Smart Money Happy Hour with Rachel Cruze and George Kamel - Reacting to the Most Unhinged GoFundMe Campaigns

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:05 You've heard that it's better to give than to receive, but we might have some caveats today. We're talking about giving gone wild. Some of the wildest go-fund me campaigns. This creator said that he's broke and trying to have a lit summer. Get Brett to yoga teacher training. Hey guys, I'm Rachel Cruz. I'm George Camel. And this is Smart Money Happy Hour.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Oh, well, this is the show. We're two friends who happen to be money experts talk about what you're talking about. about everything from pop culture, current events, and money. And before we get to Giving Gone Wild, let's talk about what we're sipping on here. It is called a love gun. That's fun. Yeah. Love Gun.
Starting point is 00:00:58 We're going to give you the rating and reveal the cost per glass at the end of the episode. So stick around for that. This is a good one. I'll just give you a little warning. It's good. You think? That good. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:01:09 So far, a little bland for me. I like the name better than you taste. We'll just wait. It gets better. I can't wait. Okay. So we got to start by saying. that generosity is very important to us.
Starting point is 00:01:19 It's a major part of the Ramsey plan, and we believe it's the most fun that you can have with money, truly, more than spending, more than saving. But it can apparently be fraught with shock and scandal. Yes. I don't know why you're surprised by this, George, because you had donation gate
Starting point is 00:01:36 at your daughter's birthday for people to fund his daughter's education, even though Jorns has a full-time job, and he is fine, financially, but he's having other people fund his daughter's education. Tell us about it, George. I don't know what character you were turning into, but I wanted to see where it was going. I just like this is you. I don't know. Tell us about it.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I talked about this. We had a whole episode of Brown Financial Fou Paws, and I shared the story but how I set up, it was just a fun QR code for some family and a few close friends. And I thought this will be fun if they want to donate to her college fund on her first birthday. They're welcome to do so. It turned into it. people saying, I can't believe you're using social media to try to fund your daughter's education. Go fund yourself. And I was like, whoa, guys, that's not the intent here. I don't need your money. I just thought, hey, instead of buying my daughter crap that will send a goodwill, why not give her something that will actually help her future? Yeah, and you're not asking strangers, you're asking your good friends and family to fund your daughter's education.
Starting point is 00:02:38 The 10 people that were invited to her birthday party. Not you guys. I'm kidding, George. But I posted about it for fun. I'm saying like this is the kind of dad I am, the nerdy dad. who has a QR code to... It was more of making fun of myself than it was soliciting donations. Yes. But the funny thing, ironically, is that it wasn't like a joke.
Starting point is 00:02:54 You were being very for real. But you know, you're in good company because funding people's life events is now very normal. We've normalized it. Funding people's, yes, weddings or honeymoons or vacations. Like, this is what people do. But I will say there is a funding that is great.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Like, if there's a tragedy that hits, you know, that's one place the internet is wonderful. because you are able to get the word out and people are able to help on a bigger scale, which is beautiful. Yeah, medical bills or, you know, house fire, things like that. Those are legitimate needs, and it's a beautiful thing to get outsource it
Starting point is 00:03:27 to community of friends and family and strangers. Okay, but it has gone bad. Like, there's been so many different scam stuff. Do you know one of my favorite podcasts last year? And then they turned it into a TV show. Scamanda. Did you ever listen to it? Oh, I heard about this.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I think you probably told me about it if you're going to be real. OM.G. What happens in Scamanda? OMG. This woman... Very great. It's a great name. Such a great name.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Like great title. Glad her name was Amanda. Just like Top Gun or Love Gun. What's this called? Love Gun. Love Gun. Not Top Gun. Different.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Top Gun. Top Gun. Love Gun. Yes. She faked cancer, George. This woman fake cancer. And I don't want to give it all away, but at first came out like her neighbor was like, oh my gosh. Something's not adding up because the girl, Amanda, was like, oh, I'm getting a port done because of my brain,
Starting point is 00:04:14 So she's posting videos from the hospital? Well, you are jumping the gun. Top gun, love gun over there. Stop that. No, listen, she first was telling this neighbor, like all this stuff. Like, her brain was, like, had fluid in it. So she had to get a drink because of the cancer. But then she'd, like, go to the neighbor's house and tell her all this and then go swim.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And the neighbor was like, you just had a major procedure on. Something isn't adding up. So this neighbor was on it from the top. She's like, something's wrong. And then for years and years and years and years and years and years, this woman was telling, like, church family, family. and would go check herself into the emergency room, y'all, and take pictures of herself with like an IV and different things.
Starting point is 00:04:54 But anytime anyone was like, hey, I'll go to chemo with you, she's like, there was always an excuse. Like, oh, no, you can't. They won't let you, you. You know, so no one ever, like, legitimately saw her, but later to then, here's what's crazy. So she goes online and it becomes this massive, like, GoFund me, all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:09 People are funding her life because she can't work and she's married and all this stuff. And kids, so sad. And so she ends up, they catch on to her because the neighbor, the first neighbor, contacts an investigator, basically reporter and was like,
Starting point is 00:05:25 hey, I think this woman is faking cancer. Like, you can't ever say that aloud. How terrible would that be, right? And if you're wrong, that's probably the worst thing to be wrong about. You don't want to be wrong about that. But she told this reporter, and the reporter starts, like, digging into it
Starting point is 00:05:37 and realizes, yeah, it is a scam. And they end up getting the FBI involved because of wire fraud, And when you give money, I guess, across state lines or something, there's like a federal law or whatever. So she ends up, it's more the IRS that takes her down out of everything. Oh, wow. Because she wasn't paying taxes on them?
Starting point is 00:05:55 No, it was because of, like, the government agency of, like, of wire fraud. It turned into that. So, you guys, it's a great podcast if you need a good one. And I'm seeing here, she got over $100,000 in donations. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And the husband's in on it. Yeah, he's got, well, his name is Corey, and we're not sure.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Sure. I don't think he was officially charged or not, but there's no way he couldn't have known. What about the kids? These poor innocent kids were they in? Oh, it's terrible. Terrible. No. Were they old enough to know what was going on? Well, she had some, yeah, she had a, yeah, it's a big family tree. But it was wild, George. Anyways. Thanks for the spark notes on that. You saved me hours of my life. You're welcome. You should listen to it. That's a really good podcast. Way more entertaining than actually watching it. So it's clear that with Scamanda, people were seriously misled about what they were giving to.
Starting point is 00:06:39 But I've seen some bold go-fund-mys that aren't hiding a thing. Here's an example. Someone from our team had a friend who made a GoFundMe to raise money for her twins' college education. Both were going to expensive private universities, zero dollars. That's embarrassing. Oh, they didn't raise anything? No. Posted about it, hey, we really need the help to send our kids to these very expensive private universities. No empathy from her friends on Facebook. Yeah, I mean, I could see. I could see.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yikes. Our team found a list of some of the wildest go-fund me campaigns. and we're going to start with the first one. And I'll say with the caveat, before we begin this, again, the internet is a beautiful, wonderful place that, again, you get messages out about situations that are happening that you actually can give to that are legitimate. Like, it is, it is not, we're not bashing this.
Starting point is 00:07:28 But like every great thing, George, there's always a downside. Every rose has a storm. And we, this is what we do on the show, talk about the downside. So you're ready for the first one? What's the title? Tiled, booze, drugs, Sigs.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Okay. And this creator said that he's broke and trying to have a lit summer. I think that he stole Kid Rock lyrics. I think that's literally the song of the summer from Kid Rock. He's trying to raise money for his booze, drugs, and sigs. I love the honesty, though.
Starting point is 00:08:03 You're not getting scammed on that one. There's no limits. It's not like GoFund me. He's like, hey, this has to be a legitimate thing. You're really going through something. He just wanted to fund his summer. and he was very honest about it. He didn't try to lie.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I need to go to college. No, he just wanted booze, drugs, and sigs, which I don't condone any of those things for all the children watching and my mom. What I give to this, that's the question. I might just to say I was a part of history. No, not a lot, not enough to enable, but like a dollar. Just to...
Starting point is 00:08:33 Enough to show up on the side that shows like, George Campbell donated $1. Would you? I think I'd scroll past it, but I appreciate the effort. You know, at least there's effort. He didn't like rob a bank or something. That's true. You could be committing actual crimes.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Yeah, that's right. He's not hurting anyone. Okay, here's the next one. Okay. The campaign name, I booked the wrong plane ticket, L.O.L. That's what they named the GoFundMe. So a girl was having her wedding in India,
Starting point is 00:09:02 but accidentally booked the wrong tickets for two of her friends and needed $1,200 to fix it. Oh, stop it. How do you book the wrong ticket? Are there that many Indias? Oh, my gosh. What if she went to? like Indiana instead of India.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I feel like who married her? No offense. But if you, that's a big typo. That is bad. I wonder if the dates were wrong. Truly not the destination. She just said booked the wrong ticket. So we're going to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Maybe a wrong date. Like, you know what? I may give to that. That would be so sad that you were just trying to do something good for your friends. Probably trying to help them and try to get like, oh, let's all get tickets together on the plane or something. I don't know. Like, it's so goodhearted of her, and then she messed up a detail. And I get that.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I've messed up details, George. I would have contacted the airline first, but I guess she tried that to see if they could switch a ticket. Yeah, it sounds like that's the case. $1,200 would I give to this if I knew her? I don't think I would give to a stranger's campaign. But if I was like a friend or family, I would consider that my wedding gift. I would say, hey, I'm going to give $50, $100, but no wedding gift. Are your wedding gifts, $50?
Starting point is 00:10:09 I don't know what people are doing these days. Nobody invites me to weddings, to be honest. You know what, that's fair. I haven't been to a wedding in a long time. I'm only friends with people that are already married, and the people that are single, they don't want me there, apparently. Well, play matchmaker.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I only get invited to weddings from strangers. Like, fans of, you know, fan of Smart Money Happy Hour, will send one to the office. And I'm like, are they trying to get free product? I don't know. Oh my gosh. But I'm not going to travel to, you know. You can inspect your gadget.
Starting point is 00:10:35 To go to this wedding. I would figure out all these things, George. I would give 50 to 100 bucks if I knew the person. Okay. That's fair. I would feel bad for a bride going through a lot. A lot of details, a lot of stress. Whoopsies. That's so funny. Well, $1,200 online. Wopsies aren't just a risk when you're booking travel, George. It can happen if you fall for a scam. And there's fishing out there. There's harassment. So much of our information that's online now can be used against us. People are tricking us now. And they're getting good. That's why delete me as a service that everyone needs. That's right. Personal day.
Starting point is 00:11:10 isn't just about spam anymore. There's a lot of just fraud and these fishing attacks where they make you think they're a legitimate company, organization, government, whatever, and you click a link and next thing you know, you've sent them a bunch of money. And so to avoid them getting your information in the first place, delete me can help protect you against all of that. So they remove your personal info. They send you a report showing you here's where it was, here's where we removed it, and here's how much time we saved you, and I sleep better because of it. And they do this all year long in the background, site by site, listing by listing, with a real person doing all of this.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Yeah, and then they send you the report, so you know what's going on, you know your data that's been removed from what websites. I mean, it's just amazing. Like, they are an incredible service, you guys. So we'll put a link down below for you to check out, or you can go to join, delete me.com slash smart money,
Starting point is 00:11:58 and you can get 20% off the annual plan. And again, it comes out to just about $9 a month, which is amazing. So make sure to check them out. All right, you're ready for the next campaign. GoFund me, someone out there titled, Big Move to L.A. One woman decided she's going to move to Los Angeles, but she needs $3,000 to do it.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And she says, I promise I would not be asking if it wasn't absolutely necessary. In my research of the entertainment industry, I found that Los Angeles is the best location for me to launch my career. You needed research for that? you probably shouldn't be in the entertainment industry if you have to Google where is entertainment industry how to get job in entertainment industry
Starting point is 00:12:45 but good for her I like that she promised she wouldn't be asking if it wasn't absolutely necessary she doesn't have secret money laying around and she's doing this for fun as people tend to do yeah no this is what she absolutely needs but just a big move to L.A., help with the move
Starting point is 00:13:02 would you give to it? I don't think I would Because number one, this is the person that's on American Idol who's a terrible singer, but people in her life have lied to her. I think this is that similar person. Oh, no, you do? I don't know that they have true talent. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:13:18 So that's the thing. I would want to see, like, give me an audition video. Really sell it to me as to why I should invest in your career. Yeah. That's really, I'm buying a share in Rachel Cruz as the actor. Okay, are you ready for this? This is so Ramsey. But this is what I think, too.
Starting point is 00:13:30 I'm like, it's $3,000 bucks. Let's get a $1,000 side hustle. That's the thing. but let's move in three months. We can do this. You know what happens when she moves to L.A. and doesn't have a job and then goes, I need more GoFund maze now because rent is expensive.
Starting point is 00:13:44 What do you do? I know. We've got to start this ball early, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean, I've seen La La Land. Go work at a coffee shop. Go, you know, serve tables a night. Do what you got to do for the dream. Yes, I know.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Yeah. Love that documentary. I know. I think I'm... Ryan Gosling, that guy is going places. Did you like it? I thought it was a little boring. Did I like it?
Starting point is 00:14:03 It became my personality for six of six of. See, my personality was the greatest showman. That was more realistic to you. Love the greatest showman. No, such better music. You know what I liked about La La Land? The sad ending. I thought, now that is reality of L.A.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Oh, my gosh. Heartbreak, but silver lining, personal growth. Come on home. Or what's you, Jackman sing? From now on. That's such a better song to end the movie than your sad. Sad movie.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I thought greatest showman was great. I don't think you can even compare the two movies. Why? They have nothing to do with each other. They're both about the entertainment industry. They're both musicals, George. What are you talking about? That's a thin thread.
Starting point is 00:14:46 It's like Pearl Harbor and Titanic. Both terrible events in history. We can compare those. One was about a war. One was about a ship sinking. Just because they both involve ships doesn't mean they're similar movies. There's a love story. Something terrible and tragic happens.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Who got painted nude in Pearl Harbor? Where was the third? through line there. You can end it there so I can end this conversation. So the key is you would not give to this poor woman who's trying to launch her big career. Sorry, no, I'm giving to the bride above if I need to give so far. Not to L.A.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Sorry. I just like skinning the game. Upload the audition tape. And if I'm like, wow, she's going places. I want to support this. I can say I was there when. I was there when she was just trying to make it to L.A. And look at her now.
Starting point is 00:15:28 She's Adele or whoever. Katie Perry. Who would you go? No. Oh, man. All right. Next up, get Brett to yoga teacher training. What?
Starting point is 00:15:41 My guy, Brett, asked for $650 for a yoga teacher training. Oh, no. What are they training them to do? Do yoga. Have you seen the instructors? Have you seen the things they say? They're incredible. Very flexible, George.
Starting point is 00:15:57 All they do is just quietly tell you about your day and tell you to breathe in peace and exhale your target return. And it's very like, Woo-woo. It's not. I mean... When's the last time you went to a yoga class? Four weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I don't go regularly. What was the instructor's name? I don't remember. I don't be honest. I remember all the names of the great teachers in my life. I like it. I like it. It's a great workout, especially the flow classes.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Vinyasa. Where you're constantly, you're moving and all your warrior... But you're going... I mean, you can really... And then if you do hot yoga, that's crazy. Where it's hot in there and you're doing it, it's great. I used to do that a lot.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I don't like to sweat on purpose. If I want to do, it's accidental. Do you not do a sauna? I've done sonas. Okay, yeah. But that doesn't feel like sweat. That feels like there's a forced thing happening there. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:50 It's like, I don't know where this condensation is coming from. What about yoga for you? Have you ever done yoga? Yeah, I did it once and it was a terrible experience. Was it? Because they never told me what I want instruction. When you say yoga instructor, tell me what to do. all she did was suggest things.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Perhaps you find your arm leaning over your head. There's a chance you find yourself surrendering to your pelvis. I'm like, what do you... Why do they have to make it so weird? You know what I mean? Maybe your knees find a natural safe place. I'm like, tell me what to do. That's all I want.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Is that too much to ask? Just like tell me, hey, okay, now here's what we're going to do next, guys. That's what that... I'll be honest, that's usually my instructors. Like, go to Warrior One. You know what I mean? And they, like, tell you what to do. Now there's different moves I have to memorize.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yeah. Here's the best part. I was in a dark, quiet room for an hour without being bothered. That was the best part of yoga. I thought, I could do this at home. I could lock myself in a closet with the door closed with some nice music. Oh, George. Without Amber telling me suggestions.
Starting point is 00:17:52 So no, I didn't go back. I felt nothing other than uncomfortable. Man, okay. That's not a great experience. With some wood blocks. So you're definitely not giving it. Gary, Greg, who's going? Brett.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Brett, the yoga instructor. Okay, he says, this is the direct quote. I am starting this campaign to help raise money for myself so that I may start my journey into yoga teacher training. You lost me at calling it a journey, Brett. It's training. Don't call it a journey. You're not finding yourself.
Starting point is 00:18:20 You're learning how to suggest poses. Oh, look at his next quote. This will provide me with the tools so I can better serve each and every person in my life. I've got them with positivity. light. Namaste. Would I give to this?
Starting point is 00:18:35 No. And honestly, if you can't save up $650 to take the training, there's a part of me, I'm with you. What are you doing with your life? Yeah, I got you. He's fine. Like it might take a while,
Starting point is 00:18:47 100 bucks for six months, he's got the training covered. He's on a journey, you know? He just needs the journey funded. I would just go to work before GoFund me. You know what I mean? I would try that first. And if all else fails, if tragedy
Starting point is 00:18:58 befall me, I will then go to GoFund me. Okay. But as your first effort, I would not start at GoFund me. I would not do that. Sorry, Brett. Should we send Brett a treat to celebrate the start of his new career, though? Because you know who has some great athleisure?
Starting point is 00:19:13 They'll be very comfortable to wear while instructing yoga? Not a yoga company that I'm thinking of. I'm thinking of cozy earth. Now we're talking about. They have athleisure and other products that are absolutely incredible. Sleepwear, bedding? Blankets. Yes.
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Starting point is 00:19:38 Some of my favorites. So this day. Incredible. I love it. And if you want a sweet discount, you can get up to 40% off if you go to this site, cozy earth.com slash smart money
Starting point is 00:19:48 or click the link in the description. Use promo code smart money at checkout. Yeah, give it. I would say get yourself some stuff. And it's a great gift. Speaking of generosity. What a tie-in. Full circle.
Starting point is 00:20:00 We should do like a GoFundMe for like people that need cozy earth products, you know, like everyone give to it. Because no, but really it is. It's incredible. I think my favorite that I've recently got is the blanket. And it's not the like really big heavy one. It's like the medium one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:15 But it's the one that is on our couch. Currently when we all watch, because we'll usually watch Wheel of Fortune at 630 at our house after dinner. Wow. Us and the kids. And that's the blanket that is on my couch. It's the wheel of fortune blanket. It really is. So if you want to see how the other half lives.
Starting point is 00:20:30 get the cozy earth blanket, turn on wheel of fortune. Lights out by 7.30. Amen, hallelujah. That's the rule. So Brett, reach out if you somehow see this and you truly are that yoga instructor. Number one, I hope you've made it through the training and you are thriving.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And number two, we'll send you a gift for roasting you. All right, George. So this last campaign we're going to look at, it actually worked, you know, because a lot of people are now asking for funds to go on trips, to concerts, you know, they want tickets to these music festivals. Ready for this?
Starting point is 00:20:59 A girl requested, and receive $600 to go to Burning Man. She said, I have the opportunity to get more in touch with myself through this rich experience and will have a spiritual impact on me that I can't put into words. I view Burning Man as a way to recharge my battery and level up my abilities to help people
Starting point is 00:21:17 be more aware of the impact to their emotional well-being. What? It's rumored that in 2025, the headliners, okay, I don't know any of these people. Can you even say these names? I'm so scared to say this one. So these are rumored 2025 headliners at Burning Man. Diplo.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Correct. Carl Cox. Sounds good. Nina Cravix. I think it's Cravitz. Travets. Tycho? Tyco. You're doing good.
Starting point is 00:21:47 The rest are easy. Major laser? Yep. And Scrillix? I don't even know what Burning Man is. Think like if a... I've heard of... There was a club, but it was outside, and there was a lot of drugs.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Isn't that the one that everyone that goes to in, like, Arizona or something? Isn't there, like, a cool one? They basically create this, like, art exhibit and community, and they burn it all down at the end. No. I think that's what happens there, correct? You can fact-check me on that. But they have this big, like, art thing, and they burn it down at you. There's one in Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:22:19 What's, like, the real big music festival? Bonaroo. Bonaroo. There's also Coachella. Coachella, that's what I'm thinking of. But Bonaroo is a big one in Tennessee. Can I tell you festivals? Make me so sad.
Starting point is 00:22:30 You have to stand so much. So much standing. Don't like standing. I need a designated seat. No shade is the biggest issue for me. I mean, a festival sounds, I can't, I don't like it. Being out in a field, because you're usually in fields, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Walking around. I guess that's the proper term for where these take place. Walking around. Like, no seat, no place to sit and eat. There's no tables. I think what you're thinking of is a restaurant. I think that's what you're looking for. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Call me old, but never have. The thing that gets me is how expensive everything is. They're charging these people out the wazoo for water bottles and a slice of pizza is $13. See, they'll do that at like a... But they'll do that at like a game, like a professional game or something. Yeah. That I would go, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Well, you saw the stat. 60% of people at Coachella used buy and now pay later to finance it. Oh, man. Oh, man. So not helping. Rachel's take. Isn't that the rich one, Coachella? Isn't it like the really like boozy one? I feel like everyone's out. There's more like VIP experiences. It's not like in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. That is just... So you're out. You're not going to support our friend. I like restaurants,
Starting point is 00:23:41 sporting events and spas. That's right. I would spend my money. Never invite Rachel to Bonneroo or Burning Man or Coachella. She will not go. And also, she doesn't know any of the artists. It's a waste of your time. She's not going to... Do you know? Have you heard of any of those? Yes, at least three. Oh, man. Yes, Diplo, Tyco, Skrillix, and I've heard of Major. So, four. Okay. You don't know who Carl or Nina are, but I'm sure they're very nice people, very talented, very successful.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Otherwise, they wouldn't be headlining, burning, man. I don't get it. Would you, what festival would you actually attend and pay $600 for? Who would the artists have to be? I mean, I'm not kidding me. Getting me to a field is like, I just don't. It's not my thing. What if you were carted around?
Starting point is 00:24:24 You were back on a tour bus with AC. All right, if I had like a VIP. If I had like a glamping experience. There's waiter serving you in the shade. There's fans blowing. People are feeding you grapes. Okay. Then what would I need to go? What would be fun?
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah, what artists would need to be there? Yeah, I would go like straight, like whatever was good in like 2003. Like put all those people on the stage. That'd be fun for me. Okay. So about 22 years in the past. Like my high school years, that would be enjoyable. Because other than that, you know this.
Starting point is 00:24:52 My playlist is literally... She wants the hits. Taylor Swift and the goodness of God. This is the only songs I listen to on. All right. If you guys ever want to put on a festival and you want Rachel Cruz to be there, that's what, who needs to be there?
Starting point is 00:25:03 That's right. Who does goodness of God? Is that like a hill song situation? No, that's Bethel. Is it Bethel? I think it's Bethel. That's the new Hill song. When Bethel and Taylor Swift come together, Rachel will be there.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Stranger things have happened. I mean, Boney Verr and Taylor did a collab, and he's my favorite. Never mind. You don't know any of the words I just said, you don't care. I don't do music, George. I would not. on tape.
Starting point is 00:25:27 For the record, I would not give. I think you're not going to... Yeah, no, I'm not giving to this. Be any more aware of the impact of your emotional well-being by going to... I don't get. I would pay $600 for therapy for this woman. That's at least four sessions. Yeah, that would be great.
Starting point is 00:25:43 That's what she needs to do. Now, we had fun roasting them all, Rachel, but let's reiterate. We are very pro-giving, pro-generosity. It should be a regular thing you do with your time and your money, and not just when tragedy strikes or when a GoFundMe hits you right. So if you want to help a stranger by going to Burning Man and the spirit moved you to give some money, knock your socks off.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Yeah, I appreciate that. I'm not mad about that. No, but I think, yes, having a spirit of generosity, I think is really important. And studies show that you are a happier person when you give. Like there is something about it. And I would say, too, challenge yourself not to give out of the motivation of what you're going to get,
Starting point is 00:26:17 your happiness, because we know that now. But it's like, it's the decent human thing to do when you see people in need, right? when there's situations that need help, like fill in the gap in life, right? That makes the world go around. Yes. And then you get the benefit of being happier. Yeah, there's a lot of scientific benefits.
Starting point is 00:26:33 There's a lot of spiritual benefits. And think about the last time you gave, it felt amazing. Yes. Even more than when you receive. Yep. And if you're giving becomes stale, because we have a lot of people that have been watching Ramsey stuff for, you know, 10 plus here. Some of you all are the hardcore, yes, Ramsey people, which is great.
Starting point is 00:26:50 So a lot of people, you know, we've been talking about giving and giving 10%. and that's always been a core part of our message. So a lot of people do that. But I will say, Winston I found it's sometimes like when it's just kind of automatic, you don't always feel the impacts, right? Like there's something about having... It's not always magical. Spontaneous moments, though, to put back in to, like bring life back to your giving
Starting point is 00:27:11 if you feel like it has gotten stale. So find some creative ways to do some stuff for people, like individuals. I always think that's fun. And you may not get like the tax ride off or whatever, but like, throw all that out of the window. Just like, let the spirit move. And it's really fun to help individuals when you know. Like the GoFundMe's we joked about, right?
Starting point is 00:27:26 But sometimes you will see individuals that truly do need help. And if you have the ability and the margin, that's one of the reasons you want to win with money. It's not just to keep giving to yourself. It is to be a generous giver. Beautiful reminder. And the way I have made this a habit is in my every dollar budget, I have a line item for spontaneous giving.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Yes. I call it the bless-up fund. You can have whatever clever name you want. But it's just a way for me to basically plan for the spontaneous. So that if an opportunity arises, I don't have to go, oh gosh, I didn't budget for that. You just have it ready to go. So if you guys want to check out every dollar,
Starting point is 00:27:58 we will put a link in the show notes and you can create your own light item for giving. Yeah, that makes it really fun. Super, super fun. It's a good time. Now, on the flip side, depending on the generosity of others, it's not great to just your whole life to go, I need this to happen or else.
Starting point is 00:28:12 You've got to be able to take care of your own needs and work to afford your goals and wants. That's kind of part of the roasting is just put some sacrifice in, work for it, make some money, and don't expect everyone else to fund all. your dreams. And if you're ever genuinely a need or you're being randomly blessed, receive it graciously. I love this quote. Don't block a blessing. If somebody wants to give, it's not up to you to say, no, no, no, no, I can't. Don't try to humble your way out of it.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Just say, thank you so much. That's so kind. That's good. Let them get the benefit. It's not all about you. As you're receiving it. Yeah. No, that's fair. I think that's good. That's really good. Yeah. And I will say, too, the internet is a beautiful place that if stuff does happen and tragedy, real tragedy does strike, it is a place that, yeah, you get to understand and learn about other people and their stories and their situations, and if you have the means,
Starting point is 00:29:02 and maybe you know someone or you're one degree separated or not, and you're like, no, this is something I want to give to. It really is a beautiful thing. And go from me, it is a great website to be able to do that, right? So you can go on there, and there's so many different categories and situations and everything. I mean, some of it's heartbreaking. I mean, it is.
Starting point is 00:29:20 It's just, it's horrible. But yeah, I always find with whether it's like medical events that come up, people can use that and they're able to email out those links and people are able to help. Because especially medical bills, it's one of the leading causes of bankruptcy in America. So to help bridge the gap there, I think is like a really beautiful thing. And then some other spontaneous stuff, Carlos Whitaker, we were talking, he does a great job with generosity. But he even did like a go-fund me with a piano player at an airport. Oh, I saw that.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Like, 60 grand? Was it 60 grams? I'd say 50 grand or something? You know, it's like spontaneous moments like that that you're able to get people involved. It's just a, it's a beautiful thing. Beautiful world we live in. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And here's one of my favorite GoFundMe success stories. Here's the campaign. Support Rockstar Pizza Driver's dedication. Here it is. Pizza delivery driver delivers pizza a half a mile on foot in a snowstorm to an affluent neighborhood only to receive a $2 tip.
Starting point is 00:30:17 This is me when I did the Instacard driving. This is exactly, this is my version. of it. All the sacrifice. A police officer witnessed the whole thing. The police officer puts it on TikTok and viewers wanted to donate to him. So the officer created a GoFundMe to raise $500 in honor of this guy's work ethic. And he raised over $45,000.
Starting point is 00:30:36 No. See, I like that. It gives you faith in humanity a little bit. And I like that it wasn't him that created the GoFundMe. It's something about someone else seeing a situation. I think people are more up to give to that. Yes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:49 I don't know what that is. What do you think is behind that? versus the driver is like, oh, my gosh, only got a $2 tip. Does anyone want to give me a go-fund me? Like, you know what I mean? Because I feel bad for me. It's kind of that, like, they're not asking for it. And you almost want to bless that because it's like the unexpected blessing.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yes. In the fact that someone else has the heart to create this and try to... There's something about that. I love it. Very beautiful. Yeah. There's a guy Jimmy Darts who's out there, and he was actually on my YouTube channel. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Wonderful guy. And so what he does is he'll go up to people in need. He'll kind of source stories locally and say, hey, does anyone know someone to need in this area? He'll vibe it out. He'll surprise them, find them in a Walmart and go, hey, do you have a dollar for me? I'm hungry or I need a bus ticket, and they'll give
Starting point is 00:31:29 him a dollar. And he goes, hey, since you were so nice to me, here's $500. And they're always taken aback. Oh, yes. But it doesn't stop there. He then shares that video on social media. It gets millions of views, and he starts to go fund me for each of them, raising another $50,000 to $100,000. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:31:45 For each individual. And he does this every single week. So here's the latest GoFundMe. I just pulled it up to see what he's up to. Okay. So let's help get Jeff off the streets. So it's a guy who's experiencing homelessness. He works at Sprouts now, and he was sleeping outside. And so he ran into him.
Starting point is 00:32:01 They went through this whole situation. The GoFundMe currently has almost $90,000 raised out of $100,000 goal. Three days, it's been up. Stop it. And so that's all he does is he spotlights people in need, gets a community around them. And so that really does inspire me, and this is probably the best use of GoFundMe instead of drugs, booze, and burning man.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I would agree. And when Jesus says, did you feed me when I was hungry? There it is. He gets front of the line. That's right. Extra jewel on the crown in heaven. 100%.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Meanwhile, they're going to be like, why didn't you give to that girl who wanted to go on her journey? I'm like, oh, dang, I didn't think this would come back to haunt me. He gave to the bride because she already booked wrong tickets. Yikes.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah, given to the people actually in deep need. That's fine. It does make you want to give more, seeing these stories. Oh, for sure. That's beautiful. So beautiful, George. Love it. Love giving. And love this. And Love Gun, which is the name of the drink today. So before we spill our guilty as charge question and answers, what is this?
Starting point is 00:33:00 This is the Love Gun. The drink comes out to $2.84 per glass. Here's what's in it. Can you guess at all what's in it? I would say lemonade. Okay. It does have lemon juice. Oh, right. Okay. It has light rum, lemon juice, raspberry syrup, simple syrup, St. Elizabeth, Allsperson. Dram and club soda. Man.
Starting point is 00:33:21 So it's a very, kind of a almost like a berry lemonade type drink. It feels like a brunch cocktail. Yes. So I'm going to go. If I'm not in the mood for mimosa,
Starting point is 00:33:31 I'll take this. I'm going nine out of ten. Yeah. And it got better as it went down. So a mixologist Michael told me that the club soda is sitting on top. So it's a layered drink. So it kind of changes and gets more interesting
Starting point is 00:33:42 and a little more boozy as you make your way down. Yeah, I like it. Nine out of ten for me too. It's great. All right. get the recipe in the show notes, give it a try this weekend if you are of age. Good disclaimer.
Starting point is 00:33:54 It's proud of that. Yeah, very good disclaimer. Remember that, kids. All right, now it's time for Guilty as charged. And this is where we ask each other. A guilty is charged question every week, and if we're guilty, we take a sip.
Starting point is 00:34:07 All right, you're ready, George? Yep. Have you ever passed up an opportunity to give because it was a bad pitch? Oh, gosh. Do you have a story? Yeah. This happened recently.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I was walking the dogs in my neighborhood. You know how kids will sit like on the sidewalk and like sell stuff, little table lemonade stand? Well, this kid, a few doors down, he didn't have a table. He was in an SUV with the sunroof open and his head was poking out and he was just yelling,
Starting point is 00:34:36 candy for sale, candy for sale. What kind of candy? I don't know. What price point? No idea. And so Whitney, my wife is just like, come on, you have to like acknowledge him and talk to him. And I went, no, I'm not going to enable this terrible version of entrepreneurship
Starting point is 00:34:52 that's happening right here. He needs to learn a lesson. This is not how you solicit customers. And so I walked right past him, and on the way back, he was now sad. And he was saying out loud, in earshot of me, saying, nobody wants my candy or my flowers. And he was still sitting in the sunroof,
Starting point is 00:35:09 just all... How old is this kid? I don't know, probably seven, eight. Wow. But he was all myth that nobody wanted his flower. I was like, have a table. Give me a price. list. Show me what you're selling me.
Starting point is 00:35:21 You know what I mean? Is it a Butterfinger? Is it Reesies? Are they Magnolias? What do we got here? What do we have? Let me know what kind of product you have. Sitting in the driveway in your SUV poking out of the sunroof, that's not how you sell. You're not doing that. Yeah. Who's in the driver's seat, the mom, dad? No, but it was just a car wasn't turned on. He was just
Starting point is 00:35:39 in the driveway, car turned off with his head out the sunroof. Oh my. Do you understand how wild of a situation that is? It's a little dangerous. I hope he can like get out of the car, you know? Oh, he's fine. He was just poking his head out the sunroof, you know, in the back seat kind of thing. So anyways, that's, I turned him down hard.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I did not acknowledge him. And I didn't have time. I was walking the dogs. Didn't have time to coach him up and be like, hey, man, if you got a nice little table out here, get a setup, lay out your items nicely. You know, aesthetic matters. Yeah. Show me the inventory.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Give me a very clear price list. What's the value proposition here? Oh, my gosh. None of that. Okay, just screaming. And you said, nope. So that was, yeah, Whitney was still, I think she's, still mad at me for not being nice.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah. I don't just give kids money because of effort. You've got to really put the right effort. Mine's tough because I don't always have cash on me. Like especially in the neighborhood, if I'm walking or something, I have my phone and my AirPods and that's it. They don't take Venmo these days? Some will, and that's the smart thing. You've got to do the Venmo thing. Cash app. That's my thing. If he had
Starting point is 00:36:39 a big QR code, hey, scan to pay, here's the price list. Here's what I'm raising this for. Get your QR code template from yours. Honestly, I should have asked you to watch. Honestly, I should train him up and say, hey, man, I just did a very unsuccessful campaign for my daughter's college. You could take some notes here. Maybe that's why.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I saw myself and him. I saw my own failures and insecurities in this kid. And he said I can't give to that. But if you see a Girl Scout, are you acknowledging? Are you buying? Girl Scouts, yeah, I'll do that. Our Boy Scouts will do, like, wreaths at Christmas time. That's cute?
Starting point is 00:37:11 I'll buy some, yeah, I'll buy some things. I will. I used to be a little bit like, we've already done our giving, and it's not the budget. But if it's like a neighborhood kid that we know, I will. Yeah, I will do it. I've done it before. I got scammed with giving. That's what came to my head. What happened? Yeah, we had someone ring our doorbell and I went and they gave me this whole pitch about like there's a food desert. I think I may have told this story like a year ago. A food desert in a part of like Nashville like an hour away. They don't have fresh crops and they're
Starting point is 00:37:39 trying to get inner city kids to create this garden. It was a beautiful idea. And I was like, you know what? I will. Like, I'll give. I'll use that spontaneous line item in my every dollar budget. And I'll give. So I fell for it. And I, he gave me like a packet and everything. Like, it was legit. And I wrote a check and gave it to him. And I got the packet. And then Winston came home on like an hour later. So I was telling him about it. He was like, let me see it. And he went and looked up the website and everything. Doesn't exist. Complete scam. So once I had to call the bank and like void the check and all of this. I was like, oh my gosh. How terrible. Who's putting the kids up to this?
Starting point is 00:38:17 It can't be of their own volition. Oh. Like a guy came. It was a guy, like a grown man. I know. Complete scam. I'm so sorry. I fell for it because I thought, what a great idea.
Starting point is 00:38:27 But to be fair, he found his target demo. Sweet gullible Rachel. Because you know me. I'd be like, what's the website? I know, y'all. I didn't look up anything at out. Yeah, it was not great. What's your 501C3 code here?
Starting point is 00:38:42 I'm trying to think if I didn't give because of the pitch. I don't. I'm sure, yeah, I mean, I don't give every time I'm asked. Yeah. The problem I have is if it's like a friend's kid, like I had that happen to me once, that came to my door to sell me on like, hey, you want the Tumblr for selling for band camp? And I was like, all right, fine. I know.
Starting point is 00:38:59 So I just bought it, never used it, immediately goodwilled it. I know. But I supported it. I wish I just had given them 20 bucks and said, I don't need the cut. I don't need the thing. Don't need to order your thing. Yeah. I think food is the best way.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Girls'Cout cookies, popcorn. Like, that's like, you can consume it and enjoy it. Yeah, it's good. Or re-gift it. Well, if you have a guilt use charge question, make sure to DM us at Rachel Cruz and at George Camel. It's always helpful to get your ideas. And if you love this episode, you'll definitely love our episode on dupes, counterfeits, and scams. You don't want to miss it.
Starting point is 00:39:30 We'll put a link down below. And we're also going to talk about Winston's Craiglist trauma that happened in that. Scams everywhere, y'all. What is happening in our room? I need to solicit reviews. Speaking of generosity, would you be so kind to. leave us a review wherever you're listening. We love to see them.
Starting point is 00:39:48 It helps the team know what you're liking, what you don't like, so we can keep making some sweet episodes. We love you guys. They are the best. So we'll see you next Thursday on an all new episode of Smart Money Happy Hour.

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