Small Town Murder - #566 - Zombie Wife - Springfield, Tennessee

Episode Date: February 1, 2025

This week, in Springfield, Tennessee, a very calm 911 call, in the middle of the night, reveals a man who claims to have killed his wife, and put her in a freezer... only to have her "come ba...ck to life", causing him to flee. What detectives discover is a horrible scene, and a VERY dead woman. What happened? Will they catch this man?? It's an absolutley wild story!!Along the way, we find out that this town is a mecca for country music video filming, that it's extremely weird to give a 911 dispatcher a totally calm recounting of a murder, and that if you shoot someone, partially dismember, and freeze them, they definitely aren't coming back to life!!New episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: crimeinsports@gmail.comGo to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:22 You've never heard before hundreds of episodes. Then you get new ones every other week, one crime and sports, one small town murder, and this week is no different. For crime and sports, which you're gonna have access to, we're gonna talk about the whole Kobe Bryant debacle in Colorado, where he was accused of some serious shit and denied it and it cost him a $6 million ring in the end.
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Starting point is 00:03:18 He's it's it's hard names are hard. I'm sorry They're hard from someone who has to read like town names and stuff. It's hard.'s a lot of pronunciations. I just bought four books James. I've just been The covers you mean I think it's time to sit back everybody take a deep breath. Here we go arms to the sky And let's all shout Shut up Give me Murder let's do this everybody here. We let's go on a trip shall we let's do it Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this everybody.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Here we go. Let's go on a trip, shall we? Let's do it. All right, we're going to Tennessee today. We're going to Springfield, Tennessee, which is the one of many, many, many, many Springfields in this country, as we know. It was a, I don't know why that,
Starting point is 00:04:03 it's a very popular name, as we know from like the Simpson stuff when they did the, you know, which Springfield is it? It's, you know, 75s, different Springfields came forward there, so. This is just outside Nashville. It's a suburb, it's about 35 minutes out to Nashville. That's so, really, if you think about it,
Starting point is 00:04:20 in traffic, it's about four and a half hours, if you've ever been to Nashville. It's about four hours to Cosby, Tennessee Which was our last episode attack of the death twins which was crazy obviously the death twins you want to listen to that one population here 18,000 561 so not too big not too small the medium town here Definitely well the median household income here though is pretty low actually for right outside Nashville. It's 50,655 which is almost a lot of bartenders. That's
Starting point is 00:04:50 what it seems like. Almost 20,000 people who can't afford to live in Nashville proper I guess. I don't know but it's on fucking Broadway every night though. That's almost 20,000 less than the national average though. Median home price here 299,300 dollars which is a lot cheaper than Nashville too. So yeah I think that's what it is and the motto here, well there's two of them actually, one is welcome to real Tennessee. Which anybody, yes which anybody who lives like in the sticks would be like you're in Nashville shut up.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah you're like 20 minutes from you know a famous person's bar. I don't want to hear that shit And then also lives down the street from you fucker And then also world's finest dark-fired tobacco That's a lot of you got that world's finest right here. It's not North Carolina dark fire apparently toast them in dark fire history of this town the courthouse for the county, Robertson County Courthouse, was completed in 1879,
Starting point is 00:05:49 and then they put a big clock tower, which is kind of what this town is known for, is their clock tower in the center of town, like back to the future style. They popped that in 1930, and then they put it on their historic list of National Register of Historic Places in 1978, so that'll be there for a while.
Starting point is 00:06:08 In 1923, they hosted a minor league baseball team of Kentucky-Illinois-Tennessee League called the Springfield Blanket Makers. Nothing strikes fear in the heart of opponents like facing a team full of blanket makers. Now here's some... Like the fucking quilters. Now they have that old school downtown. It's got the clock tower and all that. This is a very kind of Americana looking small town.
Starting point is 00:06:38 So there has been a shitload of things filmed here. Mainly country music videos because that's, you know, they're looking to pretend they're from here. So, you know I'm from this tiny town even though I live in Nashville. Yeah, okay, even though I live in LA Yeah, I love these guys live in fucking Brentwood and they're like doing videos in this town My god Luke Bryan did a yeah did a video here But I got a beer in my hand is the video. I don't know anything about these Laney Wilson Did one called she sounds like a drunk and it's called watermelon moonshine I was like Laney Wilson sounds like a girl like I know this chick Laney. She's kind of a drunk
Starting point is 00:07:21 But before she gets really tank. She's a nice girl.'s a nice lady and then she turns into a drunken small hint of piss cuz yeah And by 1 a.m. She'll swing on you so watch out for that You want to separate by 12? Then Tyler Hubbard did so I don't know who that is small town me Ashley cook with an e did running back at the high school run back running back running on back to high school then she did all I get it because these things like to do double meaning of running back yeah she's running back to a guy but he was probably the running back probably I'm
Starting point is 00:08:00 sure if this she also didirt On Em on Main Street. Like her boots or her ass maybe. Frito Lay commercial they did here. Dan and Shay, I don't know who that is, Steal My Love. Ingrid Andrus, More Hearts Than Mine, Tim McGraw, Neon Church, Lady Antebellum, they're awful. Jesus Christ. Goodbye Town.
Starting point is 00:08:31 They're not Lady A.J. I know they are. It's gross. Yeah, yeah. Kit Moore's Young Love and then a violent heart feature film with Mary J. Blige was in it. That's weird. Oh, that's interesting Nashville Nashville the ABC show Still the King which is a sitcom with Billy Ray Cyrus
Starting point is 00:08:54 Holy shit The last days of Frank and Jesse James from 86 that stars Willie Nelson Johnny Cash and Chris Christopherson there. That's pretty neat I've never seen that somehow. I don't know how the hell we missed that one. I've never even heard of it. Quickly reviews of this town. There's a few that are good though. Five stars. Stick with me here because this one is real messed up in the words. It's it's dangerous downer and you are downer. Oh my god. I guess that's there in... Downer.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Downer. They sounded it out, James. If you don't know... And U is a U, by the way. If you don't know were you going, W-U-R. W-U-R. Were you going...
Starting point is 00:09:39 Somebody's fucking with us. Or were, and that's spelled regularly, W-E-R-E, you et gotta get, or get at get out of there and Don't go to 21 if you not about that They're serious. This is not a joke. I don't think that's the best they can do. That's what I really think All right, then I'll stay out of 21 because 21, because I don't think I'm about that. And that is T-H-E-T. I don't think I'm about that.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I might be about that, but not that. I don't have that. I don't have that. I ain't got it. Three stars, I live in Springfield. That's good. At first it was peaceful, nothing really going wrong. Nothing really wrong going on,
Starting point is 00:10:23 but it's like everything changed overnight. There was a car chase on my road and they literally drove through my yard. Well, the whole town's gone to shit because there's one car chase. Maybe Luke Bryan was just filming a video. That's it. Maybe you should have cheered him on as he drove by, tore up your lawn. Very scary. Now I'm hearing of more and more vehicle thefts.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Hearing of, by the way, which is just my friend told me she heard a car got stolen. Yeah. I love Springfield, but we may have to move. You know, I heard of some stuff. It was a car chase. Wow. This is how dumb people are. Springfield parks are beautiful though. Nothing negative about them. I had my gender reveal at J Travis park. It was a beautiful day and the kids got to play and feed the ducks. Not the ducks, the ducks. The air conditioning ducks. They got to feed them. Here you go. That makes them keep blowing the cool air
Starting point is 00:11:12 the way you like it. You gotta feed them once in a while. Three stars. It's a good place to love as long as you have friends. No one has spelled everything correctly. They're all idiots. They're all idiots. This is is crazy what the fuck is happening okay then finally two stars gotta get through this you'll either die of heart disease or a meth lab
Starting point is 00:11:35 explosion here that's terrific those are your two two top causes of death they go we got a body on the ground like heart disease or meth lab meth lab, okay Are they chartered is it on the inside? Where is it? I've lived in Springfield my entire life in the place could use a few improvements to say the least With all of the communities around Nashville have grown and drastically improved Springfield remains very much the same as it was before Nashville blossomed This is a telltale sign that things probably aren't going the way they should. The only reason that people should move here is that the housing
Starting point is 00:12:11 prices are fairly inexpensive. However, the transplants who moved to the Nashville area must be smart because they're moving everywhere except here. They're avoiding this place like the fucking plague is what they just said. That is amazing. And there's one, this person, they say they live in constant fear. A man was shot right in front of my house recently. I don't think things are going well here. Things to do, very quickly, the Sunflower Festival. And I say very quickly because there really isn't shit.
Starting point is 00:12:43 There's hay rides around a farm 10 acres of sunflowers to view One of their activities is selfies in the sunflowers just shit you can do yourself This is not great ten dollars. That's what you have to pay to get Oh third No helicopter rides, too You can take a helicopter ride over the sunflowers for 35 bucks. That said, let's talk about some murder everybody. Let's do it. Wow, is this a weird case.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Okay, 2014 we're going to go to. So everything's the same pretty much. Your phone looks the same, everything's the same. Same shit here. Joseph Leonard Parker, let's talk about. Joe Parker. Joe's born December of 1968, December 27th to be exact here. Matt Joe's kind of a decent sized guy,
Starting point is 00:13:30 six foot tall, 200 pounds. He ends up meeting his wife Samantha through a mutual friend. So a friend of theirs said, I think you two would go good together and kind of set them up on a blind date. Next thing you know, they're gonna get married. So that's nice. Of course.
Starting point is 00:13:47 He meets Samantha K. Klaus with a C, C-L-O-U-S-E, Klaus. And she's born on August 16th, 1970. She's originally from Ohio, Galeon, Ohio, G-A-L-I-O-N. I don't know, I never heard of that before, but don't know where it is, but it's there. Her parents are David and Peggy Ann. Oh. Isn't that very, yeah. I've never heard Peggy Ann.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Peggy Ann is like the most middle America thing you could ever get. There's Peggy and there's something Ann, and she's Peggy Ann. Peggy Sue, but I've never heard of Peggy Ann. Peggy Ann is even more like. Yeah, that's more small town. That's a smaller town than small town. Yeah, Peggy and is even more like yeah, that's more small town
Starting point is 00:14:25 That's a small town small town. Yeah, Peggy Sue is like you fucking Provincial bitch. What are you doing? This is crazy Falutin Peggy Peggy Sue thinking your hot shit looking down her nose at everybody all the Peggy ands of the world. Yeah She's got three brothers Sam does Samantha goes bys of the world. She's got three brothers, Sam does. Samantha goes by Sam, by the way. She's got three brothers, and she attended Greenbrier High School.
Starting point is 00:14:52 That's about the background on her. She's known as kind of a very outgoing, socially person. She'll talk to everybody. She's worked in stores, and she's known as like, all the regulars know her, and she's real as like, all the regulars know her and she's, you know, real kind of socially outgoing. He seems less than socially outgoing, which is odd because he's a salesman. Yeah, what the fuck dude?
Starting point is 00:15:15 Which is very strange. So maybe he's socially outgoing at work, but not at home. At home he's like, I've done enough of that. Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, I can relate to that. I gotta be pretty outgoing here on the road, but then at home I'm like, all right done enough of that. Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, I can relate to that. I gotta, it'd be pretty outgoing here on the road, but then at home I'm like, all right, leave me alone. Let's all relax.
Starting point is 00:15:30 So they get married in 2002. Okay, now she worked at Baker's Market for several years where she would be the greeter in the morning. And everybody said she was outgoing, she never met a stranger. She's very, very much into football also. Big football fan. Loves it, loves Alabama, college football,
Starting point is 00:15:53 Crimson Tide and Tennessee Titans football, which makes sense because that's where they play. So yeah, that would make perfect sense here. Her daughter, Mackenzie, Mackenzie, by the way, I don't know if Mackenzie is their daughter together but she is definitely her daughter. It's definitely her daughter but Mackenzie's last name is Parker. So I don't know if he adopted her or if they had her ten years before they got married or what but she's you
Starting point is 00:16:22 know she's in her early 20s in 2014 so and they got married in 2002 so like I said I don't know if they had a long-term relationship before that or she brought her into the relationship and it was just like you know he adopted her and that's dad now I'm not sure oh they got the same last name got it yeah she he does the daughter has the husband's last name so she said my mom's an Alabama roll-tide kind a loving kind of woman Yeah, that's what she said. She's all into that now like I said Mackenzie born in 1991 here now Neighbors describe them and we'll get to their house and all that we know exactly where they lived and everything
Starting point is 00:16:59 Neighbors described the couple as quiet and introverted But not rude just they'll wave to you if you drive by. They keep to themselves which is strange because at both of their jobs they both have to be super outgoing so it's very strange and at home they are both considered by all their neighbors and people who like them as you know they're nice people they keep to themselves type of deal. One friend said they didn't go out very often and they seemed to prefer each other's company to others.
Starting point is 00:17:28 That's nice. Which is great. That's awesome. He sells used Toyotas. Oh, that's his job. Yes, apparently. That's the best used car to sell. Yeah, they last forever and you can make decent money selling used cars.
Starting point is 00:17:43 That's not bad. But it's obviously not the... doesn't have the best stigma to it. People don't go, oh, you're a used car salesman? Awesome, high five. Wow, sexy. You find me a Corolla. I mean, it's literally a cliche, a crisis, guys like a used car salesman.
Starting point is 00:18:00 So that's tough. But they seem to have a happy marriage. They are both extremely proud of Mackenzie the daughter. There's never any problems there you know the daughter says she's loved by both parents and came up in a loving environment and Everything else like that, but you know there's some stress approaching and we'll talk about that in 2014 some stress in the marriage They buy a house in 2006 as when they they buy this, four years after they get married. They bought it for $139,000 in 2006.
Starting point is 00:18:34 So top of the market back then. That was at the top. Wow, that's the top and that's the most it was. That's the top. Wow. Yeah, because I'll tell you about it later, but that's not too far off of what it was sold for recently. So it's... Wow. Yeah, cuz I'll tell you about it later, but that's not too far off of what it was sold for recently So it's wow. Yeah, it's they bought it at the tippy top. It's a three-bedroom two-bath
Starting point is 00:18:52 1,549 square foot house so a couple of a child and sure it's a nice little family house here. It is at 2 246 Clydesdale Lane in Springfield here. The current's estimate is $325,100 by the way in case you're wondering. So their neighbors here, one neighbor Chloe, Chloe Crabtree is her name. She's 23. She lived with her parents next door to the Parkers for the last few months. And she described Joseph Parker as a very stern man who kept to himself. She didn't know him very well though, so stern might just be like his resting face, you know what I mean, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:31 This isn't based on, yeah, just looks stern and goes in, oh, he's a stern guy, because that's how you judge your neighbors. You see him for two seconds and you make a whole back story on him. He just got off work. What's wrong with you? As selling used Toyotas.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Right. No thanks. I'm not happy. No, I was selling used Toyota's right. No, thanks No He's shit. This young lady said I didn't really see them go out He did he always parked inside the garage and I would see him leaving in the mornings I rarely saw her car leave They were very quiet the kind of people who never left the blinds open which is a good way to describe someone. There's either Blinds open look in our house people or there's leave us the fuck alone people.
Starting point is 00:20:09 It's one of those. I'm blinds close guy. Yeah, that's weird actually, cause you're. Is it? I know, right? No, for you it's strange because. I know, I know. Yeah, you're. It doesn't seem like that, but that's.
Starting point is 00:20:18 No. I got shutters for, I don't even have blinds. I don't want. I got shutters. I shut those motherfuckers so. If I wanted people to watch what I was doing, I'd live in the yard. That's my people to watch what I'm doing. I'd leave the I'd have no treatments on the way. Yeah. So I hate feeling like I'm in a fishbowl being looked at. I don't like that either. So and I like dark. Oh yeah. I love dark. I'll take. I'll take some dark too. So Rhonda Haley lived across the street from the Parkers for about eight years and
Starting point is 00:20:47 She described the Parkers as a bit reclusive. She said now we're going full-on to reclusive which is That's a big step from you know, not that outgoing. Yeah to reclusive Always keeping to themselves she said they have a grandson that they know of and a grown daughter because Mackenzie has two little kids by 2014 and They've recently thrown a birthday party for the grandson in their front lawn. So they go that we saw You know, we know that so that was nice Then she said I never really talked to him and I never saw him chatting with neighbors or anything Usually he'd be working in the yard or working on his car
Starting point is 00:21:24 He would wave or not at you when you drove by. Sounds like a great neighbor. Leaves you the fuck alone. If you drive by, they're friendly enough to wave at you in case you ever had a problem or something. You know them by face. And they keep to themselves. Terrific.
Starting point is 00:21:37 He's in the garage with some grease on him. That's a great guy. And if they were like loud and having parties and social, they'd be complaining about that. You can do no right with people. You know what I mean? You really can't. Not in your neighborhood. No, you can't.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Everybody thinks their neighbors are strange. Yeah, they're supposed to be. They're supposed to be. So as for Sam, the wife here, they said this person also said that she rarely left the house, rarely saw Sam leave the house. She hadn't been working either. So now Joseph's had saw Sam leave the house. She hadn't been working either, so. Now Joseph's had some issues in the past.
Starting point is 00:22:08 This is why I don't know if they had a relationship previously because it sounds like he was kind of a, kind of a single guy who was out fucking up and then settled down and got married. Yeah, I found several arrests for him in the past. And nothing major, not, you know, he didn't go fucking go crazy and go punch a bank teller Try to steal the money out of the drawer or anything, but several low crimes is it's it's a pattern. It's a pattern He was arrested for a driving under the influence of liquor in April. I'm sorry in August of
Starting point is 00:22:43 1990 and he ends up doing a plea deal for that. Then again, on January of 1991, he's arrested for driving under the influence of liquor. Just a few months later. That's not good, that's not good. Then he was arrested for MUN Misdemeanors Title 59. I don't know what that means so I looked it up and it said the Title 59 of the Tennessee Code is about mines and mining including laws
Starting point is 00:23:10 that can result in criminal and civil penalties for example making false statements and statistical reports as a violation of Title 59. I don't know it's it prohibits making false statements and statistical reports and establishes criminal and civil penalties for violations of the Tennessee mineral surface mining law I Don't know what the fuck he was doing back then he's selling Toyota I mean, maybe maybe that's that falls under the like rolling back odometers or something That's possible the making false statements and statistical reports, but's not mining this is about the mining industries maybe he was into
Starting point is 00:23:46 mining before that we don't know there's a reckless driving also he's busted for bad driver then in this isn't great then in uh in a while October of 1993 patronizing a prostitute he's arrested for he had a tough few years he had a few years where he was drinking and going, looking for comfort in the wrong arms and everything else here. So Mackenzie's born in 91. It doesn't sound like they were like together and having a serious relationship during this time.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And if they were, then Sam is a very forgiving person. She's a sweetheart. Then in 98, he's busted for improper tag, which, whatever, who gives a shit about that? I don't care about that. So there we go. So the little thing, see what I mean? Nothing crazy where you go, oh, red flag,
Starting point is 00:24:32 look out for this guy. He went through some shit there for a minute. He obviously, yeah, had a little bit of a problem. And he was a young man at that point, too. He was in his 20s, I mean, people go through shit. Yeah, he seemed to have his shit together by now anyway, or at least by the 2000s. But by 2014, things are not going swimmingly at all.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Joe has been laid off from the Toyota dealership. Oh, fuck. That's not good. And the house is inching toward foreclosure. Not good. He figured he would be able to find a solution, but the months tick by and nothing's coming up. He's not getting any other jobs.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Bills are piling up that they can't afford to pay. And now he didn't know what to do. His house then ends up going into foreclosure. So he's going to lose everything here. These people are going to lose their home and everything else. So this is a lot of pressure on a relationship obviously By the way never any domestic disputes or anything like that The daughter says they don't fight
Starting point is 00:25:33 Neighbors don't even scream at each other. There's no that this isn't the house where oh god those two are gonna kill each other one Yeah, so as their anniversary approaches their 12th and a wedding anniversary is approaching We're gonna have a house we're gonna lose our home fuck so that's approaching in 2014 and the financial shit is really starting to get to everybody really He said Joe is telling people that he had talked to that the inability to meet what his wife expects of him is really kind of bumming him out, basically. He feels like he's a loser, and he feels like he's a failure,
Starting point is 00:26:14 and that's how everybody, anybody feels at that point. So on the day of their anniversary, apparently he's just really, really, really on edge and stressed and Tight as a fucking drum at this point November 4th is their big day November 4th 2014 is their 12th wedding anniversary So nobody hears from for a couple of days From their anniversary people you'll leave them alone on their anniversary, and then they kind of both of them kind of drop out of
Starting point is 00:26:46 Communication for a couple days, but that's not abnormal for them. They can be a little reclusive, so if they don't get back to you in two days, they'll get back to you in three, don't worry about it. Then on November 7th, 2014, early in the AM, so this is the night of the sixth really, if we're thinking about it, terms of how humans do things.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Joseph at 2.45 a.m. calls 911. Okay. And says some wild shit. And his tone is very much like, hello. He sounds like he's politely ordering pizza. That's what he sounds like. Or like trying to be extra polite at the Chinese place so they understand what he's fucking saying and you can get the order right.
Starting point is 00:27:28 That's what he sounds like, literally. So they say, 911, what's the location of your emergency? And he says, yeah, which is a great start to a 911 call. Yeah. That's should I be even doing this? He says, two, four two four six Clydesdale Lane She says can you spell it for me? He says see L Y D E S D A L E And they said you're in Springfield
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah, and he said yes Springfield, Tennessee. It's out by Oakland farms by the way. Oh boy Is there an argument over what fucking subdivision this is in with the neighbors later. It is hilarious. What people argue about on the internet will be our downfall as a world. It's not even in that neighborhood. It's crazy. So the dispatch says, okay, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:28:18 And had no idea what she was about to hear on the other end. He said, quote, all right, this is what's happened. Oh boy. We've been married 12 years. Oh boy. Oh boy. Here we go. All right this is what's happened. So I got married 12 years ago. Uh oh. All right is just as bad as yeah by the way for an opener here. We've been married 12 years. On the 4th, which would have been two nights ago, at 4am, I shot my wife in the temple of her head. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I thought I'd killed her, and I put her in the freezer out in the garage. Uh huh. Okay. Now the time I want is just silent like yeah, I'm taking this all in you don't want to interrupt somebody while they're telling you this shit So he says quote I checked on her tonight, and she's not dead Okay, yeah, let's fucking unpack this he is saying I shot my wife in the temple two days ago with a 38 by the way we find out damn and then I put her in a fucking freezer for two days and she's alive. That's what he's saying zero degrees in there frozen solid but alive. Okay she's not dead. She's got a big hole in the temple of her head and to get her body moved around in there I think I broke her
Starting point is 00:29:45 wrist. Real calm. He says, you know, she was frozen, first of all, they don't know. You know, we have no idea. You're the only one who knows. Yeah, all right, and you know, all bad starts. This whole thing is like, yeah, I'll take a large pepperoni. Let me get one of those dinner salads and, um,
Starting point is 00:30:10 what's your specials with pizza and yeah, breadsticks. You guys got, how are your breadsticks? Yeah, let's get an order of those in there too. Why not? Extra ranch. Thanks. Boy, is he good at small talk? It's what these are. He's a salesman. Yeah. So he says, yeah, uh, to get her body moved around in there I think I broke her wrist, you know, she was frozen from being in the in the thing She's been in the thing for 48 hours now This is no crank call
Starting point is 00:30:37 Which is probably important to say at this point And the casualness of his voice you need to say it's not a crank call because he sounds so casual you're like, get the fuck out of here, this guy is full of shit. Wow. Wow, this is no crank call. I need somebody to get out there and help her out. Help her out. Help her out.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I've cleared the premises. I got away, you know. I suppose, you're telling me I'm not gonna be there um but I promise you this is a legit call and I need somebody to get out there and help her because I love I still love her and it's hard hard to believe that after that you know but um I need you to get somebody out there to help her Okay, man So nine one one is on the other line by the way He had shot her in the fucking temple with a 38 caliber handgun. Yeah, they got an argument. That's what happened and
Starting point is 00:31:37 He by the way was will fly. Well wait till it comes up when we'll talk about they said Dispatch, okay. Yeah. Alrighty, okay, what happened to cause you to do that? Oh. He says, it's a long story, I don't wanna get into it. I don't wanna get into it. It's a whole ass book, lady.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I don't wanna get into it. You're on the, this is the time to get into it, bro. I don't wanna get into it. You're on the this is the time to get into it, bro. I don't want to get into it Just just want to get into getting somebody out there to help her It's I left the front door open. I left all the lights on in the house So it would be kind of easy to spot you'd be able to see that's nice It's the last house on the right on Clydesdale Lane But I left the front door open and she's in the garage you go through the kitchen to get into the garage
Starting point is 00:32:31 He's like there's pepsi's in the fridge on the way through there you can grab some if you want don't worry Jesus Christ, so You'll see her once you get in the garage, and she's a mess He says she can't talk You'll see her once you get in the garage, and she's a mess. Yeah, he says She can't talk No, no, he's saying she's alive Which she's abs we find out what happened wow is No, no no no no she's a mess. She can't talk I could get her to blink oh
Starting point is 00:33:02 Wait what shaking the freezer around? What are you talking about? Those things are frozen. Blink once means yes, blink twice means no, and you know? We had a whole conversation. You know, we chit-chatted for a bit. She was chilly, so I said, okay. Do you need a sweater? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:21 No? Okay. Blink twice. No? All right. Uh, so I told her I'm going to go down the road 10 to 15 miles and I'm going to call him nine one one and get you some help out here. He has out of his mind.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I'm going to take off and there'll be people here. I've, where else are you going to be? He said I've, um, I thought, I thought she's been dead two days now And when I checked on her she was still alive. She's been frozen for two days Wow, there's no way somebody's alive for two days. No freezer, you know frozen solid and especially with what he did also 38 in your head and among the other shit and oh boy, and when I checked on her she was still alive He's like how weird is that?
Starting point is 00:34:07 His voice is like strange right? She's been frozen for two days She's frozen solid It's amazing she's still alive What the f- I would say so yeah Yeah Absolutely
Starting point is 00:34:20 He said I shot her with Oh um she's got a big A big hole in the temple of her head, right? You know, he said I shot her with a 38 caliber handgun and there's a big hole in the temple or of her head I didn't see an exit wound So she's got a 38 calibers bouncing around tearing her brain up and she's frozen solid but she's Surprisingly fucking stout, actually. She's hanging in there.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I got her some Advil and I'll be down the road a bit. I'll be over here. They say, what is her name? And he says, Samantha Parker. They said, is she a white female? And he says, yes. And they go, okay, how old is she? 43.
Starting point is 00:35:02 You know, they said, and how long did you leave? How long ago did you leave there? Ah, an hour ago. And they said, and that's the last time you saw her? He said, yeah, that's the last time I saw her. And the dispatch says, and she's in the garage. And Joseph said, yes, she's still in the garage. I made her as comfortable as I could make her.
Starting point is 00:35:21 She tried to drink a little water. She's, she tried to picture him with a cup trying to pour water in her mouth. Uh, you know, it's been, uh, and then it's an audible and says, leave her gone. She's, she's in bad shape. I really need someone out there to help her. And they said in the addresses two, four, six, Clydesdale lane. And he said and the address is 246 Clydesdale Lane, and he said yes ma'am, and they said okay what's your name? And he says, uh, my name is Joe, which sounds made up but it's actually his name. It sounds super made up at that point.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I'll just leave it at that, you know, I don't want to get arrested and all that so uh, oh okay. We know who she is, her husband's name is Joe, you're calling you from your address of the house that you own I don't want to give away too much info on myself though. I don't want to tell on me I've just told you how I've murdered and D fucking and disposed of my dead wife Yeah, and told you my address her name. What's going on? It's our wedding anniversary, but I'll give you a first name That's it. I don't want'll give you a first name, that's it. I don't want to get arrested so my name is Joe.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Wow. Yeah. He said, we don't have a history of domestic disputes, you know, we never had to call the police or nothing, we just had a real bad night and except for the gun around and got myself in trouble so anyway, I really need somebody out there to go out there and help her. Okay. And they said, okay, we'll send someone out there to her.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Sure will, yeah. And he says, ma'am, it's like urgent, you know? We know. We know, the gunshot wound is frozen solid, we get it. Yeah, that's a. She's real thirsty. Immediate medical, we'll bring water. Yeah, we'll have them stop for a Fiji,
Starting point is 00:37:04 don't worry about it. I mean, she's dying, you know? She's got a big hole in the temple where the temple of your head is, you know what I mean? In case she doesn't. Right behind your eye? The little soft spot there. And dispatch says, right.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Like, yeah, I know what a fucking temple is. And he says, hopefully you know. No, I know what a fucking temple is. And he says, uh, hopefully you know. No, I'm a 911 operator who doesn't know what a temple is. That's never heard it before. I love her. I still love her, you know? I've loved her every day since I've been married to her. We just had a rough stretch here.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And anyway, checked on her and she's still alive and I want, I want somebody to help her that knows what they're doing. And gotta say I am inaudible so. So they said, okay, we'll send somebody out there and he says, all right, what was your first name? This is not, you didn't just call customer service. Hi, what's your name? You sound nice. I'm single.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Like they just called the pottery barn for some late shit they ordered from a fucking, like, what are you talking about? There's one in stock still? What's your first name? What's your first name? I want to get you. I don't want to call and get somebody else that doesn't. I want to call and get you.
Starting point is 00:38:13 We've already gone through this. So he's the dispatcher says, I'm not going to give you my name, sir. No, no, you fucking don't need my name. He said, okay, that's fine. He said, make a note on there that I left the front door open and all the lights are on and to go to the garage She can't yell for you. She can't yell, but if you go to the garage That's where you'll see her once you get to the garage. We got it Joe We yeah, because you shot her and then froze her we got it
Starting point is 00:38:39 And they said okay, we'll send somebody out there and he he says, she needs, you know, paramedics. Joe! Joe! Fucking, for both, son of a bitch. Shut up! You have made it. Don't ever tell me this guy's reclusive and not conversational. Because he's the most conversational.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And if you heard his voice is just fucking wild. It's just so like, well, you know, here I am. Like he called and like, like this is a call for nothing. Like I'm just bored on the road and I had no one to talk to. So I called 911 so I wouldn't fall asleep. Like this dispatcher probably thinks this guy, I'm going to get there. There's going to be nothing there. This guy's full of shit.
Starting point is 00:39:20 He's just bored. The road's real icy and I need to keep somebody on the phone and get something. I'm sleepy, you know, it's late night. Keeps me from having a shit a lot, you know what I mean? So yeah, he says she needs, you know, paramedics, she needs everything. She needs an ambulance, you know, she needs trauma. She's trauma. She's trauma. I've heard she's drama, but I've never heard she's trauma. That's what it is. Johnny trauma. Johnny trauma. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:49 She's a trauma queen. This one real trauma queen. Whoa. I mean, I mean, she's a trauma patient. She might need a helicopter. No. Okay, Joe, we'll determine that. You can put her in the back of a pickup truck
Starting point is 00:40:05 It really doesn't matter this plan not to disrespect her But it's not gonna hurt her condition is what I'm getting at She's gonna be just as dead when she gets there, you know, so please get somebody to help her And dispatch says okay Joseph. Okay. Thank you. And he thank you and he says okay and hangs up Yeah, he didn't try to correct her. How'd you know? My name's Joseph How'd you know Joseph's long for Joe? So police arrive and Joe is not at home. He is, like he said, he's gone.
Starting point is 00:40:36 They get there, the front door was open, all the lights are on, just like he said. Just Joseph is not there, just like he said. So they entered, they followed his instructions. They went through the kitchen, went to the garage. What else are you gonna do at this point? So they described the officers who first arrived described the couple's home as very clean One says it was immaculate not a speck of dust spotless. It was real estate clean So he spent the last day and a half cleaning up cleaning this place up man So there's an upright freezer by the way. This isn't like a chest freezer
Starting point is 00:41:08 It's one of those upright big ones and they found they open it up. There's Samantha Parker frozen fucking solid Dead as fuck by the way, not even close to alive. Yeah, she has been dead She's frozen solid in there and she's been partially dismembered as well. Oh No, yeah has been dead. She's frozen solid in there and she's been partially dismembered as well. Oh no. Yeah. Yeah. And they think that happened. Broken wrist. Yeah. They think that happened. They think that happened in the garage based on, you know, finding some forensic evidence here. So he shot his wife in the temple with a 38. Yeah. Put her in a freezer, dismembered her, put her in a freezer for two days and then called and said she needs paramedics. I gave her some water a minute ago. I gave her some water and she blinked yes once for yes and twice for no. She's missing
Starting point is 00:41:54 things man. Dude, this is fucking crazy. They said she'd been dead for days. Obviously it was clear. Uh, she was pronounced dead at the scene. Um, you know, they had the county emergency emergency medical services person there because they thought they didn't know what he was mistaken about. Was he mis- What is going on? Maybe he did shoot her, but it wasn't two days ago. It was just now.
Starting point is 00:42:13 You know what I mean? And maybe they do need to help or maybe she is alive. Maybe he just put her in this freezer and she's dying in there or something. So they didn't know. But yeah, they said that basically the Russell Gupton, the Robertson County Emergency Medical Services Assistant Director said that he was either lying or imagining things. It was out of his mind.
Starting point is 00:42:33 He said there's no possibility, there was no possibility of her being alive at all. Dead as dead can be for a long time. So yeah, they said he had definitely attempted to dismember her in the garage. She was partially dismembered and stuffed into a freezer. Yikes. They said, I don't know if we're going to be able to determine when he killed her exactly, they said, because she's frozen. That's, you know, that's a tough one. But I would believe him that he probably
Starting point is 00:43:02 did it at four o'clock in the morning on their anniversary. Seems right. They said, I'm not sure at this point whether we'll be able to determine how long she's been in the freezer either. So they have no clue. So apparently he contorted his wife into this fucking, into a weird position
Starting point is 00:43:19 to fit her in a freezer. The hole in the side of her head was, it's a fucking big hole. It's a 38 to the headache. I mean, it's a, she's not surviving that, obviously. It's like the opening, when they first get to the gem saloon in Deadwood when Trixie shoots the guy, except not with a derringer with a fucking 38. So he left her and just carried on with his day after he killed her.
Starting point is 00:43:43 He's been doing normal shit the last two days. That's what's crazy. Just, yep, cleanin', doin' his thing, whistlin', just tryin' to figure out how to fix it. But apparently, shit started to unravel with him and he just said, I'm gonna go check on her for some reason and he thought she was alive and I don't know. I don't understand, she's covered in ice for Christ's sake
Starting point is 00:44:02 but he said she was blinking. And that was that. So the neighbors, news spreads quickly in this neighborhood, like fire gone. So they were like, Holy shit. One of the neighbors said the last time she saw Joseph Parker was two days ago when he was leaving the home at about 5 30 p.m. Whoever she said she noticed something strange at the home at about 1 30 on Friday. She said I was walking my dog
Starting point is 00:44:26 and I saw their back light come on, so someone was definitely in there, and I thought it was unusual because they're never up that early. 1.30 a.m. isn't up early, that's up late. That's staying up late. I would think, yeah. Unless they went to bed at four o'clock in the afternoon,
Starting point is 00:44:39 that's a very odd time to be up. They went to bed at nine p.m. and they're already awake. Yeah, so it seems like they're not usually up that late is probably what it is. Rhonda Haley across the street from them said, it's kind of scary. You just don't see that every morning when you get up that your neighbor has killed his wife. So it's a little unnerving. Something had to have happened to him or her something.
Starting point is 00:45:01 So the cops at this point are like, let's give a Joe a shout back, shall we? Let's call him back. Let's get him on the line quick. Yeah. So they call him back. Dispatchers call him back at about 3 45 AM. Hey Joe. And they're like, Joe, how's it going, pal? Um, found your wife super dead by the way. So you did that right anyway. And they said, uh, you know, where are you? Where you at bud? He said, I'm on the interstate to Chattanooga headed to Chattanooga to visit friends.
Starting point is 00:45:31 No, you're not. Okay. This is going to go hang out with my friends at four o'clock in the morning in Chattanooga. I don't think they want you over. Probably not now. So yeah, the the the person, the communications director said he told the communication center he was driving to Chattanooga. Sometimes a suspect will lie to the police So yeah, the person, the communications director said, he told the communications center he was driving to Chattanooga. Sometimes a suspect will lie to the police
Starting point is 00:45:49 about his or her whereabouts after a crime, so I'm not sure how valid the information is, they said. Good point, yeah. Good point. This guy seems like he at least thinks he's on the road to Chattanooga. I'll put it that way. He might be in fucking New Mexico. We have no idea, but he thinks he's going to Chattanooga
Starting point is 00:46:05 to see some friends. He then said, by the way, and this is all in his very calm, casual tone, he said, not only am I on the way to see my friends in Chattanooga, but I'm also going to drive through the car dealership that fired me and kill several people there as well. Several, okay. On the way to Chattanooga to see my friends.
Starting point is 00:46:25 You know, I don't want to get all the way to Chattanooga, have to come back. You know how it goes, no one to backtrack. So the Metro Police get over to, they set up a command center at Rivergate Toyota when they search for him. According to officers, he threatened to kill multiple people.
Starting point is 00:46:41 So they have tons of cops in there protecting the people at the car dealership when they get to work and a helicopter circling above the car dealership and everything else. It's a Toyota-thon around here too. For Christ's sake, it's a Toyota-thon. He's driving a white 2007 Toyota Camry, which must piss him off royally, Tennessee plate 682 NHF. So that's what they're looking.
Starting point is 00:47:03 The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation Immediately adds him to the state's top 10 most wanted list fuck yes, and Yeah, he was considered armed and dangerous and a $1,000 reward was issued for any information on his location Can we dig a little deeper for a guy who's currently armed and seeking more victims? He has a woman a partially dismembered, and said he's going to his old employment to murder several people. To kill multiple people, was his quote.
Starting point is 00:47:32 A grand. A grand. And he's armed and batshit is the problem. Never mind dangerous, he's armed and crazy as fuck right now and has nothing to lose. $1,000. So the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation and the US Marshals Service, as well as the local police,
Starting point is 00:47:48 launched a manhunt for him. And so that's what's going on. So they end up, the next day at 3.45 PM, they figure out where he is. 12 hours later. 12 hours after they found Samantha. Jesus. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Here they finally figure out where he is. He is on Highway I-65 in Kentucky. Yeah, not even in the state. Not near Chattanooga. So it is near mile marker 12 on Interstate 65. They initiate a traffic stop on him. Okay. And this is a bunch of cop.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I mean this isn't one cop. Barney Fife isn't coming up. License and registration. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is out of the car with your hands up and tons of guns drawn and yeah. Spike strips and shit. Walk backwards toward me and all that,
Starting point is 00:48:38 toward the sound of my voice and all that kind of shit going on. Pull your shirt up. Yeah, as you're doing it. Pull your shirt up, turn around and walk backwards toward me, interlock your hands on the back of your shirt up. Yeah, as you're doing it. Pull your shirt up, turn around, and walk backwards toward me. Interlock your hands on the back of your fucking head. So he's being pursued by all these people. He pulls over.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Police are trying to contact with him. He won't do anything. He's in the car. He's in the car. He's in the car. A little bit of a standoff. Then they say, well, fuck it. We got gotta approach.
Starting point is 00:49:05 What are we supposed to do, just sit here all night with him, all day? Wait, right. 345 on a fucking highway, we gotta get this done and over with. I'm gonna wait this fucker out. So they start to approach the car, blows his fucking brains out.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Ah, Joe! Shoots himself in the fucking head in the car. Kaboom, done. Yeah. So, yeah, that's 345, they come up and they find him in the car, they hear the gunshot, they I assume take a step back for a second, and once they saw brain matter on the windows, they probably went forward a little bit more, and he's pronounced dead at the scene. So Joe has had quite the week.
Starting point is 00:49:44 And he took all of that Horrible ride with him. We know nothing nothing Fuck no shit. He just went we don't know where he went He just went all around that his cell phone was like on and off so they could ping him once in a while But not all the time He was smart enough to turn his phone off when he didn't want to be found So he turns his phone off on and off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:06 We know nothing about what this guy did. No. And he didn't like, he like called his brother and spilled it or he just drove around. No Chattanooga friends. No Chattanooga friends. We don't know that he has friends even in Chattanooga. We have no idea.
Starting point is 00:50:19 He doesn't even has friends. We don't know what the fuck was going on in this guy's head other than. Oh my God. He was bat shit crazy enough to think his wife was still alive after being dead and in a freezer and dismembered for two days. More coding with her eyes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Hmm. It is absolutely bonkers bat shit crazy. So anyway, the next month after all this happens, poor Mackenzie, that's both her parents. That's horrid. This poor fucking young lady is, I don't even know what to think about her, this poor girl.
Starting point is 00:50:50 So there is a, the next month, there is an event called the Wings of Love, which is a ceremony honoring homicide victims in Robertson County that they do every year. So Mackenzie attends this, it's a month after this all happens. So that's real fresh. She says, I'll never have closure
Starting point is 00:51:10 and I'll never have answers. No. No, she'll never get it. She'll never get to sit down with her dad and go, what the fuck were you doing? Why'd you do that? So yeah, there was 25 victims honored during this ceremony and I guess they've been doing it for 17 years
Starting point is 00:51:24 at that point. So if they're been doing it for 17 years at that point. So if they're still doing it, it's 28 now. They said the district attorney said, what we're looking for is to make every year that goes by one where you'll have something to look forward to and you can always come to this program. And Mackenzie, great, thanks. Come by and remember the worst day of your life.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Every year be very sad with some other people. I don't know if that gives you strength or what. I have no idea. I'd rather just not, but that's fine. The idea is fucked up. It's yeah, I guess it's, I mean you don't have to go. It's not mandatory. You can show up if it helps.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Mackenzie said things are kind of like a blur right now. I don't think the loss of my mom has really actually hit us yet. It's been a month. No, that's not going to hit you yet. It's man. She said that she had devoted herself entirely to her children since her parents are have been killed here. Her kids are four years and seven months old. Imagine dealing with a seven month old. Well, this is all happening. So yeah, she said about her mom, Mackenzie said she put everybody before she put herself. She did her best to provide for me and gave me everything I wanted as a child. People keep telling me time heals everything and right now it's only courage that can make us believe that. So one year after the whole deal here,
Starting point is 00:52:43 they hold a memorial here. It's a one year anniversary of the event. Mackenzie holds a little memorial and yeah, she's a little gutter kind of her balance with her now and she says about her mom, she was a great mother. She taught me right from wrong. She taught me what respect was. She taught me how to be nice, how to love, how to be kind, how to be sweet, you name it. I love her and I miss her and I will till the end of time. She loved me from the first time I took my first breath until the day she took her last and I'm forever grateful
Starting point is 00:53:12 for those 22 years of life with her. Today I find myself missing both of them equally. Really? Yeah, she said a lot of people ask me why I'm not angry. And she says, I never saw that of my father. So she says, all I remember about my father is someone, she's my father, and she said, they showed me what it was like to have, what I would like to have in a marriage someday. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:40 You know, minus the temple wound. And so that's, I mean, I don't know, man. She's not mad at her dad. Wow, she's got it together too mentally that she didn't slip up and say something like what he did was ice cold or some shit. Yeah, yeah, for once they didn't say it. Yeah, cold-blooded.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Cold-blooded, so she's trying. One of her cousins said, it's a nightmare. And I still remember the events. And Mackenzie said, it was a very bad night. And I think he just snapped. I know my dad lost his job and the house was in foreclosure. That was the hardest thing that I ever had to go through. It was the hardest thing I will ever experience in my life.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Unless your kid dies, yes, it's going to be, that's crazy. So her spouse or whatever. So yeah, this your kid dies, yes, it's gonna be, that's crazy. So, or a spouse or whatever. So, yeah, this is a lot, man. It's a lot. And she said, I think he just snapped. I don't know. If your identity is, you know, provider and,
Starting point is 00:54:37 that's a lot of these guys that snap and do this and kill their whole family and like run off in the mountains. That's why they snapped. Because they- It's financial and you feel like a they snapped because they feel like a failure and a loser and rather than like, okay, well, let's figure out how to get through it. They're like, well, they can't do it without me. I'll just kill everybody, which is fucking crazy, obviously. So I don't know. It's, it's interesting. So they'd rather feel the hatred of society. Yeah. What he
Starting point is 00:55:00 did rather than the embarrassment of being the failure. Yeah. The embarrassment, I think it's the embarrassment. I think it's the embarrassment. I think they feel like maybe their spouse doesn't respect them anymore or like them or whatever, but I mean, I think that's what a good long-term relationship's supposed to be, is you're supposed to lean on each other through those shit times, and I think that's the point.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I think anyway. Fuck do I know. So one lady here knew Samantha for about 30 years. She said she met Samantha when Samantha was in school with her children. So she's her children's age. And she said that Samantha worked for this lady at the Baker's Market store.
Starting point is 00:55:37 She said everybody knew Sam. She was so full of life. She was a hard worker and she was so funny. We really miss her for that. She's a really worker and she was so funny. We really miss her for that. She's a really sweet and special person and Yeah, she also says it helps to remember the good times together And it means a lot of it means a lot for us Those of us that know
Starting point is 00:55:54 Mackenzie for us to be able to help her get through it because it was so tough on her not only did she lose her Mom, but she lost her dad. Joe Parker was a good guy. I think he just snapped her dad, Joe Parker was a good guy. I think he just snapped. That's what everybody thinks. Everybody thinks. This is completely out of character, apparently. This is just so out of character that the only explanation that they can even put forth is that he must have just snapped. Otherwise. Had to. Otherwise.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Unless he's been a monster that's held this down for so many years. And none of us saw it. Right. And so. And then we're embarrassed. Yep. Now we're the jerk-offs. Nobody likes to feel like that. So, everybody's dead.
Starting point is 00:56:29 If you just say he just snapped, that is the easiest way for your brain to get through it. Sure. He just snapped, it had to be, it's all it could be. So the cousin said, to have forgiveness in your heart and peace, you know she was raised by good parents, meaning about Mackenzie.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Like if she feels this way, they must have been decent parents. Mackenzie said the moments and the memories are what you want to hold onto. And now Sam is buried at Greenbrier Cemetery in Tennessee, and Joseph is buried at the Harpeth Hills Memory Gardens in Nashville. Not just the ditch on the side of the road.
Starting point is 00:57:04 No, they didn't just throw them in there and they weren't buried together or anything like that. Wow. So the house was sold in 2016. Oh God. Twice. First it was sold for 138 grand and then two months later it was sold for 170 grand. So it was sold for a thousand000 less than they bought it for in 2006. That's what happens, man. Yeah. So those 10 years, your house did not go up in value, really, because it went down so much from 2007 to 2008
Starting point is 00:57:36 that it's so long to get back up again. It's worth less than a Camry, probably. Fucking yeah, maybe. So now here are the comments from this article. Oh Jesus, okay. There's an article in one of the local whatever it doesn't matter about it now the Comments under it start out fine And then they really devolved into society And has nothing to do with anything except it's just shitty petty back and forth and it's hilarious. Okay
Starting point is 00:58:07 Sherry posts on November 7th 2014. This is the day this happened by the way the day he was No, I've known Joe for 20 years, but haven't seen him in probably three last time I saw him I was in his house meeting Samantha her laughing at herself at what a neat freak She was my mind can't grasp the picture of this scenario With the mellow Joe that I was around all the times I spent the night at his home when he was a housemate and a friend of mine. God help us I'm telling you even on the phone. He just sounds hey, how's it going? Yeah, right? There's no like mellow Joe still He was the same guy. He just fucking snapped and then went crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I don't know what the hell's going on. Okay, then Alicia chimes in. Oh boy. Alicia is the fire starter here. She says. It's always Alicia. And this is the same day it happened, okay? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Alicia, or Alisha, actually, there's no I-A, so Alisha, L-A-L-I-S-H-A, Alisha? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh bets are off. All bets are off. They don't have to spell shit. Outside of Nashville. So she says it is in all caps not a part of Oakland Farms.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Now we're parsing neighborhoods. Oakland Farms is part of the HOA that we as residents pay for and has underground utilities. Oh, those phone line trash people with their electricity dangling out under the trees and shit. All that spaghetti in the sky over there. Fuck that place. No, we go underground with our stuff. The houses in Saddlebrook, which is technically what they're a part of, use the entrance through Oakland
Starting point is 01:00:02 Farms to get to their house, which I might add that Oakland Farm residents don't like considering we pay for the upkeep in our subdivision. Yeah, these scumbags driving through our neighborhood in their Camrys to get to their Sky neighbors. So then Jay chimes in, this location is in Saddlebrook subdivision, not Oakland Farms. Okay, we get it guys so then DeLuca claps back at Alicia this is all the day of this of death okay November 7th 2014 Alicia Alicia who gives a crap if you like the public using your street this okay period Everybody there's more to this. Oh my god. This is not where it ends. No, this is a story About a murdered woman who's been dismembered and stuffed in a fucking freezer and a guy who snapped after a happy marriage
Starting point is 01:00:58 And went and she blew his fucking brains out and in a matter of three comments It's already a fight. We have devolved to this. I'm telling you, I swear to God now I will look on social media and look at something and I'll go, that's super innocuous. And then I will bet to myself how long it takes in the comments for an argument to start. I literally will go, I'm going say five. Over under five. I will do it all the time. I'm never fucking wrong. I'm always disappointed also. Every time. I'm disappointed.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Yeah, that's not a fun game. Yeah. I'll say five and it'll be three and I'm like, you fucking people. Yeah, you lose every time, man. Oh, it's so fucking bad. But this is, we have got to stop this shit. I don't know how we got to stop social we have to stop with social media. We have to we have It's just we got the public from being a part of anything. It is the social media. This is started this Oh, yeah, nobody would post this on You know nobody would write this to a fucking newspaper editor in nineteen fucking seventy two or something. This is crazy We need less voices to be heard.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Most people are stupid. You didn't say it was in there, he said it's out by Oakland Farms. He didn't say it's in Oakland Farms. In the article of this, it said in Oakland Farms. Okay, well, perhaps the investigator, the fucking guy that wrote the article, drove through Oakland Farms to get there.
Starting point is 01:02:24 They turned in to a sign that said Oakland Farms and said, oh, it's in here. Okay, it's back in the back of Oakland Farms. All right. So who gives a crap if you like the public using your street? This story is about a wife, mother, cousin, and grandmother that just lost her life for nonsense. No one cares about your damn street. People like you are pathetic excuses for adults!
Starting point is 01:02:45 Double exclamation point. My heart goes out to this family and all the people who ever knew her. Truly, we will be missed. Truly spelled wrong, of course. Obviously. True, L-Y. Yeah, not how you spell that.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Okay, Jim Bob chimes in. Hell yeah. I just want everyone to realize that Oakland Farms is not in the legacy subdivision. Who fucking cares? Jim Bob? Jim Bob. Somehow you're giving Jim Bob's a bad name
Starting point is 01:03:18 and that takes a lot to do. Then Dennis chimes in. Look folks, who gives a bright red rat's rump about what street or subdivision this has happened in or about whether or not it's part of the HOA! Six exclamation points. A life has been taken here. A senseless tragedy. Have a little compassion on the friends and family members who may read this article and
Starting point is 01:03:42 your comments. Save your bickering for the sidewalks. My my. Some folks just have zero tact. Prayers for the Klaus family. This is wild. Who the hell just described the color of a rat's ass? It's a bright red rat's rump.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Never heard that before. It's original. I'll give them that. Velinda then chimes in. I can't believe you people are arguing on the name of the subdivision. All of you know the location where this tragedy occurred. Your concern should be more for the families. Shame on you! Shame on you.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Okay, then, Wow chimes in, that's the name. So from what I'm reading, no one wants it to be in their neighborhood as if you in these certain neighborhoods are quote, better than the others that live in Robertson County. I thought we did away with classes of people, but for some of you, I guess not. Just because you live in a certain neighborhood, in a certain home, other people's lives don't matter to you. Good job to your parents because they reared a real caring person that cares about their fellow man.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Wake up people! Please look at what you are putting on here. My thoughts and prayers to go out to both families in this matter, both families are dealing with a great loss. And then finally, Alicia circles back and she's got an answer man, she's got a lot to answer for, okay? She's got a lot to answer for. She has caused much problem. Alicia says, I was only stating where this took place.
Starting point is 01:05:14 The comment about the road was directed to the person that thought it was all the same subdivision. Who fucking cares Alicia? She's got to explain herself. Wow, you are right. The important thing is that we come together for this family. I apologize if I offended anyone or belittled the situation. This is such a tragic situation and my prayers are with all involved. Dude, that is what that's what we've come to in a world. The day this
Starting point is 01:05:39 happens they're fighting over whether or not the street who pays for the upkeep to go drive on It's and how annoyed she is that Joe had to drive down it to get there to murderers How dare he he had to drive through our subdivision to escape that that's bullshit. Oh My god, this is fucking crazy. So there you go everybody that's Springfield, Tennessee and one just a hell of a weird case Just a horrible a fucking weird one. The strangest call to ever happen do yourselves a favor just look up Joseph Parker Tennessee 911 call and it pops up it's all over YouTube Jesus listen to it you will be just I can't even describe to you how just like well anyway real matter-of-fact and calm and chill this guy is on this phone like
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