Small Town Murder - #551 - The Hammer Hands Killer - Yankton, South Dakota

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

This week, in Yankton, South Dakota, the discovery of a headless, handless, footless woman, on top of the ice, in a small river ends a massive search for a woman who vanished. She was last seen by her boyfriend, who has a lot of brain damage, and literally hammers nails into wood, with his bare hands. He also went on a 600 mile adventure, to the same place where the woman's body was found, while she was missing! Coincidence, or horribly cold blooded murder??Along the way, we find out that frat boys maybe shouldn't write country songs, that it's actually physically possible to hammer nails with your hands, and that you don't cut the head off of a person that you didn't kill!!New episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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We are comedians so there's going to be jokes here. Now that doesn't mean that the story is less real or anything like that. Unfortunately every last detail of these stories is real. That's the scary part but there is so much murder in the world. You know however you want to look at that sadly happens a lot that once in a while they're insane and we talk about those. So that's how that works here. And what we do is we go out of our way not to make fun of the victims or the victims families. Why, James? Because we're assholes. Yes, but. But we're not scumbags. That's how that goes. See? That's nice stuff. So if you think true crime and comedy though, never

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I think it's time to sit back everybody. Let's all clear the lungs, let's say, and arms to the sky and let's all shout. Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this, everybody. Here we go. Let's go on a trip, shall we? Yeah. Oh boy, we are going on up to South Dakota today. Right.

Going to Yankton, which if you've watched Deadwood, you've heard the name of that town about seven trillion times because everything, it was the center of the kind of territorial Dakota where all the political power was. So everybody had to always go to Yankton to get stuff done. They're always worried about what was happening in Yankton. Always. What are they doing in Yankton? What are they talking about?

We can't get word back to Yankton about what we're doing over here. That son of a bitch in Yankton's trying to screw me over. That's all it ever was. So this is in South extreme. The Pinkertons are coming now. Now the Pinkertons are coming from Yankton to bother us. Great. Watch Deadwood if you haven't everybody.

Fuck it's good. So this is in extreme southeastern South Dakota, way over in the southeast part of the state. It is the closest city here really is about two and a half hours to Omaha which is Nebraska yeah no Omaha up there it's about six and a half hours to lemon South Dakota which is our last South Dakota episode which was twin marrying madness that was crazy that's where the guy married one twin got divorced married her again then got divorced then married her twin sister and Somehow that ended up with murder shocking, right?

Very surprising. That was a crazy story. This is in Yankton County It is area code six zero five and the motto of this town. They have a motto a nickname I should say mother city of the Dakotas. Oh. Yeah, that's a claim. That's quite the claim. It all comes forth from me. Just from here.

According to Deadwood, though, like we've discussed, it sounds like it was right. Yeah, it's the place that started everything, or at least was in charge of everything. Yeah. Yankton is commonly referred to as the River City due to its proximity to the Missouri River and kind of the importance of the river in the whole area. As we know, everybody settled near water first, pretty much, because they needed to be able to get other places and buy water or send their goods away. They call it the mother city of the Dakotas due to the early important role it played

in the creation and development of the territory, which the Dakota territory, which then became the 39th and 40th states of North and South Dakota here. They started, apparently, the early exploration of this place was of Fort Hayes limestone. They made cement there, I guess. It was cement manufacturing and they would ship cement to the construction of the Panama

Canal at one point. They made so much cement there. Did you know, James, that that's the largest construction project ever that had the most casualties? Oh, I know so many people died. So many people. So many people. There was no, yeah, that made the Hoover Dam look like nothing.

There was nothing. No, that was international shit. People just, who do you have that we can throw in a deep hole and no one will miss is what it was. It was crazy. That shit was wild. So yeah, Yankton at one point not only was it the mother city of the Dakotas, it had the nickname of Cement City. Yeah.

Which doesn't sound attractive at all for a picturesque place up there. So in 1861 the territorial government was established with the city of Yankton designated as the first capital of Dakota territory. So it was the capital during, until it became an actual state, it was the capital. That's why all that shit and deadwood was going through there. What's the capital now?

South Dakota, Pierre. Pierre, yeah. Yeah, because Bismarck is North Dakota. They published their first newspaper, The Weekly Dakotan there as well well and the steamboat trade flourished there Until 1873 when the railroad line connected shit, and then they were like why are we using steamboats? This is so inefficient here They also have the NFAA the natural National Field Archery Association Moved its headquarters from Redland, California

to Yankton, South Dakota. And they have some very weird Ted Nugent kids archery weekend there every year. Send your kid to hang out with Ted Nugent for a weekend. A weird thing to do. In the Dakotas? In the Dakotas. It's not even from here.

Nope, but this is where archery is. So reviews of this town, they range. Let's just say that here's five stars. It is fantastic. Exclamation point. Even though there isn't much to do in the winter times, you can always look forward to having the river nearly in your back door, not at your back door. It's in your back door. A whole river. The whole river right up your ass. Right up your ass and in your back door. Next one is four stars. It's long but this person's, I love their first sentence so we have to use it. Four stars, quote, I have no social life but still feel content here. I think that sums up a lot of what, you know, not a lot to hang out and do. There's a combination of old and young people.

The sky is blue during the day. Like this versus this. Yeah. It's just being alive. Where is there not a combination of old and young people? It is a very calm, easygoing place where anyone and everyone is usually helpful. It's hard to get lost as it's a small, well-connected community. There is diversity in shopping centers. Needing different strip malls that you can get. One has a Panera Bread while the other has a Target, you know, like... It sounds

great. Sounds like there's a little something for everybody. Apparently that's what this person is trying to say. Cho choices for dining out or in are innumerable Just too many to even count the roads are well maintained houses are kept up The town is expanding at a steady pace There is natural parks and lakes for all sorts of activities outside the weather is nice Oh nice almost all the time there are miles of empty roads waiting to be explored. The wifi is usually good.

The whole town is not responsible for your wifi, dude. Nothing to do with it. No frequent outages. Residents are usually calm and don't riot. It's a small town in South Dakota. What the? What were you expecting? I'm gonna, spoiler alert,

there's about 15,000 people in this Dakota. What the? What are you expecting? I'm gonna, spoiler alert, there's about 15,000 people in this town. How many 15,000 person towns have riots? There's barely enough people for a riot. You need more than that for a riot, don't you? Holy shit. If the internet goes down, you better watch out, James. All 15,000. Oh, that's why the Wi-Fi's strong. Keep them occupied so they don't riot all the time. Keep them distracted. Wow. Local stores are nice and usually kept well, inside and out.

All sorts of personality. A minimum security jail for petty crimes is nearby. Holidays sparkle with life. Residents love to decorate and celebrate the holidays with neighbors. The local swimming pool was recently renovated and can now accommodate all. All of them.

As opposed to who was allowed there before. We even take Jews and minorities and such now. What are they talking about? I understand it's probably handicap access now is what they're getting at. Yeah, nerds, ropes and shit. Yeah, everything. People who like, you know, licorice, it doesn't matter. Even black licorice people, they can come too.

Which I don't mind black licorice, I know that's controversial. A lot of people hate it. Yeah, I don't mind it, not bad. Two stars here. There isn't much around here. The town of Yankton has around 17,000 people. There's a Walmart, a Kmart, and a Walgreens,

and that's about it. That's not good. No, we have a mall, but there are probably nine stores in it. There are more fast food restaurants than our sit-down restaurants. So this is very different from what that other person told us.

And when was that posted? Because I thought the last Kmart just closed down. That was posted in 2018 So okay, they could have stood they could you know what though one? Who knows where the where the Kmart's ended up the last Kmart's are probably in places like this like in the middle of nowhere Finally one star Yankton has a serious all caps drug problem Does it?

It is nicknamed Cranktown. Okay. Or Crankton would probably be better, but they needed to put that W in there. Employers used to have a zero tolerance on drugs. Now the policy is one positive test and you get a slap on the wrist. This site listing for housing and rent prices is ridiculous and way too low. We use a different site, don't worry. Wages stink and turnover is over 35%.

People move here thinking it's a great place and move back to where they came from after six months. There's nowhere to shop. Kmart closed as did Pennies. It did. Yeah, it did. It closed. Kmart and the Pennies are both closed. Damn it. Gas prices are usually at least a dime higher

than surrounding communities. Some houses have junk yards in front of the house and the city does nothing. Drive down Broadway, the main highway through Cranktown, and look at the dilapidated houses lining the street. Utility bills are outrageous. He's just picking up just angry shit out of the air. This is a man that doesn't want to or a woman that doesn't want to spend a dime on anything. There's no congruity to any of these complaints. Everything should be free. They always list household income, not saying it is at least three different jobs to exist in Cranktown, though the drugs flow freely and the paper arrest reports always

include arrests for drugs and probation violations. Okay, I don't get that guy at all. Okay, population of this town, people, 15,332 people. Few more males than females. It's like the opposite of what's normally. It's over 51% male. I think there's a lot of like outdoor jobs going on here. Median age is 40.

It's a little older than 38, which is the average. Few less married people here than usual. Everything else is pretty on the money though. Divorce rate, widow rate, everything is pretty normal. Race of this town, 85.22 percent white 1.8 percent black 0.2 percent Asian 3.9 percent Native American which that's a lot actually of Native American the right in the whole country it's 0.6 percent Native American so yeah and then 6 percent Hispanic here 68.2 of the percent of the people here are religious which is very it's approaching like small-town Mississippi numbers here

And the most the highest there's a lot of Lutherans first of all as this area. Yeah, Minnesota's a lot of Lutheran 33.3 percent are Catholic didn't know that that's high. I don't understand that. Apparently Catholics are the Baptists of the mid-northern plains region. I don't fucking know. That is wild. Grain Baptists. Grain Baptists. 0.0% Jewish though, that we do know.

Cost of living here, overall here, 100 is regular average. Here, it is 82.7. So, healthcare is really expensive here housing is actually cheaper though median home cost here 238,800 bucks which is still pretty steep for what you get yeah when I tell you about this and you know what maybe you're gonna move here you're gonna reopen that Kmart you can do it there's a big place for a spirit Halloween store to go to.

We have for you the Yankton South Dakota real estate report. Your average two bedroom rental here very much cheaper than the rest of the country $830 so yeah, but you know two-thirds of the rest of the country here is this house is crazy It's a one-bedroom one bath, so I guess t-ball for each and every b-hole. I suppose for just your one b-hole 418 square feet It's not it's a house that's a house. It's not, it's a house. That's a house? That's an actual, and it's not like a newfangled fucking tiny house like from HGTV. This was built in 1920.

So they were making tiny houses in 1920 and it's this one. It's this little tiny box and then it's got a little one car garage that looks like it's the same fucking size as the house. It's crazy. It's like you just have two houses kind of it It's kind of a dream. You know anything like where you have no nothing. Yeah, that's not a dream It's a very simple why it's a to have nobody or anything. Yeah, that's a very Just you and your truck that you might as well live in a truck. It's nearly the same size

It says welcome to your new haven this quaint well-maintained home is perfect quaint means extremely tiny well-maintained home is perfect for first-time buyers or those looking to downsize I would say downsize a lot just get out of prison looking to downsize we have something for you then they say it's a featuring a cozy layout. There's no other way to make that but cozy. It's 400 square feet. Your bed's on top of your stove. Stretch out are not things you can do.

Shit no. 93,000 bucks for that though. It is yours for under 100,000. So you can do that. Any land at all? No, no, no, no. A real tiny little lot that it barely fits on. Here is a five-bedroom two-bath, 2,204-square-foot house here on.36 acres, so a decent-sized lot.

Built in 1917, a lot of these houses are old. Old. Old, old. It sits nice. It says there's plenty of room to play catch or fetch. That's how they describe the yard. Front porch is perfect for relaxing with a friend and enjoying the weather. Not your kids, not your relatives, only a friend.

Little weird real estate listing. So strange. I was like, what is that? Relaxing with a friend. It needs some serious updating on the inside. It's old in there. It's not quite that, but 1989 maybe. It doesn't look great in there.

$229,000 bucks for that though. That's not bad. Not bad for a decent-sized house. And finally four-bedroom five-bath tee ball for all your bee holes. Each and every bee hole 6227 square feet. Wow. It backs right up to Lewis and Clark Lake. They must have been there. It's apparently so. It's on one point five oh acres. Yeah, definitely. When they came up there, because I remember all their stories of the natives in that area.

One point five acres. So nice. Really nice inside, too. It's pretty. It's done really. It's not done cheesy or it's done like rustic with like nice beams. Big giant stone fireplace in the living room that looks like it's in like rustic with like nice beams big giant stone fireplace in the living room that looks like it's in a lodge or something it's really nice big giant circular driveway around it 1 million six hundred forty nine thousand bucks so but it little pricey seven thousand square feet a house a lot of

house it's a lot of house any yeah and a lake and there's nothing around it there's like no next-door neighbor on top you. It's you're by yourself. It's pretty nice. Pretty nice place there. Get after it. Things to do in this town. This is the thing. Every review almost had talked about this event. I had to get rid of those because we were going to talk about it. The Yankton Riverboat Days and Summer Arts Festival. They got a riverboat. They got a riverboat, huh? They got a riverboat. They're all about the river there.

And one of the things they have on the website is these two just middle-aged people standing there with captain's hats on. And they're a man and a woman. And they're the 2024 Captain and Bell. Captain and his bell there. And it says, congratulations to our new captain and Bell Tom and Kelly Holstrom.

Congratulations. Let's all do it together everybody. Congratulations Tom and Kelly Holstrom. This year's Riverboat Day's theme is a journey through history, the magnificent Meridian, coinciding with the hundredth anniversary of Yankton's Meridian Bridge. Now in this there is a Kitty Centipede train, which I don't like that at all. That makes Kitty Human Centipede does not sound good at all. I think that's going to be bad. The Dakota Dance Association can can.

Alright, and then let's get to the entertainment here. We have Elizabeth Joe. What does she do? What do you think she does? Well, she sings. It says, what do you think she sings? Elizabeth Joe J.O. It says she grew up on a farm right outside of Tabor, South Dakota and intended Bonham High School. She was influenced by country music at a young age with influences such as? What do you think? Miranda Lambert? Boom!

That's one. She has three listed. Nope. No, no. The other chick from American Idol, the blonde, Carrie Underwood? Yep, that's two. Two out of three. Miranda Lambert, Carrie Underwood, one more.

You can do it. Taylor Swift. No, no, no. Shit no she's a little these are Martina McBride yeah how are you going with Martin maybe her mom listen to her I don't know she started playing guitar and writing a music around the age of 12 now she's ready to go here while in Nashville she's played at such bars as Tootsies honky- Tonk Central, Kid Rocks on Rippies, and Rippies on Broadway.

And she even recorded and released her first single, Ride Away Cowboy. It was streaming on all platforms. Take a hike asshole. Then there is Clayton Mullen will be there. West Coast born and East Coast raised it says. It wasn't until Clayton found himself in the heart of the Texas music scene that his musical journey began. Started writing songs in his college frat house.

This sounds very country doesn't it? West Coast East Coast frat house. Holy shit. frat house holy shit opening for artists like Chris Lane Corey Kent Warren Zeders Randall King Adam dolyak and the Josh Abbott band okay sounds great they're headliners now he's done it that's what he opened for I would hope they're fucking headliners so yeah he he's doing all of that. There's also Randy Hauser. Oh Racked up over a half a dozen hits in a billion streams Yeah, his how country feels album topped the charts with the title track running out of moonlight and good night kiss

Any areas those are enormous songs. It's hilarious Because I've never heard of them I might as well be reading in Swahili right now I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about to me. This is just sounds like No, I don't know any of this I've never been more out of my element This is like I took you to my relatives house and everybody was talking in Italian you go what's happening right now What are they saying? Is it about me? That's how I feel I Don't get it

Yeah running out of moonlight that I know it's on there run out of moonlight That's why I made sure to run running because there's no G on that running out of moonlight. Yeah running out of moonlight that I know it's on there Run out of moonlight. That's why I made sure to run in because it's It's written like that Even was a nominated CMA song of the year like a cowboy. Yeah, that's his best song truly like a rinestone not that one I'm sure he is. I'm sure he's just like a cowboy This is Christ Get the fuck out of here so also there what is this lit will be headlining Saturday night Yeah, along with dia Monte at the I don't know who the fuck that is either here. Um, they really are.

I think that's a big one though. They're talking about little lot, hard charging hits like, man, we know those, we know they are actually, you know, let D'Amante spend her teenage years cutting her teeth at local gigs on the sunset strip. Okay. Yeah, no shit. She's been groped. Probably that's not good. She's heard some awful, awful, awful stories, poor thing. Yeah, no shit. She's been groped probably. That's not good. Yeah, poor thing. She's heard some awful things. Awful, awful stories, awful stories. That said, crime rate in this town.

Here we go. Well, we are interested here. Property crime is a little bit above average, actually, which is, it's 17,000 people. It seems like there shouldn't be that much property crime. And then violent crime, murder, rape, robbery, and of course assault. The Mount Rushmore of crime is right at the national average.

Oh. I don't know what's going on up here or why these people are doing so much crime, but it seems like a lot for a small town that's like in the middle of nowhere. This isn't like outside Memphis or something. He and Randy Howser up there, James. Shit's about to pop off.

Shit like a cowboy, they're gonna tear this place apart. Holy shit. That said let's talk about some murder. Here we go. Alright this story man, holy shit. This story begins with a mother that can't find her daughter. Her adult daughter. Her 45 year old daughter as a matter of fact, very much adult daughter, can't find her. Um, it is in 2019, March the 5th, 2019, this mother calls the cops because she has not talked to her daughter since March 1st, 2019, which is four days. And they usually talk constantly.

So there's the mother doesn't like that she can't get ahold of her. And she's even they've looked for her. This woman's mother's daughter who's missing or she thinks is missing. This woman's son has a key to her apartment. So she goes over and he goes over twice a day to check and see if she came back or if she's there. You know, the mother is calling and texting all of her daughter's friends, trying to find anything out. So it's not like she just disappeared and people are like, oh, I'm worried for no reason. Like no one had seen her. And her mother is in New Mexico at the time. Oh, and she came in Albuquerque. Yeah, no, she's doing all this by phone trying

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And she said, well, I mean, she's had kind of a turbulent relationship with her boyfriend, but nothing crazy. And you know, he says he doesn't know where she is either. So I don't know what to do here. So the cops have to try to find her and they're looking all over the place because there are when we talk about her lifestyle, her daughter kinda, could be anywhere type of thing. It's one of those deals. So we'll talk about it right now.

And her daughter that's missing is Tamara, who I don't know how to say this, Laframboise, I'm gonna say, L-A-F-R-A-M-B-O-I-S-E. I know that's like Boise, but Laframboise, I don't know if that's what it is. Or if it's Laframboise, I don't know if that's what it is or if it's a lot from block I don't fucking know Tamara is what we're gonna call Tamara here. We'll go with that. Yeah, we'll go with Tamara

She's born and the mother tells the cops giving her the rundown of who she is. She's born December 7th 1972 and She was born in Mo bridge, South Dakota or ma bridge. I don't knowe Bridge, South Dakota, or Ma Bridge, I don't know, M-O Bridge, South Dakota. She's the only child of her mother, too. So that's it, and her mother's getting up there in age as well, so she'd like to know where her daughter is, obviously. So she's the only child of Mary, who is her mother.

She grew up mainly in Aberdeen, South Dakota, here. We did an episode there. Yeah, we did an episode there. We're like, why are you naming it after that? So, now Tammy and her mother, Mary, moved to Albuquerque when she was a month old. When Tamara was a month old, her and her mom moved there to Albuquerque where her mother

was going to school. Her mother was going to college there. So then her and her mother returned to the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation while Tamara was still a preschooler and she started going to elementary school at Standing Rock, the school there. So she, they're also Catholics. They take her to communion and do all that stuff. She the family then moved to Aberdeen where Tammy continued to go to school. She

went to a Catholic school there, the run Kali Catholic School, then transferred to Aberdeen public schools. And she attended Central High her sophomore and junior year and run Collie high in her freshman year. So she moved around a lot. And then in her senior year, she's somewhere else. She's in Wisconsin that we'll talk about. She transfers to Washburn High in Washburn, Wisconsin, where she graduates. So three different high schools is a lot.

Yeah, four years. You're only there for a little bit. Yeah. Why are you moving so much you don't really use to Understandable if a parent gets relocated. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot That's getting to be a lot for a kid and another state to in Wisconsin socially It's that's hard to get your footing. I would imagine she's real outgoing though. There's no like no worry about her from anybody But you know she's gonna go to a new school. She'll have no friends

Nobody thinks that about her. She's like outgoing bubbly making friends You know she shows up somewhere the next night. She's got 20 friends. You know that's that's kind of how she is so um you know friendly and She attended college Tamara did at the University of Minnesota for her freshman year, but then she moved to California. She left the University of Minnesota, went to California where she had a bunch of different, you know, kind of just jobs to make ends meet while she was figuring out what to do for school. There's a lot of kids do. They might, you think you're going to do a certain thing and then they go to school for the freshman year

and they go, I don't wanna do this anymore. What the hell am I doing? And some people just say, well, I guess this is what I'm doing now. And they proceed and then they just hate whatever they're doing for the next 40 years. But some people go, hold on, hard stop. I'm gonna figure this out.

I don't know what I'm doing here. So she ends up being ready to return to college at some point and she goes to the American River College in Sacramento. That's a college that teaches about nothing but rivers. That's all it's about. River talk, that's all they have there, exactly. Now she eventually transfers to the University of California at Davis, so UC Davis she goes to,

to pursue a degree in environmental biology. Oh. Yeah. So she's smart too. That's the other thing. She's not a dumb young lady here by any stretch. She graduated from UC Davis in 2001 with a bachelor of science degree. So there you go.

Got a BS from there. Both of her children were born while she was attending college. Because she, I think, yeah, she's like 29 when she graduates. So she's fun. So yeah, she's having a good time in college. She's, and doing the work. No kidding.

A good enough time to spit kids out, but still graduates, not bad. That's fun. She has two children Ron jr. And Sydney is our other kid here and She everybody is a friend to Tammy She like I said she can walk into a room and make friends with everybody immediately so he's oh, I mean I got new friends I'm going here. I'm going there

She they said to you could like fuck her over and she'd forgive you She they said to you could like fuck her over and she'd forgive you She never was she's just had a lot of friends and didn't lose any because she could manage to keep them like that She's big into the underdog always always trying to fight find a cause to fight for which would piss her mother off Mother will you just concentrate on yourself? So her mother describes her as such She was a very bubbly, intelligent, happy-go-lucky, friendly person. I don't think there were many people that she met that didn't like her, meaning when she was younger. She just got along with people. She also volunteered

at the Humane Society and really liked animals and all the people at the Humane Society and she liked people adopting animals and shit like that. She's really nice. Now when she was a college student, this is wild. She had her college schedule. She also has a kid or at the time that another kid, she would, she still managed to train for marathons. Wow.

I don't know how you can have two babies and college and train for a marathon. That seems. And take care of dogs and shit. And then do dog stuff too. She eventually ran seven marathons and even qualified for the Boston Marathon. Oh, is that right?

So yeah, she's not even bad at it. She's pretty decent at it. So not too shabby. She even taught boot camp at a local athletic club, like a workout boot camp. She's pretty decent at it. So not too shabby. She even taught boot camp at a local athletic club, like a workout boot camp. She's athletic. She's petite, real outgoing. Stays in shape. Yeah. And the chick who runs that, you know that lady. You know what I mean? She talks and she's got boundless energy and you show up at 5.30 and she's already fucking doing

jumping jacks and you're like, oh god kill me Fucking kill me. Yeah kill me. You please kill me. This is terrible She served as vice president of her son's football league as well So she gets around to doing things and she's responsible She started got a job and started with the US Bureau of Reclamation in Sacramento, California. I did not know we had a Bureau of Reclamation, but we do, apparently. Reclamation water, that kind of shit? I assume so. Yeah, because it's all about water shit because I found in a lot of newspaper searches, I found her name attached to articles about water rights

and water things and it would say, to voice your opinion, contact her and it would have her, for more, here it is, for more info, email her, tlaffremboys at mp.usbrgov and tell her what you think. So. Reclamation water is a terrific project too. It's not potable water. So yeah

They take the chunks out of it and send it on down so yeah, like it's it's really great for like fertilization Look your poop out. Yeah Put your own ponds are gone. That's it That's it and that's all. So yeah, so we got that. She's doing all this shit. So she probably had, you know that's the type of thing where some people have very strong opinions about something and don't.

So I'm sure she got tons of emails that were not friendly to have to deal with. So she ends up moving from Northern California and taking her kids back to Albuquerque where her mom lives. So she's going there. While she's in Albuquerque, I don't understand what went wrong. Something had to go wrong because she's living in the Sacramento area. She's got a good job,

and then she moves to Albuquerque, which is not a move that you make on purpose, generally, unless you're going there for employment or something. Oh, I got a job offer in Albuquerque. She goes there and works as a waitress, which makes no sense why somebody with a college degree and was using that college degree in the career she had would then be like, I'm moving to Albuquerque with my mom and I'm gonna just wait tables.

Something had to happen. She worked as a waitress, also an apprentice electrician and a phone rep, a customer service rep on the phone and even a laborer. She even just did labor work. Problem is, and I think I figure out, I think it's easy to figure out what happened is, she has, starts to have real problems with meth.

That's the issue. Oh no. Yes. And this is not the person you would expect to get into meth. This isn't somebody who's 18 and hanging out with their friends. This is.

Very choice. Yeah, this is an adult woman with children and a college degree and a good job and all this. And the next thing you know, there's meth. Life just imploded. And she's waiting tables in Albuquerque, living with her mom. So that's how fast meth can fucking shit up.

And she has some struggles. As a matter of fact, she's arrested quite a few times for not just meth and drug possession, but the things that come from that. Oh, boy. Being crazy out in public, doing wild things, loitering, things like that. She's always having problems here.

She gets arrested on, what is this, November 12, 2012 here for an attempt to commit a felony possession of a controlled substance, methamphetamine. So that's a problem there. That's one of her arrests. She has many to a point where she's on probation and she's got that overhead now too. So that's tough. That's a tough one here. In the summer of 2000, now this is, there is, I believe, I'm gonna think it was 2015 is when she came here because there's some, just some- Is that Albuquerque?

No, no, came to Yankton. She came to Yankton. I believe it's 2015 because there's definitely some like contrasting facts here, whether it was 2015 or 16, but I'm gonna think it was 2015. She decided to visit a friend in Yankton, is what the official story is. She ended up staying in Yankton and getting a job.

And she made friends as she always does and does all that kind of thing. Now there is different stories. Like I said, one story says she moved, she came to Yankton to visit a friend and liked it and stayed. Got a job and stayed. Of the other narrative,

and I believe this is from her mom, is that she came to try to make a fresh start after struggling with meth addiction in New Mexico. Which New Mexico has a lot of meth, and if you've ever been to New Mexico, you go, man, I could use some meth addiction in New Mexico. Oh boy. Which New Mexico has a lot of meth, and if you've ever been to New Mexico, you go, man, I could use some meth to hang out here. This place sucks. Makes you wanna do meth, Albuquerque.

So she then moves there, and apparently she's, at first she's pretty successful in Yankton here. She works at a few different businesses, makes a lot of friends, and she actually buys a Harley, which was her lifelong dream. Lifelong dream? She's always wanted a Harley. Wow.

She's a tiny, she's real petite too, so. Yeah, she's getting a Harley, and that's what she loves. Her mom said she thought she was a biker chick. She wasn't, but she thought she was and wanted to be. And she got a job at Wilson Trailer, as we all try to do. Everybody wants a job at Wilson Trailer here. She began her job there in late 2015, lived in an apartment on Deer Boulevard in Yankton County. And Tamara's daughter here stayed, said that she had stayed with her mom for months, leaving to go home to Albuquerque in early 2019.

So she came later on, stayed with her mother for a while. She said that she noticed while she was there that her mother was definitely struggling with the meth addiction here. So this is going on for years now. And your 40s is just too late to do meth. That's not the time. It's a...

Meth is a young man's drug. You know what I mean? Your body's not as resilient as it used to be. Dude, I can't imagine doing like recovering from like two days of a meth jag right now. My body would be fucked up. No good. Your 40s is not your time for meth. So no, she said no. She's her daughter said though, she never in front of her displayed violent violence or any like changes in her demeanor. Like she wouldn't

smoke meth and then pull a knife on you until you hand over your wallet or anything. She wasn't like that. She's chill. She just wants to do her meth and you know, be a decent person. Left alone. Yeah. A lot of people say that she's nice on meth, off meth, whatever it is. She's a nice person. You got to like her, you know? So very happy to be around others and all that kind of thing. Now her son, Ron noted that yes, his mother did struggle with meth use, but he said the biggest change he noticed about her wasn't a change in behavior when she was on meth. Her voice would change. Oh, she becomes a different person. But she was the same, but her voice would like, she would sound different after she

did meth. So that's real weird. I don't know if it... Deeper? I think so. I think it maybe, I don't know have a constricted vocal cords or whatever the fucking deal is but She he said her like helium for yeah That's how meth should make your voice sound Your face really give it away, but if you got pick marks and the high voice, that's it right there You should absolutely just a big old smoke and then just be like, whoa, that shit was crazy, man. Damn, whoa, what are you gonna do?

All right, all right, all right, let's take apart the television and put it back together again. What do you say? Okay, great. Yeah, yeah. Sounds like Christopher Lloyd in the Faire and Virajra wrap.

Yes, exactly. Oh my God. What do you say? Let's just walk. You know what we do? We'll walk to New Jersey and then come right back. What do you say? Cool, good, let's do it, okay?

I wanna go. I wanna find out what it looks like. Maybe the roads fun. Let's go That would be awesome we need fucking voice-changing meth put helium anybody out there manufacturing meth find a way to infuse it with helium Please it's helium in there So she's still very warm and she made a friend while she is up here. She makes a boyfriend as a matter of fact. And this guy is an interesting cat.

He's a contradiction in many ways here. How so? Well, he's got like a girlfriend. He has an ex-wife, we know about that. Then he's got a girlfriend that he stopped ex-wife we know about that then he's got a girlfriend that he stopped seeing when he's seeing Tamara but then he's also got a fiance so I don't understand it like while he's seeing Tamar he's also got a fiance at the same time but like he's this is his girlfriend he goes

around with her I don't know what know what the field and stuff apparently he is. Yeah, this is Stephen Falkenberg FA Lk en berg Falkenberg he's born in 1974 Falkenberg is he's like a year younger in age than her. She's born in late 72 He grew up in Menominee, Michigan Menominee That's what as soon as I said that out loud,

Sara did that too yesterday. It's like. The Dr. Pepper commercial. Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of and then it was gone and then she said it. I was like, god damn it. Anytime anybody writes that on a return address, you gotta say that out loud.

Menominee. I think they probably do, if I'm being honest here. Is that the whole town? Just people with high meth voices going, bada-many, bada-many, bada-many. The postman just sings it all day. All day long, every fucking time he looks at an envelope. So that's where he grew up.

Now he has two kids by the time he meets Tamara. He's got Sebastian, and Marissa is, I guess, technically his stepdaughter from a previous marriage, but I think that he was around when they're young because later on she's just referred to as his daughter always. And she's around him long, I mean him and his, and her mother have been long divorced,

and she's still hanging around him, so must be something to that here. Now, Steven had a severe traumatic brain injury from a car accident in 1993. And he's a teenager here. Uh, he was 19 years old. He recovered from the accident though. You can tell looking at him that he was in a fucking accident. He's got sloth from Goonies eyes. He wears it on his face. He's got sloth from Goonies eyes. He wears it on his face. He's got sloth from Goonies eyes. You know, that's, you know, our one's a little higher than the other one.

And it looks like it's looking in another direction too. Like if they're, the eyes aren't, not only are they not even like, you know, across, but they're also not the same depth in his skull either. I don't know if they're not plumber flush or whatever the fuck the term is but I think it's both I think he's not plumber flush. I think he's oh I think it's all sorts of problems going on there. He's sloth from goonies mixed with sloth from I say Yeah, two of the different ones. He's got like kind of wild blonde hair and he's like He's an interesting guy man. He's a very interesting guy the way he's described and he doesn't do drugs. I think his brain injury is enough drugs for him. He's like, I see colors anyway.

I don't need to fucking deal with any of that shit. So he recovered from the accident and became, he got into the construction business and one of the few places that'll hire at sloth from the goonies is a construction site. They don't care. Yeah. As long as you can. Yeah, go ahead.

And he's a pretty big guy too. He's a six foot tall and stocky and big. And the strength of his is that he has is incredible that his son describes from him. Okay. His son Sebastian said that, you know, he could be, you know, he's kind of a wild guy sometimes and stuff like that, but he said he's also very non-confrontational. And he said that he never spanked the kids

or anything like that. He's not an angry, raging type individual in the house, which is good for a guy with a head injury, you know? It's nice. He said that he never showed any signs of violence toward him, anybody else in the family family or anybody that he's ever known Really? There's a never, you know heard of a story of his dad coming in the door pissed off because he had to knock a guy Out at the local bar or some shit never any of that stuff. Marissa said the same thing

She said that he always made it known. He was very proud of me and he was a good father he said she said that he wasn't abusive and never witnessed him getting into an argument with anybody or even an argument she never saw him get into with anybody. She said if anything, he was like non-confrontational. If you tried to start an argument with him, he would kind of diffuse it and go a different direction. He would diffuse it with calmness. That was the way he did things.

He is described, and this is funny as shit, he's described as a very physically powerful man. Very physically powerful. And I'll give you an instruction worker and I'll give you an example of the powerfulness that we're talking about here. His son, Sebastian, describes that he quote, uses his hands for everything all the time Yeah, she makes him sounds like he's just hitting people. That's what that sounds like, but it's not He and strength no no no he means for the purposes when he does his general contracting you

You know jobs and shit Pandonham pound and fucking nails his said quote, instead of using hammers, he would just pound the nail in with his hand. No he wouldn't! Several people said this from work. You can't do that! He was famous for it. He would pound nails in with his fucking hands! With his hands!

I can't believe it. It's- what the fuck is that? Can you imagine? No you With his hands have holes in your hand That's a fucking imagine how calloused your skin would have to be to be able to pound And you gotta do it. I assume the heel of your hand the heel. Yeah, you can't or the side with the side You want to those? Oh, are you punch it? Hulk pounded nail He you can't do that.

He's doing this in the 2010s. Bro, you could have famous YouTube. If there's a video of a fucking guy, imagine a video series of a guy going, I'm gonna build this whole house without a hammer. Who the fuck wouldn't watch that? Yeah, you can't. He would be so famous.

You know that guy on YouTube that pounds in fucking nails with his hands and just builds a whole house? It's crazy. You got to see that shit. He'd be a millionaire money He can afford a hammer. He just doesn't do it. He's a fucking owns his own contracting company But he does it because people it's a trick that he does and he says it's just it's more convenient to just use his hand Than to pick up a hammer and have to deal with that Wow, I really would wish this guy would be a YouTube sensation. Imagine like on TikTok, this guy would crush. Oh, he'd make so much money.

Imagine the views a guy would get. Just one nail, just pow, pow, pow, and be like, holy shit. There's a man that builds his own place in the desert. He's just super tattooed, does it with all tools, and people watch that shit. He's got a half pussy does it with all tools and he's got a pussy. Yeah Using hammers and nail gun. Oh out of here nail gun

This guy laughs if you throw a nail gun. He is a human nail gun. So that is insane He just pounded in with his hands. That's who we're dealing with here. Yeah now he doesn't do drugs He never really gets in trouble either. He does that sober? Sober! He doesn't do drugs, doesn't really drink much. He's got a head injury that apparently makes it easier for him to do these things. I don't know man. The only thing I could see him, find him getting in any trouble for was in 2007 he exceeded the speed limit by 20 miles an hour or more So he got in trouble for that and he pled guilty for that that was about it. So that's all we got He's got places to be so that this is our couple. Yeah, the human hammer and Like a social meth butterfly together

hammer and like a social meth butterfly together. It's a very odd couple. Two fascinating people. They're both extremely fascinating. That's, I mean, both these people, it's like I wanna know so much more. More fascinating couple doesn't exist. It really doesn't here. There is some turbulence in their relationship, okay?

Now a lot of people, like I said, everybody that knows Steve and Robert Falkenberg says that he's laid back and nonviolent. And there is, apparently, he's like fucking Bam Bam from the Flintstones. Like he doesn't know his own strength sometimes, apparently. Cause like there's a video of, in this video, Tamara is shown rubbing her right hip and

saying it still hurts, but like kind of laughy and says, Steve, you got to stop pushing me, she says. So apparently, he'll just like joke around, shove you and you'll fly through the drywall. Like it's one of those things. He's like, that's right. I'll hammer a new piece in right now. Don't worry about it. Yeah.

Give me a piece of drywall and five nails. Wow. So it's very interesting. Now Stephen's daughter Marissa said that her initial impressions of Tammy were positive but they kind of changed after that. She said that Tammy displayed strange behavior to the point that her father was occasionally afraid of her. Which is just meth, that's all it is here. Now, Sebastian, the son, Ross, Stephen's son, said that he never personally observed Tammy using meth, but that she could be, he knew that she could be prone to violence when she was intoxicated as well.

So, one guy here, Travis Peterson, who's a friend of Stevens, said that Tamara had a reputation in the whole community. She's only been there a couple years, but she had a reputation for being very violent and irrational when she's obviously on drugs. She's not rational, which again, it's meth. So I've never heard of anybody go, you know, the guy's kind of wild But you get him on some meth and he becomes very rational after that figures it all out really just take brings it all together So and uh, once this man said he observed an argument between the two at falconberg's shop You know his construction deal there where tam quote, wore herself out hitting Steven while he just smiled and laughed at

her a little. He's like, he's this giant guy. So she can't really hurt him physically with her fists. Basically. He's pounding nails in. He's adorable. He's a giant callous. This man, his whole body is a callous. Even his fucking head is all, you can't even make him uglier. There's no way to hurt this man his whole body is a callous even his fucking head is all met you can't even make him uglier there's no way to hurt this man's got nothing to lose June 7th 2016 okay Tamara has some problems here according to Brandon Frey who is a Yankton police officer this is what went down Tamara was quote intoxicated and out of control,

he put in his report. And this was, yeah, I don't know if it was alcohol. I believe it was alcohol and meth, possibly, together. He was called, the cop was called to the Rounding Third Bar, which is a really, you're just saying it. Come here and get laid is what that says. That's exactly what that says. Rounding Third, that's like.

About to get your dick in there is what that means. I mean that. Dick out. Yeah. What is third base? Is that fingering or is that like oral? I think nowadays it's oral. I think with the kids now it's oral.

When we were teenagers anything that resulted in you coming was considered a home run. That was home base. You won. if you came. If you came, yeah. Everything up to that. Yeah. Put one on the board. I'd say in any fashion, it didn't matter how it happened.

That wasn't the concern here. So rounding third sounds terrifying. It sounds like everyone's running out of there like taking their clothes off. Honestly. When the cop arrived, Tamara was being restrained by two people.

Wow. They were trying to like hold her down here. She made death threats against the officers who showed up. They were just trying to get her to leave and then she started making, I'll fucking kill all of you type shit to the cops. So they went, okay, well now we have to arrest her. She just threatened to kill cops. So. to kill cops so now she's getting arrested

Travis yeah come on Randy let's go let's go Billy Joel get on over here she then tried once they got her in the squad car and in the back and they're outside talking to people and getting statements she tried to kick the glass out of the squad car as well. She was laying there fucking kicking glass out and they had to hog tire and all that kind of shit. So she is having a day let's just say here. She refused to give a urine analysis and according to the report they had to arrange the urine analysis.

They had to get it without her cooperation via catheter at the hospital. Oh, Jesus. She was so uncooperative to the point where she would rather get catheterized. Catheterized, oh Jesus. Than just pee in the cup and tell them what's in there. Oh boy.

And a reason for that is because she's on probation, so she doesn't wanna give her pee. Yeah, and she's about to, yeah. And show that she's got meth in her system. So the cop said that she was intoxicated and out of control the entire time. Not just at the bar, not just in the car, at the hospital, at the jail, everywhere.

She just was losing her shit. It took four officers to hold her down. Four large people it took to hold down one petite woman because she had meth strength going on here for them to do the catheterization here. So she was arrested on drug charges and assault related charges also because she was just racking them up the whole time

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That's um That's a lot But I that was that's the most anybody's ever seen him like yell at her and that was literally while trying to get her a lawyer for her fucking violence tacking a guy with a garden out so Makes sense here. So she was convicted of ingestion of methamphetamine in 2016 and placed on probation in South Dakota She was required as a condition of her supervision to submit to regular and random urinalysis to ensure her ongoing sobriety

Sure her probation required her to check in daily with her probation officer. Oh, she's a problem She had to call every day. Yeah, and and see if He the probation officer wanted her drug tested that day. She had to call and go hi. I'm here Yeah, you know the pay for you still fight and he would do that and Tamara by the way for like a while here It seems like she does not have a working phone. Okay. She'll have like a phone that's not hooked up, or bill's not paid, that sort of thing here.

So because she didn't have a working phone, Stephen would make the calls for her to the call in number to determine if she'd been selected to test that day. You call, you enter your inmate. Yeah, and they tell you whether you won the lottery or not that day. You call, you enter your inmate, yeah, and they tell you whether you won the lottery or not that day. So, 2017, now like I said, everybody, you know, has all these stories of him being nonviolent and her attacking him, even Tamara attacking Steven. The only time ever anybody ever saw anything was a 2017 brief encounter with his ex-wife Jennifer Becker

Which there was no physical, you know problems There was no punches thrown or anything, but it was enough of a heated exchange that cops were called to physically separate them No one was arrested or anything like that, but they were told to go their separate ways So and that was their divorced already who knows what the hell they were told to go their separate ways. So and that was their divorce already who knows what the hell they were arguing about or what happened or no idea. So March 1st 2019 this is the day that the last time that Mary talks to Tamara here. 2019 did I say 15? No 19. 19. All right. So Tamara was scheduled to finish her shift at work as a machine operator at the trailer place there.

That is so fascinating. Her shift ends at 2 a.m. Oh, boy. Second shift, which is the worst. Third, man, isn't it? I think third is overnight. I don't know. I think 2 a.m., they close.

I think it's a 24 hour place though. Oh you might be right. Somebody might be working two to 10. When my dad worked third shift, it was like 10 a.m. to six in the morning, or 10 p.m. to six in the morning or some shit I remember back in the day when I was a little kid. So I think it's different.

I'll bet somebody's working two to 10. Someone, yeah. 10 to six, six to two. Probably, or they have them overlap a little. Maybe, who knows, whatever. So now just before midnight, while she's still at work, Tamara gave her debit card to Javier Gonzalez, a coworker who was getting off of his shift.

So yeah, they probably overlapped them, so everybody doesn't come on and get off at the same time. Sure. She said, hey, before you go home, do me a solid, take my debit card, and go grab beer for me from Walmart before their liquor sales end for the evening. Yeah. So I'm going to get out too late to get me a taste.

So or too early. Yeah. So he ran to the store. He did. He ran to the Walmart. He put the beer and the receipt and her debit card in a male coworkers pickup truck. Sure. So he could just stop in the parking lot, not have to go in.

So now because she has no phone still for years, she borrowed a friend's phone at work around 1.30 a.m. to call her mother in New Mexico. She's really getting a lot done. No kidding. Buy beer, call my mom, fucking make some trailers. What are you doing here? Put the hitch together. What are you doing here?

It's happening so tamar and her mother were very close and they spoke on the phone just about every day So this is an expected thing and it's earlier in New Mexico. So this is normal now Steven picks her up from work at about 2 a.m his Ford f-250 pickup picks her up there and To take her to her apartment because her vehicle was in the shop at the time anyway First though Falkenberg drives to Walmart at her request so she could get an alarm clock Apparently she doesn't have an alarm clock

So her phone isn't just not hooked up. I think it's broken probably. I don't think it exists. Yeah. She got mad and threw it through someone's windshield or something. So she was seen at 2 17 a.m. coming out of the Yankton Walmart with Walmart with an alarm clock and two bags of chips. Okay. Walmart surveillance video shows her exiting the store and getting into Steven's pickup truck with an open bed, mind you, nothing covering the pickup truck, no cat, no anything and driving by. So there we go. That's where we see them.

They drive off. And, uh, the video at Walmart is just before she entered the store. You see his pickup and you see her get out, and then she gets into the pickup when she leaves. And surveillance, that's all surveillance footage here. The plant manager, where she works, said that she left work at 2 a.m., never returned. He also got surveillance footage from the plant

that shows Tamara getting into a pickup truck, which was Falconburg's at the end of her shift. Now later on that day, because this is Friday, March 1st, is 2 a.m. on March 1st, later on that day, she's supposed to be at the Humane Society and working a shift. Oh boy.

And she never shows up at the Humane Society, which is odd for her. So Mom is looking for her now. She can't find her. She tried to call Tamara on March 2nd and couldn't get ahold of her, which is the next day. So after that, she started texting Stephen to try to contact her daughter.

Because she's like, you know, and you never know. That's the thing. If your kid has a drug problem, you never know if they're just what they're doing. They could be in trouble, or they could be just off on a drug jag and they don't want to talk or they could There's a lot of different things. So he she contacts Stephen to you know Fucking figure it out because she knows she knows they're dating Stephen said that he doesn't have any idea where she is

Tamara meaning but said that he and Tamara had a verbal disagreement at her apartment on the morning of March 1st after he went to her apartment to tell her that she didn't have to test today. Okay. Cause he called up and showed up and was like, Hey, you don't have to do your test today. She told him to leave. Is what Steven said. Now he said, listen, I think she was just like that because of lack of sleep. I don't think she, she hadn't slept all night. So she was just tired, I think she was just like that because of lack of sleep. I don't think she she hadn't slept all night So she was just tired. I think but

Now her mom Mary still can't contact her So she texted falcon Berg again on March 4th to say any update here. Have you seen Tamara? He said he hadn't seen her but he had he said but I've got on my own shit going on So I haven't been looking for He said he's been dealing with doctors all day. Oh He said he he feel the other day meaning fell the other day Feel the other day and my finger hurt Feel that makes it sound like he felt something in his finger. That's a weird statement. It got

Yeah, maybe that's all it's what it is. fingers were in heavy use at that point he said it got swollen the the hand so bad I had to go to the doctor end up breaking two fingers so now I dealt with not a surgeon but bone doctor today that's his response I don't think she cares about any of that shit that's the kind of guy that slaps fucking nails through boards though isn't it? Yeah, he's just telling you all the shit and he's like, she's like, I just asked where my daughter was, I don't give a shit. So Mary said she understood feel to mean fell and she subsequently asked, is she alive to Steven?

What? Is she alive to Steven? Is she alive? And he replied, she was when I left. And said, she was when I left. What is the appropriate answer for is that person alive? If you haven't talked to her. Jesus, I hope so. Why would you ask me that? Okay, that must be it because my response was,

I fucking hope so. I would hope so. But then I thought maybe that would be considered, why would you have to hope so. I would hope so. But then I thought maybe maybe that would be considered. Why would you have to hope so? You know what I mean? I don't know. But my immediate response would be I fucking hope she's alive. Yeah, I don't know. I haven't talked to her, but I hope that didn't kill her. Me not talking to her for a couple days. All the best. Jesus. And so he said that, yes, she was when I left and then asked Mary to keep him informed if if you informed if Mary comes up with Tamara

somewhere. Let me know if she's alive and well. So she's got to keep looking. So she does. She contacts Tamara's son, Ron, to check in on Tamara as Mary's becoming worried and she can't do shit from Albuquerque, which has really got to be frustrating. Ron, like we said earlier, had his spare key to his mother's apartment and searched for her there, but could not find her there at all.

So he continued to check her apartment twice per day. And the one thing he always saw that he didn't like seeing was that there's a bag that she always carried with her when she was out, and that was still in her apartment. She's got her going out bag. It's still home. and that was still in her apartment. She's got her going out bag. It's still home. And it's still in the apartment. She's gone out. She's gone.

And the problem is she has no goddamn phone so the cops can't do location checks, they can't see when it was last active, social. There's nothing you can do to find her. This is like she went missing in 1982 at this point. Which is so rare I have some some apps on the on the phones. I can look at where my kids are Absolutely, you know exactly there's also we've really gone a long way with that police work Now is half check the cell phone company first

Find out where they were who they talked to when we'll look through all that and then figure out what to investigate because you can Get a you know kind of an outline of what's going on here. Up to and including what apps are on their phones and what's linked to their bank account. We can see where the fuck they are. Where they are. See what they're spending. Yeah, it's incredible now what you can do.

Oh, they fucking put a Facebook post up from Omaha. You know what I mean? You can tell. Yeah. They got an Uber from this place to this place. Yeah. I know where they're at. It's not like.

It's not, but she's basically like, she's living in the 1982. Like she's paying with cash and no phone and living in another universe here. So he couldn't find her. He continued to check though, Ron, and that's all he found was the bag. So March 5th at 2.53 p.m. is when Mary finally reports

her missing to the police. I feel like, I know what, it's a little late, but I get it. I get it from Mary. Think about it. She's got a daughter who has had a drug problem for a good amount of time now. Yeah, but she's not unreliable with the drug problem.

No, but I think over the course of the last 15 to 20 years or so when this, probably 15 years this drug problem has been a thing, Tamara's disappeared for a couple days now and then I think. I think she's disappeared and then come home a few days later, probably often I would dare to say. Just because of the drugs, that's what happens. Give her three, four days, 72 hours,

and we'll start calling her out. We'll start calling. So March 5th is like, okay, that's about enough now, where, you know, all of that. And especially with the son finding the bag there, and she didn't like that. So, yeah, she tells the cops, haven't talked to her since I talked to her at work

four days ago, and that's when she said, the only thing I can tell you is that she is in a relationship, because they were like, does she have a boyfriend, because that's the first thing you look for, or an ex-boyfriend even better, and she said she has kind of a turbulent relationship with Steven Falkenberg. So, obviously he's the first person they wanna talk to,

because they go to her work too, and they said, well, the video shows this guy picking her up. So, there you go. So Deputy Darren Moser interviews him and Falkenberg said he had just got back from Michigan. Oh. Here on the fifth when they talked to him. And he was working in his shop.

And yeah, they show up at his shop and he's like, yeah, I just got back from Michigan, and they said, when's the last time you talked to her? And he said, the morning of the first. The deputy noticed he had a soft cast on his right hand. Which, that's a big nail, it must have been. He also noticed, big one, he was trying, he was like, he's laying track, that's the problem.

All the live long day, look at this hand. He's a big one. He was trying he was like he's laying track. That's the problem Day look at this hand He's like a cartoon character this guy Is blutus yeah, whatever the fuck it was yeah bluedo Yeah, bluedo and Brutus. What who's Brutus who's Brutus? I don't know That that was I thought that know. Is he from Popeye? I thought that was Brutus. I thought that was Brutus. Was Popeye. I think Brutus was Mickey Mouse bad guy. Beefcake maybe? Yeah, I think it was. So he's got a soft cast on his right hand. The officer also notices several baseball bats located in the corner of the shop that are covered in dust cobwebs and shit on them. So this cop leaves the shop and

with the other officers, they go to Tamra's apartment, which is only a block away from the shop, by the way, small town, very convenient. He looked around. They did a general look around and nothing. There's nothing out of place. There's no doesn't look like it's been rifled through. Drawers aren't open with shit strewn. Not seeing any noticeable anything broken, knocked over. There's not a pool of blood on the living room carpet. It just looks like somebody left their apartment. So they have nothing, no suspicious anything right now.

But later on, he said he reviewed the photos of the apartment. Because when you're in a strange place you've never been before, it is impossible to notice everything. You don't know what's missing, because it's not there. Yeah, and you're just taking in everything,

so there's a lot of stuff you might miss, because I think that's why they have those escape rooms, because you're in an uncomfortable environment that's not yours, so your brain isn't working right. Cause later on when he reviewed the photos that he took, he showed, he noticed an overturned lamp in one of the rooms that he didn't see when he was walking. He took a picture of it, but didn't see it when it happened. Later on he saw it on the, on the photo. So a special agent with the Dakota South Dakota department of criminal

investigation said that his department recovered five baseball bats from Falconburg shop and that he does observe them in an undisturbed state covered with dust. And later on this will make sense but no bats no baseball bats are found in Tamra's apartment. Okay now they said the police do when they first approached Stephen the day after she was reported missing he said he last saw her around 8 15 a.m. on March 1st when they had coffee in her apartment and she told him to quote get the fuck out. He's like so I haven't been since you know get the fuck out. It's pretty strong He later said that though later on he says I actually I picked her up That that morning that I had picked her up earlier

He said I dropped her off at her apartment during the early morning hours, and that's when he later on was like Oh, I did go back though. I did go back Several times by the way. Really? Yeah. Before the coffee. He said on his first trip, he arrived about 6 a.m. and he told the cops that he knocked on the door and heard an alarm clock ringing as he was knocking. Oh, she had it going off. She hooked it up and you know, got it going. He received no answer but so he just left because he doesn't have a key and she doesn't have a phone. So if you knock and she doesn't come to the door,

it's like, well, that's all I got. So he said he returned a second time at approximately 8.15. That time she answered the door, had coffee with him, and told him to get the fuck out, obviously. So he said that she became angry at him and demanded he leave, told him to get the fuck out, and he said that he did. He just threw his hands up and said fine,

and he said that was the last time he had any contact with her was that morning. Okay. Now, Stephen's fiance enters the picture here. Yeah. I don't know who she is here, but this is, yeah, Stephen's fiance's coworker says that for the last few days, because they're talking to her on like March 6th,

she said for a few days, she babysat his dogs while he traveled back from Michigan around the same time that Tamar had gone missing. So he's been out of town, that's that we know. So where the fuck was he after this? Where? Okay, well Cindy Roberts, who is a convenience store clerk who knows Tamara and Stephen, said that Stephen filled his truck with fuel at the store on March 1st in the

early afternoon. She noticed the truck bed was covered. Which she had never seen his truck bed covered before. Because normally he had his dogs in the back of his truck. His dogs ride in the truck bed. So today the truck bed is covered up. And she was like, that's weird. Enough for her to notice it. That's, you know, interesting. So she also noticed that he had a swollen right hand at the time. So this person asked Stephen about his hand. Interesting. So she also noticed that he had a swollen right hand at the time

So this person asked Stephen about his hand. He told her he injured it by What do you think? Slapping nails Punching an icicle Which is how you're supposed to get rid of them. I believe right? That's what they tell you get the icicles off your house Just punch them which is fucking interesting and this is all it's not the wrong time he was there it's definitely early afternoon noon on the first because they have surveillance video and everything of him in the store so he left Yankton Yankton and started driving in the

direction of Michigan where he used to live here now his half-brother Paul still lived in the area in Menominee, Menominee County, and owned a farm nearby, and Falkenberg's mother also lived in Menominee. He's headed that direction. But later that evening on the 1st, Falkenberg checks into a hotel in Tomah, Wisconsin,

which we've done an episode about Tomah, Wisconsin, which is directly along the route from Yankton to Menominee. All right. This night there's a reason why probably he stopped. It's very icy snowy and windy outside. Not a good night for driving. So it's a great night to be punching icicles. It's perfect. Yeah this is what there's gonna be so many to punch. That's icicle punching weather right there. The hotel clerk that checked him in noticed that he used his left hand to sign paperwork because it was swollen right hand.

Right. So he could tell he wasn't left handed. You know, he was right and fucking goofy. So he ends up, even though it's cold and icy and snowy out, he goes and sits in the hot tub and chills, does Stephen, and he has food delivered to him to the hot tub. So probably order Domino's or something, whatever. Has some food delivered to his hot tub or he sat like a king and ate his food. Sick day.

So then he continued from Tomah toward Michigan. Later that day he arrived in Michigan on the 2nd. That's when he sought medical assistance for his hand injury. It's like this isn't getting better, fuck. During his first visit, medical records indicate that Falkenberg attributed his injury to punching an icicle. All right, then he saw a second medical provider

on March 4th. During the second appointment, he reported he injured his hand when he braced for a fall on ice with a clenched fist. So he fell on his fist, basically. reported he injured his hand when he braced for a fall on ice with a clenched fist. So he fell on his fist, basically. Big icicle, it's all over the ground. Yeah, boom, bow, everywhere. So he was seen by two physicians

and an occupational therapist and had several x-rays taken on his hand before it was placed in a cast. And that's where we found him later on. Now, here's something interesting that happened in Menominee. Michael Leverich, who's a manager for an automotive sales and repair business in Menominee, said that on March 4th, the same day where he was seeing those other doctors and saying he fell on the ice instead of punched it, Falkenberg showed up at this guy's job and

this guy knew Falkenberg because he saw him a couple times a year and talked to him. You know, when he did, he knew the family. It's a small town. So Falkenberg said he was driving his mother's car at the time. This guy said that Stephen seemed real nervous and then asked to use the business's dumpster. Which if someone's real nervous and then asks you to use their dumpster, maybe no. Or go look in that dumpster after they leave. See what they did.

Something, because that's weird. He said he had a small amount of garbage in his mother's car because I'd been driving around for a few days and he wanted to jump it all out before he... Now, it's also odd. If you had like some McDonald's rappers and like a you know a fucking large fucking Pepsi cup or some shit in your car would you ask someone if you could use their dumpster for that or would you just throw it in there? It's just paper products yeah I would say can I throw

out this fucking 73 El Camino engine can I use your dumpster for that because otherwise that's gonna take up some space Can I use it for my love seat that I'm not using anymore? So he does that and the guy said he reluctantly allowed it means I guess you can use my dumpster I mean shit really this guy's a real fucking dumpster Nazi here. Let me use your dumpster What the hell but he said he didn't observe what Stephen placed in the dumpster and didn't check up on it either Okay, later on though. He'll contact the sheriff's department about it He said he didn't observe what Stephen placed in the dumpster and didn't check up on it either. Okay. Later on though, he'll contact the sheriff's department about it.

Now Stephen continues to not know anything about where Tamar is according to him. He says he has no idea what's going on. So that's when a deputy obtained surveillance footage from the Walmart and photographs of several people. But the footage doesn't really do much because he said that they did that. That wasn't really disputed. He didn't say, I didn't pick her up from work. He said, I picked her up from work,

took her to Walmart, dropped her off, came at six, came at eight. So that doesn't help that much, but still it's a timeline you're building now. Then the deputy returned to Falkenberg's shop and asked Falkenberg about a photograph of an individual named Javier, who had used Tamara's debit card to purchase beer. Do you know this guy?

Because at this point she's just missing and some guy has her debit card. That's a suspect. Certainly. Yeah. For sure. So yeah, the Falkenberg tells the deputy that he did not know this guy, but he said he was suspicious that Tamara could be involved with another man besides him and that quote maybe that's the male that she's

going to see. Maybe that's where she is. Maybe she's off you know hanging out with that guy. So Sebastian Stephen's son asked his dad if he'd seen Tamara to which he replied that he had quote no idea what happened to her. I have no idea what happened to her, I don't know. Marissa, his daughter, same thing, sent him a text message after hearing

that Tamara was missing to see if he knew where she might be staying and he responded that he quote, couldn't think about it right now. It's just too much to even consider. I'm overwhelmed. It's just difficult, yeah, couldn't think about it. So this keeps going on for another 10 days. Where's Tamara?

I don't know. Where do you think? I don't know. Where's she? Has this one seen her? Nobody's seen her. It's too much for me. Yeah, my hands throbbing.

It's too much. I can't even pound nails with my right hand now. This is crazy. So March 16th, 2019. This is off the number five road in Menominee Township Number five road tells you that's rural is what that is Yeah, not enough people live around there to even bother naming it after one of them There's so few roads out here. It's numbered and single digits. Yeah, that's the other thing too. Yeah single digit road here It's numbered and single digits. Yeah, that's the other thing too. Yeah single digit road here

This is right over the little river in Menominee Township And when I say the little river it is a little fucking river Like you picture a river you picture something Big it's a I pictured like the Hudson. You know what I mean Mississippi the Missouri the Idaho the snake Yes, this river at least in this area smaller, is less wide than the creek behind my house. Oh. Yeah, which is a pretty good sized creek, don't get me wrong. But it's not a river.

You know what I mean? This is a river though. This is called the Little River in Menominee Township. There's two boys walking a dog. How American is that? Two boys with a dog walking down the number five road. They's two boys walking a dog. How American is that? Two boys with a dog walking down the number five road. They're going to throw a stick. He's going to catch it and run it back to them. It's just, you can see it. They got cut off shorts and like

carrying an apple and chewing on a thing of hay. It's a Norman Rockwell picture. Going to stick. Yeah. Baseball gloves on their hands. Ready to go catch a sandlot game there. Some shit like that. So anyway, that's what they're doing. They're walking, having an all American day when they look over the bridge into the river and they see what looks like a person in the river. The river is frozen by the way. So this is sitting on top of the

ice. It looks like a face down human being with it with tattoos on their torso. So these kids take the dogs and run back home to get an adult. Luckily here and they go get one of the dads here. Gregory Thorsten Westby. He found, he goes over and finds what he says is a nude tattooed torso of a small woman lying on top of the ice in the Little River near his home. So this area is very wooded and really nobody lives there. It's unpopulated as shit. So this guy went to the spot the boys identified, saw the body on the ice right below the bridge here and called the cops, obviously here. So a detective from the Menominee County Sheriff's Office responds and saw that the body is not only decapitated, but also missing its hands and feet.

What? Yes, like the Russian guy from The Wire killed them. Yeah. You know what I mean? This is wild. That's like a mob hit. In the Dakotas? That's not a place that that happens.

No, especially at the Little River in Menominee off the number 5 road. That's fucking crazy. So the detective had received a bulletin from South Dakota mentioning a missing person with tattoos. So he said, I wonder if this is that person that's missing from South Dakota. So they recover the body out here. This body, by the way, is located 1.4 miles

from Stephen's Half Brothers property, which is a little too close, I would say. If you were like, if you knew, if you were at her apartment in South Dakota and then her body ends up a mile from your brother's house in Michigan, which is a 10 hour drive by the way. Right, right. A little too coincidental I think at that point, I would say. So they're number one trying to find her hands and feet and head.

That's a big priority here. Her hands, feet and head are never recovered. Is that right? Never, never, never recovered. They never find them. That's horrible. So yeah, during this time, the Yankton County Sheriff's Sergeant here

was looking for Tamara, knowing that Tamara had a romantic relationship with Falkenberg, who had family in Michigan. That's why he sent this missing person report to the Menominee Law Enforcement on the chance that maybe she went there, because he has connections there. And he sent basically missing person reports to Albuquerque, to Menominee, to anywhere

where she might have connections, Sacramento, anything like that, friends, anywhere she might have visited. So an investigator who responded called a nationwide, recalled a nationwide law enforcement bulletin about a missing person. So they said that as well and said, yeah, that led to people contacting the officials in Yankton. They said that the divers also searched the river for several hundred yards downstream to determine if there were any other evidence that might be in the river.

And they didn't find anything. So they photographed the body after it was removed from the frozen creek bed and testified that they observed tool markings and horizontal striations on the bones where the head, hands and feet had been cut off. Somebody used power tools on this. Somebody put a circular saw on this. I don't mean this bitch there.

I meant like use a circular saw for this shit. That's fucked this poor girl. Oh my God. Our poor woman. Jesus Christ. So the doctor, when they get them in confirmed that there were tool markings on Tamra's body, evident around the cut surfaces on the neck and forearms and feet. Now they have to, so at this point they have no facial recognition here. They have no fingerprints

to run. So luckily tattoos are a really good form of kind of identification at this point. A lot of people are being identified by tattoos and this helps a lot. They found tattoos on different areas of the body. The right forearm was a deck of playing cards. Left shoulder a cross, left forearm a puma, the upper left part of the back an eagle on a branch, the upper right part of the back three hearts with wings and left ankle area a spider web and right calf a banner. I don't know what the banner said but a banner of some kind. So that's her general tattoo.

So people if they knew what her tattoos are it's probably not nobody else with that combination of tattoos. You know what I mean? So yeah, it's less than a mile and a half from the farm which is very interesting so Falkenberg hears that the she's been found he drove to meet with his son and daughter Sebastian and Marissa after that and he to tell her tell them a story that he has basically he talks about that he says that she was cheating on him and then it goes from there.

So we'll get to that. The autopsy performed. The chief medical examiner for Fond du Lac County, Wisconsin, this guy performed the autopsy. He said his examination revealed that Tamara's body was frozen no more than two days after her death and dismemberment After and oh, I'm sorry was frozen no more than two days after her death and dismembered after she was frozen She was ice she was frozen then dismembered then dumped in the creek

Oh Boy and frozen re kind of stayed frozen out there. Yeah So he said he formed this conclusion because the body despite its missing parts still contained blood in the vessels Which shows she didn't lose a lot of blood when she was killed bleed. Yeah, but she still had all of her blood in her body So that means that she was frozen in there. So an external exam was conducted, the body was allowed to thaw and 24 hours later he performed an internal exam. They had to Frankie Carbone him, they had to let the body thaw.

Blood oozing from the stumps left behind from her dismemberment indicated she'd been dismembered after being frozen. The fact that there was so much blood still in the body Indicated that she'd not lost very much blood at the time of her death There was also no evidence of trauma to her remains and her heart and organs were all in excellent health Even though she did meth a lot, which is crazy They said that's just not fair. That's not fair fair later on they call her heart remarkably healthy and I'm like, oh fuck you. 47 years old doing meth all the time, your heart's remarkably healthy?

I'm going to see a specialist. Jesus Christ. Every time I eat a cheeseburger I'm grabbing for my fucking, I'm grabbing for my chest later on that night just in case. Am I going to get pains? What's going on? I'm going to die tonight. I can't believe this. It's just unbelievable.

Fucking unbelievable, right? There's, god damn it. Maybe we should have done meth. There's no justice in the world, man. We should do meth maybe. Maybe that'll help. Shit, man. So the fact that she was dismembered and dumped

required the doctor to determine the cause of death as homicide by unspecified means. But they said. I have no idea how she died. Must have been something done to her head because I don't have that. And everything else is fine. That's the only other place.

They also showed that she had 350 nanograms per milliliter of methamphetamine in her blood as well. So she was on meth when she was killed. So she probably heard she didn't have to test that day and that was that. Got after her, sure. So the same day that the body was found, that's when Falkenberg called his son Sebastian

to arrange a meeting with Sebastian and Marissa at Marissa's house around 10 p.m. During the meeting, he explained he needed to go to Michigan and talk to the cops, but I wanted to talk to you first, he says, listen, you're the but I wanted to talk to you first, he says, listen, you're the kids, wanted to talk to you first. So Sebastian said that Stephen told them that he confronted Tamara at her apartment

on the morning of March 1st. He said when he arrived, she was dressed up, as he put it. She was dressed up and there were empty beer cans in the trash Now His thing is he asked her if she was cheating on him now meanwhile She had a she had beer For her. So I mean that could have been that he stated that he had they had argued

During this about Her him accusing her of cheating and she got upset about that So she's or he says that she grabbed a bat And came at him. That's why there was no bats found in her apartment. We found out So she grabbed a bat and then he explained how he had to defend himself so sebastian said that, Stephen told him that, Stephen said he pushed Tamara away, just shoved her away, and quote, she hit the wall and that was it. That was his quote that Stephen said.

She hit the wall and that was it. Which is a real hard into the wall. That's like a nail. There's nothing we could do. There was nothing we could do. So he said he admitted he pushed her and knowing right away that she was dead. You know how hard you have to push somebody to kill them? Yeah. An adult healthy person.

Yeah. Hear their body break and then yeah. Rumble to the ground. Fucking meth won't kill her, but no, a one shove does. Wow. Marissa asked, was it self defense or what the fuck? And he said, yeah, it was self defense. Tamara got a bat that I was afraid of. I didn't want to get hit by a bat, so I shoved her.

And that's what happened. Now Marissa acknowledges that she will tell different stories to the cops at a grand jury and then at a trial later that she will say that she didn't tell the grand jury that her stepfather said that he was hit with a bat the first time, she said that later. So knowing that the body was found in Michigan and was dismembered, Marissa was like,

okay, that doesn't, shoving her doesn't tell me how her head would fall off and she'd end up 10 hour drive from here. How does that work? She hit the drywall so hard her head and hands and feet popped off. Popped off. You see people's shoes fall off when they're hit real hard?

Sometimes their feet'll just come right off. Wow. So when asked here, she said, quote, this is what she asked her stepfather, what's with the cutting situation? Which is maybe the weirdest way you could ask that question I mean it's a way to minimize the shit out of it what's a stranger way to ask that than the cutting situation and that's fucking weird I guess your inventory you're trying to be like yeah you're trying to be like, yeah, you're trying to be like tip toe around it.

And that would be just, how do I ask this? What's with the cutting situation happening to body on ice? What's the river woman? You just start saying words. What's the trimming schedule? Yeah, what are you doing there? And Marissa said that Stephen said

it involved her identity. So he admitted to her that he dismembered her to try to hide her identity. Keep that away from me. Marissa said, well, what did you do with the tools you used? Like, what's going on with that? And he said that basically just told her that they're gone, gone, just gone. There's nothing they could do. Nothing we could do.

So, like Joe Pesci. His answers are just as bizarre as the questions. It's what I mean, they're weird questions, weird answers. So, yeah, so Marissa said that Falkenberg did not know what to do, so he drove around on county roads and then decided to drive to Michigan. He's leaving out freezing someone, then fucking dismembering them. Which is so calculated. Frozen then dismembered. So, wow, she says that he said that he advised that he put had

Tamara's body near their farm in Michigan. Marissa states her brother Sebastian had somehow learned that Tamara's body was dismembered. So that's when she brought up the dismemberment. And, you know, she said that she didn't know how Sebastian knew that Tamara had been dismembered, but he knew. So Marissa advised, Falkenberg told her that he got rid of the tools and that he wore gloves when he dismembered Tamara. So he's just spilling it all. Tools are gone. Well, yeah, it's like, I don't want you to hear this on the news. So check this out. I killed my girlfriend and fucking cut her up. So there's that accident though. Sorry. Wow. March 18th,

2019 here, uh, they do a full search warrant of Tamaraora's apartment and find a this is when they find this the initial search they didn't do this when they go through it with luminol and shit they find what is later determined to be Tamora's blood on the west wall of the entryway of the apartment oh boy they find some blood spatter so that's not great obviously so they're gonna go ahead and arrest Stephen here. Doesn't matter what he says he did. He cut a woman up after he killed her.

There's a splash in your voice. Not great. So the chief assistant prosecutor in Menemonee County said that the charges against him have not been filed in Michigan, because they were like, oh, here? He's like, no, no, no, we sent him away. He said, it's believed that the murder occurred

in South Dakota, so that's where the prosecution for the crime will take place He said we're still conducting a very thorough and elaborate investigation here And if at some point additional charges are warranted here, those will be evaluated and pursued And that's the other thing is like disposal of a corpse is another charge But can you charge that in South Dakota if it's a continuation of that crime or do you have to charge that in Michigan? Yeah, cuz I work the state line with a dead body. Yeah, which should be illegal anyway. No bringing corpses in your trunk in our state. That should be, that would probably help.

States do that. You can be able to get a guy. I don't even like when somebody dies in a state and all the family plot is in another and they fly it back home. That gives me the heebie-jeebies. And I know that they do that shit with commercial flights. So sometimes, James, when we're flying places, there's a dead body on board. Oh yeah.

My grandmother flew all the way from Arizona to here. Don't like it. What's the other option? Be buried in fucking Arizona? God damn it. Please. Put her ass on a train. I don't know. I don't like I'm saying this publicly I don't really care what you do with me when I die, but do not bury me in Arizona. That's all I ask

I'll be so miserable. I hate it so much the fucking dry in the dirt. I can't do it. Yeah, I don't mean no Can't do it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the answer is, but I don't like traffic They should just put it on like a train, you know, but I don't like traffic. Maybe they should just put it on like a train. But that would take like days, that's the problem. By the time it gets there, it might be no good anymore. Grandma's a bit gamey, sorry about that. Jesus. Blame Amtrak.

It's weird though. I don't know. They should pick up the pace. Wisman didn't want her on the Delta flight. That's what it is. Wissman didn't want her on the 215 to fucking, on the 215 to Detroit. So guess what? Sorry. Sorry. So yeah, the officials encouraged Menominee area citizens to be on the lookout for anything suspicious, you know, like a head or a random foot or anything like that that you see.

Holy shit, yeah, they said that they're vigilant right now, but the whole body has not been recovered. Falkenberg is arrested and charged with a complaint of second-degree murder here right away. South Dakota Highway Patrol trooper here, who was also a volunteer cadaver dog handler with the Brookings County canine search and rescue team, had his certified dog Ninja, that's the dog's name, perform a free air sniff of Falkenberg's truck, which just sounds

like a fun time for a dog. Just parade around and get some sniffs in. Get in there and huff that truck, buddy. Come on, you can just see the dog sniffing in the air. Yeah, get it in, sniff all that air. Free air sniff. The dog indicated positively to the presence of human remains near the driver's door at the seam of the truck where the cab and bedder joined.

Okay. Not good. What does that tell you? She was in there. She was in his cab of his truck, or right in the back, pushed up toward the front of the bed. Yeah, right. Yeah, so they then wanna search the dump in Menominee because once the body's found, the guy at the shop who let Steven use his dumpster

starts going, oh shit, and calls the cops and went, the guy who murdered people with a, you know, missing head and hands and all that, he used my dump my dumpster yeah let's hope the head wasn't in there he said he had a little bit of litter yeah yeah more than a little bit so the detectives and other law enforcement officers conduct a two-day search of the local landfill of Menominee oh gross huh they end up recovering They actually find they actually find the shit you believe that They find that grid system that they have set up. It's pretty incredible. It's it's really amazing. It's wild So they recover several pieces of clothing including a yellow and gray Columbia coat that belonged to her

a black sequined hat white pants and a Harley Davidson shirt and it's we don't know Tamara's friend Jennifer said that she occasionally sold Tamara clothing and that was her stuff she identified the Columbia coat and the Harley shirt as items she sold to Tamara Tamara's daughter as well, Sydney, said that she was with her mother when she bought the black sequin hat from a thrift store and that the white pants were similar

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To listen ad-free, join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app. What a nightmare. So the reactions around town are obviously mixed. Steven's chiropr obviously, you know, mixed. Steven's chiropractor, Larry Jones, who's popped his neck in and out, said first of all you can't believe that somebody that you know that well would do something like this. So I've known him for more than 20 years, this guy. He said he's such a good guy.

I had a fire in my office. You know who came and helped me rebuild? Steven. Steven did. That's what a good guy said. He was... He slapped it together. He didn't even need tools. I was going out to the truck to get tools.

He's... He had two by fours already in place. Literally slapped it together. Slapped it. He said, he was always a friend of mine. I still consider, I don't know if this happened or not, but I feel sorry for him and especially for her Which is I just yeah, what do you say at that point?

Holy shit the officials here. Who is this? This is one of the Prosecutors said quote there have been some frankly gory details that have been released in this case and I think it's important to remember that there's a human aspect to this case too and That is that mrs. Oh, miss laframboise was the daughter of a woman, her mother who still lives in New Mexico. She's the mother of two young adult children. They said if you're a praying person, I'd urge you to consider keeping their family in mind over the next difficult days and weeks and months. They not only have to deal with the loss of their loved one, but the progress of the criminal

case. Sure. Yeah, you're dealing with both a lot. So an old friend here of Tamara's here, Dennis Pasika, Pasika said she had such a bright face and was always smiling. She was the last person you would expect to get caught up in something like this. I haven't actually seen her in over 30 years, but to me Haven't seen her since the ninth grade, but I you know back Then I said she's the last person who's gonna be on meth and murdered in South Dakota and thrown in a creek in Menominee, right? That's that's a wild thing to say he said but to me that would all probably hold true that she's still like that

Okay, another woman here who kept in touch through Facebook, so apparently she had a Facebook account at one point, said, this is just horrible. She was a lot of fun, so upbeat and happy always, bubbly and outgoing and not shy by any means. And she said, I'm just devastated by the news and frankly, everything that's come out. She said, I heard the name and it caught my attention. My stomach just went upside down and I said, oh my God. And then they said it looked like foul play

and they were right, obviously. Tamara's mom here, finally, I mean, she was the one who started the whole search, said she, you know, Mary, she wishes that something would have, she at least wants some answers from Stephen basically. She said, I think we could truly move forward maybe more quickly if he would just tell us where he put her hands and feet and her head so we can rest. Yeah, help us out, man.

He said, she is not at peace. We had a memorial service, but in our way, you're not at peace unless your whole body is there. Yeah. Because they're native also. unless your whole body is there. Yeah. Because they're native also. So that's part of it. That's a certain, there's a certain way that has to go. Yeah.

And without the parts it doesn't work like that. So then there's some jail conversations here that two jail conversations between Stephen and his visitors at the county jail. During a visit with his ex-girlfriend, Terry Thurman, first of all, okay, let's say your ex-girlfriend, not the mother of your children or the father of your children or whatever the fuck, your ex is arrested for this murder.

Murdering their current partner and beheading them and dumping them in a creek 10 hours away. Are you going to visit that motherfucker in jail? I don't think so. I'm going, dodged a bullet there, never talking to that guy again. And I'm telling everybody I know about that shit. Remember that guy? He fucking killed it.

I remember I told you, I told you he was a nut. Remember? He killed the lady, his fucking girlfriend there. So he mentioned that weird stuff, weird stuff happened in Michigan the other day. As this was on April 9th, 2019, he said this. He said, not good, not good at all, huh? Not good at all for me.

So that's what he said. He said that the following day, he told two friends during a jail visit that they're doing some weird stuff in Michigan. Oh, we don't talk about it, but it's not good. That's when they were doing autopsies and finding the causes of death and all that kind of shit.

It's not good because they were finding evidence against him. Yeah, it's terrible. Fucking awful. So it's wild. One person said here, person who came to get a look at this guy in court, cause they bring Steven in to be arraigned and everything. So people want to just go in and catch a gander at him. Who would do this? And one guy here,

Francis Zephyr who set up a prayer vigil outside the courthouse to support Tamra's family said, what I seen today was a man that has no remorse. What I seen said I always think when you walk into a courtroom you'll see what a monster looks like. He said it's that's fucking wild. He said it's difficult as a man and a father when you can't do anything.

Right now I'm holding back because I don't want to cry, but in my heart it hurts real bad. That's another friend of the family. The prayer vigil person said, her mother deserves to bury her daughter whole. And her head, I mean, as a woman, as a mother, I just couldn't imagine. You know, her head's missing. So he said, what that guy did there,

that did nothing for humanity. Nothing for humanity. What that guy did there. What that guy did there, be did nothing for humanity. Nothing for humanity. What that guy did there. What that guy did there, beheading a woman, did nothing for humanity, like he expected it to. Like he's like, the society's ills will be over now, right? Shit, damn it. So they end up seeding, they bring in over 200

prospective jurors they have to interview to try to get a jury that's not tainted because this is a big deal around here. This doesn't happen often around here. 200. Yeah, so they ended up getting finally 13 jurors out of the 200 that they could live with. So that's only one alternate though, that's rough.

So they're gonna proceed though with 13 jurors. They said, fuck it. Trial comes up here. Okay, the prosecution is gonna call 26 witnesses with 13 jurors, they said, fuck it. Trial comes up here, okay. The prosecution is gonna call 26 witnesses to the stand, including forensic pathologists, orthopedic hand surgeons, talking about what happened to his hand possibly, cops, everything else.

They present evidence showing that Falkenberg was the last person to have contact with him, with her, and that evidence regarding his actions after his or her disappearance going to fucking Menominee, which is where the body was found, all that good shit there. So during the opening, the prosecutor, Douglas Barnett, he talks to the jury and he says that the night she was killed, there were two people present,

one is dead and the other has engaged in a pattern of lying in deceit. Not good for him. Says that, you know, he thinks that he placed the body in the bed of his Ford F-250, covered the bed and drove to his brother's house in Menominee. On the way, he spent a night at the American Inn in Tomah where he lounged in a hot tub and ordered dinner while she was in the back of his truck freezing. frozen and that's

probably what froze her I don't think he put her in a freezer I think he kept her in the back of a truck in Michigan and fucking Wisconsin in the winter I think that was it was it March March yeah it's fucking cold there March oh yeah yeah for sure it still smells snows like a bitch there in March and there was like an ice storm that night a snow and ice Storm that night so the defense opening that's a tough. This is a tough defense. How do you yeah? It's one thing if the cops came and she was laying on the floor next to the wall And he said I pushed her and she died yeah, that's you could work with that

You could say she came at me. You could say we were playing There's a lot of lies you can tell that at least would minimize it to maybe where people might believe it. Her fucking head is gone, bro. And you have lots of power tools and her head and hands were removed. That's not good. You're a construction guy. Not fucking good.

This guy says that the state has to prove that he ended her life in a depraved and cruel state of mind while in a state of passion because it's a second degree murder. The bummer is you don't know how she died. That's the problem. We don't have a proof that he killed her. We just have proof that, I mean certainly we got proof that he desecrated the body, right? Yeah, well they're gonna try to link this with some other stuff and make it and try to piece together what he did Also, why would you desecrate and destroy a body if you didn't do it if you did? Yeah, why would you anybody who just finds a body would call the cops or call the 911 or whoever?

Yeah, if you had nothing to do with this then you're not you're not gonna I better dispose of this you know you're no It's not somebody's fucking hamburger. They left behind or Somebody left half a bag of Skittles on my counter. I don't know how long they've been there, but it's awesome. I'm too close to it. I got to get rid of it now. That's so weird. Yeah. Nobody disposes of someone who just dies by accident or, you know, has a heart attack. That's ridiculous. So the defense here though says that, listen, the real villain in this case, it's not Tamar of course, the dead person, she's a victim. It's not Stephen.

He's not the real villain here. The real villain in this case is methamphetamine. That's the real villain. He said that chronic use increases the chances of death and violence. He said meth can cause untraceable cardiac arrhythmia, strokes and aneurysms as well. Can it? I fucking know. It can't be good for you. I mean, it's just battery acid and poison and fucking fertilizer and shit. Can't be good for you. Yeah, can't be good. It's just battery acid and sudapen. That's all it's in there

Look in chinese newspapers. I'm sure some Weird substance to hold it together The autopsy he said found no evidence of a violent struggle here But forensic testing did show that she was high on meth that night that she died. So Just saying um The defense attorney goes on to say say that Tammy became violent and irrational went on meth Which can't be disputed Actually, I mean there's the whole police department witnessed that shit in a whole bar the whole rounding third crew Fucking figured that out ruined their whole slide into home that night

So he says that listen she had becomes irrational and violent my client was trying to help her Yeah, he's not a villain. He's a hero here. That's right. Good guy He said that she not only didn't want to be helped. She started threatening him and his family and the fam the whole family I'll kill everybody. God damn it. I'll take my little fucking petite self over and kill your whole family Then he said she attacked strangers. She's threatened to kill law enforcement officers before she's dangerous He says my client he doesn't do drugs. He doesn't do drugs. He just wanted to help her get clean he said this man stood by Tammy and Made her probation calls for her to see when she had urine screenings. He has no history of violence, nothing, but he instead would let Tammy

hit him until she calmed down. That's how this would work. So and even you're gonna hear from his ex-wife and his girlfriends, all of which who are gonna say he's just a gentle soul, never laid a hand on him. Which might be true, but he did something here. Not 100% of the time, obviously. So the attorney for Falkenberg here argues that the evidence might prejudice a jury if you show them these photos of the autopsy of a headless, handless, footless woman oozing blood.

It's certainly not gonna. Not gonna help any. Not gonna do any favors, no. But it establishes that she's dead and establishes what happened and that's one of those every fucking court case the defense tries to get the autopsy pictures thrown out or the crime scene pictures and it never works out.

Never works, never. And most the judge will say, you can't show, you know, five pictures of the genitals cut off, only two pictures of the genitals cut off, not five. That's gratuitous. So yeah, the defense attorney argued that dismemberment, this is what, he said, you don't need to show the pictures because the dismemberment was performed

days after the murder and it don't need to show the pictures because the dismemberment was performed days after the murder And it does not serve to show intent and that's really what we're looking for here is intent Okay, and the judge was like get the fuck out of here He cut a chick's head off. We're showing the jury that shit bro. Like you got to be kidding We have to so the state argued that the evidence was relevant to prove that Falkenberg's attempts to conceal the murder and prevent identification of the body. They said as to the manner of death and Falkenberg's intent, the state argues that the evidence would be relevant to show that Falkenberg struck Tamara, instantly killing her, and it would show Falkenberg's

motive for removing her head and concealing the crime. Further, the state argued that any prejudicial effect of the evidence would not be by illegitimate means. In other words, if they are prejudiced by this, they should be. Look at what the fuck he did. Basically he deserves to be prejudiced by what he did. Here's his work. Let's show it. You don't want them to show his handiwork? Yeah, here's his long division. Yeah, you don't want you so I get the end of the algebra problem

You don't want to see the X and this and times three. Yeah, that's no no No, we're gonna see how we got there in the third day of the trial It starts with a Sioux Falls orthopedic surgeon named Richard Blake curd Dickie curd his name is. Dick Curd. C-U-R-D. Dick Curd. That's gross.

That's a good snagma. That's as they say, when curds come out of your dick you got problems. That's not good. Yeah. Go by Blake man, come on. He used his expertise to analyze x-rays of Stephen's right hand, because several witnesses had seen his right hand was swollen enough that he had to use his left hand.

According to this doctor, Falkenberg told the medical personnel on one occasion, he injured his hand punching an icicle. Another visit, he said it was a fall. So the prosecutors asked this guy, if punching an icicle or a fall would explain the injury, could you get that injury from either of those? He said it would certainly depend on the icicle. It'd have to be a hell of an icicle.

It might fight back. Yeah, that's pretty much what it is. So they test it. He's going to further testify that the metacarpals on his middle and ring fingers were fractured. That's what was broken. He explained this injury is very common in physical sports injuries and is known as a boxer's fracture or a fighter's fracture. That's where you punch and that's where it breaks. He also said the metacarpal bones make up the skeletal structure for the palm of the hand

with the top of the metacarpal bone being referred to as the knuckle. Let's just give everybody a little roadmap of the hand. So he says when describing how the two middle metacarpal bone being referred to as the knuckle. Let's just give everybody a little roadmap of the hand. So he says when describing how the two middle metacarpals could fracture this way, he explained that the injury was consistent with a fist impacting a stationary solid object such as a jaw, cheekbone, chin, or forehead. You know.

Or a wall or a pole or a car you know tree it should be called the house boys fracture the drunken frat boy fracture the my girlfriend won't text me back to in the morning frat boy fracture that's the one right there he said in his opinion the injury was not likely caused by a strike of a bat. So in case he says in case they try to say later, she hit me with the bat, broke my hand. She said that would result in a larger area of injury. This is very cute where you can shatter fingers that could break your whole hand. So when asked if the injury could be caused by punching an icicle, he said it was possible

that but that the icicle would have to be a very narrow one, one dimensional and robust to break his hand in that way. It would have to be frozen so solid that it didn't give when it, you know, when he hits it. It'd have to be an iceberg. A huge, but also very narrow enough to only break those two.

Right. The most sturdy, but the most narrow as well, which obviously doesn't really exist in frozen science at all. So he said that he agreed that it was possible to break the hands by falling as well on ice when bracing with a clenched fist. He said that could happen.

That could happen exactly like that. When cross-examined, he said that the two different recorded causes could have been the result in error in the records and did not necessarily mean that he told two different stories. Meanwhile tons of witnesses say he told two different fucking stories. Now meth is part of the defense here as well. They were particularly interested in the levels of methamphetamine in her blood at the time of her death. She had struggled with substance abuse

and particularly meth abuse here. And a toxicology report showed the 350 nanograms per milliliter of meth in her blood. The doctor said that amount could cause an overdose. They said that specifically it could cause cardiac arrhythmia which could not be traced, a stroke or an aneurysm, one or the other. However, that amount of meth typically would only kill a person weakened by heart or blood

pressure issues. Your heart would have to be ready to go over, and this could kick it over the side, but it's not going to cause a healthy person for their heart to explode. They said most overdoses of methamphetamine are from between 1,000 and 7,000 nanograms per milliliter of meth in the bloodstream. Boy oh boy. Which is 20 times. That's a lot.

You know, you fucked 200 times what she had. No, is it that or, I think it's 200 times, was it? No, it would be 20 times. 20 times, 350. So it'd be 27,000, it'd, 20 times what she had in her blood. That's a lot. So they said the autopsy did not discover the cause of death with the body, with the part of the body I got to examine is what he said. Nothing came up in what I got. So when asked if methamphetamine in her system could result in death, he said levels

this low generally are not fatal unless they have a vulnerable heart and her heart was quote, incredibly healthy. I'm fucking distraught. That, god damn it. I mean not that I want her heart to be shitty, but I wanna have a better heart than someone who smokes meth all the time

or shoots meth all the time, that's all. Is that a lot to ask? Insistent intravenous methamphetamine use and the lifestyle that comes along with that. And the lifestyle that comes along with that. You know what I mean? That is a lot. Asked if having the head or other missing body parts would have aided in determining if a stroke or aneurysm had caused her death.

He said, what helped? Yeah. Can't hurt. You give me the head, you can't hurt. Like I can figure out a lot more if I have a head. The defense continued with witnesses who showed that Tami was on probation for her drug use and had violated that probation more than once as well. Right.

They're trying to say she's wild and capable of anything because she's on meth. Sure, yeah. Which is kind of like the West Memphis Three, as long as they're satanic, they're capable of anything. Like the Eccles and Baldwin trial, they had no evidence. They were just like, they're satanic. They could have done this. Those are the type of people that would do this.

Love the devil. They were like, okay, this is kind of the same thing. She's on meth. Anything's possible. Yeah, let's see if that muddies the water They also sent send in both sets of kids kids his kids her kids Okay All four were asked about the mention or presence of a baseball bat which she had claimed that she attacked with Both of her kids Tammy's kids said that there was no bat in her apartment. Okay.

Not one. She didn't own a bat. Yeah. And Sebastian said his father didn't mention a baseball bat during the time they met with him on March 16th. And Marissa said she couldn't recall if her father said anything about being hit with a bat, but that self-defense was brought up. They're trying to not put him in worse, basically.

Now the defense case here, he's not gonna testify. No? No, he's got brain damage and a fucked up head. You're not sending him up there on the fucking stand. You get a guy in a nice suit to speak for him, you know? Yeah. But then again, you might wanna put him up there just so he doesn't sound like a monster,

so he looks like a person. Yeah, yeah. But then again, they're gonna go through his whole thing. Well, when did you cut her up? When did you decide to cut her up? When was this? Yeah, they'll probably let him go on the, oh, self-defense, okay, okay, then get real deep into,

so as you're sawing her head off, what's happening then? Right. So, a doctor, a forensic pathologist testified he thinks Tamara died while in the beginning phase of acute methamphetamine intoxication and was under the influence at the time of her death. That's medical testimony. Because Tamara had meth in her system, he could not rule out a cardiac arrhythmia, stroke, or brain aneurysm as cause of death.

However, this doctor ultimately agreed with the first doctor's conclusion that the cause of death was likely homicide by an unknown case, but pointed out that not all homicides were criminal acts, such as in the case of a killing that occurs when a person acts in self-defense. This doctor is worth every cent of his hourly wage. He's even- So far, yeah. He's not just defending the shit

that he's supposed to be defending, he's jumping to other shit. I mean, not everybody, not all homicides are murder, you know what I mean? It could be a fine one. Wow, they bring in a defense psychiatrist who advances the theory that Falkenberg panicked after the death and because of his prior brain injury

Was unable to consider options to summon aid and instead Threw her car in a truck covered the truck bed drove her to Michigan dismembered her and disposed of her He could put that together in his head But he couldn't put together 911 or even go outside and yell, help, none of that shit. Or somebody, a friend's number, anything. Nothing. Didn't think, posted on Facebook, something, just fucking say something.

He instead, they said, couldn't put those things together in his head and make a plan, but he could make a plan to do all the other shit. Which is wild here. This guy said he interviewed Falkenberg, performed a number of neuropsychological tests, and spoke with those who knew him, and he, including family members, and reviewed his medical records from the treatment he received after his car wreck as well.

He testified that the 1993 brain injury caused massive trauma to his frontal lobe, which impaired his ability to quote, multitask, think of alternatives, anticipate consequences, and his ability to problem solve. So, although he was capable of managing his own construction company, the doctor also said that his impairment would worsen with age and would be more pronounced

when under stressful situations. How bad was this brain injury? Oh, when you see his face, it's fucking bad. Really? You can see it. His eye is over here. It had to be bad. If a fucking injury...

It's the grit color of your face. If an injury relocates your eyeball to a place it shouldn't be, that's gotta be bad I would think right? Looks like his skull was broken, frontal lobe damaged. That's not good man. Look on our social media, it is wild. So the court instructs the jury now, now we're a jury instructions. This is kind of important in a case like this because what the jury is instructed on is

very, you know, that matters a lot because if they're instructed to ignore this or put particular emphasis on this or this doesn't count as that, that's what it is. So the judge says the concealment by the defendant does not create a presumption of guilt. Basically saying just because he dismembered her and threw away doesn't mean you can say he's guilty of murder. He said, if you find that the defendant dismembered the body of Tamara or disposed of the tools and Tamara's clothing, this evidence may be considered by you as a circumstance tending to prove his consciousness of guilt. So you can use that, but just not directly.

It has to be in a roundabout way. His consciousness of guilt, which would mean that's his mindset, his depraved manner of thinking and all that shit. He said, you're not required to do so. You should consider this evidence in connection with all the other evidence in the case and give it as much weight as your judgment,

as is in your judgment, it's fairly entitled to receive. Which is fair. Now, verdict comes in, he is found guilty of second degree murder and first degree manslaughter, both. Okay. Which is odd, because they sound like they would both be kind of the same. It should be one or the other.

I would imagine so, but he got both. Now at the sentencing hearing, not only is he gonna get a lot of time here, but the state sought to recover costs of prosecution restitution for expenses submitted by Tamra's family to the crime victims compensation Commission and even $2191.65 to Sydney the daughter for medical costs stemming from her attempts at self-harm as a result of losing her mother. Yeah, so this is a lot. They're seeking $29,678.86 for prosecution and restitution here and then the other $2,500 for her or $2,100.

So in support of these requests the state provided the court with receipts for prosecution costs and documentation from the Commission reflecting that it had awarded compensation for expenses of $4,856.14 for funeral costs and $720 for transportation costs for Ron contingent on submission of mileage compensation forms for her son and approval for 18 mental health sessions for Sydney contingent upon receipt of documentation from the provider with a set deadline of January 13th, 2021. She gets 18 mental health. That's what they're going to give her out of this.

Hope you can fix it in 18 sessions, my darling. Once a month for a year and a half and then you're on your own. Better be all fixed up by then. The state also submitted a document detailing a total restitution request for the Crime Victims Compensation Fund of $7,625.10, which included the $4,866.14 and the seven hundred twenty dollar amounts awarded by the commission as well as fourteen hundred eighty dollars and ninety six cents request for a headstone and five hundred eighty six dollar counseling bill for Sydney. The state did not provide receipts or documentation supporting these two latter amounts. Just said that's what it cost.

We need it. The court then denied the objections of falburg and awarded costs of prosecution and $2,195 to Sydney. Although not requested by the state, the court also ordered Falconburg to reimburse the crime victims compensation fund up to $15,000 for expenses awarded on claims submitted by the family and an additional restitution of up to $40,000 directly to Tamara's children or mother if they incurred counseling or medical expenses

attributable to her death. So the state didn't even ask for that. The judge has just given that. They're just throwing money all over the place and telling them to pay it. Telling them to pay it, which when you hear a sentence, I don't know how he's supposed to figure that out. Regarding the amounts ordered, the court said, if there's any dispute, Mr. Falkenberg will

have the right to a hearing after review of any documentation submitted in support of those requests. Okay. They said the defendant, Stephen Robert Falkenberg, shall pay restitution to the Yankton County Clerk of Court's office in the total amount of $29,678.86. Wow. And then they break down the reimbursements here. in the total amount of $29,678.86. Wow. And then total, and then they break down

the reimbursements here. It's not subject, they said the 29,678.86 and the 2,100 for Sydney is not subject to further hearings as the court ordered those amounts to be paid. So you can't appeal that. You can appeal the other shit, but not that. And they also bring his kids up there to say he's a nice guy. All the people that he knows to say he's a nonviolent man, he's a nice man, he's calm.

Tamara would freak out and he would calm her down, all that kind of shit. Okay. The judge says you, sir, may fuck off life in prison without parole. Don't give a fuck how much you found people down there. Don't give a fuck how nice you are. You were very not nice on this one day. Found the day you were not. He's like, but every other day I'm a good guy.

Yeah. What's up with that man? You should let me go. So reactions here, the prosecutor said this was a horrific crime. I'm glad we could get justice for the family and keep South Dakota safe by taking this violent killer off the streets. You fucking asshole. You couldn't see what I mean? That shit annoys me. That shit. It's one thing to say is a horrible crime. He's a fucking monster for what he did to him. I'm glad he's going to go away now because you can't kill people like that. This guy made it sound like he was walking

the streets droolinging looking for your children. Swabbering, yeah. Yeah, unless your children got on meth and got in an argument with him when he accused them of cheating on her. I don't think he was going to fucking do anything to anybody else probably, but you can't do this to anybody is the point. Tammy's mom said somewhat of a relief, but at the same time it was bittersweet and it didn't bring my daughter back.

I hope you didn't expect it to, because it's not gonna. It didn't bring my grandchildren's mother back, and it left his children without a dad, even though they're adults. There were so many victims in this case, and that's the sad part. She wishes there would be some answers.

She said again that I could be a little bit more at peace if she had all of her pieces, you know what I mean? That's the problem. Peace equals peace is what that is. So she does say I appreciate all the work that the prosecutors did and all the investigators and all the people from Michigan I appreciated and the jury, they did an outstanding job.

So that's good, at least they're happy with that. Now January 20, by the way, that was in the end of that trial was the end of January, 2020. Oh, wow. So yeah, this guy's whole life was definitely going to be way different. No shit. He's doing jail COVID lockdown also. Uh, January, 2021, he appeals. He wants a new trial. That's the problem. He got screwed over. He said, yeah. Oh, lawyer fucked me.

He lawyer, well, he said the circuit court erred in denying his motion for judgment of acquittal. Because before they sent the jury out, every single trial, they just do, your honor, I don't think we even need to go to the jury. I'd like to do a motion for an acquittal from here where the judge can just go, yes, the prosecutor did not present

adequate evidence dismissed. Everybody asked for that. Sarah Boone asked for that. Well, there's video of her killing a man that she made herself. So everybody asked for that. Whether the Circuit Court abused its discretion by denying Falkenberg's motion to exclude evidence

and testimony regarding dismemberment. He tried to get the photos and also them to not, let's not mention that she didn't have hands or feet or a head. Let's just keep that out of this. They found the body. Let's just leave it at that. Has nothing to do with this, man. That's the thing. Has nothing to fucking do with it. They said whether the court's restitution order violated Falkenberg's due process rights and separation of powers doctrine. Now I don't think it did that, but speaking of Sarah Boone, one of the things I found

very interesting when they sentenced her to life in prison, by the way, the state actually because there's automatically all these restitution charges, The judge said, I'm gonna go ahead and probably think the prosecution agrees with this and I'm gonna go ahead and get rid of all of those. She's going to prison forever. She can't pay back anything back. There's nothing to do, right? There's no money coming.

Rather than take her ramen noodles or something like that, they usually. She left in an apartment. Usually when you get life in prison, they will wipe the restitution away because unless you're like a person who has a big war chest of money, which how many murderers have that? So not a lot. So yeah, they usually, fucking OJ would have had some cash to get dealt with, but other

than that it wouldn't have worked. So he says that the prosecutor at trial focused on the dismemberment Even though it occurred in a different state and after the victim was dead So what I don't give a fuck if it happened on Mars a year from now you cut a lady's head off That's why and the only your girlfriends head off as a certain The only reason it was in another state was because it was a place he was familiar with otherwise if it would if that boundary that Geographical boundary had been in visible line. It would have been there anyway. Yeah, it's the He drove her over there. It's different. Everybody would just kill someone and go do something somewhere else then that's not how you do that shit

Yeah He said that they kept using the words Cut chop sever amputate de decapitate, dismember. Yeah, good vocabulary. They got the thesaurus out and fucking went to town. Those are the things that happened. Yup. Went through the thesaurus and really worked it out.

So they said that this catches the attention of people when it's being used throughout the trial. It's all they think about. He said words that by their very utterance elicit a visceral emotional reaction in a listener. Sure. Sure. You know how he could have avoided that was not dismember a human being. You could just leave her head attached to her. Those things happening to anybody makes us fearful. Yeah. Nobody wants that to happen to them. He's like, can you believe they're calling me out on this shit? What the fuck?

Wow his lawyer admits that falcon Berg caused his girlfriend's death in Yankton County and that he took her body To his family's farm in Michigan where he then cut off her head hands and feet before dumping her in a creek So we don't know there's pigs on that farm. Those had hands and feet could be long gone. You know what I mean? But this guy also the lawyer also said that falcon Berg pushed the victim during an argument and she hit the wall and died these Circumstances might add up to manslaughter, but not second-degree murder He said that the state emphasized the dismemberment that occurred days later in a different jurisdiction and by doing so Indicated falcon Berg had a depraved mind, an element of second degree murder. You'd have to have some kind of depraved something

to dismember your girlfriend. That's a lot. Yeah, after there was blood spilled in the apartment, they found a splash. So he hit her head really fucking hard with something. The theory is he punched her so fucking hard he killed her in one shot. He fucking punched her because that's the one punch thing. So he said it's probably one shot, hit her so fucking hard.

I mean he can pound nails in with his hands. Hit her so hard she's a little petite woman, probably broke her skull probably. Wow. Fucking killed her. Very easy to kill someone with a punch if you're big and someone's small, you know? I saw a brain smasher. There you go, it's possible. Everyone dice clayed in it?

Yes. I do. That scene of the little Asian man with the fist imprint in his eyes is hilarious. So funny. So prosecutors say that Falkenberg did give his victim more than a shove. The attorney general says the defendant shoved Tammy against the wall and punched her in the face so hard he fractured his hand in two places. He also says Falkenberg later told some people he had punched an icicle and others he fell

on ice, but the prosecutor says that his broken fingers resembled a boxer's fracture. His injury was most consistent with a strike to the chin, cheekbone, or eye socket, is what the doctor said, quote unquote. They said later in the same day, he loaded up the body into a truck and drove 600 miles, part of the time in a blizzard, to get to Michigan. That's what happened, that's how she froze.

That's how she froze, yeah. God damn. He only stopped at the hotel, because it was so shitty out, it was icy and shitty. So he's like, I'll yeah. In a blitz. God damn. He only stopped at the hotel because it was so shitty out. It was icy and shitty. So he's like, I'll just have a hot tub soak. I'll have a hot tub and a domino. And some dominoes.

Wow. They say that his actions were a continuous course of conduct and his attempt to conceal his crimes indicates he had a guilty conscience. Now, the depraved mind thing, he's charged with the second degree murder, the statute is this, homicide is murder in the second degree if perpetrated by an act imminently dangerous to others and in convincing a depraved mind without regard for human life, although without any predetermined desire, premeditated design to affect the death of any particular person,

including an unborn child. They say in order to successfully prosecute a suspect for murder under this statute, the prosecution must prove that the defendant's conduct established that he was acting with a depraved mind. This means involves less culpability than the element of premeditation required for first degree murder. Falkenberg contends that there's insufficient evidence exists to support the jury's verdict that he killed Tamara with a depraved mind. Yeah, he said that he asserts that the post-mortem acts such as dismemberment were used to retroactively

establish an act, convincing a depraved mind and therefore the state's theory has no support in the record. He's like, if I cut her head off with a power saw to kill her, that would be a problem. That's what he thinks. Later on it was just dumping her man. Yeah, that's not a depraved mind, but they're saying just because he waited a couple days doesn't mean it's not one continuous act. Yeah, he did it as soon as he could.

He just couldn't. He had to get there first. To go back to the body and do worse is worse. It's fucking worse. Absolutely. It's way worse to do that. To do more. God damn, man. Fucking shit. That's crazy. In Falkenberg's view, his conviction hinged on exploiting the dismemberment. You don't really have to exploit dismemberment, it's right there. It's dumb.

And the jury was encouraged to conclude that anyone who could dismember a body despite such an act indisputably occurring post-mortem days later without any connection to the cause of death must have had a depraved mind. Further, Falkenberg argues that the state's theory that Falkenberg struck Tammer in the head hard enough to kill her in one blow did not rise to the act

of evincing a depraved mind. Or the level of that. So yeah, that wouldn't. But then when you add in dismemberment, I think that's pretty depraved. I don't know what else to fucking call it. Super fucked up. Yeah, they said if a person is able to act

with a lack of regard for the life of another, then that person can be convicted of second degree murder. They said that the court instructed the jury, in this other case, it's precedent, that dangerous to others as often as used in the crime of second degree murder meant as an act which was inherently dangerous that puts the lives of others in jeopardy. You know, like punching a small woman in the face. The jury was further informed that evaluating the evidence of depravity, it could consider not only the conduct itself, but the circumstances of its commission.

They said the state relies on the direct and circumstantial evidence that Falkenberg struck the fatal blow to Tamara's body without regard for her life. Falkenberg was six feet tall, physically powerful construction worker with hands so strong he used them as a hammer. So it says in the fucking, in the thing, literally. Tamara was a small, petite woman. Falkenberg admitted to his children that he pushed her and knew right away she was dead.

He's, he Lenied her totally. This is like, that's what his story is. I threw a Lenny at her. Like, that's crazy. We previously observed in another case here, cited by Falkenberg, that a father's blows to the body or shaking that eventually resulted in his child's death were properly determined by a jury as acts committed with a depraved mind.

Also another case here, which they said because Falkenberg severed Tamara's head and disposed of it, purportedly to conceal her identity, the state argued that it did so, he did so to hide the evidence of his crime and the exact mechanism of the fatal blow. They're saying he could have beaten her head repeatedly until it was fucking jelly and then cut the head off so we didn't know that and that doesn't mean that that's not what happened though, you know what I mean? You can't hide evidence and then use that

as an excuse why there's no evidence, because you hid it. So they said the state presented abundant evidence regarding the nature and timing of the hand injury that should link those things together. You know, the convenience store owner, everybody, him signing shit and everything like that. Also, his truck, having his truck bed covered

when it was usually uncovered at that exact moment. So they said that they talk about the doctor saying that the jury could also consider Falkenberg's inconsistent explanations for his hand injury as possibly a lie and that he might have done it punching somebody. Although Falkenberg contends the state used his post-mortem acts to retroactively established he killed Tamara with a depraved mind, his actions in dismembering her body and disposing of her head were relevant not only to show how he killed her but how so his resulting consciousness of guilt after the fatal blow. Talking about a 600 fucking mile journey and all that kind

of shit. They said they were talking about the photographs of everything like that. Then they talk about him talking about weird stuff happening in Michigan that was not good for him at all and all that kind of shit, telling his kids that the cutting tools were gone. All this murder cover up shit. The evidence of Falkenberg's efforts to conceal Tamara's identity and to permanently dispose of her head, hands and feet were highly relevant. Her missing body parts could have provided valuable clues to the cause of her death and Falkenberg's role in causing it. Because neither doctors could determine the exact manner in which she was killed, the

dismemberment evidence was relevant to prove the state's theory that Tamara was killed on March 1st by a blow to her now missing head, which is just a funny line. Sad, but funny, just for some reason. That's in a court document somewhere. That's to her now missing head. So they said that he's got all this physical prowess. The dismemberment evidence was also relevant to show how the perpetrator of the crime attempted to conceal the identity of Tamra's body before disposing of it when he admitted to his daughter

after she said, what's with the cutting situation? Which is still the strangest thing anyone's ever fucking asked their father. The evidence was relevant here about the tool marks to show that it could have been someone familiar with power tools. That's why they, as he said, it was superfluous to show them these closeups of striations and shit, like it was a power they, as he said, it was superfluous to show them these closeups

of striations and shit like it was a power tool. But they said, it's someone that knows power tools and has power tools. You're a contractor. Yeah. You know, and have power tools. Yeah. You don't just, I mean, I know you can pound nails in with your hands, but that's not how you cut wood. You don't just karate chop it and it fucking breaks into the exact measurement you want it to be. I don't think. So they said that a contractor with his experience, ability and strength could make such cuts.

And they also used the frozen body thing that they talked about. They said in one area, in one photograph, the doctor referenced, he testified the skin on the body had a purplish area which is known as marbling or liver mortis and he explained that this depicted that this which is depicted in the photo was evidence of early decomposition which is helpful in determining time of death and it's also shows that levitity set in before he moved her okay yeah she wasn't frozen plus I think it would have taken

longer to freeze a human body than it takes for levitity to start to happen. So you have to put them in, I don't even know how cold. Liquid hydrogen. That would have to be, yeah. Seven other photographs involved images of the different tattoos used to identify her body. So they said that providing an overview

of the location of the identifying tattoos in the straight lines where her head feet and hands were severed Justices will consider the arguments here and find out if he wants gets a new trial now his new trial is denied good, but Steve for the state Supreme Court found that a restitution order covering future costs for the victim's family was not appropriate. Restitution means I'm paying you back, not I'm paying in the forward. That's what they're saying. They said there's a reason why it's called restitution and in the law you have to look

up legal definitions and that is not I'll pay you later for some shit you haven't done yet. There's no child support to be paid. Exactly. pay you later for some shit you haven't done yet. There's no child support to be paid. Exactly, yeah. So the justices demanded that that decision for a restitution hearing in a new order. They said, well, compensation for perspective counseling and medical costs may be appropriate and necessary

in cases involving significant harm to victims and their families. The state's request for reimbursement for certain identified expenses submitted to and awarded by the commission board, no relationship to the circuit court's award of up to $15,000 in reimbursement to the fund. So you don't have to pay that shit back. They gave him a gift card to run up a bill on this guy.

Yeah, that's exactly what happened. So he doesn't have to pay restitution beyond the regular restitution, which unless he's got an estate or something like that, I don't know how the hell you pay $15,000 ever in jail. They make like 12 cents an hour in there, literally. You work days to make a Snickers bar. So it's not, I don't know how they expect any money out of these people, but like I said, Sarah Boone, they waived it. Said, obviously you're not going to pay that.

If you did have that money, you'd just buy all the wood bridge in the world. So what's the point here? So anyway, that is Yankton, South Dakota. Golly. Just a fucked up weird situation with strange. Everything's gross. Yeah, it's so weird because going into the story,

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