boswell's photos look nothing like her, Sidney didn't know she was going on a date with Boswell until she picked her up. But then why would she go out with her the second time? That doesn't make any sense. Trail said the two started talking about Sidney getting involved in trails business again. And the talk continued the next day at the apartment where Boswell and Trail lived in Wilbur. The talk continued the next day at the apartment where Boswell and Trail lived in Wilbur. He said, quote, caught up at first, said she wasn't doing very well financially, got a tin with money in it, told Sid, if you want to get back and work with us, I can take care of your problems.
Starting point is 02:18:58 He said she was very timid. She was in desperate straits. I played on that. Yeah. She wasn't in desperate straits because her parents would come in, take her to the doctor, fill her fucking apartment with groceries and if she needed a couple of bucks, guarantee your dad would have reached right in his fucking pocket for her. People that are
Starting point is 02:19:14 bad with money or in a lot of trouble with money don't show other people how to be good at money and let people stay in their apartment. They don't have an apartment to let people stay in it. Because they fucked up with money. Right. God, he's such a dick.
Starting point is 02:19:28 He said that he, Boswell, and Sidney agreed to engage in sexual activity and that they agreed to experiment with choking. He told the court here now that he made up parts of the story he told FBI agents about the night Sidney died. Now that he made up parts of the story he told FBI agents about the night Sidney died. He said it took place during a sexual encounter with Loof and Boswell and that he had an extension cord around Sidney's neck and that she started shaking before she stopped breathing. He said he tried to give her mouth to mouth but was unsuccessful. And yeah, that's that. Dude, that's fucked up. A parent has to hear that.
Starting point is 02:20:05 That's what I mean. Their whole family has to hear that. Has to hear him lie like. A parent has to hear that. That's what I mean. Their whole family has to hear that. Has to hear him lie like that. What a piece of shit. That's what happened. So Tara Gehrig, Sidney's friend here, she was asked about Sidney's mental state. So her friend said that she was struggling with anxiety and depression, had gone home the previous weekend, and was talking to her parents about getting her mental health back on track.
Starting point is 02:20:27 The defense here asked the friend whether she was worried about Sidney harming herself. And her friend said, because of events that happened that weekend, I was fearful to go inside of her house because I was worried something like that had happened. So the defense also asked her about Sidney's drug use and if it concerned her and tara said she wasn't concerned about her marijuana use but that she was worried about her use of cocaine oh she said at one point in time she was snorting coke only a handful of times and when i realized she was doing it and sat her down i told her i would tell george and suzy if she kept doing it and then she down, I told her I would tell George and Susie if she kept doing it.
Starting point is 02:21:06 And then she stopped. I'll tell your fucking parents on you. Tell your principal, dad. Yep. She said that Sydney had done cocaine during a trip to Colorado to stay awake. But that wasn't a regular thing for Sydney. Not nearly as often as her marijuana use. They also asked about her online dating habits.
Starting point is 02:21:23 And this woman said that Sydney was on Tinder and a few other dating sites, like every other 23-year-old that existed, 24-year-old. So they asked what she knew about Sydney's sexual activity and dating. Good Christ. Tara said she was very timid sexually and very shy. For her to be sexually active with someone, she needed intimacy and needed closeness, not the type of person who would have sex with someone she just met. Especially not a 300-pound, fat, sweaty, criminal asshole, scumbag, flying vampire liar. Bad guy. None of those things.
Starting point is 02:21:54 Yeah. She also said that Sidney had a breathing problem because of her back and she would not have wanted to be choked, which you don't know that. There's no way to know that, though. But scoliosis, if it's severe, you don't want to be. I mean, who would know that she was choking? You don't know sexually if that's what I mean. You don't know that. Maybe she didn't want to choke in general, but during sex, all bets are off.
Starting point is 02:22:17 But that doesn't matter. If she wanted to be choked, you still can't strangle her with an extension cord and cut her body up. None of that matters. She also said Sidney would never be interested in engaging in sexual activity with a woman who had a boyfriend or who wanted to introduce the man into the relationship. Yes, she did say, I hope she doesn't have a boyfriend. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:36 Now, the cross-examination here, the defense also rebuts the line of questioning by bringing in photos from Sidney's iCloud back into the courtroom? Previous testimony revealed that there were several photos of memes about choking or rough sex in her iCloud. OK, but a lot. How many of our listeners have said have not only we said how many of our listeners in the groups do jokes like that means like that all the time. And these are very normal looking people. They're fine. They're normal people.
Starting point is 02:23:08 I mean, fuck as well as photos of Sydney in various stages of undress as every other 24 year old has. I'm sure she sent him to somebody at some point. That's what happened. That is so fucked that her murder is now introducing her parents to her and fucking in underwear. That's fucked up, man.
Starting point is 02:23:26 The fucking defense put these photos up and said, do these depict someone who you would believe to be sexually timid? These are personal photos, dude. It doesn't matter. Yeah. And she said no, but also said, I don't see how this picture represents her sex life. It's a picture of her.
Starting point is 02:23:43 Who cares? So then the prosecution asked Tara if she had photos on her phone that are sent to her through Facebook. And she said she probably had thousands but didn't indicate what her personality was. She's like, you know, whether she's naked or standing there, you can't tell what she wants sexually. Yeah. So they also bring in hotel employees who say they saw Sidney at a hotel in Fall City months before her death with these people. But it's just a hotel employee, two hotel employees. Show me the video. Show me something.
Starting point is 02:24:16 And show me the electronic trail. I don't see any of that. So about the jail letters, the defense asks the FBI if these letters showed Aubrey was consistent in his goal to protect Boswell. And they said yes. They also asked him whether Boswell ever said these letters were the truth. And this person said Trail only said what Boswell was supposed to tell the police. So the letters don't mean anything then. Okay.
Starting point is 02:24:43 Now, three weeks of testimony. Here come the closings. Okay. Closing argument. The state paints picture of these two people as counterculture lunatics intent on killing someone, stalking people like prey as they drove to work, shopping for her dismemberment tools hours before they kill her. Yes. Not good. Dismemberment tools hours before they kill her.
Starting point is 02:25:04 Yes, not good. They said at 6.59 p.m. November 15, 2017, when Cindy Loof got into Boswell's car, her fate was sealed. She got in that car and she was dead. It was just a matter of when. Jesus. The defense said, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is crazy. The defense said that, you know, they have, Trail had meticulously planned his half-million-dollar con of that Kansas couple,
Starting point is 02:25:30 so he's not one to act on impulse. He's a planned scumbag. The defense said this was not meticulously planned. There was no rhyme or reason to it. No plan equals no premeditation and no first-degree murder. He said, give me a fucking break here. He said he didn't. This is the best thing. The guy said, quote, I don't particularly like this guy. His lawyer said, I don't like him. I wish I had a different client, but I got this
Starting point is 02:25:57 guy. Defense lawyer's job is to go. He's not a bad guy. And like, give the guy some gum to give to you. So he looks like a human being. He said, don't like him. Piece of shit. He said he blindsided me a day earlier when he changed his story while testifying. He goes, I didn't know he was going to say that. He said, but he still says the strangulation was an accident. He said the forensic pathologist can't tell if the death was accidental or intentional. I suggest neither can you.
Starting point is 02:26:23 The pathologist said absolutely it was intentional. It's a homicide based on all the factors that she would say. Right. The death certificate says homicide, man. This lawyer, he pointed to how Aubrey Trail randomly headed west and circled
Starting point is 02:26:39 rural Clay County looking for a place to dump the body and lacked any kind of plan to get away. Just because you didn't plan where you were going to dump it body and lacked any kind of plan to get away. Just because you didn't plan where you were going to dump it doesn't mean you didn't plan the killing. Right. Just because you're an idiot. Just because you stopped at murder.
Starting point is 02:26:54 Yeah. They said that they lacked any kind of plan to get away, leaving most of their belongings behind in Wilbur, intending to return. They bought maps of Iowa and the Texas-Mexico border, but scrapped going to Mexico because they didn't have passports. They considered camping out in a national park, but didn't know where to find one.
Starting point is 02:27:14 Yeah, that's some plan, he says. They didn't plan. Just sounds like dummies. Just sounds like every other murderer. Yeah. How many people plan the perfect murder in a scale? These people aren't H.H. Holmes, for Christ's sake. They didn't build a fucking murder castle. They killed some chick while trying to fucking rape her.
Starting point is 02:27:30 This is gross. I'd love to tell that guy about the couple that murdered their brother and put him in a concrete barrel and then didn't realize they couldn't lift concrete. I think that was Nebraska, too, as a matter of fact. Yeah, I think you're right. Nebraska or Kansas, one of the two. It was in the middle there. And I was right around Thanksgiving, too if i remember correctly so the might have been ohio that one in ohio eat but you're right it was i think it was eaten ohio christ that was
Starting point is 02:27:54 like seven years ago so the prosecution then rebuts and says they thought they had committed the perfect crime what they did not count on were the dominoes that fell so soon after. Within days of the investigation, they came up. The prosecutor said, who's credible? Aubrey Trail? He changed his story about the death of Sidney Loof before your eyes. Literally, you've watched it change three times over the course of a fucking trial, which is crazy.
Starting point is 02:28:20 He said, but what happens? Sidney Loof solves her own crime. He was talking about a text that she sent a friend with a photo of the woman she met on Tinder and was on a date that night. They said that they isolated her at the night of her death, taking away from her home and her friends. This is clearly not some sexual fantasy gone wrong. This is a premeditated murder gone right. The two of them had been planning, scheming, and lusting after, desiring a murder for months. That's what we have here.
Starting point is 02:28:49 Then they dismembered her and cut her into at least 14 pieces. And they said, do you do that much work to get rid of a body? And he also said it was gratuitous to cut her into that many pieces. They said then they dispose of her body on the side of the road like it's garbage and then went to a casino the next day where they gambled and played strip poker in a motel room with another woman and talked about killing more people.
Starting point is 02:29:16 Yup, and the defense said, it's just talk, it's just stuff, that Dr. Sleep book, it's just like that. He said, quote, this is the defense layer, we've got a bizarre cast of characters in this case you don't need to tell me that no shit yeah verdict comes in six men and six women deliberate for less than three hours before coming in with their verdict three minutes three minutes on verdict of guilty as fuck on first degree murder charges and was also found guilty of criminal conspiracy
Starting point is 02:29:46 to commit murder as well. Prosecution says we offer our sympathy again to the Lou family, hoping our justice system provides some form of solace to them for their loss of their daughter, Sydney. Now, the punishment trial phase here, the death penalty thing here uh the sentencing phase they said that the um if the same set of jurors find evidence of aggravating factors then a three panel judge decides whether it'll be life in prison or death penalty so during sentencing aubrey makes a dumb statement of course because he's a fucking idiot. This is the best. Now he gives, this is like two days later, a completely new version of what happened. Oh, he's giving. Now I'm telling the truth.
Starting point is 02:30:34 Yep. He said that he refuted his previous claims that she died accidentally during a consensual rough sex session. He said, until now, I have never told the truth about how or why Sidney died. Almost everything I said was a lie unless it benefited me. Sidney Loof did not die of erotic asphyxiation. I murdered her. Yeah, we know. We got that already.
Starting point is 02:30:58 That's why you were convicted. Right. First degree murder. He said he never planned to kill her. He wanted to recruit her to join his group. He said that he decided to kill her because he viewed her as a threat to his deviant lifestyle. He said, once I sat Sidney down and started explaining how we made money, some of our criminal activities, and about the group sex and other things, I knew I had made a bad mistake. Sidney somewhat freaked out.
Starting point is 02:31:23 The truth is I killed Sidney because of a reaction to what I told her and showed her. Yeah. She's going to go fucking tell on him. He said that he had used his girlfriend to lure several women to the Wilbur apartment for his desires. And that when he explained, um,
Starting point is 02:31:37 explained to her, to Sydney, that she could join them in a lifestyle of group sex and selling stolen antiques. She freaked out. It sounds so attractive though. i get to hold on i get to do whatever your fat disgusting sweaty ass wants me to do and i get to sell stolen antiques wow wow that's that's fuck man when do we fleece an elderly couple in ne? When can we do that? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:32:05 Are we going to go around like taking coins out of parking meters next? This sounds great. He said that he bound Sidney's hands and led her into the bedroom to calm her down. Because that calms people down when they freak out. You tie them up and lead them into your bedroom. They usually chill right out then. They usually chill right out then. He said instead he choked her to death with an electrical cord because he didn't want to disrupt his living of the good life of sex and stolen money with his young girlfriend.
Starting point is 02:32:32 Jesus. He admitted to strangling her with an extension cord and dismembering her body. He said he did so because it was the only way to remove her from the apartment. How else was I going to get her out? People would have saw. He said he disposed of the remains in Clay County where they laid for 19 days before being discovered. He said, I've done some terrible things in my life, but this is the only thing I feel regret about, which is an awful statement to make. I've never felt bad for anything.
Starting point is 02:32:59 I can't say I'm sorry. No. Because that would be an insult for what would be an insult for what I put you through. That's what he said. That would be an insult for what would be an insult for what I put you through. That's what he said. That would be an insult for what would be an insult. That's his exact words for what I put you through. He said that to the family and they did like a hands up. Like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about right now, bro. That didn't make any sense.
Starting point is 02:33:19 Then the judge has his say here. The judge describes him as cold and calculated, said, quote, Ms. Loof was needlessly murdered by Mr. Trail to satisfy his curiosity and sexual desires. This is District Judge Vicki Johnson said that the murder showed exceptional depravity because Trail selected his victims based on certain characteristics. Young, attractive women who were attracted to his girlfriend. Yeah. defend themselves as she was tied up. They said Ms. Loof was completely harmless and her murder was completely unnecessary. Trails, bad childhood and disadvantaged uprave upbringing is given some weight, but the weight of this mitigating circumstance does not approach or exceed the overwhelming evidence of exceptional depravity found in this case. And,
Starting point is 02:34:21 uh, they said you, sir, may fuck off. Death by lethal injection. Oh, shit. I'm not a big death penalty guy, but I will run this guy over with my car tomorrow. I swear to fuck.
Starting point is 02:34:34 I'd rather just. I'll do it for. Actually, my car's kind of low to the ground. He's fat, so I'll figure out a different way, but whatever it is. Can you drag him behind you? I just dunk his head in the fucking bathtub and drown him. I don't really care. I'll get this over with tomorrow because this guy's an asshole.
Starting point is 02:34:48 I'd love to see him drug behind a vehicle. That would be one. He's fat, too. He'd be bouncing all over the place. Like 15 miles an hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For a while. Like a country road, though.
Starting point is 02:35:01 Until he's just a gray spot. Yeah, Jesus Christ, man. So the defense here, his attorney said they weren't surprised by the death sentence. He's a scumbag and we're terrible lawyers, so this is not surprising, honestly. This is going to happen. We figured this is what happens most of the time. Most of the time. They said that they were caught off guard by his statements to the Loof family.
Starting point is 02:35:25 Everything that caught them off guard. They didn't expect him to slash his throat in the middle of trial either. Jesus, God. The lawyer said, we really didn't have an inkling about his statement. I mean, he assured us that he was not going to cause any trouble. He was not going to be disruptive. He was going to be appropriate in his comments. I really believe he did intend to help
Starting point is 02:35:45 the luth uh luth family and hopefully it did i know that's difficult to say but hopefully it did i don't think it did so now quickly she has a trial too bailey has a trial as well what happens there same evidence it's all they allow all of his shit in here now all the things that he said uh the jurors examined photos of recovered body parts they talk about how she was recruiting women for a long time to for sex and for all these things um they get another they get the same woman who testified at his trial to testify at her trial talking about all the shit she did and that they were talking about snuff videos this woman goes through all this and said i paid three psychologists to forget this what she's going over now uh but she didn't forget it apparently so um yeah they they do all of that she they talk about um she
Starting point is 02:36:39 this woman said she was convinced by the way or that this guy convinced people that he was a flying mind reading vampire. That's just how it goes. And had the ability to hypnotize people. So another woman said that another woman had told her that he could fly. Like, I've seen him fly. It's cool. He can do it. Only does it like special occasions, you know, like a summer solstice or something.
Starting point is 02:37:04 He did it for me, so don't worry. I've seen it. So, yeah, a bunch of people testified about the rules and all that sort of thing. Other people testified about how they were recruited by Boswell under false names and sugar daddies and all that kind of shit. Interesting. So the verdict comes in on her. She's also mad fucking guilty. Yeah. Guilty as shit. Even easily more proven guilty because she's the one who was communicating.
Starting point is 02:37:33 Right. She's the one talking. Now, during sentencing, because she's up for death penalty as well, a psychologist hired by the defense said that Bailey had turned to alcohol and drugs to deal with emotional abuse and verbal berating by a college coach. Okay. This has to do with what now? What's going on? Also that she had been sexually assaulted in college and made to believe it was her fault and then suffered beatings and sexual punishments by her boyfriend, a football player who had seemed charming at first and later trafficked her on Backpage.
Starting point is 02:38:07 Really? For her to, yeah, to fucking, you know, sex acts for money. So that's their plea here. Her mother pleas for her life. Her mother said, come on. She said, quote, I don't think she deserves to die. Her daughter loves us and so do the rest of us okay remember she's got a kid right during these pleads boswell's crying in the courtroom
Starting point is 02:38:33 her grandma came out and asked for leniency not just not just for her not even particularly for her but for the sake of her child yeah said she loves her daughter like she would say to the moon and back. She's not the person the court has made her out to be. Her dad got up there and said she's a good person. I know that because I raised her. She said that if it wasn't for Aubrey Trail, we
Starting point is 02:38:58 wouldn't be in this courtroom right now discussing anybody's death or anything else or whether my daughter should be put to death. She said the Bailey they know and the belly I know are two different people. And the abuse is what I believe caused that. And if it wasn't for this abuse, she wouldn't have been involved with trail. They said that abuse started after a normal childhood. Her biological father was murdered, by the way.
Starting point is 02:39:22 Oh, Jesus. When she was young, when she was an infant. So it wasn't like she, whatever. She knew that. No. So, yeah, they said she was a normal kid. She didn't get into trouble. She was bright.
Starting point is 02:39:34 She got a basketball scholarship to play for AIB Business School in Des Moines. I didn't know business schools had basketball teams, but apparently they do. But that's when her life took a turn. And they say that she was sexually assaulted in college then met a man named freddie and that became abusive and she said i remembered several times she'd come home with bruises all over her bruises on her arms her neck her eyes then she became pregnant with his child and she said while she was pregnant freddie threw her down the stairs and kicked her in the face
Starting point is 02:40:05 the father said there were several times he had to drive to pick up Bailey when the abuse got too bad they said we tried to tell her to get out of there then her daughter was taken away from her due to Freddie's drug use and given to them put in their custody
Starting point is 02:40:21 this is a fucking mess obviously they said she wasn't the same girl that went to college she had no self to them, put in their custody. This is a fucking mess, obviously. They said she wasn't the same girl that went to college. She had no self-esteem. She wasn't happy, bubbly self like she was when she left for college. She was just different. She didn't have a drive or motivation. They also said she's been dominated by Trail, and when Aubrey Trail shows up,
Starting point is 02:40:40 she's the perfect victim to fall to Aubrey Trail's coercion. I plead with you not to put my daughter to death. I'd have to explain it to her daughter, and I don't know how to do it. I mean, yeah, any parent would feel like that. The prosecutor said that Trail didn't prey upon
Starting point is 02:40:58 Boswell. In fact, she sought him out on a website seeking a sugar daddy. That's how they met. Oh, is that right? He didn't meet her and get her into his web. She was looking for a fucking sugar daddy. That's how she got him. He said Trail didn't swoop into the restaurant one night and take her. He found her advertising on Backpage looking for a sugar daddy, and that's what she got.
Starting point is 02:41:21 Oh, my word. The judge said that the found the state had proven the sole aggravating factor alleged that the killing manifested exceptional depravity under state law been coldly planned. She relished in the crime, showed needless mutilation and senseless killing and helplessness of the senselessness of the killing and helplessness of the victim. of the killing and helplessness of the victim boswell's actions and words demonstrated she had no regard for the life of sydney loof beyond her own personal pleasure you ma'am may fuck off life in prison plus 50 years for conspiracy and two years for unlawful disposal of human remains wow so yeah they banged her good but no death penalty she's not getting out right i she's so young that who knows you know what i mean she could get out because she was so young not for a while though no it'll be a while uh very quickly trail appeals
Starting point is 02:42:17 his shit based on the fact that they didn't call a mistrial when he cut his throat well i mean which is wow that's fucking the judge. Judge said, as with other defendants, we will not permit trail to benefit from his own bad behavior during trial. Thank you. Any idiot could have said that could have said that. 2023, a true crime report lady trying to write a true crime book. lady trying to write a true crime book, Samantha L. Rakabi,
Starting point is 02:42:45 I'm sorry, had a quest for information about this murder for a book she was trying to write here, developed a relationship with Aubrey Trail, and helped him extort a prison nurse in 2021. What the fuck? What the fuck? Stop it. Pick another
Starting point is 02:43:02 case, man. Are you kidding me? As people who do have to, we have to come up with two a fucking week, and we've never fucking tried to help a murderer to do it. I'm sorry. You don't have to. She had to go talk to him, and she fell into his clutches, I guess. He manipulated her enough to help extort the nurse? and up to help extort the nurse the nurse the suspect here also hers samantha l ricabi also befriended the nurse in her pursuit of information for her book they thought of themselves as true crime buffs that hang out together jerks trail eventually began communicating with the nurse
Starting point is 02:43:38 who told trail uh that she was having a relationship troubles with her husband trail manipulated the nurse telling her that he hired a hitman to with her husband. Trell manipulated the nurse, telling her that he hired a hitman to kill her husband and the job could only be stopped if she paid him $25,000. Wow. He also convinced the nurse to smuggle contraband into prison for him, including a phone, chewing tobacco, and a gun. Get me some chaw.
Starting point is 02:44:02 And a gun. I need some Copenhagen in here. Wow. I get the Copenhagen in here. Wow. I get the gun and the phone, but, like, fucking he misses cope that much? Well, I mean, yeah, you could sell that in there, too. Oh, that's a good point. Trell told the nurse to, quote, bring me a gun so I can just kill everybody. Wow.
Starting point is 02:44:22 El Rakabi, the writer, was apparently with the nurse when she took the funds from her fucking bank account to do this bullshit here. Yeah. Also claimed that she thought she would kill her son, who was also an inmate, if she didn't carry out the extortion plot. The nurse quit her job. Trail also mentioned his intent to have a firearm smuggled into the prison and discussed the compromised staff member and her desire to have her husband killed in order to prevent him from obtaining her pension through divorce. Phone calls obtained apparently showed Al Rakabi joking with Trail about how they were going to swindle $25,000 from this fucking person. Wow. What an asshole. Aubrey files in 2023. Aubrey filed a petition to proceed with execution. Okay, good.
Starting point is 02:45:12 Let's get this shit over with. As far as Sidney goes, her coworkers at Menards raised money to buy a plaque for a bench at the Henry Dorley Zoo, one of her favorite places. Money given to the family and her memory purchased two more bench plaques at the zoo. And the Omaha-based Set Me Free project, which fights human trafficking and promotes social media safety, created a $3,000 scholarship in Sidney's name for a Nebraska high school student seeking to study criminal justice, social work, or cyber safety after graduation. Social work, too.
Starting point is 02:45:44 Social work, too. Wow, that's beautiful. graduation. Social work, too. She's a... Social work, too. Wow, that's beautiful. So there you go, everybody. Now can you understand why, like we said, other people have done the case, but we have gotten so many requests, and I know why now. I do.
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