Small Town Murder - #498 - The Mysterious Disappearing Murderer - Jackson, New Hampshire

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

This week, in Jackson, New Hampshire, when the couple that runs the local Inn are horribly bound, stabbed, and burned, detectives immediately look at their daughter's MUCH older boyfriend, who no one seems to trust. When police finally catch up to him, it's in a most horrific way. But did this killer use other bodies to fake his own suicide? It's a wild mystery, leaving police forces fighting with each other over the truth!!Along the way, we find out that "local" comedians are rarely worth the trouble, that you generally don't want your daughter to date people who are older than you, and that some people are just born evil!!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Let's do this everybody. Okay. Let's go on a trip, shall we? Let's do it. Let's go somewhere. Let's the extreme northeast. Let's go up there. Skipping through the field, skipping through. We're going to Eastern New Hampshire here. We're going to New Hampshire.

It's Jackson, New Hampshire is the name of it. It's in far Eastern New Hampshire near the main border over there. So, and it's a little bit North in New Hampshire too. So it's, this is in the white mountains. This is like skiing country and this is good stuff. Nice area here. It's about the lakes. It's pretty. This is a the White Mountains. This is like skiing country and this is nice area here. It's about the lakes It's pretty this is a very pretty area This is where people go on vacation like yeah, you go here for if you're from Boston You go here for a week in the summer. It's where what about Bob was supposedly where they're supposed They didn't film it there, but like when a pesaki is up there

It's that area up and it's got these covered bridges that people, like this one covered bridge, it looks just like the one from Funny Farm, and it's just like that, it's one of those. It's country as fuck, man. It is, it's about an hour and a half to Portland, Maine, that's the nearest place of any big place, and then three hours to Boston, so if you wanna get there. A lot of times, Boston people live in New Hampshire,

but not all the way up here. Not up there. No, it's about two and a half hours to Lempster, New Hampshire, which was episode 443, our last New Hampshire episode, writing your murder script. That, I remember, guy was an idiot. So this is in Carroll County. Population is 998 people here.

Wow. Small mountain town. Those are the permanent residents, and then people come more in the winter and also in the summer. Wealthy, right? Well, no, the median household income here, $70,341. Okay. So okay, but it's not about the national average and the median home price here, $541,500. Very expensive. They have a motto here bridging the centuries Okay, so trying to it's old. It's old-school shit. It's historic and they got a bridge. So they put that all in one

Like Mount Washington is big there That's the hiking and camping and the White Mountain National Forest and all of that a little bit of history quickly The town was first named new mad berry Which sounds like a mental institution. You're gonna get sent to New Madberry if you keep acting like that, like drooling and throwing shit. There's a madberry in UK obviously. Everything here is new, but it's, I don't know. It's named after something old. Yeah, and it's New Mad Berry. So yeah, there was a Mad Berry that they named it after in 1772 a road was built through Pinkham Notch and that's where our stuff happens is in Pinkham Notch

Pinkham P I N K H a M pink ham notch And this area was first settled in 1778 Then by 1800 the community was renamed after President John Adams, who just became president. So they were like, cool, they called it Adams. And that stuck for about 30 years. And then they got lost a little steam for John Adams, weren't so excited with him anymore.

Number two, who cares about that guy? Then by, they need to stop naming their town after flavors of the month because things are excited about now because then in 1829 they renamed it Jackson after Andrew Jackson because he was the hero of the Battle of New Orleans. And then he became president as we know and did some very not nice things. And so. Right. A racist bird for Christ's sake. It's wild here.

The governor at the time was a big backer of Andrew Jackson, so he was influential in this. Only one vote was cast against the switch in the whole town. Really? Everybody did it. Then in 2021, the town residents again, decided that it's now not named after Andrew,

and this is stupid, because you named it after Andrew Jackson, just say that's what it was, it was a long time ago, what do you want from us? Instead they say now it's to honor geologist Charles Thomas Jackson, who no one's ever fucking heard of. Whatever, I don't care, either way. I mean, don't name towns after Andrew Jackson and then don't rename them after geologists,

that's my advice. In 1983 they said it was after Michael Jackson. Yeah By the mid 90s they were like no no no no no no it's after Latoya Jackson. Yeah, that's right. That's better They said it was Janet Jackson then the Super Bowl thing happened her tick came out and they went god damn it Can one fucking nice person named Jackson exist, please? I Can one fucking nice person named Jackson exist, please? I don't care. So it's best known for its red covered bridge, known as the Honeymoon Bridge.

And it was built in 1876. And it's still there? Still there, and one of the most photographed things in the state, and you're crazy for driving a modern car over it. I would never, never. No, I'd take a picture of it, I'd look at it, I'd walk across it.

The cars it was built to hold weighed like 1300 pounds. Well, fuck, the cars it was built to hold had horses in front of them, first of all. The cars that it was built to hold shit as they walked. Well, those horses still weighed more than the fucking cars that came after them. Oh, shit, yeah, those were like little buggies, those things. Like kids' toys, the first cars.

So reviews of this town, here's five stars. Quintessential New England town. That makes sense. Easy to meet new friends, wonderful community, great restaurants, close to hiking, skiing, downhill and cross country. Great views, lots of activities, bike club, pickleball, hiking groups, et cetera, et cetera. Many non-profit volunteer opportunities. Habitat, Kiwanis Observatory, et cetera.

Medical services lacking. Grocery store limited choices. You're in the middle of the mountains. In the middle of nowhere. You've got 900 people. What do you want? Overrun with tourists at times. Closest airport, a few hour drive.

Yeah, because you're gonna have to go to Portland to then go to Boston, or just drive to Boston. That's gonna be your choice there. Four stars, I love this town. Do you? I love it. It's small, outdoorsy, and people take a lot of pride in it. I wish there were more affordable housing options. Yeah, it's nice.

That's why it's, it's also nice. The nicer the place is, usually that's expensive because a lot of people like to live in nice places. That's the problem. The other thing is that those communities, when those homes are so historic, you're not allowed to level it unless it catches on fire, man. Exactly. These people have inherited these houses too and all that. They didn't all buy it. It's very historic. Things to do here. I don't know how historic this is. The Wild Quack Duck Race and Music Festival. Okay. And, uh, Rubber Ducks. They put, there's this creek with, it looks like there's, it's like shallow,

but it looks rapidly and there's rocks everywhere and they just release shit loads of rubber ducks into it, which just seems like pollution at that point. I feel like you're not gonna find all those I guess they try their best to scoop them all out, right? I guess so they they go they start a parade at the covered bridge and then they go in and do their whole deal there They have a you get this Enjoy the start of summer with a two night stay package, a small cheese and quackers plate, quote unquote. Why is everything duck?

Two official duck entries in Sunday's race. Additional ducks are, to enter are $6 each or four for 20. Breakfasts and afternoon refreshments, of course they'll be ducky, it says. Right. Duck shit and ducky goodies, it says. says so and if that's not enough for you If I haven't convinced you to be here Well, it says then family fun-filled day in the park that offers rubby rubber ducky races live music with local favorites

Al Schaffner Yeah, and Dennis and Davey. I mean, I didn't know they were back together. That's the thing. I've seen Dennis and I've seen Davey like separately and they're fine. But like together is, you know, that's, they're, it's, they're going to be better obviously together. They're both taking less money to do this gig.

To Voltron themselves together again, get this done. And finally a special appearance by a New England favorite comedian, Bucky Lewis. Would you like to see Bucky Lewis? Oh, Bucky. He's got two chainsaws. He's got a he's got one of those fucking hats with the ear flaps. He's got a look on his face like he's like, What am I doing? And he's got a big chainsaw and a guitar in the other hand. And here is him. Oh, no shirt. No shirt, no pants.

He said, for Chrysler takes his shirt off. I'll do you one better. Here's my dick with a guitar over it. Block my dick with this fucking Les Paul. Bucky Lewis. I would kill myself if I had to watch Bucky Lewis based on his pictures. They can't afford Bob Marley?

Jesus. Nope. Entry is free. Thank fuck. Moving on. I would not pay shit for that. Let's see here. Let's talk about a murder, shall we everybody?

Or more than one murder. Let's talk about some murder. This is gonna be 10 pounds of murder in a two pound bag here. And I wanted this to, as we, you know, go up to 500, I wanted to really, let's build it man. And sure for an explosion of 500, a big 500 money, money shot that Bucky would be proud of. He wants $500. He wants 500 for that. All right. Let's go back in time here to 1985.

OK, let's talk about some people at the time. One is Malcolm Bailey Jennings is his name. He's 54 years old in 1985 and he is married to a woman named Elizabeth. Elizabeth Ellen Anderson Jennings. When they got married. She's 47, so they're 54 and 47. It's 1985, and Malcolm and Elizabeth, they go by Mal and Betty,

as Betty is short for Elizabeth very often. So they also have a daughter and a son. They have a son named Christopher. He was born in 1961, and then they have a daughter named Paige, who was born in 1964. And Paige have a daughter named Paige who was born in 1964 and Paige is P-A-G-E. Not, there's no eye in there. Just like a page in a book. Now Mal and Betty own and run the Dana Place Inn which is an inn of charming. It's a place where you'd go it's like it's charming it's in Pinkham

Notch it's in the in the mountains it's a it's a place where you'd go, it's like it's charming, it's in pink-a-notch, it's in the mountains, it's like a bed and breakfast type joint. New England Inn is fucking legit. It's awesome, this is like exactly what you'd want to in the middle of nowhere, it's not in like a city area, a bunch of tourists. You're getting French press in the morning. Oh, it's gonna be awesome, it's gonna be nice.

Imagine how good the breakfast is, you know, it's probably good, I don't even like breakfast, but it's probably good. There's no falters, it's fantastic. It's gonna be great, Imagine how good the breakfast is. It's probably good. I don't even like breakfast, but it's probably good. It's fantastic. It's gonna be great. They've been running this place since 1960. So 25 years they've been running this place. Like the first one. They bought it and then their son was born the next year

and then they've just been raised. This is the family business, is this in. So they're always there and it's year round because in the summer there's people there because it's year-round because in the summer There's people there because it's beautiful for hiking and then in the winter. There's the skiers and the fall they come just to look at leaves It's beautiful now Paige a little bit about her. She's tall real tall girl Paige You know pretty brown hair that kind of thing She's athletic to a champion javelin thrower and a high school honor student as well.

So I mean she is like an athlete, a student, she's doing it all. She ends up going to Simmons College in Boston but drops out of Simmons College. She drops out pretty early here too. She drops out in her, I think her second year, sophomore year. She takes off and moves to Alaska.

Oh. Which is where you go to run from things. So I don't know what she's running from. Yeah, how much does she hate New England? I think maybe it's one of those things where she, being in the family business all your life like that, give her no families that are in the restaurant business. Their kids go to the restaurant after school, they do their homework in the corner table

that nobody's using, they leave the restaurant at 11 o'clock with mom and dad and go home. It's a weird business. And if it's an inn, they're there all the time. So it's, you know, your whole identity. My friend's family ran that Chinese food restaurant on the the corner 30 second and say that poor kid came to school Yeah, the poor kid came to school Stinking yeah of kitchen because they're poor kid there and you spend your whole day there. Yeah, I remember it's awful It's it's terrible man. Yeah, you always do that. So she takes off for Alaska where no one's gonna

No one's gonna tell her to live at this place. So her brother Christopher wrote an article in the paper, it's a small place, about her leaving. Such a small place that she's going to Alaska, it's in the newspaper. Wow. And this isn't 1922, this is 1985 here. Fucking Back to the Future was out for Christ's sake.

This is... Well, but still, she's going from one of the first states to like the last one. To the second to last one, yeah. She's going right there. The sister, Betty, by the way, mom, kept clippings of the newspaper, and Chris said, I know she'll be back

and she'll be a better person for going, but that awful empty feeling crept into my stomach as I watched her leave. My little sister, all grown up, and it was all right for me to cry because I'll miss her. That's what he wrote. So they're all very close, a very tight knit family. They're close and running a business together like that.

It's not, the kids don't go home and go in their room and the parents sit in the living room and watch TV. They're working together all the time. She meets a man, okay, in Alaska. Not an Alaskan man, but a man. He is 28 years older than her. Older, not older. Not 28 years old. He's 49. Oh, in 1985. He's 20. This is because when she left, she was like 18 to go to Alaska She left even earlier she left in her freshman year of college, but she goes there. He's 28 years older. He's older than her mom No shit. He's two years older than her mom That's why and it's dating. That's well his name. Let's get into him here. His name is glide

Glide have you ever heard? Like Astro. Like Astro, G-L-Y-D-E, like Clyde with a G. Yeah. I've never heard that name before. Like Drexler's nickname. Exactly, Clyde the Glide. He's like, I like that. Glide Earl Meek is his name. That's an old man.

Wow, Glide Earl Meek, M-E-E-K, like he will inherit the earth, fucking Meek. So he also has several aliases, one of which being Daniel Daniels. Okay, if you can pick a name, you can pick anything. You could be cool Johnny McKickass if you wanna be, you could be anything you want. He picks Daniel Daniels as his fucking Nick,

as his alias. It is confusing, that's what it is. It's so stupid you wouldn't think anyone would make that up though. Right. Or he's just can't think of any other name. It's just really. It's your name, Daniel.

I got that Elton John song stuck in my head and it wouldn't stop. Daniels. Daniels. Daniel, my brother, I mean Daniels. That is too much. So he was born in Pasco, Washington in 1935. Mm-hmm.

Okay. Six years after her dad. That's wild shit. He's the second of three boys, so he's the middle child. His parents are Pearl and Joe Meek. Joe was a lineman for the power company. No shit. In Seattle, yeah, so we all know that.

You were at the power company. Cyrus' dad worked for the power company for decades. It Yeah, so we all know that. You were at the power company. Cyrus' dad worked for the power company for decades. It's a tough goddamn job, man. And he would come home from a day of that hard job and beat the shit out of his wife all the time. Oh yeah. Just kicked the shit out of her. One of the neighbors said, quote,

he was a no good, good for nothing brute. That's what she said about her. Both those things mean the same thing. Same thing. No good, good for nothing, brute. That's what she said about her. Both those things mean the same thing. Same thing. No good, good for nothing. I guess in her mind, he's no good, he's a shithead, and he's not even like helpful with things. He's good for nothing too.

He's good for nothing. Because he could be no good, but he also helped her put in her storm windows, you know what I mean? Like that could happen. It could go both ways. But here not. Good for nothing. Meek's parents finally got a divorce. Uh, mom would work and glide.

And his older brother, Alfred and his younger brother Michael were raised by his aunt because his mom worked multiple jobs. Um, cousin Roger, who is the, the, the son of the aunt there, their cousin said that glide Earl was a quote, a scoundrel even as a child. Real rascals, this Glide. Said he was a thief from four, five and six.

That's what he told people. Oh man. Four, five and six. That's a thief. Just right out of the gate, man. He did say he had a million dollar personality and a real gift with folks. He's a bullshit artist. That's what he is. Yeah, that's a real gift with folks. He's a bullshit artist. That's what he is.

That's a manipulator. A con man, a manipulator. It's just that there was a missing link somewhere, the guy said, which is a great way to describe him. Another high school classmate said that Meek was, quote, a guy that couldn't live by society's rules. He had a lot of talent, but he just couldn't keep within the system, which is why people go to Alaska. Those are exactly the people that go to Alaska,

because I can do whatever I want up there, no one gives a shit or notices. So he went to Pasco High School in the early 50s, was there two years, then transferred to Walla Walla High. He was, by a teacher, described him as an honor student without effort. Yes. He could do it. And he's an athlete, too. He's great at sports, he's a football player, described him as an honor student without effort. Hmm. Yes. I mean.

He could do it. And he's an athlete too. He's great at sports. He's a football player. He's a wrestler. He's, I think he's captain of the wrestling team here too and shit like that. Like he's popular. Problem solver.

Popular athletic honor student. Like sky's the limit for this guy. One time he was in front of a classmate, he climbed to the top of the Bonneville Power Administration transmission tower in Sacajawea Park, jumped off, grabbed the insulators and swung on them like a monkey. Yeah. He did what Tango and Cash did to get out of prison. Swing on power lines. Just for shits and giggles.

Why would you do that? The balls on somebody to do that. I mean, if you accidentally, while holding that, touch anything, it's over for you. You're going to explode. Luckily it's so far up in the air that if he didn't come off it right, he'd also die. So yeah, there's that too. There's that. They said he swung on them

like a monkey. One person said that then he swung back to safety just as easily as he got out there they said. Unreal. His classmates said I thought sure he was grabbing hot wires but he did things like that. He was always out for thrills. Thrill seeker. Another classmate said that he could me could scale the side of a building and I saw him do it. His hands must be so, to be able to jump off and grab onto something and hold your body weight as you're falling,

your hands have to be so strong. Then to be able to climb the outside of a building. Wow. He said he likened him to a gorilla. He said Meek was like a gorilla. He said he told a newspaper that Meek never graduated from college because he was caught stealing a car. We'll talk about that too.

He was at Walla Walla High School. While he was there, he was vice president of the student body. Upon graduating, he went to Washington State University, big college, on an athletic scholarship. Which one? Wrestling. Wow. He was the captain of the wrestling team at Washington State University.

He only weighed 185 pounds and by 30 years later, he still weighed 190 pounds. So he kept in shape, held it together. He was known as a quote, good second story man, which if you don't know means he's a good burglar. Oh. A guy who can get into the second story of a place, not just a ground floor burglar.

Because ground floor people lock their doors. Above that they go, well, no one's gonna climb up here. He does. They can't. He would climb walls and slip into buildings through the roof or through an upper story window that people would leave open because who's gonna climb up a fucking wall

like Spider-Man? Yeah, and this is his job, right? This is what he does for work? He just steals shit, and then he has jobs here and there. They said he was so powerful. His classmates said he had a crazy body, like a gorilla. His muscles and ripped. He got married in 1959, divorced in 64,

leaving his wife with two sons that he'll never talk to again, just takes off. He makes no attempt to contact his sons ever in their entire life, and they have no idea that he's even their father. He's just gone, he's a sperm donor. So he went to burglary in the early 60s and would break into those buildings everywhere.

He was caught in 1962 and the prosecutor said five or six establishments had been burglarized in Walla Walla, also a J.C. Penny store in Seattle. He said he used to go in through the rooftops of stores. He was a hell of a roof burglar. That's the prosecutor that said that He was caught. He said when we caught him. He had a u-haul full of about ten thousand in stolen goods He's so good. He got a u-haul for it ten grand in product in the 60s Wow, he said clothing liquor from Salt Lake City stores If you met him in a pub instead of on the battlefield, you'd say he's one of the nicest guys around

I've been at this job a long time And he's about my favorite crook. That's what the guy said my favorite crook What the fuck is that He's stealing liquor from places in Salt Lake. It's all half. It's all half speed anyway No shit my favorite crook from the prosecutor. So that means he's a fun guy, he likes him. He was sent to Walla Walla Prison. First he seemed like a model prisoner.

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Sign Company. Didn't expect that. He's going to be an entrepreneur. He's a businessman. He's not lazy. We'll say that much. I mean, so in 1972 his mother Pearl, who had a tough life, committed suicide. Fuck. It was a woman who was beaten for 20 years and then had to work multiple jobs and went to the ground for years after that. She became an alcoholic and was depressed. She drove her Mustang to a ballpark, parked, and then left the engine running with a hose there and carbon monoxide fumes killed her. They said that Meek Glide Earl wept and wept and wept at the funeral, cried, cried, cried.

People said they liked him. In prison, his nickname was Shorty by the way, and they said he was a likeable hard-working guy. One guy said if your car had trouble and was on the side of the road, he'd be the first person to pull over and help. He might also steal your car, but he'll get it running first. Ask him to put some shit in your trunk for him. Yeah, I got some goods, maybe. His second marriage fell apart, and his friend said that everything went to hell after that.

He got a second arrest for burglary and was given a one-year sentence. He had a successful business. What the fuck are you burglaring for? Burgling for. I think he, it's weird like when, when anything happens, like he needs the instability. He likes the craziness. He likes chaos.

You know what I mean? Chaos, yeah. He's given a one year sentence. He's paroled in the late seventies. Then he meets a woman named Debbie Alderfer, who's from Pennsylvania. And shortly afterwards, he's arrested while attempting to shoplift a $7 pair of pants. He went from being like a cat burglar, like, da da da da da, music playing in the background while he's dressed in black with like a fucking grappling hook.

He went from that to... Tarzan lasers. Yeah. He went from that to, I got caught stealing some tough skins at the Kmart. That's That's bad. I don't know what it is. It's just yeah, it's my first mic your first guess That's bad rustlers, oh man, yes, maybe it is Wranglers or rustlers, so he didn't want to go back to jail, so he fled. He flees to Spokane, taking Debbie with him, Alderfer. Then he went to Tucson, where he started

another sign business. Because Tucson, always looking for new scum to inhabit Tucson, they don't care. They need signs. We need it. So about that time, he began using the alias Daniel Michael Daniels So he said it was one of about ten false names. He used it various times

He's also a super possessive husband who per forbade Debbie to call her parents ever never allowed to call her parents We don't call our dad. Yeah, that's some guy from high school. Yeah mom not, not allowed. For eight years she didn't call. Eight years. Eight years. Yep. She said, I loved him. I felt my life with him was worth it. He had me convinced that if I call my parents, the line would be traced and he would be sent

back to jail. Eight years of this. Eight years. Eight years they got a trap on her parents' phone because he stole a pair of tough skins out of fucking Mervins. Are you joking? Are you kidding me right now? That is bonkers so he

he apparently went to a chiropractor Okay, he went to a chiropractor in the early eighties in Arizona. This is important because the chiropractor will treat him at a clinic and take six X-rays of his back. Okay. The only pictures of him that exists like this and they're going to come in very handy later. So, um, big deal. So in 1983,

these two moved to Alaska, he and Debbie, with the hope of panning for gold. That's the plan? That's your plan. That's not what it turns into. His plan was, I'm going to get me a pan and a pick and work the rivers. In what year? 1983. Not 1883, 1983. Wow. He ended up being the caretaker of a vacation lodge at Seal Bay, and that is where he meets Paige Jennings, who also got a job there,

because she has a lot of experience in Inns, so she gets there. Yep, she meets him at a lodge. This is near outside of Anchorage. She worked in the kitchen, because she knows what she's doing there. He worked as the handyman. And yeah, her friend Betsy said she went up there to find herself and she was very very vulnerable

This guy gave her something she couldn't get from anybody else. I Don't know why but he's Yes a nugget maybe yeah So at this point, he's like balding, you know, he's in his late 40s, he's super muscular, tons of aliases and he's got three prison terms for burglaries and car thefts and everything else. The ideal companion. Oh, and more than twice your age, older than your mom. And still married. And still married. Perfect. What a great relationship this is going to turn out for this poor kid. So yeah, he's been described as everybody up there is strong and roguishly charming.

So he fits in perfect up there. He's the caretaker and he is immediately into Paige. Sees her and he's like, boom, that's my girl right there. 20 year old gal, crazy. 20, yeah, weird that he'd be like I want that so You later on he'll say the love we had and always had since our eyes first met in Alaska Has been so strong that we both have proven it more than Proven it more than most people show in a lifetime

That's how he said now his wife wasn't quite as happy with this relationship No He was which is strange that his wife would't quite as happy with this relationship as he was. Which is strange that his wife would not be okay with him fucking a 20 year old. Or anybody really, but especially a 20 year old from work. She said that Paige had a lot of problems. Which maybe she did.

She said that Glide seemed to want to help her out and protect her and he became obsessed with her They realized he could control her because she's vulnerable and young and he's older and a criminal so Naive and she liked the attentions of this guy He took her on nature trips and you know all that kind of thing. They would go out looking for bald Eagles literally, let's go looking for bald eagles. Literally, let's go look for bald eagles. And she went on a trip with him. They went to do things. One page wrote this, when one thinks of the American bald eagle, visions of thundering, snow capped

mountains and rushing rivers in Canada, Alaska, and the northern states invade the mind. Keep your eyes skyward and your ears open. Maybe one day you'll see the magnificent bird overhead. Okay. In the northeast too. There's eagles here. I see them in my yard all the time, like in my woods constantly. You go down by the creek.

You've seen them here. Yeah, it's a fucking majestic as shit, yeah. I mean, they're in New Hampshire. She's fucking seen them growing up. She's seen everything. Yeah, she's seen everybody. But I guess, I don't know, it's different in Alaska. It's different in Alaska.

Yeah, there's no salmon being swept out of the river here. Shit just hits different up here. You know what I mean? So in the fall of 1983, they leave Alaska. When I say they, I mean, Glide, Paige glide page and Debbie the three of them leave together I guess if he can convince a lady to not talk to her parents for eight years You could probably talk her into anything this 20 year old coming with us. Yeah, eventually Debbie wasn't happy and she took off Later on she'd say I'm not bitter now. I was hoping he would find some kind of happiness, but I guess he didn't

Later on she'd say, I'm not bitter now, I was hoping he would find some kind of happiness, but I guess he didn't. So October 83, an excited Paige takes this fucking dirt bag home to visit her parents in Jackson, New Hampshire, who are nice New England innkeeper people who did not raise her to go out with this guy. Right. They have pistachio muffin on the pillow. They were horrified by him. They said he looked like a fucking homeless guy.

He's older than the mom. Plus they said he's like he's terrible manners. He eats like he's in prison. Of course. He's just like a scumbag. Like where did you find this scumbag? It's awful. Using bread as a utensil.

Yeah. And they're not, what future does this man have in 20 years? How's he going to, she's going to be what 40 and taking care of his old ass, right? Wiping him. 65 year old man. It's crazy. So the brother Christopher said the guy had no history. Well, he had a lot of history, just not a history he was willing to share with you. He had no history, no ambition. She could have done a lot better. That's what he thought. He did describe Glide as quiet and low-key because he knew how to play it because it's a New England town.

So he's a con artist. He knows what to do. But Mal and Betty were horrified at this. Horrified. A friend said quote, they hated him. So they were like, huh, we can't stay here. So they moved to Texas in late 1983, moving into a duplex in Palm Harbor, Texas, near the town of Rockport. Palm Harbor.

Okay, if I gave you 10,000 guesses, you would never guess what Paige got a job as right now. Never, 10,000 guesses. You'd never get it. Palm Harbor is like, I know that those two words together because of trailers. Is she a trailer park attendee? No, it's a job you'd expect that from these two. A job you'd never expect her to do ever. Did she become the CEO of a fishing company, fishing gear company? Even stranger. She got a job as, fishing gear company? Even stranger.

She got a job as a sports writer at the local newspaper. What the fuck is happening? What does she know about sports? I didn't know she liked sports or even was a writer. I didn't know either of those things and neither did anybody else. She just got a job as a sports writer. I guess it's a small paper. It's a weekly paper called the Rockport Pilot and I guess she saw an ad and

was like I could bullshit my way through that probably and if she's a good writer and pretty smart maybe she could and she did. So yeah she did that. A co-worker, she's employed there for about five months. A co-worker remembered at least once if not more than once she came to work with bruises on her face. She said she had gotten in a fight with Glide. That's what happened. Fall 1984, they're still in Texas kind of going around. The Jennings here, Jennings's, Mal and Betty tell her it's either him or us. You can't come around here with him. Yeah, this is nuts. So they moved to Florida where she gets a job at the Stax restaurant inside the Holiday Inn.

Two X's right? One of those? No, no, no. CK. It's a restaurant in the Holiday Inn. It's not like a... Pancake place. Yeah, it's just a Denny's that doesn't have the Denny's Cachet. Doesn't have the cachet of IHOP, you know. God damn it. Jesus Christ, a coworker saw Meek pick her up at work a few times and said he looked rough looking. He's 50, but of course he's rough looking.

Yeah, the man's been to prison thrice. Yeah, no shit. He remembered how Meek would sit in a booth and drink coffee wearing a red and white baseball hat with the word PAGE stenciled across the bill. He got a custom hat. I'm here, I'm just working with Paige. So throughout December and January,

Meek came and went on mysterious business trips. Turns out he went to Louisiana, Texas, Jacksonville, Florida where he ended up buying a blue Fiat at some point, a car, which is weird. And then at some point, he stole another Fiat and painted it silver in Corpus Christi, Texas. At one point, Paige is talking to a friend, and Paige tells her friend Betsy that, yes, he beats me. Yes, that's true.

But she begged me not to understand her and not to judge her. I'm not judging you, I'm afraid for your safety. They're different. I want you out, Paige, come on. So her friend said she had no more sense of her own persona. There was no Paige left. It was what Betty and Maul wanted.

It was what Meek wanted. So she'd just follow other people. She saw a therapist. Her friend advised her why not go to a therapist, and she did. She actually sought help, which helped her a lot. She bought herself a puppy and went to live with her brother in Gainesville, Florida, Florida. Yup. Went to live with her brother. Christopher has got a good job and he worked in a newspaper in a newspaper advertising office. And so, yeah. And then, but she goes there, she's starting over, puppy, brother, therapy.

Done with the old man. Then Meek, who had gone to Seattle, leaves Seattle, shows up in December and moves in with them. What? December 84. Yep. Apparently, the parents heard about that and they said, that's it, don't come home for Christmas, we don't wanna see ya.

Neither of ya. Neither of ya. Well, Christopher can come home. He doesn't want the guy there. He said, I just came home and he's living in a room. What the fuck am I supposed to do? January 11th here, Chris, with his parents, told Paige and Meek to get out.

You gotta get out of my apartment. Can't live here anymore. He told Paige, who he always said was his best friend, his sister, that she could come back anytime she wants, just not with this scumbag. He can't be here. He said, my big beef with the guy was, what the hell do you do with your life?

I don't understand. Where is your goal? Don't you have a goal? You're a 49-year-old loser. I don't think he has a goal. Of course, you're a young man with all this ambition and shit. Calm down. No shit. Wait till you hit 40 motherfucker, you'll give up too.

He's like, I haven't given up. This guy gave up when he was 20. So Paige chooses Glide, Earl Meek, and they take a room at the Gator Court Motel in Gainesville. Oh no. Oh, it is hit rock bottom, as Gordon Ramsay would say. We're at rock bottom. He rented a storage space in a mini warehouse named Atkins Storage. And on January 11th, Paige went to collect her half of the apartment's deposit. And her brother saw her there.

Meek went after that. Meek heads north, but without her, leaves her in Florida. On January 12th, he booked a room in Brattleboro, North Carolina, and the next night checked into the Bridgeport Motor Inn, not in Pennsylvania, like the regular length episode this week, in Connecticut. Why I kept confusing it.

January 13th, 1985, Meek calls Chris Jennings, the brother, Page's brother, and tells him that he and Page were on a honeymoon in Miami. In Florida? Yeah. Meanwhile, he was in Connecticut the night before in a motel. So he didn't, Chris didn't talk to Page at that point. He just said, just wanted to tell you, we're there in Miami. Meek then pawns some of Page's jewelry in Portland, Maine on January 14th or 15th there,

so they know that he's around because he had to sign his name, so they know he's there and not in Florida. On January 14th, Meek is seen in Hartford, Connecticut attempting to pawn some jewelry. The pawnbroker recalled that Meek had said the jewelry belonged to his daughter who had died in a skiing accident. Trying to get a couple extra bucks for some sympathy here. Later in the same conversation, he switched stories

and said his daughter died in a car accident. The guy was like, okay. She was driving her car on the ski slope. It was a crazy thing to do, man. And she just crashed into a tree. She all hopped up on the Swiss slope. It was a crazy thing to do, man. And she just crashed into a tree. She's all hopped up on Swiss myths. You know how it is. You seen that girl on the, her, her hair ain't even blonde. It's the, it's the, it's the, it's the mist that turned it that way.

She's so hopped up all the marshmallows. Oh man. January 15th, 1985, there is a fire at the caretakers cottage at the inn, at the Jennings zone. There's a fire in Jackson. When they look around the structure, not the, it's not the actual inn itself,

it's a cottage that they stay in that the Malin Betty stay They find them inside bound and gagged with nylon ropes with their throats slashed and repeatedly stabbed good Lord a Passing truck drivers saw the cottage inflamed and call in flames and called Firefighters who found the bodies in separate bedrooms like that too They were taken away from each other. This is Disturbing to say the least the attorney William Payne said it was stark stark

I really remember having a feeling of being black and gray and white of It being black and gray and white. He said that's all he saw it in black and white It being black and gray and white. He said that's all he saw. I saw it in black and white So one of the guy Richard patch dick patch is his name. Don't name your kid dick patch, please He owns patches gun shop old dick patch course he does Of course it's guns to be like, yeah I'm dick patch. Good to see you. Name's Dick Bo Patch. How do you shave it down there? It's a dick patch.

It's a dick patch, that's what I do. I put extra hair on, call it a dick patch. He said, more people are aware that it doesn't always happen somewhere else, that it can happen here and they're taking measures to protect themselves. He's like, and I'd love to monger this fear as much as possible. I'm gonna. Come through today, 10% off anything. Yep, I'm gonna blow on it like it's a dying piece

of kindling, foster that shit until everyone comes to me and it's good for my business. So he said that a lot of guys between 35 and 55 are coming in, he said he's selling tons of ammo. He's doing great, he's doing great. He said that residents talk of nothing else but the killings and that people are scared. He said residents want to find a motive

so they can comfort themselves that there's not some crazed killer out there. Which, yeah, you want to find out who and why, that way you know they're not coming for you. They're not looking for random, nice people. So Chris moves up from Florida, quits his job at the newspaper, goes on leave or whatever to run the inn for the winter

because they have reservations all winter and shit and he's gotta finish it. And employees are all dead. Yeah, that's what I mean, they're dead. So Meek takes off. So he was up on the eastern seaboard, and apparently then he goes back to Florida to page, and their theory is, and this is a theory they have,

that he goes back and tells her about the murders and thinks she will be pleased that he's removed the tension between her parents and him, and in fact, she's extremely distraught about it. She didn tension between her parents and him and in fact she's extremely distraught about it. She didn't want her parents to be murdered. So you know, having a bit of a pain in my ass. Oh, that's fine.

I murdered them, tied them up, stabbed the fuck out of them and just went ahead and burned their cottage up. Let the whole thing on fire. They're fine now. Problem solved. So that same day Chris finds a Chris goes to his apartment and finds a there's a message from Chris to Paige in case she comes to the apartment so he writes out Paige I really need you love Chris because he's trying to tell her about the fucking murder that happened to the parents in case she comes to the house

but it's when it's found later on, there's a scrawl and another handwriting defacing the note. The U is crossed out. I really need you. And it's a huge no. It says over it scrawled and underlined many times, you know, like somebody would do inside the apartment, two sheets of Gainesville sun stationary in the same handwriting in the same handwriting that we'll talk about later on writes another message here. This note speaks of these New Hampshire murders.

It says, Friday 18 January 1985. This and the note telling Page to get the eggs, milk, flour, onions, cheese, etc. here did it. We are together now and forever is what he says. That's what he says. Telling Paige to take the eggs, milk, flour, onions, cheese, etc. did it, bucko. He calls him bucko, Chris. We are together now and forever and signs it Mike, which is one of his aliases. He also wrote, right will prevail as you wrote in your scheming letter to Page in Alaska about taking the bus or flying or riding down to Seattle or riding down to Texas,

then pretending to go home for a couple weeks. You bastard. He says Daniels is a dead man if he comes here. You wrote, you live with it all now buck Bucko. Mal, Betty and us, meddling fools. Paige is so bitter that this is the only way she can see how we can be together forever. Cremation. Call the police, they have some letters and information for you or whatever. That's the letter that he gets,

Chris has in his apartment. January 28th, 1985, Alachua County Sheriff's Office gets a phone call about a suspicious car in a field off State Road 236 and 93 in High Springs, outside of Gainesville. Nancy's love story could have been ripped right out of the pages of one of her own novels. She was a romance mystery writer who happens to be married to a chef. But this story didn't end with a happily ever after. When I stepped into the kitchen, I could see that Chef Brophy was on the ground and I heard somebody say, call 911.

As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries. So when suspicion turned to Dan's wife, Nancy, we weren't that surprised. The first person they look at would be the spouse. We understand that's usually the way they do it. But we began to wonder, had Nancy gotten so wrapped up in her own novels There are murders in all of the books that she was playing them out in real life? Follow Happily Never After, Dan and Nancy on the W the wonder yet or wherever you get your podcasts

You can binge all episodes of happily never after Dan and Nancy early and ad free right now by joining Wondery Plus Okay, there's a car here. It's a Fiat parked in a field They had looked they'd looked it over they saw it and looked it over a few days earlier, didn't see any like blood around there and somebody parked their car there so they left it. But now they send Sergeant Danny Brown out to take a look around and he finds the car and it's an abandoned blue Fiat parked in the middle of a field. He looked in the window, he could see that the keys were in the ignition. There's two, there's men's clothing and women's clothing here. Okay. So it's two sets like distinctive

sets of clothes, which is odd. So he sees that, um, he could see the keys were in the ignition and he said the clothes were neatly folded and stacked behind the seat. He also saw an envelope on the dashboard on the driver's side and it was addressed to the Gainesville Police Department Bureau of Homicide. Check the car, found the back door unlocked so he reached in. So he's touching it, befouling it with your fucking, ruining a crime scene at this point now. Good job. He grabs the envelope he opens the envelope and discovered a several pages long handwritten letter dated January 18th 1985 Scanned it quick. He said but it was quick enough to where he saw he saw something else

The letter said that near the car somewhere is a will you're gonna find a burned shack and inside that shack you're going to find the remains of two people. And he said, I am the person writing this letter is one of these people. You're going to find two people here. So about a hundred feet away he could see a clearing and they saw evidence of a fire that had burned out long ago. A lot of trees in the area were burnt nearly 40 feet up from the ground so it was a big fire at some point. He finds inside this structure, burnt out structure, two human skeletons. One larger, one smaller burned

so completely that they were reduced to mainly fragments and dust. What remained here was they said there was a like a metal wire structure like the remains of a cot or a bed type of deal here. And both the skulls were positioned on the same end like they were laying down next to each other. Below the metal was charcoal briquettes like you would make for a barbecue. Scattered around the bodies were two one gallon fuel cans. They were melted, they were there,

and then there was a melted but noticeable shotgun and a sprayer of some kind and another set of badly burned bones, possibly of a small animal, they couldn't tell. The remains of the young woman, they said it looked like a young woman and middle-aged man were found in the shack here. It was in the edge of a cornfield.

They said it almost looked like it had been some sort of crematorium. A lot of stacked items were used to create a very hot fire, including charcoal. More than 10,000 bone fragments are recovered from the cornfield. Oh, God. That's how it is. And there's a guy named Dr. William Maples, a forensic anthropologist. He's gotta try to put it together and figure out what belongs to who. Carb ass puzzle.

Yeah. This is like, my aunt once had a puzzle. It was like 10,000 pieces and it was all like bottle caps that all look the same. I was like, that's what this sounds like. It's a nightmare. So they find the car, the letter, mind you, in the car, they find, and it's dated Friday 1245, Hilton in Gainesville.

We have made all our arrangements and are now ready to do what Paige thinks and I is the only way we can be together for all time. The constant interfering with our lives by outsiders is over. We know that to go on like we have in the past would only eventually turn our love into hate for each other and cause us to eventually separate. That thought alone is what neither of us can bear to think about. The love that we had and always had since our eyes first met in Alaska has been so strong that in just 19 months we have both have proven it more than most people show in a lifetime. Problems we have had

surely, problems we have had surely but very few of our own, instead caused by meddling others. The pain Paige has gone through because of her family is what makes all we have done in the past week bearable to me. She was rejected by her family when she came back from Alaska because she loved someone her family didn't approve of. Instead of supporting her and saying we don't understand but are with you, they told her to get rid of me or get out. We went to Texas. Still the interfering from them and on her father's birthday, she was sent money to go

home but not to bring me We're not gonna pay for your 50 year old fucking boyfriend to come through he can buy his own ticket God they were under the impression that we had broken up and were not together So when she got off the plane her mother took her shop shopping in Maine on the way back to Jackson She told her mother we were still together her mother turned the car around and took all the presents back to the stores. When she, wow, that's fucking amazing. That's cool. When she finally got to Jackson, her father told her

to get out and never come back. Her brother told her to quote, get fucked in the ass, and never wanted to see or hear from her again. I doubt he said that. Chris sounds like a nice guy. I'm sure he said fuck you. Yeah, he said get fucked in the ass. She called me in Texas and told me what happened and was getting back to Portland and told me to pick her up in Houston. When she got

back home I spent almost four hours with her in my lap talking her through what she was put through. Then we went to Alaska again and worked in the worst possible place for a lonely girl with all these thoughts she never really told me about until last week. The letters from her brother helps to explain what I'm writing about. Pressure, rejection, pressure, castigation, pressure, and then what took place several weeks ago and more pressure. Her brother who was quote, helping her her got to pressuring her thoughts into telling

me to leave forever. She couldn't tell him to hurt, she couldn't tell him to hurt him or me to hurt me. She kept it all inside and it became too much for her. The final straw for Paige came when her brother said we had to get out by 5pm tomorrow or he would pull the plug. He left a note telling her to take the milk, half an onion, cheese, Bex beer, soup, etc. which said to Paige get everything that will remind me of you and get out of my life again. The onions. The onion. That's it, bucko. He called him bucko twice in a letter. All our letters to one another have been burned so no one can touch them. All our pictures likewise. She made me promise to burn the home in New Hampshire to make sure there were no mementos

left for anyone to have. He's saying that Paige told him to burn his land. It seems like she wanted to just disappear so as if to never have been on earth. In the past week we've talked over our plans that were brought up many times whenever she was depressed. At first, we would go together and make them pay, quote unquote. Then finally, it came down to me going while she waited for me to get back and we'd die together by cremation.

Why? Because I love her so very much is the only reason I can think of. More than my own life itself. Sometimes as I drove up and back I think she thought I would get up there, do what we wanted and get caught coming back all that time and distance. Only one road out and a fire would attract immediate attention so would be reported quickly. Just a feeling I guess from our meeting on Thursday at noon at her brother's house. She hasn't said much to me since, only that she is ready and was meditating the days I was gone.

Spiritually, she was ready. You are thinking this guy's crazy. Yes. Yeah. Wow. It's a lot of writing too. You are perceptive, aren't you? It's a seven page letter.

We're not reading all of it. It's called a manifesto. That's what it is. Ted Kaczynski had the same thing. This shit here. He said, no, I am not. I have functioned like a rational person in every way since we made our plans such as getting motels Eating driving selling things in Hartford buying the shotgun in the event. I got stopped on the way back

I would use it on myself and not hurt any other innocent people He said page page would jump from the bridge in Jacksonville with her car battery tied to her if we couldn't go together as we have planned. But yes, crazy from love and caring for this lady to want to be, to want to forever be with her at least mind, spirit and ashes. We are to go together so our ashes cannot be separated, only our bones can be put in two different places as her brother will do. Paige says if we died whole he would separate us by two graves and this way it's impossible for ashes. As I sit here contemplating what is ahead for me, appalling, but I have given my word

and that is and always has been my bond. Nobody can say about me once I say I will do something that I've ever not done it. Paige knows this and maybe used it. I'm not regretting what's been done because if we ever would have called it quits permanently, I would have taken all of their lives anyway. Either way, he's gonna kill everybody. But now I have to take Paige's life with my hands

and kill the only love I have left. Paige's life with my hands and kill the only love I have left. Paige said she needs it that way. Her meditation time directed her. She knows that I will do it and isn't worried that I'll wimp out on myself by not joining her. My word and she believes in me that much. Her brother won't be harmed so that he can live with everything for the rest of his life. A payback for rejecting her and writing that she was insane in his journal, in his own journal. Didn't tell the newspaper, didn't tell all her friends. He wrote in his private diary that she's insane. Personally, I would like to wait around and do him,

but she's made me promise not to give him the easy way out, but to think about it every day. and I've promised to go with her and so we shall. The place we picked out was found by driving around many miles and it was history on top of a hill and seemed to be just right for her, to her. We had two picnics there and that is where we made our plans and promises to one another. She's waiting now and I must do what I can't believe I'm going to do, but I must do it for me and her. Then, um, here a line is skipped in the note. The last two lines above beginning with she is waiting now are written in a more hurried and slantwise

script, they says, as if it's, he's in a rush. Then several blank lines follow and then he resumes, maybe I'm crazy. At least now I have taken the life of the only lady I feel I've ever really been in love with. What? And I don't want to die, but I will just to see if we can be together again, as Paige seems to think. It was the most terrible thing, but feel her love more than ever now, it seems.

Then the next five words are crossed out, but you can see it, obviously. It says, I took her in in my and then he starts again First I should tell That as we built our cremation it was the happiest i've ever seen her in many weeks She kept talking and had such an air about her afterwards We talked for about two hours and just enjoyed each other and hugged and repeated our wedding vows to one another And hope we are doing what's right for us.

When we were ready, I took her in my arms and said, Paige, I love you. The answer was, Mike, it has always been only you and I want it to always be that I am your very last love. She sat in front of me with me sitting behind her and I put a choke hold on and held it for at least two minutes. She never once seemed to struggle and when I thought she had expired, I released and lowered my arms to hug her.

Damn, she started to move and I couldn't do anything else but start rubbing her shoulders and talking to her. And in about 20 minutes, she was crying in my arms and hoarsely started talking to me and crying too. She said, Mike, you promised, you promised, but I just felt I couldn't anymore. We talked for a little while and then the very last word she said was,

Mike, I love only you forever. And this time I kept that hold on her until my arms, fingers, and body cramped. Laid her down on the blanket and she was still in turning blue. I readied the wood under the platform and she started to jerk a little. I looked at her with the flashlight and this time she wouldn't be coming back but I couldn't stand to see her twitch so I

hit her with a large stone. That's why her head may be crushed on her right side. I've decided to rope myself down before I use the shotgun in case I might do the same and fall from our platform because then he won't be burned as much That's the only reason why there may be rope marks on me if they don't burn off or something The little brown bag or ashes from her puppy that died in Texas last year. He didn't kill her She just she died that she just kept her dog's ashes with her The little that that's it We had it cremated in San Antonio and she wanted the ashes sprinkled with us and the

present puppy Chelsea are the bones with us. I brought her back with me from New Hampshire. Jesus Christ. It's time for me to go back up there and finish and be with my love for all times. Paige was the most beautiful lady in the world but at times a devil. I feel just because she had so many things working against her, pressure that finally made us do this last step. If I can spend the rest of my time with her somewhere is all that I can hope for.

I loved her. Goodbye. D. Mike Daniels. Four Paige Daniels. And then he said, I'm going to start the fire with 21 $100 bills for she was 21 1621 and 16 days. Okay. Now police pretty quickly figured out that the D Mike Daniels was actually glider all meek because that's one of his aliases and they know that but they don't think he's

dead. The cops think no they think it's page's body But they think he took looks like some fucking vagrant that was the same size as him killed him Shot him with a shotgun and put him in the fire. That's what he thought so he could escape free and clear Yeah, that's what they thought so they said that the mail they had they brought the letter to the FBI for psychoanalysis They said the mail has a narcissistic histrionic personality obviously illusions of grandeur and great self-importance and very self-centered with very unrealistic goals and In love with himself. He has a fantasy of ideal love shows increased confusion as the letter progresses and may have major depression in the past

They said the the female has a passive aggressive personality, meaning Paige, lacks self-confidence and is dependent on others and has separation anxiety. She wants to get back with her family. I think this is a fake suicide note, is what the psychologist said. So the graphologist, the writing person, agreed. They said the male is a person able to lie and deceive, So, the graphologist, the writing person, agreed. They said, the male, as a person able to lie and deceive, is threatened by his insecurities,

tends to put things off. His ego comes through like a club. He is a clever demeanor. He is bluffing in the last page about the fire. It's possible, but not likely, that this is not a real suicide note. That this is a real suicide note. That this is a real suicide note. Now, the problem is the female tibia. Paige Jennings had injured her knee at age seven, at age 17 throwing a javelin in high school, underwent surgery to repair it.

The surgeon didn't have the x-rays anymore, but the surgeon assured the doctors that she made two incisions in the surface of the tibia and attached the tendon through them. It's the Hauser procedure and it leaves definite and characteristic marks. The bone is cut through two small parallel rectangles and these rectangles remain visible even after they're healed over for the rest of the life of the person. So they had a New Hampshire surgeon sketch the rectangles in pencil on a sample tibia that they took up, and they drew two rectangles on the whole deal. Seeing them, the guy said he was perplexed because he knew very well that on the burned

and painstakingly reconstructed portion of the female tibia that was lying there, there was no trace of any surgical scars. They carefully reassembled the five-inch portion portion of Tibia from 36 separate fragments of bone, x-rayed it and poured over it. They said the scar should have been there if they belonged to her. Other clues, speculation about the bodies here. They said one might be Paige, but they found two teeth, one of Paige's and one is the outer gold inlay of Meek's tooth.

And the one guy says the gold tooth is the most characteristic tooth in Glide Earl Meek's mouth. The tooth found next to the female body is the most characteristic tooth of Paige Jennings. I suggest to you that this is salting the scene. They took their own teeth. Yeah. Yep. Then, this is even more fucked up. They took their own teeth. Somebody just threw those out. Yeah. Yup. Then, this is even more fucked up, three weeks after the murders, this is right about a week,

not even a week after the burned up house in Florida is found, under the backseat of a stolen car in Arizona they find another one of Meek's teeth. What? Yeah. Really fucking weird. So the theories are that he used the bodies of two vagrants to set up the murder-suicide after he killed Page somewhere else possibly.

So New Hampshire won't close the case. They'll say they believe that Page is dead, because they find other things that they believe are Page, bone things. But they said that they don't think it's it's that glide is there a sheriff in Florida said quote it's a definite who done it more and I'm gonna use this accent because when I tell you what he said I guarantee you he had this accent it's a definite who done it more than anything and might very well forever

and ever amen remain a who done it Exactly. He sung a country song in the middle of that. So I had to give him that. He invoked Randy Travis. By the name of Randy Travis and all that he stands for. It's a whodunit forever and ever amen. That's fucking amazing. My favorite country singer's name ain't Randy Travis. So they put Meek on the FBI's most wanted list. They said the skeletons were bogus, Glide was still alive, Paige Jennings couldn't be. It's all in the newspaper. Bogus this, most wanted them. mean, it's crazy. 1987 though, they conclude that the one body is Pages. A Florida scientist, anthropologist guy, a forensic anthropologist. They're positive it's her.

They're positive. They find several different things that make it positive, viewing bone fragments and size and this and that. The male, according to the examiner's office, died of a shotgun wound to the head, the female, homicide violence of an undetermined type, because you wouldn't be able to see what he did. The scientist said it took a long time because we're very cautious, but we're ready to make a remarkably complete construction of the remains and identify them as being pages and we think Meeks. So, but the one guy said Meek was extremely street wise,

so investigators finding the matchbox tooth in the car, they said, oh, maybe that's not it. They thought maybe he was saving one of his own teeth so that he could fake his suicide at one point and put his teeth down. There's some use it for some other kind of identification scam, so that's interesting. However, up north though in New Hampshire,

they said, nope, said sorry, he's not dead. They said he was known to mail packages to friends in Arizona, so might've been that. New Hampshire, the attorney general said they don't doubt that Page is dead and they don't doubt that Meek killed Page's parents, but they're not sure about Meek or Paige in New Hampshire. So Florida said the guy in Florida said if they meeting the New Hampshire authorities

have come up with any evidence that conflicts with ours, they certainly haven't shared it. So we don't know. They said they the Florida case they closed it based on evidence reported by Dr. William Maples Billy Maples. They said he identified a tooth among the charred remains as belonging to Meek, one belonging to Page. We did some bone comparisons. It's them. What do you want? Okay.

So then finally in 1988, they have some new high resolution video technique to confirm the identification of the suspects. And finally, in New Hampshire, they said the attorney general would like to receive a presentation himself and we would hope we'd be able to identify them and close the books. And they finally close the book on Meek and declare him dead and declare Page as well. I could tell you the science, but it would take forever to tell you what they found. But basically, it's a video superimposition, two video cameras that blend two images on a single screen.

So what anybody can do on their phone in three seconds, this was new technology. They said with this, they could superimpose an X-ray of the reconstructed skeletal pieces over a medical X-ray of the bone taken of the person who was still alive. They had the chiropractors X-rays from Arizona and that's what they found and that's what they matched up perfectly to. Really? Every detail matched. He did barbecue himself? He shot himself with a shotgun and barbecued himself. What the fuck? Maples the scientist said quote, in the words of the game, he ate his gun. He shot himself Okay So Chris went on to sell Dana place the next year to new people the new owners of Dana place said quote

It happened and you can't hide it. They said guests still ask about it and the townspeople It's still a perplexing thing and they don't know Paige and her parents here look like they are buried in the Keir Sarge Cemetery in North Conway, New Hampshire at this point. And we don't know where Glenn is. They probably just, oh, Glenn's, that's right. Maple said he kept him on the shelf. And they said, if New Hampshire ever wants to come down here

and arrest him, I can grab him off the shelf, and they're more than welcome to him. That's literally what he fucking said. So there you go everybody. That is Jackson, New Hampshire. Very quickly, 500th episode is coming up soon. Hit us up, hit me up on Instagram. I will certainly look at all the suggestions.

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