Small Town Murder - Crazy Cousin Carnage - Depoy, Kentucky

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

This week, in Depoy, Kentucky, a rural family road is the scene of a wild massacre, leaving four dead, with everyone holding their breath to see if the fifth victim is still alive. This leads to a standoff with the entire police department, and a family torn between the horrors of this event, and not wanting their murderous relative to be killed. This strange tale of brutality ends with a bit of a miracle, and a very odd confession that leaves everyone stunned & confused!!   Along the way, we find out that Harley is a very litigious company, that cousins always have the oddest family bonds, and that even a person who has clearly lost their mind, still enjoys giving a baby some ice cream!!   New episodes, every Wednesday & Friday nights!! Check us out on VIDEO Wednesday and Friday evenings on Netflix! www.netflix.com/smalltownmurder Donate at patreon.com/crimeinsports or at paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder, Crime In Sports & Your Stupid Opinions!   Follow us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/smalltownpod   Also, check out James & Jimmie's other shows, Crime In Sports & Your Stupid Opinions on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts!!

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Okay. Let's go on a trip, shall we? All right. We are going to Kentucky this week. Down Kentucky way. Here we go. Now, the murder itself happened in a town called, I think it's DePoi. It's so small.

I can't even find a pronunciation for it. It's just, it's so small. There's no stats. It's basically just a few houses. There's no anything in the town. Depoy, I believe is how you say. I stole that. D-E-P-O-Y.

So it might be D-P-O-Y. It might be D-P-O-I. Maybe it's like Patrick Waugh, the goalie. Maybe it's, we don't know. Maybe. But it's so small, and it's only six minutes from Greenville. So Greenville is where, like, if you wanted to go get a Snickers bar, you'd go to Greenville for it, which is also a very tiny town. None of these places are big.

Greenville, Kentucky? Greenville, Kentucky. So the murder happened in DePoy. Well, when we have DePoy information, I'll give you that, but otherwise it's going to be for Greenville here. Greenville, Kentucky, they're both, it's Western Kentucky either way. about an hour and 45 to Nashville, about two hours to Louisville, and about 35 minutes to Madisonville, Kentucky, which was our last Kentucky episode, episode 655,

which was the murder of the queen, which was the Dairy Queen lady, if you remember that. Wow, we were so hungry after that show. Does she own one, right? Yeah, she was like for years and years. Like she had it since like the 50s. She was like an original dairy queen. She was one of the only ones that had like an original recipe ice cream.

Yeah, it was pretty cool. So, yeah, we want to. at Dillibar's bad after that. This is in Mulenburg County, which I don't think we've ever talked about before because I was like Mulenburg County. That's the county. I don't know. Muleenberg, like the German spelling with an H.

Area codes 270 and 364. Population here 4,507. So that is not much. It's a tiny place. Median household income here, about half the national average, which is not good. 34,000, 295. But luckily for them, Median home cost is also insanely low.

$127,300, which is like a third of the national average, basically. Find somewhere in the country. Yeah. It has to be in a place that you've never heard of. That's the only place you're going to find that. Now, a little bit of history on DePoy, I hope I'm saying that, right? It was a stop on the Illinois Central Gulf Railroad and was named for a railroad agent named Elmer de Poister. Huh.

He's the depoyster. And they were like, let's make it just depoy after him. Now, on Greenville, it was settled in about 1799 here on an estate donated by a local landowner named William Campbell to establish a new seat of government for a new county. So there you go. Now, it was incorporated as a city in 1848, so it took a while. It took 50 years. They think it maybe was named for the Revolutionary War General Nathaniel Green.

That's the best they can do. Otherwise, they don't know. Also, it's pretty green around there. Who knows? Now, in 1987, the Encyclopedia of Kentucky refers to Greenville as the, quote, unofficial capital of the black belt. They don't mean people. They mean production of coal and, quote, dark tobacco.

Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Well, things that are great for us. Anything that's going to fuck up your breathing apparatus. The cancer belt. Yeah, because this is the cancer belt. A couple reviews of this town here. There isn't much.

Here is one. Five stars. The job market here is very slim. I believe that. The middle of nowhere. Yeah. The county's always been dependent upon the coal industry. And with the government applying stricter laws and regulations, many companies have either

chosen to close or find different means to fuel their business. That in turn leads to the job loss across the board. Yeah, there are terrible jobs and then terrible jobs go away. and then there was no job. So it's like, well, I guess we wanted those terrible jobs. It sounds like the CEO of a company's noticing some loss and he started an only fan. Yeah, he's like, well, I guess I'll sell pictures of my feet. Now, four stars here.

The area is great because of how friendly and welcoming everyone is. It is a beautiful town that is growing. Is it? It's growing? How much is it growing, really? I mean, yeah. We had, well, we only had. It's growing.

We had 4,800, like 10 years ago. Now it was 5100, so 4,800, 4,900. We're doing great. Three stars here. One thing I like about Greenville is the fact that everyone knows everyone. I don't like that. It's a small town, and I always love going to Walmart and seeing people reunite with the people they haven't seen in a while. This is their social center here is Walmart.

Literally, I go there, oh, I saw that my buddy from high school. Like, what a, that's strange, right? My balls came through my undies. I'm going to go see Tom down at the Walmart. See if he can sell me some new ones. However, I've met a lot of ignorant people in this town, and that saddens me. People who yell racial slurs, I'd like to see change in the future. Yeah, you know, less people who are just indiscriminately yelling racial slurs.

It would probably be better for everyone. Sure do hope down the road of these. Yeah. Recognize the error of that? Maybe in the 2100s we'll figure that out down here. We don't know. I don't wish for anyone to feel uncomfortable and unsafe in any town. However, it's a problem in Greenville, Kentucky, and it has to change.

Okay, things to do in this town. Ooh, it is the Hogs H-A-W-G-S because Harley is very litigious, by the way. You can't name an event at a bar something with hog in it. They will fucking sue you. They will send you a cease and desist. They're crazy. The word hog, they own that shit, and you're not allowed to use it. They better tell that to Arkansas.

Well, they have actual hogs there. I'm talking. If you're referring to a motorcycle and you're calling it a hog. Is that what they're doing? Yes, they're referring to. Oh. Hogs, bogs and brews. Bike and Jeep Night, it's called.

Oh. Yeah. Like WCW Wrestling used to have a show called Hog Wild. That was at Sturgis. They had to change it to Road Wild because Harley. said we're suing you. You can't use the word hog. We own it.

They don't own hog, do they? Yeah, that's a real American old time to come, but sue you for using hog. It's so funny. They're corporate as shit, and everybody acts like they're like some. What a stupid thing to sue about. A bunch of guys get out of prison and then put a Harley shirt on and they're like, cool, right? Yeah, they're really cool.

They're not corporate at all. Hog, yep. So this is on May 30th here, so you can still have time. There's motorcycles, jeeps, cold beers, and live music. Huh. That's everything there, I would say. And then this next one, not a lot to do here, but I just like the name of it. The Squash and Gobble Arts and Crafts Festival.

Squash and Gobble. I don't know. It looks like crafts. It's a bunch of crafts. What's the gobble about? I don't know. And Brian Wiggins and Swift Silver will be playing there. Swip Silver.

Along with the local honeies. and Evan Galen. So, galleon. So there you go. That said. This is not good. No, it's small. So it's going to be tough there.

But if you don't have a Jeep or a Harley, you're asked out on everything. You got, well, I just assume if you live here, you have a four-wheel drive vehicle or a motorcycle or both. I think that's what they're assuming. I don't know. Both of them are vehicles that wave at each other if they see the other. Absolutely. Yeah. They all do it to each other.

Those are waivers. That's one thing. I never want any vehicle that puts me in a club. That's the wave community. Never ever. That's if I'm looking at cars, what are you looking for? Something that no one will wave at me in. That's what I'm looking for.

Something I'm not a part of a fucking anything. I don't want to be a part of your community. I think the Subaru community has an acknowledgement of some sort. I don't know what it is. I don't know what the lesbian hand signal is for Subaru. There's some sort of one of these. I'm not positive of what it is exactly. I think that's the wave.

I'm not sure. Yeah, it's the upside of the lesbian. We can say that because lesbians love us, by the way. We have tons of lesbian listeners and they're laughing the hardest at that. That's why we don't mind saying. But there's also, I'll bet, I'll bet you,

dollars to donuts, the forerunner community is the next one that does it. Oh, no. Well, that's hope not. Because that community is fucking deep. There's a lot of them now. There's a very common car. Oh, boy.

It's got to be top five leading. The Jeep wave is to try to get you to come over to the side of the road and help them. Yeah, Come help. Yeah. Hey, I'm, I need a... Hi, my AC doesn't work either.

I'm stuck here, yeah. All right, let's talk about a murder here. All right. Now, as of... We're going to go to 1999 here. Yeah. Okay. So in this place, picture about 1963.

That's about the equivalent here. You know what I mean? Now, DePoy, at this point, it's an unincorporated community. It is... And I'll describe it from this article here. Sitting just down the gravel. road from Greenville. Oh, boy.

So I mean, there's, you got to take a gravel road. It's so small that it has, you know, not a lot. It has no city government, no, you know, welcome sign, no mayor, none of that shit here. It's just basically a bunch of some mobile homes, a railroad bed running through the woods and a restaurant called John and Soos. That's the town. Wow. That's the entire town.

Some trailers, the tracks that used to be more active and a restaurant. of John and Sue. Now, there's a road here called Wimberly Lane. Not really a road. It's gravel, about an eighth of a mile long gravel path, essentially. And it's named for a family that's lived there for two generations. They're the only people that live on this gravel path. Okay.

Is this family? And that's, it's called Wimberley Lane, yes. And there are three households that we'll talk about here. All right. Now, the matriarch and patriarch here are Del and Eugene Wimberley. They have a small house where they live. Their house is actually like attached to the ground and everything. They raised two daughters there, Beverly and Gene.

And we're going to have to remember all these names here. Now, Beverly married, this will be easy to remember, married a guy named Wedding. So that's easy. We know she got married. Yeah, she married Todd Wedding. Oh, last name got it. Last name, yeah. Beverly Marries, so she's now Beverly Wedding.

Todd is a newspaper guy. Oh. Okay. Not he's like an editor for the local newspaper. Yeah. Delivers newspapers. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

Not he's a... He's a 12-year-old as a artist. Yeah, he's not a journalist or anything. Jimmy went, oh, look at that. He's just like, no, no, no, no, hold on a minute. No, no, no, no. You back it off. He's got a sunroof that he cut in the top of his car.

Of his Jeep. Hucks paper. Yeah. Yeah, he takes the teats off. Yeah, he just throws him out. So, the. They get married. Then Gene marries Johnny Vincent, who works for a local food distributor.

So we got, they're both married off. Gene and Johnny and Beverly and Todd. Okay. Both daughters each had a son. All right. Now, Beverly had a son named Terry, and Gene and Johnny Vincent had a son named Joey. Okay. Okay.

Now. Gene and Johnny got a son named Joey. Gene and Johnny got Joey. and Beverly and Todd have Terry. Okay. Now, by the late 90s, these are grown men, the sons, they've grown into grown men. They have their own houses on the same gravel path.

Yep. So everybody, yeah, you just put another trailer down at the end, I think, is a lot of the kind of family roads. It's kind of what they do. They had another, yeah, a mobile home, or they'll build a small house or whatever. Now, Adele, the matriarch here, described this. She said it was a village raising all the children, and everybody relied on each other,

trusted each other a lot with that. Terry, a little bit younger, she's watching a video of the kids. And she said, Terry doesn't look like he quite knows what to do. He looks like he's trying to find somebody to help him figure out what to do all the time. Oh, he's a little lost. A little lost. And so as of 1999, living on Wimberley here, we have Beverly Wedding, who is, like we said, Edel and Eugene's daughter.

Manville Todd wedding. His name's Manville Wedding. That's... What the fuck? Todd. That's much easier to deal with. Now, Beverly's 56 years old in 1999. So imagine Adela and Eugene.

They're like 112. Got to be. Very old. Maryville or Manville wedding here is 59, Todd. And then Terry wedding, their son, is 27 at this point. Yeah. Okay. So they all live.

live in the same house here. Now, Beverly here, she has worked for 15 years as a district circulation manager for the Evansville Courier, which is, she's the manager of the distribution of the papers. She tells you which houses to throw a paper at. I feel like that's what that is. Tells us who's paid up so that they can get a paper. Exactly. She was reportedly at this point trying to retire, but the paper wouldn't let her retire, which I don't understand. Wouldn't let you. Here's what you do. You don't go there anymore, and now you're retired.

I don't know what. No one can force you not to retire. You're going to have to train your replacement, and then you can go. Yeah, she's not playing for the Lakers. It's not like she's under contract or something, and she's got to, you know, you got two more years on your deal, pal. You know, we gave you a signing bonus. Yeah, we're taking a salary cap hit this year. You're sticking around.

Yeah, the cap hits huge this year. You've got to help us out here. Now, Adele said here, she said, Beverly was a really likable person, a lovable person, never had a care in the world. She wanted to retire last year, but they wouldn't let her. I said, Beverly, don't be such a good hand and maybe they'll get rid of you. Stop being so good at your job. And then I'll find somebody else. Stop performing.

Oh, I can't retire. Okay. Oh, I made a few mistakes this week. Sorry about that. How about now? Yeah. Quiet strategy. Yeah.

Exactly. Just Kentucky style in a long time ago. Stop showing up. Yeah, that's it. I did that. I've done that many times. Just, hey, guess what? I guess I don't work here anymore. Didn't have to formally put any paperwork in.

So she is a, the family goofball is how her family describes her in a good way. She likes to, you know, sing Christmas songs in a funny way and shit like that and around Christmas and everything like that. Also very sentimental. She kept Terry's very, his first stuff. animal that she gave to him when he was a baby. She kept that in her bedroom. He's 27 now. That's very sentimental.

She's got his teddy. Yeah. Now, she has been married to Todd for about 40 years. And he helped Beverly deliver the Sunday edition of the Evansville Courier. He's described as quiet and honorable. His older sister said, quote, Todd was my younger brother. There was only two of us. Everybody liked my brother.

He's friendly. He's honorable and just a very fine man. Honorable. Honorable. Very honorable. Yeah, that paper is square on your porch every morning. He's honorable man. He's 59, so they've been married. 40 years.

It's it. Yeah, they got married 18, 19 years old. And that's it. Stuck together. And from what I understand, everybody likes Todd. Great guy. He's honorable, James. Honorable man.

What do you want? June 15, 1999, Beverly called her younger sister's daughter. her. Okay. All right. So her niece, that would be. Her niece, Amy, and tears asking for a ride to the courthouse. Yeah. Okay. Now, Beverly had decided, Amy, by the way, is Joey's wife. Yeah.

Jean and Johnny's son, Joey's wife. Okay. So there you go. So her niece-in-law, I guess, would be the best to say here. And asking for a ride to the courthouse. Because Beverly and Todd decided they had to take out a, quote, mental health warrant on their own son, Terry. Basically, they called for some help. Got to come pick him up in an ambulance and take him somewhere, basically. That's what they call that, huh? I guess.

I never heard of a mental health warrant before. I've never heard of that either. But, you know, I guess, I mean, I get what they're getting at, though. Yeah, they need help. He's not doing well. Terry is born about 1971. He's the only, or 72, I mean. He's the only child of Todd and Beverly.

graduated high school at Madisonville North Hopkins High School and went to also Life Christian Academy in Madisonville. So by 1990, he's 27. He is described as this. He's a big guy. Oh. But relatives describe him having a very high-pitched voice. Oh, really? I love those guys.

And they said basically his family said it was a feminine voice. He had a very feminine voice. And it doesn't match. It's Eric from the Howard Stern show. It's weird. It's strange. It doesn't match his frame at all. It's just one of those things.

He's like Mike Tyson you look at. You're like, oh, my God, he's a scariest man ever. And you're like, oh, my God, he talks like someone's little sister, whose teeth haven't come in yet. This is a little lady. He also took a lot of karate, big into karate. His uncle said this, quote, he had kind of a feminine type of voice. He was a big, big guy, well built, and his voice certainly didn't fit his size. and I'm almost positive that's gotten him into trouble.

He probably was bullied. Terry took karate, martial arts, probably for self-defense. I guess he got very good at it. Somebody would say it didn't. Somebody would say they didn't like the tone of his voice or something, and they would be sorry to say that later. Oh. So, yeah, if you made fun of his voice,

which probably was made fun of all through school. It's like calling Marty McFly a chicken. He's just not having it. Now it's fighting words. That's the one, yeah. His family described him as, quote, almost like an incredible Hulk. His other uncle said they were very muscular. I don't know, they, it's just him.

They were very muscular. Well, I guess he could, he's very ahead of his time, I guess, this guy in Kentucky in 1998. So 40 years. He's like, listen, I don't want to, you know. He said, they were very muscular. He sure was lifted weights, but he sure was built, almost like an incredible. Hulk. He's got some priors.

Fourth degree assault charge in 1993, which was dismissed. Got cited for no insurance in 1996, but that... Fourth degree. Thinking about it? Fourth degree, yeah, I think it's, you go, you consider that. Person didn't like your breath, I think, is how it works there. Oh, what'd you have for lunch? Jesus.

That's assault. That's bad. Also, a guilty plea to improperly displaying registration tags in 1996. where he had the, I mean, he was really hit hard by the courts with a $67.50 fine. So he's that small dumb shit that really maybe got in a fight in a bar, you know, drove around with no insurance when he was in his early 20s. Who cares? He's a deer and turkey hunter. And he also, I don't know how he did this in the middle of nowhere, but he sold knickknacks out of his parents' house.

I don't know how you do that pre-Etsy like in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. No one's driving by. It's a dead end gravel road. I guess that's theft in it because you don't have knickknacks. It's your mom's shit. He like makes shit, I guess. Really?

Yeah, like it goes to junkyards. He does all sorts of weird shit. He had at least one time we know he had a girlfriend at one point. So he's not a complete social, you know, pariah or whatever. Yeah, he actually had somebody be able to be goodly enough to have sex with him. So that's nice. By 1998, they're sorting out Terry's problems. They're figuring out that he's got some issues.

Yeah. And doctors diagnose him with bipolar disorder. Oh, which is tough. Okay. And that makes more sense to everybody now because he has some swings and, you know, he's happy for three days. He's depressed. He's, you know, he's got the typical kind of manic thing going on here. His mother, I guess, here, came home crying, Beverly and told the news to a relative.

One of the family members said, Beverly came to my house, tears streaming down her face. And Beverly said, he has a chemical imbalance of the brain. Oh. Which makes it sound even worse. That sounds terrible. And that's, well, I mean, she probably said, what is that? And the doctor said it's a chemical imbalance of your brain. And then she just took that.

And that makes sense, you know. So Terry was prescribed lithium for his bipolar disorder. And that was a, that's kind of the, that's, usually they'd hit you. that when it was bad because lithium is strong that's an extreme one that's that's really strong well also in 98 when you got diagnosed that's when the new there's a lot of new drugs coming out at that point that treated this and stuff like that but lithium was still i don't know if that got to kentucky yet you know what i mean got to the hills yeah the prozax and such i'm not sure um so they still use it as a mood stabilizer yeah yeah it's still in use it's a very common thing it's just it's a stronger

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Now back to the show. Yeah. But people don't like it because it makes them style. They don't feel like themselves is what they always say. And generally, they don't get the highs of the mania and that's what they enjoy. That's the problem. And that's why a lot of bipolar people, known a lot of bipolar people and read a lot about this. A lot of bipolar people stop taking their medication because they miss the highs.

They enjoy it? Being medic is fucking great. It's great. Spike? In your brain, it feels great. Things you're doing aren't perfect, but you feel great. You're up for days. You're feeling good.

You feel like you're accomplishing things. Your brain's, you know, snapping. And then you take this and everything slows down and you don't feel like yourself. And you want that high of the mania again. That's why a lot of bipolar people will stop taking medications to get the manias back. They like the manic periods of it, you know, which I guess makes sense. They feel like everything's clicking for them in there. I don't know.

I don't know that I have that. I know that I don't have that. No, you're unipolar. You're just depressed. Yeah, I got a baseline of bottom. Yeah, you're unipolar. But the medications that I was prescribed just numb and you feel nothing. It's so awful.

I'm incapable of being like that. One thing bipolar people have is they feel things. They feel up, they feel down, and just go from that to feeling is hard for people sometimes. Yeah. To have that just heart chart baseline is that's not fun. Yeah. It's tough. Makes sense. And when you're manic, you feel invincible. So, I mean, it's like, we feel good.

Now, by Christmas, 1998, he's on his medication and things are looking, it looks like a different person now. Now that his brain is slowed down and can process and everything, things are working. It's what's working how it's supposed to for him. Yeah. Then by early to mid-June, 99, nobody knows why. stop taking his medication. Couldn't do it anymore. And a lot of people also, if they feel good, they'll go, well, I don't need it anymore.

Because I feel good now. They don't realize that that's the reason they feel good. So it's tough. You see the force beyond the trees thing. Exactly. So Terry, he has a favorite cousin, and that's Joey. That is Gene and Johnny's kid. His kid, yeah.

Joey Vincent. He's born September 30th, 1969. He's 29 years old in June of 19. And he's got a wife and he's doing great. He's got a wife named Amy. She's 22. And, yeah. So he's 29, 22.

They live about 100 yards across the yard from the weddings. Okay. So they're there. They have a gray mobile home where Joey lives with Amy and they have a little baby who is one to two years old, little toddler named Brooklyn. So he's got to look at them and be like, what the fuck? Why can't I get it together? Yeah, Joey's only two years older than me. me, but yet he has a wife and a kid in his own place, and I live with my parents and don't have

anything. And that's, yeah, you do get jealous of same age cousins sometimes, I would think, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, see it, yeah, for sure. I've, I've, I've seen it happen. I'm the oldest cousin, so I don't have anybody to gauge mine against it. Yeah. The next one is like 10 years younger than me. So fucking, I don't know what they're doing. Yeah, I don't know. We tend to root for each other. My cousin is eight years older than me, and he works for us.

And he's happy as can be and couldn't be more thrilled for anything that happens with us. You know what I mean? I'm going 10 years younger than me, and I'm just going, you're going to get divorced any day now. You're just thrusting your shit upon him. I like that. Yeah, good luck, fucker. That's the voice in his head. That's great.

So Joey and Terry, they're like best friend cousins growing up. You have the cousin that you're closest to and that's them. There's home videos of those two from toddlers to tricycles to always together, always hanging out. Now Joey here, apparently Joey is a very, as a teen, he really hit his stride. He was very confident and a lot of friends, had girlfriends. He went to four high school proms. God damn, Joe. Yeah, Joey was a ladies man.

He played basketball at Graham High School, so he was an athlete. He had kind of all the stuff Terry didn't have, basically. Right. So it's one of those things. That was Joey's Terry's cool cousin. Right. Now, 1999, by that time, Joey had been on the Greenville Police Department for eight years. And he's a cop.

He started in 91. A fellow officer said, Joey and I were at one of our softball games when he And Joey explained to me that he had applied for the Greenville Police Department. And, you know, I wasn't surprised because I knew Joey had the personality and the love for his community and the love for the people. All right. And small town police force, too, is a different kind of thing. You're mainly talking to people in that. You know what I mean?

It's not a, you know, there's not so much crime that you're just trying to catalog. It's mainly just, oh, they're fighting again. Let's make sure they don't hit each other. You know, it's kind of more of that thing when it's only 4,500 people. and give Peter ride to his mom's house. Yep. I assume you're probably spending a lot of your times at the same trailers. You know what I mean?

Oh, them again. Okay. He's also a pastor or the pastor of the New Cypress Baptist Church in the community of Graham nearby. Awfully young fella. Yeah. He wanted to train as a chaplain as well. And a Greenville City Council member said he's laid back an easy going and just

I just gone back to full-time work from the baby being born and all that. He was very good at his job. We never had minutes trouble with him. How about it? Joey's a good guy. A friend tells a story of asking Joey to officiate his wedding as well. After me and my wife became engaged, I asked Joey if he would care to officiate the wedding. At the time, he was joking about it, but he told me he said it would be an honor for him to do it.

Did an exceptional job. I believe it. Yeah, why not? Everybody likes him, basically, in the whole community. Yeah, he's good at everything. Ever since he was a kid. He actually, as we'll talk about it, he has to take Terry into custody at one point. And then cries his eyes out afterwards because he didn't want to do that.

And then he told his partner, he'd do it again, though, because it was the right thing to do. That's keeping the community safe. That's the honorable thing to do. The type of guy he is. He's an honorable man, Jimmy. Yep, that's right. He met his wife, Amy. This is a little odd here.

A fellow officer came to the house one, or Joey said, this is a fellow officer talking. Joey came to the house one day and he said, and I quote, I think I found the one. And I said, Joey, what are you talking about? And he said, I'm in love. I found the person I'm going to marry. Oh, no. Don't say it. Okay.

Well, Amy Hambrick, as was her maiden name here. They met in 1995. So four years earlier when she was 18 and he was 23. He was on duty and he was called to break up a party at the hill, which is a hill in DePoy where everybody, the kids go to drink. It's a high school kids, yeah. Underage drinking. Well, just underage drinking. That's where they go.

And that's where Amy was. That's how he met her. He was called to break up a party. And he didn't arrest her or write her a ticket. He let her off with a warning. And then a couple weeks later, he asked her out, which seems not completely honorable. If you look at it like... A little unethical, right?

Put it this way. If they don't get married and live happily ever after, you go, oh, that's not great. But if they get married and they live happily ever after, then it's fine, I guess, right? I don't know. I mean, then it's okay. It's not like predatory because she's reciprocating and they have a baby. It's fine. I guess it's still weird.

Did take two years for him to make her pregnant, which is good. Well, I take that back. He took her two years to have the baby. They may... I don't know about it. They met in 95 and they had a baby in 98. 97, right? It's two years old.

Probably pregnant in 98, probably pregnant in 97. So two years. I think they got married 96. So they got married in August of 96 as a matter of fact. So they only knew each other for a year. Terry did not attend the wedding. Oh. No one really understood what he just had.

Basically, they kind of said he had social anxiety, but there's something there. One of the relatives said, I do know that a lot of times socially, Terry had more anxieties and he definitely preferred to be by himself or around smaller groups of people, probably just with his mom and dad. Yeah. He's a little more, you know, not as outgoing as Joey here. Now, after the wedding, Joey and Amy decided to live on Adela Eugene's land on Wimberley Lane because Joey wanted to be close to the family. So they put a mobile home in there directly across the road from Beverly and Todd and Terry. And there they are. So 1997 in July is when Brooklyn is born.

So they got pregnant. Right now. Two months after they got married. They walked down the aisle and said, let's start trying. Yeah. And there they are. So good for them. They had the daughter Brooklyn and Beverly and Todd are always babysitting her and they love her and, you know, always playing.

with her and all that kind of thing. June of 1999, Amy is pregnant with their second child. She's four months pregnant. Going again, yeah. Going again. Now, Amy has a job, too. She's a waitress at John and Sue's restaurant. Restaurant, yeah.

These people are deploy through and through. They are the town. So she's a waitress there and very popular. Everybody knows her because she's the waitress and the only diner and only restaurant in town. Her coworker said she's always joking and loving on everybody. and that kind of thing. They said the owner of John and Suez

said that Amy was the type of person that on a Friday night shift, she'd give half of her $20 and tips to fundraiser collecting for cancer research. She'd take $10 home tonight. Yeah, and that's all she'd take home because she was just nice like that. So Terry, on the other hand,

talked about Joey. Joey's thriving. Wife, baby, another kid on the way, job, church. He's got all sorts of things. Terry, his uncle said, is a little bit of a loner. And when asked

what Terry wanted to be when he grew up, his uncle said, I'm not aware that Terry really wanted to do anything. I don't think Terry wanted to grow up.

That's what it is. He's still living at home. Mom and dad are providing for him. And one relative said, I thought it was strange that he was still at home at his age.

I don't know if Beverly and Todd ever encouraged Terry to get out on his own or not. Yeah. I don't think he's capable of it because I think he's too unstable.

I think they want to keep an eye on to make sure he takes his medication and things like that. I thought it was odd. Mind your own fucking business. Yeah. Now, Joey started to get mad at Terry for how Terry treated his parents. Oh. Started to get pissed off that he was mean to his aunt and uncle here.

You know, Joey's aunt and uncle. One of the relatives said, Joey would get a little upset at the way Terry would treat his mother and father, Beverly and Todd. Terry wasn't showing them any respect. He was unpredictable. His behavior was erratic and he could go from almost hot to cold, just like in the snap of a finger. Yeah. And Terry, you don't own this place. No.

And he's off his medication. Yeah. That's what happens. So the, and before they knew he was bipolar, they just called him weird all the time. They're just like, Terry's a fucking weirdo. Like, well, he's got some mental illness is the problem. He's got an issue. Tuesday, June 15th, 1999.

Beverly wedding picks up the phone and calls Amy at home. Okay. Beverly is terrified. That's the problem. Terry's been off his. meds for over two weeks, and he's starting to really be wacky here. That's when Beverly said she needs a ride to the courthouse, and Amy said, okay, and took her to the courthouse. Now, this is, she went to the courthouse to take out a 72-hour mental health warrant,

known in Kentucky as an emergency protection slash involuntary admission order against her own son. Wow. An officer involved said for Beverly and Todd to see the need to have a mental health warrant signed against Terry, I mean, I knew it had to be bad for them to go that far. They saw that there. They saw that there was a threat to himself or somebody else. So the warrant gets signed by a judge. Now it has to be served by a member of law enforcement. Oh, it's an actual, it's like a welfare check with a, with a place to go.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a 50-150. Exactly. So Joey says he'd do it because he knows him. And he doesn't want Terry to get hurt. He doesn't want anything to go down. His cousin's going to serve it?

Yeah, which makes sense for Joey because he's thinking this is the right thing to do because I don't want him freaking out and having officers having to beat him up or anything like that. Because he's a big guy too. And he knows karate and all this shit. They might have to shoot him. He's like, if I go over there, he'll come with me, you know? Is there a way he can do this plain clothes so that it just feels like a family's taking him for a ride somewhere?

I mean, I'm sure he can. I'm sure he doesn't have to go over there and introduce himself as Officer Vincent. I'm sure he can say, hey, Terry. So Joey's shift partner said, quote, I enjoy, and then he stops. Joey called me right at time for him to come to work and said that Beverly and Todd had signed a mental health warrant against Terry and that he was going to help serve it. He felt like things would go smoother if he was in there. Because he can make, you know, contact.

He's his family. So he does. He thinks it'll help diffuse the situation. So he goes with a deputy from the Mullenberg County Sheriff's Office. They knock on the door. They tell Terry has to come with them. The sheriff, Jerry Mayhew, said there was a small altercation. He resisted right away.

But we have this with the mentally ill all the time. It's common, quite common. So even with his cousin there. Resisted. Yeah, Joey needed to physically restrain him and put him in handcuffs. He wouldn't come just voluntarily. He was going to just have him come with him,

but they had to actually cuff him down and everything. Terry threatens Joey during the arrest, and, you know, he's freaking out. They said threats, the sheriff said, during a mental health pickup, threats are the routine. They're not together. So they're just throwing out things. You know what I mean?

So they said that basically, Joey had to chase Terry down. Terry tried to run. you know, Joey chased him down, helped cuff him and all that kind of shit. And Joey called his officer friend

back that night and said that the guy said he called me back and he said it got quite physical how Terry didn't want to go but he needed it. Now Adele, Grandma here,

she said that I do know, oh, this is from somebody else talking about Adele. I do know that Adele and Joey's grandmother told me that he just stood in the yard and bawled. meaning Joey did. Like he just sobbed because he had to do that.

So that's tough. Then they drove him to... Is it tell the grandfather? I guess, yeah. So they then drive him to the Western State Hospital in Hopkinsville. He's at the hospital from June 15th to June 23rd. Dang. Now, he's, you can only hold him for 72 hours.

After 72 hours, the patient is entitled to a hearing to determine whether they should be held longer. Now, Terry was completely pissed off the entire time he was in there, mad at his parents. He refused to see anybody. His family tried to see him. He wouldn't see anybody. Grandma Adele said Terry was angry all the time. He was up there at Western State and he didn't want to see any of the family. Yeah.

So he gets a hearing. Adele doesn't attend. Now, the hospital determines that he's no longer, no longer meets the legal threshold of imminent danger to himself or others. Okay. So they had to let him go. So they let him go after a week there. So now Wednesday, June 23rd, 1999, Terry's brought home to his parents' house,

where he's pissed off at. Right. And Joey's across the street and he's not real thrilled with him either. Sure. So Joey shows up at work June 24th and his shift partner asks him how it went, basically. You know, Terry coming home and everything. He said, I asked him, I said, well, do you think he's, made any progress and Joey's exact words was he seems a little bit frustrated. I said, how do you

feel knowing that you were a part of serving this warrant? And he said, I'd do it again. But then he said, but Amy's concerned. She was scared that something was going to happen. She's scared to Terry. So Amy's like, well, I don't want to be home and he's across the street and he's mad at us and all that. So that day, the 24th of June, Amy is worried. She shows up unannounced at a friend's house. and sits down. And her friend said, I was at my house and Amy came in that night. She said,

I want to come see you because I'm not going to live much longer. She said, we're not going to live much longer. And this is probably going to be the last time I see you. And I just want to sit here and have some coffee and tell you I love you.

What's that about? That is crazy. I'd be, I'd be like, I was going to say, do you have postpartum or something? Like this, she seems like she needs a hold. Let's go to a courthouse and get that warrant. That sounds sad.

Like, are you going to hurt yourself or other? Someone else is going to hurt you. They said she never said specifically her concerns regarding Terry, but Amy was scared to be by herself. She felt like somebody was watching her. And that was Amy's conversation. That was why she came to see me. She felt like she was being watched and she was just uncomfortable. Now, around that same time, Amy's telling coworkers at the restaurant that she's afraid of Terry because Terry's mad at Joey, basically.

And he's right across the street. The owner of the restaurant said, though, that he and Joey had discussed the situation, and Joey didn't think there was any imminent danger. You know, he just thought she was, you know, there's a baby around. She gets scared and, you know, go around a nest and see how the mother animal acts when you go near their babies. They don't like it. So, understandable. Not very chill.

They get a little uptight about it. So in late June, like we said, he's off his meds. He got out of the place and he's off his meds, and it's not great. now it's bad stuff he said that basically he had the delusional belief that he was telling people that we're not family like he was he had this belief that like these weren't his fan this wasn't his family anymore and like they've been replaced by pod people or some shit like he was spinning out is what it was really having a tough time here basically like this is like a psychotic mania like he's just out of it so sunday june 27th 1990s at 6.15 a.m.

Okay. Joey, officer, officer pastor, Joe here. He is taking Brooklyn to the hospital. Okay. She's been sick all night. So they're taking her to the hospital here. He's carrying the kid out to the family car so Amy can drive her to the emergency room because he has to work. So Amy's going to drive her to the emergency room and he's going to then go to work, I believe. She's been sick all night, the baby. Now, they said, you know, they should be home by lunch. You know, it won't be that busy at the ER.

It's fine. It's a Thursday morning. And there you go. Now, Terry is across the street. And Joey walks out the front door of his trailer. Terry here is sitting in his kitchen window about 100 yards away watching. Okay. And he's watching for Joey.

He's pissed off for Joey. And he has a high power. deer hunting rifle in his hand. Yeah. And he's very... And he's very good at shoot. Oh. One thing, he's a good...

He's a hunter. That's what he does. Tarkies and shit, doesn't he? Yeah. Turkeys and deer. Yeah. So when Joey comes out from 100 yards away,

Joey shoots Terry shoots Joey through the window. Wow. Shoots him and drops him. Hit him. Hits him. Joey collapses next to the car. Oh, fuck. Amy comes running out of the house

toward the car when she hears this and sees this and jumps into the car and we'll talk about this here. A 911 call comes in at this point. It's been a, it's pretty quiet this day. It's a summer day and, you know, not a, not a busy day here.

What is it, a Sunday? I believe it's a Sunday today. So it's easy day. Mainly like welfare checks and shit like that. they're getting calls for, but they get a call saying there's shots fired on Wimberley Lane. So Derek Hembrick here is Amy's brother. He was staying overnight with Joey and Amy that night because Brooklyn was sick and they needed help. He heard the gunshots, looked outside, saw Terry and saw he had a big long gun and he was walking toward them after he heard the shot. So he called 911.

Now the police arrive and the state. Troopers, and they cut off the lane, they converge on it, close it down. And the chiefs, or assistant chiefs said, I saw Joey lying between the door and the car with the car door forward, and I ran to Joey to check a pulse on him and didn't find one. I knew in my heart he was gone. He said, then I got inside the car and checked on Amy. She was leaning across her arm was leaned on the console, kind of like she was trying to start to be, but she didn't.

have a pulse either. No. Been shot either. Now, the main question is, what do you think? What do you mean? What do I think? Where's the baby? Yeah, and that.

I was going to say where the fuck is Terry, too. They're looking to, you know, victims here. Where's the one-year-old? She's not in the car. No. So Derek, the brother, runs out and tells the cops, he's got her. Terry came over. He took the baby?

Shot Amy in the car and then took the fucking baby. and took off. He's gone with the baby. Oh my God. So he said he shocked Joey through the window and then he walked to the car and shot Amy. Then he took Brooklyn. Then he went back to the house. Oh, Jesus. Just picked her up and fucking walked away. So this is terrifying. They're like, holy fuck. This is crazy. They killed a cop, his wife, and then stole the baby. This is insane. And her unborn.

Well, yeah, the unborn child too. But I'm more worried about the fucking. Yeah, the one that's alive and actually a human person at this point. Yeah. Has a name. has a name and a social security number. Yeah. Get me some paperwork on that. Yeah. We'll worry about that one later. But this one is, you know, it's alive and missing at this point, this poor child.

So at this point, they barricaded everything. They know where he is. He's in his house. And he has possession of a one-year-old. And they don't know if the one-year-old's okay. So the state police start arriving in bunches here. I mean, this is a big deal. Huge big deal.

They said that, they said, quote, probably one of the scariest parts of my life was there wasn't a whole lot of cover between where me and the officers, other officers were, and the house. We didn't know which window he'd shot Joey through, so we ended up taking cover until the state police got there. Yeah, we're just sitting out here and we have no idea what advantage he has on us. Or turkeys, for this matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of them said they had guns drawn because we didn't know exactly what kind of weapons Terry had. So yes, they were prepared if he decided to shoot at them to shoot back. Then one said I was concerned that Terry might try to use Brooklyn as a hostage.

I mean, he had just killed her parents and taken her in the house with him. And we have no idea what he will or won't do at that point. What the fuck other reason would he have to have her? It's crazy. So it's 7.20 in the morning this is going on. At one point, not very long after this, I mean, under an hour, Terry just comes out. He comes out of the house and he's holding Brooklyn. Okay.

Holding the baby. They don't tell him. The officers just everybody pauses because he's got a baby. So they're like, oh shit, you can do anything at this point. So until they get him to put the kid down, they're not going to arrest it, rush him or do anything. Look, one cop said, I didn't tell him that he was going to be arrested. I just told him that we needed to talk to him. And so he walked out the front door and stands there for a second with the baby and then just puts the baby down.

and surrenders without any resistance, but he does ask for a cigarette. Yeah. So I'd like a cigarette, please. I would also, yeah. Turns out, the cop said, biggest concern when he came out of the house is that Brooklyn was in the line of fire.

When he came out, he actually placed Brooklyn down and he surrendered. I went straight for Brooklyn. I wrapped her up in a raincoat and actually took her to the ambulance and just the sense of relief to see that she was okay. And for a brief moment,

then reality hit you again. Turns out he gave the baby snacks, gave her some ice cream and a banana. He took her in the house, just started babysitting. Yeah. And put the cartoons on and put a banana and here's a banana and some ice cream. Like, just like nothing happened. It was weird as shit. They said then the chief, when he gets inside, Chief Darren Harvey of Greenville, said when we moved the portable fireplace,

that's where the weapons were. and we found the combat rounds were set up in every room. He had it set up to... He was ready to use this as... Yeah. He was going to go down. This was going to be his alamo. Yeah.

Basically it. They said combat rounds are where you set up two bullets or ammo side by side where you can pick them up and load them quickly and then you have them in every room so you don't ever run out. You can fire, walk by, grab it and put that in. He was prepared for basically war. with a with a bolt action I guess so if you have cover

and you're a good shot yeah and why not so the other question is where the fuck are Todd and Beverly yeah where are they his parents

yeah they enter the house they don't find Todd they don't find Beverly they find all these you know weapons and they find ammo positioned everywhere and the vehicle

which is a Dodge Intrepid oh they find that outside it has a wet interior Like someone tried to hose out the interior of the car. It's all wet. So that's very strange. And the phone at the parents' house kept ringing while they're processing all this. So the officer who was answering the phone said it was crazy because they have two dead people, including a cop and a pregnant woman.

They have a cop and a pregnant woman, a baby that was just held hostage. This guy who was planning a shootout with the cops. And the phone is ringing every five minutes because. because people are pissed off their paper hasn't come this morning. So they're calling Beverly to bitch about it. Don't worry. Tomorrow's paper will have the reason why. You're going to find out a whole lot tomorrow.

Don't you worry about that shit. Because they delivered the paper early in the morning. It's Sunday. You don't get your Sunday paper. You're pissed. Oh, the fat one, yeah. Yeah, the people were calling and saying they hadn't gotten it yet. So they were like, where the fuck are Beverly and Todd?

Yeah. They go 5 a.m. to do this. They've been doing it for 15 years. And they said at that. point, we realized we now had two missing people also. Right. Because there are nowhere to be found. So they sit Todd down at 11 o'clock in the morning for about 15 to 20 minutes.

Yeah. He does not sign the waiver relinquishing his rights, but he does agree to talk without a lawyer, but he won't sign anything. Okay. It was at that point that he admitted to everything. He'd admitted to the killings. He said, yeah, I shot my cousin. I shot Amy.

Can we use that? The detect, yeah, if you don't, you can't force people to sign people. things. But if they physically waived and you record it, yeah, if we read it to you and you did it, I mean, there's workarounds there, especially in rural Kentucky in 1999. It might be a little more, you know, precise now. Do you have to establish that they know it or that they heard it? Yeah, exactly. That they understand and they were told is essentially all it is. Now, the police officer said he was cooperative. He was not upset. Okay. So he was very kind of matter of fact. then the second interrogation, they talked to him more at about 4.30, and he detailed the sequence of how everything happened.

And so the cop says, quote, he went through how he killed his mom and dad, and then how he killed the Vincent's. Uh-oh. Yeah. They said, when we talked about his mother, his voice would break and he cried on and off. Oh, he felt bad about that one. Yeah. They said, the rights thing, by the way, they said, first of all, you understand. understand what your rights are and you're in agreement with, you still talk to me, right?

And he said, yes. And they said, Terry, we need to find your mom and dad. They said, he didn't say much about that in the beginning. And I said, Terry, where's your mom and dad? So he begins to tell me that his mom and dad, they were at what he called a wildlife refuge. Okay. And they're not. A place where he hunts and he left him out there.

And they're not just like taking in the animals and taking pictures and shit. They're there. They're not looking at whatever. foul is there this year. No, no. They're like, oh, the new turkey babies. They're so cute. He had beat his father with a baseball bat and he had shot his mother in the head with a

10 gauge while she was sitting in the truck. That's why he feels bad. That's why he feels bad. And then he shot Joey because he said, fuck it, if I already killed them. Yeah. Now I'm going to kill Joey because I'm pissed off at him. And fucking Amy tried to get in the car to drive away and he shot her in the goddamn car.

That's crazy. That's fucking ridiculous. A trooper in the room steps out of the room to dispatch a search team to the wetland area that they described. And 15 feet off the road in standing water, a state trooper finds Beverly Wedding's body.

Oh, boy. Twelve feet from her is Todd as well. They're both obviously pronounced dead at the scene. Terry just talks about it with a, they said, a surreal calm, just completely calm. The cop said,

he told me that he took his father out to the cemetery. He said that I beat him with the baseball bat. And he had asked his mom, he asked his dad to take him out to the cemetery to see his grandmother or something. He wanted to go see family. So Todd said, all right, fine. God damn, I'll take you out to the fucking cemetery. And he's just taking him out there for this. Yeah. Then they said, how many times did you hit him with the bat? And they said, so after you put your dad in the cemetery, did you go home and get your mother then? And he said, yes. Wow. And they said, you were you in the truck when you shot your mom? And he said, quote, they said, you know, she never saw what you were going to do when he said, no.

So, Terry had said, quote, Joey first. Now I was watching for him. That's when I put it on. And I sat there. And she said, she was sorry. She said, don't you hear me? And I put Brooklyn behind the car and I shot her twice. So Amy was in the car saying, whatever it is, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

and he said he calmly went and put Brooklyn behind the car, came back and shot her, which is cold blood of his fuck. Jesus Christ. When they said, were you angry that Joey helped? Were you mad at Joey? And he said, they said,

no. No. He said he would get, at one point he said he would get very angry during the interview and say, no, that's not the reason. That's not the reason. Because they kept saying because Joey took you in

and he kept saying, no, like you're not listening to me. So what's the reason? They don't know. That's the thing. In his mind, who the fuck knows? I guess it makes no sense. Maybe he's jealous.

I don't know. In his mind, he's articulated what the reason is, but nobody can gather what the fuck he's saying. But the way they look at it is all these are the four people who were involved in committing him last time. It was Todd helped Joey chase Terry down. Oh. Beverly was the one who called and Amy was the one who drove. her to the courthouse. Those four people are the cabal against him, is the

way he's looking at it. So they said, Terry was very angry that he had to go to Western State. Joey was one of the officers who had chased him down because he ran and his father helped chase him down. Amy and the mom went to the county's attorney's office to get the warrant. So he was upset with the whole bunch.

It was just a big revenge plot, essentially, here. So they said that that's, by the way, he didn't know Amy was pregnant either. They hadn't even told him. They hadn't told them people yet about it. So it was still, I think, maybe three months.

So they hadn't told anybody yet. So he didn't know. So they didn't find out until they did the autopsy, essentially. Wow. So apparently on Saturday, June 26th, Terry had approached his father and said he wanted to drive over to a nearby cemetery to visit his grandmother's grave. So Todd agrees. They get out and go in there. Terry stayed home.

Terry had an aluminum baseball bat already put in the car ahead of time that Todd didn't know about. It's isolated. He attacked him with the bat. He then dumped Terry's body in the wetland. And, you know, that was it. He said he'd been hit.

Terry told us he hit his father with a baseball bat and he shot his mother in the head with the 10 gauge while she sat in the truck. Then he drove back to Wimberley Lane and got Beverly. He tells his mother that, he needs to come with him. That's basically said, you've got to come with me, you've got to come with me.

So they said that Beverly was already in her Dodge pickup when Terry approached. He shot his mother while she sat there and then took her to the preserve and threw her in the wetland and threw her in the water as well. And that was right. So, yeah, he drove at least one of the family vehicles to Dodge Intrepid back to the property and washed it out because he had shot his mother in there. He stole about $1,200 in cash from his mother's belonging inside the house, set up all these rounds throughout the house, and concealed firearms behind a portable fireplace, and stashed an additional weapon in the trunk of a geoprism parked at the house. They got a geo too. I bet you haven't heard of that in a while. In 97, that was a useful vehicle.

That was a very, yeah, just got a hatchback on that bad boy. So yeah, he said he just shot him through the parents' kitchen. And from his confession, he said, quote, I just, I sat there. This is about Amy. She said she was sorry. She was, I said, don't you hear me? And I put Brooklyn behind the car and I shot twice. So that's fucking rough.

He said, I waited for the cops. They broke me through. he said, I gave her a banana, I gave her some ice cream, she was crying. Now, years later, Brooklyn, who survived this, obviously, said, I think this blurry, like a dark hue over that day. While I don't remember, I was told that not only did he spare me in a sense, but he cared for me that day just like any family member would. Which is strange. You know what? He still had, like, love for this baby. they said that right now the cops said we're working on a motive we're trying to nail down anything that may be more obvious to those in the community so it just doesn't make sense he said joey's about as nice a person as you'd ever meet and he'd do anything for you so it doesn't make sense

um adele said this quote this is grandma i kind of feel hard towards terry and that's an awful thing for a grandmother to say we blame western state we don't understand We put him in there and then he came out and he did this. So we don't know. You know what I mean? They held all four funerals together on the same day. Yeah. All the police officers came and they had flags and all that stuff. It was a big thing.

This is very much similar to the XTel, Texas case we had a couple weeks ago, except a lot different. I liked it because it was a similar type of thing, but it could happen in a different way. This is really, really weird. one of the library employees said, I think everyone's just in shock. You hear something like this about such a good bunch of people and you just don't believe it.

You know deep down it's the truth, but your mind just won't let you believe it. And Adele said, I did go to the funeral and the visitation, but I didn't stay. I went home to keep Brooklyn because we kept Brooklyn while all this was going on

and I was sitting there rocking her. I watched her mom and dad passed by the house and hers. meaning so Terry's charged with four counts of murder yeah that's it

so four counts he's arraigned here and also on one count of theft because he stole $1,200. He pleads innocent and there's that now Beverly's younger sister and Joey's mother, Gene

here, Gene and Johnny they end up raising Brooklyn yeah by the way and basically they said they don't want the death penalty for Terry. They're like, we're going to put them in death penalty. And this is the quote, quote, nothing is going to bring them back no matter what they do.

What's the point? And I agree. So Terry wants a change of venue. He's like, oh my God, everyone in this town and everyone in this county knows about this shit. The judge denied the change of venue. All right. We going to keep it right here. Yeah.

Now, there's several, basically, during all this, once they decide that the trial is going to go forward in this county, Terry decides he wants a plea. Oh, he doesn't want to do that, huh? No. So they're going to have a plea. They have several mental health people look him over, and pretty much everybody said the same exact thing. Defense people, prosecution people. He's got bipolar.

He's had two prior involuntary hospitalizations. Oh. The defense one said he's not criminally responsible, but. As we know, it's a real thin line of what that is in court. So basically they all said, yeah, he's nuts, but, you know, he doesn't know where he is nuts type of thing. He doesn't not, not understand the, you know, consequences of his actions type of deal. But they all say bipolar one disorder, psychotic features. That's what they all get.

So he pleads guilty but mentally ill, which is distinct from not guilty by reason of insanity. Is it? Yeah, because this is a finding of guilt with full criminal liability plus a court determination that he's suffering a mental illness as well. Okay. So there you go. He pleads guilty, but mentally ill to four counts of murder. And the Commonwealth withdraws its death penalty notice. And basically, in 1999 in Kentucky, they said insanity defenses succeed at a national rate of well under 1%.

Yeah, you've got to be. which think about how many... You've got to be very wary of using that. Think about how many bat shit crazy people they are. It's way more than less than 1%. It's just people want vengeance and I get it, but, you know, it's also not really... Words have definitions and mentally ill. If they're mentally ill, they're mentally ill, so what are we talking about at the same time?

Mentally ill people also get a bad rap because there are lots of people that are just fine and they utilize that fucking defense because they just don't want the heart penalty. Oh, yeah. And that's what you got to... You got to parse out between what's what. And that's the problem. Yep. So basically the, here comes down to sentencing. You, sir, may fuck off life without parole on each of the four counts.

Oh, boy. And then they also add in the theft count, too. He's never getting out. Never getting out. No. Wow. After the hearing, one of the officials here said he's a very sad and emotional young man. He's lost so many members of his family that he's.

he loved. He sacrificed so many. I mean, he shot them all. Yeah. Now, his uncle, William Wedding, which is Todd's brother, said he doesn't buy it and he doesn't buy the defense that he killed him because of mental illness either. He says, that's just something for Terry to grab onto. He said that, and then this guy's wife, oh, he also said that Terry had threatened to, quote,

get him in March of 98. So he said, he threatened me too. Okay. And his wife said, quote, this is his aunt, quote, he's just mean. He had the best parents anyone could ask for. He's just mean, is what they said. Yeah, but then he also said, if my brother could speak from the grave, I'm sure he'd say Terry didn't mean it. Don't do nothing to him.

Yeah. So, yeah. You can't have both ways. No. Brooklyn said that, you know, she was very thankful that he didn't kill her. she watched old footage on a documentary and said that's always such a weird clip for me to watch because you want to look at them and go, oh yeah, that's just cousin Terry. But instead you look at it and almost feel sick to your stomach.

He goes for some appeals in effective assistance of counsel, not getting the appeal, the failure to appeal the venue denial, which they probably should have also. Some statutory shit, but it's affirmed. He's staying in there. and she said, this is Brooklyn saying, quote, I was born in July of 97 to two really excited parents. They were constantly doting over me. They were constantly playing with me.

I think surprising themselves with how much they could love a little human. Yeah. And she said this, if I could talk to Joey now, this is her father. I would say, I miss you. I hope I'm doing well. I hope I'm trying to help. And we're okay. And thanks for the memories.

So Terry here, incarcerated. Basically, yeah, they said he's been unstable. He's been stable and on medication since they arrested him. He's been fine. I'm not going to let him not take his shit. Yeah, but he's expressed remorse saying that once he got put on medication, he, quote, realized what he had done at that point. He was like, oh, fuck. They said Terry reportedly realized what he had done and immediately accepted responsibility.

The trailer's gone on Wimberley Lane, Joey and Amy's trailer. So everything else is still standing. It's crazy, man. Greenville Police Department had not had another officer killed in the line of duty since then. That's the first time. And he wasn't even in the line of duty. He was taking his kid to the hospital. So there was a documentary called A Wedding and Four Funerals, Investigation Discovery.

That was the, this was an investigation discovery episode of American Monster, titled A Wedding and Four Funerals here, which isn't a better. title. That's pretty good. So there you go. There is Greenville, DePoy, whatever, Kentucky. That shit is crazy. That's what I mean. And this is just these little things that can just pop up that you don't even know about and

in the middle of nowhere like that. And it's just scary shit. And yeah, it was similar, like I said, had a similar kind of thing to the Extel, Texas case. And I was like, man, that just interests me that similar but different. So if you go back and listen to that one. This is why you got to take care of your head. man this is crazy oh it's yeah I mean mental health is tough and and even if you are taking care

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