Small Town Murder - #526 - Deadly, Disturbed & Lazy - Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

This week, in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada, it's a little bigger town than usual, but that's because the story is so crazy, it had to talked about. When plumbers try to clear a blocked drain, they end up extracting what ends up being human flesh. This leads to finding more horrors in a bedroom freezer. It turns out that more than one young lady met this same fate. The killer is an arrogant, terrible person, who may have killed many more!!Along the way, we find out that Canada has its own "Motor City", that where there's two bodies, there may be many more, and that if you have human meat in your plumbing, being a "procrastinator" isn't your biggest problem!!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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So that said, I think it's time everybody. Let's do this to clear the lungs, center ourselves, arms to the sky. Let's all shout. Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this everybody. Alright. Let's go on a trip, shall we? We are going to Canada this week.

Couple of rambling men across the border. Going across the border. We haven't been there in a while so this will be fun here. We're going to Oshawa, Ontario, Canada. O-S-H-A-W-A. Now, if you're Canadian and local, you're gonna go, that's not a small town, there's a lot of people there. True, it's bigger than the towns that we would normally do.

But this has a distinctively small town feel to the murder and all the stuff that goes on around it. It does not, it doesn't feel like a big city thing at all Feels very small town murder and you'll understand why because the case Oshawa the case is crazy Oh, oh, yeah, I think it's like like Ottawa like Oshawa Like that 45 minutes or so to Toronto depending on time of day and traffic 33 hours to Airdrie, Alberta, which

was our last Canada case, which was over a year ago. It's a long time ago. Episode 440. So that tells you a lot. We're at 526 right now. So long time ago, a character of evil. Yeah, that was the bus ride guy. That was fucking bonkers population of this town. Like I said, well above what we normally do and we'll never do one more than this a hundred eighty five thousand six eleven here. Sweet Jesus. Yeah it's a big it's a big place but when you hear the murder you'll go I get it I get

it I get it. So median household income here is about a hundred thousand seven hundred dollars Canadian so that's like what thirty six thousand American maybe? I don't know. I don't know. $14. Median home cost here $802,843 again Canadian. Nickname for this town is Canada's Motor City. This is the Detroit of Canada. This is where they make their GM cars. GM plants are here so So that's why a little bit of history here. Okay, 1836 Edward Skay SK ae He wrote relocated his general store here and it became a big popular meeting place because it had

Kind of a makeshift post office inside So in 1842, he's the postmaster Skay. He applied for official post office status But was told that in America when they do it It'll be like you can't have that name because there's another name state city in your state with that name here They just told him that's not a good name It can't be Skay that's not gonna work you gotta, cuz it was no sounds way too close to it's gay It's gay. Yeah, it's skays corners is what it's called Okay, so they were like nope can't have that that that sucks need a better name. They're like okay

So their reply was Oshawa is what they came up with which to, where we must leave our canoes. So I guess that would be like a- They can do that in five letters, huh? Five letters, I guess. Six letters, I guess. Six letters, I guess. I guess, because it would be, it's on the shores of the lake,

so I guess that would make sense there. The name Oshawa was one of the primary motor cities of Canada there, and it was adopted as the post office name immediately. In 1849, it was incorporated as a village. In 1846, there was about a thousand people here. It was mainly farmland. They had a couple of churches, a post office and shit like that. A fulling mill. I don't know what a fulling mill is, but they had it there. That's how they fill it.

They all filled up. All full up. A brewery, a couple distilleries, a machine shop, that kind of shit. But GM factories are where the main jobs have been, obviously, since there was cars and that sort of thing. Now reviews of this town, Canada doesn't have the sites that have the reviews of towns like we do here, but I did find some people on Reddit giving their opinions.

So this is a review, there's no stars, but you'll understand the stars when you hear it. We'll gather them. That sounds like one star, I believe. Here is one guy here. The only downside of living in Oshawa is having to deal with all the people who buy into the idea of quote, the dirty schwa.

The dirty schwa, I don't know what that's about. Says yes, the urban sprawl north of the city is running into problems with Toronto gangs moving in. That's just me. In this country we just laugh when we hear Canadian gangs because we're like, come on guys. Toronto Crips? It's like when I end, this is gonna connect.

Remember I told you I was watching that Hells Angels documentary? It was all Canadian shit and I'm like, I'm just not afraid of a man with a French accent, I'm just not. That actually has something to do with our show today, which is the weirdest thing that those two things crossed here. It says, but don't believe the hype.

It's a nice place, has bike paths, parks aplenty. It's just like any town in Ontario with its issues and benefits. I've lived here over a decade, it's the hometown of my children. The biggest problem you'll likely find here is the jackass setting off fireworks at 2am on a Wednesday." Yeah, but that's true. So that's what I mean. Sounds like a small townish compared to Toronto. And then somebody replied to that saying, do you live in North

Oshawa? I do and it's garbage. So they're arguing with the person. Sure, the part- It's a firework shooter. Yeah, it's two in the morning, so what? Who gives a shit? Go back to sleep, pussy. This place sucks. Jesus. Sure the park is nice, but the people in the area don't care about the area in general. Garbage is everywhere, noise from both inconsiderate neighbors and what I assume

are quote, gangsters, literally tearing up our street in front of the park where my kids and a load of other kids play. I don't know why I've never heard of a gang being like let's fuck up the street and just like tearing up the there's no money in that. I've never heard of gangsters like, uh, you guys want to go do burnouts by the park? A? And then follow that with an A? No, a few years back there was a literal spike strip on my street and probably 14 cruisers in the neighborhood because who knows that? Not to mention the three or four shootings in the wind field area. Oshawa is not good pro. It has amenities. That's it Okay, so people disagree on us. We'll just say things to do here the annual peony festival peony festival

Oh, I think the only peonies, they're flowers. Flowers, yeah, they're flowers. It's hosting the annual festival here at the Botanical Gardens. It celebrates horticulture, arts, and heritage. In other words, me and you would be bored shitless here. They smell nice though. Yeah, this smells great.

Is there a place to sneak off and drink from a flask? Because I'm bored. Can we make it stink around here? Many of the more than 300 peony plants will be in glorious bloom in the gardens and the same number of cut blooms will be on display during the Ontario peony society's judged flower show. Oh, a lot of pressure going on there. You're gonna smell like flower. All right.

It's going to be flowery. There's handcrafted item items market and artisan zone Activities for children live music performances that are so good. You don't tell us any of the bands Those are always the best the best bands are show up naked ladies are headlining I'm sure the best bands show up best band show up unannounced to random flower festivals That's where you get the hot bands right there. So you get everybody that's in the top 10 charts.

Shit. Art and photography contests, and there's a tour of a 12-acre historical garden and a mansion as well. And if that's not enough for you, you can visit Lightning McQueen at the Canadian Automotive Museum. What? The real Lightning McQueen's gonna Canadian Automotive Museum. What?

The real Lightning McQueen's going to be there, everybody. You mean Owen Wilson? He's there. Just wearing like a fucking car costume. It's exciting to have a full scale model of Lightning McQueen from the iconic main character from Pixar's Cars animated film franchise. I can't believe they have to qualify that.

I think we know here. Lightning McQueen is part athlete, part stock car. Kachow. Okay. McQueen is voiced in the films by actor Owen Wilson and was named after late Pixar animator Glenn McQueen who passed away in 2002. Okay McQueen's shape was influenced by sports cars like the Corvette C6, Ford GT40, as well as sports stars Muhammad Ali, Charles Barkley, and Joe Namath. Hold on. Yes, I was just going to say. Okay.

What? I don't understand. I don't get that part at all. I never got any of that out of Lightning McQueen. The car looks like Muhammad Ali. And Charles Barkley and Joe Namath. Joe Namath. Joe Namath who had his own bar that was like a hot gambling spot.

Charles Barkley who gets blow jobs from prostitutes with Urkel in the car. That's the part of the car that reminds me of that. In the back evidently of Lightning McQueen there's a large black man getting blown by a prostitute. Pretty awesome right? Not bad. And then it's red like a prostitute. Pretty awesome, right? Not bad. And then it's red like a boxing glove.

I'll bet that's where it comes there. He talks shit like Ali. He gets blowjobs like Barkley. Got a giant nose. And he lives on the edge like Joe Namath. There we go. But he's also wearing tights. Oh, he also wears fucking nylons.

So you can come look at that. So that said, let's talk about some murder here because holy shit is this a wild story. And Canadians from this area will probably remember this story because it's not one that you're going to forget anytime soon. Okay, let's start out on September 11th, 2017. Okay, now a local fisherman. It's a guy fishing with his grandson They spot something floating in the city harbor that they find questionable at best And it's not trash and it is a severely disfigured and decomposed human torso Just a torso no arms. No legs. No head just a center mass number 11

So yeah, I don't think that means anything in Canada. No. But they still gotta remember, right? Why? Everybody has to remember. I don't remember shit that ever happened up there, so probably not. Up there though, it's like never forget when the Leafs won the Cup, you know what I mean? It's a different Different forget so that's a problem. That's not what they're fishing for anyway No, no disfigured torsos, so they're taken to the forensic medical examiner for identification and examination But they face difficulties in identifying the body due to the fact that it has no arms legs or head There's no fingerprints. You can't tell what they look like Yeah, so it's pretty self. It's a gal or a man or a fellow we can tell it's a it's a woman. You can't tell what they look like. Yeah. So it's pretty... You can tell if it's a gal or a fellow.

We can tell it's a woman. That's all we know. It's a smaller young lady. That's all we can tell. But it's... Other than that, there's nothing really identifiable. And unless they have the person's DNA on file, it won't help for that either. So that's not great. They can't do that. So they do have a fragment of a tattoo on the neck that was visible, but it was impossible to determine what it was a tattoo of.

It was just the bottom. Oh, it's just a little piece. Like they cut off at the bottom of the tattoo. So you just see little ink marks coming down, but you don't know what it's a part of. So they actually do police work and do some analysis of missing persons that are on file and look for it that way, and they actually match up DNA and figure out who this young lady is.

Okay. Find out who this torso belongs to. This is good police work here, and it helps that it's 2017 when this is going on, obviously. In 1985, they would have been like, I don't know, put her in the freezer and, fuck, I don't know, man. Hope, hope. See if we can find the rest of that tattoo. Hope her fingers wash up on shore,

cause we could use that, nothing else though. So it belonged to an 18 year old young lady, unfortunately. I should have been a high school senior. A woman, a young lady named Rory with an I at the end, Hache is how you pronounce it from what I've found, H-A-C-H-E, Hache. She's 18 years old, she's born in 1999 and she was last seen in downtown Oshawa on August 27th, 2017. 7th 2017. So it's not too far. It's only two weeks out. A little bit about her. She was like basically she did like in junior high school, middle school. She did like basically Canadian ROTC. I don't know what they call it up there, but it's like a cadet thing, you know, same type of

thing. And she won cadet of the year twice in seventh and eighth grade. So of the Royal Mounties. I don't know what the fuck it was a military uniform it wasn't like a police thing so I'm not sure but then she hit high school and like a lot of well not great for her and like a lot of us when we hit high school there's a lot the world's more open to you at that point. Sure. You older kids you start meeting and you, that sort of thing. So a lot of times we try new things as we're freshmen in high school. Maybe it's a new music, a new group of friends, you know, try a little drink of some schnapps or some shit, something like that.

From time to time, yeah. She tried meth, though. Really? In her freshman year. Yeah, that's not great. Oh, boy. It seems like from the first time she tried meth, her teenage years kind of went a little squirrely She likes it. She liked it a lot. That's that's another thing now

Her family is interesting also to begin with here her grandfather was Bernie Gwyn Don he is one of the founders of the Satan's Choice Motorcycle Club And if you watch that documentary that I was watching, they were talking a lot about Satan's Choice, and I believe they even talked about him on this documentary. Satan's Choice, who I'm 99% sure they were the ones who then kind of patched in as Hell's Angels later on, or were affiliated with Hell's Angels. Broke off of them? Maybe not. No maybe not no no no Hells Angels

And they were all they were in competition in the 70s With the other motorcycle clubs in the country to be the biggest one and the baddest one and sell the most math and do All that shit so the Canadian bikers were a big deal because they had a huge meth Operation up there and an easy way to get it into the country So that's, they became, whoever got kind of hooked up with these Canadians would have a lot more money and that sort of thing. So I'm pretty sure it was Satan's choice

that ended up being the affiliate of the Hell's Angels or a partner with them or whatever, however you want to put it. Just by name alone, they certainly fall into the fold pretty easy. Hell and Satan go together. Yeah, it feels like it. It feels like it should be. So this guy he served 22 years in prison overall if

you add up all of his stints for drugs and assaults and you know he's a fucking Canadian biker criminal, the grandfather. He has somewhere between 11 and 16 kids we're unsure exactly. Sick. One of his kids is Rory's uncle, who she's very close to. She's close to her uncle and his uncle, her uncle's wife. So I'd be her, his aunt by marriage here. His name is Harley Davidson Gwendoin. Of course it is. Be a little creative. Be a little creative. You know what I mean? Be a little creative with. Be a little creative. I'll tell you that much.

Be a little creative. You know what I mean? Be a little creative with it. He's in Hells Angels guy who has a tattoo. He has a huge tattoo on his back of his prison fights record. His record, he said he's 41 and 0 in prison fights and it's on his back. I guess you got to do that with notches, right? Because you can't write 40.

He did it. It says 41 and 0. I think he did it after he got out of prison. But he's going to have to, if he goes back, he's going to have to add something to it, another panel. I'm not sure. Yeah, in my first visit and then second visit. Yeah, Jesus.

So Rory, the reason I mention Harley-Davidson Gwendolyn here is that Rory lived with her uncle for a while when she was 17. Rory has some issues. Sometimes she runs away Stays away for a while and comes back. She's a young kid with a drug problem from time to time Yeah, and then she'll like try to get better She goes to this youth center to try to you know, kick her habit and stuff like that And has what she feels like is a rock bottom. Yeah, she's like no that was that wasn't it But she's trying though. She tries definitely

She like I said her family was kind of troubled. She ran away a lot but disappear for a month at a time But everybody says about six months before she disappeared. She was doing better. She had a steady boyfriend. She had an apartment She found a job. She was planning on going back to school She had an apartment. She found a job. She was planning on going back to school. Oh. And yeah, her aunt Michelle, who I believe is Harley-Davidson's wife there, she said that she had taken Rory to the dollar store to buy a pregnancy test sometime around in

the summertime. Oh. And found out that she was pregnant. Maybe we get one from a little more reliable. Fuck. The dollar store. Yeah, let's head to the CVS maybe. Let's spring here.

Let's spring. Let's pay the $17.99 for the good one. Jesus. So they assume she was about three months pregnant when she disappeared. That's the assumption here. In August of 2017, about two and a half weeks before she disappeared, there was a fire at her mother's house. A real bad fire that injured her mother and killed her mother's dog.

Holy shit. Yeah, so they're not sure if she relapsed a little bit after that, because everybody says she was doing well at this point, but anybody who does meth sometimes, that shit, one day, you could be doing great for five years and one day it could all go off the rails and that's what happens. And when you're a meth addict, well is certainly relative.

That's the other thing. Yeah, not doing meth as well. You're doing great. Yeah, that just seems lucid today. I don't see any open scabs that she's been picking at. So great. So a meth head's well is relative toward, it's like somebody with dementia. Yeah.

Are they talking to you? That's great. That's great. They remembered their children. Good. That's excellent. Wonderful. Yeah, good.

So you're not doing meth? Great. That's good. So August 27th, the day she was last seen, a friend of hers and her friend's mom take her to the hospital for unknown reasons There are rumors that it was about some kind of mental episode She was having and I don't know if that's a drug episode or just a mental breakdown or what but they're seen on Security footage walking in together the three of them and you can see Rory sitting there fidgeting a lot She's real fidgety which makes me think maybe it's a drug thing that she's going there for,

for some kind of something. Then the footage shows her friend and friend's mom leave the hospital and leave her in the waiting room. Like, they're like, yeah, I guess she told them I'll be fine and they took off and left and go toward the parking garage and leave the hospital. And then you see Rory sits in the waiting room for about another 15 minutes fidgeting, and then she just leaves the hospital on her own too. So I don't know where she went,

I don't know how she got a ride, because they were her ride. So I'm not sure exactly what happened there, but she left the hospital, she was never seen that night at the hospital. Now she had been showing up at a youth center called The Refuge, and then she stopped showing up So some of the some of the people at the refuge called her family to say hey have you seen Rory cuz she hasn't shown

Up and we're worried about her and whatever and the family said we didn't fucking we haven't seen her either But the fact that she would for the last few years disappear from time to time for a while her family doesn't report her Missing for almost a month because this isn't abnormal. Exactly. And she's 18. Also she's not a child. So it's not, you know, they said she often would, would do some prostitution things for drug money and things like that when she would disappear and end up out on the street So that's September 11th and then the next month on after that when all that happens

So it's horrifying and we haven't even got to the horrifying part now December 29th 2017 Okay, there's a two-family home. It's an upstairs downstairs How yeah, that's rented. It's at 19 McMillan Drive in Oshawa. And the new people that moved in upstairs, they've been there a couple weeks, and they notice a really shitty bad smell.

Really bad. Real bad stuff here. So they ask their downstairs neighbor if he's having any problems, because they feel like it's coming from the plumbing. Something in the plumbing so maybe something's clogged an animal get in there who knows so their downstairs neighbor's name is Adam Strong just like it sounds he's 45 years old he tells them yeah it's a minor plumbing issue that we've been having the house happens from time to time here

he said I know how to fix it. He said, the next few days I'll take care of it. I'll fix it because that's annoying me too. So then a few days later, the neighbors, that nobody, nothing happens. It doesn't stop. It doesn't stop. So then on December 29th is when the neighbors call a plumber because the sewer is backing up into their apartment.

So it's time to get a plumber at that point. Now the plumber could not find an obstruction in their pipes though up there. So couldn't find anything. So I don't understand it. So they said, maybe it's downstairs. I'll go check the guy downstairs and check that out. So he went downstairs to Adam Strong's apartment and said, you know, can I come in and check it out?

Can I snake this? Yeah. And the guy said, yeah, come on in his house, by by the way, Adam, inside, it's a fucking mess. It's disgusting in there. Oh, surprise. Absolutely hideous in there. There's fucking food everywhere and rappers. And it looks like, it almost looks like Turd Boy's house.

Oh, no. Not to that level, but give him another couple years. He'll be Turd Boy. So the plumber then said that Adam seemed nervous but you know didn't block, did not allow him to come in or whatever. So when they get in there and they are snaking these drains, what they find is a shitload of meat in the pipes. Oh. Flesh of some kind. Meat. Bone fragments. Things like that. that. They're finding. So the plumber here, he was horrified and then he found what he thought was decomposed human fingers in

there. Okay. Whole fingers. Pieces of human fingers decomposed. So the plumbers put everything into a plastic shopping bag that they could find just in like a grocery bag Well, we'll throw this right out. They said they also found a fleshy like substance. Maybe 13 to 14 inches long as Well all of us so the plumber calls 9-1-1 because he thinks it's something weird and he says quote I'm a plumber and I'm on site for a job and we got We're snaking a drain and we got, uh, we're snaking a drain and we were, we probably pulled back about 10, 10, 15 pounds of it looks like flesh type of stuff.

Meat. 10, 15 pounds. Pounds. Pounds. That's so much. So think about what a pound of meat looks like. That's so much. 15 pounds of that.

And the guy said, and we don't know what it is and He said that so they call the police and the first officer said I've never seen anything like it before So I wasn't sure what it was either. So I just just showed me a bag of meat. I was like, oh gross. I mean Nasty, yeah, what do you why you still have that disgusting cook it or freeze it or throw it out? Those are choices. That's it have that disgusting. Cook it or freeze it or throw it out. Those are your choices. That's it. So they go, they're gonna go talk to Adam Strong, the guys up whose apartment they pulled this out of to find out what the deal is. Now Adam was 45 years old. He's born in 72. He's from Cornwall, Ontario and at this point he's single, no children and he works as a gas station attendant. I mean, he was killing it.

Until that. Profession, in his 40s, yeah. He also does some security for movie sets when that pops up too. Oh, fun. He's very much like, wants to be like in that world, but nobody likes him, so. He lived at this house for over 10 years.

He moved in in early 2007. No neighbor has ever complained about him or anything. He's never had any, he's not lighting off fireworks at two in the morning or any shit like that. You can go along to get along. Now he definitely on social media, he would complain a lot that it was really difficult for a sexual freak like him to meet women. For a powerhouse, you know what I mean

It's always fascinating with guys like that. I can't believe I'm single. I just fuck too good box on her I just fuck too good. Yeah, yeah I'd eat the shit out of that ass. I don't get white chicks don't like me Yeah, it's your deal man He's called her ass her shit box. I hope her turd cutter tastes as good as it looks is not something that ladies generally like to hear. They're not marrying you. That's probably not. They might fuck you for a night, but they're not going to marry that guy. Enjoy that because she's a nightmare. Yes. At a time when we're debating where policing is going, we're going to tell you where the police came from.

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And call it a turd cutter. Turd cutter. Like, yeah, my turd cutter, I've been working on my turd cutter, so I'm glad he likes it. So four police officers come in, knock on the door, and Adam Strong opens the door. And the one cop says,

what have you been flushing down the toilet because we got a bunch of meat in a bag. What's up with that? So that's just a basic question. He could have said I had bad meat, I didn't want it to stink. Million things he could have said. He said instead, he chose to say, quote,

okay, you got me, the gig's up, it's a body. What? So they didn't know One question they didn't know if he was kidding though because the way he said it and the way if you watch this guy's interrogations Nothing, he says matches the tone of voice. He fucking says it in it's wild. He is Wildly upbeat for the weird shit that he says and does so they didn't know if he was kidding or not So then he followed it up with quote if you want to recover the rest of her It's in my freezer. That's what he said

So they're like for real So you mind if we search and he's like come on in go ahead Okay, yeah So the cops come in and they find the rest of Rory hashae's body in a freezer in his bedroom It's one of the bedroom Yeah, like chest freezer one of those really he keeps it in his fucking bedroom Inside the freezer they found there's blood spattered all over at number one various severed body parts including her head Yeah found the head that doesn't that doesn't flush nope and on the neck is the other part of that tattoo

That they were wondering about and it says alive on it unfortunately Never have there been more irony than that so that is what that's fucking ridiculous So choice to yeah, they don't know what he did, but they know he's got a chopped up teenager in his fucking freezer, literally. He's got body parts, chopped up teenager parts in his chest freezer. So that's a stereotype. We're going to go ahead and arrest this guy. They were amazed that he just told them, yeah, the rest of us in the freezer, go check it

out. What are we talking about here? So it was the bag was packed in a plastic, the head was packed in a plastic bag And then there was limb fragments and other bags around there They said the house was a dump. It was filthy dishes and Rotting food everywhere trash all over the place Among everything they do find many many adult magazines, of course Sure masochistic shit. He's into obviously. Oh, yeah as well as tons of sex toys I don't think it's a hundred and seven dildos like the one but lots of sex too and I saw some of them

He's got like he's real into like the anal beads type of thing those real long beaded things Yeah, he likes that. Yeah, gags. He's like him or is he putting a me? We're not sure who what he's it where he puts he just has him He's also into gags and whips and all sorts of binding devices and one in particular That's a binding device that hangs a person over the bed Like dangles them. So it's like a harness swing. It's not a swing. No, no, no, no like like a BDSM hardcore thing Like where you're yeah so At the while the cops are finding all

this he's just talking to him real casual just real casual my that's my bondage yeah well you know that's the head of this chick I know you know everything he said he told the cops yeah I've been I thought about killing myself but then I was like yeah what am I gonna do with that stupid so he just tries to make friends with the cops He's outside talking about serial killers that they you know, what about that guy? He was crazy, right? Like shit like that He talks about his hobbies you guys fish ever like you ever go bowling past girlfriends He's literally talking about this one girl. What a pain in the ass She what they found a head in your freezer just shut the fuck up and sit there and the rest of her they found well

That somebody was fishing. I don't talk about fishing with you. Yeah, he also says he doesn't associate with drug addicts, he's saying. He's trying to, he's really telling them just all who he is, like giving a first date rundown to these guys who don't give a fuck. They also find an explosive device in his house, a bomb of some kind. so they have to get the explosive disposal unit to come in and detonate the homemade bomb that he made. I don't know if that was in case they came. He was gonna go out in a blaze of glory but just didn't expect it to be about plumbing. So in the back of the police car, he told the arresting officer that he knew they were pulling up Rory's body parts and that he would quote be caught.

He knew it because I knew you guys would catch me there. They also find from his phone data that his phone was at the harbor a week before the body was found, September 4th. His phone was at he was at the harbor September 4th. And there and the amount of decomposition and everything and it looks like it would be in the water for about a week, yeah. So they sit him down for his first interrogation.

They show him a photo of Rory and he says, Adam says, oh she's a beautiful young woman. Golly. The balls on this guy. He was like, oh look at that. Pretty girl, you guys gonna set me up with her? What are we doing here? Oh? Boy, so he said they said look we know you know her and he goes yeah, I know her he admits it

He's I know her he said I met her down by the creek in Oshawa She was a homeless girl Which a lot of times that's what she would do she would hang out in these kind of groups of kind of homeless teenagers and Do drugs and turn tricks, I guess is what allegedly she did. He said he bought her dinner and brought her home with him. Okay, yeah. He said that he knew her and knew that she was involved in the sex trade and yeah, that might have had something to do with it, but he insisted that if there's a security camera outside my house, which

there isn't, but if there was, if there was, you'd see video of her coming into his home and you would see video of her leaving his home and he said, that's the honest to God truth. What? Honest to God truth. What are you saying? Her head's in your freezer. What the fuck are you talking about? Her head's in your freezer.

Literally. Her whole fucking head. Not a piece of it, not an eyeball, not a finger. Whole head. Tattoo and everything. They're like, what's your deal, man? Why do you have body parts? And he said, I had a bad childhood. Which, join the club, asshole. My freezers are clean, babe.

Clean. I got nothing but fucking animal meat in there, so. Have you heard about her grandfather, man? Yeah, no shit. He said, they are my actions, but I don't think I would have made those actions had I been nurtured. He just didn't be.

He wasn't hugged enough was his problem. So he has to have heads in his freezer. I need forehead kisses, or else I chop people up. Or else I have teenagers' body parts in my chest freezer. You know that guy. Wow. He said, I don't know, it was a really bad childhood. Then they said, well, you just really went,

you said, yeah, she was in the sex trade, she's a pretty girl. Then you went on to your childhood. They said, do you have any empathy for this dead young woman in the photo? And he said, quote, I don't know, I'm kind of over it. Oh. Oh my god.

All right. Then he said, how much of her body did you guys get back? He said, obviously the entire skeletal structure, right? Because he has no way of disposing of bones. And the cop said, yeah, whatever was in the house. Whatever you had, he pretty much said. We took. Did you guys grab a Coke or a Pepsi out of the fridge?

Whatever you had. That's what he said basically. Is that a Sprite or a Pepsi? We got your whole inventory, man. Whatever you had in stock is what it was really. He said, then Strong says, in the freezer and how much of it were you able to pull out of the pipes? And the cop said quite a bit.

It was bad luck luck I guess like for you and that's then he jumps in with like now we're connecting Adams like he says yeah that's what I've been telling people meaning the other cops that he's been talking to that it was just bad luck he said you're right yeah he's like they're like you're stupid and I'm like you kidding me that's an awesome way to get rid of a body Obviously not if it didn't fucking work an awesome way to get rid of a body meanwhile You're in a police interrogation room because they found a body in your plumbing talking about how great of a way it is to get Rid of a body they're gonna flush you down the prison

So much trouble you're in a lot of trouble. And he's- You don't know what you did. He's like, that's an awesome way. It's totally great. Oh my God. So he's drawn into a discussion about his attempt to dispose of the remains. They're like, yeah, but why you threw one in the harbor, why'd you choose to leave this

stuff here? And he said, well, I wouldn't carry the whole body down to the lake. That would be crazy. Right, that looks weird. Oh, a torso on the other hand, that's normal. He wore that like a backpack. He described trying to stuff some of the human flesh down the toilet, although it kept overflowing.

So, remember, I think it was Raymond Mata in Oklahoma talking about that, he was flushing a child down the toilet. This is Bad ideas people not realize that that little s in the porcelain. That's what you've got to get things through You gotta get it through that. Yeah, if you want to if you want to flush flush down the toilet You better form it into turds basically and send it down that you can't just say a pile of it down there Yeah, that's not gonna work He said quote all this water came up. I heard kerplunk I'm picking it up with my hands as fast as I can meaning the meat fell out. Yeah Oh, he said dumping it into a pail that he took outside

And he said however much you found in the bucket is what came up Because there was a bucket outside that they now they know to look for and he said this at the this is what came up. Because there's a bucket outside that they, now they know to look for. And he said this, this is fucking amazing, quote, fooled by inadequate plumbing and that's a fucking shame. Inadequate, it's the plumbing's fault. It's not made to take human bodies down it, is it? Idiot. Everybody look at your fucking toilet's user manual.

Does it say, when flushing a corpse, do this? No, it doesn't at all so wow could be as sick as he wants but you're still in so much trouble man so much fucking fuck justice her family's danger that's the other thing her uncle's name is Harley Davidson and he has his prison fight record tattooed on his back are you Are you joking? I'm scared for you man. You're in a lot of trouble. So they do some more searching and they find out that Rory's blood was all over Adam's bedroom walls, ceiling, his semen was found on her body. They also collected

a large hunting knife specifically designed for gutting and skinning animals and we'll talk about that, the knife. It's a Wyoming knife they call it. It's got like two little handles for your fingers and it opens up and it was discovered that during this knife, during the search they found in a drawer, they found this knife. On this knife they find traces of blood. They do some DNA on this. It's not Rory's blood. It belongs to another young lady. A young lady named Candace Fitzpatrick who disappeared in 2008. I've never been more

afraid for a serial killer. This is fucking insane. They also find her DNA in blood in his freezer as well. Oh Jesus. So this is Candice K-A-N-D-I-S Fitzpatrick. She was 19 when she disappeared in 2008. He's got a type. He's got a type. She vanished during the Christmas season in 2008. She was a street kid who would hang around downtown Oshawa among groups of homeless kids who did drugs and kind of kept tabs on each other. That's how it works. So same exact thing. She disappeared 10 years earlier and

she's also struggled with substance abuse, run ins with law, ran away a lot from time to time. Her family didn't report her disappearance for almost two years after she was missing. That's how unreliable she was. Because she would just disappear all the time, so they thought she was just doing her own thing. It wasn't until the police looked through the missing persons record that they connected the dots between Strong and Fitzpatrick.

That's how it works. They also find a hammer with Rory's DNA all over it. Oh, Jesus. Yes. Is that how he dismembered her? They're thinking, no, no, no. They're thinking he killed her. He killed her with blunt force. She had skull fractures. They say they think she was probably strangled and beaten over the head with a hammer. That's how they think she went. They said they either

killed her during a sexual assault assault or when she was forcibly confined because they think she was in the bindings The forensic pathologist said she had skull fractures an array of injuries to her face and head But no explicit cause of death could be established. That's why they think maybe he was beating her and also strangled her That's the possibility But the DNA was found on blood spatter all throughout the apartment in the kitchen the bedroom the ceiling the stairwell blood spatter all throughout the apartment in the kitchen, the bedroom, the ceiling, the stairwell. They called it bloodletting events, like lots of blood were found in certain spots.

So they bring him back in to have a second interrogation. Sir, you have so much explaining to do. Oh my goodness. They sit him down. This is an 11 hour long interrogation. Obviously, we're going to give you some highlights. It's about as much time as needed. Cause we got about 20 minutes left of this. So yeah. They asked him, so how you been doing? And he is so upbeat, it's amazing.

He's just real upbeat this guy about everything. He said, I've been amazed at how well I've been treated. Oh, is that right? He said, other than a few staff members, it's been great. So he's enjoying, he's talking to this guy, Detective Mitten. He's just hanging out with him. They're sipping some drinks.

They got food for him and everything like that. And he has, he specifically requested Wendy's because he really likes Wendy's. Good call. And he said, I haven't had a good meal for months. They even let him smoke a cigarette. It's not a good meal. No, but compared to prison, it's meat is what you get. So he also is allowed to smoke in the interrogation room because this is a big

deal. He says, I imagine I've received a lot of hate mail, but he said, but they're intercepting it. So I don't know. I don't see it. Oh, I'm not getting it. He says he's actually safer here in jail than he would be on the outside because he tells the cops that the Hell's Angels are gonna be looking to kill me. He goes, by the way, because I know I found out this girl's family's deep into it,

so I'm probably better off in here than I am anywhere else. So they say, you told us some, you were a little light on info in this first interrogation. You didn't tell us everything. And he says, I was trying to protect my ass. Oh. He said, okay. He again talks about his bad childhood and all that.

And at one point he says, people have been calling me a monster. He says, am I a monster? Which is funny. And he says, I'm not, right? He said, yes, I do get off on tying up and choking sexual partners. That's true He says but he said I don't need that stimulation to get off He goes I can come without that so it's not like you know Yeah, it's not like somebody needs to set a fire and come while it's burning or something like a lot of guys do these

And I don't need that. It's just I like that there's a difference here just makes the load bigger it just makes it like feel like it's coming from my heels at that point you know like um sometimes it seems like it doesn't stop it just keeps going he said I didn't accidentally or intentionally kill anyone by choking them before after or during sex is what he says adamantlyantly. So okay, what about all the other times, after you've had sex or, you know, he says after or during, but I don't know. And then he says to prove that he's not a weirdo

and a sick guy, he says, quote, I worked at a daycare. Which only terrifies me. That does not make me feel better. That makes me feel much, much worse that this man worked at a daycare. But that was to show that he's a gentle man. He said, he then said, also he said he's very relieved that Rory's mother hadn't endured the horror

of seeing her daughter's remains. He said, that's good. He said, I really think it's important that she not see what's left of her daughter. It was really traumatic. I was really worried about the mother. This guy is- What the fuck is going on? He has brass fucking balls, this guy, brass balls balls this guy brass one the sickest people I've ever heard of in my entire life

I'm telling that when you if you see his demeanor you you yeah, it's like he's in there because You know a neighbor did something. He's like wow an interrogation room wild like that's how that's his attitude like I'm willing to help I would like you all in Canada to know that this didn't reach our shores. I didn't know anything about this. Me neither. You all may have been affected deeply by this. We didn't know. No, the lake kept this out of our whole thing.

Lost in the lake. You guys are sick. You're sick fucks. Yeah. It's all West Virginia I'm feeling like up there. He then said that he wanted to send Rory's parents a letter of condolence in solace. He said, I'd like to pass on to her mother and father my condolences. Her head was in your freezer.

They don't want to hear from you. He later told investigators to question him that he was surprised when her torso was discovered in the lake because he had taken precautions to keep that from happening. So he's like, I don't know how the fuck that, I weighed it down. This is crazy. He wants to talk about Rory a lot, which they already have all they need on Rory.

They want him to talk about Candace, which he is not willing to talk about very much. Really? No. So he wants to talk about Rory though. He says, I started dismembering her like about Christmas Eve because the people upstairs went away for Christmas. They did something

So the cop says are you doing this when it's frozen or like partially defrosted or how's it work? And Adam says completely defrosted He defrosted it. He defrosted her then they ask a little more about Rory and he says and I quote holy shit This is insane She did take up a lot of space in my freezer. Yes about Rory and he says and I quote, holy shit this is insane. She did take up a lot of space in my freezer, yes. Which is really the downfall, the downside of murdering people in your house is then you gotta, you gotta take all your frozen, all your Red Baron pizzas and tombstones out

of your freezer, you know? I really should have measured the cubic feet versus people. I couldn't even fit my pizza rolls in there. It was ridiculous. Wow. My totinos had to stay on the outside. Forget the green beans. He said, quote, I'm a real bad procrastinator.

Oh, Jesus. Procrastinator isn't the word I would use after I'm a real bad. He said, and that is really a detriment to myself. Definitely has fucked me over, he says. If only I could just get a schedule and stick to myself. Definitely has fucked me over, he says. If only I could just get a schedule and stick to it. He says, I'm sorry to sound matter of fact and cold, but that's exactly what it was. There was like a month where there was nobody upstairs, it was vacant, and I'm like, yeah, maybe I'll start tomorrow. He's just, he's lazy. He's too lazy to dispose of a body.

He's got a real, can you start my orange approach to life and it just doesn't work in this scenario He said it's not exactly something that one would look forward to so yeah, he's putting it off It's a huge pain in the ass so the cop said what were you going to do with the bones? And he says oh, I would have pitched it out in the lake So he had a plan Five hours into the interrogation five hours the detective turns the conversation toward Candice at this point And he says we look at the two girls that were aware of that you've been charged with because he's charged at this point Until they found the knife with the DNA then he's charged with murder

But before that he was just charged with counts of you know body stuff doing shit the bodies and he said that's what you've been charged with and Adam responds with yeah um um Candice Fitzpatrick is that right? Yikes. Yikes. The cop said yeah how did you meet Candice? Didn't say like did you know her he said how did you meet her? And he said, you know what? It's so long ago, I have no idea. I don't know.

How long ago? 10 years ago. I would remember how I met every woman I murdered. I don't know, just to, that's me. I can't imagine forgetting any of it, yeah. That's me anyway. I mean, Ted Bundy remembered crazy details and he killed 50 people.

Right, BTK remembered everything. Well yeah, he documented it all too. But I mean, people that killed, Dahmer was drunk and he remembered everything. Well yeah, he documented it all too. But I mean people that killed, you know, Dahmer was drunk and he remembered everything about everybody, you know? So you usually remember that kind of shit. And the cop said, when you first met her, and had she been to your place before,

and all those things, which is a really terrible phrasing of a question. That's his exact words. And had she been to your place before, and all those things. Sounds like he may have like a little tick that he says that a lot. The cop? Yeah, maybe. Plus he's, you know, when he says something you have to recalibrate your approach, so you have to figure it out on the fly. Adam says, well you have video from the roller rink.

So he's saying he was at with this girl at a roller rink and the cop says to my knowledge There's no video from the roller rink. I haven't seen that And then Adam says again, he said anytime these girls came over they always left on their own power He said you'll never find a video of her coming without leaving every time she came to my house She left my house under her own powers and the cops for that one time Well, the cops said Except for that one time. Well, the cops said Candice or Rory, and he said both. You just said, ah, she's in your freezer.

She didn't pack herself neatly in the freezer and flush the rest of her down the toilet. And you admitted, also, all this shit, you admitted that you would have thrown her bones away and you were procrastinating, so obviously that she didn't leave, and the the cop said there's been charges laid on you Do you know why like are you mentally damaged saying you have brain damage? And he said strong says I'm pretty sure that I have an idea of the objects that had her DNA on it

How's that sound? Yeah, like he's like So the cop said that would lead the investigators to believe she's met the same demise as Rory And Adam said that's the procrastination issue right there that fucked me again He said totally all I had to do was boil the knife. It's all I had to do He said cuz DNA doesn't work after it's been cooked He said why didn't I do it's just lazy. He's just lazy. That's all it is. He'd be a successful murderer if he just wasn't so fucking lazy.

How did, hmm, there's no way an investigator has ever encountered anything like this before. How do you not hear this and then stare him in the face with your mouth wide open? That's insane. How do you not go, what? Like, how do you not like, cause they're always leaning forward and how do you not lean back in your chair and just be like, wow, I gotta take, I need a minute. Do you have a Xanax or something? Cause this is a lot for me to take in right now.

Just, what did you just say? All I had to do was boil the knife. Meanwhile he's saying, I didn't kill her and if you see video, she'll always be leaving my house. But I didn't boil. You should have boiled the knife that killed her. Cause DNA doesn't work after it's been cooked He specifically says that cooked not boiled cooked

So the cop said was there times you would come across that and go well I really should you know take care of it, and he said I saw it yeah He said it was sitting sitting in the center of my draw cuz drawer cuz that's where the cleaners had left it And I was like oh shit forgot all about that He had cleaners in that place. I don't I don't know that must have been years ago because it's filthy All right, but he was just like yeah, he goes that's where I left it and I was like, oh shit forgot all about that How do you forget? Oh, yeah clean the murder weapon get the DNA off of it for ten years He didn't find the time to do that. The cop said, did you come across, how did you come across a huge span of

time not coming across that? Or did you come across a huge span of time where you didn't come across the knife? And he said, yeah absolutely. And the cop said, like years? And that's when Strong says, yeah. I think we're both talking about the same thing. I have no doubt about it. He won't admit it because he's saying he doesn't want, he doesn't want to admit to this Candice Fitzpatrick murder. He's still saying I don't know anything about that, but he's telling the cop, yeah, we're on the same page. I'm just not going to go right where you want him to go. Just say it, you son of a bitch.

So the cop very smartly says, what do you call that? Because he wants him to say the word knife. Say murder. He didn't say that. He said object. He's never said knife, Adam Strong, that that's what they're talking about. So then Adam says, oh, that's a deer skinning and field dressing tool. That's what he says. So the cop says, yeah, that's what I'd call it. I call it a gutting knife. Which is, and Strong said, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's what it is. Then he said, so lucky you or lucky yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. Then he said, so lucky you or lucky them, whatever. He said, I'm not a liar. OK, you can call me a lot of things. I'm not a liar. Generally, I'm not. But I often said this is a fucking craziest thing I've ever heard anyone say to a cop.

I've often said, you know, things I'd lie about. No officer. I didn't kill that woman or no officer, I didn't kill that woman. Or no officer, I didn't rape that girl. Those are things that are reasonable to lie about. Who the fuck would that cross their mind unless they've killed or raped people? You wouldn't... It's not a lie.

Unless you've done it. Unless you actually did it. Right. He said, those are things that's reasonable to lie about. And the cop said, I beg to differ, but I've never been in a position where I've done those things. And I'm like, you know, and Adam said, I'm sure you would feel differently if you were any points to himself.

And the cop goes, Oh, I'm sure I would. Like if you were in my position, you probably would feel different. Then they said, well, Fitzgerald's remit, we need to find the rest of Candice. We have her blood, we know Candice was in there, we need to find the rest of her, we need to recover her for her family. And he says, I'm not going to expound on that, he says. He says, I get that you got me on the indignity to a dead body, I really do. I wonder if you're throwing something at me to see if it'll stick Like yeah, so interesting guy He holds back some cards to play too because he'll say later on that he goes

I might have some information that I maybe will share possibly about the Whereabouts of Fitzpatrick's remains, but that's a card I'm gonna keep for later Maybe when it's deal time time to try to make a deal with the prosecutors So he's willing to take whatever charge it is on indignity to a corpse That's what he's willing to take and he said that means maybe I know I'm going to prison But maybe if I can give you some info here and there maybe I can get some comforts like, you know

Use of the internet and a TV or something like that, you know He says because he needs something to trade with down the line. He says, quote, I feel like spilling the beans, being as comfortable as I can in jail, like internet access, maybe not a TV, but I could be comfy inside. I read a lot. And then he said, I don't expect to get out a jail free card,

I just wanna be comfortable. If I let those cards out now here, then I won't have any to play later. Okay. So, he's saying later on, maybe I can get internet access by telling you where the bodies are. Yeah. I'm going to be one of those scumbags. Wow.

So, investigators now review cases dating back to 1996 even for him because they're like, who the fuck knows with this guy? Basically, since he's been an adult, let's look at that. They did extensive forensic work at the house with the police force announcing plans to dig up the backyard in search of more evidence and even though there's renters living in the upper floors how'd you like to be those poor people you just move in then there's meat in your plumbing and then for the next however long there it's a police circus in front of your fucking house. Yeah, it's the Dahmer life. The Dahmer neighbor life.

Exactly what it is. I guess he had, police are looking for anyone who can help them document Adam's movements from the mid-90s up until his arrest in December of 2017. We want to know everything about this guy. In particular, they're looking also for anyone who may have helped Strong tow his 18-foot boat to any part of the water in that area. He's got an 18-foot boat. Yes, so like someone might have helped him. So they seized his boat as potential evidence.

He was initially charged with committing an indignity to a body, which was Rory's remains. Now they're gonna lay two murder charges on him a year later. Once he sits in jail for a year, and then they lay two murder charges on him, and the parents feel better about murder charges being for their daughter's killer. Rory's mom said she believed her daughter had been hunted, which I think he left the house. I think he left the house,

he's like a trolling net, basically. I think he leaves the house, he's got the net out. If anything falls into it, great. If anything doesn't, whatever. But if you find some teenage girl that he can fucking run some game on, I think that's what he's gonna do. Or one that's probably not gonna be missed so much. That's a runaway. One that's not kept track of every day. The thing to do though, if you want to kill runaways, make them a little older. That's what you do.

People don't look for a 30 year old who's been make them a little older. That's what you do. People don't look for a 30-year-old who's been gone for a couple years. An 18-year-old girl will always be looked for. It's always the way it is. So this guy is as dumb as he is sick. So they said that Rory's mom said also that she had suspicion that whoever killed Rory

definitely knew what they were doing. This wasn't their first time doing it. She said, nothing's been proven, but in my heart, I feel my daughter was hunted. I felt that since day one. Imagine you're walking through the park one day and you see a suspicious backpack sitting underneath a bench. You report it to the police and upon investigating, they discover two live pipe bombs inside. You rush to clear the area before they explode, saving countless lives and preventing injury. Everyone declares you a hero for a fleeting moment until everything

changes and you are declared the prime suspect. This was the story of security guard Richard Jewell. After the Centennial Park bombing killed one person and wounded more than 100, public pressure and a media witch hunt pushed a desperate FBI to find a suspect. Despite obvious holes in the case and unethical tactics used by the FBI, security guard Richard Jewell was under pressure to confess. I'm Aaron Habel. And I'm Justin Evans. Join us as we explore the aftermath of the 1996 centennial Olympic Park bombing and the newest season of our podcast, Generation Y, the Olympic Park bombing. Follow Generation Y on the Wondry app

or wherever you get your podcasts, you can listen to Generation Y ad free right now by joining Wondry Plus. She said, my daughter was tough. She would have not been an easy catch for anybody to handle. No, she's used to being on the streets. Harley Davidson raised her. Nevermind that, it doesn't fucking matter at all

because half of those guys are, not the Hells Angels guys, but most bikers are posers anyway. They're just fucking middle-aged guys who wanna look cool. But- The guy that's named Harley Davidson by a Satan's choice. That's a different story here, but I-

She may have learned some things. I think it's more about on the street doing meth, probably. Yeah, and there's that. You tend to get little street smarts, I would imagine, and that sort of thing. Especially if you've ever had any prostitution, you gotta get, you better get up to speed real fast there. You're in deep shit.

So they said that, the prosecution here is saying that Rory was not misplaced in life, she was loved. Her mom said, my daughter was innocent blood. I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that this man never comes out of prison. She said her daughter loved music and dancing and was cadet of the year and all this and it's bullshit that, you know,

and she's pregnant for Christ's sake. She said she would have been a great mom and she was happy about the child. So the family wants the house of horrors as they call it torn down. They want, they do a big demonstration outside the home. The family wants the House of Horrors, as they call it, torn down. They do a big demonstration outside the home. More than 30 people are marching around calling for the city council to purchase the property

and destroy it. It's been owned by somebody since 1987. Oh, maybe they're willing to sell that. Maybe. The family said, we're haunted by this every day. We have no answers. It hurts us a lot Her aunt said my goddaughter died there She was chopped up there flayed like a fish and dispersed in the most horrendous way and nobody's talking about that

Fuck jeez. Yeah Stop it. I gotta fill this soon. So the police They said we can't just forget what happened You don't sweep it under the rug and And they said the family doesn't have closure and they want the city to help achieve that. The landlord says the upstairs, because the people left upstairs after a while, they said that could be rented anytime now,

but the downstairs apartment is boarded up still. Yeah, and fumigated too, fuck. The mayor said, if this had been seized by the government or by the proceeds of a crime If the building had been structurally deficient, that's a different story in this case We don't have a tool to go buy the property other than going to the homeowner and buying it directly He's like there's no government. We can't force a guy to sell us a fucking house He said but then we would have to demolish all properties where sad things happen That's the problem point., at what point do you stop

with that? Every house is going to end up something bad is going to happen and eventually you got to move on. Not the family, but the house. And when they're famous ones like that, the next person that owns it changes, it really levels it and and and redoes it completely redesigns it or something. Yeah. They also think Rory was sexually assaulted here, they're saying obviously. They found that he that she probably evidence found that she'd been strapped into a restraining device, which is a pulley over Strong's bed, which is terrifying. Now here, little quick little side note, some of the things he's being called in the in

the media, which are fucking hilarious. No people pull no punches He's a fat sloppy ugly fuck this guy. Okay. Oh, absolutely big fat so he looks like comic book guy from the Simpsons, but yeah, he's just a fat tub of shit and But he's a tub of shit and he's fat fat has nothing to do with it So the Toronto Sun called him quote the beefy BDSM enthusiast. That's one that I found fun. Then here's another one. Adam Strong charged with two counts of first degree murder is a fat mess of lard. This is from like the Toronto Sun or the Ottawa whatever the fuck.

A fat mess of lard stringy hair knotted in a rat tail at the nape of his neck dressed in a white sweatshirt and jeans. Then another one says the 48 year old slab of flab with the stringy hair and perennial 5 o'clock shadow. Fat mess of lard, slab of fab and beefy BDSM enthusiast. So 2019 is pre-trial stuff. He refuses to come out of his cell for a court appearance. And this pisses everybody off. He doesn't want to do it. He has on more than one occasion been very flippant

during his court appearances. He pisses the family members of the victims off constantly. Constantly. And he's a dick. He refused to appear for a video appearance that had been scheduled for some time. The lawyers discussed how to proceed and the judge suggested she order Strong, who has made all but one of his numerous court appearances by video, to appear in person for his next

appearance. The defense lawyer said that his appearances had been by video for a number of reasons, perhaps security reasons, and he led the defense lawyer and he said he and Lee defense lawyer would encourage Strong to cooperate in the future. They said that will be the message Mr. Balka and I will be passing along to Mr. Strong, the importance of appearing. Meanwhile, Candice Fitzpatrick's father Bill is there and he demanded to speak to the prosecutor, but the judge cut him off because you're not involved in this.

You're in the gallery. And this doesn't even concern your daughter, let alone you. It's sad, but I mean, as someone who's had a family member murdered, once the person is caught and all that, you really don't have, it's not you anymore. It's not. It's between them and the justice system at that point. Is his daughter's murder being charged here? Yes, it's two murders.

No, both murders. So he yelled back at the judge, shut up. Which, I don't give a fuck if your daughter's been murdered or not. You're lucky you didn't leave in cuffs because that is a very contemptive, like the judge would say, I get that your daughter died. You do that again, I'm gonna have you dragged out of here and say I get that your daughter died you do that again

I'm gonna have you dragged out of here and fucking thrown in the cell Don't do that shit again and while pointing his finger at the judge, too He said that Officials should order him to appear in person and the judge said I hear you sir And then Fitzpatrick as he leaves the room room, the dad says, bring him in in person, you fucking idiots. Okay, you're not helping at all. That's not, I get the emotion. I totally get the emotion, but that's not helping anything.

Then the family member, also, this is Rory's mom, Deon, or Shannon, her name is Shannon Deon. She said, we've had 37 court appearances. I understand the gentleman's under a great deal of stress, is what the judge said. And then the mother said, that gentleman waited, meaning the father, she said, that gentleman waited 10 years to find his daughter. So it's understandable, emotions are running high, as anybody would be. Other times he's been a real douche though.

As the brief ended strong said I guess His lawyer told strong he'd call him later to discuss the case and strong said he didn't feel up to it He said I was up all night. I'm tired. I want to go to bed In a previous appearance he hadn't been yet charged with murder they were talking about the future court dates Sure, and he said my schedule is open and I'm open-ended yet the judge says that comments not funny no which it kind of is honestly as much as I hate the guy you know what I mean comedy's comedy and that's kind of funny did he have a book and he like thumb through it and goes I'm open open. My schedule is wide open.

So the judge, then Strong says, I don't know, I was here, everybody's laughing. I thought it was funny. I want to fucking choke this guy. He's such a twat. September 2020 is the trial. He's charged with two counts of first degree murder. The prosecution here, they say both girls were vulnerable, were essentially homeless with no fixed address, both girls suffered from drug issues and sometimes worked in the

sex trade to help fund their drug habit. They said they will also call five women to the stand who are also victims of sexual violence by Adam Strong. They'll testify about the pulley contraption used to bind and restrain them as well. This is his thing that he does. The defense said, yeah, you proved that the dismembered woman was found in his house, but he said you didn't prove that he killed anybody. He just collects people and dismembers them. Obviously, he's like a taxidermist. That's all. The defense, by the way, does not call any witnesses and he doesn't testify

It's a three-month long trial and there's no jury. This is just for a judge So it's three months of a mountain of evidence against him and then they go now. We're good. We don't have anything to present Didn't didn't prove anything. Nope So the verdict the judge says that at issue was the whether the crown could prove beyond a reasonable doubt In the verdict, the judge says that at issue was whether the Crown could prove beyond a reasonable doubt about the extinguishing of two lives a decade apart. He said even though in an earlier ruling, the judge granted the Crown a similar fact admission which meant the evidence relating to Rory could be applied to Candace Fitzgerald. He says, considering the evidence as a whole, I conclude that it's possible that Miss Fitzpatrick's

death occurred during the commission of a sexual assault. However, I'm not sure that that is the case. In terms of unlawful confinement, I conclude that there's no evidence that Ms. Fitzpatrick was unlawfully confined at the time of her murder. The judge said murder there. Later on though, he comes back out and he says, I don't know about murder. He does say dismembered, dissected, disemboweled, defleshed both their bodies. He said, sank one victim's torso in the harbor except it was fished out by an angler,

stuffed body parts, including Hachet's head into an old freezer, tried, much later, flushing the other remains, flesh and or organs down the toilet, but it flooded and clogged, blocking everything. He said, while never specifically confirming he killed Rory, it would be absurd that he'd come across a dead body and taken it to his apartment to dismember it and dispose of it. You only dispose of people you kill. Let's make that rule here. He said, I'm satisfied that it was Mr. Strong who caused Ms. Hache's death on the evening of September 1st or shortly after. Satisfied, they said that she died from repeated blunt force trauma to the head and says, I reject the suggestion

that Ms. Hachet possibly died of an overdose because that's what the defense was trying to say because she had drugs in her system. So they said, as a matter of law, a person cannot consent to an intentional infliction of bodily harm. The sex act instantly becomes non-consensual There's a lot of people that would disagree with that by the way

Well, yeah depending on the level of pain the level of what they're saying any whatever any set of pain. That's yeah I do not know why mr. Strong began beating miss Hache. Perhaps she objected ultimately It doesn't matter motive is not part of the offense and that's one thing that people have to understand here. He said whatever they said, anything they said, any consent given earlier would have evaporated amidst the grievous bodily harm he was inflicting. They said there's no evidence of specific cause of death in relationship Candice Fitzpatrick. He says I am satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that she was killed in some unlawful fashion by Mr. Strong.

So then he says the fact that both women were dismembered following their deaths and that their remains were stored in a freezer as he sought to dispose of them. He says the charges that Mr. Strong would have twice found himself in need of a chest freezer to store the dismembered body parts of young women who met their deaths innocently is so infinitesimally small to suggest the opposite conclusion He fucking killed them. So that's what they do. They end up finding him guilty of murder of Rory But as like a manslaughter deal on Candace, it's a different It's a different thing here

So during sentencing Fitzpatrick's dad the one who shouted out Said that he looked all over the streets of Oshawa and other cities after his daughter disappeared. He said he was devastated hearing that she was dead. After all the years of searching, this was not the outcome I expected. I was shattered by the news. So the judge says, you, sir, may fuck off life imprisonment without the possibility of parole for 25 years, because that's Canada's longest sentence

you can get. They don't do life without totally. So the biker connection, by the way, yeah, Hache's father said in a fucking televised interview that prison would be the end of this guy. He said it on camera. We're gonna find him. He said, we're like a biker gang, we're gonna find this guy. Yeah, we're camera. We're gonna find him. He said we're like a biker

gang. We're gonna find this guy. We're in there and he's gonna get it. So six months after sentencing, November 2021, the homicide unit receives information that Mr. Strong while incarcerated has disclosed information pertaining to the location of Candace Fitzpatrick's remains. Investigators got an authorization and they took him out to a small clearing by the tree line behind Secreto Drive in Oshawa. They confirmed that the remains they found were of Candace Fitzpatrick. What was he trying to get?

He couldn't get it, they got nothing out of it, so they said fuck it, I'll tell ya. They said that this- He had to get something, and they're not telling us, right? I'll bet somebody told- He got, he was found by somebody in there and he was like, I need better protection. Something.

I'll give you where her body is if you keep those people away from me. I don't know. So yeah, they said, this is Rory's mother said, conscience is ugly when you're dealing with it in the dark all by yourself, you know? So I'm not grateful to him. I'm thankful to God that he made this happen and, you know, I'm happy for the family that they have closure now. Well, then I don't know how you can say that God found the body, but God didn't cause the

death then. That's, that's, you can't, you can't pick and choose that stuff, but I get where she's coming from and if my kids was murdered, I'd feel the same way. So I'm with you. Um, they said, what I can say is there's no financial compensation or added privilege I get where she's coming from and if my kids was murdered, I'd feel the same way. So I'm with you. They said, what I can say is there's no financial compensation or added privilege for him while in custody as a result of our actions. This is from the prosecutor.

The question as to why, that would be a question for Mr. Strong. And they said since he's already been convicted on the offenses, they can't add murder now because he already got convicted for the manslaughter. So you can't give an upcharge on it. So that's that so they said I mean, it's either way It would have been the same sentence. Anyway, he's saying so yeah, then 2022 the cops were called to his house Where they found suspicious clothing on the property and that they said that the forensic officers were dispatched to collect evidence and They're not sure if the if the clothes are connect to anything or not Yeah, they turned one of these two or somebody else

Yeah They turned out that who knows her father Candace's father again said when I first heard of this the first thing that came to my mind What was that? This could be a third victim right now receiving some more information, I'm hopeful it's nothing suspicious. So there's Adam Strong and there's Oshawa. Do you see why we had to tell that story? See what I mean? Like that story is so fucking crazy. The extra people in town, whatever, I don't care.

Nobody knows that, right? This is fucking insane. I've never heard of that. Canadians know about it, I'm sure. There's no way that happens and nobody notices Fuck no fuck no plus. There's a bunch of like YouTube videos about it, and it's a lot going on Yeah, you could I'm telling you watch two minutes of entire his interrogation. You're gonna. Go. I can't believe this man is sitting here Yeah, after they found parts in his freezer, and he's this like hey guys

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