Small Town Murder - #558 - Helping Mom With Murder - Grovetown, Georgia

Episode Date: January 4, 2025

This week, in Grovetown, Georgia, a woman is horribly murdered, in her own home, in what looks like an interrupted burglary. The house next door is also burglarized. But once the story begins to become more clear, it's obvious that this is actually a complicated plan of killing & cover up, all to be able to more easily have an affair, and has a mother & son looking down the barrel of very long prison sentences!!Along the way, we find out that Nelly won't even come to the county fair, that having someone shoot at you, doesn't make you innocent of murder, and that some people will never acknowledge the truth, even when it's being screamed in their face!!New episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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well. Jimmy will mispronounce your name. That said, I think it's time everybody to sit back. What do you say everybody? Let's all clear the lungs, arms to the sky. Let's all shout. Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this everybody. Let's go on a trip. Shall we? We are going down to Georgia. Okay. Quickly. Let's go on a trip, shall we? We are going down to Georgia. Okay, let's go, you old rascally devil. Quickly before we go though, before we get in the car here, quick program note, the next small town murder episode after this, the next regular one that comes out on Wednesday night, Thursday, that will be our 1000th episode of Crime and Sports and Small Town Murder

Combined. thousandth episode of crime and sports and small-town murder combined that'll be I don't count your stupid opinions because it's not it's not research intensive so it's not it's not there but that this will be our one thousandth episode which is a goddamn big fucking deal everybody let's just say it that way so a lot of minutes it's a lot of minutes it's a lot of hours and wow there's so much hours goes into it. So thank you everybody for helping us get to a thousand and hopefully we will get to another thousand. So that said, Grove Town, Georgia.

Let's do it. This is Eastern Georgia near the South Carolina border. It's about 20 minutes to Augusta outside of Augusta, Georgia, two hours over to Atlanta, over to the West there and about an hour 22 Rutledge, Georgia Which is our last George episode a deadly love and that was a weird one. So It's been a minute. This is in Columbia County Population here by the way is really spiked in the last like 20 years in this area. It's fifteen thousand six hundred and eight Which it was like it was like three thousand twenty years ago. So it's gone up a lot median household income here around the rest of the

Country it's about sixty nine thousand here to sixty three thousand eight hundred sixty dollars Median home price here two hundred seventy nine thousand three hundred dollars So that's lower than the national average also and the motto here a community a community that cares There it is. It just sounds like a hospital's motto. It doesn't sound like. The whole town. Come to our town. It's a hospital. Enjoy.

Take care. Check in. History of this town. In the 1860s, the town was known as Bel Air, which is pretty funny. Yeah. That would have been way different if that's where they put Will Smith. Yeah. And in that year. In that year.

In any year. What are you talking about? 2024. That would have been not great. It was officially incorporated, the city, on January 1st, 1881. The name of the small village came from the Old Grove Baptist Church that was founded in 1808.

That's where the Grove came from in there. There was a poet here, a poet famous in the post-Civil War era named Paul Hamilton Hain. Oh, I thought it was Corpse Hill. That's why I'm saying this, but it's not. I don't read it well enough. Is it Cor Hill?

It's Copse Hill, C-O-P-S-E. And I was like, he moved to Corpse Hill? What the hell is that about? Then he also solicited the US Postal Service to establish a grove town post office. That's how he got it So that's how they got the post office was a poet had to wonder if he wrote them in poetry If you're gonna if you got the skill why not right I think he wrote the neither rain sleep snow I'll tell you what I'll give you guys a motto if you do this for me also it was a lot of people from Augusta wealthy people from Augusta had summer homes in Grovetown and so that was a big deal there they'd come out and then they found

out Hilton head yeah I guess if you want to go further right there yeah they built a whole a hotel known as the Eagle in the 1880s as well the Roseland Hotel turned into the eagles reviews of this town. Here we go We don't know shit about it. Maybe these people do five stars I moved to grow town Georgia from a small city in Mississippi five years ago And I have to say I haven't regretted making the decision. I'm a sure I bet I'm a small town girl but moving here has allowed me to meet new people and be a part of such a positive, diverse environment.

What town are you from? This is the big city. 15,000 people in the middle of fucking nowhere. The big city. Wow. Wow. Holy shit. Super diverse environment.

I've learned new things. I've been exposed to more opportunities they can truly say are shaping me into a wonderful young lady. She is so proud of herself. I truly love this city. Yeah. Use that term loosely. Yeah. Lady. Three stars. If you enjoy medium town living, what the hell does that mean medium size or is it just mid like to use a your stupid Opinions thing here. Everybody's got a medium-sized dick Yeah, if you enjoy medium town living then Grove town is the place for you. It's within the suburbs of Augusta It's small enough where families actually know each other but big enough to have nice activities dinners and theaters for families Okay, that's fine.

That makes sense. It's not so small that there's one little restaurant that closes at 7 o'clock or something. And then finally, two stars. The city does its best to be progressive, like with bike lanes, although minimal, and keeping the area looking tidy and festive when it applies. The parks are an amazing place to visit. I lived near the middle and high school and appreciated the fact that kids would walk there on foot and the sheriff department would control traffic for them.

The regular people though are snobby and quite rude. That just tells me the kids can't smoke weed on the way home from school which sucks. That would have been my concern as a kid. This sucks. Go away. I'll dodge cars. I don't want wanna smoke this. The regular people though are snobby and quite rude.

The drivers are maniacs and regularly put everyone in danger. Regularly? Everyone. Even if you're not on the road, you're in danger. On the sidewalk and everything. Even if you're in your living room, danger. They're coming right through the wall.

Town full of dead boys, Jesus. Things to do here here the Columbia County Fair is the main thing to do here and there's some events going on here There is I don't know what this is a banana Derby. I Don't know what a banana Derby. I don't know what the fuck a banana Derby is exactly Who's got the biggest run a 5k who's got the biggest dick here It's the banana derby the master chainsaw carver will be there sure of course obviously I don't know if he has anything to do with the banana derby But I wouldn't want to piss that guy off if he's gonna swing in that chainsaw the American Motor Drome

Company or drone dr. Ome company wall of death drone DRO me company wall of death The fuck is that no idea what that is at all is that the is that the dome that they ride motorcycles inside of I? Don't know It's gotta be you could suggest a hundred things and I'd say I don't know no idea what that is Magic man TJ Hill will be strolling each night, then Dr. Magical Balloons will be there also. Oh my god.

There's nothing more annoying than when they send a roving magician around. That's the most annoying. It just pops up next to you and is like, want to see a card trick? No, I don't. I'd be friends with an asswipe like you if I fucking wanted to see a card trick, but I'm not on purpose. Also the Goat Island Petting Zoo. I assume there's goats. The 4-H Grow Here Pollinator Garden and Hay Bales.

That's an event and that's what I mean. I saw that and I was like oh I remember the pollinator. And then finally your bands here. Able Cricket will be here. bands here. Abel Cricket will be here. Sure. A-B-E-L Cricket. Then Major Sound. Okay, it sounds like an army major who's in the wrong business. Demolition Derby. Columbia Count. Oh, entertainment. Doug James and the Stagehand Band. It's a good sign. It's where most of the good musicians come from. Columbia County Fair doesn't get anybody that's not even Nelly. Not even Ludacris will come here. That's crazy. Sir Mix-A-Lot, anything? Jay and the Bootleggers will be there. Okay. And also Salt Run. Tony sucks. Tony Howard, Motown and Tina Turner review. So that's all old songs you know that's fine at least. And

then finally Little Roy and Lizzie will be there. I'm a gas. This is horrifying. I am so upset. That is a bad festival right there. It's a terrible day. It's a bad day no matter what night you're there the music is not going to be any better. That said let's talk about some murder shall we? Alright let's do this. said let's talk about some murder. Shall we? All right. Let's do this All right. Let's talk about a woman first here Laverne we'll talk about doesn't go by Laverne though. She goes by Kay Laverne well Laverne Catherine Saner is her name. She was born with later

She'll be Parsons and it makes sense maybe why she dropped the Laverne Because she's born in February of 1968 so that means yeah ten years when she's she was 910 I mean that is Laverne Laverne and Shirley the very Laverne named me this long before the goddamn show Penny Marshall I hate you is what she said she hates Penny Marshall a lot so now she's Kay which is funny cuz Catherine usually isn't Kay. Anyway, Kay just seems like. Kathy?

Yeah, Kathy or Kate even, but not usually Kay. Clearly Kay. I never heard Kay from that, but whatever. She's born in Connellsville, Pennsylvania. That's where she's born, to parents Arthur and Mabel Saner. Sounds like she was born in 1868, not 1968. She has three brothers and three sisters So she's it's her and a Brady Bunch there. She graduated from Laurel Highlands High School there and

Met a man named David Parsons after high school and gets married and becomes Kay Parsons and David is in the army. So he's a career army guy He's gonna be in for I think 20 years and then he's gonna get out of the army. Oh, yeah and she she liked it she liked the lifestyle they have a son here as well in 1997 they have a son together named Derek and She is all about being a mom and you know into the army wife thing too. Very much into her kids into baseball her kids very much into little league

so she's a big a big baseball mom type of thing you know what I mean. Also goes to church and all that stuff kind of your typical kind of suburban mom family here. Southern mom too. Absolutely. And he's a David, when he retires from the military, he takes a job as a contractor there. So he's doing that. For the military, yeah. Yeah, so he's doing, you know,

I don't know if he's working for the military or actually, you know, hammer nails into shit. I'm not sure. One of the two. So they live at 229 hot Springs Drive which is a four-bedroom three bath 25 almost 2,500 square foot very comfortable house right not bad for three people family it was sold in 2022 for three hundred sixteen thousand five hundred bucks so wow not bad affordable

yeah not bad down there and this is a neighbor of hers says Kay is just a wonderful wonderful person she her husband and Dave who recently retired from the army really live for their son Derek I can tell those I can tell you those three did everything together Derek is their pride and joy So it's just a very family oriented family. That's all there. They just got the one kid, huh? That's it. The one kid. That's it.

What a dream. That's not bad at all. I was going to say, especially her coming from a family of seven, I feel like that's on purpose. Probably. We're having one kid, period. I'm not having 12 kids running around my goddamn house. He's going to want for a big family later,

but for now he should just be really thrilled that he gets to be an only child. That's awesome. Yeah, that's great. I never had a problem with it. It was fine. Oh, great. So, he, a neighbor of theirs, recalled vacationing with the Parsons in Panama City, Florida,

which I don't know if I'd call that a vacation so much as just- Well, it depends on when you go. If you go at spring break, that's a fucking nightmare. I think Panama City, Florida really at any time of year is really not anywhere I'd want to be personally. Yeah, I get it. I don't want to hang out there. It depends though if that's your scene, like that kind of like murky shit. If you're trash, yeah, sure.

Yeah, yeah. I'm going to say that period. If you want to be trash on an off weekend, That sounds awesome If you're I gotta be trash amongst millions of trash, no, that's awful. That sounds horrible. Yeah this guy It's trash. Fuck that this guy says Kay's an adventurer We were on jet skis and a boat came by us and really stirred up the water and she said I can handle this because I'm Used to riding motorcycles with Dave and Derek said I can handle this because I'm used to riding motorcycles with Dave and Derek. Wow. Yeah.

And in the end though, she got knocked over and she laughed about it and said, ah, maybe I bit off a little more than I can chew. So she's not dramatic or anything like that. There's no any of that stuff. This guy's not much worse than somebody that has no sense of humor about falling off a jet ski. Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Yeah. You have to enjoy yourself when you do that. It's like if you're riding a sled down a snowy hill, you're going to fall eventually, you just tumble in the snow and you laugh your ass off. That's the point of it. You don't go, God damn it, I wanted that to be perfect. Jesus Christ. You're riding a jet ski, you're trying to stay dry, why are you wearing sneakers?

I'm a professional jet ski rider, this is ridiculous. Why did you wear your evening gown? What are you doing out here? He said, oh, we laughed about that and she could hit a softball far too She really loved going to all of Derek's baseball games and he was there and he was in three or four different leagues She had a great sense of humor. That's a nightmare. Oh this kid plays sports for four different kids. Basically. Oh terrible I want to die thinking about it. Oh shit. So Thursday March 25th 2009 comes around here

Case 41 years old she drops Derek off at school He's 12 drops him off at school. She gets back home and it's a little bit before 9 a.m And when she was seen going home Now there was a contractor who was doing some work on the house. Her husband's a contractor so I don't know how that works but okay a different contractor. Maybe yeah. He came to do some work and when he shows up at 8 45 he finds the back glass door, the French doors in the back and the glass door is broken back there. Oh. So he says, oh shit.

So he looks, kinda looks his head in the house a little bit and sees some blood spattered around and seeing that the house looked like it was in a state of disarray that it didn't look like the last time he was there. So. Don't go in there. He does not go in there, he calls the police here.

He steps outside, calls the police, he goes, hey, I might be a contractor, but I can't put that back together. So I already got to repair a door. You guys come fix whatever else I don't have any, any, any way to fix that. So when a deputy entered, he found what appeared to be blood on the sofa and the living room rug here at Kay's house. They also found blood on the walls and the doors. There's a lot of blood around, which...

It's a lot. It's a lot. So they're very, you know, a little bit freaked out by that. Now they end up finding her clinging to life on the garage floor. Wow, really? She is alive, but severely beaten about the head. And needs blood. Horribly, yeah. and needs blood horribly. Yeah, there's blood everywhere

One of the police officers said she was must have been confronted by the suspect and was attacked and seriously injured She'd been beaten very severely. She'd been struck numerous times So she's she's trying to run and get out through the garage. That's the only thing we could think is obviously this started in the house So that's the that's the thing here. And as we we go through this it looks like she interrupted a burglary. That's what it looks like happened. Looked like she came home in the middle of a burglary here. She's taken to a doctor's hospital then to the medical college of Georgia hospital and yeah during this she clings to life for almost a whole day before she eventually dies. So from her wounds.

Now the police investigating the house here, because now it's not just a burglary and an assault, this is a murder now. So you know, a little bit different investigation. Yeah, this crime scene just got much more severe. Yeah, they find a blood trail from the out that leads to the garage. So they're like, okay, that's they're trying to find out, you know, put it together of how it happened. They say that she was robbed and a gold necklace and watch were taken off her body as well.

Well, you better hope you don't get caught because that is yeah, I mean, that's a watch is pretty traceable too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So nearby, right outside, they find a baseball bat and a claw hammer, both with blood and hair. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. These are brutal weapons.

That's like this baseball bat isn't enough. I'm going to grab this hammer quick and make it worse type of shit. A claw hammer. A claw hammer. I don't know which side of the claw hammer but Jesus Christ. So she ends up dying later that afternoon. Head trauma is the cause of death here. Multiple beating. I mean just she's been beaten so many times they don't know how many blows that she's been given even on the head. So then while this is going on they find out

that the home next door at 227 Hot Springs Drive was also burglarized. So now they have two burglaries right next door and a dead woman. Yeah. So the police officer at this point says this is the lead detective. We're following some leads. We have our suspicions but we're nowhere near solving this case. No. They don't know what's going on. So what's up with Next Door? We'll find out here. Who lives there is a couple named Rebecca, who goes by Becky. Becky Bowers is what she originally was. And then she got married because she doesn't like the alliteration.

It's like, I can't be Becky Bowers. That sounds like the most annoying person who's ever lived. So I'm going to get married to a guy named Sears, S-E-A-R-S, like the store, like the defunct store here. This is Tony Sears he goes by. So that's her husband. Becky is good friends also with Kay. They're tight.

The families are tight, they're tight. They live next door. She's born the same year as Kay. So she, I can't quite lock down how many kids these people have. Up to five sons. At least three and as many as five. She has two older sons from a previous marriage and she also has younger sons that are two, five, and 13 as well. So they have, she has like a 21 year old, a 19 year old, and then the couple themselves have a 2, a

5, and a 13 year old. So that is a lot. Now the 13 year old and next door, Kay's 12 year old played on the same baseball teams together all the time. So these parents know each other very well. You know the sports parents well, especially if you live next door. They carpool to travel games and all that kind of shit. And in addition to living next door and having sons that play together and having barbecues

together and all that shit, they actually work together as well. These women. What? Yes. You had to really not be sick of somebody for that shit. Like you have to like somebody. They both work at the healing hands, Therapy Center as well. They both help with like occupational therapy type shit. That's 227 Hot Springs Drive. Very close friends though these two and even the couples like the Tony and

Derek there, the husband David, they would play on mixed doubles and tennis together and shit. So that's too much spending time. That's too much spending time with your neighbor. That's a lot of time with your neighbor. That's, I don't, yeah, I like to, no matter how cool my neighbor is, I want to distance myself a little bit from them because you can't get away from them. That's the problem. I'm not doing it, yeah. No, so these people, they're diving in though.

Now the sons, Becky's sons here, Christopher is a 19-year-old son. That's, I believe, her second son from the previous marriage. He lived in a place of his own, but spends a lot of time with his mother at this house. He's there all the time for some reason. I mean, very close to her, but he's 19 too. He should probably be doing other things. So now Rebecca's older son, the oldest one, Michael, lived at the house, and I believe he's like 21 or something. Rebecca got Christopher, the 19-year-old, a part-time job at the physical therapy clinic

where she and Kay worked as well. So everybody works there. Now, both homes appear to have been broken into, and they believe that Kay interrupted a burglary, that Becky was just lucky enough to not come home in the middle of here now Becky and Christopher her son were both present when the deputies got to Kay's home that morning so they were both there Becky actually followed a deputy into the house but once they saw blood they escorted her out of the house no because she was like I want to see if my friends okay I want to house, but once they saw blood, they escorted her out of the house. Yeah. You can't be in. No.

Cause she was like, I want to see if my friends, okay, I want to go in there and they saw blood and they're like, Oh, now it's a crime scene. You got to back the fuck out here. Now they shouldn't have let her in before because it was still a crime scene. If it was a burglary, that's a crime scene. You can't be letting people wander around and touch shit. But anyway, she is escorted out at that point. She tells deputies then that her home's been broken into also They said they found her home ransacked, but they couldn't find a sign of forced entry there

There was no broken black door so that she might have had an open window or a door that you didn't lock or unlock some shit like that, so Obviously this looks like a targeted attack on this neighborhood and sure enough if you live in this neighborhood it's not just one house it's two houses this is scary you know what I mean these people are freaking out they and people say this here's a quote from a neighbor quote you move to a neighborhood because it's supposed to be a nice safe place to live and then something like this happens. Something like this. That's right. Then there's a guy, one of the neighbors who's a former army sergeant who served multiple tours in

Afghanistan. He said, I'm not afraid of it. That's good. Cause I said, are you afraid this could happen to you? And he said, not at all. Not me. He said, I'm just going to improve access to my weapons. That's what he said. What? I'm just going to place more weapons around my house and live. I'm going to get real strategic about my pistol. Yeah. I'm going to live like I'm in like a, like I'm in a, under a state of siege all the time now. That's all.

That'll be better. Good Lord. One lady who lived here for eight years said she's never heard of a break-in in this neighborhood before. This is crazy. Not one, yeah. She said, we watch out for each other here. So, you know, we're nosy. We stare out the window and write license plate numbers down

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This is one of the saddest, if not the saddest, case we've investigated in a long, long time. So okay, now that is the one day. So that goes by. The next afternoon happens okay yeah next afternoon Becky Sears the next-door neighbor yep okay she's leaving the healing hands physical therapy center where she works the next day she still went to work people are breaking into neighbor breaking into your houses in your neighborhood killing your friends and co-workers and you still go to work

the next day though I got work to do Yeah, I call it in. Yeah, I got shit to heal She's walking to her vehicle talking on the phone after her shift, right? Walking out toward the parking lot when she said a man jumped out of a bush From the rear of the building and brandished a pistol at her What? Okay She turned to go back inside when the guy shot at her.

Okay. And she later on said the man told her that if she didn't have his money, it would be her face. Which I've never heard that one before. I've heard it'll be your ass, but not your face. No, I mean. I mean, that's worse, honestly. Yeah, yeah. You can't see your ass, so you gotta show your face all the time. I think that's worse honestly. Yeah.

You can't see your ass, you gotta show your face all the time. I think the guy is making a bigger threat. That's it, if he didn't have his money. So that's when she turned around and ran. And she's on the phone by the way, so someone else hears this. And hears a gunshot. And the gunshot actually grazes both of her legs. He did shoot!

As she, yeah, no, this person shot at her. And the gunshot grazed both of her legs. As she did shoot. As she, yeah, well, you know, this person shot at her and the gunshot grazed both legs. So it must have gone on the inside of it, I assume. Or if she was turned sideways, maybe sideways at the front or whatever it was, but it grazed both legs but didn't actually, not a hardcore bullet wound here. Then the man ran off toward the woods. One shot and he took off The police find a 22 caliber shell casing at the scene when they get there Um the sergeant commented about becky quote

She wasn't real happy about getting shot Well, no shit really most people are that's interesting So she is treated for her wound here. Now man, that's fucking wild. Both women by the way, so now two women from the Healing Hands Physical Therapy Center have been attacked in successive days. And if anybody's got a ballistic kit at home, please bring that by the station so we can test this route.

If you have that. By the way, anybody know how to get someone to like admit to some stuff they don't want to admit to? Anybody? Because if you do, we're open for any ideas you got. It's hard. At minimum, a GSR kit. Please bring them by the station.

I mean, that's complicated. I don't know. I don't know if we have the facilities to process that, but if you can just get someone to not lie, if you can do that, is that possible? If only they had a machine that could tell us if they were lying. Does anybody know anything about that? So the sheriff here, the captain of the Columbia County sheriffs here, he said that he knows of no link between these two crimes, by the the way the shooting and the killing in successive days from the fact they

happened at the exact same time no not the burglaries and then this shooting her house is yeah robbed and okay yeah there doesn't know of any link between them I would say this has to be just the unluckiest fucking group of neighbors that's ever lived if there is no link here They said somebody's terrorizing them They said we've been in contact with Richmond County authorities concerning that matter But there's no evidence to suggest a link is what they said now at the hospital apparently Rebecca goes there. She demands to know Kay's condition demands to know Kay's condition like really Forcefully forcefully which are like the hell is wrong with this fucking deal here Demands to know Kay's condition. Demands to know Kay's condition. Like really. Uh huh.

Forcefully. Forcefully, which they're like, what the hell is wrong with this fucking deal here? This is very strange. Becky had visited Kay the day before, before she died. Yeah. Because the shooting happened on Thursday. And she, I guess she wasn't even conscious, Kay okay at the time, but she visited her now apparently here that's when after Thursday the next day comes and

Now all of a sudden they have a confidential informant the police come out and say Yes, a confidential informant that says this is a this is according to the search warrant that is written in the affidavit a confidential informant advised He believed Rebecca Sears was responsible or involved in the murder of mrs. Parsons Souther saying Becky over here killed Kay is what they're that's what the confidence for telling us that they said the confidential Informed and also stated that on more than one occasion Mrs. Sears asked him to kill mrs. Parsons. Oh The confidential informant stated mrs. Sears asked her sons Christopher Bowers and Michael Bowers to murder mrs. Parsons

Kids gather round. Yeah, holy shit. They said so the cut they said well why the fuck would the What this doesn't make sense with a win and mix doubles too much like what are we talking about here? Why would this happen then they said the confidential informant said that quote He had personal knowledge of mrs. Sears being involved in a romantic relationship with David Parsons Becky is fucking David, that's the problem. Unbelievable. That is a Becky's pork and Parsons over here, not good. So.

How could she do that? That is fucking crazy. He said quote, this is the, we'll find out right now who the confidential informant is, quote, his mother showed him text messages on her phone that made it clear she was having an affair with someone His mother made it clear to Michael that she wished she knew someone who would kill someone for her Look at how filthy her husband's being with me. Look at this now

Do you happen to know any dirty friends her husband was deployed in Afghanistan at the time? Parsons no Becky's husband, Tony Sears. Tony's in Afghanistan. She's fucking the next door neighbor here. Wow. And apparently, Becky wanted Kay out of the way to have a better relationship with her husband, with Kay's husband. So apparently this affair had gone on. She said it ended in February 2009,

which is the month before this. But authorities examined her phone records and found that the two still exchanged text messages, exchanging and professing their love for each other. So it didn't end. What the fuck, man. So they said that is a good motive right there so they arrest Christopher Sean Bowers first he is her 19 year old son and

He's got a real like a minor police record He was charged with marijuana possession in 2008 and driving under the influence of drugs and other traffic related offenses But nothing that would suggest of drugs and other traffic related offenses. But nothing that would suggest breaking into a fucking woman's house and murdering her in her living room. Straight murder. Brutally beating her to death in her living room. That's a really fucking rugged way to do that. With a ball bat and a hammer?

That's fucked. For murder one, that's your first one? Crazy. I mean, I would assume shooting would be the easiest. You can get a little distance. You don't have to like feel it on you. I would assume if you're, you know. And if it fucks you up, you can get out of there fast.

You can run away. You gotta beat a woman over the head 30 times with a bat and a hammer. That is real personal and real gross. And you gotta have a special kind of kind of stomach for that shit. I'm sure we'll get there but did he do this alone James? Well they said the prosecutors say that the gunshot wound to Becky Sears was later discovered to have also been inflicted by Christopher. He's upset.

No he's not upset at all that's the fucked up part. What? Now they first looked at Michael because they said Michael had a bad drug problem and he lied to the police regarding his whereabouts around the time of the murder because he was off doing drugs and he didn't want to say that so he lied and said something else but they quickly ruled it out as more information came out that it was clearly Rebecca and Christopher that were doing that now Becky's shooting Okay They now think this was staged as a cover-up

For this took a bullet for this well. Well she wasn't supposed to take a bullet. That's the point got fucked up That's what's amazing Apparently she planned to have her son Threatened her with a gun while she was on the phone with someone so someone can hear it So it looked like there was a crazy stalker on the loose But at the time apparently the son fucking fuck. No one knows why if he did it by accident or what but he let it Shot off When he was not supposed to at all he was supposed to go Yeah, you know give me your money or it's your face

And then she was gonna go and turn around and run and then he was gonna run into the woods That was the plan and instead she's laying on the ground going. Why do my legs hurt? What the fuck just happened? This is fucked up Holy shit Wow so yeah, this is how they the great part is how they figured this out This is actually pretty goddamn good police work. I gotta. Really? And this show it is honestly kind of rare. Incredibly rare. Most of the time it's like how do you fuck that up? Well this time they actually were pretty smart here. This is how they got to Christopher to get Christopher to admit all this. Apparently the Channel 12 news people had interviewed

Becky Sears in a report about car insurance just a few months before the murder. Just doing a man on the street interviews. Right. What are you paying? This was at a gas station. She's seen filling up a white Ford F-250 truck, which is the same truck they found parked at Christopher's home after the murder.

So they connected it that way, and the crime scene analysts found blood on the driver's side door, the parking brake, and the seat as well. So that's how they figured it out. So search warrants built up a little timeline for what happened here. I guess Christopher hid in a room in her house,

and then he went into the backyard and waited for this is in Becky's house yeah waited for Mrs. Parsons to leave then used a hammer to break in the back door went upstairs took a couple of things but mainly just staged a burglary and then according to everything here Becky went on to say that Christopher told her, I guess when Christopher was done, he told his mom that he beat the fuck out of her. And after the murder, Christopher quote, went back to her house and entered through the back door and staged a burglary at her house and then left.

So Rebecca stated Christopher called her and told her to pick him up and when she did he had blood on his face and he said he took care of everything and beat the fuck out of her. Yeah. So, this is basically he ran out of the house to a different street not right in front of the house and Rebecca picked him up in the 250, F250 and got blood all over it and that's how it happened. So Rebecca stated that Christopher changed his clothes in the car and placed his bloody clothes in a backpack and

Then they said the the cop said the blood trail suggests that K fled from Christopher into the garage where she was ultimately murdered by blows from the claw hammer. Oh Fucking shit. Jesus the bat wasn't doing it. He hit her a couple times with the bat and she ran away. So he said well I guess the hammer is the way to do it here. Oh no. And Rebecca's other son Michael told police that his mother wanted Kay dead and talked about it all the time. And then they found, they found another friend of hers who also said that yes he's asked, she's also asked me if I could kill Kay Parsons as well.

I never want to throw such great dick that it wants, makes somebody want to murder somebody. That's crazy. Yeah. What kind of, what is he, what is he throwing? That's what I'm saying. She's and also how did she think this was going to work out? Here's my question. Nevermind.

Yeah. Dick, whatever. What, how did she think this is going to work out? Here's my question. Never mind Dick, whatever. How did she think this is going to work out? They were going to kill Kay and then get away with it and then her and David were going to be together and then what happens when her husband comes home from Afghanistan? They're going to kill him? I mean, what are we going to do here? Or is she just making it easier to bang him while he's away?

When the husband comes home, all bets are off? We don't see each other I don't know. I don't know. That's what I mean This is this doesn't seem like it was thought out all that much but for months she was asking people to kill this woman So she really was into this So now upon us so they questioned Becky. She confesses to everything she gives it all up. Becky's don't hold it very well You get a Becky in the box and she's gonna fucking sing like a canary, you know what I'm saying?

They're not known for holding up under questioning those Beckys. There's no mob boss named Becky. No, named Becky, it's not gonna work. She enlisted and she admitted she enlisted the help of her son, which just makes her an even bigger scumbag. Let me ruin my son's life, too She said she picked him up from his place and drove him home Well, she went to drop her other children off at school

Christopher broke into the house beat her with a hammer and bat staged burglary and then Rebecca picked her up. So same shit Now let's find out the schmuck in all this Tony we got one but yeah, Tony Yeah, Tony's he's a fucking idiot this guy. Are you kidding me? This is a dumbass person. Jerk. I wish she would say that. That'd be normal. Instead he's got Becky's back like a motherfucker even though she confessed to this so did Christopher. So did Michael. So did another guy. Everything. They have the text messages of she's been fucking the hub the neighbor

He still loves doesn't care. He's got her back Yep, he said that he's just so sad that this is a nightmare. He can't wake up from it's turned his family life upside down He said just the other day He said to his kid, you know, can daddy have a kiss and he said that's a moment that Becky's missing out on right now The missing out he said quote. It's tough real tough. All of us miss her so much my whole world's changed Okay This is a real understanding cat right here. Oh shit. Maybe it's her that fucks great. This is crazy Yeah, he said quote then this is amazing.

Oh, this is about Kay. Okay. She was an innocent victim. She dropped her child off at school, came back home and was murdered. It's terrible. I can't even think about it. I don't even know what to think about it. So they said, do you think she's guilty?

Let's start there. You don't know what to think. Where do you think on this? Do you think he's guilty? Tony said, no, no. No, not guilty at all. They all confessed to it. Not guilty.

Who's more delusional, him or Aunt Diane's husband? Him. Yeah, 100%, right? 100%. Because Aunt Diane's not around to confess to everything she did and have him go, no, I think she's cool. Unbelievable. Jesus, I got this think she's cool. Yeah. Unbelievable.

Jesus, I got this memory he's trying to protect here. So they said, no doubt in your mind, and he said, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind. What does he think happened? This is a man who just came back from war. Like, he knows reality. He's seen it. He just does not want to accept it here.

This is a man who accepts reality in many portions of his life, but not here. Yeah. Wow. Tiny's seen it. He just does not want to accept it here. This is a man who accepts reality in many portions of his life, but not here. Yeah. Wow. Tiny chunks though. Yeah. He said, or they said they're calling her a mastermind, but saying that he beat a woman, he beat a woman to death. Is that any part of, is that any part of him that you've ever known? Meaning the son.

Yeah. And he said, personally, I couldn't see him doing something like that. And then Tony said, Becky's afraid that the smaller boys will forget her in time. So I keep bringing them down there for visitation. Wow. That's fucking amazing. And then this is, I believe her sister said, even if people wonder if Becky and Christopher are innocent, there's no doubt about the fact that the other children are completely innocent here

He said she says you can look in their eyes and see that their spirit is still there They're still holding up holding tight, but it's just your heart breaks for them every time you see that meaning Becky's kids Then she says that this is what Tony says now It's extremely hard and to hear how she's being treated, it just doesn't seem fair. Who gives a fuck? How she's being, they put her in jail, man. The food's not good. Like it's not fair. They lock her up. She's doing well as well as, doing well as well as expected. Then he says, it's terrible. I can't even think about it. I don't even think about it. I don't even know what to I don't even know what to think he says again, then they say what do you think about the prosecution's claim that she was having an affair?

There you go. There you go. Yeah, let's try to get some touch a nerve of reality somewhere in Tony here He says I'd rather not talk about that. So put let's push that reality off to the side and Say my wife's innocent off to the side and say my wife's innocent. What the fuck man. I mean I get that he's got three small children to care for now which is tough but wow. They said could the Becky you know be capable of something like this.

I mean they call her a mastermind that she orchestrated this and he said no, no. He said I don't believe none of that and I believe she's innocent He said it just doesn't seem fair. I've always thought well you're in jail It's not supposed to be fair until something like this does happen. Then you realize what they're going through Yeah, murderers have a tough time. They have to go to jail and everybody calls them. Yeah, I really tough time. They have to go to jail and everybody calls them. Yeah. I really would be for prisoners. Well for Becky anyway. Yeah. I bet you the other prisoners doesn't have so much sympathy for. I bet he's a real law and order guy

till now. You know what I mean? That's the thing. So Becky's sister Renee says that she's been she's been staying with Tony to help him with the boys. I bet she has. I was gonna say, Renee. Renee's making Tony feel. Not their kids, but you know. They're all boys if you think about it. Including Tony.

I quote, help take care of the boys. Yeah, I'll be sucking on them. Tony's dick is included in that. Her family's also helping to pay for her sister and nephew's defense. So they asked Renee, no doubt in your mind she's innocent? And Renee said, no doubt whatsoever. Unbelievable. I know my sister and I know my nephew.

I know the things they're capable of and this is not one of them. Are Tony and Renee just saying this to see them on the way up and up so everybody doesn't think they're fucking is that What it is probably no, they're great innocent We're just we have to just huddle up together to try to get through this our desire to see Becky so bad Then it's next thing you know So they said that um, she said that the boys ask about their mother all the time. So they asked Renee Do they understand what's going on? Yeah.

Renee said, not really. I bet the 13 year old does. I'm sure he gets it. He's seen a law and order in one of his days probably. Even if he hasn't, he's seen call of duty at this point. He gets it. He knows what's what. Yeah.

He said, it's just been, was this really heart wrenching because every time the boys come up and give me a big hug, I think this is what Becky's missing. Every time some milestone happens I think she's never going to get this back. Well if only she wasn't so crazy for Dick that she murdered people. You know what I mean? Like I'm sorry but there was a real easy way for this not to happen. It's not like she couldn't was backed into a corner or something. This is all unforced errors. That's me nuts too by the way. Heart wrench wrenching isn't it gut wrenching or heartbreaking one of the two. Yeah I didn't know the heart. I guess you can wrench a heart if you want to I suppose I suppose it doesn't

I think it's gut wrenching and heartbreaking. That's better. I think yeah, it makes more sense, but nobody cares That's the problem the sister said they they were 2, 5 and 13. Now they're 3, 6 and 14 so she's missed a few birthdays. So this is meaning a few months later. A few cumulative birthdays between the three of them. It's one year. It's only one. It's been like eight months literally.

But that's what she said. And Tony said Becky's afraid the smaller boys will forget her in time again They said even Renee said even if people wonder if Becky and Christopher are innocent There's no doubt about the fact that these children are so yeah Then she says Becky or Renee says she's not this type of person the person that would be so cruel and vindictive and just It was a heinous crime just heinous and neither of them are heinous people I mean he beat a woman with a fucking in her own home And then you picked him up and helped him cover the free heinous and from all accounts by everybody a nice lady Just a nice lady next door

It's fucked up what she did somebody And somebody you said every fucking day with. That's the other thing you know her kid well you know you know all this you know that's no thought or for anybody else's concern but you're wrong that is fucking gross. That is shockingly callous. Just because Tony eats pussy like a fucking monster. Has to right? Has to has to so that's what it is. The family says the most hurtful part is feeling like they've already been found guilty already, even before they went, go on trial. No, they admitted it.

That's the problem. They all confessed to it in detail. That's the problem. And all the details match up. This isn't like some coerced confession where it doesn't line up. She, they just said, what happened? And she said, uh, and spilled it. That was it.

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He really thinks somebody asked him. The real killer is like, oh, Jay, now then Renee says, you feel like they've already this. He really thinks somebody asked him. They're real killers like OJ now. Then Renee says you feel like they've already been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion and you can find and you can kind of understand because you see here's this woman with this lovely child and this terrible thing happens to her. You immediately want someone to blame. You immediately want a reason why you don't want it to be a random act because you don't want to think it could happen to you. Well, yeah, no, this isn't that's because it's not a random act at all. So once go by, Tony now moves to Nashville with his three young sons.

Is that right? Yes. Yeah, because those boys, they may not ever forget their mother because they are bully age. They are going to be reminded of this every year. Probably not in Nashville, which is good. That's probably why you moved there. You know what I mean? Whatever's going on there, something Morgan Wallen did something worse at his own bar or some shit. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't matter. Threw a chair at somebody

or some shit. Some girl is professing some awful thing she does to people on the streets. Doesn't matter. Right now. Yeah. Jimmy's buying a ball sack weed from a 12 year old. You know how it goes. Cause that happened in Nashville. So guess what though?

Renee came with him too. Yeah. She's got to help with the boys. You know, the sister. Yeah. Yeah. Quote unquote. Boys ain't going to suck themselves.

Come on. Tony isn't going to feel better on his own here. So Tony says, with the kids in my job, I'm pretty busy, so it kind of takes my mind off of it. I'm sure Becky loves to hear that. Then Renee says, you go to sleep one night and you wake up the next days and your life has entirely changed, but she's been helping Tony and just living with Tony ever since. I'm sure there's no sex going on there. So now they are facing charges of burglary,

armed robbery, malice murder, and felony murder. These are not good. It's got to be aggravated with the theft. You know what I mean? That's the problem and prosecutors are going for the death penalty for both mother and son going for the death penalty for both mother and son going for the death penalty. Absolutely. Absolutely. So that'd be, have there ever been a mother son fucking combination executed before? Murder couple?

I don't think so. Like executed for murder, a mother and a son? That's crazy. Never heard of it. Does he get to sit on her lap while they do it? This is insane. So the prosecutor said, I think it's an appropriate case for the death penalty. They said that it's it is quite frankly, one of the grisliest murders

I've seen. It's horrible. It's a fucking claw hammer. She said police. He said policemen discovered the victim had been beaten almost to death by a claw hammer in her own living room. The blood trail suggests she fled from Christopher Bowers into the garage where she was ultimately murdered by blows from the claw hammer. Now their defense attorney's name by the way is Vic Hawk is his name. Vic Hawk. Vic Hawk. H-A-W-K. And he said during the bond hearing he said it's all circumstantial evidence. This is stupid. Say what? They admitted to it. Her blood is all over her truck, man.

What are you talking about? Circumstantial. This, this is like a pretty, I mean, there's physical evidence. There's circumstantial evidence. There's telephone records. There's confessions. There's every form of, there's the murder weapons, every form of evidence possible they have here.

Call there, Vic. Other than an eyewitness staring at the whole thing, they have everything else, but they eyewitnessed on themselves, so it doesn't really matter. Yeah, there is an eyewitness, one for each of them. Yeah, well, I got two, I got two witnesses, one for each of you. So this defense attorney said, I haven't really heard anything from the state with regard to real evidence to justify concluding that Rebecca Sears killed anyone. Wow.

Tony and Rebecca, or Tony and Renee, the new couple, they say people's thoughts, the death penalty creeps into their minds. Tony said, everyone's entitled to an opinion, but I've you know people's thoughts the death penalty creeps into their minds, you know, Tony said everyone's entitled to an opinion But I've actually had to stop reading the newspapers and blogs the stuff that people write. I mean, it's gut-wrenching There you go. There it is what they think should be done to Becky and Christopher Yeah, cuz I mean any go to a comment section of a crime like this and it's just people going I want to take them and drag them behind my truck and then cook them on my smoker or whatever crazy shit they're thinking of.

So Tony said here, you already know what's at the end of the trial, I try not to think about it much, I don't wanna think about it. And Renee said, you have to plan for the worst and hope for the best. Sure. Hope for farts but plan for shit like I said before.

That's all you can do. That's a fascinating choice to a murder trial. That's it, hope for the best. They said we are going to stand behind them all the way through and just hope and pray the truth comes out and we'll all be back together again. And Tony says what keeps me sane is I know that soon it will be over and the truth will come out yeah behind I'm not in front of him or beside that yeah behind definitely behind them because the one kid he'll shoot you when you don't even yeah I'm supposed to so Vic Hawk now asks to personally review the

crime scene with his client he says that it's Becky's right to view the crime scene and that they have no intention to undermine the prosecution. He said, we do have the duty to investigate. The prosecution says they oppose allowing Becky to quote invade the home of the victim where her husband and three small children are still living. He just wanted to get a glimpse of David, I think, and is fucking just in his hog through his pants or something. Vic Hawk also asked for any notes made by investigators during a more than two

hour gap in the recording of Mrs. Sears interrogation. He also requested that all evidence be preserved for independent testing and they said he said our concern in this case is that there will be significant scientific testing. Prosecution says no objection to preserving the evidence, but you're not going to take the evidence to independent facilities without us, basically, because we have to vet the company first and make sure that they're a legitimate company that's not just working for you to get whatever result you want, basically.

So the trial is going to happen here and they said the this is one of the lawyers said we still have to address the issue of getting Mrs. Sears husband back from Afghanistan because he was redeployed again. You think they would go okay listen my wife's on a fucking trial for murder and I have three small kids to take care of maybe send somebody else you know I'm saying it's I'm not the only guy in the Army. Like I'm not, I know it's Army of one, it's not me. Find somebody else and send them, because I am. Yeah, be all I can be at home.

Yeah, like I get I signed up, but I doubt many other soldiers have this much shit going on in their life right now. You know what I mean? This is a lot. Anybody else's wife up for the death penalty in here? No, didn't think so. Anybody else's wife up for the death penalty in here? No? Didn't think so.

Can I fucking stay home? So 2012, here we go, right before the trial comes up. This is three years later, by the way. It took that long. Jesus. They just say fucking and plead guilty. Have to. Have to.

That's what I mean. All this evidence of this and that, they have every bit of evidence in the world. I don't even know what they were thinking they wanted more of. Vic must have just run them like crazy and taken so much money from them, talking about, I can have you beat the case, don't worry, I just need this much money.

We're doing testing, we got professionals, I need this much money. I need another 80,000 for this, I need another 40,000 for this. Let them drive. Yeah, if the family, if you got a family that's willing to put up money, they'll do that. They'll drain. Let them dry. Yeah, but the family, if you got a family that's willing to put up money, they'll do that.

They'll drain. So now the, it's been nearly 25 years, by the way, since this county attempted a death penalty case, since they've even tried for the death penalty in this. And that was for a serial rapist named Richard Daniel Starratt. So yeah, the prosecution said, good police work and airtight prosecution makes it abundantly obvious to criminals that they're better off taking

not the death penalty, essentially. So, and the prosecutor said, it's also a tremendous savings for local taxpayers because, and it is, they're gonna save so much fucking money doing this. So the sentencing comes around, here we go, mom and son standing next to each other for sentencing You mam and sir may fuck off. They are both sent to prison for life without parole

Okay for murder life for armed robbery and 20 years for burglary each double life and 20 to run consecutively Holy shit life without parole and then life and then 20 and then 20 You're not getting out is what that says never I have stacked these to make sure That your asses are gonna die in there. So that's unbelievable. That's bang them good there I mean, I I don't know if I'd give that for Christopher really a

Night I think I'd give it to him mostly I see I'd give it to the person who planned it and manipulated To manipulate your son to commit murder is way worse than murder like that's way worse a mother telling there Yeah, my mother told me to kill somebody I'd be like are you out of your fucking mind? But at 19 if she nagged you enough to do anything you wouldn't just do it. That's what I mean I probably would end up that's I mean you end up doing it your mother has a lot of control over you I think especially especially if 19 yeah, especially if you get nagged a lot. Yeah, I get that he's an adult but yeah I mean give him you know I don't want him getting out till he's 60 or something cuz obviously if you're capable

Beating some poor late some nice lady to death with a claw hammer you got fucking problems, but she's diabolical Yeah, and the other parts Chris knew exactly why he was he was doing it because mom was cheating on dad That's what I mean not dad stepdad step. Oh, right, right? Cuz he's from he's from the other marriage so that makes it easier for him. I think it would have to be yeah Yeah, you don't have any loyalty to this fucking guy probably beyond beyond that Although he's been around for a long time because their oldest son was 13 at the time So I mean that's only been around for 15 years. He's been around at least since Chris was six Yeah, you know, so that's that's a than a younger than that five because nine months to carry that.

That's what I was thinking. So five years old, you should, you know, have more respect than that. But anyway, they're both monsters. But yeah, I mean to beat someone's bad, but to come up with it is and to say, I'll have my kid do it is. Yeah. And that next level diabolical. Yeah.

Okay. Come on. Hop in the truck. That's fucked up. So the prosecutor said it was a good resolution to the case to get it done on both defendants that quickly I hate to say that quickly three years later Yeah, once it actually came it was quick though in what is this 2017? investigation discovery did a retelling of the story of this this whole case here.

They called it unusual suspects, deadly intent. And then after that, oh, tangled up in red also. Deadly intent tangled up in red. Two subtitles. Wow. Wow. Then there was a multiple documentary things on this TV shows. Evil Kin, that show, did an episode called

For Sale By Owner, which makes no sense for this episode. My Dirty Little Secret did an episode called Naughty Neighbors. Deadly Affairs, of course, and we've seen Deadly Affairs is the one with like Susan Lucci looking all horny. Deadly Affairs, which is the funniest one. I love their recreations. It's so fucking hilarious. That's the one where the light was coming out

of the woman's vagina, remember that? That was like a crazy one there. And it made that bald fucker look handsome. It made, they got a, that was hilarious, Deadly Affairs. Love thy neighbor, obviously. And then of course, of course you have to have an episode because it's a woman who killed someone. Yeah It snapped of course Rebecca Sears

She's living the best life Snap means I can't take it anymore. This was like hmm. How do I get that good dick more right different? This is I can take it so much more and I don't even want to get my husband out of the way That's the other thing. Right. Because I need help with these kids. So I just want this lady out of the way so I can sneak over to the neighbor's house and tag him. Take more.

Yeah. This is wild shit. Oh my God. Poor Kay is buried at the Sylvan Heights Cemetery in Fayette County, Pennsylvania. Oliver, Pennsylvania. She is. That's where she's from. Rebecca Bowers now, let's see, she is,

by the way, you wanna see a person change in prison? Yeah. Wow, did she change a lot. I don't know, you'd have to look so far, don't bother anyway, but she went from very, like a slender blonde woman, very slenderender blonde woman, very slender little blonde woman in her initial appearance

to by the time she is in this, in jail here, couple years later, she's listed at five, four, 210 pounds. She had a sunny from WWG fall off. She doubled, she doubled her weight in jail. Wow. Like pretty much doubled her weight, which I mean, whatever, but I but I mean it's just that wasn't the way she was before that But in jail, she just like put on the carbs. I guess that's tough man. That happens to people in jail They get pudgy. They get jacked or pudgy one of the fucking two here. Right? So yeah, she's in there

she is currently at the Lee Arendale State Prison in Alto, Georgia and No release date for her obviously Yeah, and then her her son Christopher here. He is at the Smith State Prison in Glendale, Georgia and Yeah, he's stuck there now There is a a novel about this quote a novelization of the story, which means they can just make up whatever they want. It's called Hot Springs Drive.

They're going to play up the fucking part of it a lot here. Hot Springs Drive was released in 2023. It was the winner of the Chicago review of books best fiction prize. This is the third title in Roxanne Gay Books inaugural series, inaugural list, Hot Springs Drive, an urgent, vicious blade of a novel about a shocking betrayal and its aftermath asking just how far you'll go to have everything you want. I like the description. Jackie Stinson's best friend is dead and everyone knows who killed her.

Jackie wants to be many things, but a martyr has never been one of them. She's an emotional, an ex emotional eater and mother of four who's finally lost the weight she yearned to be free of. In her new sharp edged body, she goes by Jacqueline, but leaving her old self behind proves harder than she ever imagined. But leaving her old self behind proves harder than she ever imagined, and while she believes she should be happier, misery still chases her and motherhood threatens to subsume what little is left of her. Jesus. Holy Jesus Christ, man. They call Dark Springs Drive as a dark, Hot Springs Drive as a dark, heart-pounding exploration

of one woman's deepest desires and how the consequences of betrayal can ripple outward beyond the intentional strike point. Wow. Okay. Anyway, so they say only one left in stock of the hardcover and on Amazon. So Jesus Christ, scramble for them now everybody. So there you go. That's Grove Town, Georgia.

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