Small Town Murder - #580 - Beauty Shop Butcher - Roebuck, South Carolina

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

This week, in Roebuck, South Carolina, police are called to beauty salon, to find the owner, horribly attacked & murdered, hanging from a duffle bag strap. There are several suspects, inc...luding her husband, a prisoner who confessed, and a young man, who told everyone that he wanted to date the dead woman. Even with DNA, it's a mystery, until a chance meeting causes a witness to come forward, unraveling the killer's whole world. Was this the only time he's killed?Along the way, we find out that you just can't stop the kids from writing with quill pens, that there's nothing worse than having to cut an annoying person's hair, and that even if someone confesses, there may be someone much guiltier, out there!!New episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: crimeinsports@gmail.comGo to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:56 Let's do this everybody, okay, let's go on a trip shall we we are going to South Carolina this week Okay, fine. This is Roebuck, South Carolina. Our OE Roe bu CK roe buck R-O-E-B-U-C-K, Robuck. Northwestern South Carolina this is. This is nowhere near like Myrtle Beach or anything like that. This is up toward North Carolina and Tennessee and all that over there. So it is about an hour and a half to Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:05:18 That's the closest major city. So you can tell it's up there more. About four hours to Nixonville, South Carolina. That's down by Myrtle Beach Actually, it was our last episode the Ballad of Bambi, which was crazy Definitely crazy episode people living in the in the yard and a tent and then there's murder. It's crazy. This is in Spartanburg County population here 3,482 it's a small town and it was even smaller back when we're gonna talk about it.
Starting point is 00:05:47 So it's very small. Median household income here, the rest of the country, about 69,000 here, 54,153. Lower. Median home price, 275,500. So not bad, but on 54 grand a year, that's a tough one. That's a tough one. History of this town, little bit of it,
Starting point is 00:06:06 it was named for Revolutionary War officer, Benjamin Roebuck. And Roebuck, the town, not the man, is home to the Walnut Grove Plantation, which is a preserved 18th century farmhouse and tourist attraction. And one of the daughters of the original owners, Kate Moore, was a scout for General Daniel Morgan during the Battle of Cowpens. A girl was?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Yeah, she was rocking it out. The county was founded in 1785 and named after the Spartan Rifles, which were a Spartan regiment, which was the local militia during the American Revolutionary War. So they're very much into the Revolutionary War in this part which is nice because there's a lot of parts of South Carolina that are into a different war. The ship the USS Spartanburg County is named after Spartanburg County. Sure. So there's that. Reviews of this town we've never been there. I don't know anything about Roebuck, South Carolina. Here's five stars Roebuck is a small community that's quiet and easy to get around. It's tight-knit safe and serene
Starting point is 00:07:12 I've lived in Roebuck for nine years now and the most danger I've been in is when a snake poked its nose into the family backyard Okay, you really can't no matter how much policing you have I don't think it's gonna help that situation. And you know I think a rural snake. Given the choice I think I'd rather have something I can call the police on depending on how poisonous that snake is. That's what we're talking about because I have like garter snakes in my house they're fine. They don't bother me. All of my closest friends live in Roebuck as well and the town has been a key part of growing up
Starting point is 00:07:44 for all of us. The community keeps as well and the town has been a key part of growing up for all of us The community keeps you grounded and the people are down to earth. It isn't that far from restaurants of the city Making it easy to go to and from what city I have no idea what she would they're talking. What do they consider a city? Not sure four stars I love Roebuck because of the city sound and look loud? Not sure. 4 stars. I love Roebuck because of the atmosphere. Everyone feels like family. I love driving down the road and seeing huge fields of corn and wildflowers. I wish there was a little more to do and more stores and restaurants in Roebuck, but overall
Starting point is 00:08:19 I love living here. Then it wouldn't be a small town that you love with corn. They put those strip malls in the fields where the corn and the wild flowers used to be and then you complain about that Four stars small town. That's the first sentence. We get it around five minutes from the pure countryside Your pure no anything uncut uncut fucking Not stepped on at all. Yeah Fucking not stepped on at all. Yeah Naturally cool and comfortable weather very close distance and easy access to highway 221. Oh, well now I'm gonna move there I wasn't gonna I wasn't into it before but now you say it's close to highway 221
Starting point is 00:08:57 It's where everything's happening on the old highway 221 things to do here. We have the festy fall things to do here we have the FestiFall. Oh ok, it's Festival. FestiFall. Come time travel with us to the back country of South Carolina. No thanks. No. How far? Depends on how far back we're going. We're going to the 70s maybe. Experience life in 1781 during the American Revolutionary War with live demonstrations of cannon fire cooking spinning
Starting point is 00:09:29 camp life music and more. So it's like a 1781 themed joint here, which that's the wrong Renaissance fair man. Yeah, that's Yeah, you show up in your flowing shit dressed like a wizard and they're like the hell you doing boy Wrong with you and then children's activities happening all day including candle dipping quill writing tin punching Tricoran hats you can't get the kids to stop quill writing. That's the thing
Starting point is 00:10:00 My kids the whole growing up. It was just like will you stop it with that quill already put it down You know play a video game or something get on fucking social media Wink asleep in here with all the tin all the it's Constant the tin punching my constant candle dipping we have enough candles kids with your with your tricorn hats quill writing all over The place it's enough damn it. What's a tricorn hat? I guess it's those Yeah, that's has the three different colors. Yeah, they make how do you make that shit a hat? Fuck knows what they're doing down there horn books. I don't know what that is and sweet bags What the fuck is that sweet bags?
Starting point is 00:10:39 This sound like they're just mad living words together now Saturday also there will be a Bluegrass concert. They don't say who will be there, but they'll be playing Bluegrass and they'll be in live and in concert. That said, let's talk about some murder, shall we? All right, let's do this. Let's start out with a young lady here.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Dana Shailene Fowler is how she's born. Dana here, she's born November 16th, 1967 in Spartanburg, which is nearby. That's the city. It's the county seat and all that kind of thing. And she's a really, she's an outgoing girl and all this type of thing and grows up to be real pretty too.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I'll show you a picture over here. She looks a lot like married with children era Christine Applegate. That's who she looks like. Very much like that. Like a- She looks like fun. Yeah, she looks, yeah, she's a pretty girl.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So she looks, like I said, like that picture's from like the late 80s too. She looks like Christine Applegate. Yeah, she does. Big nails and shit, red nails. In high school, she met a young man and got married as soon as they graduated Well smart movement whoo. Yeah, he's like I'm gonna try to lock that down, but didn't work out very well No, they had a daughter named Ashley right away, and then it fell apart after she gave birth You know cuz they were 19 and had a baby and that's a that's difficult. It's not an easy thing
Starting point is 00:12:05 Then she met Paul Michael Satterfield You know, cause they were 19 and had a baby and that's a, that's difficult. It's not an easy thing. Then she met Paul Michael Satterfield. He's known as Mike, Mike Satterfield. He's born in 1962, you know, about five years older. And he, I mean, physically, I don't mean to be shitty to the guy, but. Oh, he won. God damn. This guy looks like a fucking inflated balloon
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah, he's a he's a Peter Griffin. He's a very very Chunky man. Let's just say and not like an attract not like a hot guy either You know what I mean? Not like oh if he was just you know, he's he's big but he's a handsome big He's a yeah, he looks like a guy no matter what he weighed. He't look very good, and he also has an enormous gut that's hanging over his belly Big time so they have a son named Brandon and Mike owns his own HVAC company so So he's doing heating and air conditioning here. Now, this goes on for a while, and their marriage is OK for a few years.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And then by 1995, though, they start to have some problems. Dana, when the kids were very young, she stayed home with the kids, and Mike did his business. And Dana would work kind of part time here and there to supplement the income. But as the kids got school age, she decided she wanted to do something with herself. So she opened up her own beauty salon. Great. It's a beauty and tanning place that she owns. So she does that.
Starting point is 00:13:35 By 1995, though, Dana and Mike are separated here. They're talking about a divorce and they have moved out from each other. And it's not going well here for them But they're not it's not acrimonious really And I can I would assume not because on July 30th 1995. This is they're separated. They're living apart You know everything like that. They spend the night of July 30th together With the children eat dinner watch TV and spend the night together at on July 30th, so there's definitely like They're not you know in a heated divorce or anything like that. They're just not working out
Starting point is 00:14:13 So by the way a little about her salon. It's called Roebuck Beauty tan tanning salon Yeah, and that's where she has to go the next morning She's got clients and shit coming in and he has to go install fucking vents So he's got a crawling somebody's addict. Yeah, I don't think this guy's crawling in anybody's. No, I don't trust my trusses When they made a crawl space, they said nobody like three bills is gonna crawl in here, right? No, that's enough crawl space for everybody, right? And if they are they'll hire somebody right? Yeah, this dude is not fittin' through any of your fuckin' vent, I'll tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:14:47 He's gonna have feet kickin' out of it if you try. So they get up the next morning, scramble to get ready for work and all that kinda thing, and they make plans to again have dinner that evening. So for a divorcing couple, the things seem to be going pretty well. They're gettin' along pretty well, yeah. They're gettin' along.. They're getting along.
Starting point is 00:15:05 So this is July 31st, 1995, and it's down here. And she works a whole day. He goes to work, does his HVAC, and then he has the kids after work. And she has her salon, and she has appointments here. A woman named Patty Taylor arrives at the salon at 6.30 p.m. on July 31st for a hair appointment.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And after she arrives, another woman named Diane Harris shows up selling products, a cleaning product, I'm sure to get dye off of shit or something like that, and made a demonstration for her. Let me show you what I'm doing. So she said, sure, she's doing this lady's hair. They both watched Diane Harris do a demonstration and then Dana ends up purchasing a bottle of the cleaner from this woman Great, and this woman's like going door to door of all the businesses trying to sell them cleaner. I Don't know. So that sounds like a tough job
Starting point is 00:15:58 Yeah, so she Dana continues to work on this Patty Taylor's hair until, um, a little befushed. They kind of, she gets there about six 30, they're going in with the hair by seven. They're really doing it cause she's got to wash it and do all that kind of shit. And then by eight, they finish up with the hair. So during this time, um, you know, she's finishing it up and Dana is sweeping and cleaning up the shop, getting ready to close it up for the night. Taylor pays her and Dana walks this Patty Taylor
Starting point is 00:16:27 to the door and tells Patty Taylor that I have some clothes in the dryer and I'm gonna be right behind you, leaving here right now. And so this woman said, oh, you want me to stay until you lock your shop up? That way you don't have to sit here by yourself and it's dark out and that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:16:42 She said, no, no, that's okay. She said, I'll be right behind you. It's only, I have five minutes left on the dryer. So, you don't have to stand here waiting for me. It's five minutes, don't worry about it. So she said she left the shop at about 8, 10, 8, 15, this Patty Taylor takes off. Now, simultaneously to all this going on,
Starting point is 00:17:01 there is a couple of guys hanging out at a bowling alley nearby, just chilling here. David Michael Pace and Jonathan Christian Vick. And they're both 17 years old, went to high school together. I think David might be a year older than Jonathan, but Jonathan is 17, Jonathan Christian Vick. And they became friends in high school and have been friends since then. Michael Pace or David Michael Pace works at the bowling alley. And Vic would come by a couple of times a month on a Friday or Saturday night. You know, 17 crews in the bowling alley for all the chicks. So he this particular night, Jonathan Vic comes in to visit his friend at work
Starting point is 00:17:42 and he's hanging out at the bowling alley. He's wearing my Vic is where I want to call a Michael Vic, but he's Jonathan Vic comes in to visit his friend at work and he's hanging out at the bowling alley. He's wearing, Vic is wearing, I wanna call him Michael Vic, but he's Jonathan Vic. He's wearing blue jeans and light colored shirt. Vic is talking to his friend Pace about a lady named Dana, okay, who owns a hair salon. I know her.
Starting point is 00:18:02 And he said that, I'm gonna ask her out tonight. Oh, tonight? He's 17, she's a married 27 year old woman with two kids. Who owns her own business. 27 year old, two time. Attractive woman. Yeah, about to be two time divorcee though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:20 At 17, you're not scoring that broad. You are absolutely not scoring that broad. Absolutely have no chance at that shit whatsoever. You are absolutely not scoring that broad Absolutely have no chance at that shit whatsoever. You may think she you're I'm sure she's nice to you when she cuts your hair But that doesn't mean she wants to have sex with your teenage ass So Vic had Spoken about Dana to pace on a couple of occasions telling him like a chicken. She's hot You know that Dana that works as the yeah, chickens, she's hot. You know, Dana that works at the hair salon, man,
Starting point is 00:18:47 she's fine, isn't she? There's a lot of hot chicks, man. Hot chick over there. She might be the hottest chick in town, you know what I mean? Probably, yeah. So she said, you know, this slave, she cuts my hair, man. Ooh, she's real fine and all that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:19:01 So at the end, this particular night, Vic tells Pace that Dana was having problems with her husband. Heard she's having problems. That's how small of a town it is. That some fucking high school kid knows when you're having problems with your husband. That's...
Starting point is 00:19:15 Feel like I got an in. Yeah. He's having problems with her husband and he said, I'm gonna ask Dana out and I hope she'll go on a date with me. Where? To the bowling alley? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:19:27 What kind of date are you gonna take this woman on? This guy laughed in Vic's face. Yeah, that's a good answer, man. He said you're out of your fucking mind. Said she's older, you're way too young for her, you have nothing going on for you, you live with your parents, what are you gonna do? Dude, she's been fucked by a man. She's not gonna want you ever again. You live with your parents. What are you gonna do? She's she's been fucked by a man
Starting point is 00:19:45 She's not gonna want you know a fat man She likes men Boys so Vic got pissed off at the guy was like hey fuck you I got a shot with her They were arguing at the bowling. Oh, this guy is like laughing Catching his breath and Vicks like that's bullshit. You don't think I think she'll go out with me. I got a shot. I got a good shot as anybody. No, you don't. Vic, you're so delusional. You don't even see that you've got a really great friend in front of you.
Starting point is 00:20:15 That's laughing in your face. A good friend laughs in your face when you say dumb shit like that. So then you don't follow through with it because they laughed in your face. And you're like, oh. Trying to save you from embarrassment, man. So then you don't follow through with it because they laughed in your face. You're like Yes So that's how it goes Then he said he hoped that Dana we said I hope she'll say yes to my date And then he said he starts graphically describing of what he'd like to do to her Including that he would quote bend her over her barber chair and perform sexual acts on her.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And we can assume which ones he's talking about. He further then went on to state other sexual conduct he would like to have take place with Dana. I love how a court document puts that by the way. This is what I would like to have take place with Dana. I'd like to have my penis and put it here. Yeah. That is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I'm gonna go for a churn. Get whatever's closest. So this goes on. Perhaps I can go down on her. This goes on for an hour. Wow! Back and forth. And this guy's just never,
Starting point is 00:21:19 he never was like, maybe you do have a chance. He's like, you're out of your fucking mind. Yeah, she's hot. I'm sure we'd all like to do that. give me a break here so then Vic this guy's work shift ends and Vic agrees to give his friend a ride home during the drive he continues to say I'm serious by the way I'm going over there I'm asking her out and she's gonna go out with me kept defending himself, and he was mad at pace for laughing at him Wow
Starting point is 00:21:49 He could never be a comedian this guy no no self-awareness And then when someone laughs at you you don't laugh also you get mad hey how dare you to say I'm stupid He should go I had this dumb thought once and that would be a hole that would be like a three-minute bit where I thought I could fuck this hot lady who was 10 years older than me. So he, Vic dropped Pace off at about 6.45 or 7 p.m. As Pace exited the vehicle, Vic told him that he was gonna go get his haircut right now.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I'm gonna go get a haircut from Dane and see what happens. You're gonna walk in at that time of night and expect a haircut? Well, that's what this guy says, too. He says that what you're gonna, what the fuck? He said, it's kind of late. You're gonna, by the time you get there, you're still gonna get a haircut?
Starting point is 00:22:33 And he said, oh, Dana keeps her salon open late and she knows I'm coming, so she'll be there for me. So the vehicle that Pace was dropped off in by Vic was a blue and white Ford Bronco with distinctive saw blade wheels. We know exactly what those wheels are. You know those ones that look like louvers almost? So now a week earlier, okay, let's talk about that.
Starting point is 00:22:57 A week earlier there was someone sitting in the chair named Darlene Reeves while Dana was doing her hair at the salon, Jonathan Vick's mother called Dana and asked Dana to fix Vick's hair. Number one, this is how you know she's not going to fuck you. Your mom calls and makes your hair appointments. Your mom calls and asks for fixes of your hair appointments. Which is your mom's not setting up like dates for you here. This is not others were working so
Starting point is 00:23:27 Now this woman who was in the chair said that Dana was like Exasperated by the situation like Jesus Christ What the fuck and told this after she hung up told the customer that I'm not gonna accommodate that I'm not gonna fix his hair. Fuck this. Yeah, they're painting the ass Now the saleswoman, Diane Harris here, the one who sold the bottle of cleanser while this was going on, she, by the way, lived in Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:23:55 She was, basically she's part of a, they sell like door to door this cleaning supplies, so they just take people to a location and drop off a bunch of salesmen and let them walk around and then drive them an hour 45 back to Charlotte. Move this shit. Move the product. Fuck man, that's brutal like an old vacuum salesman or something. So she said she went to the salon 630 or 640 after giving the demonstration and made a
Starting point is 00:24:20 sale with her and she said she was scheduled to meet back at her designated spot to be picked up with the other salespeople at 8.30 p.m. So she was to be the last salesperson picked up before heading back to Charlotte. After leaving the shop, Diane Harris walked around the area making calls on different houses and businesses, just trying to figure it out. Drown up some shit.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Trying to sell some cleaner. So at about 8.10, she walked through the parking lot of the salon after she had already been there an hour earlier, at which time she saw Dana through the window of the salon and spoke to her. And she said she appeared to be cleaning and that Dana waved at her as she walked by. Like, oh, you're the cleaning supply lady, there you go.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I think she was using her thing. So this woman continued to try to sell things before heading back to the pickup spot at 8.30. As she reached the salon parking lot, she noticed that the lights were on, but the blinds were now down. So she had walked by before, blinds were up waving. Now she walks back, the blinds are down.
Starting point is 00:25:23 At the same time, she hears thumping sounds coming from inside the building. When she looked around, she observes a man falling out of the salon's window. Oh, a bluff. A man falling out of the window. No, no, no, open window. Falling out, the screen pops out,
Starting point is 00:25:42 the screen's already out, and you see a man climbing out of a window Harris She was like what the fuck and got scared and threw all of her shit down and ran. Oh She just took off through all of her fucking cleaning supplies Everything just threw it down and laugh and left as she ran around the building in one direction She said the man ran around the other direction and they came face to face on the other side of the building, like a bad cartoon.
Starting point is 00:26:09 So Harris then ran out into the middle of the street and started screaming because she was scared of this guy. She has a real, that's a wild reaction. Yeah, that's a, I mean, there was no words exchanged. Yeah. So she ran into a home. She just busted into somebody's house.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Ran in, slammed the door behind her, locks it and tells the residents to call 911 because, Damon, over here, this lady at the beauty shop needs help. That's what she says, okay? So she said that the man she saw coming out of the window and again at the back of the building was the same man and he was quote was white and looked crazy. Crazy white boy jumping out the window. That's all I got.
Starting point is 00:26:53 He was wearing a gray or white t-shirt, pair of blue jeans and a pair. It appeared to be between 20 and 30 years old. Now the there's a guy named Michael Crook, and he was driving towards Spartanburg at 8.30 when he observed Diane Harris. He said he saw a black woman walking and then saw a white male who was bent down and was looking back toward Dana's salon. And he was wearing grayish-colored blue jeans
Starting point is 00:27:21 and a grayish-colored T-shirt. So this is all the same guy. So the police arrive, based on this 911 call. They don't even know what the hell this is. You don't know if she's being paranoid or what's going on here, but they get there about 8.50. They arrive at the scene here or the call comes in then and then they get there about 10 minutes later, nine o'clock.
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Starting point is 00:29:59 Fucking shines the flashlight and he finds Dana in there Not okay. She is, has a strap around her neck. Oh boy. From a duffel bag and is, is hanging from the hot water heater. With her feet two inches off the ground. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah, not good. She's covered in cuts and bruises. Her face and hair are covered in blood. Yeah, this is not good She's dead She he said her clothes were pulled away from her body her head was quote dramatically cocked to one side based Oh, God, Jesus. Oh Man, it's it's fucking horrible hanging from a strap around her neck Which was connected to the hot water here heater it appeared to have been that she had been strangled with a duffel bag strap and was left hanging from that
Starting point is 00:30:50 Like we said bruises all over her an inch or two off the ground Blood in her hair on her face bruises and cuts on her face and her tongue appeared to protrude from her mouth A white t-shirt on the top of her body was covered in blood that she was wearing, and she was naked from the waist down with her pants on her left ankle. Oh, for Christ's sake. Yeah, it's fuckin' horrifying, man. The investigation of the scene reveals
Starting point is 00:31:17 all the blood was contained in the bathroom where she was found. So there's not like another hunk of blood out in the salon area or anything like that. The room showed evidence that a struggle had certainly taken place in there. There's blood on walls. There's, it looks like, yeah, this is, this wasn't easy.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Her pocketbook, wallet, and checkbook are all in the salon. Not robbery. As well as the business cash book and check box, or cash box and checkbook, and the wallet and cash box together Contained over two hundred dollars in cash So if you're looking to rob a place, that's not the shit you leave me I don't think they just stole some new cleaning product and took off here. So The wounds here the pathologist performs an autopsy on
Starting point is 00:32:01 Dana and noted that she had a deep abrasion on her forehead as well as other superficial abrasions and numerous contusions about her head, neck, upper chest, elbows, arm, wrist, knees and ankle. This like she fucking was pushed out of a car. Like that's those are a lot of wounds to fuck man. Her hyoid bone appeared fractured indicating that she'd probably been strangled or at least had significant pressure around her neck at some point here.
Starting point is 00:32:30 They said that it could have been caused by a ligature or manual strangulation. The pathologists believe that she was probably strangled manually as well as with the use of a ligature. Examination of her brain also revealed extensive hemorrhaging caused by blunt force trauma and she was sexually assaulted as well So the violence of the attack Made the cops think this and the fact that no nobody stole anything makes them really think this is personal as shit
Starting point is 00:33:00 Like this even if it's just somebody off the street That comes in to try to rape somebody they probably grab 200 bucks on the way out, too You know what I mean? I don't think it would be outside of their moral like spectrum to be able to steal money is after you've raped and killed so they Obviously they said this seems like it's got to be somebody that knows her that's very angry at her so a state state agent, the SLED agent here, what's the state investigative thing, an agent here, an expert in the area of DNA and serology said that she processed the crime scene for fluids, she examined the body and noticed that there was possible semen in the victim's
Starting point is 00:33:43 pubic region here. So remembering that she had seen this when she processed the scene, she later tested the evidence from a rape kit which contained pubic hair comings hoping to find semen. The sample tested positive for semen. And they were able to develop a DNA profile from this semen sample that they have. So they have a DNA profile. So now they can, or just now it's just matching whatever. So they're talking to witnesses here trying to figure something else out.
Starting point is 00:34:15 They have a guy named Jerry Mills who said he knew about the shop and, you know, knew where it was and it was in the same area of where he worked. He said he drove by the area around five or five thirty on that afternoon and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. However, just before dusk, he drove back through and observed a Ford Bronco parked in a place where his employer did not allow parking because it was by his job. And he said none of his co-workers drove a vehicle like that. So that was somebody else.
Starting point is 00:34:46 He pulled up closer to the car to check it out, but no one was around the vehicle. He was going to tell them, hey, you're not allowed to park here. He described the Bronco as a late 80s car, blue with white or light cream colored top, with, quote, nice rims on the tires that did not look like factory rims and may have been like a razor type of rim, he said.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Or saw blade blade you never know. Blade yeah. Blade so they interview Diane Harris the saleswoman here she nervously explained that she came face to face heard the thumping sound found the someone on the ground in front of an open window she said quote I seen a man come out of that window with his shirt pulled up like he had fell. She said she ran to the left he ran to right, and then she said they came face to
Starting point is 00:35:27 face. She said she saw him for a split second. She said quote, he looked crazy over and over again. He looked crazy, he looked crazy. That's all she would say. He was white with brown hair wearing a light colored t-shirt and jeans and that's when she ran to a nearby trailer to call 911. So she was all fucked up about it,
Starting point is 00:35:45 but she also gives a lot of details to create a composite sketch, and we'll get to that in a minute. First person they have to really talk to is Mike, is the husband. They're in the middle of a divorce. So dead lady, middle of a divorce, we're chit chatting with you.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Doesn't match this lady's description, but we're gonna talk about it. He said he first learned something was wrong about 9 p.m. when a fellow church member of his called to say that officers were all around his wife's beauty salon. What's going on? So he got in his car, went to the salon, and the deputies wouldn't let him inside,
Starting point is 00:36:19 wouldn't tell him anything that was going on. Then they talked to him, and he downplayed the stories that their marriage was in trouble. He said, we were just together last night, we're gonna have dinner tonight, this is crazy, I don't know what you're talking about. And so they were saying, they were thinking maybe he hired somebody to do this.
Starting point is 00:36:37 He obviously couldn't have done it himself just based on popping out of that window which would have been physically impossible for him. Literally, he couldn't fit through that window. It's a trailer window, you're not fitting through it. He would have been physically impossible for him. Literally, he couldn't fit through that window. It's a trailer window. You're not fitting through it. He would have probably taken the whole wall down with him if he tried to fucking climb out of that thing.
Starting point is 00:36:51 So that's what they're wondering. So they said, shit, there's a lot of questions here. He supplies a solid alibi for himself. He's home with the kids who are old enough to say, we didn't leave and dad was here all night because her daughter Ashley's eight at that point, so she's one there. And he passes a polygraph test as well. That's good.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Okay, so they clear him as a suspect. He's got an alibi, polygraph test. They haven't been fighting over the divorce or anything, so they don't know. Now let's go back to Jonathan Christian Vick here. Remember this guy. Well, Pace, his friend, he said the next time he saw him was a few days later in a pool hall, he ran into Vick,
Starting point is 00:37:32 and he stated that Vick walked up and bumped into him in a serious manner. Vick then told Pace, if I tell anybody, he would kill me. And he said, what the, about what? What are you talking about? And Vick said that Pace, he said, what the, about what? What are you talking about? And Vic said that Pace, he said, you know or you'll find out. Oh.
Starting point is 00:37:52 So a couple of days or to a few weeks after the incident, we don't know, a few days or a week or something after this pool hall deal, Pace realized what Vic did not want him to discuss was when he saw a report on the news that described a vehicle similar to Vic's and showed a sketch that resembles Vic as well. We'll show you in a second here.
Starting point is 00:38:14 So the detectives then turned their attention to the witness reports of seeing a white and blue vehicle in the area, which he drives. So they looked all around Roebuck for the vehicle and turned up a possible match, Mary Ann Vick, one of Dana's customers, and Jonathan's mother, as a similar car. So they said the Vick vehicle wasn't, the one witness said the Vick vehicle wasn't a perfect match
Starting point is 00:38:38 with the one he'd seen though, which people have terrible memories when it comes to cars, colors, especially at dusk, you have no idea what color a car is at dusk, no one does. Yeah, but that thing seems like it sticks out a bit. It sticks out a bit, but he said it's sort of like it, but it's a small town, there isn't another one that's kinda like it, but the rims are different,
Starting point is 00:38:57 it's not like that here, it's the only one. And a Bronco looks like a Blazer as much as it looks like a Dodge Ramcharger, they all make the same thing. And at dusk, you have no idea what color or what model it is, who the hell knows. So, you know, well, we all know a Bronco after the OJ shit. Anybody can-
Starting point is 00:39:13 But not the 80s ones. Not the 80s ones. Anyone can pick out Bronco had the tail lights after that, but besides that. A 92, or it was a 94, I don't know, it was a 92, it was a 92 Bronco? Or a 90 Bronco? I think he had a 93, the one that-
Starting point is 00:39:25 93? The one that OJ had was a 93, yeah. You can't find them now. No, no, they burned them all, exploded. No, I mean, people keep them. No, I know, I know, I'm kidding. It's crazy. So they ended up, they're awaiting the results
Starting point is 00:39:40 of the rape kit and all that kind of thing. They spend months interviewing all of Dana's customers. All of their, I mean, basically everybody in town is interviewed over this. There's nobody getting away from this. If you're not like an old lady who didn't go to her salon, you're getting questioned. So three months after the murder,
Starting point is 00:39:58 David Michael Pace anonymously calls the cops and says, Jonathan Vick, and hangs up, basically. Like, anonymous call, you're looking for this guy. So, that is wild. Then, it was on a TV show that he saw the murder, so he contacted law enforcement for a second time, again anonymously, giving this person's name, which doesn't help, it's hard to get, it's really hard to get any kind of warrant
Starting point is 00:40:28 based on an anonymous tip. That's the problem. There's nothing to attribute it to. It could be somebody's enemy going, it's them, and then you go arrest them, that's crazy. Or a girlfriend that hates her husband, or boyfriend. Who knows, anything. Yeah, how many people called and said,
Starting point is 00:40:43 I think my boyfriend's Ted Bundy so many fucking thousands literally thousands of people called So on a third occasion during an unrelated bowling alley Trip here he he ran into a cop and informed an officer Pace does that he might know who was responsible for Dana's murder and gave the officer a name But wouldn't give the officer his name. Again anonymous. He's like, listen, check this guy out.
Starting point is 00:41:10 That's all I'm going to say. So that doesn't really work. So the composite sketch here, she did a couple of different composite sketches on two different occasions a month after the murder. And then two years later, she was asked to identify the man from a six person photo lineup but pick different men in both of them. so she's not a big help here. Here is the sketch by the way It's not the husband we fucking know that no, that's His lip is very interesting, but that can be just trying to be artistic. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:41 Yeah, we don't know but it looks like a you know thirties man. Yeah, kind of hard squared. Yeah hardened square artistic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we don't know but it looks like a you know, thirties man Yeah, kind of hard squared. Yeah hardened square jaw. Yeah mean looking. Yeah stern I would say so the 1996 here Aaron Popkin purchases a 1998 blue and white Ford Bronco with sawblade wheels from the Vic family Yes, he said he met with Jonathan Vic at Jonathan's job after seeing an ad for the car and white Ford Bronco with saw blade wheels from the Vic family. Really? Yes. He said he met with Jonathan Vic at Jonathan's job after seeing an ad for the car. But when Popkin offered to loan Vic one of his cars while his mechanic kept the Bronco
Starting point is 00:42:15 for inspection, he said, I'm going to take it and have the guy look at it. You can use my car while we do that. Vic told Popkin that he was suspicious that Popkin might actually be a police officer, so no. This guy's like, what are you talking about? I'm just trying to buy your Bronco. Do you want to sell the car or not, man? And even if I was a cop, I want to buy a Bronco. Who cares? I'm just buying it. Vic is very suspicious, so they worked out an alternate arrangement for inspection of the car. Weird. 1997. This case is on unsolved mysteries now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:48 So it gets national attention here that brings in the FBI and John Douglas, actual mind hunter himself here, John Douglas. Um, he does a workup and does a profile on this and says that he thinks that the killer is probably an average guy. Nothing special about him. He said the person responsible is not a ghoulish individual that you would, you know, blood dripping off his teeth. Not that kind of guy. He's a guy you would see every day doing normal things. He spent more than 25 hours, John Douglas did reviewing the case and found the killer was probably waiting until darkness to enter the hair and tanning salon to do this
Starting point is 00:43:27 But it's not a guy that you would expect basically So a year goes by a couple years go by obviously then they get a potential tip a Tip from an inmate who said his cellmate Russell Quinn Carries a picture of Dana Satterfield around with him in jail and said he was involved in the crime. What? That's not normal at all. Now police know that cellmate shit can be bad but when Harris, then Harris, the saleswoman,
Starting point is 00:43:57 identified a mugshot of Quinn from a photo array as the man she saw jump from the shop window. Okay. So now they're like okay but this is also like the third person she's picked out of photo array as the man she saw jump from the shop window. Okay. So now they're like, okay, but this is also like the third person she's picked out of a lineup that's a different person. So that's not helpful. But he's got a picture of her for real?
Starting point is 00:44:13 Got a picture of her. They go, there's a real easy way to find out. Yeah. Open that mouth, Chief. I don't know if they did blood back then or what, but- Swipe it up. They did the DNA, not a match. What the f- why would he do that? That's not a match
Starting point is 00:44:25 They said that the prosecutor said science doesn't lie back to square one like nothing we could do with that He's he's just a lunatic. He can admit to it all day and night doesn't matter. He didn't do it So too lucky they have DNA 20 years earlier. They just convicted him of murder. Yeah, it would have been done. That's it There's no anything so 2005 comes around yes, I said that right 2005 10 years later Now Dana's daughter is now 18 years old Ashley is her name She's now 18 years old looks a lot like her mom to a blonde and all that kind of thing Yeah, she goes to get an oil change for her car
Starting point is 00:45:03 Simple, you know normal thing just live in her life, you know, not looking for her car. Simple, normal thing, just living her life. Not looking for her mother's murderer at this point in time. She's just living her life. It's 10 years ago. We're just making a ton of vehicle. Well guess who works at the gas station or at the service station where she does this? Is it Vic?
Starting point is 00:45:16 It is, Michael Pace. Remember him, our buddy there? He works and Ashley comes in. He sees Ashley and learned that she was Dana's daughter and felt horrible. He saw her and was like, oh, this poor girl's never, she lost her mom when she was a kid and like she, he feels terrible. So he contacts the cops again, this time actually giving him the, his identity and the reasons why he thinks they should look into Jonathan Vic
Starting point is 00:45:46 So now the cops are like, okay now we have a real person with corroboration of something now we can get a warrant here and Enough information to force Vic to submit a DNA sample because you have to get a warrant if someone doesn't want to do that So he does this They interview first of all, while they're waiting for the DNA, they interview Vic's former girlfriend who spoke of his violence.
Starting point is 00:46:10 That's not good. She also said that he'd threatened her as they drove past Dana's shop one time. What? I don't know what that means. I will fucking hang you from a hot water heater like that hairstylist. That is crazy that that's what happened to her
Starting point is 00:46:24 and then they didn't get somebody right now. No. That would fuck me up every day until they caught him. Yeah. So at the same time, in the last 10 years, he had joined the Marines, he's had several jobs, he assaulted both male and female fellow Marines while he was in the Corps and was punished on two separate occasions for convictions on articles of assault and eventually received a general
Starting point is 00:46:49 discharge. It couldn't even take four years of this place. Let's part ways type of deal. Yeah. My God. His former supervisor called him a pathological liar with a violent temper saying he would bait female marines and bait is in quotes that's what he that's his words he would bait female Marines and bait is in quotes that's what he that's his words he would bait female Marines through flattery for dates and then change his behavior once they got out he would be mean to them and hit them and shit one said quote I had one that came this is the sergeant major here I had one that came to me and she said sergeant major Smith there's something wrong with him we went out and he's a whole different person. He's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
Starting point is 00:47:29 So they were like, interesting. So they get a written statement from Pace. So they have everything. Now they're just waiting on the DNA sample here. And they get that in and the DNA sample matches his profile from the semen sample found at the scene. They said it's the probability of randomly selecting an unrelated individual having the DNA profile matching the semen was about 1 in 900 million. So it's either him or some guy in Sri Lanka. We don't know. One of the two we could pick which one but that means there's only seven other people on the planet that could have done that could have done it
Starting point is 00:48:09 Yeah, and they probably don't aren't anywhere near Roebuck, South Carolina on the plan on the planet Probably not in Roebuck, South Carolina driving a fucking bronco that fits everybody's shit And also who talked about how bad he wanted to fuck the victim either. Yeah. And if it was somebody else, the odds of those two people being in the same town of Robux South Carolina. Unbelievable. Way higher.
Starting point is 00:48:34 What are those odds? Is anybody out there good at math? Let's figure that shit out. So October 24th, 2005, he is arrested. Hauled him in here. By then he's a married man with a baby. Oh no. Has a history of arrests for both domestic violence
Starting point is 00:48:53 and vandalism outside of the military as well as in the military. History of antagonizing coworkers and being fired from jobs. Oh and then there's one other thing. In 2002 his girlfriend disappeared and it was never solved and she was never found. He has a woman in his life that disappeared and we don't know where she is.
Starting point is 00:49:12 His fiance disappeared. What? Yes, okay. Since then, he's lived, I'm gonna give you this, I'm gonna give you a guess of two states he lived in in the last 10 years. Could that be Florida and Ohio? Nope, nope, you're close.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Yeah, Louisiana. It's obvious, you're sitting in it. We're sitting in it. He lived in New York? Arizona. Oh, oh. I'm at your house, what are you talking about? Do you know whose house we're at right now?
Starting point is 00:49:41 Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Where did he live here? I don't know, he was in the military, so wherever they moved him there. Oh my God, James, you could be right on the funny question. So I mean, he was right here. So yeah, he ended up in Florida and Arizona
Starting point is 00:49:58 were the two places he lived, which seemed to fit him perfectly. Florida too, huh? Yeah, Florida and Arizona. One of Vic's cellmates at a local detention center, Steve Vaughn, was housed in a cell with Vic for approximately eight or nine weeks starting in February 2006.
Starting point is 00:50:12 They discussed their pending charges. One night, this Vaughn guy got what he called a bad phone call from his wife and was upset. I assume when you're in prison, it's probably a few of those going on. I bet you get a lot of bad phone calls. Oh man, I would, you don't even wanna be married if you're in prison, it's probably a few of those going on. I bet you get a lot of that phone call. Oh man, I would, you don't even want to be married if you're in prison, because that's just gonna be,
Starting point is 00:50:28 those are horrible phone calls. You feel awful, I'm sure. She's yelling at you, nothing's good. That's gotta be a mind fuck every day if you're a, Brutal. You're married? Brutal. Are you kidding?
Starting point is 00:50:41 So in discussing the call with Vic, Vaughn asked him whether there was anything in his life or Or a day in his life that he would take back if he could he's like anything He would ever take back in your life and Vic said it would be the day he went over to Dana's Beauty Shop Vic told this guy that he drove his vehicle over there But parked across the road because Dana was married and he didn't want her husband to see him or his vehicle Even though he gets his hair cut there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:07 He further indicated he exited the building through a window because he was scared. He said that he recalled having a conversation with Dana, but he blacked out and doesn't recall anything else that happened while in the shop. That's what he said. Now there's a lot of details in there that only
Starting point is 00:51:32 This person like where he parked and all that kind of shit so by the way he wants bond he wants to get out What yeah, he says that he did his whole family. They're all you know trying to get him out They say he needs to be free and at home with his six month old daughter Let's keep him away from her probably forever, okay? And the mother of her. They said, well, he can't, if you don't let him out, then he can't fulfill his dream and become a minister. Okay. All righty. One relative said she just wanted to cook him his favorite meals again. Good grief.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Isn't that nice? Oh my God, that is fucking unbelievable. About 30 members of Satterfield's family presented letters to the judge protesting his release and the judge went, we're gonna go with that. We're gonna go with you suspected rapist murderer. So April 30th, 2006, waiting on his trial, he's incarcerated and waiting on trial and apparently Vic draped his feet out of a food hatch
Starting point is 00:52:25 of the cell door, you know, a little door that they put the food through, and then became belligerent when the jailer asked him to please remove his feet so they could put the food through. So he blocks this when Officer Derek Jefferson Green opened the hatch to give him his food at the Spartanburg County Detention Center. Then Corporal Alvin Jennings Jr. opened the cell door
Starting point is 00:52:46 in order to stop Vic from blocking the hatch. They said Jennings and Vic then became involved in an altercation in which Vic yelled, quote, I'm going to kill you and your fucking family. Which, obviously, I don't know how he's gonna get to the family from prison. Probably not. So when the officers opened the door, he continued his aggressive behavior, made the verbal threats, they sprayed him with a quick burst of pepper spray, and he continued fighting and fighting
Starting point is 00:53:15 until they contained him, and he was charged with assaulting local correctional employees and threatening the life of a public official. It's big. So the other young lady who's missing, Heather Rena Sellers, S.E.L.L.A.R.S. Vic is a suspect in the 2002 disappearance of then 20 year old Heather Sellers, who was his former fiance and the last person to have seen her anywhere. Sellers grandmother, Norma Jean Swan, told deputies she dropped Sellers off at work at the Waffle House at Highway 9 and the I-85. Jesus that's depressing man. Can you imagine? No. Fuck. At about 2 p.m. to work second shift at the Waffle House
Starting point is 00:53:58 that sits on two fucking interstates. Oh god Oh, thanks. Oh, God. September 24th, 2002, and the family never heard from her again. So the mother told investigators, or the grandmother told investigators, that Sellers had a small bag of clothes and intended to spend the night with an aunt. A report said that she left her aunt's house with Vic. Oh?
Starting point is 00:54:22 She had gone to her aunt's house. Mom dropped her off, she did her shift, then she went to her aunt's house and left with Vic. Oh? She had gone to her aunt's house, mom dropped her off, she did her shift, then she went to her aunt's house and left with Vic. Witnesses said they went to the Rainbow Lounge and then to Cocktails and Dreams, which is the fucking name of the movie in the terrible Tom Cruise movie, Cocktail. That's the bar that they were opening. Cocktails and Dreams. Yeah, they had like a pink logo. yeah, it's the shittiest movie and the dumbest idea for anything. And that's what they did. So and dreams and dreams because it was his dream to have his own place of cocktails and dreams.
Starting point is 00:54:54 And he wrote it on a cocktail napkin, fucking awful movie, but Elizabeth shoe was in it and she was cute at the time. So why not? Anyway, they said that, uh, uh, um that witnesses said shortly after she disappeared, when they talked and were kind of canvassing the area, they said that Heather was on drugs at the time and had also not picked up her paycheck at the Waffle House. Yeah, I guess that's what they said. They said that they went to two local bars, a photograph of Thicke is posted with the case summary as well. In the thing, like here's our only suspect basically.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Her last paycheck was for $81 by the way. Oh man. So they had broken off their engagement two weeks earlier but were still seeing each other. They did find Heather Sellers car at the bottom of a river but her body was never found. At the bottom of a river. Yeah, she's not alive let's say. No.
Starting point is 00:55:52 No. So she's, that's just a mystery. So trial for Dana's murder November 2006. Now because he committed the crime when he was 17 he's not eligible for the death penalty. Okay, we can try him as an adult still, right? Oh yeah, absolutely, but he can't get the death penalty. That's not one thing. So it's a four-day trial. Not very long. Defense opening here a little bit. The lead defense attorney said that yes, Dana Satterfield was brutally murdered
Starting point is 00:56:23 and that a pubic hair was found on her body though and that pubic hair does not match Vic. The problem is also there was a struggle in the bathroom this all happened in the bathroom. Oh forget it. So how many pubes are in there? Yeah it's a bathroom. She may have been murdered in a barber shop's floor. What she was?
Starting point is 00:56:44 She was she was that She was, she was. That's the other thing. The amount of hairs, it may not have been a pub. You don't know. She was dragged across the floor too. So they said there's tons of different hair all over. She had like 15 people's hair on her. I'm sure she did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:56 So they said that didn't belong to Vic. And they said that that's crazy. And they said no one can, no test can show when the semen made contact with her body as well. So telling the jury, you keep an open mind. So their theory is, he came in, said, yo, what's up? You want to fix my hair?
Starting point is 00:57:15 And she was like, not to lie, fuck you. And then they went in the back, and he gave her the fucking business. And then he was like, peace out, lady. And then while she was sitting there in the afterglow some other guy came in and strangled her somebody that just just poppin' pubes while she still had a fucking yeah well she still had her pants around her ankle he came in and then and then raped her and dropped pubes everywhere but didn't come only that guy came okay yeah they
Starting point is 00:57:43 said DNA analysis cannot put a time frame on when it got there. Like she was cutting hair all night with sperm in her pubes. We got no evidence that she's ever had sex with him willingly. None. His friend laughed at him when he even suggested it was a possibility. And now I want to know. So a customer said that she was a customer, Reeves here, she was a customer and a friend of Dana, and that she was in the salon to have her haircut
Starting point is 00:58:10 on July 25th, the week before, on Tuesday. When Reeves was in the chair, that's when she also got another call from Vic's mother, Dana gets a call from Vic's mother, Mary Ann. Now Reeves, who also knows Mary Ann Vick and had talked to her on the phone before, knew it was Mary Ann on the phone because Dana was behind Reeves, who also knows Maryann Vick and had talked to her on the phone before, knew it was Maryann on the phone because Dana was behind Reeves when the phone call came and she recognized Maryann's voice. That's how small of a town this is.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I know her voice. That's Maryann. There's nobody impersonating Maryann around here. No. Jaylor doesn't know her. No. Fucking no shit. Where's Rich Little when this is going on? So Reeves was asked why Marianne was calling and then there was an objection in the middle of all that.
Starting point is 00:58:51 The trial court overruled the objection and she testified this, quote, she wanted Dana to look at Vic's hair that you know, I don't know if he put something in it or had someone something, but she told her that it wouldn't take but about 10 minutes of her time and Mary Ann could not, excuse me, Dana could not do it that day and it stated to Mary Ann that she was not able to do it, but if she would call her back, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:16 it's been a time frame so I don't know if she said come there the next day or to call her back or what. So when asked about what she remembered about the conversation she stated the conversation was to call back and she would take a look at it but she could not do it that day. She said I just heard a voice and when Dana hung up she obviously um Maryann hung up on her because there was no goodbye and the victim uh Dana turned around to me and she just took a breath and said Maryann Vic like you all know she's a pain in the ass, yep. So they objected again and all this type of thing
Starting point is 00:59:49 and Reeves stated that Dana told her that it was Mary Ann Vick, at which point Reeves told Dana that she knew because she recognized the voice. When Dana asked Reeves if Reeves knew them, Reeves told her she did and then she said, Dana said to me, she said, well, I won't do that anymore. She said, that's the last time,
Starting point is 01:00:09 that the last time he was here, that was the case, that 10 minutes of your time, and it took her an hour and a half, and she doesn't have time to do this. Yeah. Now, they also deny a state motion to preclude defense attorneys from introducing evidence that Mike Satterfield's fingerprints were found on the water heater
Starting point is 01:00:29 where the body was found. It's her business, right? It's her, well, Mike Satterfield testified in court that he installed the water heater two months before his wife's death. So my fingerprints are gonna be on it. I installed the water heater in my wife's business. I'm an HVAC guy.
Starting point is 01:00:45 It's probably on the heater and the air conditioner also, I would bet. It's things I do. Yeah, and also another witness had told jurors that the man he saw crouch down near the crime scene was way too small to have been Mike Satterfield because, Mike, you'd see from space. He's a giant fucking fat guy.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I'm not trying to be a dick. This saves him in this. He's not. If you say, oh, you know, six foot average build, whatever, could be anybody. It's not Mike. That's one person it's not. If you saw Mike first thing out of your mouth
Starting point is 01:01:14 it'd be big guy, big belly. Enormous man. Big fat guy. So, I mean, he was home with his children as well. And they don't think that he hired a teenager to go rape and kill his wife when he was trying to get with her. So the testimony and evidence altogether shows that Vic had a sexual desire to be with Dana
Starting point is 01:01:31 and intended to visit her on the night of the murder. Vic threatened to kill the witness who could provide this information. He said, I'll kill you. A person matching the description of Vic was seen exiting the salon before she was beaten, before her body was found. A car similar to him in make model color with distinctive rims was found around there.
Starting point is 01:01:49 He confided to a cellmate. All of the details, everything and his DNA matched the semen found on her to the tune of one in 900 million. A lot of evidence here. The closings, prosecutors said this, I want you to speak the truth in a voice so loud that it will be heard in years to come. It's eight female jurors and four male jurors, by the way. And I want you to speak the truth
Starting point is 01:02:15 so it bounds back through the halls of history to a beauty shop in Roebuck and a young mother hanging by a strap. I want this courtroom to be full of justice when you come back. Okay, that's the silliest thing I've ever heard a person say. I want this courtroom to be full of a feeling or of justice. You don't get a more nebulous term than justice to say I'd like it to be full of it. It's just a weird thing to say. Then he said, Jonathan Vick is a danger to our community and he doesn't ever deserve to see the light of day.
Starting point is 01:02:46 So the defense said, come on, you know, the defense said, please look past the emotion and look at the evidence. And then forget that also, you'd have to say. And then also forget all of that. And then just said that Vick's fingerprints were not found at the crime scene and that DNA tests showed a pubic hair found on Dana's lower body did not belong to Vic. They said clearly what happened to her was tragic, but convicting the wrong person doesn't serve any purpose.
Starting point is 01:03:15 You just got a point. You don't want to convict the wrong person? Oh, you never want to convict the wrong person. But I think we're okay. I think we got this one, and the jury really thinks so because it took them less than 20 minutes of Deliberation to come out with a verdict. I mean that's not they didn't even get a drink of water. No, they sat down Nobody has to pee. They sat down. They always do a straw poll at first just to see where we stand They sat down straw poll. All right, then we're done. Let's go home. Peace out
Starting point is 01:03:43 That's it she he is found guilty on all counts murder criminal sexual conduct and kidnapping as well. Oh so the prosecutor said later on that's the jury's way of sending a message. It's less than the time it's less than the time it takes to watch a sitcom. That's how reprehensible we think you are I could have fucked up an episode of friends last longer than this fuck you Didn't even get there so sentencing here the prosecutor said only by his good fortune Only by his good fortune was he 17 at the time he committed it or else we would be at the start of the death penalty seeking phase Vic's wife Caroline pleads with the judge prior to sentencing for the minimum sentence
Starting point is 01:04:30 noting that she and her husband have a young daughter at home. She said I know he didn't do this I know he didn't sobbing and crying. You're a single mom lady. Wow you are fucked. Vic says this He steps up and says I got something to to say. Quote, she did not get justice today. She will not as long as I sit behind bars. Is that right? Wow. So the judge says, let's make that a good long time. You sir may fuck off life with parole.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Okay. Okay. So his parole eligibility date starts October 24th 2035 Is that right that is when he's eligible for 20 years, I guess huh? Yeah now Okay, he is sentenced there now Heather Sellers family is there as well Okay, cuz they believe they just have their laser I'm surprised if one of her brothers didn't murder this guy already or something like how the fuck do you let this guy walk around? I don't know. I left a woman hanging from a hot water heater just a few years before. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:05:31 This is his jam here. So Sellers grandmother attended the court She's the one who dropped her off at the Waffle House Norma Jean Throughout the week and smiled as the verdict was announced. She later stood outside the courtrooms alongside Cora Kent, her granddaughter's friend, the murdered woman's friend or missing woman's friend, who was also Vic's ex-girlfriend as well. Kent said that justice was served. She said they should have given him the chair though. I'm in for an eye for an eye.
Starting point is 01:06:03 As the Vic family left, Vic's younger brother then threatened her, this lady, and said quote You'll get yours and Vick's mother began to proclaim her son's innocence and officers hurried the Vick family away from the property. You know, before they got attacked by the entire town and murdered in the street. For they all got strung up. Fuck. So Mike, he's out there, his reaction here, he's outside hugging his kids and he said he took the denial of the crime in stride saying it doesn't matter what he says, the
Starting point is 01:06:34 evidence points to him. He said though that he thought, he said, I don't know, maybe in his own mind he thinks he's innocent. He said, I don't know what people's heads do. Either way he did it. So I don't care basically. He he said maybe it'll be a better he said now it'll he thinks maybe hopefully the future will be better he said maybe it'll be a better holiday as this is coming up on the holiday season he said the
Starting point is 01:06:55 holidays will never be the same but at least we got some closure Ashley's 20 at this point the daughter and she said that she was glad Vic wouldn't be able to hurt anybody else while in jail, and said that quote, he can lie to himself all he wants. Her brother Brandon, who was 17 at this point, he said he got what he deserved. Dana's mother said that it was a smack in the face to hear Vic deny his guilt,
Starting point is 01:07:22 but added that she was surprised he said anything. She said, at least we've put this person away for life where he can't hurt anyone else. We wanted him where he could not hurt anybody or control anybody else. Now he goes to court for his fucking problems with the prison guards there. You can't threaten to kill people in jail.
Starting point is 01:07:39 So when he goes to court for that, he is found guilty of threatening the life of a public official and assault on a correctional officer in a two day jury trial. They sentence him to use, sir, may fuck off three more years in prison because of that. So yeah, even if he gets parole in 2035, he then has to go serve that. So that's going to be on top of it. Also he has, he's a fuck up though, he's not gonna get paroled. If he does, it's not gonna be for a long time
Starting point is 01:08:08 because he has been in the special management unit, which is 23 hour a day lockdown for, at that, for 1.6 months after a punishment for attacking a fellow inmate, then he's transferred, he has all sorts of infractions. Oh, he's a pain in the ass in the ass, crazy. He appeals the case very quickly here. He maintains that testimony related in detail
Starting point is 01:08:31 the substance of what that, the phone call, he's saying that phone call, the substance of that phone call that that woman overheard the mother wanting Dana to fix Michael's hair. Or not Michael, Jonathan's hair. Keep doing it. Recognizing her voice. Recognizing her voice and saying that,
Starting point is 01:08:51 because they're saying it was hearsay that she said that this person told her it was Marianne. They said, that doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter. Explain your jizz, sir. That's the point. Your jizz is not where it shouldn't be. I know where all my jizz is, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:09:07 I know where all of it, I can catalog. On dead women. Nope. It doesn't happen. I can tell you where it is and it's nowhere out there. There's not a hair salon on earth where my jizz can be found and that's important here. So they ended up taking a couple of his points
Starting point is 01:09:22 on the appeal but it doesn't matter because his sentence stands and everything stands. So he's kind of shit out of luck there. They said his guilt was conclusively proven such that any error in admission of evidence would be harmless, D and fucking A. He still denies it. He still continues to maintain an unknown assailant,
Starting point is 01:09:43 did the whole thing and fucking everything. So then he wants a new trial as well. Oh, he's got to have a new trial. He said his personal research on the topic led him to believe the sample could have been contaminated. Oh, the DNA sample. Yeah, he did his own research from jail where you have the best internet access and access to top experts.
Starting point is 01:10:04 He said that led him to on a topic to believe that the DNA sample could have been contaminated and said he was under the impression that another DNA expert was going to testify for the defense. And so, you know, he said, but I didn't ever get that. He said, I felt there was no way to get a fair trial in this town with all the media exposure.
Starting point is 01:10:21 I was looking forward to a day in court. I was looking forward to my day of standing up here and telling the world, hey, I didn't do this. He never testified, by the way. He could have was more than welcome to do that. I'm not this monster these people think are trying to make me out to be in the media. I was looking forward to that. I felt that was important for people to hear my own from my own mouth. No one was defending me at the time. I was the only person to defend myself in the media and in court Wow your jizz now Ashley she went on to have two children of her own and she became a victim advocate for the Spartanburg County Sheriff's Office and
Starting point is 01:10:58 She said that she makes herself available at all hours for victims in case someone needs to talk She makes herself available at all hours for victims in case someone needs to talk. She attends bond hearings with them also for against the people, and encourages them to draft impact statements and read them at sentencing hearings. She also started a jailhouse program to make inmates aware of the effects
Starting point is 01:11:16 that their crimes have on victims' families. She said, quote, you just don't get over it. You learn how to live with it. So this is kind of my way of living with it. And she also operates her own photography business as well. Now the Heather Sellers case, OK, they said that any other crimes that might involve Vic, they're investigating him for all sorts of shit.
Starting point is 01:11:37 He's considered a person of interest in her disappearance. I would say more than that. In 2006, authorities found blood stains and blonde hair I would say more than that in 2006 Authorities found blood stains and blonde hair in an abandoned vehicle registered to Vic they believed the blood and hair may be from sellers, but they couldn't the Samples were broken down and couldn't get good DNA on it. Yeah, they said if he's involved in anything else We're never going to quit looking. We do not believe he is squeaky clean as his lawyers and his mama believe. He's an evil, evil person. Now he was considered a possible suspect in the disappearance of another person, one of Sellers fellow Waffle House employees, Michelle Whitaker who disappeared in August 2002 around the same time Sellers did but turns out in 2008 when the cops were investigating
Starting point is 01:12:30 it they found her alive she was alive she had left on her own and just wasn't aware anyone was looking for she's so inconsequential that it didn't even, she like, it never came up. This town sucks so bad people leave. They leave. Nobody knows. So he's at the Ridgeland, um, whatever, correctional facility or whatever right now. Just says Ridgeland. Um, and, uh, yeah, parole at 1024, 2035.
Starting point is 01:13:00 He's eligible for parole. He's had loss of privileges a bunch of times, you know, cell phones and fighting and all this type of shit. Dana is buried at the Heritage Memorial Gardens in Roebuck there, and this has been on a bunch of different TV shows, everything from forensic files to Unsolved Mysteries to Paul Azzon to all this shit. He really thinks that he's just gonna do his time
Starting point is 01:13:23 and get out. He's never getting out, right? I fucking hope not. As a murderer, you can't get out. I really, really hope not, because he's dangerous, that's a dangerous fuckin' man. So there you go, there is Roebuck South Carolina, gotta go through the end quick here.
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