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Sometimes the best update is a breakup. 0:00 Intro 1:01 I broke up w/ my bf over the "orange peel theory" https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoHotTakes/comments/17u5tsw/deleted_by_user/ 17:45 Broke up with my fiance after getting engaged https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1fgv2lj/update_aitah_if_i_break_up_with_my_fiancee_after/ 39:37 I broke up a marriage https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1f0vzu1/aita_for_hooking_up_with_a_married_woman_and/ 49:02 My fiance ran away when we were attacked https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1euy4dm/aitah_for_considering_breaking_up_with_my_fiance/ 1:01:42 I asked my gf for reasons we might break up https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/184v1re/tifu_when_i_asked_my_gf_to_come_up_with_reasons/ SUBSCRIBE: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshPit WEAR OUR JOKES: https://smosh.com WHO YOU SEE Courtney Miller // https://www.instagram.com/co_mill/ Shayne Topp // https://www.instagram.com/shaynetopp/ Trevor Evarts // https://www.instagram.com/trevorevarts/ WHO YOU DON’T SEE (usually) Director: Bailey Petracek Editor: Vida Robbins Director of Programming, Smosh Pit: Emily Rose Jacobson Associate Producer, Smosh Pit: Bailey Petracek Production Designer: Cassie Vance Art Director: Erin Kuschner Assistant Art Director: Josie Bellerby Art Coordinator: Alex Aguilar Prop Master: Courtney Chapman Art Intern: Abby Schmidt Audio Mixer: Scott Neff Audio Utility: Dina Ramli Director of Photography: Brennan Iketani Camera Operator: James Hull Camera Operator: Eric Wann Assistant Director: Alexcina Figueroa Director of Production: Amanda Barnes Production Manager: Alexcina Figueroa Production Coordinator: Zianne Hoover Operations & Production Coordinator: Oliver Wehlander Production Assistant: Quincy Bell Production Intern: Caroline Smith Post Production Manager: Luke Baker DIT/Lead AE: Matt Duran IT: Tim Baker Director of Design: Brittany Hobbs Senior Manager, Channel & Strategy: Lizzy Jones Channel Operations Coordinator: Audrey Carganilla Director of Social Media: Erica Noboa Social Creative Producer: Peter Ditzler, Tommy Bowe Merchandising Manager: Mallory Myers Social Media Coordinator: Kim Wilborn Social Media Intern: Mailyn Stiffler Talent Coordinator: Selina Garcia Operations PA: Katie Fink CEO: Alessandra Catanese EVP of Programming: Kiana Parker Coordinator Producer of Programming: Marcus Munguia Executive Coordinator: Rachel Collis OTHER SMOSHES: Smosh: https://smo.sh/Sub2Smosh Smosh Games: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshGames El Smosh (Spanish Dub): https://smo.sh/Sub2ElSmosh SmoshCast: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshCast FOLLOW US: TikTok: https://smo.sh/TikTok Snapchat: http://smo.sh/OnSnapchat Instagram: https://instagram.com/smosh Facebook: https://facebook.com/smosh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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There it is. Only in theaters November 15th. Hello and welcome to Reddit Stories. I'm Shane and today, we've got a lot of breakup stories. Some that aren't breakup stories but a lot that are breakup stories. I'm joined by two lovely people Trevor and Courtney. Hello. Hello. We've all gone through breakups here. Yeah. Yeah they suck. Yeah. I've heard of some people having good breakups that are amicable and fine,

but I feel like most are not good. Most aren't, yeah. Most are not fun. Not good. Well, we've got a bunch of breakup stories. It's been a long time since we've done a breakup-themed episode. Hell yeah, let's get into it, brother.

All right, let's just hop in. Let's do it, brother. Let's do it, break up. This first story, this comes from the Too Hot Takes podcast. Shout out to Morgan over at Too Hot Takes, big fans. And I'm pretty sure I've read this story before and I love this story. Or maybe I'm just aware of the idea behind it.

Am I the asshole for breaking up with my boyfriend over the orange peel theory? boyfriend over the orange peel theory? What is the orange peel theory? I should make note that this was from about a year ago when the orange peel theory was a thing. You'll hear about it soon. What is the orange peel theory? I was scrolling on TikTok when I saw a post

about the orange peel theory, which to sum it up, is when you ask another person to do a small task for you, like peeling an orange or asking them to tie your shoes for you. Both of these are tasks that you can do by yourself. The real test is how they respond to you. If they respond with, you can do it yourself, can't you do that? I guess. Then they are not willing to do small tasks for you and will most likely fail to do larger

tasks for you in the future. However, if they do it willingly or take the initiative to do it immediately, then they pass in a way. Now onto the situation. My boyfriend of seven months was sitting on the couch when I saw the TikTok video explaining the theory and I decided I should try it out. Up to this point, we were happy,

but now looking back on it, I am not surprised by how he responded. I asked him to tie my hair up for me and he looked at me and asked me why I couldn't do it. At first, I thought that maybe he was intimidated by my long hair. However, he has had long hair in the past and knew how to tie it up.

I asked him again, thinking it was just a fluke, but he told me that I could do it since I was in the kitchen and he needed to relax, stating that he just got off work. I know what y'all are thinking. Let that man relax, he just got off. Y'all, he works from home, and even if he was truly tired, he has plenty of energy to play games and go out to the bar with his friends. Regardless, I honestly didn't want to break up and thought it was dumb to throw a relationship

away over a TikTok. Well, that was until later in the day when I asked him if he could toss a towel in the dryer so I could be warm when I got out of the shower since I forgot to do it myself. Surprise surprise, he never did it, and it just made me realize how much I do for him and his daughter That is not even mine. I think I have fed held and changed her more than he has so reddit I asked you if I am the asshole if I go through with it So she's considering breaking up with she's considering breaking up with him, but I think the title is a little misleading She's saying she's gonna break up with him over the's considering breaking up with him, but I think the title's a little misleading. She's saying she's gonna break up with him

over the orange peel theory. But she talks about the orange peel theory and then starts to go into their whole relationship and other things. And you're not an asshole for breaking up with someone for things that have been going on your entire relationship. If it was, oh yeah, everything's perfect and then he failed the orange peel theory,

that would be different. I cannot believe how much tests come up in Reddit still. People are testing their friends, testing their partners. Yeah, I mean, she definitely chose things that are very different from the orange peel theory. But like, it is so interesting. And I know that she like looks back on the whole relationship,

but it was this test that caused her to look back on everything and switch her perspective. And I think probably because she thought he would say yes to these things. Not like, oh, I don't know if he will. Like she thought they were good and that he would be down to tie her hair up. I feel like I wouldn't do the hair tie one

as like the first task, because that's like, I don't even know. I wouldn't even want someone to tie my shoes for me because I'm like, you're going to tie them too tight or two of those. It was going to be, you're going to have little shark fins coming out. Can you imagine, you're just like doing work

and all of a sudden you look over and I'm standing in the hallway and I'm just like, can you tie my shoes? Yeah. Just standing there with untied shoes, just like doing work and all of a sudden you look over and I'm standing in the hallway and I'm just like, can you tie my shoes? Just standing there with untied shoes, just like, can you tie my shoes? Oh my God. And you're like, no, and I'm like, wow, that's so fucked up.

I would tie your shoes if you asked me to. If you were like, can you tie my shoes? I'd be like, okay. I can't, that's a buckle. You failed the test. I would tie your guys' shoes too. I would tie your shoes. I'll tie your shoes.

I'll tie your shoes. But we're not dating. What the fuck? No, that like threw me off. At the start of the story, I was like, like if Raven had asked me, like if she was in the kitchen, I was sitting on the couch and she asked me

to come put her hair up, I'd probably be like, yeah, but that's like weird that you're asking me to do that from that far away. But then when it came to the towel thing, I'm like, oh, that's just a considerate thing. That's a cute thing. The towel thing is where I'm like, okay, like this is part of your regular routine.

I think the problem with some of these tests is it's people asking of something for the first time ever in their relationships. So I think the response of like, what, why? Like, because they're confused because it's never happened before. And the orange one, it's like, because it's so easy. Some people can't peel an orange.

Like I used to, I sometimes still don't know if I can. And so to ask someone to peel it, it is like a tedious task that needs to be completed in order to like, you did it, you peeled an orange. Whereas something like tying your hair up or things, it's a little bit different. Still, I think it's important that she saw the reactions that she got.

If this was like neglected, I feel like I've heard a lot worse stories on here, so I was like expecting a lot worse. The issue I see on her end is lot worse stories on here, so I was expecting a lot worse. The issue I see on her end is she's talking about, yeah, looking at this, it's very imbalanced, I'm taking care of his kid, I'm doing all these things, should I break up with him? I'm like, have you at least talked about this?

Yeah. Because that's something you discuss of, hey, I feel there's an imbalance of what we're doing for each other. Hey, I would like you to be a little more considerate of me and like, you know, help me out sometimes. But it's just kind of a he's gone. There was no verdict reached on this. But we have some comments. TikTok advice does seem a little strange, but sometimes approaching life in a different way can help take those rose-colored glasses off a relationship.

Maybe if more people took a different look at relationships, then divorce wouldn't be so high. This coming from someone who is divorced. Someone said, This is laughable. I do small stuff for my husband all the time and vice versa, but if I'm sitting comfy on the couch

and then he sits down and asks me for a drink, hell no, get it yourself. Having a relationship is not doing every little thing your partner asks when they ask. True. You're the asshole for taking relationship advice from TikTok. You're the asshole for testing your boyfriend.

Yes, couples do little things for each other, and it is healthy and makes a good relationship. Manufacturing scenarios to manipulate someone into fetching and caring for you to demonstrate how committed they are to you is not healthy. You are not royalty. You are not royalty. You are not beneath these tasks. It reflects more on you that you expect someone

to tie your shoes when you are perfectly capable of it than it says about your boyfriend when he says, what now? Yeah, I totally see all of that. And I do think if you're testing your partner, you're coming from a place of like distrust already. And if you have distrust, you need to talk about that. You don't test that. Yeah.

I never even consider like even doing that kind of a challenge or test because I'm like, well, I already know like that he would. Like, it's not like, I feel like it is already like there's like a, yeah, like you're not, you're not needing that affirmation of trust. Yeah. So like if there's, if you're, it's a layer of insecurity that's probably already there. I think this just, it probably confirms some fears for her

and like regardless of how it happened, like if she realized she's not happy in this relationship and if she was taking care of someone else's kid in this little test, helped her realize that, like it sucks that he that she used a test, cause I agree like whenever tests and challenges are happening, it's weird. Yeah.

This challenge I felt was like super innocent, but it can bring out a reality that you weren't expecting. I think if you're testing it from a place of like, there's really a problem and I'm gonna have a problem with the result. I'm like, I think you're missing the mark by doing it then. Yeah. You know, some couples, if you have the type of relationship

where it's gonna be cool, if you're doing it for fun as more of like a prank type of thing, it's different, but she's coming from a real place, and it's just like, what are you doing? I don't know, that's kind of my, if a friend of mine came to me and was like, yeah, I'm feeling like there's an imbalance in our relationship, I'm gonna do this test.

I'm gonna be like, you should just break up. Yeah. Like if you're getting to the point where you're really genuinely testing your partner based on stuff you're coming across on the internet, just break up, like what are you doing? Or have a real conversation. Yeah, the real conversation part.

That's how you solve things. Update. I was not expecting one. All right, I know. Hello again, Reddit, fast update how you solve that's how you solve things update Expecting one. All right. I know Hello again reddit fast update for you guys first I would like to thank you for how brutally honest the comments were and no I am NOT 12 I am 22. I would also like to clear some things up first off I didn't mean to make it seem like I was testing him like a crazy girlfriend who sets her boyfriend up for failure I simply use the theory to see what he would do out of curiosity

And give the realization that I was giving 90% while he was giving 30% into the relationship. Yeah, I mean, that's 120% relationship right there. But their relationship just goes really hard. Yeah. Yeah. The theory helped me take off my rose-colored,

tinted glasses and truly see just how much I was doing without an ounce of appreciation. As for the ones saying that they would also refuse the small task as well, this simply does not apply to me. My partner asked me to tie his shoes, I would be down on one knee because I feel like it is a simple way to show love. Previously, I had never asked him to do something

that I could do myself since I am relatively independent. This was not the case for him since he uses me for almost everything. Babysitter when he goes out, nighttime nanny, chef, cleaner, washing machine, chauffeur, et cetera. As I took time to read the comments, there was a lot of reflecting, and I knew I had to talk to him

and give him a chance to work this imbalance out. I texted him and told him we needed to talk, and he asked me for a ride to my house since his mom was out. I picked him up, but to my surprise, he had his baby, so I asked him if he could just stay in the driveway and talk. He told me that he was hoping we could talk on the way. When I asked him on the way to what,

he told me that his buddy wanted to meet up for drinks, and I just lost it and told him to get out of my car. I just let out everything I was thinking and feeling. He looked very confused, but then changed his tune and started blaming me, saying that I waited too long to tell him this And that his daughter is already bonded to me. She is around one I'm not sure what to do I went home and my phone was filled with messages from his mom saying that I needed to step up and be a good mom

And future wife the thing is I don't want to be either Lastly, I know you guys don't like the orange peel theory But I think I dodged a bullet or for the ones who feel bad for him, he dodged a bullet. Oh. Clearly, I mean, clearly they shouldn't be together. I mean, that seems to be the case here. I don't know, this just feels like, it feels like she's 22 and figuring out who she is.

Yeah. And it's also like, you know, what she's also kind of describing, I mean, in a very weird, unhealthy, like, way is love languages. It's like, okay, you're talking about how acts of service are very important to you. That's something to know when you're getting into a relationship. But it sounds like she, it sounds like they had no communication and they got to this

point and then she's unloading how she feels about him this whole time I Think it'll be good for both of them to break up sadly Because this just sounds like a lot They need to communicate Yeah, it sounds like everything that needed to happen Yeah test suck Exhibit a yeah that needed to happen. Yeah. You know? Tests suck.

Exhibit A. Yeah. It sounds, it sounds, it sounds to me almost like from the beginning she wanted to break up with him. You know, it just didn't sound like she liked him from the start. Yeah. It just sounded unhealthy and immature all around.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't even know what to say. Yeah, that's like being 22 and like being with someone who has a kid and yeah, then like just the expectation from the guy and his mom that you're just going to be the child's mother.

Yeah. Like they can't have been together for, you know, more than a year. Right. Yeah, this sounds like an inevitable breakup breakup like if I met these people and they're talking about their relationship I'd be like this isn't gonna last like sadly. It's just just seems like a lot Yeah, and I can sympathize with her because like I've been in a relationship where suddenly you'll see yourself in the mirror You're like, oh my god I'm this guy's mom like next thing, just because of small boundaries

are pushed or small patterns become bigger and bigger and then suddenly you're doing their dishes and everything and like, you don't even realize when it started. So like this test probably, yeah, like took off the rose colored glasses. For sure, for sure. Yeah. They were just on different paths.

They just weren't compatible. Yeah, and I think how she went about all this shows, like she's an immature person, like, and she needs to grow more too. And so the means in which we got to this breakup, one thing, but they're broken up and I think that's probably for the best. And hopefully in our next relationship,

she communicates what she is seeking in a relationship before it gets to this point. Yeah, knows what to look for way earlier on. Right. Yeah. Well, I like unloosen my shoes. Tie it. Tie my shoes.

Okay, I tie your shoes together. Everyone fights over tying my shoes. I think this is a really good topic though, because we're talking about how TikTok influences relationships. I also think it's how social media influences relationships because, and I try not to do this,

but I think so many people online are just putting the camera in front of their face and telling people how their relationship should be. And it's like, hey man, like, take everything you see on social media with a grain of salt. If it resonates with you, cool, but it's just some person.

They might just be saying something random, but it really impacts a lot of relationships, and it's a lot. Yeah, it makes me think of that movie, 8th Grade, how the main character, she's like, how to be confident, how to do all this stuff. And when you see her reality, it's like, not that. And so I try, that's how I take a lot of content creators

with a grain of salt, because it's like, they're being so passionate, giving you advice sometimes. And I'm just like, that's, they don't know me. Like, I didn't, you know. Yeah, though, because you'll come across, there's so many like, on sides that I've seen in the past of like dudes who are like, ways to know she's cheating on you

or ways to know like your relationship isn't gonna work. And it's just like, I'm like, who are you? What are you, what are you saying? And I don't know. I think it's very important to, there is good advice out there and there is legitimate, you is legitimate guidelines and thought processes, but you gotta make sure what you're getting it from

is from someone who's a professional, who's got research behind it. And then otherwise, it's like, communicate with your partner. If something doesn't feel right, talk to them. And if you're not happy with how that communication's going, that's the sign. Yeah. I feel like with so many things on the internet,

like yeah, there can be good stuff out there, but you really do have to like make sure you're seeing it through the right lens. And if you're not feeling happy in a relationship, and yeah, like you're not going to your partner and you're going to TikTok instead, to then find more things to potentially be upset about, that is just not the healthy way of doing it.

It's kind of that test you can do where you can Google something and if you Google it the right way, you'll get the results you want. You know? Oh, yeah. It's like, is this in a relationship good? And you'll find like an article about like why it's good. And then it's like, is this in a relationship bad? And then you'll find another about like why it's good. And it's like, is this in a relationship bad?

And then you'll find another article saying why it's bad. You can just confirm your own thoughts. Yeah, I think social media also like just creates unrealistic standards in general of like remembering that advice that's being shouted at you or shown to you, taking it with a grain of salt. But also like even things that aren't being explicitly like said to us, we're taking in and comparing ourselves.

And that can make things really tough. I think that's like, that's like, I feel like even more what the orange peeling challenge was, where it's like, oh my God, seeing a video of, look how cute this was, my boyfriend peeled it for me. Or then the flip where it's like, oh my God, he didn't. And it turned into a horrible argument. And like, even those are just fake.

Yeah. Yeah. So many are fake. So many people are doing bits out there. Don't know what's real and what's not. Imagine doing a bit. Oh my God. Never do bits. Never do bits.

Couldn't be me. Bits couldn't be me. Everything's fully 100% real. No. Never a bit. All right, our next story. Am I the asshole if I break up with my fiance after she showed a startling change of behavior

after getting engaged? This is a 32 year old man. I just recently proposed to my girlfriend of two years, Sharon, who's 30 years old. Like a month and a half ago, and it feels like the second the ring got on her finger, her attitude and behavior took a total 180. The entire time we were dating, we seemed exceptionally compatible and at least it seemed

we shared common beliefs and morals. Seven weeks ago, I proposed and she said yes and I felt like it was the happiest moment for the two of us. But not even a week later, it's like her attitude totally flipped. I thought I knew all her friends, but one day I came home and there were six women I've never seen before, and Sharon introduced me to them. I was curious as to why I was just now meeting them

when I already met Sharon's two best friends, Michelle and Octavia, both not present. Over a year and a half ago, Sharon said she wanted to make sure we were a sure thing before I met her inner circle. I found this strange, not to mention it was a weeknight and they were quickly draining my wine rack of wine. Sharon still had her own place, but she stayed with me so often she practically lived here. Still, I found it incredibly rude when they left

with four empty bottles of rosé in their wake. I tried to talk to Sharon about having uninvited guests on weeknights and she dismissed my grievance very flippantly. More than that, she brushed me off. The following week, she went out with the girls several times and when she brought the girls to my place twice without notice, once with notice to appease me, her words, they all treated me like a butler, shaking their empty wine glasses at me for refills.

After the fourth time, I made it clear that I will get a locked wine rack. Sharon just called me no fun after that. It gets worse. Sharon decided me and the girls got off on the wrong foot and said we should have dinner together at a nice restaurant. Well, I went and it was not great. The six kept prodding me about my life, my house, my career, but deflected every question I asked. It got especially bad at night when

they started talking about modern relationships and jealousy, and one of them brought up some key points about relationships that I thought Sharon and I were on the same page about, specifically, what ifs regarding polyamory and being friends with exes. To my shock, Sharon said we shouldn't be too hasty on such decisions, which was a total 180 to how she expressed herself on these things only a month prior, where she was vehemently

against keeping ex-intimate partners in friends' circles and was staunchly monogamous. The worst part was when the bill arrived. Sharon announced it should be together and slid me the check. I told her she can't be serious and we got into a bit of an argument. I ended it by putting my amount down on cash and walked out,

leaving them to figure out the rest of the bill. The next few days after that, Sharon kept calling me toxic and fragile, but every time I even pushed at it, she would give an apology and promise she was just stressed at work. It's nuts. We haven't even planned the wedding yet. The worst part was this Monday.

When at work, I got a Nest doorbell alert, checked and saw Sharon and one of her six new friends arriving at my place, going in and exiting with my golf clubs. This set was a gift from my father, and it cost a pretty penny, too. So Sharon lending it out without my permission got me pissed.

I told her the club's cost would move it into a serious crime, and she and her friend had an hour to return them or the cops would be called. Sharon kept insisting she got my permission, and I told her to cut the crap. Well, not 45 minutes later, I got another notification of Sharon and her friend

coming back with the clubs and going inside, leaving them, Sharon's friend flipping off the Nest doorbell on the way out. I got home and saw Sharon's friend literally just threw the clubs and bag on the living room floor. Sharon tried to talk to me about my toxicity again, and I told her again to cut the crap. I said if I knew this was how she was, I would have never proposed. That seemed to freak her out, and she again insisted that she was stressed from work, but I wasn't buying it anymore.

I told her to return the ring and her key, and we would talk about our relationship this weekend. She cried and begged me, taunting to not cancel the engagement, and insisted that it was just stress. I told her again, we will talk about it this weekend. She finally relented. I had my house re-keyed anyway after she left,

just to be safe. Sharon has been texting me constant messages of love and apologies for getting swept up, and insisted she was only wanting to show me off to her close friends. I don't know I'm just not buying it the same close friends have been sending me texts daily calling me toxic and fragile again saying they knew I wasn't man enough for Sharon or secure enough to share her with friends a few of my friends that knew Sharon the entire two years we were dating were surprised and can't believe she turned high this quick and that there must be something missing or that I am leaving something out.

They say I must have said something to trigger her friends to act like this and I had to have been the asshole somewhere along the process. I don't know, it's a lot to take from all directions right now. What the frick? Is that the end of that one?

Yeah. Oh my God. Dude. What a shift. I have sort of personal experience with something similar to this, where an ex and I kind of made like a, like one of those leaps in a relationship,

we made like, okay, like, it was kind of like moving in together. And I saw a big change then. And in hindsight, my interpretation was like, it's kind of like one of those fear moments where you're like, oh shit, is this what my life, like, am I ready for this in my life, whatever. And you kind of like sabotage your life.

I think this sounds to me a little like self-sabotage, life. Mm-hmm. I think this this sounds to me a little like self-sabotage or maybe not but it just Maybe she got scared that she's engaged in trying. I don't know. This is I truly don't know. This is weird. I mean It's super common and you get to see bits of it and a lot of those reality shows that are so obsessive with marriage, like The Ultimatum and Love is Blind and stuff, where marriage is this pinnacle, this is the thing, and it matters so much. And it can cause a change in perspective, I think,

for a person where suddenly they've gotta be thinking about all this stuff, and I think, you know, it sounds so abrupt, and like, when the friends come over and they're like treating him like a butler, like, I've seen that before, and I think sometimes the group mentality can kinda get a little overbearing, and it can really kind of objectify

and put the fiance in like an uncomfortable position that he's like, he's like, cause I've seen partners be like, oh yeah, I'm down to like help you guys. I'm down to be like your butler for your girls night and stuff. But it's just, but it doesn't sync up at all with what she's saying.

Where she's like, I just wanted to show you off to my friends while she's also, no, I'm seeing if you're worthy. Like you shouldn't have said yes if you weren't sure he was worthy. Right, yeah, this feels like you're counteracting, like you're doing things you should have done before. Yeah, like this would all...

You should have never done most of this, but... It sounds like they were a lot, on the same page in a lot of ways. I wonder if they had a marriage talk or an engagement discussion ahead of this, because I feel like that, I feel like would have, I don't know, it sounds like they didn't. And they also don't live together.

And so it's like, this is their first big leap. Like from one thing, you know, because often for couples moving in together is like the first big leap. And then it's proposal and stuff. Being with someone for two years and not knowing about six people that like exist in a significant way in their life.

I would lose my mind. Like how does that like, how does that happen? How do you keep six people away from someone? Like that just seems insane. That's enough. I think there's several moments and I don't say these types of things lightly. Like, I think it's communication's important

and like, not just being like, I'm done, whatever. But there's several things that happened in this room. Like, yeah, that'd probably be enough to take the ring back. One is, here's six of my, here's my inner circle I've never introduced you to. I'd be like, do you have your own Illuminati? Yeah. Oh my God. Like, so you don't trust me? Or like, I also think introduced you to. I'd be like, do you have your own Illuminati? Yeah. Oh my God.

Like, so you don't trust me? Or like, I also think it's weird, like I think it's important for you to introduce people to your friends, even just as the relationship is getting more serious long before the engagement. It's weird that she's separated all her women friends from her boyfriend and then treating him a certain way,

taking his stuff. It just feels like she's really like, putting him down a lot. Like. Oh yeah, she's treating him like shit. And another one that I think is an immediate pullback that ring is, he's like, we had discussions about monogamy and polyamory

and suddenly at dinner she's kind of sounding different. She's going, well, I don't want to be hasty on those decisions. Like, well then we shouldn't get married if we have different views on marriage. That's a big thing that you need to be in agreement on. Suddenly she's like, well, I don't know. It almost feels like,

cause I definitely, you know, I've had those times in my life where I have friends that I act a certain way around, you know, friends that are all stupid or around, that I'm dumb or around. And like, I don't know, maybe it's a very just like extreme case of she's like, I have this group of friends that,

and this is like my wild side or whatever, that like, she was like, I genuinely don't know if you would wanna be with me, if you knew that side of my life. And then as soon as she got the ring on, she's like, okay, I can finally like, have that part of my life now be introduced to you. Yeah.

Because she thought it was, you know, set in stone. That's a, that's a, that's very likely just that, I mean, she held back on so much of who she was. Yeah. And that's why I think they didn't have the engagement discussion. Because I feel like if they were like, gonna be like, okay, so like this is it,

like we're, this is us, like we wanna be together. And so maybe this will happen sometime. And that's when you can- You think the proposal was like a complete surprise to her? Like, yeah, I feel like, sounds like they were like on paper, very compatible, had similar morals. So he was like, yeah, like, let's just, I'll propose to her.

And yeah, I was literally gonna say the same thing. I think it's a big red flag when I'm like dating somebody and they are so different with me, with just me, than with their friends. Yeah. And yeah, I think, but I think it's okay when you, like yeah, cause I have different, I'm a Gemini, I'm a fricking chameleon, I have different like demeanors

around different people, but to have like different fundamental like moral values depending on who you're around is big red flags. So much can change depending on who you're hanging out with. I think we see that a lot even in Smosh. Depending on who's in videos, you get such a different vibe. But your level of respect should stay the same. And it's a red flag to me that it's like, oh, well around some people,

you're just gonna suddenly treat me like shit. It's like, then we're not doing this because I don't know what's gonna happen now. And it sounds like he tried to set that boundary and have that discussion a few times with her. Yeah. And I don't love that she's just like, oh, I'm stressed at work.

It's like, that's not an excuse. I'm stressed at work, so sorry I stole your golf clubs and then threw them on the ground. What? At first I thought, I was like, oh no, he doesn't realize the bridesmaids stuff is starting to happen, but he's like, no, we haven't even started planning the wedding yet.

Yeah. That's a, you know. Yeah. Interesting. There's also the possibility that she knew or was hesitant because she knew how terrible her friends are and was afraid to introduce them to him. But I don't know.

No, like you and your partner are a fricking team and you tell that to them and be like, hey, I don't know about my friends. Like if you're willing to marry, like marry your friends. If you want to be closer to them, then you're a literal life partner that you're about to legally be bound to. You need, like that's what's so great

about having a partner like that is, you guys ride together and you be honest about that stuff. And so, yeah, that would suck if that was the case. Some comments, not the asshole, you said you had met two of her friends, Michelle and Octavia, previously. Have they had anything to say about this flipped behavior or the six strangers that materialized?

Opie said, I did message Michelle on Facebook last night. I asked her about the six, and she told me that her, Octavia, and Sharon are cousins and grew up together. Michelle said that she didn't really care for the six, but didn't say much else. The six? The ridiculous six! The sinister six!

It's the ridiculous six! Two years, and she didn't introduce much else. The Six. The Ridiculous Six. The Sinister Six. It's The Ridiculous Six. Two years, and she didn't introduce you to these friends. She knows how terrible they are and how terrible she is with them. She put on quite a show to get the ring, and now that she thought she had you locked down, she can show her true colors. Unless you are leaving out something,

you are definitely not the asshole. You are not toxic or fragile. You have standards. What she did at the restaurant and with the clubs is toxic. It seems like she wants to show them she has you wrapped around her finger and that you will allow her and them to do whatever they want. I wouldn't give her another chance to use you for what you can do or give to her. No one that loves you would treat you like this. Friends or no friends present. Tell her you're too stressed from work to talk about your relationship right now. It sounds like this is a toxic group of frenemies she has

that constantly try to one-up each other, and I bet that this group of friends has been the end of all previous relationships, so she learned to keep them hidden. Mm-hmm. They're all good theories. I mean, to me, it kind of doesn't matter. Like, the reasoning behind it is one thing,

but the act is there. And if you're willing to treat your partner with that much disrespect. Yeah, and listen, I get it. Like, when you have friends that you've been friends with for a long, long time, you're going to trust them more than maybe your partner, or that you've not been with as long

as you've known your friends. I feel like I've seen it a lot, and we've read stories like this on the show, where like marriages, where people think that they can settle down and be their real self or then start to test boundaries and see like, you know,

like there's just so many relationships where it's like there's just a series of just testing your boundaries and seeing what they're able to get away with or it, and that a lot of cases it is self-sabotage where it's like, I don't know if I'm worthy of this, so I need to just let, literally again, push boundaries with what I believe are my issues.

Yeah. Look, and peer pressure's a real big thing. It's super impactful. She's 30 though, and if this guy's right, this comment of like, oh, it's probably been the end of all of her previous relationships, like this group of gross friends, even her cousins are like, yeah, we're not fans of those people.

Yeah, wow. I feel like your 20s, like the difference from your early 20s and late 20s for me was like you kind of drift away from the people you realize are not influencing you in a good way or are pushing you towards making bad decisions or disrespecting you and pushing you to be disrespectful.

Because that's going to cause you to be lonely. It's going to make your life toxic. She's 30 years old. She's too old to be like being influenced on that level, like, is my view. And disrespect is a choice. I mean, I get it, you're stressed from work, but you're still making, you're making decisions.

Yeah, and regardless of her age, it's like how long they've been together and stuff, like what their trust that they've built with each other. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. It's hard, because they're just existing in an echo chamber now of like all of them. They're talking about things,

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And this is how he should be treating you. It's like, yeah, and it's easy, and it spirals upward, this insane thing. Yeah, maybe the second she told those friends, they were like, then they started kinda asking all these questions. Like, well, is he willing to do this? Well, what about this?

Well, you're gonna have to do this. You're gonna have to test him with this and this. And then all these friends are like, and when it's six people that you really trust all having that opinion, you wanna just trust what they're saying. I don't think that makes her like, like the victim in this situation.

I think it's just like. No, it's a real thing that happens, but she still disrespected him. Yeah. Update. Oh! Sharon's been gone now for an hour. Breakup is official. I have the ring back.

I did talk to Michelle via Facebook, and Michelle said her and Octavia were cousins of Sharon, and Michelle also said she knew the six and didn't care for them. Michelle didn't say much more than that. I did meet Sharon's parents, and they both seemed to like me, and the topic of Michelle and Octavia never came up around them. None of our finances were intermingled yet,

but it was planned for later this month, which won't happen. I invited three of our mutual friends, Casey, John, and Mike, to be here when Sharon got here. Sharon showed up and was surprised to see we had company. I said they were here for both of our sakes. Sharon wanted to phone three of the six to come over to even things out.

To fight. And I... Yeah. And I refused. to phone three of the six to come over to even things out. To fight. And I, yeah. And I refused. And I used the club theft as a reason. Sharon sat on the couch very dramatically and then asked if I really wanted to make this public. I outright asked why she changed so much

after the engagement and why she hid the existence of the six. Sharon then went in again about how she insulates her inner circle until a partner is vetted. I called BS. I met her parents. What's more inner circle than your parents? Sharon tried to deflect, but I wouldn't have it. I pointed out how for the last month,

her friends dropping by cost me nearly $500 in wine, which she by the way, made no attempts to reimburse. I also pointed out her trying to make me pay an eight-person dinner bill without asking me first She again said she wanted to show how great of a guy I was and how she clearly misjudged me and was disappointed in my attitude I then asked about the clubs. She tried gaslighting with you totally said it was okay Remember and I kept saying bullshit Mike piped in he knew the clubs were a gift from my dad and I was highly protective of them He too called BS and that's when Sharon turned her attention to Mike and John saying,

isn't he getting forgetful lately? Don't you remember when he forgot that one date and neither was buying it. I finally said that forget postponing the wedding or canceling the engagement. The entire relationship is going to end if she isn't going to be straight with me. Sharon made a very long exaggerated sigh.

She took the ring off and dropped it on the coffee table. She got up to leave and said, you're never going to find someone as good with me. Sharon made a very long exaggerated sigh. She took the ring off and dropped it on the coffee table. She got up to leave and said, "'You're never going to find someone as good as me,' and to send her stuff to her apartment. She left and Casey, John, and Mike were totally stunned. All I could say was, believe me now. We're at a pizza and are waiting for it to arrive now. I am still utterly shocked and confused

by Sharon's attitude. I'm sure the heartbreak will come next, but right now I'm just kind of numb.'" Oh! Whew! Well, I mean, if everything that he wrote is to be believed, then, yeah, her personality flipped. There's a 180. A complete 180.

I've heard about these things happening, like personality flips, and I, they always kind of baffle me. This is when I'm really curious in the comments what people's theories are, because to me this just feels, it feels like cartoonish. I mean we've read Reddit stories on here where like a guy, like they get married

and suddenly he just starts being the complete opposite and it truly is about like locking somebody down. They're suddenly comfortable. And it's like suddenly no, you're my trad wife now, like hard, hardcore. It's hard for me to grasp because I've just never thought that way. Like, I've never thought the way of like, oh, we're in now, I can do whatever.

Like, I don't know, I guess, but I'm a very anxious person. I'm a person who feels like I'm always, you know, a people pleaser. So that type of behavior is just foreign to me. Yeah. Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I could see the side of like Getting a bunch of your friends. He said mutual friends, but getting some of your friends and surprising them with the breakup. I didn't I'm curious what people think I don't think that was necessary

It felt like the answer was to break up with her already But I think feeling uncomfortable and you want support and he got support that he actually needed, I think that's good. I think she was within her rights to have somebody with her, but I'm just like, literally a brawl is going to happen. Let's be careful here.

And also at the start, he was saying that his friends were going like, he must've said something. They were having a hard time believing it. They were like, yeah, you must have done something along the way, because at the end he's like, are you believing me now?

So he did feel gaslighted, so he went about it this way. Either way, it sounds like. I do know if I had walked into an apartment to like someone that I was, like a guy I was having a fight with and he had two other dudes with him, I'd be like, oh no, I'm out. Like that's just scary. But yeah, I mean, other dudes with him. I'd be like, oh no, I'm out. Like, that's just scary.

But yeah, I mean, she was surprising with six of her friends. True, in his home, and that's a lot of wine. Yeah, I mean, if you're getting to a point in a relationship where you are throwing volleys back and forth of like, well, I'm gonna do this now, it's over. But so I think at the end of the day, it's good they broke up off.

Oh, of course. Oh my God, shocking. Like I said, I'm so the end of the day, it's good they broke up. Oh, of course. Oh my god. Shocking. Like I said, I'm so curious what the people in the comments think is the reason for this personality flip, because it blows my mind. No, I mean, I do, there is like one instance in my life where I know somebody personally who had an insane

personality flip, like honestly this, but maybe like five times bigger, like that level. And so like it's happened before and it is, there's, we still don't like have an explanation for it. I still don't like, sometimes you just don't know. Like things can just change. And yeah, it is scary, but sometimes that's just how it happens.

Yeah, it's never gonna be. That I can say I've experienced similar, and it's just like, okay. It's not gonna be easy, especially when you're really close with somebody and suddenly it's like, oh, I think we have different views now. Like, yeah, I can relate to that.

Our next story. Am I the asshole for hooking up with a married woman and causing her divorce? Hmm. Huh. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.

I need to read more. Let's hear his side. I, a 21 year old man, have been hooking up with a woman, 32, for about six months. It started as something casual. We met through a mutual friend at a party, hit it off, and things escalated from there. I knew she was married, but she told me

that she was in an unhappy marriage and was planning to leave her husband. She made it sound like the divorce was already a done deal, so I didn't feel too guilty about it. We continued seeing each other mostly late at night or during the time she said her husband was out of town. I'll admit, it was exciting at first. I was young, she was older,

and it felt like something out of a movie. But things started getting serious when she began texting me constantly and wanting to spend more time together. She would vent about how terrible her husband was and how she couldn't wait to be free from him. A few weeks ago, her husband found out about us. He was devastated and immediately filed for divorce.

She called me in tears, blaming me for everything. She said that if it weren't for me, her life has been ruined. She says that because of me, her life has been ruined. She says that because of me, her life has been ruined. She says that because of me, her life has been ruined. She says that because of me, her life has been ruined. She says that because of me, her life has been ruined. She says that because of me, her life has been ruined. She says that because of me, her life has been ruined. She says that because of me going to fight for full custody and that it's all my fault that her kids might end up living with him instead of her.

She says that because of me, her life is falling apart and her children might grow up without their mother around. I feel bad about the situation, but I also think it's unfair for her to put all this blame on me. I never forced her to cheat, and I wasn't the one who filed for divorce. I'm also not in a position to support her

financially or emotionally. I'm still trying to figure out my own life. So am I the asshole for hooking up with a married woman and causing her divorce knowing she had kids? Whoa! You added that detail at the end. Whoa, whoa! He didn't say he knew she had kids at the start.

Okay, I'll put it out there. The verdict was everyone sucks here. We rarely get those verdicts. Yeah. Everyone sucks here. The old esh. The old esh. The old esh.

Got the old esh on this one. This one. Yeah, this sounds like a plot line of an HBO show. Yeah. Where everyone always sucks. If you are knowingly being a mistress, you know, I don't know what the gender neutral term for that. Mistress-o.

Mistress-o. If you're hooking up with someone that you know is married, like you're objectively, I think that's not a good thing to do. I think everyone agrees, like that's not a good thing to do. Yeah, if you want to avoid an absolute mess, you need to like, I feel like the way he explained how she talked about her current situation,

she never used the word separated, but was like, yeah, like it's basically over. I would have been like, are you separated? And if she'd be like, well, no, I'd be like, okay, well, when you are, I'm here, because it's just, I feel like it's a meme at this point. It's never actually over. They're never actually basically divorced.

It's always like this mess. Yeah, because, you know, in this situation, you're dealing with an untrustworthy person, right? You already know that she's in a relationship, so she's already lying to someone. You're expecting that she's telling you the truth. And it's like, and then you're shocked when it's like, oh, she was lying to me too.

It's like, yeah, she sounds like a liar. That's what she's doing right now. You know, in this situation, if I was like his buddy and he was like, yeah, I hooked up with this woman and she's married and she said she's gonna divorce her husband, I'd be like, okay, cool. You should tell her like, you'll then talk once that divorce is done. Because it's not just that it's wrong,

like there's the wrongness of cheating. There's also in the situation of if someone's like, oh, I'm the other person. I'm like, that's also a stupid situation to get into. It's wrong, but it's also frankly dangerous and just a mess. You're gonna end up in a mess and it's not worth it, man. You're a 21 year old dude, go hook up with someone else.

Like just find something that's not gonna be as complicated as that. I do think it's kind of funny how she was like, oh, I really like you so much. I can't wait for this marriage to be over. Oh, and she's like, it's over, no! It's over, it's your fault, like it's crazy. Yeah.

It's, that's wild to me. Yeah, bro, yeah, no, I could never do what this guy did because like knowing someone has kids too. Mm-hmm. Just like, oh, like. I'm so curious like what that dynamic is too, because what did she, did he say she was 32? Like there's an 11 year age gap.

She's 32, yeah. Like that's gotta be such like, I don't know, a 21 year old kid who doesn't know any better getting into a situation like that. For sure, for sure. I obviously, you know, he's not doing the right thing, but like, god yeah, I can't imagine being him in that situation, being like, you know, he's not doing the right thing, but like, God, yeah, I can't imagine being him in that situation, being like, oh yeah,

like, maybe this will happen. Like, she is gonna like. She could be far more manipulative than we know. There's a lot of details we don't have. It's, we met through a mutual friend at a party, hit it off, and things escorted from there. Well, yeah. That's all we know. I just think in like, in, when it's any kind of cheating,

it's like, it's not like a responsible, long, well thought out, planned thing. No. Like, so, regardless, like, so okay, was she gonna leave her husband and then this OP, were you gonna be the father of these kids? Like, was that what you were like, planning? Like, there was no plan.

I think he was just, maybe I'm misreading. I think he's just having fun. Maybe I'm misreading. Yeah, because he said I'm not emotionally available at the end there and I was like, oh, that's a big one to draw. Okay, yeah, so. She has two kids, a 10 year old son

and a seven year old daughter. She's 32, so she had her first kid when she was his age. So this almost feels like a crisis. And he's half his age? Yeah, no, it's a whole mess. Look, let's be clear. Everyone sucks here, but, like, she is... This is insane on her part.

And it's really gross on top of it. Like, yeah, you think about it. It's like you're dating someone who's... It's quite the age gap, and, yeah, when you have, like... It's just, like, there's a lot to unpack there. Yeah, this is this is unbelievable Behavior and then extra unbelievable it always blows my mind when people cheat and then when they get their caught she can't handle They're like they're like I can't believe this is happening ruining my life

I'm like you at least take responsibility for it. Yeah, like if someone cheats at if you're caught, it's like, you know what, I did this. I did this. I think she couldn't handle the guilt of what she did, and so it's so easy to just like blame the other guy. She totally blew up her life. Like 100%. And you know, like I say with so many stories, yeah, her reasoning is one thing, but your actions are there and they're final.

Like if you're having a crisis, if you're regretting this life you got into at a very young age, but get divorced and then do this. Don't do this. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, it's obvious she was, whatever is going on in her marriage, we don't know,

but she was trying to find some sort of emotional or physical escape in some way, like she was unhappy in some way. But yeah, it's obvious that it seemed like she wanted both to continue on and just kind of like keep them separate and hopefully like. Yeah, you're right. Oh, totally. You're so right, yeah, like it was very much,

she was devastated that the marriage ended. So when, and then when she kind of pivoted and blamed him and was like, I can't believe it's over, it's all your fault. It's like, that was kind of like her real cards being shown of like, oh, she was never planning to end that marriage. This was going on for six months. Yeah.

That's an affair, that's a whole lot of affairs. I do think after six months you should be like, she's not six months. Yeah. That's an affair. That's a whole ass affair. I do think after six months you should be like, she's not getting divorced. Yeah. Yeah, she wanted to get away with this forever. And it seems like a lot of people who cheat, that is what they tend to do.

It becomes a thing of like. Yeah, and it's like if you, obviously it doesn't sound like he was like in this for the long haul. No. I think it's six months. Buddy, get out just go Yeah

Comments don't get me wrong. You're absolutely an asshole, but she's the one that causes her divorce not you She's putting all the blame on you because shitty people don't take responsibility for their decisions. Everyone sucks here. Yeah Everyone sucks here except the husband. You're an idiot who was sleeping with someone you knew was married She decided she needs some young side dick karma got her you'll get yours eventually Yeah, I feel like the stigma of like the other woman gets a lot a lot of like negativity Which obviously cheating in general is bad, but I feel like as a guy maybe he felt like it's like I don't know I'm just kind of here. Totally. Yeah, the same, the same connotation, I don't think is there, you know, for a lot of dudes.

Lastly, someone said, knowingly having an affair with someone who is married automatically makes you the asshole. Granted, she's the much bigger asshole, but you're the asshole too. That's very much how I see this. Yeah. Are we ready for our next story?

Um, yeah. I'm thinking I am. Um, I, yeah, I. I'm thinking I am. Yeah, I think I'm pretty ready. Yeah, I think we can do it. Our next story. Am I the asshole for considering breaking up with my fiancee because he ran away when we were being attacked?

Is your fiance Jerry from Rick and Morty? Oh my god, I thought you were going to say Jerry from Tom and Jerryy? Oh my God, I thought you were gonna say Jerry from Tom and Jerry. No. The first image that popped into my head is just like a raccoon or something like chasing. I mean, he's just sprinting away.

He pushes her towards it. Okay, my fiance, a 24 year old man, and I, a 24 year old woman, have been dating for six years. He proposed to me a few months ago, which was the happiest moment of my life. We set our wedding date for this December. However, after what happened last night, I am seriously considering breaking up with my fiance,

and I'm unsure if I am an asshole. My fiance, my brother, and I were all walking back to our car from dinner at a nice restaurant. The car was parked pretty far away as the place was packed, so we had to walk quite some distance. It was late at night, and as we were walking, a person on a bike came up to us and stopped us and demanded we give them everything we had to walk quite some distance. It was late at night, and as we were walking, a person on a bike came up to us and stopped us and demanded we give them everything we had.

My fiancé panicked and just ran away. But my brother talked to the man for a couple of minutes and ended up beating him up. Oh! Hey, man. Um... So what's going on here? Okay, yeah. Cool. We're just...

Buh! Oh, my God. Hey, I gotta beat you up now, man. That's crazy. The man had no weapon. Hey, I gotta beat you up now, man. That's crazy. The man had no weapon, it was just a fake gun. I called my fiance after that and told him everything was fine and that we would pick him up.

My fiance still seemed a bit shaken, but I explained to him everything was all right and my fiance thanked my brother. However, I still feel extremely weird and sort of disappointed that my fiance just ran away. I understand it was his natural instinct, but seeing my brother take the attacker down in comparison that my fiance just ran away. I understand it was his natural instinct, but seeing my brother take the attacker down in comparison to my fiance just running away,

I feel like I lost a lot of love for my fiance after last night. He got the ick. Oh. I spoke with my brother this morning to get his opinion and he said I should still give my fiance a chance and that my fiance loves me and what happened last night is not a normal occurrence.

I told him I got a massive ick, and I don't think this ick will ever go away. Am I the asshole? Oh my God. Oh, that's so painful. You know what's so crazy is I've actually had this thought before where I'm worried about the day that comes when I have to step up and be a man.

Like I'm serious, like I'm not a confrontational person, I'm not a violent person, but sometimes I think, I was like, if there's gonna come a day, maybe at some point when I have to, like when something happens to Raven and I gotta, you know, hopefully punches won't have to be thrown, but when I have to stand up and I'm like, I hope when that time comes, you know, I punches won't have to be thrown, but when I have to stand up and I'm like, I hope when that time comes, you know,

I can find it within you. Yeah, you just have to like mentally like gas yourself up a little bit every day. Yeah, yeah. So that when it does happen, like you are ready for this moment. I like, I will say, I think it's so sad that that has caused a long-term ache for him

because it's like, here's the thing. This is probably the first time this has ever happened to him. And there's a first time where we don't do things so well. Like, okay, so now maybe he can be better next time. Like, don't let the first time, like, you know, maybe like one time I handled an earthquake so poorly. Okay, and I like-

Which one was it? Remember when I I frozen fear during this spider-man Okay, I feel to know everything about emergency situations and what to do and I do but I Think your response was better than mine I wasn't panicking at all So pretty got up a bunch of we're in the movie theater watching Spider-Man, a bunch will get up to go towards the exit. And Courtney's like, should we go? And I'm sitting there and I just go, nah, there's nothing we can do.

And I was just watching. I was like, this is the best part. And I was like, it makes the movie better. But okay, with earthquakes, I'm like, you're either gonna die or you're in a good place. Like, what are you gonna do? Run away from the earth? Oh my God!

We're in the middle of a movie theater and you can get on the ground. Run away from the earth is crazy. There's a lot of, there's a, okay, yeah, if you're close to a window, get away from the window, things like that, there's protocols, but. No, you're right, we're like in a war room with the TV in it, you're right think I think what sucks about this is like

Yeah, I it's that he fully and it Is flattered and I agree with what you're saying But what was going on through my mind was like I was like, I have no idea where the exit is Meanwhile that big exit site is right Like literally at the fear of my body is like, oh. And people are clearly walking in your direction. And I was like, which way do I go? It's a movie theater.

You can get on both sides. When your panic response hits, there's no thought. But then after that, I was like, I'm so mad at myself. Next time, I'm going to know. And maybe that would be him. Totally. You can definitely train yourself for situations. Like absolutely. No.

I was like, oh, oh, oh. And you look at the exercise and you're like, what does that word mean? What is that? Exceeded? So funny. Yeah. One time Raven and I got into a car accident

and it wasn't anything serious, but I definitely like, it was one of those things where after it happened, I just like sat in the car silent. She was driving and I was like, I didn't know what to do. And she had to like look over at me and she's like, can you do something? And I was like, so then like I got out of the car and like went to like check, you know,

like on the other person, like on the other car and like a piece of her bumper like come off. So I like tried to get that out of the road and I was like, let's get you into the center lane. But there was definitely a moment where I was like, I don't know what to do, I don't know what to do, I don't know what to do. It's totally like a moment of shock.

Yeah, there's fight, flight or freeze. And truthfully, it's not like he made a conscious decision in that moment. It sounds like his brain kicked in and he went. And he probably thought they were all gonna run. Maybe. That's a fair thought, like that he'd probably turn back and he's like, uh oh. He kept running, he far as skunked on their ass.

Yeah, so he ran so far that they needed to call him to pick him up. He's like running like six miles away, just. He didn't look back. I'm in Reno. Oh my gosh. Yeah, he ran for a long time. That's, I think what's tough is,

we're talking about the ick. I think that kind of like minimizes it and makes it, gets us away from the conversation. Yeah. I get also of like your, and this goes, I think the same with like your friends or whatever, of being like, if we're in an emergency situation,

are we gonna like, is this person gonna have my back? Or do I with this person need to be fully prepared to handle things on my own? And that's probably a scary thought in general. Because you don't expect something like this to happen. It's not something you really think to plan for, but I guess you never know these days, but like, yeah. Yeah, I think it's just an uncomfortable,

unfortunate thing that happened, but it's definitely a great thing to learn from, not, I don't know, I feel bad for him. I feel so bad for him. I can't help but feel horrible for him, because you know he's probably ran away and then was just like, I feel awful. Yeah, because I think both,

I would have chosen neither of those options. I feel like it's just what you do, you just give them everything and you go. And I think they're lucky it was a fake gun. I think the brother probably could tell it was a fake gun. Cause sometimes I like, like there's the people who will have like a stapler in their, in their like sweatshirt pocket.

And like the shape of it will make you think it's a gun in their pocket or whatever. But like, yeah, normally it's like, no, you give them the stuff and you just, because your life is more important. I would be afraid of running away because I'd be afraid that they would just shoot me. That would be my thought.

That's what I don't get. Like, if I see, maybe if a guy had a knife, then maybe it's like a run situation, it's a run angle, but if somebody has a gun and you just turn tail and run, like, the advice I've heard is if someone says, give me your money, you give them your money. And then if they say, now get in the van,

then you run or invite or whatever. Like, but you're playing a risk if someone seems to have a gun and you're gonna try to beat them up, you better hope it's not a gun. Yeah, no, if there was a gun in front of me and somebody asked me to give them my stuff, I'm like, take whatever you want. Take my shoes, take the shoes. just want I just want to go home

Right you can I call an uber before you take my phone? Okay, I'll call it and it's like can you what kind of lift you get it's like it's like not preferred Order me like uber eats so that I have food when I get home. All right, dude They do really good on Candy Crush though, and you're like, sweet. But it's also, we're talking about how his response is not, wasn't his choice. It's not like she's making a choice in how she's feeling.

Her feeling is also like, she's like, I can't help but feel this way. Yeah, like she had a physical cringe. The situation sucks. Comments, whether the change in your feelings about your fiance makes you an asshole or not, you would not be doing either of you any favors by staying with him out of guilt.

That's fair. Someone said, my issue is he ran away and left you behind to defend yourself. Like if his instinct was to run away, he should have also grabbed you to run away with him. That's fair. Yeah. Or and he just didn't with him. That's fair. Yeah. Oh, and he just didn't even come back.

Like that's... Yeah, no, no, there's like a lot of like, protection layers there. So like, I understand it's like, oh, he messed up this one time. Messing up can cost you a life. Like, gender roles aside, you kind of hope that, you know, some people will really hope to feel

some sense of protection or like you want to feel safe with your person and like that's, that was a very important moment for her. And like, I think maybe she would have had, and maybe the response wouldn't have been as intense if her brother hadn't literally done the flip, you know, like she got a prime example of like the opposite of what her fiance did.

I think it almost would have been worse though. She was, if she was just with her fiance and he ran and left her by herself. Oh my God, Dev is dating. Like that's, yeah. Then that's a life. Like that's, that's wild. And it's just kind of like,

I can't be with someone who's gonna do that, you know? Lastly, someone said, that's a tough one, but imagine if your brother wasn't there. It's scary to think your partner will not have your back. I felt that ick you mentioned. It's really hard to bounce back from that. Not the asshole. Update.

Whoa. Okay. I have broken up with my fiance. Oh. I did it this quick because it was not fair to him or to me to keep this relationship just stringing along. Yes, I loved him a lot and will always cherish the memories I had with him.

But after the incident last night, I just don't have the same love for him anymore and I don't think I ever will. To be clear, I don't blame him for what he did in running away. It was his natural instinct and I completely understand that. But when my brother instinctively stepped in front of me

to shield me from the attacker in comparison to my fiance just running away scared, it pretty much evaporated most of not all of my feelings for my fiance. I've just learned about myself that one of my love languages is safety and security. I let my fiance know and I apologized and told him I don't blame him at all

for what happened the previous night. My fiance was devastated and he did cry a lot, but after some time he said he understood my decision. I still feel really guilty about it because my fiance is a really kind and sweet man, but it wouldn't be fair to him if my heart wasn't in it. He deserves to be in a relationship with someone who loves him for who he is, and I deserve to find someone who I wholly love." Cut to this ex-fiance walking up to a top of a mountain where there's a Shaolin monastery and becoming the world's greatest fighter. He's like, I'm gonna become Batman now.

He needs a redemption. No, but I know. That would be huge motivation for me. I'd be like, I'm gonna become the world's deadliest warrior now. Yeah, no, I think she's so right. And that was a very important moment. Like in any relationship, you learn how your partner acts

and she realized that she wants someone who she can feel safe with. And that might not be a priority. I know people that will be like, yeah, I would probably be the one punching and kicking a cyclist off or whatever. But yeah, I think that's totally fair. And the whole situation's really like,

so many awful things happening back to back. But, and I'm so sorry, I laughed when she said that he cried. I'm like, this guy. I just feel so bad for him, because I'm like, once he did that and he can't take it back, and he's probably regretting it. Because the fact that he goes, I understand. Yeah. I understand.

It's just like, oh, this one just makes me. They're lucky no one was hurt. It's so tough. All right, this one is a today I fucked up. Today I fucked up when I asked my girlfriend to come up with reasons why we might break up. Okay. My girlfriend and I were lying in bed last night,

cuddling and shit. Okay, cuddling and shitting. Cuddling and shitting. My girlfriend and I were lying in bed last night, cuddling and shit, when it dawned on me, all of a sudden, that none of my friends were in relationships anymore. All of them had broken up with their partners within the past few months,

which was more or less the same length of time my girlfriend and I had been together. I shared this revelation with my girlfriend mid-cuddle before asking her what I thought was a funny and harmless question at the time. I asked her what she thought would be the end of us and encouraged her to come up with ridiculous reasons only. Full disclosure, my girlfriend and I were both high during the inception of this fuckup,

so keep that in mind if some of our actions come across as somewhat random. Anyway, per my question, my girlfriend provided the following reasons that would cause our relationship to crumble. If I stopped showering, if during sex I said, I'm gonna come...question mark, if I lived on the 13th floor,

if I pssed at someone whose name I knew, if I used a spoon to drink tea or coffee like it was medicine, if I literally licked my thumb before turning to the next page of a book. Wait, say that one again. If I literally licked my thumb before turning the page to the next page of a book,

if I found out she had a dildo replica of her ex's penis, I paused my girlfriend when she got to the seventh reason and asked her if number seven was something real or ridiculous because it sounded a lot less random than the other reasons. My girlfriend said it was both real and ridiculous while laughing because at that point,

the atmosphere in the room was still lighthearted. I asked her why she still had her ex's fake penis in her possession. She shrugged and said it was a decent dildo. I was about to ask her if she still used the dildo, but she predicted my question and said it's been a long time since she used it. I think my face was beginning to show my mixed feelings

because my girlfriend decided to tickle me out of the blue until I laughed. I did laugh, thanks to the tickle, but I was unable to forget about the clone-O'Willie situation. It was bugging me. I had to see it, so I asked my girlfriend to show it to me. She reluctantly agreed to show it to me if I promised to file this whole situation under

something that means nothing and move on. I promised. Ah, dude. No, I don't wanna see it. We know. Look, if I'm dude in that situation, I do not wanna see it. I don't wanna know. Just put it in the garbage cast it to the shadow realm For someone who said she struggled to remember when last she used the dildo my girlfriend didn't even have to think about where she stored

It just in case it's unclear we were in her flat as soon as I witnessed the clone dildo with my own two eyes I knew oh, yeah, that shit was gonna live rent free in the back of my mind. Of course it was big. I mean, what other size is there when it comes to Xs? That's so good. My girlfriend asked if I wanted her to get rid of it. My mind said yes, but my mouth said it was her choice. She shrugged and said it was just another sex toy.

I said a promise is a promise before deciding to make us some coffee, which I drank with a spoon. Playing the breakup game was not the smartest decision on my part. Now I'm cursed with the knowledge that my girlfriend not only kept her ex's cloned cock, but most likely used it whenever she wanted,

which may or may not have been during our relationship. Ooh, wee. Um. No, uh-uh. Uh. What's the knife, the big rectangle knife? What? We What Now is not the time for secrets Oh! Oh! Mary, you know what the romance is? I have a date, Venus. Oh my God. No, I was asking the name of something.

That's so crazy. So Shane doesn't know this, but. Please, please, no! I was asking the name of something because I just pictured them like, okay, great. So they're gonna get a cleaver and they're gonna chop it up and throw it away. And I was asking him what a cleaver was.

That was a bunch of weird sentences I just said. Okay, but none of which was a secret. Courtney's words were, what's the big rectangular knife? So one is, I mean, he's high, he's high, but at least like the next day it's like, hey man, that makes me really uncomfortable. Yeah, you have every right to be like, hey. There's also the but at least like the next day, it's like, hey man, that makes me really uncomfortable. Yeah, you have every right to be like, hey. There's also the other element of like,

it's kind of weird that you have your ex's dildo, not just on behalf of your current boyfriend, but on behalf of your ex too. Yeah. Like that's kind of weird. Yeah, yeah. Like I feel like that's something that should probably go with the relationship.

I'm very much like, I don't know, when I got out of a relationship, when I get out of a relationship, it's like, if there are things that, like, very strongly, like, connect me to that, like, things that I own, like, even if it's, like, clothes or a hoodie or something, I'm like, I just want to get rid of it. Like, I'm kind of closing the chapter on that.

I don't want to have anything that I look at it, and it makes me think of like that person. Right. Having a dildo of your ex, like... That's wild. That's insane. Obviously, I'm not in that situation, but if I was the ex in this scenario and they broke up, I'd be like, hey, please get rid of that.

Get rid of my penis. Get rid of my penis. You can go get another one. You can. They have teams of people designing fantastic dildos just for you. Get rid of my penis. Get rid of my penis. You can go get it. You can. Get another one. They have teams of people designing fantastic dildos just for you. Call now. If I found that that would be, no, I think that would be a deal breaker for me.

That would be like, that's not something I don't think I could get over that. A lot of comments. OP, you're allowed to change your mind and bring this up again in a measured and honest and sober conversation. If it's bothering you, please do. Spell out all your complicated feelings. Don't make demands or accusations.

Trust that she loves you and has your best interest at heart. It sounds like you guys have a great relationship. Jealousy is amorphous and all-encompassing. It moves in the shadows. It doesn't have to make sense. Own it by exposing it to the light. Wow, okay. Someone said a lot of people saying, oh, it's inanimate and meaningless. My brother, that shit would eat me up too. Lastly, someone said play the reverse scenario. You have a clone of your ex's vagina sitting around that you use at will.

I think that would be hurtful to your partner. Listen to your inner self. This is an important growth moment. Be vulnerable and ask for what you need. Don't set yourself on fire to keep others warm. An open, honest relationship is the healthiest relationship. This is how you build one. It sounds like you're ignoring your feelings to try to appear secure. Secure people don't hide their feelings.

They express them and look for people who accept them. Don't burn yourself to keep other people's warm. That's a good one. Update. Whoa. Based on my original post, the consensus was that I'd be honest with my girlfriend about how I feel regarding her ex's clone-a-willy dildo

that she still owned. I was building up towards sharing my feelings with my girlfriend, but she beat me to it and ended up telling me that she got rid of her ex's clone-a-willy because she could tell how much it bothered me. I confirmed what she said about my feelings and thanked her for disposing of her ex's dick. My girlfriend said I should not be thanking her yet

because she was not 100% honest with me when she initially said that she used her ex's clonowilly a long time ago. At that moment, I knew she was gonna tell me that she used the clonowilly during her relationship with her ex, which was whatever, and during her relationship with me, which was where it kind of became a gray area

for a current boyfriend perspective. My girlfriend came clean about using her ex's clona willy until the two of us finally figured each other out sexually. I understood what she was saying. The chemistry between us was there since the beginning of our relationship, but the first few times we had sex was a bit of a learning curve for both of us.

The sex was enjoyable for the most part, but despite our best efforts, we struggled to get each other off for some reason. During that time, my girlfriend said she low key relied on her ex's clona willy, which apparently made her orgasm without fail. Call me insecure or whatever, but hearing that made me go ouch on the inside.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My girlfriend said the irony of relying on her ex's clona willy while we struggled to find our sweet spot in the bedroom was the fact that she realized later on that her attachment to something from the past might have prevented her from fully committing

to something in the present or something like that. She said it better. My girlfriend assured me that when she told me her ex's clona willy was just another sex toy, she meant it. Because that's what it became eventually when she learned to let go of lingering feelings and fully embrace the new connection she had with me. She made it sound like one of the reasons

our sex life became the complete package it is now was due to the fact that she stopped using the clona willy as her main source to get off. She apologized for not being vulnerable enough to unpack the impact her ex had on the beginning stages of our relationship and promised that her flat was now free of all her ex's clona willy dildos. I thought she implied that there was more than one clona willy as a joke to get a reaction out of me, but as soon as she opened the garbage bin I realized her ex really loved cloning his dick. I counted three, including the one I knew about. The other two were both glow in the dark.

My girlfriend and I laughed about it. I have a feeling we're gonna be okay. That said, I'm not sure I'll easily forget about her well-endowed ex-boyfriend who peaced out of his relationship with my girlfriend by leaving behind not one, not two, but three of his dicks. Wow. Three. Wow.

Three. Wow. What? Three penises. Three penises? Oh. What four? Whatever four.

Two are glow in the dark. Well, maybe I get having one glow in the dark and one not. What's, why do you need? Look, I don't know, man. I don't know. I have no idea. There's a lot going on. I learned, I've't know, man. I don't know. I have no idea. There's a lot going on.

I learned, I've been exposed to a lot of situations I've never thought of before. Yeah, I know, this is crazy. As it goes with every Reddit stories. I think what you also could have done in this situation is it's like, you see their three penises, it's like, all right, we're gonna get rid of them. And he's like, for sure.

Then he grabs one and he just goes, all right, we're gonna get rid of him. And he's like, for sure. Then he grabs one and he just goes, all right, we must duel. That's awesome. You could do that. I thought the update was gonna be, she has a clone X and it's the horse. He's fully there. Props to them, they communicated.

I will say bravo to him for getting over that. Because that's tough. And that's really, really awesome that she kind of proactively was like, I can tell that bothered him. I'm gonna do this. Like I was hoping that this could be like a learning moment once again.

Yeah. Yeah. My only hangup, I think, cause I think it is like really good how they communicated and how they were honest. My only hangup is that when she says like, I was using them at the start until we kind of found our sexual groove. I think that if she had gotten rid of them at that point

Then it would have been like more like okay, like I get it You were kind of putting that thing in the past but the fact that she then still held on to them It's a lie. Don't get me wrong. I'm thinking in my and if I'm in this situation even after this conversation I don't know if I can do this. Like, I just, I think I'd be like, I'm never gonna get that out of my head. I'm sorry. Yeah. I can't.

Like, that's tough. I don't know how much toys like that may cost. Like, obviously she has a healthy relationship with her body and stuff. But yeah, I can understand, like, she just maybe just didn't get around to replacing them. Like, everybody has, like, their needs and stuff. But yeah, it's the idea of it that's like, whoa.

Anyways, a lot to think about today. A lot to think about. Specifically, a lot to glow in the dark penises. Yeah. Think about. Yeah, a lot of those to think about penises. Yeah. Think about. Yeah, a lot of those to think about. Thank you both for being here. These were some crazy breakups.

Hey, thanks for having me, Shane. It's been an honor, it's been a pleasure. Really good to be here as always, hanging out with you here on the Reddit stories. What the hell? The hell, man? Okay. Anyways, um... Let me know your thoughts on these stories

down below because these ones blew my mind. And let us know what other themes and subreddits you want us to cover on this show. And we will see you next Saturday. Yeah, and if you ever want to test your boyfriend, do the bicyclist mugger test. How about someone try to mug you? Where a cyclist comes up, pulls out a glow-in-the-dark dildo, and is like,

hey, give me your money. Give me your money! This is a gun! They're like, oh, he says it's a gun! Bye! Okay, all right, we'll see you later. Bye! Bye.