Small Town Murder - #584 - Killer Homecoming King - Powell, Wyoming

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

This week, in Powell, Wyoming, a college girl's disappearance from a dorm party sends the whole town on a massive search. It's a mystery, until one particular student arrives at his dorm, cov...ered in blood. His roommates decide to turn him in, but that's just the start. He lies about what happened, until confronted with the evidence. When a truly dark tale emerges, we find out about a very creepy past, making it obvious, he was stopped before he could become a serial killer!!Along the way, we find out that it's hard to ride a bicycle during a Wyoming winter, that nobody can predict what will happen to the homecoming king, in the future, and that no matter what your story is, evidence always tells the real story!!New episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: crimeinsports@gmail.comGo to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:00 let's all clear the lungs, and let's all shout. Shut up and give me murder let's do this everybody hey let's go on a trip shall we we are going somewhere we do not go very often we are going to Wyoming oh yeah and we don't go there very often because there's like a half a million people in the state so There's way less murders just in volume and it's just hard So the people are pretty spread out too, so the murder rates pretty low there It's just one of those places you got to find someone to kill them. They're miles away. It's really difficult We are going to Powell Wyoming, which is in northwestern
Starting point is 00:04:42 Wyoming up there in the corner by Montana and all that. It's about an hour 35 to Billings, Montana. That's the closest city, I suppose. It's about five hours to Green River, Wyoming, which was our last Wyoming episode. This is episode 584 right now. That was episode 410. So that's the last time we've gone to Wyoming. It's been a while. That was the longest night, which was a crazy love triangle story that was insane. Population in this town, 6,385, and it's a college town.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Oh, so they leave a lot. That's including the students, so there's really not a lot of people there. A lot of people leave around springtime, around summer. Oh, man. And it's a bit cold in the winter here, as you can imagine, in Northwestern Wyoming. This is in Park County, area code 307. Median household income here, a little lower than the national average.
Starting point is 00:05:37 It's $60,210. Median home price, though, is a little bit high, $356,800. So yeah, it's a little pricey here, as a lot of Wyoming seems to be very pricey. Which, there's so much land and so few people, yet it's expensive. It's the strangest supply and demand. It completely flouts the rules of supply and demand economics.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And there's nothing there. There's nothing there, That's the other thing. Unless you're wealthy and a skier, there's nothing there. I want to stare at mountains. Yeah. Unless you're wealthy enough, we're staring at mountains for months at a time as a, yeah, like a activity for you. A little bit of history here. Large fires took over the community. Obviously that right. Like every other town, uh 12th 1915 a fire
Starting point is 00:06:28 burned down at least nine businesses before finally the people extinguished it. This is how they extinguished the fire by setting off dynamite. They blew the fire up. They blew the fire up. That's the craziest, that's how crazy the West was. They're like, there's a fire. We'll blow it up. We got bombs? We tried shooting at it. That didn't work. Just try dynamite next. I don't know, shit.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Just throw dynamite into the fire. You ain't even gotta light it. We threatened to hang it first. That did nothing. We shot at it. Still blazing. I think blowing it up will work. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:02 So the resulting explosion broke all the windows of all the businesses that didn't burn down. So either way So then they formed a fire department and purchased a new alarm bell and all that kind of thing Then they had some they replaced it with brick buildings, which that happened. Finally that'll that'll do it Get rid of the fire a couple reviews of this town, just a few here. Here's a five star, I love living in Powell. It's a quiet town which is exactly what I need in my life. What have you been through?
Starting point is 00:07:34 I need a quiet town in my life. Jesus, this person, I'm just shaking with nerves all the time. The people are kind and living here is extremely beneficial for my social anxiety. There you go. I have extreme sensory overload issues. Wyoming's the place for you if these, if this, if you're a human Chihuahua. Yeah this is, need to be there.
Starting point is 00:07:54 This is, Jesus I've never seen so much controversy over the Chihuahua comment. There's so many people from the Northeast going, I don't understand. That's just how it's said. What are you talking about? If you'd like Southern people, I can pick out a couple of words you say completely incorrectly, and we'll talk about them repeatedly
Starting point is 00:08:13 for a fucking week and a half. Okay. Because there's a couple. We pronounce things terribly, but come on now. I mean, there's a slur that they created just by mispronouncing. So yeah. So here's a three star. Powell is a wonderful place to live. The town has a very small town feel. The people here are nice and there is beauty surrounding us. Summers or winter are beautiful but winters can be brutal.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Summers or winter I just said. Summers are winter but they can be brutal. And finally, two stars, small town, only few stores, it is great if you prefer close community, nothing open past 11pm, not much to do for college students either, no Walmart or shopping. Not even a Walmart. That's where college kids like to go. Nothing is open past 11. Nope, it's only 30 minutes from Cody, however. Okay, things to do here, the JWP days.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Right, John Powell. That's it right there, John Wesley Powell, whatever the hell. There's activities for both children and adults. This fun-filled afternoon is packed with all sorts of activities. For example, activities include a bike obstacle course and an adult and adults 21 plus can make their way to the beer garden for refreshments. Okay so to
Starting point is 00:09:36 clarify this is still a day for family friendly. That's what's fun here and they do they have a bike parade that night. Yeah Then they have first they have an award ceremony Okay, the award ceremony is for those who participated in the bike to school and bike to work events So here are the prizes Those who bike the most to school that's you get a prize for that you you bike the most There's only so many days you can do it But yes, it's fucking Wyoming and three feet of snow It's hard to take your hard to take your huffy over to the school at that point
Starting point is 00:10:15 Yeah, so but if that's not for you, you know You can do just just wait until 9 p.m. Because they're gonna be showing rad the movie all the the 80s bicycle movie I Think well it says it's an end your evening with the nostalgia of a drive in the movie or of a drive-in movie Experience with the favorite 80s cult classic coming-of-age BMX movie rad The story of a young man crew Jones who has the intensity and desire to win a BMX movie, Rad. The story of a young man, Crew Jones, who has the intensity and desire to win a BMX race called Hell Track. Bring the kids, they'll laugh at it. It'll be hilarious. His name's Crew? Crew, C-R-U, Crew Jones. Yeah. Let's talk about a murder everybody, what do you say?
Starting point is 00:11:05 Okay, here we go. Let's talk about a young lady first here with a cool name. Her name is Berry, B-E-R-R-Y, Berry. It's her full real name. Wow. Berry Alexis Bryant. So Berry Bryant here. She's born March 21st, 1978.
Starting point is 00:11:23 So it's like first day of spring look at that coming so is Bear Bryant at Alabama at that time? 78 I don't know if he was still that's the kind of the edge of that I think he was probably gone by then. I wonder if there's something with that. Bryant's a pretty common last name. Yeah but Bear. Oh Berry? Bear Bryant. Oh Berry, oh, Berry Bryant, yeah. Her mom calls her Strawberry. I really don't think they named their daughter after Bear Bryant.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I want it to be Bear Bryant. Really, that's as big a stretch as you could really do. Berry is such a feminine name, too, and you're like, I think it's Bear, is what they're going for. They want to pay homage to bear? That's the strangest fucking So she's born in Lewiston, Montana
Starting point is 00:12:20 They stayed in Roy, Montana. They lived in Plummer, Idaho and then finally to Riverton That's where they moved in 1980. So in her first two years of her life she lived in like six different places Yeah all that that northwest area there She has a brother Ryan that's about two years younger and her moving around is explained by her mom Sharon here Sharon said I married a man who groomed me for marriage and took advantage of me It took me. I don't know when they got together, she doesn't say that, but it took me seven years to leave him and I barely got out with my life.
Starting point is 00:12:54 It had gotten to the point of kill or be killed. So whatever was. That's all negative. Yeah, it seems like they were running from this guy or something, trying to get away from him. She said that her husband, I think it's Barry's father, I'm not sure, had worked hard to isolate her and make sure she didn't have any resources at her disposal, making it hard for her to
Starting point is 00:13:17 leave, you know, abuser shit, you know. So after she got away from her husband, she returned to her hometown of Riverton where she said I guess I relaxed I felt I was safe in my community and my children were safe. So Mom did all she could to get her kids away from a terrible guy. Yeah good stuff. That's a good mom You know what I mean? Yeah, she could have stayed and let their kids then be abused for years and years by this fucking guy So a little bit about Barry here. Berry is an explosive personality. I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean, she is all energy all the time,
Starting point is 00:13:52 got a lot going on. And like in high school, she's involved in like every activity. I would be exhausted doing any one of these things. Just the amount of energy you'd have to do to do school and this. She played saxophone in the jazz band, which right away sounds like that's tiring.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Just a lot of blowing and a lot of... Those instruments, all of them are crazy. You gotta do that up and down movement over and over again. I don't know how people play those instruments. Your mouth goes fucking numb. Your lips are fucked up. Yeah, that's a whole separate... That's a whole lifestyle you gotta get used to there.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And she ran track and cross country. In her freshman year, she placed 11th in the state in the 4A cross country meet. So. That's pretty good. She's pretty good. And she graduates in 1996 from Riverton High School. So that's the era she's in high school.
Starting point is 00:14:44 She was also in the 4-H club. She did, like we said, cross country, regular track, not just cross country. She did the music saxophone stuff. She did the drill team and the free steppers. I don't know what that is, but no clue. I didn't do activities in high school. She won a bunch of awards and honors She was a Riverton High School student of the week and she was selected for the who's who among American high school students
Starting point is 00:15:18 Group from some magazine. So she's just doing the most high school And somehow has she has a million friends and has a like a social big social life and that. I don't even know how you'd have time for that. You'd get home and be exhausted. She actually has a high school career, man. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, this is so the opposite of my high school career, which was... She's the most professional high schooler I've ever heard of. Her life was like, be at school as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Whereas I think our experience was, get out of school as soon as we possibly could in the day Bell rings I want off campus immediately and maybe a couple classes short of that even I'm going home and I ain't coming back till tomorrow. So Everybody's watching the clock countdown. I want to be gone already. I'm already gone. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead those suckers. So Yeah, I'm gonna smoke half a pack before this idiot gets out of biology and learns how bad this is for me so big personality lots of friends always laughing very gregarious that's the best way to describe her her mom says she remembers that she would have belching contests with her. Barry and Barry's best friend would have belching contests. So she's a fun girl.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yeah, she's a fun chick man. That's fun in high school. I would have liked her. You know what I mean? I'd be impressed that they found two that can do it. Yeah, like you two are awesome. This is her mom says this, or a friend of hers, I'm sorry, said this. She had a nickname for everybody, and they weren't mean nicknames, they were nice and they were funny. And she said she, yeah, she just was that kind of person.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Gave everybody, makes them feel special by addressing them with something about them that shows you're paying attention basically here. Her mother describes her as an ordinary all-American girl. And then she says, this is a wild quote, that her mother has a bunch of like, she's meaning them as compliments, and she loves her daughter more than anything,
Starting point is 00:17:21 but they come across in black and white as like kinda backhanded a little bit He says she says quote. She wasn't the smartest the prettiest the fastest or the slowest The hell does that mean I mean that doesn't I know that she's just trying to say she's just a regular kid and all That but the way it said and when you read that on paper you're like Jesus She wasn't the smartest or the prett when you read that on paper you're like Jesus she wasn't the smartest or the prettiest or the fastest but you know good kid I don't know why she had to throw the prettiest part in there what the fuck that's what I mean you had to throw that in there to the
Starting point is 00:17:55 prettiest really uh she then said she wasn't super human but she's a super person so it's like saying like almost like I don't want her to think she's special or anything but she's a good person but don't think you're doing anything special there. That is a wild fucking man. That's a rough rough run there. So she got a bunch of recipient of several small scholarships after high school and a grant she is pursuing wants to pursue a degree in fashion merchandising. Oh So that she chooses to go to Northwest College in Powell Northwest not Northwestern Northwest College in Powell, which is a two-year college. It's a junior college essentially All right. Yeah. Yeah, like not I don't think it's like a community college, because they have dorms and shit there.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Oh. So it's a stay in college, but it's also like a two year deal. So I guess junior college would be the only way to put it, or like a specialized. Yeah, just a minute, then get out of here. Probably have specialized programs. So yeah, when she went to college, she said that her brother Ryan said that he remembered
Starting point is 00:19:09 taking her up to college and she had so much shit packed. There was two cars stuffed full of her shit and they were bickering about it and everything like that, which is kind of funny. She gets into college here, this is early September 96, she shows up at Northwestern in Powell, and right away she's involved in the jazz and the concert band program, she joined the home ec and ski clubs,
Starting point is 00:19:32 I mean she was like, what can I do? So she's out of her shell, there is no shell to come out of. Her shell is, she left it long behind, before the first belching contest her shell was Way gone. That's in homeroom freshman year. That's where that shit's at. Yep gone so October 4th 1996 here as if she's been in college a month and she's got already has a million friends and everybody knows her She's just that kind of person so that night night she's going out with a friend of hers
Starting point is 00:20:05 named Jessie, a young lady, I.E. So they're going out to a dance, which turns out to be kind of a boring little, kind of breaks up early, not really much going on, nothing popping at the dance. So then they hear about a party at the dorms, so they're like, all right, let's go to the dorm party. So they do.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So Barry and Jessie go to this dorms, so they're like, all right, let's go to the dorm party. So they do. So Barry and Jesse go to this dorm party, and there's a bunch of other students there, it's a lot of people, it's a party. So there's an acquaintance of theirs, both Jesse and Barry there, named Levi Collin, C-O-L-L-E-N. He's at the party too. Now he has, for the last couple months,
Starting point is 00:20:45 kind of been sweet on Barry. I mean that on purpose, pun intended. He's been sweet on her a little bit. He's been, you know, just kind of, a little bit of interest toward her. Hasn't overtly asked her out or anything like that, and she hasn't overtly rejected him. He kind of pursues, she kind of demures a little bit
Starting point is 00:21:04 and doesn't really respond to it. So that's what's been going on. Well, cat and mouse for the last month or so. So anyway, they go to the small party in a dorm and she's having a couple of drinks and she was having this is a fun part too. This is such a college kid thing to do. She was trying a bunch of different mixed drinks, like a sip of each of them, to see which ones tasted the least like booze. She was trying to find her drink. That's hilarious. She's trying to get fucked up and like the taste. She's the original girl looking for Zima.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Yeah, she's looking for, what's it, 96? There was plenty of Zima. She's looking for what's 96 there's plenty of Zima she's looking she's looking she's looking for mixed drinks here what's my mixed drink of choice yeah that I'll drink for the next 20 years because it disguises the taste of alcohol which is such an 18 year old thing to do first month of college these are the things you need to work out you know I'm saying need to work out a system in case you're fucking in the room with your roommate you need to work out what your drink is I like to be fucked up what's the one that doesn't taste like I'm getting out a system in case you're fucking in the room with your roommate, you need to work out what your drink is. I like to be fucked up. What's the one that doesn't taste like I'm getting fucked up?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yup. So, now this Levi guy here, Levi Todd Collin, he's about six, eight months older than her, but he's born in 77, but still, same, he just got to college too. Now that summer, Colleen had attended a 4-H junior leader conference. Wow, she's ambitious. Yeah, Colin did, I'm sorry. Colleen, I just said, I meant Colin. Colin attended this, he was there,
Starting point is 00:22:35 and she was also there too, Barry was there. So they both also attended the Wyoming State Fair and Douglas as well. So they've been running into each other at places before school and now they're in school together. Now Colin here comes from, he's a, the 10 Sleep area, that's a town. It's a-
Starting point is 00:22:56 10 Sleep? 10 Sleep. 10 Sleep, like 10 nights I guess or whatever. This by the way is such a small town. Wait till I tell you about how many people are in his graduating class and shit, it's bonkers. So anyway, he was the captain of both the football and basketball team.
Starting point is 00:23:14 They could organize both teams. And homecoming king. Okay. So, he, you know, this is a kid who can do whatever he wants in this town. You know what I'm saying? He's the king of this town essentially here. I found a bunch of-
Starting point is 00:23:28 Wasn't homeschooled, huh? No, no, no, no. There's a school there. That'd be fun. It's just me and my two little brothers, one's six years younger, one's eight years younger, and my little sister, she's five, and I'm the captain of the football team, you know, and a homecoming king. You know, my little brother was picking his nose during the ceremony. I knew I had it right there That's that's gonna lose you a couple of votes
Starting point is 00:23:55 So I found a bunch of newspaper clippings about him in the paper a last second shot by ten sleeps Levi Collins sent the game into overtime for a basketball he led the team with this many points here here's one where he had 10 unassisted tackles and 11 assisted tackles wow he's played middle linebacker he's not a huge guy either so that tells you the football team as well yeah he had a do you know how many kids were in the graduating class? No, but I hope you tell me six Every boy in the school is on the football team and a few girls do that's you know That's a whatever you would need them just to fill by even if you don't play
Starting point is 00:24:42 Like listen kid, I know you don't want to play football But we can't have a team unless you just put a uniform on and stand on the sidelines we have to have enough people we're using the practice tackler as the open as the front line because we don't have this is it's all we got you can't even practice we got to do like four on four practice drills so there's an article that says, Colin took on many leadership responsibilities within this six student graduating class. Well, yeah, he rose to
Starting point is 00:25:12 the top of that big pack there. If I can make it there, I can make it anywhere. Isn't that what Sinatra was singing about? Christ. In some cases, they said he took other students under his wing one of his classmates said and Encourage them to participate and do their best in school activities Everybody's gonna know each other so well, there's six people in the entire graduating class Just encouraging them to participate. That's easy because we need yeah, you have to I'd like to play so you have to play
Starting point is 00:25:45 So he got in a little bit trouble in high school He was cited twice for illegally possessing alcohol as a minor kid shit drinking beer or whatever No other contact with him at school. He's very well regarded One kid said more than once I was able to call his parents and know this isn't a kid as a teacher and say that He had made excellent choices about how to handle himself. It's such a small school that if you do something nice they call your parents to tell you about it, to tell them all about what a good kid you are. Imagine that.
Starting point is 00:26:18 My mom would have loved at least one of those calls. One just to, no, no, not calling, just you know, not in trouble, not to, just wanted to say, what a good guy, so. What did he do now? Good things, what? Okay, yeah, my dad would've been shocked. He would've been mad, because I told, all he ever told me was just make it so nobody calls me.
Starting point is 00:26:38 That's all he ever said to me in school. Don't get in trouble, don't get such bad grades, they call, just fucking hang. Just show up. Show up and keep me. Don't get such bad grades. They call just fucking hang show up and keep me out of it basically. So yeah, he would have been probably annoyed with that. Why are you telling me this? So he's not in trouble. Why are you telling me this? Great. Click. Can't you send a letter? Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. Send a send a fucking plaque or something. I don't know. He did great, give him a fucking award then for Christ's sake. Maybe he'll continue it.
Starting point is 00:27:07 He's a fuck up. Give him a fucking nice guy badge or something, a congeniality badge, I don't know. So Levi's into him here, or into Barry, I'm sorry. So during freshman orientation, when they were both there, Levi saw her in a dorm lounge and told the kid behind her, or next to him, quote, I'm going to get her. I'm going to get that one right there. And so that's a thing. So he's been had his eyes on her here. In the early hours of December 4th, 2024, CEO Brian Thompson stepped out onto the streets of Midtown Manhattan.
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Starting point is 00:29:39 Now just about a week before a week to two weeks before this night. So, you know, late mid mid mid to late September, Jesse, who's Barry's friend, recalled an excursion that they took into the countryside with. It's her and Barry and they and Levi, the three of them in a car. OK. Now, she thought she was just being paranoid here, but she said something was weird and she just kinda, like he seemed very amiable and real nice guy on the surface, but there's something below the surface
Starting point is 00:30:12 that makes her uncomfortable, Jesse. Yeah, apparently they were cruising around, Barry's driving, Barry behind the wheel, and Levi had just made, he just out of nowhere, they weren't talking about sex or anything like that He just turned and said I bet you're still a virgin To Barry. Yeah, so Jesse was a bit offended That on that like that he would bring this up because there was not a they're not that close they just met each other and
Starting point is 00:30:42 Okay, I don't know. So she just took it as a little bit. I don't know, Jesse, I wasn't asking you, so calm down. Hey Jesse, he's looking in the rear view, I'm seeing right now. Jesse, I asked, there's a reason you're in the backseat, sweetheart. Shut the fuck up. No interest, honey. So she thought that was a little bit weird.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And I think in this part of the country, too, it's a little bit different than where we grew up in different environments than that. So these are nice people, you know what I mean? What do you want? Well, they're not, they're overt. We'd be asking, you weren't panties? Right now, actively. Right now.
Starting point is 00:31:17 We were dummies that put them on the spot way harder. So I was jerking off last night, right? I really, I mean, I had a good fucking stroke going to, I'm telling you right now, this wasn't any like, I wasn't thinking about it. I was fucking running toward the goal line right now. So, uh, anyway, Jesse was offended, but Barry, she said, didn't let it bother her at all. Didn't have, didn't give it a pause and just told him that she sure was and was proud of It too. Oh, so yeah, she's not none of your business
Starting point is 00:31:51 She said yep. That's right and proud of it motherfucker. So, you know Jesse said it just made her skin crawl. She said yeah She said that it just his smirk on his face wasn't just something and it's vibes said she said that it just his smirk on his face wasn't just something and it's vibes listen ladies vibes you if you get a vibe like that from a guy don't be around him yeah trust it even if it's wrong who fucking cares if he makes you creeped out that's not gonna be your soulmate anyway so gives a shit fucking literally you don't like that guy yeah don't give him a chance it does you don't need to so and vice versa if you sensed guys you sense
Starting point is 00:32:25 the crazy vibe fucking run you see a little Casey Anthony twinge in her eye you go I gotta get away from this leg go so Jesse said that she grew increasingly uneasy the further they got away from town she just felt that Levi was up to no good so she asked Barry she asked Berry if she would take her back to campus, which Berry did, turned around, dropped her off of campus, and that's that. So yeah, she just said she just felt uneasy with the guy, which, it's a vibe, people get a vibe.
Starting point is 00:32:56 So back to the party, back to the dorm party now. Berry excuses herself to go to the bathroom, which is down the hall. It's one of those shared bathroom situations, which is a good reason to not go to college. So, that would've kept me away from college, and even if I had the grades, the desire.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Good reason to do that shit online. Yeah, I'd have been like, I'm not sharing the bathroom with other people. I'm not dealing with your shit, and your shit, and your shit. Nope. So I come here and get yelled at by adults who think they're better than everyone, and then I go back to my room
Starting point is 00:33:27 Where I shit where he shits? I'm yeah I'm not doing any and he and her all of them. Nope, don't think so I don't trust anybody to keep this tidy. Yeah So then Levi after Barry leaves Turned to Jesse, because Jesse's there, here, and said, hey, think I got a chance with her? I really was still looking to hook up with her.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And Jesse says, no, you don't. You have no fucking chance with her. I'll tell you right now. He said she just broke up with a long-term boyfriend before she came to college. And she said she's not gonna be dating anybody for a while. She wants to get into school and deal with school and friends and activities and shit.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Very healthy is what she's doing. Also, she just broke up with a long-term boyfriend that clearly never had sex with her. So you got zero chance. No sex. Long-term. I got got zero chance. No sex. Yep. Long term. I got put in a lot of work. Small town, long term boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:34:30 How many dinners did he have over the house and sat out on the porch with mom and all this bullshit? Yeah, and he got nothing. So you should keep on walking. So she, he said, ah, come on. He said, why don't you, you can hook us up. He says to Jesse, you're a friend, hook us up? He says to Jessie your friend hook us up You know what a good word from you can yeah talk her into it basically
Starting point is 00:34:50 She said no she told me she doesn't want to date anybody and leave her alone. That's that's it So that's all so she turned away from him started talking to somebody else Now at some point he slipped out of the room. Levi does. Now all we know is that he left the room and someone ends up seeing Barry and Levi leaving the dorm parking lot in Levi's car. Together. Together. So somehow he slipped into the hallway, caught her when she came back from the bathroom and talked her into going Away from this party. Okay, and she didn't go in and tell her friend. She was leaving. She just left Yeah, so that's what that's what I would think is it's a quick thing maybe or something if she's leaving the party for the night
Starting point is 00:35:42 She'd tell her friend. I would assume hey, I'm taking off now. But I'm going to come with me. Some story like that. Yeah. Traditionally, when you go out with someone together, you if you're going to split up, you tell them what you're doing. Yeah. So she didn't know this, though. The friend was wasn't paying attention.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Then after a while, she goes, I don't see Barry. Where the hell is she? And so she, you know, doesn't know where she is. She stayed behind, she thought Berry was coming back. Jesse ended up going back to her dorm room and go, I guess she's not coming back after a while. At about midnight, Jesse gets a phone call. It's from the RA, the resident advisor, from Berry's dorm.
Starting point is 00:36:20 And she said, hey, have you seen Berry? I know you guys went out tonight, but she hasn't come back yet, and I was wondering if you've seen her. So Jessie said, I haven't seen her. She was at a party and then she disappeared. So Jessie goes out, gets out of bed, and goes and looks around campus for her,
Starting point is 00:36:37 and then went with the RA to the parking lot to see if Barry's car was there. And it is, but she's not there, none of her stuff's in it. It's just, you know, her car's in the parking lot. So they're like, all right, so she didn't leave in her car. So then they call her mom Sharon. I mean, yeah, this is, you don't wanna just get like a flight of fancy to do something fun
Starting point is 00:37:00 because they're gonna be calling your mom two hours into it, that's rough. You know? At midnight. Yeah, like, Jesse better hope something's wrong with Barry otherwise Barry's gonna be like what the fuck are you doing? I finally get a little freedom you're calling my mom at 1 a.m. What the hell? So Sharon, here's the phone ringing and she said she knew something was wrong before she picked it up and she learned that she couldn't her daughter couldn't be found and she said holy shit so she hung up and she called every
Starting point is 00:37:29 hospital in within a hundred mile radius of the place and she said that no one fitting Barry's description had been admitted she asked you know 18 year old blonde college girl no okay so Jesse also had checked the local hospital before the mom even called and Barry wasn't there. So Jesse was very worried too. So yeah, she's gone, no one knows. Now Levi ends up returning to his dorm after a while. He returns to his dorm and when he shows up, he's wearing clothes that are covered in blood.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Absolutely, they were called blood soaked clothes, covered. I mean, not a couple of spatters. Tie dyed. Dude fucking took a dip in the pool of blood. Yeah, like not good. It's early morning, you know, middle of the night, whatever. So he convinced that he has three dorm mates and they said what the fuck happened to you Jesus Christ you look at what you look at Carrie right now. What's going on? You're coming in a murder o'clock with blood all over you covered in your head to dripping blood from your fucking hair
Starting point is 00:38:38 So he said I was in a serious fight with a guy. I got in a fight with this dude Yeah, like for real serious said my night because he carries a knife all the time And he said my I got to stab the guy it was a hole It was a real fucking affair here So they helped clean him up get the ball the blood off of him anyway You know helped him change and everything and then they off he said my knife is back at the where I got in this fight I dropped my knife So they said he
Starting point is 00:39:05 said well you guys give me a ride back a ride out there so I can go get my knife and they said yeah that's fine we'll drive up to the where you've gotten this fight and wherever that is so on the way there they're talking to him well who'd you get in a fight with because you know you'd want details of that you're covered if you're that covered in blood whose whose blood was on you, you know what I'm saying? We got so many, how'd it happen? So, in the car with these three guys, he says, well, yeah, it wasn't exactly like I said it was.
Starting point is 00:39:38 You know, it was, yeah, it was kind of a fight, but it wasn't with a guy, and it was actually with a girl, girl and eventually after a few minutes the story goes from I got in a fight with this dude and he tried to attack me and I had to stab him to I raped and murdered a girl. Holy get out. So no not get out the these are good fucking dudes actually here they fucking tackle him and restrain him and take and fucking drive somewhere to call the cops. Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 00:40:11 They absolutely want nothing to fucking do with this. Like, when it was a guy and you got in a fight, that's we'll help you out and we'll cover up your, help you cover your tracks or whatever, but not you raped and killed a girl. Yeah. Literally immediately, like somebody punched him and tackled him and they were like fuck that you're Going to we're getting you arrested. This is crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:40:30 So now the crazy thing is the cops had already heard about Levi This isn't like five in the morning the the thing with the friends is happening But the cops already know about Levi because the county prosecutor was Going to bed at night when the police called to let the prosecutor know that they were speaking to a college student who was covered in blood and said he'd been in a fight with another male student and may have killed him. Cause they, they take him to the police station and they're like, go in there motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:40:59 And yeah, he shows up and that's your story. That's his story. He shows up and goes, yeah, I got a fight with a dude and I'm afraid I may have killed him But then they hear because they're Barry's reported missing So they hear from other people that as soon as she's missing on campus everybody starts talking and The person who saw him Barry and Levi leave the parking, calls the police and tells them about it. The friend who was standing next to him during orientation when he said I'm going to get that one right there, he called the cops and said I know a guy who was real interested in that girl and like yeah, like everybody was, this place is a snitch central man, these motherfuckers, you can, no one will keep your secret up here.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Yeah, this is crazy. I mean it's good because he's, you know, obviously not a good guy, but man, you don't want to let anybody in on your secret up here. Yeah, this is crazy I mean, it's good because he's you know, obviously not a good guy But man, you don't want to let anybody in on your fuck up bullshit up here boy so So at first they sit him down and he says Listen, yeah, this guy was just you know coming at me and I had to defend myself. You know what I'm saying? And as he goes on one of the cops will say later on, this guy was just completely dispassionate
Starting point is 00:42:08 about what he'd done, totally unrepentant. And he is too, this guy is a dangerous motherfucker. Because we find out, by the way, because they look into him a little bit, while they're, you know, while he's sitting in the interrogation room waiting to be talked to, they're looking him up and figuring out who the hell he is and what kind of angle they can take on him.
Starting point is 00:42:28 And it turns out he's been accused of sexual assault before, more than once. This, about a month before this, at Northwest College he was accused of sexual assault, but was never charged. Yeah, they report that he had been investigated for allegedly fondling a female student at his grade school as well,
Starting point is 00:42:51 but he wasn't charged in that case either. Like, you know, in high school. So the college officials with the assault from a month ago, college officials determined that the alleged victim wanted to cooperate with authorities, and then they encouraged her to contact local law enforcement officers and she did out of her residence hall during the course of the investigation. And they said he apparently complied with the order even after the investigation was completed.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And they never filed any charges against him for some reason. What the fuck? And that was a month ago. Now the fact that the mere fact that he was being investigated for this, you'd think would be a deterrent to do more. But this just emboldened him.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yeah. If it's be a deterrent to do more, but this just emboldened him Yeah, if it's not a deterrent at least a warning that we're watching you mother. That's what I'm saying a deterrent Meaning I'll get caught if I keep doing this they're looking at me. Yeah, it's a small town It's not like you're in fucking, you know You know Philadelphia or something like there's a lot of I can't believe they couldn't do anything something like there's a lot of people here. I can't believe they couldn't do anything. No charges and it was a month ago but I guess they had it was over like they weren't like still ongoing. So anyway, yeah, he tells them listen self-defense I stabbed a strange man in self-defense and that's all there is to it. So they said well Levi that doesn't really match up because your
Starting point is 00:44:23 Face hands and forearms are covered in scratches How long were this guy's nails? Right? He's a he's a sudden. I've been in fights with guys You've been in fights with guys. None of them ever really scratch up like that That's not really part of the game and if they do there's just like a street fight. Yeah. Yeah And it's an errant one or something on your forehead It's not four fucking fingers digging in the and ripping your skin off. Yeah, that's Very different there. Um, so they said that doesn't fit with you getting in an anonymous street fight with some dude Like that just doesn't work like that. They said it looks like
Starting point is 00:45:02 Someone was trying to defend themselves from you. And, you know, I'm not sure that I think I don't think you were the guy trying to defend yourself, basically. So they said, listen, we don't think you're telling the truth. You're full of shit. So he wow. He says, OK, fine. I killed Barry. Whoa. But it's not what you think it is. No, no. You think I'm a monster. And I took her out there to kill her. That's crazy. No, no, no. Yeah. That's exactly what we're thinking. You got it. Levi. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:38 We think you're a scumbag. That's what we think. Exactly. So he said that they met up at the party and agreed to take a ride out to Polecat Beach. He said once they got there, they engaged in consensual sex in the backseat of her car. So she's not interested in him and she went out with a guy long term, didn't have sex with him, proudly a virgin, all this shit. But she said, you know what? I'm going to fuck this guy who I don't really like in the backseat of his car that's how I'll that's how I'll lose it. A gal who clearly holds her virginity and the and her first time in regard of like she probably wants it to be special.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Polecat Beach please. Polecat Beach backseat of an 89 Pontiac. Literally an 89 Pontiac. Yeah. Literally an 89 Pontiac. Polcat sounds like a slang term for a stripper on the first place. Like a derogatory term for a stripper. When I first saw Polcat Beach I thought it was a strip club and then in the context of it I was like oh that's not that's an actual beach. I thought it was a strip club.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Polcat Beach and there's like sand on the stage too, you know what I mean? That's how they do it. It sounds derogatory, like you would go, what is she some sort of fucking pole cat? Yeah, she's a pole cat, that one. I met her on the pole, she's a pole cat. So yeah, that's what he says. He said they engaged in consensual sex in the back seat of his car. He said when they were finished, everything seemed fine.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Everybody was satiated and happy and then he said out of nowhere Barry just started hitting him in the back of the head with a beer bottle oh yeah that fits her character right all of this does she's gonna fuck this guy in the back seat and then just attack him with a beer bottle like Eileen Warnos or something yeah that's who she is so yeah he said he was dazed he's being bashed with an unprovoked attack so he said he just grabbed his knife and just was like oh my god he said he had to stab her because she was out of control just swinging a beer bottle at her screaming like a banshee fucking bashing him in the head with a beer bottle in close quarters. He got no choice. I had to stab her. So he said,
Starting point is 00:47:50 I thought you'd blame me obviously for it. You know, didn't look good. Right. And all. So I hit her body, you know, because that's what you do when you get self-defense fights, you hide the body. And then I made up this story, because I knew I was coming home with blood all over me, so I had to make something up. So he said, I went back to my dorm, and I made up the story, told my friends there that a random guy assaulted me, and I had to do that,
Starting point is 00:48:17 and I had to kill him. So they said, well, would you be willing to take us to the site where this all happened? And he said, well, would you be willing to take us to the site where this all happened? And he said, okay, fine. So now one of the interesting things here is that she has taken a lot of self-defense classes, by the way. Okay, so she can defend herself, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:38 She's only like 100 pounds, but she's taken a lot of defense classes and knows some tricks of the trade here. So a lot of these marks are because she was not going down easy. That's the thing. Not going down at all. So let's find out if he's telling the truth. They go, it's, it's Levi and the detectives in one car and the prosecutor in another car driving out there. You don't want to go car rides with the prosecutor. You're in trouble. No, no, this is quite the caravan here. This is a
Starting point is 00:49:05 scary caravan. So they went off the back roads in the middle of the night looking for the turn off that he described. They kept coming up empty time and time. They kept going to where he would say and there's no turn off. They like he said. So after a while they're like you're full of shit. You're lying to us. Why you're lying about where the fuck you're taking us. That's that's it. Like you're you're not telling You're lying to us. Why? You're lying about where the fuck you're taking us. That's it. Like, you're not telling us the goddamn truth here. So there's a wild goose chase.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And these people have been up all night and they know that this guy is covered in a teenage girl's blood. So they have no patience for his bullshit at this point. So they ended up, they call the driver of the car that Colin is in and said the prosecutor's back there and gets pissed off and says, fucking pull over, pull these cars over here. Yeah. I'm talking to this guy now. So the prosecutor comes up to talk to him.
Starting point is 00:49:57 This is crazy. Normally if you kill somebody, six hours later you won't be getting yelled at by the prosecutor on the side of the road. Like that's a good thing. Usually. Yeah. Things happen fast in my own. They usually reserve that for a judge to tell him what he can and cannot yell at you about. No shit.
Starting point is 00:50:16 So she said she called upon every ounce of patients she could gather basically to try to get through to him. And she said, look, we're not playing fucking games anymore either you're gonna help us or you're not and if you're not we're gonna make it real difficult for you and So basically he just said okay fine And then from then he's told them exactly where the body was and they went right to it. They wasted hours driving around It just took her to say stop it, and he goes fine. Fine, yeah, basically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:48 I'm not taking anymore, just treat them like a child, basically. You're gonna be in trouble, mister, and he's like, okay. So they find her at a place called, it's an area known as The Bench. It's about 16 miles away from the college. It's an area north of Powell.
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Starting point is 00:53:06 You can join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app, Spotify, or Apple podcasts. That's all. Every town has one. So they find poor Barry here. She is partially clothed and in the sage brush out there, just lying there. Now it was obvious when they see her that she,
Starting point is 00:53:26 this was not a oh my god I got hit in the head with a beer bottle and had to stab her to save myself once. She is absolutely cut to fucking ribbons, man. It's horrifying, you know it by the amount of blood he was covered in that this is, it's horrifying. Extensive bruising to her face and head. So beat this fucking poor girl, beat her.
Starting point is 00:53:50 In addition to that, numerous stab wounds evident on her torso and her throat had been sliced from ear to ear with such ferocity that she was nearly decapitated. Like Nicole Brown Simpson essentially. Multiple slashes by the way. Oh really, oh really not just one frenzy of slashes They shit is his problem and they determine that she was also violently raped before that as well So it couldn't have been in any worse for this poor fuck
Starting point is 00:54:20 Her hands and arms were covered with defensive wounds. Her fingernails were broken off. I mean, she fought hard. Her hands are sliced to shit. She grabbed the knife blade several times to try to defend herself. Because that's in self-defense what they taught her. It was, fuck, you lose a finger, but you won't, don't get killed, basically.
Starting point is 00:54:40 So, it's fucking horrifying. These people are, they want to murder this kid in the sagebrush, obviously. Like he's, this is disturbing. So they call mom the next morning after they find poor Barry. And mom says, I remember, I'm sorry, this is the Powell police chief said,
Starting point is 00:54:56 I remember trying to be very careful. But she said, listen, I'm a nuts and bolts type of person. I need you to tell me what happened and what you saw. The mom said that, like, listen, don't fucking dance around it. Tell me how bad it is, basically. I'm a nuts and bolts type of person. I need you to tell me what happened and what you saw The mom said that like listen don't fucking dance around it. Tell me how bad it is basically So he explained what they pieced together and described what he saw when he got out there and that's what she wanted to know. So anyway He told police that after that
Starting point is 00:55:23 They said dude Levi told police that after that they said, dude, Levi, what you said happened didn't happen. Look what you did to this fucking girl. And he said, okay, fine, this is what happened. He said, I drove her out here, about 16 miles north of Powell. When I got there, she was upset and she got out of the car and started to walk back to town on foot.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Yeah. Yeah, she said, I told you no, and I to walk back to town on foot. Yeah. Yeah. She said, I told you no and I will walk 16 miles. Fuck you. That's in the middle of the night. She screamed for the last 10 miles to turn around. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Well, he fucking sped at 65 miles an hour probably. So he said he had a hunting knife in his car and he put the knife in his back pocket and chased after her. He said he tackled her and raped her, used his, he said he bit her to force her to submit to it. He was biting her, used his teeth. He also sliced up her face to get her to stop struggling. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Was slicing up her face. It's fucking disgusting. Absolutely goddamn fucking disgusting. So, yeah. So he said that he just, he wasn't, he went after her and he threw her on the ground and did it and he said after that, he said that he admitted he beat her,
Starting point is 00:56:39 he raped her, he claimed that he never meant to kill her, he said, and he said he. You cut a woman's face, There's no turning back cuz you exactly You're not gonna just go back to me like nothing happened. That's you've maimed her now. Yeah, this is crazy shit So he justified his actions by saying he only stabbed her because she wouldn't stop fighting back. Oh Gee she wouldn't she didn't want to get raped. You poor guy, what a pain in the ass. You can't even fucking, wow.
Starting point is 00:57:10 So this is obviously fucking disturbing. He's not a big guy, but he's athletic. He's a middle linebacker, and that's why I told you about that kind of thing. That's why you can chase her down and tackle her. And that's why I said, yeah, I don't give you these stats for no reason. So he's good at it. She weighed like 105 pounds. And that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:30 I guess when she continued to fight, he said he pinned her hands to the ground with his knees and cut her again. And then said he, fuck, he said that he became enraged by the sound of the breaths that she was making. Her breathing enraged him to the point where he thought to him it was an act of defiance, he said, that she was doing that. So he just kept slashing her throat, he said, to get her to stop breathing. Just ear to ear, back and forth. This is horrifying horrifying this is Ted Bundy shit man this is the first first time this guy did I mean obviously he's not good at it he's covered in blood but he's capable of this that's yeah
Starting point is 00:58:16 terrible he's had two other women accuse him and but this is an escalation that's all the last woman would happen he tried tried to go after her and he got caught. So he realized, oh, if you rape somebody, you have to kill them. Yep, so that's unbelievable, man. They said he had a reputation for being a charmer and somehow managed to talk her into leaving with him. And I'm sure it was, I need help doing something
Starting point is 00:58:43 for five minutes, you know? So that, as she she said and everybody said they they were cordial so she wouldn't have had any reason to suspect he was gonna attack her or anything like that it's she's at college these were all college students everybody knows them they both know each other and you would never think that so they charge him with first-degree murder first-degree sexual assault and later on kidnapping as well. Which obviously here, he's held on a $1 million bond, and or without bond on the murder
Starting point is 00:59:12 and a million dollar bond on the sexual assault. So you're not going anywhere, chief. The murder charge carries a maximum penalty of death, and the sexual assault charge carries a penalty of up to 50 years in prison. So he's fucked Yeah, he's he's fucked himself good and I'm happy for it. So I'm not happy that what happened, but I'm happy that they caught him So they said this wasn't the first murder they've ever had around here
Starting point is 00:59:36 But the the one first one with this kind of brutality like this is a this is a small town man Her head's nearly cut off. This is a small town, man. Her head's nearly cut off. This is fucking wild. One of the police officers said, man, you talk about a sucker punch to people's morale. They said the whole town, they literally started locking their doors at that point. This was the breaking point where a small farming town went from, hey, everybody knows, everybody, we all wave from our porches to lock them up, roll them up, lock them down. So.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Someone is capable of that in town, but he is arrested and we're still gonna lock him because who knows if anyone else in town is capable of that shit. Now we know it exists. Yeah, yeah. Now we found out it exists. So, now teachers and other people that knew Levi
Starting point is 01:00:23 said that this was not the Levi they knew. This is crazy. One of his, the former principal of his high school said, I never saw that side to Levi. How can you think you know someone and see something like this happen? And the sheriff said, it's really taken a toll on the community.
Starting point is 01:00:40 He was a pretty popular kid. I believe it. He was a homecoming king and everything else. More than 300 students attended a campus memorial after the ceremony. They had a little ceremony for Barry's death there. Many of the kids, too, drove over 300 miles to Riverton for a funeral as well. Sure, yeah. Which made an impact on people pretty quick here.
Starting point is 01:01:02 The president at Northwest penned letters to parents reassuring them that everything's fine, everything's good, it was a one-off thing, we got the guy, I guess hundreds of people on campus wore purple ribbons and a photo of her also, they had these purple ribbons with a picture of her on there, and emboldened by this death, eight women at the college came forward
Starting point is 01:01:27 to report they'd been raped in the last month. Not by Levi, by other people, but they were too scared to come forward and they said, nope, this is what happens. Now they kill people the next time. And they came forward and reported what had happened. So this ended up emboldening a lot of people. So that's good, in a good way.
Starting point is 01:01:45 One of the ladies who came forward here agrees to press charges against Levi as well because he he attacked her as well Yeah, this is she learned of the murder and then said oh my god, I got to tell them what happened to me This was two months before the murder He coaxed her into his 1989 Pontiac by telling her it was all computerized, quote unquote. An 89 Pontiac. I know, he had a digital, like digital spinometer is what he's talking, what other computerized
Starting point is 01:02:19 could be in 1989? If it's not the fucking Night Rider Pontiac. There's Pong in there, yeah. There's Pac-Man in the dashboard. What are we talking about here? Was that a Firebird? It was a Firebird, wasn't it? Or was it a Camaro? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:33 It's just 89 Pontiac. Either way. No, no, I mean the night rider. It was a Trans Am. It was a Firebird, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a fucking Firebird. Totally, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I loved that shit when I was a kid. I loved the night rider car. If it wasn't that, then it wasn't computerized friend Did it talk to you? It's not kid that get the fuck out of that car Levi stop raping these women Levi Levi you're going to prison Levi you have blood all over you. Please stop with the rape Levi my interior is covered in viscera. So I guess when he said, yeah, no, no, look in it,
Starting point is 01:03:11 look in it, and she was looking in the car, this is like a fucking, you wouldn't believe that a human being would actually do this. She was looking in the car, and when she got close to the car, he shoved her inside, trapped her in there and drove to a remote location. This is crazy. That's straight up kidnapping. That's not even, I charmed him into the car.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Even Ted Bundy tried to charm them into the car. He didn't fucking shove them into the car for the most part. I mean, that was part of the game for him. You know? So when she resist, and then he tried to have sex with her in the car When she resisted and ran away he tackled her bit her neck, which is exactly what he did to fucking Barry so this is what he does he just escalated and
Starting point is 01:03:58 bit her neck and forced fucking raped her yeah and Later threatened to quote when when it was over, he said he would hunt her down and kill her if she went to the police. Now we believe. And she believed him at the time. And now that he's locked up though,
Starting point is 01:04:14 now she's not afraid of him anymore and she comes forward. So that's good. Oh, and one more, and one more, by the way. This is, again, when this reaches the public, a woman calls the cops to say she had been attacked by him in 1995 almost exactly a year to the day before Barry's murder The caller said that she had met Levi in a bar
Starting point is 01:04:38 He's 17 years old and I don't know what's going on up here in Wyoming man and And I don't know what's going on up here in Wyoming man and The two hit it off. She thought he was harmless and accepted his offer to go for a drive, which is he's perfecting See what I mean? He's getting it Wow Once they reached the outskirts of town his demeanor completely changed You got the Bundy thing where he turns in his eyes are different colors now Wasn't a friendly kid anymore. Now all of a sudden he told her, we're going to have sex now.
Starting point is 01:05:09 In a very matter of fact way that was not, you know, wasn't cute or like, You don't have a choice. Wasn't like, hey, you know what we're gonna do right now, winky dee wink. It was none of that shit. It was, we're gonna have sex now. So, you know, she was taken aback
Starting point is 01:05:24 and she told him that they will not be having sex now, actually. So he pulled a gun out, held it to her fucking head and ordered her to strip. My God. He then raped her while raping her. What did he think he was doing? Yeah. Biting her face and biting her arms. She said like a rabid animal, like breaking the skin, ripping her apart. When it was over, he calmly told her that he would kill her
Starting point is 01:05:52 and her whole family if she ever said anything to anybody about what just happened. And she said, she thought this guy seems sick as fuck, he's capable of anything. So she didn't come forward until she learned he was in police custody as well. This he's capable of anything. So she didn't come forward until she learned he was in police custody as well. This guy's a fucking monster. Serial killer. He would have been a serial killer. If he got away with this, he would have gotten worse and worse and worse. Absolutely. So will there be a trial here? Well, he waived a preliminary hearing. Yeah, he waived a preliminary hearing, which lets the prosecutor skip their obligation to present the evidence to,
Starting point is 01:06:28 basically to go to district court. It's a formality. He goes, oh, I know you have enough evidence, fine. So it would have went to trial, obviously, because there's all this fucking evidence and he admitted to it. So they're talking about a potential plea deal where he may broker, basically, I won't go to trial,
Starting point is 01:06:47 which is gonna cost the state a lot of fucking money if I don't get the death penalty. That'll be the deal that they're making here. The only way they're not gonna. That's it, otherwise they're gonna, yeah, they're gonna, a bunch of cowboys, they're gonna fry this fucking kid if they don't beat him to death first, so.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Jesus. They might let their horses beat him to death. They might drawn their horses beat him to death. They might draw and quarter this man. So a spokesman in the Wyoming attorney general's office said the murder trials can cost in the excess of millions of dollars, which the state just doesn't have. There's half a million people here, especially if the prosecutors are speaking the death penalty and then all the appeals that'll follow. This is going to cost the state more than they spend on anything except snow removal
Starting point is 01:07:26 and like bison carcass moving out of the road when they've been hit by a truck. Just get that Wiley horse from the Wyoming flag and get it to do some fucking brodies over his face. Yeah, we could do that maybe. So what this does here is it waives that requirement by the prosecutors and they said no plea agreement has been reached but they're talking about it. They said it had been
Starting point is 01:07:49 in Collins best interest to waive the preliminary hearing noting that the burden of proof in the hearing is more lenient than in an actual trial so it wouldn't have helped him anyway. So they decide that they are going to plea bargain. He's gonna plead guilty they're not gonna kill him that's how this is gonna work now. He's gonna plead plead guilty, they're not going to kill him. That's how this is going to work now. He's going to plead guilty to everything, kidnapping, rape, kidnapping of the other woman as well. It's all on the table here. So everything that happened in this state. So the Bryant family speaks at the sentencing. Sharon gets to speak. She said she was hoping for a sign of remorse from him as she said
Starting point is 01:08:27 She's trying to beat him up with words. Basically. That's all she can do. She read from a prepared statement She assured Levi that his hell on earth had just begun and that she hopes his memories and nightmares are haunted by the sounds of her dying So then the prosecutor read a statement from Ryan, who was her 16 year old brother. By the way, this is happening in November, literally a month and a half after the murder. He is already pleading. Oh boy, it's over. Well, like in most states, just to get on the docket takes forever. There's it's Wyoming dockets wide open. Yeah, there there's tumbleweeds blowing through the courtroom, just a judge sitting there waiting for you to fuck up so he can do something because they're bored.
Starting point is 01:09:09 They open the ledger and it's dusty. That's where we are. Where are we? When was the last time we were here? Eighty seven. Jesus Christ. The clerk's ribbon on her stenographer is all dried out. Yeah, it's like it's like an Arizona windshield wiper.
Starting point is 01:09:24 You should go to use it, it just breaks apart into pieces. She presses the shorthand keys over and over again to get one nut. Come on, man. Hold on, shut the fuck up for a minute. I'm trying to type this in. Wait, slow down.
Starting point is 01:09:36 A backspace, A backspace. Slow down. So, Ryan said, this is a very weird comment this family's comments are on Quote I always knew I'd have to bury her but not this soon Why did you know you have to bet she's two years older? It's not like she's 30 years older than him I knew I knew she'd go before me. You're the same age essentially. She's got a raging addiction and she smokes cigarettes She got a raging heroin addiction and she smoked cigarettes. Yeah
Starting point is 01:10:09 Man and this poor kid too. He loves his sister. Yeah, this sucks He said also I hope and know you will be haunted by the spirit of my sister Yeah, nice She's an aggressive ghost now. I like that. I had a room next to her. She haunted me. You're in you're in so much trouble, man We've heard a lot of these to her, she haunted me. You're in so much trouble, man. We've heard a lot of these statements from victim impact statements. Have we ever heard that one before? That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Both relatives right back to back are like, she's gonna, dude, you're in so much trouble. She's gonna be pissed. I've never heard anyone wish haunting from it like a spear. That's awesome Ryan you fucking that's a cool thing to do dude at 16. You did better than anyone else has done in any court We've ever covered My god, so Members of Levi's family wrote letters to the judge begging for leniency.
Starting point is 01:11:05 One of his former teachers told the news media that he remembered Levi as a polite, well-mannered young man. Well, now he's a biting, stabbing rapist, so who cares? And leniency! We're not going to kill him. That's as lenient as it gets. Wow. The judge said, not only fuck leniency, he said, I actually strongly considered rejecting the
Starting point is 01:11:26 plea agreement to make sure that you get the prospect of the death penalty. He said, I honestly said, I almost said, fuck that. I want to kill this kid. So he said, in this case, even if it were swift and certain, the death penalty would be too easy. You have taken away from the enjoyment of life of thousands of people. You are not fit to mingle among the good and decent people of our society." Called him a predator, cold blooded and even more despicable than his series of crimes and said, it is the expectation of this court that you will be imprisoned for the rest of your days, you sir may fuck off three consecutive life sentences. Plus I think 20 years or some shit on top of that. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:12:14 It's like in Wyoming, it's probably 85 years for. Yeah. He is fucked basically. And up there, that parole board doesn't hear a lot of crazy stories like this. You're gonna be the worst guy they talk to every year. They're gonna go, that? Yeah. This story would be a short meeting. This story would fuck up the LA County parole board. So this is gonna be real bad in Wyoming.
Starting point is 01:12:41 This sentence was imposed less than two months from the time the crime was committed. There's no doubts about the sentence, no lengthy appeals process. It was swift and certain. Old West justice that is. That's as speedy as the constitution offers. That is wild. Yeah dude. December 22nd, the next year, he asks for a sentence reduction. Really? But guess who that's up to? The original judge who wanted him murdered before his eyes. This judge denied the sentence reduction
Starting point is 01:13:17 and told Colin at his sentencing hearing that he considered, he said, I didn't even want to take this fucking plea agreement. And he said, I thought execution was too easy for you. Think I'm going to let your shit down. The college also, they installed emergency phones throughout the campus. And they kind of this brought them into the 21st century as far as protecting the kids. Twenty twenty two.
Starting point is 01:13:37 One of her friends are the resident advisor, I think, from when she was in college and her mom end up getting money together from donors to put a memorial bench in Powell. Well, that's nice. So yeah, it's a nice memorial bench with her picture on it and her years, and it says strawberry. It's very, very, very nice.
Starting point is 01:13:57 So they got that done in 2022, finally. God damn. And then her mom says, Sharon says, I feel like there was some healing that didn't take place many years ago. I really feel like this is something they needed. The space is a memorial to bury, but it's also an icon for all people who have been removed from life unjustly. And then the next year, Sharon dies. Oh shit. So she lived for that and then 2023 she died. Let's see where they buried Barry. The Barry burial is at Mountain View Cemetery
Starting point is 01:14:32 in Riverton, Wyoming. And it looks like dipshit Levi here is currently incarcerated at the Wyoming medium correctional institution in Torrington where he's involved in a dog training program. Oh, isn't that fucking nice? That's probably the nicest thing in the medium security. Ugh, what a cunt, yeah, fuck him.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And then there is also a Barry Bryant Memorial Scholarship Endowment at Northwest College as well. And this was covered on a TV show, what is it, what the hell is this? Evil Lives Here, that's what it is, the Dark Road episode. So there you go everybody. There is Wyoming.
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