Smosh Mouth - #97 - Spilling The Tea w/ Spill Sesh

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

Amanda and Shayne spill the tea with Spill Sesh's Kristi Cook! Exclusive $30-off Carver Mat at AuraFrames.com. Promo Code: SMOSHMOUTH 0:00 Intro 12:23 Sponsor! 13:56 Spilling tea 22:13 The backflip dilemma 32:13 Celebrity cringe 40:14 Favorite celeb drama 44:46 More on Spill Sesh PODCAST: https://bit.ly/SmoshMouthSpotify https://smo.sh/SmoshMouthiHeart https://bit.ly/SmoshMouthApple  SUBSCRIBE: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshCast WEAR OUR JOKES: https://smosh.com  WHO YOU HEAR Shayne Topp // https://www.instagram.com/shaynetopp/ Amanda Lehan-Canto // https://www.instagram.com/filmingamanda/ Spill Sesh / Kristi Cook // https://www.instagram.com/spillsesh/ WHO YOU DON’T HEAR (usually) Director: Selina Garcia Editor: Rayne Darling (formerly Kortney Luby) Producer: Amanda Lehan-Canto, Shayne Topp, Selina Garcia Production Designer: Cassie Vance Art Director: Erin Kuschner Assistant Art Director: Josie Bellerby Stage Manager: Alex Aguilar Prop Master: Courtney Chapman Prop Fabricator: Carly Hough Prop Assistant: Bridgette Baron Audio Mixer: Scott Neff Director of Photography: Brennan Iketani Videographer: James Hull Camera Operator: Cameron Dunbar Assistant Director: Jonathan Hyon Executive Vice President of Production: Amanda Barnes Senior Production Manager: Alexcina Figueroa Production Manager: Jonathan Hyon Production Coordinator: Zianne Hoover Operations & Production Coordinator: Oliver Wehlander Production Assistant: Caroline Smith Post Production Manager: Luke Baker DIT/Lead AE: Matt Duran IT: Tim Baker IT & Equipment Coordinator: Lopati Ho Chee Sound Editor: Gareth Hird Director of Design: Brittany Hobbs Senior Motion & Branding Designer: Christie Hauck Graphic Designers: Ness Cardano, Monica Ravitch Senior Manager, Channel & Strategy: Lizzy Jones Channel Operations Coordinator: Audrey Carganilla Director of Social Media: Erica Noboa Social Creative Producer: Peter Ditzler, Tommy Bowe Merchandising Manager: Mallory Myers Social Media Coordinator: Kim Wilborn Social Media Coordinator: Margaux Bernales Brand Partnership Manager: Chloe Mays Operations Manager: Selina Garcia Talent Coordinator: Danielle Moses People Operations Specialist: Katie Fink Front Office Assistant: Sara Faltersack CEO: Alessandra Catanese Executive Producers: Anthony Padilla, Ian Hecox EVP of Programming: Kiana Parker Coordinator Producer of Programming: Marcus Munguia Associate Producer, Special Projects: Rachel Collis Executive Assistant: Katelyn Hempstead OTHER SMOSHES: Smosh: https://smo.sh/Sub2Smosh Smosh Pit: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshPit Smosh Games: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshGames FOLLOW US: TikTok: https://smo.sh/TikTok Instagram: https://instagram.com/smosh Facebook: https://facebook.com/smosh

Hi, welcome to Smosh Mouth. I'm Shane. And I'm Amanda and we have a wonderful guest here with us today. She is the host of Spill Sush, Kristy. Hi. Thanks for having me, you guys. So excited. I'm so excited to be here. A funny thing is when you, when I found out you were coming on this podcast,

I thought it was so funny because for the past like few months, I have heard your voice every morning because my wife Courtney watches your show religiously. So every morning- I nearly just met her. Yeah, yeah. She's so great. She's such a fan. And so every morning I'll be downstairs getting,

I'll be in another room making breakfast or something and I'll just hear from the other room and she's like, Justin Bieber is back again. Like. Yeah, that's me. That's you. Wild. So excited.

So you originally had a YouTube channel called Spill Session. And then? Well, it was like, that was like my podcast-y channel. And then I just kind of left it be. You left it in the e-shirt. Now it's like shorts is on there, yeah. So now you're just Spill Sesh. Well, it started as this anonymous YouTube channel,

almost like Gossip Girl, where I talked about, mostly just influencers at first, because I felt like traditional media wasn't really covering the influencer space, taking them seriously. But now everyone, I feel like post-COVID, everyone is talking about influencers, like celebrities. Like they're the tabloids,

equally the same as like the Kardashian. They are celebrities. And they're- They are, people argue but- And they're messy. Yes. They're very messy. YouTubers are messy.

But they are celebrities. Influencers are definitely celebrities. Yeah, I mean they're going to the award shows, they have influence. It's, I think they're celebrities. It's controversial, but I think they are. I'm with you on that. And I just watched your most recent upload and I was.

You have to know something about me. And now you're clued in. Listen, I love people.com, which I know is so, so ridiculous and so different, but I watched yours and I was like, oh my God, why, why? Why am I doing people.com when I have it like perfectly succinct with all the pictures? And you're like, the way you report on things

is just so funny and so great and like facts. You like get right to it. You know sometimes people go on forever and they're like, what's, okay, so what's the heart of this? I try to get to the point because I'm like, that's what everyone's here for, right? I'm, you know, maybe like the most juicy is like at the end. But sometimes I'm like, everyone already knows,

especially if we're talking about a situation that's been talked about for so long, I'm like, all right, everybody already knows, like no summary, let's get to it. Yeah, I love it. So you're, so is it just a YouTube channel? You also do a pod. I had a pod back in the day.

Now I kinda have one. It's like every Sunday I post a video where I'm on camera, the videos are a little bit longer. It's more of a podcast style. And I'm recapping. That's not your tea cap. Yeah, that's the tea cap. I'm recapping the whole week of stuff I didn't make like an individual video about.

And then on like short form, I'm like doing content too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're doing tons of stuff. You just walked in, we just met you literally two months ago and we started recording. But you were saying you were up at 4 a.m. this morning to start watching stuff and getting the info. Yes.

I was. It's not always like that, but this day in particular, I was like, I need to watch Call Her Daddy. Right now, there is tea that is about to be dropping. And she'd been teasing it yesterday, and I made TikToks about it. So I knew, as soon as it dropped, I needed to post about it. And so when you watch it, you're getting everything

that you need to do. And then are you making a video right away and wanting to post it? I'm pretty much, I downloaded the podcast and I'm watching it in my editing software. So I'm cutting the important parts as I'm watching it and writing out my script of what I'm gonna say. Whoa!

And then I'll take it out, right before I'm about to record like my voiceover I'll be like, okay, like this isn't like as important I was like what's at the end of the podcast? So how many storylines are you following at like any given time because there's there's so many things So many I'm just like always on my phone But also I feel like I pay attention to this stuff and so do my friends that we're all talking about having conversations. So It's not like I'm really like

Seeking it out. It's already in your it's already in your ether. It's already in your world. You're already interested in it Yeah, because I know that this episode is gonna come out a little bit later. But currently it's like Jojo Siwa Kim K Haley Bieber that's like the vibes that are going on right now. So you're already kind of in it. Now, like, where do you normally, like, where do you, what do you? Yeah, but who's your source?

Yeah, wait, you don't have to reveal your sources. Who are your sources? I'm looking everywhere. Everywhere. Like, I mean, I scroll on TikTok, and my For You page is so catered to me that it just gives me stories sometimes. A video will have no views and I'm like,

I need to save this right now. It's gonna mean something in a couple of days. It's gonna fit into some story line somehow some way. Yeah, and you were talking about with influencers, but sometimes you're covering, like Justin Bieber, Hailey Bieber, that's not influencers. They're traditional celebrities. How do you determine, is it just,

oh, this is the story that everyone's talking about? Hailey Bieber feels influencer to me though, a little bit. Yeah, I mean, well, she's a celebrity, but she does do more influencer-y things, I guess. She has a YouTube channel. Her makeup's coming out in Sephora. She's big on social media. Can I ask a question?

Cause I've been pondering on this. What is an influencer? What is the classification for it? Because I don't think of us at Smosh as being influencers, right? But some people might put us in that category. But I think of us as like we're entertainers, we're comedians.

What is the difference? And I guess my thought with influencers is that they're trying to sell something. Is that they're working with, they work like more closely with like brands or something? I don't, I feel like influencers are people that like got big like on social media, but I feel like the terms are like changing and I heard someone like this week

like on threads, which I feel like is like an industry slack. Cause whenever I'm on it, it's just industry people that are on there. But they were saying, influencer is going out and it's creator. That's the term. Creator. Oh, yeah, it's creator.

So it's not really influencers. We don't really. Even though everyone uses influencers. But I guess creator defines a job. But I don't know, cause some people create content, but they're not necessarily like influencers where they're like going by this. They are just like making content.

They're like TikTokers that are like watching, like there's one that I'm obsessed with that. She's watching like an entire court case and like talking about, she's basically breaking down every day. She's like, I watch this so you don't have to vibes. I love those. Me too, I'm addicted. And I'm also like, she had day. She's like, I watch this so you don't have to vibes. I love those. Me.

I need those. I'm addicted. And I'm also like, she had one where she was like, I know I missed yesterday guys, it was my birthday. And I'm like, girl, go on your, go have a birthday. Forget your birthday, there's a court case. I was like, go, that, I think that's what's different is because like she's doing all these TikToks, right?

So there's no like, she's not really, I know she's editing her TikToks, obviously, but they're not full edits like yours. You have videos and pictures and you're pulling from places. So she could do it constantly, which I'm like, girl, go enjoy your birthday. It's like the easiest way to digest, especially the legal stuff. It gets so complicated. And there's so many terms. I'm like, even if I read the documents,

I don't know what's going on. Nope, nope. They're way easier. And she does it, they do it in such like a palatable way where it's like, it's, they, and what I love about most of them is like, they'll put their, they'll put their like comment on it, like their little like spin on it and have their opinion,

but that's not the main part of it. Like she gets to like, most of them get to the meat of it, which is I feel like a lot, there's some obviously that I'm sure you've watched a bunch where it's like fully their opinion the whole time. And there's not much that you can use with that. No, most of the time if I'm using clips, unless I'm specifically looking for people's opinions,

I'm looking for stuff like that, just to even get an understanding of what the heck is going on. Yeah, that makes sense. That'd be so stressful though to like be working a field where you're trying to get the facts right. I'd be so stressed, like you saw how we prepped for this, we just sit down and we go, all right, let's vibe.

Because we're not dealing with facts, there's no pressure there, we get to just hang out. But are you ever worried about like, okay, is this source correct? Because there's so many rumors out there. For sure, I feel like if I'm talking about something that's not 100%, I like say, this is like the rumor that's going around, so everybody knows, I don't know,

nobody seems to know, it's not like being confirmed anywhere and if it is, it's like from XYZ source and I'm not sure about it, unless the person like directly comes out and says something themselves, am I like 100%, this is what's going on? But I just try to source from like news sites and you know, what people are posting on social media and opinions and

Just let it know where it came from and what I think about it Yeah from what I've heard you really do stick to the facts like you're like this is what's being said This is what's happening. I don't feel like I've overheard you Sharing too much of just straight opinions. Yeah, I try really respect I try to keep it neutral or at least where at the end like people can kind of see like all the sides and then Right see how they feel because sometimes I'm just interested in knowing like what people think Yeah, after digesting all the information. Yeah, and sometimes I'm like, I don't even know what I think So it's kind of like when I know this this is kind of past news But I know it's gonna be coming up when the trial comes next year

Which is like the whole Blake Lively thing. And it's like, of course, you wanna know people's opinions on it. Cause that's the best part about that juicy gossip is like people's opinions on it. That's the best part. And people have very strong opinions about it. People have strong opinions.

And that's one where I'm like, I don't even know. Cause I've read like hundreds of the pages of the All of the court stuff. I mean, I think one of her amended lawsuits was like 800 pages or something I'm like going through reading this thing and I'm at the end like I don't even know what to think cuz you're reading documents from Both sides right and I'm just like What and the Taylor Swift thing you're just like, what? And the Taylor Swift thing, you're just like, okay. Oh, I know. The Taylor Swift of it all is so insane.

When I heard that, like, okay, so I hear about this, I like how I hear about this stuff. I hear about it third hand. So people here at the office get their sources, they have their sources like you, where they get all their info, and then they relay it to me. So I get a game of telephone,

where by the time I've heard it, I don't know what's happening. And he's always like, whoa. So Arasha is the Blake Lively source right now. Arasha is like, okay, let me catch up to speed on what's going on there. And then you and Angela are the Karen Reed trial sources. We're true crime people.

You're letting me know. I do love celebrity gossip so much, but I also go hard on true crime people. Like I do love celebrity gossip so much, but I also go hard on true crime. That's why I like go down these TikTok dives of the court cases. Sometimes that, I mean, the Karen Reed trial was last year and I watched the entire court, every minute of it. And I was like, okay, this is a lot

because it's just hours and hours and hours of endless information and going back and forth a million times. But like, yeah, and then we'll just tell Shane whether he likes it or not. He'll be like, good morning, and I'm like, good morning. So Karen Reed, second trial, and I used to tell you people.com stuff, but I'm like so fully, people, here's the thing.

That's just the- People.com just, yeah. Sometimes they post things like, woman took this pill and she lost a bunch of weight. Well you ended up on people dot com and they said your husband changes his hair a lot. I did. What? So I kept, obviously I'm pregnant.

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Let's get back to the show, daddy. Oh my God, don't cry, your dad will get the gift. No, I don't think about dad will get the gift My god you guys aren't close I'm not making any comments cuz that Blake Lively interview We're what I know it was on Fallon or Kimmel or something one of the jimmiesies, and he was like, congrats, something, and she was like, what bum? No, it wasn't. What are you talking about? It wasn't, it was a woman.

First of all, congrats on your little bump. Congrats on your little bump. What about my bump? You've got two nice ones. And these, they are kind of bumps, aren't they? No, not bumps. The lovely lady lumps. Check it out.

It was her? Oh, then she went. Yeah, she went. She did another one when she was very obviously pregnant and then she said it again and everyone was like, what's her deal? She was like, what bump? Yes, how about your bump?

I know. I'm like, stop. I saw that, I was like, that's a bummer. Listen, someone in Trader Joe's, a guy who was working was like, oh my God, you got a bun in the oven. And everyone's like, why did he say that? And I'm like, who cares?

It's fine. But could you imagine if I decided to fuck with him? Like, what bun in the oven? It would have been awful. I would never in a million years say anything. Like, because I've seen people out in public who are very pregnant. It's just like, but why comment on it, for one?

Yeah. But also, what if you're wrong? I know. I don't care. It's like, these people obviously were coming from a good place and she was pregnant. I know, I don't care. When people comment on it, I don't care.

I'm like, yeah, I'm pregnant. I always wonder with like late shows. Cause don't they, they pre-plan all that stuff. I think so. They know what they're talking about. They have a whole conversation, then they go, okay, here's what we're gonna talk about. No, that's where Blake Lively fucks with people.

This is the games she plays. That's the thing, that's my opinion on Blake Lively, she fucks with people. I can't keep up with like three of them, like three of the stories going on, cause I'll hear about the Blake Lively stuff, and I'll be like, all right, that's a bunch of new information from two days ago

when I last heard about it, and then someone will be like, yeah, well you know what Hailey Bieber's doing, and I'm be like, all right, that's a bunch of new information from two days ago when I last heard about it. And then someone would be like, yeah, well, you know what Hailey Bieber's doing. And I'm like, what's Hailey Bieber doing? And I hear, I'm like, this can't be real. This can't be real. It's real. Is the Hailey Bieber stuff real?

Here's Docker stuff. Okay, oh, watching Spillset, watching the most recent, watching one of the Spillset, listen, it's not about the girls anymore. It's not about Selena Gomez or Hailey Bieber anymore. We're thinking it's about Justin Bieber. We're like, what did this guy do to these girls?

Because they support each other. Is that where it's at? I watched her Spillsetch. Okay, that's new. That's new information for me. As of this week, everyone's like, you know what? I think it's like Justin that hates these girls. And it's not the girls that don't like each other.

Because we're done, okay? We're done with the witch hunt because here's the thing, Selena Gomez is fine if Hailey Bieber wants to put her product in Sephora. She hearted her thing, and I know this because I watched Phil Sush, and like, listen, the girls are supporting each other. Why are we never looking at the man?

That's a good question. I feel like my dad, when my dad walks in on halfway through a movie, he's like, so is that the bad guy? And you're like, not technically the bad guy. What's going on? He's like, got it. I will say, in the few snippets of seeing stuff, I saw stuff where they were talking about

Hailey Bieber and Justin Bieber, and they're like, oh my God, you can tell he hates her. And they show all these clips where she's like talking, he's just like, cool babe. And everyone's like, see? And I was like, have you never met a straight guy? I was like, this is like 90% of us. We're like, look at this amazing thing I did.

And the guy's like, sick babe. Yeah, you guys suck. He just, he doesn't help her. He's being a straight dude there. Not good, I'm not saying that's good. No, it's not. He doesn't help her ever. He slammed the door on dude there not good. That's good. No. It's not ever he Darn her a while ago, and we've all seen that clip he slammed the door and she was like

He told her that she would never be on the cover of Vogue. I'm like and she Wasn't she just mustn't yeah But like his congrats babe post was one time hills and I got into a fight And I told her that she would never be on the cover. And he was like, sadly I was mistaken. Could you imagine? Here's the thing. Sadly.

It's all Justin Bieber. Baby, baby, no. Listen, fuck you, Justin Bieber. No, I'm just kidding. I got served a, I think it was, was it Vogue or was it GQ? Who does the like, what's in my bag? Yes, she did the video. She did this, I got served this,

where she's like, these are the books I'm reading, and it was Nietzsche and Kant, like two philosophers, like, if you wanna read their books, eh, okay, good luck, have fun. But she was like, she's like, I've reread this so many times, and it was like, the works of Immanuel Kant, and I was like, either you're for real and okay,

or this is the funniest joke anyone's ever done. And she was trolling the whole video. and I was like, either you're for real and okay, or this is the funniest joke anyone's ever done. And she was trolling the whole video. That's pretty great, that's really funny. I liked it because she was like, oh this is like my favorite perfume, and it was like nepo on it, and then she pulled out like all these bones,

and she was like. It was Axe body spray. Yeah right. She's like, I got this from Justin. This is his favorite. Yeah she was trolling like that whole video. She was like I have all these phones you know for stalking and fake accounts.

She was calling everyone out in the comments. She was like I, she was basically saying like I read what you guys write and I think that she genuinely was like I'm gonna have a family, I'm gonna have a kid, and everyone's gonna stop. And it's like, no one's gonna stop. Do you think that they stopped Britney Spears? Like, no, no one ever stops.

And I feel like that's why, it's almost like Justin Bieber was, you know, an accomplished musician. And now he's like in this weird creator phase, even though he's not even, but it's like, cause he's like in this weird creator phase even though he's not even but it's like because he's in that world It's giving Kanye to me a little But I think it's He I don't know who he's working with right now

Because he's not with scooter anymore and he fired like his business manager. So I feel like he's like Kind of free for the first time ever. And so he's just like, I'm just gonna do whatever. And you know, when you're in the music making zone, you're just like, I'm so artistic, my vision, but no one sees it. Everyone's like, oh, you're crazy. Everyone's like, uh-oh.

I feel like that's what's going on. You're out of touch. Well, that's kind of what happens. There's a cycle. They start to get out of touch. Because they're done, they're done like, with all the hate and everything, and so they start to be like, oh fuck it.

Like, I'm going to be done. Kind of like what's happening with Britney Spears. But she got kicked off a plane because she lit up a cigarette recently. I did see that. Yeah, I don't know. Did you hear about that? I did not. I did not hear about that.

And she said sorry. Okay. And she said sorry. Okay. And she meant it. Okay. That's what she said. Um. Um. Oh, yeah, but anyways, I got on people pretty cool shit

because, not really. Like, Kevin Costner's not coming back for Yellowstone, you hear about that? He got fired. He got fired from Yellowstone? I thought he left. We're not sure. Something didn't happen

because he did that freaking Horizon movie that was not worth it. It was not worth it. Didn't he put his son in it? I don't know. See, we have all the information here at Small Show. There was like so many parts too. I saw the first part.

You did? Yeah, I watched the first movie. Was that two hours? It was so long. It was so, I mean, a couple fast forwarding moments because we were just like, what's going on? You were like, you want a horse? The ending was kind of like a montage of,

I think what's supposed to happen in the other movies, but they're not happening. So they just threw it in the ending. Oh, Kevin. Rough. It was rough. Yeah, I don't know if he got fired. I don't think he did, but they had creative differences, him and Taylor Sheridan.

And it was like- Yikes. Yeah, yikes. And I'm not going to spoil what happened. That'd be a really funny, like a tea YouTube channel, but you only talk about celebrities that are 70 plus. Wait. Whoa.

Oh my gosh. Don't give away that idea. That's pretty brilliant. What would it be called? Golden tea. No, it's, it's 70. Come on. 70.

70, okay, so this is why you're the professional. Get the fuck out of here. I'm the idiot. It's a golden bachelor. Yeah, golden bachelor, golden tea. Sorry. Old tea. Sorry. Old milk. Sorry.

Spilled old milk. Spilling milk. Spilling milk. Oh my God. Whoops. Okay, there is a celebrity I wanna talk about that I've been thinking about lately. Okay.

I think he's so funny. I wanna do an impression of him really bad. And I was going through some of your videos and I saw you talked about him because I think it's really funny that the internet kinda hates him. It doesn't hate him, but they're just like ragging on him a lot

because he hasn't done anything too problematic. Can you guess who it is? This is Benson. It's Benson Boone. This guy is so funny. Flips? Yes! Of course.

So I realized something. Benson is booning. I've come up with a theory here. That he likes to flip? This is related to another celebrity who I think was the previous version of Benson Boone. Oh, who? Okay, let me get into this.

Okay, all right. So I've come up with a little dilemma, a PR dilemma, and I call it the backflip dilemma, right? So you can do a backflip, cool thing, right? So cool. It takes a lot of work to be able to do a flip, right? And people will respect you and like you if you can do a flip.

Here's the problem. If you can do a back flip or a front flip, you can't do it though. Because if you do it too often, you start to lose coolness, right? Because it comes across desperate. This is what's happening to Benson Boone and this is what happened to Taylor Lautner.

Did too many flips. Youner. Did too many flips. You can't do too many flips. You gotta save the flips. We forgot about Taylor Lautner. You gotta save the flips. It happened to him. And it's like, hey, you be able to do a flip, doing it by surprise, you're a jock, you're cool, whoa,

awesome, don't do too much, you're a dork. Well, we blacked that out of our memory because after Twilight it got so awkward because she never chose him, obviously. And so after Twilight we went, where'd you go buddy? And I think he did like one like, was it eagle light? No, he did like one weird... I know what you're talking about. He did the action abducted, right? Abducted. Random stuff. It was random and then he did flips and then they cut him from...

He did too many flips. They edited him out. He's not even in any of the Twilight's. They released him and I don't know, he's not even there. They edited him out. They had George Lucas re-edit them without him. It's just a weird wolf guy. But Benson Boone is so funny because I saw a TikTok of him

like a year or so ago and he does the thing where he did a front flip off like a piano onto like the lower stage. And I remember being in that moment like, look, I have my insecurities. I remember just being like, wow, that guy is so cool and I'll never be that cool. Cause I can't do that. But then I saw a couple more flips and I was like,

hey man, you gotta, your manager, someone needs to be like, hey cool it on the flips. Are you gonna be known as flip guy? And the jumpsuits, they're getting really high up, high up. Like, are his balls okay? When he does the flips. He said they weren't.

One time, I think it was the Grammys, maybe, he was wearing one that was really tight, and he was like, you guys, it hurt. Yeah, I saw. Yeah. It sliced through them. I was like, bro. I saw. I was like, bro. I saw, I was like, Benson.

It's like when you're on a rollercoaster and you're like, oh. I was like, Benson, something's slicing. And it doesn't look good. Oh no. And he's like, what? What do you think about Benson, bro? And you're suddenly like, he's actually my favorite person.

I really hate this. He has a great voice. There is just so much being said about him. I like his music is the thing. I like his mystical, magical, moonbeam ice cream. Yeah. All I hear is, please, please.

If we get copyright struck for that, no way. Come on. You hit it too hard. Benson's gonna be scrolling, he's gonna be like, uh-uh, uh-uh, and he's gonna do a flip, sit on his tippy toes and copyright strike. Play piano on his little feet. I've been seeing the tippy toes stuff too.

The tippy toes, that's the thing, there's so much being said about him that I'm like, no, no, no, I think you need a little, we need a little less of you or something, just for a little while. Because some people were starting to compare him to JoJo Siwa. I know.

Ooh, ooh, ooh, that's gotta hurt. Construction hat and construction boots, yikes. Because they were saying the costumes and the onstage presence is different than when he's offstage because there's pictures of him on his Instagram where he's at home and he's just in a t-shirt and cargos and everyone's like, that's not the same guy

that's super colorful on stage. And then there is- But is he supposed to wear them at home? I think they were like, he doesn't have style. He's just kind of- He's like a character. He's touching in the Harry Styles vibes, right, and he's like, maybe a little JoJo Siwa.

He also has the mullet mustache combo. He does. He's kind of firing it all cylinders right now. Guys, he was on American, he did American Idol. He was on American Idol? Oh, yeah. Is that when he got his start? Yes.

Well, when he got his start, he just looked like a hometown boy. Yeah, he did. Well, that's all he is. They were saying he's just like not authentic boy. Yeah, he did. Well, that's all he is. They were saying he's just like not authentic, which is why people aren't connecting with him and like hating on him a bit.

But then, and then it's like religions getting involved. People are like, I hear the Mormonism in the songs, which I'm like, okay, what does that even mean? Is he a Mormon? He, what, he's taking a break. Oh, he's taking a break and zipping up. His suit. He's taking a break and zipping it. His suit. He's taking a break and zipping it up.

He's putting it on pause. He's putting on pause. You know when you do that? Yeah, you put Mormonism on pause and you zip up and get your gear up. The flips are so Mormon coded. I'm like, okay. That's so funny.

They're kinda like church. A Mormon flip? They're like church vibes. You're so right. And he's dating someone, right? He is. Who's he dating? I think her name is Maggie.

He does mention Jesus in a song he wrote about her. He's like, the only love you've ever known is Jesus, I think is the line in the song. So he's comparing his girlfriend to Jesus. I'm just kidding. You don't get to see it, but when he's doing the flip, he does this. Yeah, he's doing his girlfriend to Jesus. I'm just kidding. You don't get to see it, but when he's doing the flip, he does this. Yeah, super quick.

That's what it is. Wait, has he done backward? I think he only does forward. I think I'm wrong. I think he only does front flips. Taylor Lautner did back flips. And that's what got him done. But I think the same physics PR stuff applies.

It does damage your reputation. I forgot about those slips. The flips, nobody's talking about the flips. How could you forget? Because I saw your video and you're like, people are trying to figure out why they don't like them. I'm like, it's the flips, man. It's because it's too much.

It's too many flips. Everybody knows this, like, you remember in elementary school, it was either the person who does flips and they just find a reason to do flips. Or there's the person who can sing really well, but they find every opportunity to sing. To sing. And you're like, we get the person who can sing really well, but they find every opportunity to sing. And you're like, we get it, you can sing really well,

but when you do it all the time, it's not special. You have to be someone different. You have to be like Lady Gaga, who would like, remember when she first kind of started and she played the piano all crazy? And that was like her thing? Lady Gaga did it so well. It's kind of weird to think about how much she did

and it never felt like. Because she always switched it up and she didn't care. I think it was also like that's who she is. That's who she is. Cause also like no one's really calling out Harry Styles. They're like he's authentically just being himself. In his like off time, like but there was that picture that went viral of him

like recently where he's in these like really, really short shorts and like his legs across and everyone's like, what? Harry? Harry, is that you? So I'm like, you know, that's how he is offstage now. Benson just needs some short shorts. Benson needs to commit fully.

You either need to stop doing back flips or you need to do them all the time. If he had short shorts, let his balls just breathe, man. That could be a thing. It's like, hey, look, gym coach is aesthetic, right? Just go. You know with the stash, he just needs the headband, and suddenly he's one of those old gym teachers.

Yeah. You're so right. Go for that. That's honestly a little creepy, though, where they have the suspenders. So you guys want him to be like Jim Cota, where he sits, and he balls him about? I'm just pitching ideas.

I'm not a PR rep. So who else? OK, so like Benson Boone and JoJo are kind of on that. Is there anyone else currently that's like in that space that we're like, uh-oh, if you do that one more thing? Well, JoJo's in that space because she cheated on her partner.

She cheated on her partner on public TV. I think she's been. Am I wrong? That whole story is so crazy to me. And She's been in that space. She cheated on her partner on public TV. I think she's been. Am I wrong? The whole story is so crazy to me, and it's unfolding as we speak. This is once again, I'm hearing about this from like. This is Big Brother? She was on Celebrity Big Brother UK.

With the. Chris Hughes, he's from Love Island, and JoJo went on with a partner, and then throughout the show, she's getting really close with Chris and everyone's like, you guys are cuddling, forehead kisses, back scratches, you're in the bed together, you're in the hot tub together,

it's getting a little intimate. If I was your partner, I'd be pretty upset. Yeah, right. And then she gets off the show and she's like, oh, we're just friends. But her and her partner break up. And the partner gets online and is like, I thought, maybe, hopefully, everyone online was just getting it wrong

and we were going to get back together. And JoJo was going to be like, it was all for the show. It was all entertainment. But I got dumped at the wrap party. Whoa! At the wrap party? At the wrap party?

She was there? That's a rough place to get dumped. She flew 24 hours, because she lives in Australia. She flew 24 hours to go get dumped. I think JoJo had gotten the ticket before, yeah, JoJo bought Kath a plane ticket, I think prior to the show ending.

Oh, because they were like, oh, we're together. Yeah, you'll be at the finale. So that's pretty messed up, not to break up with your partner at that distance and then let them fly across the page. 24 hours. 24 hour flight? 24 hour flight.

Apparently, I was like, whoa. Were they on the moon? Oh, you wish. You imagine JoJo Siwa's dating someone on the moon. Let's. I mean, I can see it. I can believe that. Oh my god.

Don't even get me started with Katy Perry. That was also really funny. That's my favorite type of celebrity gossip, is when a celebrity does something just cringe. Right? It's not like problematic on like an extreme level. It's like, oh, one for mankind. Yes, it felt like we got the Imagine video again.

She was like, oh God, yeah. It gave Imagine video vibes. It did. And it was like, Gail King, which, listen, all these videos make me laugh. When they kissed the ground, I was like, nobody made you go. No, nobody made you go. Thank God we're back. Gail kissed the ground, I was like, nobody made you go. No, nobody made you go.

And also, thank God we're back. The king was like, I was having a really good time. Every clip of hers was like, ugh, she rings the bell, she's like ugh. Miserable. And Oprah's like, my friend, no. And it's like, Oprah, she's choosing to do this. She's not saving the world, this is an Armageddon.

Yeah. Like, they all are deciding to do this, and it was 11 minutes, right? Something of the sort. It was really short. I couldn't believe it. I honestly, when they first announced this, I thought, oh, okay.

I think I just thought that they were part of something way bigger than what it actually was. They thought that too. Yeah, they did too. When I found out they were only there for a few minutes, I was like, what the heck? Katy Perry's like, I was the first person to announce their tour set list in space.

I was like, wow. And her tour is going so well currently. I'm loving the clips of her being like, and she's got these like, The dancing is wow. She's got these like space people who are like, oh, and she's like, oh space people who are like, and she's like, oh, it's the weirdest clips.

What was it, did she have like a flower or something? What did she have, like she was like doing like selfies. She brought a daisy because her daughter's name is Daisy. You're up in space, you get to go to space for 10 minutes, right? Which is incredible. Yeah. And you choose to film content,

like you're doing a selfie video. I'm like, we're so cooked. They asked her to sing one of her songs and she refused because that's not what the mission was about. Guys, we're here for space. What was their mission? Was it like a legitimate mission? To get blowouts, first of all.

Their mission was to get Brazilian blowouts. Let's be real. To get cinched suits. Yes! Cinched, like Taylor's literally, they were like, they corseted those space suits. Our mission is to be snatched and to slay. No, honestly, to slay space, that was the goal.

And they did. That was their mission, and to take a bunch of selfies with the moon in the background. Yeah, it was just space tourism. Like you could pay to go tomorrow if you want right yeah And so that was this more for that space tourism this was like advertising probably for them Yeah, cuz it was Amazon's like big thing wasn't it? I think Jeff Bezos is space tourism Company rocket yeah something of the sorts The future villain 500 years from now. Yeah, exactly.

500 years from now. He sent his wife up there. His wife went on the trip, but this was the first time that it was gonna be all females going, but they had a bunch of people that had gone prior to this, but this was all female, so then it became like this really big spectacle because of that, which Gail tried to defend.

She was like, no one's saying this when the men have gone, but it's like, okay, but no one was making it this big of a deal where people actually knew what it was. But it wasn't like fricking Aerosmith or famous rock stars going up there. It was like, scientists, wasn't it? I just, I don't know. I think it was, there were like rich celebrities.

I think it's Snow, you're right. I think Ashton Kutcher almost went, but Mila Kunis told him not to do it. I think, wasn't a lot of the criticism, it's like we're trying to pitch this as being like this big benevolent thing, but it's still like at the heart of it, it's like yeah, we don't love that like

people with enough money can leave the planet is like the future emphasis of this. I don't know. I think if it wasn't Katy Perry, I think if it was like. I just think it felt like Imagine, where it's like guys, we're doing something really special. It's like, no, you're not.

You're all still rich people just going to space. It felt like The Boys, right? It was, that was... Allegedly the long-term goal is to try and like, get more research to potentially live in space. I think that is the goal. More billionaires to live in space, I think that is the goal. So it's like each, yes. It's like each trip is for research purposes,

but the people inside, it's not always because they're involved in that field. Yeah. I see. Yeah. That makes sense. I definitely saw, I saw them getting, made fun of on the internet too,

because at some point in an interview, they're like, yeah, we're astronauts. And people were like, no, you're not. I couldn't. Me in the waiting room of a hospital, I'm a doctor, because I'm here. Those clips had me in tears. It was like, so Katie, you're an astronaut.

She was like, that was crazy. What a journey. What a journey. 11 minutes. I was like. We went astronaut. She was like, what a journey. What a journey. 11 minutes. We went up and it was like, were we gonna come back? And it was like, yeah, you were and you did. And you kissed the ground. When I sang extraterrestrial,

I never thought I was singing about myself. Yeah. But I was. I can't. She's like, I'm the dark horse. I'm the dark horse. It's crazy. And listen, I like Katy Perry's music.

She genuinely is that person. She's always been that person. She always goes above and beyond. Remember when she did the Super Bowl and she came out on like a lion or some shit? Look, she's providing content for the masses. We can't deny that. Yeah, she's great.

Is it what she thinks she's making? I don't know. I just can't stand when people take it so over the top. The whole thing was over the top. It was so over the top. That's why they got so much backlash, but. It did. And also, don't you have to train?

Did they train? I don't know for the 11 minute ride, right? Because I know if you're going to space, well, because those other astronauts were stuck in space for eight months. And it's like, so they get back and they're like, oh, was your mission hard? Yeah.

Oh, you had a tough mission? Yeah, they like left their family. They weren't even sure they were going to come back. How long were you guys in space? Oh, 11 minutes? Whoa. Whoa, eight months. Kissing the ground.

I missed my daughter's ballet performance 17 times. Like, hey, isn't in the movies, like the 90s movies, This is my daughter's ballet performance 17 times. Hey, isn't in the movies, like the 90s movies, don't they have to train, don't they have to go underwater? I thought they did. But they also have to keep that ship operating, right? Like the astronauts that were up there for eight months. But I thought it was just even to be able to move around like the pressure breathing.

You have to train. They're just built like that. I don't know. They train for a couple days. Oh. They train for a couple days. A couple days? They train for a couple days. Zero gravity. Oh.

I want... Me before a half marathon. Yeah. Don't worry, I'm gonna go for a run today. Hey, babe, I'm going out for a run. Be back in 20. Like, I just, I guess I wanted the training. I wanted their hair to be like, up.

I wanted them to be ready to go. But yet it was like, it was like a Medi Spa picture. It was like a billboard for it's like hair. It was like Chaz Dean's hair. Do you guys know who Chaz Dean is? That sounds familiar. Ugh. Maybe there's just one part in Hollywood

where he has one billboard. He's that famous hair stylist. I know who you're talking about. In LA, there's billboards everywhere for like. Do you know who he is? I don't think so. He's this hairstylist who's been around forever. And he looks like a lion.

Like he has long, gorgeous hair. Like maybe. But his billboards are so. He has a billboard like in the middle of Hollywood. Yeah. And it's him just like. I must have seen. And the girls are always like. And it's him just like. I must have seen. And the girls are always like.

And it feels, it felt very much like the mission. There are so many billboards around LA. There are. And they are, they're wild. That's Chaz Dean. Chaz Dean. Look at him. Look at him.

Majestic. Oh, he is such a diva. Sent him to space. He's such a diva. That's how their hair should have been. Yeah, exactly, perfect. But yet it was a little like, you straightened that a lot. Those ends.

Yeah. Sorry, okay, we're done talking about the Katy Perry because I went on a tangent when it was happening. Done, done talking about it. So is there anyone that you like, is there like a celebrity that you love that you're like, oh my God, I love reporting on this person, they're so funny, I love everything they do.

I mean, I feel like everyone that I talk about I'm like paying attention to because I do like them. Like I like Justin, I like Haley, I like them together. I like paying attention, I like keeping up with the Kardashians. I love Taylor Swift. So her involvement in this, Justin and Blake, I'm like, oh my gosh.

And then yesterday, I'm like reading about how there was and then yesterday, I'm reading about how there was this whole thing a couple weeks ago where Taylor was getting subpoenaed in the Blake and Justin case. I heard about that. Yep. And if I'm hearing about it, it's crazy. Blake called her her dragons. Yes, and apparently, so then Justin's lawyer

was saying that Blake, he had gotten a phone call from someone close to Taylor that said Blake was threatening to release like their text messages if Taylor did not post that she supported Blake. And this was like apparently post Super Bowl, she didn't go to the Super Bowl with Taylor but she wanted everybody, the public to know Taylor supports me. So she's like, can you post? And so Brian Friedman, which is Justin's lawyer,

was like, I got a call that this 100% happened. And Blake also wanted her to delete text messages. So I was like, what does that even mean? She's gonna release text messages, but then delete the text messages? And then he doubled down. He signed this, he was under a penalty of perjury. This is 100% the truth that I got this call.

And then I'm reading this week that it was her dad, he apparently was her dad, Taylor Swift's dad, allegedly was the one that phoned up Brian Freeman and was like, but he said it was because then they would take the subpoena away. Doesn't she not have the best relationship with her dad? It's some weird- I think she does, but then there's business stuff

that's happened, but they're on good terms. I feel like you name a celebrity and it's like, are they on good terms with their dad? Probably not. Probably not, probably not. You could bet most of them. Wow. Young ones crazy.

This is what drives me crazy is how can a lawyer reveal that before? I thought they had to keep everything that they were bringing to the court case secret. I think it's because the paperwork is public. Got it. He is also just very public. He's done like a lot of interviews,

but these papers were like submitted and it's public. So do we have any update on like what Taylor Swift's decision is? I think she's out now. She's out, she's done. So do we have any update on what Taylor Swift's decision is? I think she's out now. She's out, she's not. She's like, I'm not releasing anything and I'm not posting. Yeah, I think because, I don't know,

something about this information or whatever, I don't think she's gonna be involved. I don't know. I don't know. It gets a little too legal there. But I don't think that they are, her and Blake Lively are friends anymore. There's like no way.

I saw, they said that Travis Kelce unfollowed Ryan Reynolds. So I was like, oh, that's gotta be something. Can you fucking believe it? Can you fucking believe it? He didn't win the Super Bowl and he unfollowed Ryan Reynolds. Who's gonna watch Deadpool? Nobody. Who's gonna watch it? That. Who's gonna watch it?

That's the only fan they have. It's so funny how, cause I don't keep up with the celebrity stuff as much, but I watch football and when the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce stuff started, the football world got all into it. It was so interesting. Of course. I love it.

They got so hooked. I'm watching Kansas City games. I know, right? Go Kansas City, hell yeah. Yeah, guys. Ice Spice is there. Very cool. Taylor Swift is there.

We love Kansas City. We love that. I love football. When they didn't win the Super Bowl, we were like, what the fuck? Devastated. Shane didn't want Kansas City to win. I fear like no one in the football world is like,

except if you're in Kansas City, was like definitely not rooting for them. They were like, we don't want, but I will say it made the Kelsey Brothers, Kelsey? Yeah. Yeah, well done. The Kelsey Brothers podcast blow up. Yeah.

They do a podcast together. And then they're partners. He's very entertaining. Yeah. He's also great at what he does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his brother's very entertaining. He's very entertaining. Yeah, he's also great at what he does Yeah, and his brother's awesome, too. I love Jason Wow. Yeah, Jason Kelsey's the man. Oh my god his wife She's a highly yes Yeah, yeah, oh my god, and she's a massive was she was a sports player too. Am I wrong? Yeah. Yeah, she was a huge sports player anyways

So wild. There was something, going back to you, because we're talking about all the celebrity gossip, but something that was fascinating to me is you were a anonymous faceless YouTuber for a long time. Like that's where you got your start. I pulled up a, I saw a Time Magazine article where it was like around like 2023

when you were like, oh, revealed who you are. What made you decide to reveal your face? It was honestly really impulsive because I never thought I was gonna do it, but then I was like, well, to kind of just expand and do more things, it kind of felt like the only option. I was like, everything's going so well,

but I'm only really doing one thing, and I'm like, I kinda wanna diversify the content that I'm making, get more creative. So I was like, all right, let's do this thing. Was it so scary? Yes, I was sitting there with the video for a month. We had filmed it, and I wasn't gonna post it for a month, and that day, I was just like,

okay, I guess I'm gonna make it public. I was freaking out, I was like, all right. I don't know how the heck this is gonna go. It's scary. And I also didn't tease it at all. I was just like, I'm just gonna do it. Yeah. I kinda like that.

Are you ever scared, I mean, if you're a good person you don't have to worry about it, but like are you ever scared about like, what if I end up in like drama? What if I, like, I mean, if you're a good person, you don't have to worry about it, but are you ever scared about what if I end up in drama? Or just people wanting to know more information about your personal life, is that ever a scary thought for you? Because deal with it sometimes, you know?

I think before the face reveal, yes. I thought about it all the time. And honestly, I was more paranoid about it before, because I had my whole identity to hide Yeah, like if people found out about me and I also feel like when you're anonymous people are more curious So like they're like it's a secret. Yeah now You would like think I'd be like more worried, but I'm just like, okay

Well interesting and to people do people see you in see you out in public and they're like, oh. It's happened, not often, but like I did go to the Trisha Paytas live show and people were like, oh my gosh. Whoa. And I was like, what the heck? Was that so bizarre? I was like, what the heck is going on?

I'm like, I can't even believe people watch my videos, so. Your videos are so great though. Cause you're also a, you are sometimes a cohost on that show, am I right? Just Trish? I did co-host once, yeah. OK, cool. Was that like, was it fun?

It was so fun. I was like, she DM'd me that Oscar was going to be out of town and I was so excited. I was like, I love watching her podcast and just followed Trisha for so long and covered her and the whole journey. So I'm like, all right, like I'm super game. Yeah, and you couldn't have done that

before your face reveal. Like you, because, so, okay, when you didn't reveal who you were, your friends knew. Yeah. And family. And they had to, were you kind of on them all the time of like, don't? Not really. I mean, I guess it was just hard

like when we would go out and people would be like, so what do you do? I'm like, oh, right, right. Accountant. Just a freelance journalism, it's, yeah, we don't need to get into it. Uh-huh, right. And my parents had no idea what to say

about what their kid did. Of course, of course. They don't, they. They still, I mean I mean, they don't know what to say. They're still trying to figure it out. They're like, yeah, she does stuff on the internet. I'm like, mom! Then it starts to sound like OnlyFans. No, literally, my uncle went, are you on OnlyFans?

No way. Yes, last year. And my sister was like, no, can we just, and he was like, you want OnlyFans? And I'm like, yeah, can we just, and he was like, you want only me? And I'm like, yeah, we gotta stop saying internet stuff. It just doesn't sound right. Internet stuff. What's your uncle using the internet for?

That's the good question. I don't know. If internet stuff immediately becomes. And the fact that he knew about OnlyFans, I was like, I don't wanna know. And I don't wanna go down that path. That's probably smart. Feet stuff, who knows?

Okay, well, all right. My brain goes there, yeah. It's when you're like being secretive about internet stuff that's when it starts to be like, what do you do? You must be on some other part. Exactly, but it's like, but essentially I would call you like a journalist,

like a reporter. You're a journalist, yeah. I did work at TMZ before this. Whoa! That's wild. I didn work at TMZ before this. Whoa! That's wild. I didn't know that. You were in that bullpen? But like, I didn't write for the site. I just scrolled Instagram all day long

and collected pictures, so that was my job. I started as an intern, and then I was in the photo galleries department. Okay, so you found all the photos and kind of sent them to the editor to kind of like... So we had like a mini department was just like three people it was like me this other girl and our boss and then we would just like scroll Instagram and be like okay this person on vacation and this person posted this picture and then we'd be like okay which one you want on

the site tomorrow. That's fascinating. So you were kind of like seeing where they were at like the updates on them. Yeah like just like what was like current photo-wise. And when did you, like when were you like, oh I wanna actually write about this, or I have a lot of things to say about this, like when was that? I mean, it was mostly just, I think like, well I started my channel in 2018,

and it was mostly because I saw faceless videos on YouTube of people talking about influencer news. It was just like text on the screen at the time and I was like, oh, I could totally do that. And I loved YouTube. So I was always watching YouTubers. I'm like, if people care about their lives like I do, this will be great.

And then I just kept it up. Now I talk about celebrities and influencers, but at the time it was like mostly just YouTube drama. So that's kind of where it began. It had like nothing to do with like what I was doing at work. I was just like, okay, like maybe I could talk about YouTubers.

And that was just a side thing? Yeah, it was just my side thing. Wow. Holy crap. And at that time TMZ was not covering YouTubers at all. No. They missed Dear Sister entirely. It was like, I remember a little,

maybe they covered the Tati, James, Coachella, gummy situation, but it wasn't like how they would like today. Right. Interesting. Does TMZ still do Just Celebrities too? Don't they also do Influencers now? Yeah, they talk about Influencers now. Like I thought they did like

Remy Ashton's Vegas bachelorette party. I was like, who, who? Cause that was like my job, like to make the photo gallery. So I was like, who is doing that right now that like likes Remy? Cause I know that's why that was pitched. And I know some people were like, she paid them. I was like, she didn't pay them.

Someone that works there just like must like her and be like, someone else is going to like her too. Right, because people, people definitely probably pay TMZ. I don't think so, not that I know of. Something I learned, it was like, after a few years, was like, oh, people do pay paparazzi to show up places to get photos, right? Like that is a thing.

That's the thing, I don't know. But I also think paparazzi does show up unannounced a lot too. I think that they can call. But OK, so there's different paparazzi websites that individual paparazzi guys are usually freelancers. And they will just go to all of these locations and sell whatever content they get to these sites.

And sites like E or People or TMZ will buy these videos from these websites. Interesting. And you would, this is like, you would never be interested in going to specific places and actually interviewing reporting style. Would you be interested in that? Or is it more enjoyable to gather and then make your video?

It is sometimes more fun or like less stressful to just like sit at home and gather. But I've definitely been there where I'm like on the carpet and like interviewing stuff. That was like, in my like TMZ days, I did that like freelance on the side. Did you like that? I did, it was fun, it was exciting,

but definitely like stressful. Yeah. I could never. I would find it very stressful. I feel like I like fun, it was exciting, but definitely like stressful. Yeah. I could never. I would find it very stressful. I feel like, I like like kind of interviewing people, but like I would find that very stressful because I always feel like I'm like taking away from people's like enjoyment. I'm like, hey, get over here buddy.

I had this experience the other night, I went to an Apple TV FYC event for like their Emmy consideration. Nice. And it was for the studio. I don't know if you guys are watching. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So.

Stressful show. It was, it's so stressful but it's so good and like so true to the industry. But because all the Emmy voters are there, they're like, the cast is like prepped that they're gonna be talking to all the people that are in attendance right and I had gone to a previous event that Monday for Netflix's the four seasons Oh nice, you know phase show actually watched all of it. It's so good

I saw the first three and then yeah. Yeah. Yes, they did after the movie and I love the cast so such a good and At that event there's like a meet-and- after. And I'm like, what's going on? I'm like, what? There's like a line for each actor in the show. And they're all taking like selfies and stuff. I'm like, what? And so then I'm at the Apple event,

and it's, they're prepping for it to be like the same way. I'm like, this just must be how the FYC events go. What? So I get like, this just must be how the FYC events go. What? So I get there, they wanted like me and like a couple other creators to get there early. So we could like film the space because they have severance stuff. I was so stoked.

Cool. And stuff from like the other shows. And then they're like, all right, you guys should stand right here. The cast is gonna come in and like we're gonna grab them for you guys. I'm like, what? Whoa, okay.

I'm like, okay, sure. And then they start to come in and I'm like, she's like, oh, he Ike, like here we have some creators. I'm like, Sal Saperstein, if you guys watch this, you'll know. I was freaking out, but like we're taking pictures with them. They're like, the woman that's working at Apple, so nice. She's like, do you want me to intro you to this person?

Catherine O'Hara's right here. Seth Rogen, did you get the video? Did you get the picture? And as we're like, I'm standing like this close to Seth Rogen and everyone is like, Seth, Seth, Seth, this is my wife, she's a writer, I'm an executive. So great, we love the show and can we get a picture? Like, oh, my wife's right there, can we take a picture?

I was like, I feel like I'm at the zoo. And it's one of those things where I'm like, I feel so bad, because he's just like. Oh, but. And I'm like, but he knows, she's like, she's telling me they know they need to be nice because these are the Emmy voters. But then like, part of me, I'm like,

I feel so bad being like, hey, you're an animal at the zoo, can I get a picture too? But it's like. I feel too guilty asking anyone for anything. It was so scary, but then bad being like, hey, you're in Animal at the Zoo, can I get a picture too? But it's like, what? I feel too guilty asking anyone for anything. It was so scary, but then I'm like, I have the people from Apple invited me, I'm like, I need to post content about this tomorrow, so I'm like, I need it, but I feel so bad.

I feel like that's the new, they must have told them, you guys need to do this. Yeah, I mean, we asked them after, so they know, they're like, yeah, like they know this is the situation. They're doing their job there. It's totally different. It's not the same red carpet shit. I still feel too bad.

I can't. It was wild. They're like, hey, you wanna get a photo with him? I'm like, I'm good. Like, I don't wanna bother him. It was just so crazy, like the room was filled with people and everyone was just like, hey. Hey, hey.

It was crazy. And they're probably not used to that because I feel like, you know, back in the day, they would just go to the red carpets, there was like specific rules, and now it's totally different. Like TikTok, Instagram, it's like free game. It's different.

And it's actually very smart that they're told to like be more open to like getting photos and talking to different people. Well, that's how you promote stuff nowadays. I mean, you know, they're trying to get the Emmy votes. So it makes sense that they're like, they have to be nice to all these people and say yes to all these pictures.

Oh my god. It was just so wild to watch and I was so honored to just be in the room and observe all the industry people and see how the process goes. Wow. Yeah. And was everyone pretty sweet? Or were they like, did they seem kinda stressed? Everyone was so nice. And I everyone like pretty sweet or were they like,

did they seem kind of stressed? And Aikouple's South Saperstein was the best. He was so excited to be there and I loved that, I loved the energy. So amazing, oh my God. So you knew early on like that this was what you wanted to do? Somewhere in the journalism field,

like ever since high school, because I was super into it in high school. Did you work for the, what's it called, the school newspaper and stuff? Did you do that? We had a broadcast program, and it was a little too intense that honestly, I think we all have a little trauma from it.

It was like the newsroom. Yes, and it was intense. We did competitions. You did news competitions? Yeah. We have the news today. It's like, did competitions. You did news competitions? Yeah. We have the news today. It's like, no, we have the news today,

the TV screens. Yeah, my god. Yeah, we traveled to different states and did competitions. And it was crazy. Either we'd do a news show, an entire news show, in 16 hours. It was called Sweet 16.

Or they would give you a prompt and you'd have to do a whole new story on it, and for a while I thought 60 minutes type of content, that's what I wanted to make, like it's my dream job. So somewhere in the realm, that's where I wanted to land. Which I get that, that makes sense,

because to me 60 minutes is like, oh my God, journalism. But journalism has changed. It's totally morphed, and you're kind of going with it. And on weekends, you release a video that's about 60 minutes, so, hey. Jesus Christ. Go now, that was cool.

Just go, just go. Built up for that joke. Help us all. But you do release a video every weekend. T-cap. That's an interesting, is that like the journalism dream job? Is that like SNL for journalists, 60 minutes? I saw like the Diane Sawyer of it all. Like that's kind of-

Dateline. I guess it depends like what- What realm of it. Because at the time it was like Julianne Rancic if you like wanted to be an entertainment user like Ryan Seacrest. it was like the dream job. And now it's like those jobs kinda don't exist anymore, like a lot of influencers are doing

the red carpet coverage. That's kinda like the same with sketch comedy, how it's changed. When I started acting, it was like SNL, that's it for comedy. And now it's like, there's so much more in like the internet sphere. So it's fascinating. Well that's what happens when you,

like when you can record yourself, you can like make so many things. That's why it's like, when I go down those deep dives with those TikTokers and I love it, I'm like, oh, like journalism is totally different now. Like there's people who like work in these, you know, big studio places and they're gathering and they're editing. And it's like, she just did all that on her own on our TikTok.

And I'm watching it and I'm loving it. How like quick it can be like on your phone. And people don't always want like the whole big, like it took them a couple of days type of deal. Do you have, do you work with a team that helps you like find out what the next thing is? Like you said you were like, did Caller Daddy, like you were waiting for some information.

I should. You're one, you're doing your own thing. You're sitting there like, I need that. It's like me and like my friends will text me and be like, oh my gosh, did you see this? And I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got sources. Someone sent me yesterday a DM and they were like, you need to see this. And I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone sent me yesterday a DM and they were like,

you need to see this. And I was like, I just posted a TikTok. Like I was, they were like, oh my gosh, I like just had a vision. Like you needed to see this. That's so funny. Your friends all know. Yeah, or they're into it too.

Yeah. And so they'll like tell you. Yeah. But if you had someone helping you. It would be great. I'd love it. I mean, it's just amazing how much content you do and how much you have to gather. You upload every day, pretty much? Like, you upload something every day. That's wild! That's insane.

And then you're, okay, so then your t-cap is like, how would you describe that? It's like, because I watched it, is it like the week, the whole weekly thing that's been going on without any updates? Yeah, it's usually like, on Sundays, I'll post like a t cap of like small stories that I like didn't make a full video on. So it'll be like Alex Rowland, Dancing with the Stars. Doesn't need a full deep dive. But like I'll throw it in there. And then sometimes like just more like silly stories

or updates, small updates, like things that don't need like 10 minutes plus. Interesting. Right, okay, so like little snippets. Yeah, like throw like five or so stories together for like Sunday. We're just talking about dancing with stars. Can you ever take a break? I definitely take breaks, like this past weekend,

I like didn't really work, but it's cause like. And look at all that happened. It's like. And we didn't know. And we missed it. Sorry guys, I didn't know. And we missed it. Sorry guys, I wasn't there. And Justin Bieber got away. My birthday. But nobody would have known

cause it's like Monday through like Thursday. I was just like making a ton of content so that like the rest of the weekend I like had stuff that I posted. But if something urgent comes up. Did you predict what was gonna happen? You were like, okay. Sometimes I feel like I can a little bit.

I'm sure you can. Here's what Jojo Si was gonna do this weekend. God. You nailed it. I wanna know. What? I wanna know what Jojo, I just wanna. I wanna know if they're dating or not. I'm kinda like, what's going on with Jojo?

I'm just like, is it all an act? I need to know. I feel like they are very, to me they're very aware. How often do you? Someone saw them kiss. There was like a picture of the two of them in a pool somewhere in Mexico and they kissed. How did they get that picture?

Right, like her mom probably leaked it online. She's like, sending it, sending it. But then I'm like, are they just doing it because she's like, new music coming out? Or does she actually like him? Like, what's going on? I think that's what I can't help but think is like how often is stuff kind of like planned to get attention?

Right? Because there's the idea of like no attention is bad attention. Yeah. Horrible thing. But it's like true for some celebrities. How much of these things it's like, oh, it's drama, it's beef, but it's like, is it even real?

Yeah. I mean, the Blake Lively stuff is definitely real. But, do- That one, I just, I can't even believe that that's even happening. Happening. And that we're not even close to it being over. No, we're not even close, it's next year.

And then after that, it's gonna be the aftermath. But I feel like, I do think some, do you think like people's managers, and you probably don't, I don't know if you know this answer, but do you think some people's managers are like, let's kind of push this drama? Do you think that they have any ploy, like selling pictures or like selling information?

Definitely. I think, yeah, some people it's like a game and sometimes it's not, but yeah. Right, like Hailey Bieber and Justin Bieber is not a game. She's like, no. She's done. He's like, but yeah. Right, like Hailey Bieber and Justin Bieber is not a game. She's like, no. She's done. He's like, please no.

She's like, please stop. And they want him to move. They're like, just leave. I know, people want them out of LA. They want him to leave LA. They love it here. Because they're like, if you don't like all the attention, leave.

And it's like, but they don't wanna, what? I know. I think sometimes though, he does stuff and he posts stuff that keeps the conversation going around them. Like he's kissing SZA's hand at the concert, which I'm sure backstage, SZA's like, Hailey, I love you, like love the Vogue cover and they're like gassing each other

up behind the stage and then, but like other people on the internet are like, Justin hates Hailey. It just, sometimes it's not in her favor. It's like never in her favor. Yeah, no. Wow. I don't want that kind of attention.

No. No. At all. Oh my God, I'm so glad. I hope we never come across your desk. Like, you know, cause if we're there, something bad's happened. Unless it's like a fun Dancing with the Stars announcement. Oh.

Those are good ones. Would you go on Dancing with the Stars? We should not send me. Ah! We should not send me. I would die. I would get so many snaps. That'd be one of those unfortunate things

where if they reached out, this is ridiculous, to throw this out. This would never happen. But if Dancing with the Stars reached out and they're like, Shane, we need you, I can't say no. Because it's too funny. And they put you on a zip up full Benson style. I become Benson Boone.

And you're going to do the flip. Yeah. I'm going to do a flip and I'm going to fail. And I'll lay on my head and die mid-stage. I could be the first Dancing with the Stars contestant who dies on stage. I'd be remembered forever. And who would they set you up with?

I hope someone's super feisty. No, here's what I, actually, you wanna hear what I do? Here's what I do, I get on Dancing with the Stars, I come out wearing a mask the whole time and they're like, wrong show. Wrong, this is not a mask singer. You think it's the mask singer, but I just do that for every episode.

That show, who wrote that show? I feel like they were all on acid. They're all on acid out there. It is the craziest show I've ever heard of. And they sing like pitched, I'm like, you know what? I could do that were all on acid. It is the craziest show I've ever heard of. And they sing like pitched. I'm like, you know what? I can do that. Yeah, exactly.

It's not their real voice, which I'm like, great. The worst thing is ever, ever is when they take off their mask and they're like, oh. Oh my God, it's the guy from those commercials. It's you, the Geico guy. Oh, it's I love you. What's your name? They're always guessing like crazy stuff, they're like, is it Taylor Swift?

They're like, it's Madonna. It's Barack Obama. And then they take it off, they're like, oh my God, Vanderpump, right? Vanderpump. Right? Okay. Okay, so do you like then, do you watch a lot of TV

to like also get information, like do you watch like reality shows at all? Or you just? Sometimes. It depends. Usually, more recently, it's been a lot of docu-series that I will talk about. But sometimes reality TV for TikToks and short form stuff,

I should watch it more, because everyone's super into Summer House, Vanderpump, Real Housewives, The Mormon Wives. I'm so behind. I should watch it more because everyone's like super into like summer house Vanderpump. Yeah real housewives Mormon wives So behind Ian Ian is big in an angel of Mormon wives I watched the first season you see my fence and Boone stops his break. He'll be back on there. Wait. He was never on there They're gonna go to a Benson concert next year. Yes. Watch that, that's what's gonna happen.

And they're gonna zoom in on his crotch, and they're like, Ah! Wow, now they are divided. Divided but together. Divided we backflip. Wow. Wow, there's just like so much

that I wanna pick your brain about, but like. You never, before you came here today, you'd never heard of us, right? Me? Yeah. No, I have. Okay. Yeah. I didn't know. I was like, we never ended up in the drama, so maybe you didn't. My friend actually texted me,

and she was like, oh, you should say this, but I don't remember what she said, but I guess like she said you did theater or something. There's a mutual involved, but yeah. I did, who did? Who did theater? involved, but yeah. Something. Who did? Who did theater? One of my friends. Said.

I don't know, said someone that you know did theater with her. Angela? I don't know. Me? I gotta look. Maybe not. Maybe Angela.

That's wild. Yeah. Well. I did know enough to tell my friends, hey guys, this is what I'm doing. For her to be like, wait, you're doing that today. Let me. Whoa. Biggest celebrity, this is what I'm doing. For her to be like, wait, you're doing that today. Let me. Biggest celebrity podcast right here.

I'm just kidding. Better than call her daddy. Better than my 4 a.m. wake. Oh yeah, this is a better call time. We're having Jane Goodall on. No, that was so random. What was that about? We, I wish.

I don't know. And I love her because I had to do like a fourth grade thing on her where I like was having like a gorilla or like the chimpanzee with me and I did the whole thing on her. I had to dress up as her. But then seeing her on Call Her Daddy,

I was like, what's she about to ask her? You're at the front of the class being like, Jane Goodall's in the news. She said the chimpanzees are having a ton of drama right now. Oh my God, you guys. Why, yeah, I don't know why she was on Call Her Daddy. I didn't watch that one. So funny.

But I'd love to have her on and just talk the whole time about Call Her Daddy. What's up you fucking crazy bitches? We're here with the- Jane Goodall, the craziest bitch alive. She's really wild. She loves wildlife. Uh, uh.

This bitch saved some chimps. And she's still doing it. How's that long white hair? She's just like, thank you for having me, bitch. No, seriously, I feel like I didn't even see her in the teaser, it was just like a stuffed animal on the chair, and I was like, who the fuck is coming on? She's like, this is my last day on Earth, let's discuss.

Where was Jane? And I was like, who the fuck is coming on? She's like, this is my last day on earth. Let's discuss. Yeah. Anyways. Where was Jane? Oh my God, where was Jane? She clearly wasn't there because- Could have been an important question. Could have saved. I wonder if Carl or Daddy asked Jane about Harambe.

Well, Jane cares about chimpanzees, gorillas. And you love chimpanzees. Actually, I don't know. I don't know if that's true. I think Jane Goodall cares about all the primates. Nope. Nope, just chimpanzees. Could you imagine?'t know. I don't know if that's true. I think Jane Goodall cares about all the primates. Nope. Nope, just chimpanzees. Could you imagine?

She's like, all right, what fucking other animals do you hate? What animals are pieces of shit? And Jane's like, well, I actually don't know Jane's voice at all. I don't know either. I don't think I ever heard it. I didn't see a clip from this, so.

Yeah. You're not caught up on the Jane Goodall. She has too much content to watch. Yeah, she can't keep up with it. I knew Jane wasn't gonna be giving me the tea. Yeah, I do have one question though. Do you watch content for just your enjoyment? Yeah, who do you watch just purely for fun?

Yes, I mean, I'm just like always scrolling, so it's like whatever lands on my page, it's like sometimes it's for work and sometimes it's just like for fun. Yeah. Do you watch movies? You go to the movies? Oh yeah.

I love going to the movies. I haven't seen Lilo and Stish. I want to see so bad. I've been hearing all of the criticism of how they changed the movie. Oh, uh oh. I've been hearing tidbits of this too. Yeah. Uh oh. But I like they changed the movie. Oh, uh oh. I've been hearing tidbits of this too. Yeah. Uh oh.

But I like going to the movies. Good. End of the year, catching all the Oscar noms. Same. I got to see it so I could judge it, you know? Yeah, of course. It makes it more fun. Would you ever do, you don't do videos based off of like,

you don't do videos based off of like those type of celebrities, right? Not really. Not really, unless it's big, like the Don't Worry Darling drama was so crazy. And then obviously it ends with us. That did get me to the theater. Oh, of course.

I needed to see it right when it came out because I was like, all right, let me go see it. Even I needed to see it. So it's like sometimes there is drama. Yeah. I'm like, all right, let's go see this for work, I guess. Yeah, for work. I guess. Yeah for work I'm I bet in paper. So you watch movies, but do you go on vacation? Can you go on vacation? Yeah

I think I just bring my laptop like anywhere in my mic and See what happens. I love it. Wow. Yeah, I love it You're one man. It was two like all of like Coachella Stagecoach office like I felt like it was on the scene, like reporting live. Yeah. That's what it was giving. That's cool.

You're doing cooler things than 60 Minutes. Let's be real. Yeah, 60 Minutes. 60 Minutes, nobody watches 60 Minutes anymore. Even though I did back in the day. I'm gonna take a nap for 60 Minutes. Oh God. That's your second 60 Minute joke.

Hell yeah. And it did quite hit. I can't wait to, no that's me dunking on 60 minutes every single episode. You needed a Benson Boone flip hit. They're my biggest opponent. Hate them. I'm causing beef with 60 minutes. That's who I'm choosing. They're done. They're done. Are they done? Good. Fuck them. How many fucking 60 minutes can you fuck up right now? I can't. Okay. Okay.

It was just, it was always on right before Survivor, so my parents and I watched it. I always remember. I love Survivor. I'm probably the, me and like three other people in this office watched Survivor. I haven't seen it in a minute. Because everyone's like, what?

But it was so good. They're like, why are you still watching this show? Isn't it done? I'm like, no, it's so good. They're like, why are you still watching this show? Isn't it done? I'm like, no, it's not done. They just announced, I think, season 50's cast. OK. Yeah, it has Mike White, right? And it has Mike White for the second time.

I didn't really dive into it today. I only know about this because Tommy. He's going to be on? That's kind of crazy. For the second time. He's already been on. Yeah, he's already been on. He loves Survivor.

He loves Survivor. Some of the people that were on his season have been in White Lotus. Oh my God, wait, you're so right. Just like in the backgrounds. You're so right, I knew that. His season was so good because he was like a reporter on that season because his comments about people. His commentary was so good.

He was there doing research for his show. He was, but I will say like he really connected with people and like made like solid friends, but I will say, he really connected with people and made solid friends. But there's this viral clip of him drinking a big glass of wine because he won one of the challenges. And he's searching for an idol, and he's like, where is it? Like, it's the idol. So Tanya co-did.

Oh, yeah. Exactly. But yeah, that's the new cast of So Sick. Wow, I need to look at who else is gonna be on. I just saw like the big announcement where they're like all collaged in and I didn't look at the names yet. I mean, I only, I didn't either.

I got a text this morning from Angela saying like, Oh my God, it's the revival cast. And I was like, you watch? Mike White. Yeah. We love him. Yeah. Wow.

Well, this was incredible. This was so amazing. I feel like I've known you my whole life. You walked in and before we started recording, we already started talking. And I was like, okay, let's start recording because this is just real. Yeah.

Pop culture educated. It's wild how much information you have. Up to date, now it's not third party. Yes. You're up to date. I know everything now. But by the time this episode airs, I've forgotten all. You're up to date. I know everything now. Yeah. But by the time this episode airs, I've forgotten all.

You're just gonna do a back flip and break your neck. I'm gonna do a back flip, all right? Back flip and you're gonna be on the ground. But hopefully by the time this airs, my Benson Boone impression through the roof. I can't wait to hear it. I think it could be really fun. I've got the mustache.

You do. I just feel like a little longer in the back and then you've got it. I'll have to wear a wig. Yeah. And I'll have to, we'll have to tie me up to the ceiling so I can do back flips. You ready for that suit? No, but Benson isn't either.

Apologize to your balls first. He's not either. Oh my gosh, wow. Oh my God, Spill Sesh, if you haven't watched it, heard it, go to Spill Sesh. It's amazing if you want all of your news. I do. I'm going to be listening to it every day now.

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