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Episode Date: November 2, 2024

You never know who someone really is until you travel with them. 0:00 Intro 2:03 I refused my friend joining my trip https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/1depztu/aita_for_refusing_when_my_...friend_wanted_to_join/ 15:52 I left my friend in the middle of the Grand Canyon https://www.rareddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/1fdgtkv/aita_for_parting_with_my_friend_midway_through_a/ 29:09 My gf wants to go camping alone with another guy https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/2bc160/my_24_m_girlfriend_21_f_wants_to_go_on_an_out_of/ 41:46 Traveling overseas to meet my bf but he cancels https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/9vlueu/i_29f_am_traveling_overseas_to_meet_my_online/ 49:50 I left a couples trip in the middle of the night https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/v8ppzf/aita_for_leaving_a_couples_trip_in_the_middle_of/ SUBSCRIBE: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshPit WEAR OUR JOKES: https://smosh.com WHO YOU HEAR Ian Hecox // https://www.instagram.com/ianhecox/ Shayne Topp // https://www.instagram.com/shaynetopp/ Amanda Lehan-Canto // https://www.instagram.com/filmingamanda/ WHO YOU DON’T HEAR (usually) Director: Bailey Petracek Editor: Rock Coleman Director of Programming, Smosh Pit: Emily Rose Jacobson Associate Producer, Smosh Pit: Bailey Petracek Production Designer: Cassie Vance Art Director: Erin Kuschner Assistant Art Director: Josie Bellerby Art Coordinator: Alex Aguilar Prop Master: Courtney Chapman Audio Mixer: Scott Neff Audio Utility: Dina Ramli Director of Photography: Brennan Iketani Camera Operator: James Hull Camera Operator: Eric Wann Assistant Director: Alexcina Figueroa Executive Vice President of Production: Amanda Barnes Production Manager: Alexcina Figueroa Production Coordinator: Zianne Hoover Operations & Production Coordinator: Oliver Wehlander Production Assistant: Quincy Bell Post Production Manager: Luke Baker DIT/Lead AE: Matt Duran IT: Tim Baker Director of Design: Brittany Hobbs Senior Manager, Channel & Strategy: Lizzy Jones Channel Operations Coordinator: Audrey Carganilla Director of Social Media: Erica Noboa Social Creative Producer: Peter Ditzler, Tommy Bowe Merchandising Manager: Mallory Myers Social Media Coordinator: Kim Wilborn Social Media Intern: Mailyn Stiffler Talent Coordinator: Selina Garcia Operations PA: Katie Fink CEO: Alessandra Catanese EVP of Programming: Kiana Parker Coordinator Producer of Programming: Marcus Munguia Executive Coordinator: Rachel Collis OTHER SMOSHES: Smosh: https://smo.sh/Sub2Smosh Smosh Games: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshGames El Smosh (Spanish Dub): https://smo.sh/Sub2ElSmosh SmoshCast: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshCast FOLLOW US: TikTok: https://smo.sh/TikTok Snapchat: http://smo.sh/OnSnapchat Instagram: https://instagram.com/smosh Facebook: https://facebook.com/smosh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:57 I'm Shane, and today it's all about travel. And I am joined by two weary travelers, Ian and Amanda. Hello. So, travel stories. So, these stories are all about travel. And I am joined by two weary travelers, Ian and Amanda. Hello. So travel stories. So these stories are all about travel. We've done travel stories before. A lot of drama happens in regards to travel, you know?
Starting point is 00:01:14 Who you go on a trip with, how trips go, planes. Passport bros. We did travel stories together. Yeah. Here, right here on Reddit. And now we're doing it again. Have you recently traveled at all? Port bros. We did travel stories together. Yeah. Here, right here on Reddit. Coming back to the Sequel. Now we're doing it again.
Starting point is 00:01:26 The Sequel. Have you recently traveled at all? You know I have. Yeah, okay. Yes, I've traveled a lot this year. I went to Florida. Oh, wow. I went to Cape Cod.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Okay. And then I went to Greece. And you talked about this on Smosh Mouth, but going on your trip with your family, there was a little bit of drama here and there. Yeah. As I think of your- There's four sisters and one mother.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah. That's five Portuguese women in one place. That's a lot of- All trying to choose dinner. That's a lot. Where did you travel to, bud? Well, my passport was expired for a whole year. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:06 What? How did you let that happen? It just happened. One day I looked at my passport and went, oh, this is old. So I, and then, you know, like I didn't want to, like I tried to get it renewed and like went to FedEx and I was like, I heard you guys renew passports. And they're like, no, we don't.
Starting point is 00:02:23 And I was like, OK. So just kind of sat in they're like, no we don't. And I was like, okay. So just kind of sat in my room for a while and then I did it online. It was super duper easy. Whoa, really? Yeah. Okay. I took my passport photo here at the office
Starting point is 00:02:37 with like crappy light and they accepted it. You're like smoshed? Yeah. Photo doesn't look great, but I got my passport so I'm ready to I'm ready. Yeah, okay. Where are you going? Have you planned I want to go to Austria But I feel like I kind of like I want to go like when it's like green and there's waterfalls And I feel like now it's probably gotten snowy our first one comes from am I the asshole? Am I the asshole for refusing when my friend wanted to join my fiance and I on our first trip together?
Starting point is 00:03:08 Here now I a 22 year old woman and my fiance a 23 year old man are going on our first trip together I'm really excited as this is my first time on a plane and even leaving the state. I've lived in my whole life We've been planning for this trip since earlier this year and we've gotten our tickets tickets as well as accommodations. Altogether, we've already spent about $4,500 on everything, which has been something we've been saving for as we're both college students. Our trip is in about a month, and in comes my friend, we'll call her Ashley, she's 22, who's been my friend for about a year.
Starting point is 00:03:38 She'd brought up going to Japan as well, kind of jokingly, when we told her about the trip. I didn't think she was serious, but then she brought it up a few more times, even saying that she had a family member she could stay with. She asked if she could spend some time during the days joining us on our adventures while this family member was at work.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I was supportive of this idea, as I know this would be her first time in Japan as well, and I care about her. However, when she told me she wanted to get the tickets, her family member no longer would have space for her to stay. She wants to know if she can stay in our accommodations and join us on our flight back home.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I let her know that our accommodation has strict rules against having more than two people, and there's only one small bed in this studio. She said she'd be fine sleeping anywhere on the floor or couch, et cetera. I told her I'd be more comfortable if we didn't chance a fee or getting in trouble in general, as I really just want a comfortable stay. I told her that we're more comfortable if we didn't chance a fee or getting in trouble in general as I really just want
Starting point is 00:04:25 A comfortable stay I told her that we're still willing to spend time with her during the day And I began sending her accommodations in her budget I was hoping this would be enough instead She's just asking if we can cancel our accommodations and pay for larger accommodations that can have a bed for her as well Mind you she's not saying she will help us pay for the more expensive bed for her as well. Mind you, she's not saying she will help us pay for the more expensive accommodation or anything else for that matter. She simply just wants to stay with us and for us to pay for a different accommodation. It seems like no matter what I say she just keeps trying to manipulate me into letting her stay
Starting point is 00:04:55 with us. This is also hard because I know my fiance and I really wanted this to be a romantic trip for us both as we likely won't be able to afford another for a few years as we finish school. I'm just stuck on what to say or do and if I'm the asshole here, should I be okay with my friends staying in our accommodations and joining in our trip? I can't with this one.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Wow. I mean, it's cause they're 22. I mean, come on. I feel like there's just like zero self-awareness. Some people just aren't self-aware. I think, yes, I agree, but also immediately would have been like, no. Yeah, oh. No.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Yeah, it's- No. I don't understand also, even from the start of this, when it's like, oh yeah, my fiance and I are going on our first trip together, the thought of going, can I join? Yeah, I wanna sleep. Like, as a joke- Well, that sounds really cool.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I'll sleep on the floor. I'd love to come. Yeah. Yeah, I wanna see. Like as a joke. Well, that sounds really cool. I'll sleep on the floor. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, and this isn't the first time we've had stories where people are going on a trip and someone is like, can I join your trip to out of country? I understand being invited on someone's trip, but to, unless it's like,
Starting point is 00:06:01 People do it a lot. Unless it's siblings or like your absolute best friend, I don't understand, I would never, I would never do that. I tried to come to Greece with her and her sister. Yeah, and I was like, you can't. Cause the accommodations are so strict. And then when you were there in Greece, all of a sudden it was like, wait, who's this fourth sister?
Starting point is 00:06:18 And it was like, hi, I am Asura Kanto. Fifth sister, that would have been five sisters and one mother, that would have been six people. And your mom is like, Ian's been my favorite daughter for years. And you wanna go to dinner, Ian. I'm the short Kanto. Kanto?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Kanto. I can't believe this. And here's the thing, people weirdly do that. They'll be like, oh my God, well we've always wanted to go to Japan and maybe we'll meet you there or I'll meet you there. It's always this weird, tricky thing and it just, the worst thing to do is to be like,
Starting point is 00:06:53 no you cannot come to this country that I have no ownership of, but also, no. Well and the prospect of like, being on a trip to a country and if you have friends who are also gonna be there around the same time, but you're doing, you're going on two separate trips to the same place is what it originally sounded like. So it's like, oh, I have a family member there.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I'll go stay with them. But as soon as that doesn't work, it's like, oh, then I'm sorry, your trip is not working out. You were never on our trip to Japan. Also, this is her first time leaving the state, getting on a plane. That's super special. It's super special and she wants to spend it with her fiance. Also, put two her first time leaving the state, getting on a plane. That's super special. It's super special and she wants to spend it with her fiancé.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Also, put two and two together. You're not going to sleep on the floor in their small accommodations. Yeah, they gotta fuck. Like, well... That's what I was going to say. Sorry. And then I thought I was going to get trouble for it. I wouldn't want that.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Like, if I'm talking to friends, even if this had all been planned and I was invited to go with them... I probably would have said no. I'd have been like oh well I have to find my own accommodations I'm not staying in the same room as a couple. You imagine sleeping on the floor and then going like no kissing guys I can hear you. What are you guys doing? Eww the blankets are all moving and your legs are in the air. And then they wake up they wake up in the middle of the night and I'm standing at the foot of the bed and I'm just like, I float up. I float up. I float up.
Starting point is 00:08:12 A lot of times I don't feel good. Because it does kind of remind me of when I was in Japan for one reason and you and Damien were in Japan for another reason. And we were in Tokyo at the same time and we met up. You know, we met up a few times. But it was like, we had our own thing that we were doing. Totally. We met up in Kauai.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Yeah, we did, yeah. For lunch. We're on the same. Ian happens to always be. That's so weird, actually he was in Greece. And he was in Florida. He was surfing on a wave and I was like, hello? He's there in the lake like an alligator yeah Amanda Um, I think what what's happening here is OP is similar to me where they're afraid of confrontation
Starting point is 00:08:53 They're afraid of saying no to someone. Yeah, but something I've learned. You would have said no though Oh, yeah Well because at a certain point to you get to the point where you go, oh, I just know, I don't think this is a big deal, this is not offensive to say no. So if they're offended, that's their problem. But it's just no, it's just simply no. And I think it's not too late for them to even go, we don't even, we kinda actually want this
Starting point is 00:09:19 to be a romantic thing for just the two of us, I think we're gonna go do our own thing. And we don't really wanna. Here's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking OP's friend, it seems like stepping on eggshells because if they're that close, it seems like the friend gets mad about.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And also remember, there's always a friend who gets kind of either cool or upset with a couple. It's kind of always like a weird line there. Yeah, interesting. Not the asshole, in my opinion. Oh, definitely not the asshole. Comments here, not the asshole, but you will be if you allow her to go.
Starting point is 00:09:54 This was to be a romantic trip for you and your boyfriend. She invited herself claiming she had someone she could stay with. This was probably false all along, and she waited until the last minute to ask if she could stay with you, thinking she could guilt you into it Then when you told her no she wanted you to pay for a larger accommodation so she could stay but she offered you no
Starting point is 00:10:10 Money chances are she has also she also has no money for accommodations or food and plan to mooch off you and your boyfriend Oh all your sightseeing and meals just just tell her no you are not willing for her to join at all Maybe sometime in the future, but this is just a trip for you and your boyfriend. That could all be true. I also don't, we don't know. Some people are also, there are people out there who are just unaware and totally just like not thinking things through. I'm not saying that's what this commenter is saying isn't true. It could be but that wouldn't be my initial thought
Starting point is 00:10:46 It also doesn't matter you say no. Yeah Someone else said not the asshole, but this is a no-brainer. You aren't being honest with her Stop using accommodations as an excuse and tell her the truth This is your first trip with your fiancee the two of you have planned it carefully for just the two of you your plans are Final they cannot be changed you look forward to traveling with her in the future But not on this trip if she was truly a close friend She would have had the good sense not to try and force herself on you You haven't known her very long at all
Starting point is 00:11:13 You may just now be seeing her the real her if she doesn't drop the subject immediately then drop her She's an acquaintance not a friend. Oh, so that's her. Let's see. Did they I thought it was like best friends for very long Yeah incomes incomes my friend Ashley who's been a friend about a year Oh, that's a lot for after a year. I yeah this this year Maybe it's not like everyday kind of friend. This is that's shocking though for that quick. Like I think but I think like the like That's shocking though for that quick. I think, but I think like the like, mooching thing like kind of like has me a little bit. Like I somewhat suspect that.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Now with it, with that amount of time, that does fit a lot better. They're also still in college they said? Yeah, yeah. Something that I also think their behavior where they're trying to find physical reasons why this person can't come on, it seems like this is someone
Starting point is 00:12:06 who's not respecting her feelings. Because it's okay to use your feelings as a reasoning for something. To being like, you know, I want this to be my husband and I. That's my reasoning. It's not that our accommodation, we could be staying in a five room hotel room.
Starting point is 00:12:23 But I want it to just be my husband and I. But this. We have to use all five rooms to bang it. She's clearly afraid of using just her emotions. Nice. Sorry. Cause this person clearly is gonna go, that's not a reason.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah. I don't know, this person's not respecting him. He has to tell her. Lastly, someone said, Ashley, it seems like a lot of things you were counting on for this trip are falling through. I think you'd better try again later when things line up for you.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Fiance and I will be taking this couple's trip without you. Yeah, like that's what she should say. Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with what you're saying about like just speaking to your feelings about. Just being like, I want this to just be my husband and I. Yeah. And that's, and. There's no real wiggle room with that.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Yeah, and if you can't respect that, then that's fucked up. Then yeah. Then you're not gonna be friends for very long. Please tell me there's an update. Update. Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 00:13:12 Okay, what do we think? Do we think it's a mooching situation, or do we think it's? Okay, I think the roommate, I think the two of them went there, and the roommate was at the hotel like, hey guys! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Roomies! That's what you do. Yeah, hey guys! Rumi's!
Starting point is 00:13:28 That's what you do. Yeah, but I mean it's our fun little thing, Amanda. I know, it's our thing that we have, that he does every time. We were on the flight to Kauai and I was walking down the aisle and I went, huh? That really happened. That really did happen, he doesn't care. I care.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Doesn't seem like he did. I care. It seems like you are not listening to our feelings. Yeah, Shane. Shane. You're not listening to our feeling. Yeah, Shane Shane Let's all go to Japan Feelings matter and then situations Yeah, I think there's some like jealousy with the girl. Yeah, the girls getting married and maybe she's not and she's like Well, I'm your friend too. And like we always do things together and then he came along but she's only been their friend for a year I know but maybe she's in well, I'm your friend too and like we always do things together and then he came along
Starting point is 00:14:05 But she's only been their friend for a no, but maybe she's in love. I was kind of reading this through thinking like this is a Ten year ten year friend know which makes a lot more sense, but a year in it's either that or mooching Can I have both options? Sure? Okay. All right. I Ended up refusing for the tenth time and told her no bluntly and as clearly as possible I also made sure to say that I wasn't down with changing anything and that I want to spend time with only my fiance That I've been trying to nicely say no, but I don't appreciate getting manipulated nor having my partners and eyes feelings ignored She said we've been talking about this trip for so long. Why didn't we just work it out earlier?
Starting point is 00:14:41 It's not my fault that this is the last that this is last minute Why won't you just do this one? It's not much different There's just an extra bed and she sent me a link to a specific accommodation where the two beds are side-by-side Just by the way She basically she basically ignored what I said so I have ignored her since we're in the same friend group So I think it's probably going to get weird But honestly I'm okay with that. Regardless of how that goes, my fiance and I will be going alone and not meeting up with her or anyone anywhere during our trip. I'm going to work on the saying no thing and setting harder boundaries. I just had an abusive upbringing and I'm still working on it all.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I keep needing to remind myself that I'm not in that place anymore." She's not the only 22-year-old out there who's really bad at saying no. Like, I was horrendous at it at that age. I had to come up with all these reasons to say no to people instead of just saying no, it's okay. Well, it's hard because some people make you feel bad about being honest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Also, the two beds together, like, girl, move on. Yeah, what the hell, man? Move on. What? ten times? I I cannot stand people who don't take no for an answer like it's it is enough of a reason for me to slowly drift away from someone because It's it's like the most Basic like form of disrespect that people can do is like you go like oh, no. I know thanks
Starting point is 00:16:03 And then there's like yeah, but I'm not gonna like thinking about this. It's like you go like, oh no, no thanks, and then they're just like, yeah, but I'm not gonna listen to that. But you're not really like thinking about this. It's just like, hey man, just listen to that. Truly. That's all, that's all. Tell me there's pictures of them in Japan. No. Did they have a good time?
Starting point is 00:16:16 Whoa! They got pictures. Examine this girl in the background like this. Like a grudge. Well that's, all right. That's it. Well, she did the right thing. She did the right thing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yes. We're happy for her. Our next story is a doozy. Let's go. I've read this one. Whoa. And it is dumb. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:16:40 This was on Am I the Asshole and it got reposted onto Am I the Devil. So this is a real piece of shit here. Am I the asshole for partying with my friend midway through a Grand Canyon hike? Sorry, partying or partying? Partying. Partying. Partying.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Like I am parting ways with you now. From my friend. Do you imagine partying in the middle of the Grand Canyon? Okay. That's true. Set up some speakers, some lights. Oh, sick. Partying in the middle of the Grand Canyon? Sounds pretty sick. That's true. Set up some speakers, some lights. Oh, sick. Partying in the Grand Canyon would be dope.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah. I wanna do that. Unless there's a flash flood. Yeah. Yeah. My friend Crystal and I spent six months planning and training for a very intense all-day hike of the Grand Canyon. We would go down South Kaibab and Upright Angel
Starting point is 00:17:22 on Crystal's birthday in June, which would be over 100 degrees. Two weeks before the hike, our friend Valerie said she wanted to join us. Valerie looks way fitter than us, she does CrossFit and has a six pack, and we assumed she would be fine. On the trip leading up to the hike, Valerie was eating salad while Crystal and I were carb loading with pasta and pizza. Crystal and I each bought four liters of water, trail mix, and granola bars, and believed
Starting point is 00:17:45 Valerie had packed her bag with the same, as it was all in the hotel room for all of us to share when we packed up the night before. About half the way down, Crystal and I realized that at the pace Valerie was going, and thus the rest of us, we would not finish the hike before sundown. We told Valerie about our concerns, and she said we should just hike ahead without her and that she would either catch up or if it was too much turn back. We asked if she was really sure about it and she said she was so off we went. When we got to the bottom of the canyon we waited for about an hour at the Colorado River
Starting point is 00:18:16 but did not see her. At that point we really had to get going so we would finish the trail before nightfall. We tried to call her from a pay phone but got her voicemail. None of us had reception. We explained the situation to a ranger and they said they'd look out for her. When we were close to the top and it was actually already dark, we got reception and got messages from her that she had collapsed and had to stay at the lodge at the bottom of the canyon. The lodge is booked months out, but I guess they hold some emergency beds.
Starting point is 00:18:42 She would hike out the next day with another group and said not to worry about her. Both Crystal and I were totally destroyed physically, but we got in the car, went and demolished a pizza, then went to sleep at the hotel. Oddly, we found half of Valerie's water and all of Valerie's food at the hotel. I don't want to make too many assumptions about her, but I think it's clear enough to say that it seemed clear she didn't know how to eat during or before a hike, despite our guidance. The next day, Valerie said she would be up by 3 p.m. I was planning to pick her up. However,
Starting point is 00:19:10 the one update we got from her was that she would be hours late. 6 p.m. rolled around and she still wasn't up. I left her a voicemail letting her know we needed to continue on to our next hotel one hour away. We were both feeling really beat up and I didn't think I would have the energy to do the drive much later. I told her in the voicemail that I'd pay for her to Uber to the hotel. Just tell me how much it was. At around 10 p.m. Valerie called me furious.
Starting point is 00:19:34 It took her over 13 hours to hike up and she almost didn't make it. She was suffering from sunstroke. She said she could have died because we abandoned her and we were really selfish not to stay with her. Okay. This is the dumbest shit. I'm in a nightmare right now.
Starting point is 00:19:49 So all of the stupidness is before they, is allowing her to go on this. Yeah. Because people who don't hike regularly probably underestimate how intense it is. Also the Grand Canyon, I think for a lot of people they think like, oh, it's a, you hike down into the canyon back
Starting point is 00:20:05 Up it's like it's Massive that's like what three two thousand feet gigantic honest. I hiked the Grand Canyon when I was seven and it was easy in Keds There's home video of it fuck yeah, and I was like mom. Why didn't you pack me good shoes? She was like I forgot we also don't know, we also don't know which hike they're doing. Exactly. A million hikes. Sounds like they're doing an aggressive one. I think it was called Blue Angel.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah, South Kaibab to whatever angel. But this is the thing, they're like, oh, she's really fit. It's like, yeah, but there's fit. And then there's like hiking shape. There's a difference fit. I mean, unless she needs to do a bunch of, Yeah. On her ledge.
Starting point is 00:20:44 We have to climb up the side of the cliff and she's just like Just a clear Like it's its own unique thing. I mean, it's really wasn't prepared It was really dumb of them to accept like they should have been like no like I'm sorry this we've been planning this for months We've been training for months. We don't feel comfortable bringing on someone that we can't be. Because she didn't train with them. No. This is two weeks before. And that's dangerous.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Super dangerous. Super dangerous. No, it's like, I'm sorry. This is 100 degree weather, an intense hike. Yes. We have to be accountable for each other. I don't think it was great for them to leave her behind. I was going to say that.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Oh, no, no, no, no. Leaving her behind is the dumbest thing of it all. Even if she said, leaving her behind, you never leave someone alone. No, it's 100 degrees. You're doing an intense hike. And you know better than anybody. I know better than anyone,
Starting point is 00:21:35 because my brother and I got lost on a hike once. But it's one of the rules. You don't go off trail, and you don't leave anyone alone. Ever. And the second they had that, but she's not an experienced hiker, she's going, oh no, go on without me. At that point they go, no, we have to turn back.
Starting point is 00:21:51 We simply have to, we're not gonna make it there. We three are one unit, we're not gonna make it together, so we're turning back, I'm sorry. Sorry. So then was this like a loop, it wasn't like an out and back? It sounds like an out-and-back to me Because they would have passed her in that case. Oh, you're right
Starting point is 00:22:08 So it is a it was it is a loop and maybe it's it's down one side out the other They went down to the Colorado River and then they must have gone up a they go up a different side. Yeah took her 13 hours Yeah, well, yeah, she's probably high. Also. she had sunstroke. She had sunstroke, dude. She was fucked. Oh, absolutely destroyed. And they left her twice. Because they get up, they abandoned her there, which is really dumb. They get to the bottom, they go, well, we got to keep going.
Starting point is 00:22:34 So they abandoned her again. And then at the top, they're like, well, we got to get to our next hotel. They abandoned her three times. Yeah, that's crazy. Why do you have to get to your next hotel? I was going to say that. They're like, we got to go smash a pizza, dude.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Demolish a pizza? Honey, you've demolished too many pizzas. No, they're really inconsiderate. This is why it's dumb. It's like, you clearly didn't care that much about bringing this person on your hike. Also, getting an Uber from somewhere near the Grand Canyon to your next hotel,
Starting point is 00:23:03 that's gonna cost more than just booking a new hotel. Just stay for a second. We're in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, get an Uber. Just wait for her, like, just literally wait and be like, hey, we're not gonna arrive till 10 p.m. Our friend has fucking heat stroke. Yeah, this is all insane,
Starting point is 00:23:19 and also the fact that they were on the hike and then they were like, oh, we realized, like, we gave her guidance and she didn't bring anything. It's like, before you leave that morning, be like, what's in your pack? Yeah. What are you bringing? Show us what's in your pack.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Straight up though, I'm like, you guys didn't actually give much of a shit about it. No, they're like, uh-oh, she didn't pack. Well, here we go. It's like. This is, it's mind blowing to me. I mean, she could have died. Straight up, could have died.
Starting point is 00:23:44 This is what could have realistically happened. They abandon her. She's by herself. And she just falls. Like, falls somewhere. And she's by herself. Like, that's what happens. Like, when my brother and I got lost and we were lost for, like, a whole day, I was immediately realizing, like, it was such a wake-up call for me
Starting point is 00:24:00 of, like, what's actually scary in nature, because I was not scared of bears or wolves or anything. Bad ass. No, you're because I was not scared of bears or wolves or anything. Bad ass. No, you're not. You're scared of falling. Running out of water. And we did run out of water very quickly.
Starting point is 00:24:11 You're scared of falling. Which was like, oh, since then, since getting lost, I'm like, I'm bringing so much fucking water with me. But also, I'm like, if I just fall and break my ankle. And now my brother has to just go on for hours and find someone and then come back and find my exact location. That is so scary.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Like I was like, oh, that's how you die in the middle of nowhere. That's why you never leave someone by themselves. No. This is so stupid. Especially the Grand Canyon, lots of people die in the Grand Canyon. Oh my God, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Well, it's a hundred degrees. And it's treacherous. This is maybe the dumbest story I've ever read on this. I mean everybody was pretty There's a lot of stupidness, but these experienced hikers Yeah They should have leaving someone by themselves who they know is an inexperienced hiker is the crazy sounds like they weren't experienced because if they were They would never leave someone behind. That's true. They trained but I don't think they're they train for themselves They would never leave someone behind. That's true. They trained, but I don't think they're...
Starting point is 00:25:04 They trained for themselves. Yeah, I don't even know how they could walk off and be fine with it. I bet she was embarrassed and was like, please go. Totally. And even if it gets to that point, it's like, no. But it's just a hardline rule. It's a hardline rule of you just don't do that.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah. Especially these conditions. 100 degrees? I don't do that. Especially these conditions. 100 degrees? I don't care where you are. You could be anywhere. And if it's 100 degrees, you're not going to leave someone behind. Yeah, and also if she was under-equipped,
Starting point is 00:25:36 what did they leave her with? Yeah, well, they said they didn't until they got back to the hotel room and saw that most of her food was there. Most of the water and food was there. They were like, oh, she must not have brought anything. It's like, were you not checking on her at all before you left?
Starting point is 00:25:51 Like, I just, this is just shocking to me. It's just weird. Just say no to this person. Like, why did you do any of this? They kind of just seem like they don't give a shit about her at all. No, cause this is their dream to do this hike. They've been training for it,
Starting point is 00:26:06 and that's all they cared about. But then say no to this person. Not that I'm excusing what they did. Yeah. But say no to her then. When she's like, can I join the hike? It's two weeks out. It's just like, no. You can't. But how old are they? It doesn't say their ages.
Starting point is 00:26:19 It doesn't say their ages. I'm going to guess late 20s. Yeah, me too. Early 30s. Like, obviously, this wouldn't be the same level, but like, imagine if you were like training for a marathon and then like a week before I'm like, yeah, can I join? It would just be like, no, man. Mile one, you're like, go on without me.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Yes, you can. Yes, join, Shay. Some comments here. I know what that means. When you were noticing she was eating salad, I would have stopped her immediately. Better yet, don't invite people to go on difficult trails that you don't know are experienced enough
Starting point is 00:26:50 to have the long endurance required. Why not make sure she packed her food and water? So many opportunities here to back out or advise. Since you did invite her and have her as part of your group, you also took on the responsibility of making sure she doesn't die. Never leave your team on the trail. Take her back up, send her to the hotel, anything except just leave her.
Starting point is 00:27:09 You're the asshole. Next time, don't take people with you on potentially deadly hikes. Whoa, mic drop. So true. Someone else said, you're the asshole for trying to do a rim to river and back day hike in June. That's really dangerous. Whoa, that's...
Starting point is 00:27:23 Yeah, the hike itself sounds insane. Yeah. Someone else said, you're the asshole, that's how people die at the Grand Canyon. You shouldn't have let her come. If you let her come, you don't ever abandon someone like that. I fully agree.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Whoa, getting roasted. Once you say yes, they are your responsibility. You're fully responsible for them. They have so many opportunities. I must have done that exact hike in my kids. That must have been the hike that I did. Must have been the one. Yeah, I did that barefoot and it was easy.
Starting point is 00:27:49 It was actually pretty easy. I was six. I climbed. And I'm pretty sure it was 110 degrees when I did it. Yeah, it was just crazy. And the Colorado River was rushing, so we had to swim across. And I went in, fucking nose dived in there.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Yeah, and I did it no problem. Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty easy. I even caught a fish while I was down there. Oh, with my teeth. Yeah. Yeah, it no problem. Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty easy. I even caught a fish while I was down there. Oh, with my teeth. Yeah. Yeah, it was like 150 degrees. Yeah, it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And I didn't have any water, but I was fine. Yeah. So anyways, what's going on with these kids? Oh, so dumb. Is there an update? No. They got heat stroke from all that roasting. Yeah, baby.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Straight up. Nice. I can't believe that, dude. Yeah, that's- That is dumb, dumb, dumb. That's so dumb. I can't believe that, dude. Yeah, that's. That is dumb, dumb, dumb. So dumb. That's why when people are like, you know in Kauai, speaking of Kauai,
Starting point is 00:28:30 you know how they put on the rocks like how many people died in this area? Yeah. That's what they do in attractions. They're like, this is how many tourists have died here. Good luck. They're not, because they're just like, don't do dumb things.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Yeah. But so many people do, and then those like beautiful parts of nature that is kawaii get shut down And it's just I don't underestimate nature It's I think hiking especially people underestimate because if you do it right and most the time hikes feel can feel very Chill and very like oh, how could that be dangerous? That was such a nice day. But it's like one small thing goes wrong and a hike turns into the deadliest shit you've ever dealt with.
Starting point is 00:29:12 No, when my brother and I got lost and it started off very dumb, it started off with, our camp is probably down there, so if we cut off the trail here, cut to 12 hours later, us hiking. So scary. He straight up did Donner Party. Dude, actually, it was so dumb,
Starting point is 00:29:30 and ever since then, it's like, never. Never again. I don't care. Don't go off trail. No, ego will get you killed on a hike. Yeah. All right, moving on to our next story. Our next story is an old one. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:29:44 A 10-year-old story. But next story is an old one. Oh. 10 year old story. Old timey. But sometimes these old ones are the craziest. He's gonna be talking about watching the Big Bang Theory. Yeah, I was gonna say. Okay, we're watching Game of Thrones. This show is always gonna be good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:58 This comes from our relationships. This is a 24 year old man. My girlfriend, who's 21, wants to go on an out of state camping trip alone with another guy, who's also 24. Okay? Hot. Awesome. Got it.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Hot. So I love my girlfriend, and I do trust her, but every girlfriend I've ever had has cheated on me, and I'm terribly insecure about her spending alone time with someone in a situation like this. We've been together for two years now. I met her my senior year of college because my college town was her hometown.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I moved up to her college town to live with her after I graduated and I found a great job there. For months she's been talking about us going to Maine to camp for a week for vacation with one of her best friends. Let's call him Kyle and his girlfriend. I've never met Kyle since my girlfriend lives two hours from him now, but she was very open with me when I asked her best friends. Let's call him Kyle and his girlfriend. I've never met Kyle since my girlfriend lives two hours from him now, but she was very open with me when I asked her about him.
Starting point is 00:30:49 He's been one of her closest friends since middle school. They liked each other for a bit through the years, and the summer after she graduated high school, she had sex with him, but it never went anywhere because she was going to school and he ended up meeting this girl, his current girlfriend, let's call her Anna, soon after. They've been together since.
Starting point is 00:31:05 So I was all down for a couple's trip. Well, recently I found out the week they had planned I'm being sent out of state for business and can't take it off. And now Kyle's girlfriend can't go either, so it will just be my girlfriend and Kyle on the coast of Maine camping and spending alone time together for a week. I asked her what Anna thinks of this and she said she's only met Anna a few times, that she knows my girlfriend and her boyfriend had a sexual past, but that it's okay
Starting point is 00:31:30 because she trusts him and knows how excited my girlfriend and him are to catch up and see a new state. I wanna tell her no, but I can't be that boyfriend. It's the only week she has off between summer and fall semester and she said her friend Kyle is moving to North Carolina for a new job in September, so she will probably not see him for a long, long time. It wouldn't be fair to expect her to stay home her only week off from school, because
Starting point is 00:31:54 I have to go on a business trip either. But I can't help but feel it's unfair to me to run off with an old flame slash current friend. It just seems really off to me. I've never met this guy. I don't know his motives, and he's going to be sleeping with my girlfriend and our dog in a tent for a week How do I tell her I don't want to go alone together? Without being controlling douche fuck. Thanks reddit
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Starting point is 00:34:00 hey, I'm letting you know how I'm feeling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm feeling really uncomfortable about this. I think he should. You slept with this guy, and you guys are about to be in the woods together for a week. Yeah. That makes me feel a little weird.
Starting point is 00:34:12 It makes me feel blank. Does it not make you feel a little weird, too? No, I think he should definitely. Because if I'm in her position, I'm not going on this trip. It's also, we're talking about, you know, and this isn't fair, because plenty of people who are this age are not going to do stuff. But it's just, when're talking about, you know, and this isn't fair, because plenty of people who are this age are not gonna do stuff, but it's just, when you're young,
Starting point is 00:34:28 like, and figuring yourself out, it's just like, they've been dating for... Like, fuck it, let's just hang out. They've been dating for two years, but it's just like, you know, they're so young and stuff, and I just, and he's been cheated on before. It's just tricky, and it's scary. I think, like like you're talking,
Starting point is 00:34:46 we're coming from a place of like relationships that we have a lot more security in, I think. But for him. It's definitely tricky. I think he should be honest. I don't think he's wrong at all for feeling uncomfortable. No, no, no. No, I don't think he's wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I also wonder if he's not communicating how he's feeling about this whole situation at all. If he's like, no, no, it's fine. Yeah. It's fine. No, no, it's fine. So I wonder if she's going along with it because she has no idea how uncomfortable it makes. Exactly. And I think speaking anecdotally about young relationships. When I was younger in relationships,
Starting point is 00:35:26 I think what was different was just I was bad at communicating. So I was operating out of a place of nervousness. And I think that's often the difference when we're reading stories about really young people is they're not communicating as clearly to each other or being as honest, because they'll doubt themselves as he's doing.
Starting point is 00:35:42 And so yeah, I think that's possible that they're just not seeing what this looks like Here's my thing these relationships. It's like you want to trust your partner. Here's a perfect way to start trusting your partner I don't know. You can't gain trust by being like don't do it, right? No, I do agree with I don't know because because I think like if he says you can't go, then he's acting on his insecurities. Yes. She's never done anything to him that's ever made him question her loyalty.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Yes. So I think I... So now he's already not trusting her. Yeah, so I think... He did explain, he's like, I've been cheated on a bunch before so he's He's being very upfront of just like I feel insecure in this area. Yeah, and that's totally Yeah, it's not an ideal
Starting point is 00:36:33 Scenario like I recognize like yeah, clearly they were at some point They were attracted to each other and they had sex and it only ended because he met his current girlfriend. Yeah, it's tricky. It's a tricky situation. Yeah. Would you tell her not to go? No, but I would have questions. Are you guys going to be sharing a tent? What I will say, because I know it is more on the unpopular side.
Starting point is 00:36:57 It's not unpopular. This is just the perspective that I know at this stage in life after having been cheated on and stuff, of just like, if your partner's and stuff of just like if your partner is gonna cheat on you They're gonna cheat on you. That's so I do understand what you're saying of like if you cheat on me Then you were gonna do that and alright, this is over. That's what I'm saying I get that but that's also so scary to be like, all right go off and I don't think he should go off I'm I'm strong and you should do I don't think that I think he should tell her He's like I feel insecure about this. I feel worried about this. I'm I'm worried. I have questions
Starting point is 00:37:33 But blah blah blah blah and and you know what if he's saying like I also think it's okay especially when you're young I've said this of just If if he's like I'm super uncomfortable and she's like well this is who I am and I want to go on this. And it's like, maybe you're very different people. And maybe your perspectives on these types of boundaries and stuff are different. And it's OK to break up.
Starting point is 00:37:53 You're so young. Who cares? If you guys are just not the same types of people, I understand you've been together for two years. That's probably you don't want to break up. You probably care about each other. But I don't know. I've said it a lot of like when you're really young
Starting point is 00:38:07 and if you feel like who you're with is you're not seeing eye to eye. Now that's after communicating and talking about it. Right. Talk about it. Make sure you're not on the same page. But if you talk about it clearly and then you're not on the same page, it's okay to be like, maybe this isn't for us.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Yeah. That's totally fine. Some comments here. Tell her you don't feel comfortable with her going alone with a guy. Make it about your feelings, not about her cheating. OP responded, I tried this at first. She just brushed it off, kind of. I've known him most of my life.
Starting point is 00:38:38 We've had these plans for months. Just because you can't come suddenly doesn't mean I should rearrange my plans for my only week off for you when you won't be around anyways. I want to go hiking and see the cliffs and coasts, not to elope with a good friend." Yep, that's probably exactly what she's thinking. Someone said, I don't know what you should do, but you are not alone in thinking this is shifty and weird.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I too would feel extremely uncomfortable with this situation. Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with thinking. Like we said, they're going out alone. It's probably about as bad as it can get. Right, I'm trying to think of scenarios worse than this. And I hear a week and I'm like, whew. A week is also a long time. A week is a long camping trip.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah. A week in a tent? My God. Fuck. Oh, they will be. Yeah, just to make my god fuck. Oh, they will be Just to make sure just to see they still have it. I'm just kidding. Um update update Let's go So I was overwhelmed with responses. Thanks everyone for the help I decided to talk to her about my feelings and see how she dealt with them,
Starting point is 00:39:46 telling her she needed to make it a group trip and not share a tent alone with him. Here's how it went. So she comes home and she's so excited to show me the new climbing gear she bought for the trip. Great, I tell her we need to talk about the trip and Kyle and she looks a little worried. I preface the conversation asking more about her
Starting point is 00:40:01 and Kyle's relationship. From what I gathered, they're closer than I thought yet This actually reassures me. She was his rock when his dad died and he was hers when her best friend committed suicide He has a bond He has a place in her heart as a lifelong friend that no one else can fill and I have one in hers as a lifelong Partner that no one else can either I have to suck it up and live with that She seems to really like Anna and Kyle apparently really likes me from their talks They're happy the other found a great person and realized they weren't compatible
Starting point is 00:40:30 Anyways, and only tried it out out of loneliness a loneliness thing after both losing important people I can live with that So I tell her I know it's impractical, but I don't want her sharing a tent with him She says that's fine completely reasonable for me to ask and just wants to me comfortable. She says she can try and pack lighter in other aspects. Cool. So then I tell her the trip itself makes me uncomfortable. And why doesn't she invite someone else? She mentions that's okay. She can invite her friend, Allie, who just got back from Colorado. They can just bring the four person tent again for for them and the dog if Ali wants to go Oh, but Ali's a very hot very promiscuous lesbian and was my girlfriend's first sexual encounter stop stop You know what this man should be counting his lucky stars his girlfriend sounds awesome wait. I have my other best friend Chris Hemsworth
Starting point is 00:41:23 He comes in. Where are we camping? It's fun. I'll invite my other friend, Fuckfuckly. Doctor Fuckfuckly. Whoa, he's a doctor? He makes money. And he's single. This is my other friend, Cassian from Akitar. Stop, do not bring that up right now. I just finished the book. Oh, God. Don't even bring up his name. Contain yourself. I can't. Uh, hmm, nope. Anyone else? Oh, yeah, her friend Taylor maybe, but she'd be kind of a drag.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Oh, that's okay. You used to hook up with Taylor, too. At this point, I realize it boils down to the fact that I am jealous, and I don't want my girlfriend alone with anyone who is attracted to her. Not because I don't trust her, but because I have this fucked up mentality that I have to prove myself and be there to claim her or something. If I want this relationship to work, I have to force myself to get over that. This trip will help. So I tell her that and she insists she doesn't have to go if I'm really that insecure. We can take baby steps and work on it together. No, I say I want you to go. Enjoy your only week off. You earned it." So we decided we are going to drive down there next weekend to Kyle's. We're going to all
Starting point is 00:42:32 hang out and properly meet, eat some dinner, drink some beers, play cards against humanity. Then Kyle and I will go out to the bars and get to know each other and she and Anna will do whatever they want to do. If I don't like him, I tell her and we call it off. I think this will really help and make me comfortable. In the end, my girlfriend's sexual past makes me uncomfortable, but I'm sure mine from my fraternity days scares the shit out of her too. But just like I only have eyes for her now,
Starting point is 00:42:56 I know it's the same. She's still not going to sleep in the same tent as him and said she can probably rent some single tents from the University Outdoors Club. Way cool. You guys were all divided on whether to ask her to stay Said she can probably rent some single tents from the University Outdoors Club way cool You guys were all divided on whether to ask her to stay or let her go But I think we found a good compromise to make us all feel better and still let her go Okay, I mean hey look he made his decision. We don't have another update, so we don't know what happened
Starting point is 00:43:19 I will say I'm proud that he came to that on his own He literally had to verbally talk it out. Yeah. And then it's kind of what we said in the beginning. He's gonna let her go because he has to move on from this stuff. I think, okay, I will say, maybe I'm wrong for this, but I think it was a little crazy that they were planning on sharing a tent before he asked.
Starting point is 00:43:40 I kind of agree. It's like, we don't have to share a tent. It's like, you were gonna share a tent? I'm like. Get your own tent. I've never had this type of agree. It's like we don't have to share a tent. It's like you were gonna share a tent Get your own tent. I've never I've never had this type of situation. I've never so for me. This is all hypothetical I'm very curious what our commenters will think what they would do In this type of situation. Yeah, let us know let us know Move on to our next story
Starting point is 00:44:04 This comes from Relationships. Uh, I, a 29-year-old woman, am traveling overseas to meet my online boyfriend, a 38-year-old man, in a week. He just said he had to cancel. Yeah, because he's 65 and his name is Bob. Shh! And he lives in Carolina. Like, Bob, come on! We gotta go. He's like, I'm meeting my girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Sorry. I met someone online through our pen pals about five months ago. It started off getting to know each other and it turns out we had a lot in common and we were really compatible. I think it's safe to say we fell for each other. It quickly turned intense and we shared
Starting point is 00:44:42 every single intimate detail about each other. We both were in serious relationships that fell through, but some time had gone by for us. My seven-year relationship ended about 10 months ago, five months before we met, and his four-year relationship ended four months before we met. We text all day every day and FaceTime for two to three hours every night, save for maybe one or two nights a week. He lives in Ireland.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I live in the US. I found an incredibly priced flight to visit him. We were both so excited and maybe a bit rash, I booked the flight only after two months of knowing him. He told his family about me, shared photos of his family, and we planned all that I'm going to do and see with him. At 5.30 this morning, I received a video message and a long text that his ex-girlfriend
Starting point is 00:45:23 was in a serious car accident and that he would have to cancel. I've begged him not to and I am trying to be supportive of what he is going through. So far, at most, I've only gotten that he will try, that he needs to sort this out. I'm freaking out that in seven days I will be in a country where I don't know anyone. Do I cancel the flight? I've been telling my friends about going on a trip, not really saying that I'm meeting someone. I have no idea what to do now.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I feel sick, I feel like a fool. I feel like everything he said to me was a lie. What should I do? Ooh. Okay. I mean, I think this is the perfect opportunity to do a solo trip. I mean, Ireland, planting a green grass. Yeah, shoot. You know?
Starting point is 00:46:01 Check out the Guinness factory. Ah, it's a lovely day for a Guinness. Yeah, I mean like. I've still never been to Ireland, I think. You must go. Make a solo trip out of it, fuck that guy. Go on a trip. Yeah, also like, if he is telling the truth
Starting point is 00:46:14 about his ex-girlfriend getting in a car accident, that's really scary and sad. Yeah, it could be real. I mean. Okay. I'm a little suspicious. You're suspicious. I don't know, you know, they did say they were FaceTiming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:28 He's a real person. He's a real person. Yeah, we know that. But he just always has a filter on. The problem is when you're, I mean, and I've never been in a long distance relationship, so I'm not experienced in this. So a lot of them work out and are real.
Starting point is 00:46:41 But it's just there's also the element of like, you don't know him in person, is what he's telling you the truth. Right. That there's the possibility here. I think she should go on this trip. Absolutely. But not plan to, not care if she sees him.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of stuff to do in Ireland. Enjoy the time. But how soon is, how, that in seven days, so she has seven days until. Or, or, or she could cancel it and save for when things? Calm down a little bit and not spend all I think if she can get her money back if she can get her money back Yeah, she get her money back. I would cancel because going to go on a solo trip But like cancel this and then plan a trip. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 00:47:21 Okay comments I'll be honest his ex-girlfriend being in a car crash a week before you come over shouldn't affect his ability to make time for you, even if he was to go out and see her. From what I've seen of people in online relationships, there is often one party that bails approaching a meetup date, as things are suddenly to become real.
Starting point is 00:47:39 This is a big possibility, but I'm not saying it's definitely the case. I definitely wouldn't cancel unless you can get a refund. You could use this time to explore the country by yourself and turn it into a good, empowering experience. That's what you said. Eat, pray, love, bitch. Yeah, eat, pray, love in Ireland.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Someone else said everything he said likely was a lie since this is a classic catfish line. Just because someone can FaceTime you doesn't mean every other thing about them isn't bullshit. I'm sorry this happened. I'd still take the trip and have an excellent time. Find things that interest you and go slash go do and see them. It's an awesome opportunity to see the world and I wouldn't pass it up just because the opportunity came from a shitty situation originally."
Starting point is 00:48:19 If he's lying about all of it and it's like she's FaceTiming him, he's just like, oh yes, I'm here in Dublin. And she's like, my Irish boyfriend is so cool. It's like, yes, I'm drinking again. It's like, that's all he does. I'm eating Lucky Charms. It's like, no, that guy's from Kentucky. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:38 He's like, look, I'm really sorry. He has a filter of a fucking leprechaun hat on, stop. Yeah, do they even have lucky charms in Ireland? I probably thought probably if those likes they have like specialty He's going off the only things he knows like I'm doing he like is watching train spotting. He's like heroin Now that's got all that Scotland. I haven't seen you Yeah, he gets it wrong. She's like wait that's Scotland. He's just like Come upstairs, she's like, okay, honey. He's just saying, oh fuck, fuck, fuck! And then it's like, Bap, come upstairs!
Starting point is 00:49:05 He's like, okay, honey. He's just saying quotes from Banshees of Inna Sharon. Yeah. It's just like, wait. She watches the movie, she's like, that's all that he's saying. Hold on. Okay. Update.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Yay! The guy was Barry Keegan. Oh my God. I mean, that'd be pretty. He's single now. What? Well, him and Sabrina broke up. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:49:28 She's touring and she can't with him right now. Wow, never could have thought that would happen. So what happened with that boyfriend? She's like, he's sort of not a real person. Jesus. Sorry, I had to. All right, after my post, I FaceTimed him to say what I wanted to say and end things.
Starting point is 00:49:46 He tried to get me to postpone my trip and even tried to give me money to make me less mad at him. I told him whatever we had was over as I could no longer trust him. He cried, which made me feel weird. I wished him and his ex the best and ended the call. I went on my trip and had a top class time. The Reddit community really astounds me sometimes. I received a lot of private messages of suggestions
Starting point is 00:50:07 of things to do and see, and the trip to Ireland became a trip of a lifetime. In Dublin, I did meet up with a very kind Redditor who showed me around the city and came with me to a bunch of museums during my stay. I saw amazing sights, met a bunch of really cool people through my travels, and met a few really cute Irish boys.
Starting point is 00:50:22 There we go. I was gonna say, she could meet her own boyfriend there. Exactly. I learned a lot about myself on my first solo trip abroad. I am pretty self-reliant and I did a lot of self-reflection. This relationship was my first serious one after my ex and I split up. I think in my desire for closeness with someone I ignored a lot of red flags and downplayed my self-worth.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I am now focusing on making real connections with people I meet in real life and have decided to stay away from anything long-distance indefinitely. My first night in Belfast I messaged him after I had what was probably too many beers, damn you delicious Irish beers, and he said he was sorry but it was what it had to be. It didn't really seem sincere and it extinguished any romantic notions I had. Thank you to everyone who commented and private messaged me. It really made me excited for my trip and it was the best time. Oh that is the best story ever. That ended up being the best story so far. Yeah. I didn't realize she was gonna
Starting point is 00:51:13 immediately just cut it off. Yeah that was extreme but hey. There might have been other details it might have all added up in her head and she's like I need to end this. Well good for her. I'm jealous of her. I really wanna go, because I've heard Guinness in Ireland is great. It is amazing. It tastes so good. And the Guinness factory has this bar at the top that you can see the whole fucking city of Dublin.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Cool. It is really cool. I really wanna go. Do you wanna come with me next time I go? Yeah, I mean, I won't tell you. Yeah, I'm gonna be there. Yeah, I'm not tell you. Yeah, I'm going to be there. OK. Yeah, I'm not going to tell you, though. I'm just going to be like, hey, this Guinness
Starting point is 00:51:48 plays pretty cool, right? I'm like, there he is. Also, to all of our Irish viewers, I'm sorry for my accent. I'm not sorry. Yeah. He's not sorry. I will not apologize.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I'm sorry. OK. That wasn't class of you. That's what they say. I got to watch Dairy Girls. Oh. Oh. Yeah Dairy Girls. Oh yeah. I need to watch that. I need to watch that. Then I'm gonna come back with a sick accent. Just such a good accent. Yeah. Okay it is time for our last story and it comes from Am I the Asshole. Am I the asshole for leaving a couple's trip in the middle of the night and ruining the vibe? Oh no, the vibe's been
Starting point is 00:52:23 ruined? Leaving a couple's trip in the middle of the night. I mean ruining, ruining a vibe. Oh no, the vibe's been ruined? Leaving a couple's trip in the middle of the night. I mean ruining a vibe. Sucks. Immediate asshole. Worse than death. You ruined the vibe? Oh, no dude. No.
Starting point is 00:52:34 The vibe must stay. Oh no. Gotta keep the vibe intact. Yeah. All right, this is a 26 year old guy. Last weekend was my birthday. Me and my girlfriend of two years, Kenzie, who's 26, and I had plans to get dinner.
Starting point is 00:52:47 She came to pick me up from work and her car was packed and my best friend slash his wife were in the backseat. To my surprise, she planned a whole weekend away to my favorite lake, rented a sick house on the water and invited all our friends. Her sister slash husband, my friend slash their SOs and a few of Kenzie's friends all arrived Thursday night. It was awesome and I was stoked for the weekend. We met through my best childhood friend Grace, who's 26. Grace and Kenzie were college friends and
Starting point is 00:53:13 I never thought I had a chance. Kenzie is beautiful and while I'm not ugly, I've always felt like we weren't in the same league. No idea how I got her and I still don't. Thursday night went well. Friday we swam and hung out at the house most of the day. We started drinking and playing games at night. Kenzie's sister broke out this couples game. Basically, you pick one person in the relationship that fits the description or it has prompts to engage in debates between couples. Kenzie was pretty drunk by now because she's a lightweight and was drinking most of the night. It was fun until a question of what originally attracted you to your S.O. came up.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Kenzie blurted out, he was safe and I knew he wouldn't cheat or leave me. Ooh. Ouchy, ouchy. You know, I think the vibe got ruined right there. Right there. That's, the vibe has been broken. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:54:01 The vibe has been shattered. I looked at her with a face and was like, huh? She then says, yeah, you seemed nice enough and after my abusive ex I wanted a safer option. Things got really awkward and her sister quickly read a different card. I was really embarrassed and flustered so I said I had to pee and walked outside. I called Grace to tell her what happened. She was working and couldn't come. And she got upset.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I told her I wanted to leave. She said I didn't need to take that and she would be there in the morning to get me. The night died down and Kenzie tried talking to me in front of everyone, but I told her we'd talk about it another time. I decided to pack my bags and sleep on the couch. And before anyone woke up, I left.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I texted Kenzie and told her that I didn't want to fight about what happened and ruin everyone's trip. So I was going home for the weekend and we could talk whenever she got home. She blew my phone up all Saturday, as did a few of my friends. I decided to go golfing and just turn my phone off. I just didn't want to talk to anyone.
Starting point is 00:54:58 When Kenzie showed up at my place Sunday, she was fuming, saying that me leaving early ruined the whole trip. It was all anyone could talk about. And the whole vibe felt off because the birthday boy was gone, that she felt like a piece of shit and I didn't give her a chance to explain. And she hardly even remembers what she said to begin with. She rented a boat, I love boating, and felt like I disrespected her efforts slash money to put together the trip.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I told her that I didn't feel like arguing, so I went home to avoid the drama. Some said that it was an asshole move to just bail, and I should have stayed because she put a ton of effort into the trip. Am I the asshole? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's kind of on some baby shit.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Yeah. It really sucks. All of that sucked. Like, there's no doubt, like, his feelings were obviously hurt. Yeah, rightfully so. Yeah, and that, I mean, that sucks to hear. But you there's no doubt, like, his feelings were obviously hurt. Yeah, rightfully so. Yeah, I mean, that sucks to hear. But you're gonna leave the whole weekend, all your friends took off time to be there for you.
Starting point is 00:55:51 You're punishing a lot of people. Also- For what your girlfriend's saying. Grace? I think- Hey, girl. Don't get involved like that. I think, like, I mean, at the end of the day, I think he felt so embarrassed in front of all his friends that he couldn't stand to be around him
Starting point is 00:56:10 because he's probably thinking in his head, they're all judging me for this and I just need to leave. And so I don't think he realized that when you just dip out on something like that, your absence will be all people are gonna talk about. And that's gonna make everything way worse. So much worse. It's the most dramatic move you can make.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Yeah. And to say like, oh, I just wanted to leave to not cause drama, I'm like, you wanted to cause some drama. You caused so much drama. Maybe he wasn't thinking, maybe he was in his feelings. He did it, yeah, he was probably in his feelings. He did what he felt he needed to do to feel better. He went golfing, I'm sure that was nice for him.
Starting point is 00:56:55 But when you're thinking long game with your friends, like doing that is kind of a dramatic thing. It's a pop out. I don't blame him for wanting to leave, but I think it would have been a much better idea for him to work it out there. And also, if he didn't leave, everyone would have forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:57:15 They would have been like, ooh, awkward, they'll figure it out, but I don't like him less. But now it's like, why is he gone? Oh yeah, because he was the safe option, and that's what caused this whole thing. It doesn't help your cause. Here's what I would have done. Your partner says, oh yeah, you were the safe option,
Starting point is 00:57:33 whatever, it's like, I'd be like, okay, yeah, for sure. Everyone goes to bed that night. She wakes up, what's that sound? They go out to the lake, I'm on a jet ski. Going around, I hit a huge ramp. I land on the ground, skid onto the beach, slide it. I'm wearing a leather jacket, nothing else. And you're backwards on it.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Your hands are on the bag. I'm backwards on a jet ski, I land. They're like, holy shit, dude, you could've died. That's so dangerous. I'm like, you're right, it is dangerous. That was my plan all along. Guess I'm not the safe choice. Guess I'm not that safe, am I, babe? And she's like, oh so dangerous like you're right it is dangerous that was my plan all along yes I'm not the safe yes not that safe am I babe and she's like oh my god you're right she hops into my arms we get back on the jet ski yeah the sunset just a leather jacket just leather jacket
Starting point is 00:58:15 when you need the pooling very safe no no no woods all those, they're going like, wow, this dick's out. You know, I was thinking the whole time. Not very safe. Not very safe. The whole time I was thinking, this is the perfect setup for a slasher movie. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Like a lake house. No, he leaves and on the road heading home, they get murdered, and then something's on its way to the cabin. Here's what I thought he could have done or should have done. Oh, go. Other than get murdered on the way back the cabin. Here's what I thought he could have done or should have done. Go. Other than get murdered on the way back.
Starting point is 00:58:46 But he should have just woken up and left for the day, like the morning, done his own thing in the morning, written a note and being like, hey, I just need to do some time and then come back after he cooled down. Not leave fully. Yeah. I would be really upset with him as well.
Starting point is 00:59:03 He also turned off his phone. He could have been unsafe. It's true. It's true. It's just, it was all, you know, I felt like, what I think it comes across as, It comes across childish. It was really inappropriate what his girlfriend said to him. Absolutely. But what you do is you pull her aside the next day and you go. Hey that was so disrespectful So mean yeah, I felt awful and also do you still feel that way about me? Because if you do right like that changes my perspective on our relationship like have that serious convo and then if you're there you could also talk to your friends that night and be like
Starting point is 00:59:40 She can't believe she said that to me like you can you could talk to some of your friends, too, and get their perspectives, and then they'd all probably be on your side and be like, yeah, and I don't know. This could've been handled. I agree. And then we send her packing. Yeah, get outta here! Here's the tricky thing, guys,
Starting point is 00:59:57 is that she was in a really abusive relationship from what he said, and her first initial thought was, okay, first initial thought was, okay, this guy's safe, which I know is such a buzzkill. There's a nicer way to say it. There's such a nicer way to say it, but she was wasted. Yeah, it's, no, totally. No, she fucked up, she definitely fucked up.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Definitely fucked up. For sure. It's definitely, I will say, like, cause I don't know if he later gets clarification from her, but like, drunk words are sober thoughts. Absolutely. They really are. But I also think we don't speak well when we're drunk.
Starting point is 01:00:33 No. So it could also be like, yes, sorry, I viewed you as safe. I viewed you as someone who actually gave a shit about me. Think about it. There's maybe some better aspects to her point of view that we're not getting because she was so drunk. Right. Think about this, is this the same thing?
Starting point is 01:00:52 He was a safe choice and he makes me feel safe. Yes. It's the same thing. And it has me wondering. So true. One is incredibly disrespectful. So true. And one is a really sweet thing to say.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Even in her wording, it's like like I knew he wouldn't cheat on me It's like okay that that is actually a good reason Said it is such a bummer. Oh absolutely no it hurt reading that part like hurts But then he just continues to dig a hole for himself And it's and feeling awful is OK, but there's just other actions you can take. I think he was embarrassed to show his face to his friends. And it is embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:01:33 It's really embarrassing. Comments, well, the verdict was asshole. Comments, feels like you massively overreacted. That may be the truth for the beginning, but no one stays for that reason for two years and certainly wouldn't splash all that cash and spend all that time and effort Organizing such a lovely weekend for you unless the emotions were true and deep You are not the rebound after an abusive relationship the rebound would have lasted a couple of weeks That's not to say it was hurtful. But if you care about her work to make it right. I think that's very true
Starting point is 01:02:03 Yeah, we're we also the question was your first impression exactly first impressions can be fucking wild in there. They're crazy Yeah, I'm so spent so much. She did this whole weekend for him He loves to boat and he couldn't even get on the boat. I know so sad Someone said you're the asshole you'd seriously bail on a birthday weekend in front of all your mutual friends because two years earlier she felt you were a safe option. It seemed to work out. She went all out for you for your birthday. If you bailed over something so seemingly ridiculous,
Starting point is 01:02:35 what would you do when you face actual tough times together? You won't discuss it. You'll just run away. Yep. Absolutely. No, this is a huge red flag. Love that. It's like, what she said said is it's like I said
Starting point is 01:02:47 I'm like, oh that would hurt me But it is minuscule compared to what a lot of couples go through at some point and it's like he kind of showed himself There and it is a scary thing Bailing it's a hard thing to get over, you know Especially if she went through a bad relationship before, she's seeing this and probably gonna be like, oh well. And yeah, and he left her, what I do think about that one comment is true,
Starting point is 01:03:13 is that while you left her there alone with all the friends and they have nothing to talk about, but you who is gone and ghosted and not responding. So you probably damaged your relationship with everyone. Yeah. Shit's about to get talked. I mean, look, I think in relationships, the response is to communicate always.
Starting point is 01:03:31 And he chose to do the polar opposite of it. And I just, it's not always that I think you're wrong or you're bad, I just think it's going to make things worse. It's legitimately like self-sabotage. Totally. Because he's clearly extremely insecure about this whole thing and his choice is to run away.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I wonder if in his head he thought he was going to do this and everyone was going to feel so bad and be like, oh my god, this poor guy. Wow. He's such a hero. In fact, he's not safe. He's so dangerous for leaving. You can't do that.
Starting point is 01:04:05 You just can't. What a risk taker. Because when your brain tells you to do things like that, the result is never going to be what your brain thinks it's going to be. You just need to communicate. Well. You want a jet ski and just a leather coat.
Starting point is 01:04:17 It's something that is burned in my brain. Just a leather jacket. But you've got to admit, had he done that, the situation would be better than where it's at now. And they're like, I'm a thief! Tell me the situation would not be better. If he hits a wave and he's sitting on that craft. That's not. It's dangerous.
Starting point is 01:04:35 That craft. That's dangerous. Right, it's not safe. Watercraft? They wake up the next morning, it's like his balls have exploded. Yeah, dude, that's not good. He's safe and he doesn't have balls. Also, do you drape like one ball?
Starting point is 01:04:47 Like, do you drape one ball to one side, one ball to the other side of the thing that you're on? Oh my God, he's ball-less and safe. I'm happy. Do you suck them up before you get on it? I have a lot of questions about naked jet skiing. Look, I've never jet skied before. What?
Starting point is 01:05:06 Dude, you're such a safe choice. Everyone in this room just lost their mind. I didn't, I just stared at you. I've actually, no, I've never jet skied before. I'm not. It's a blast and also terrifying. Sure. Never jet skied.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Do you want to? Yeah, sure, I'll just. Get out there, buddy. I've just never had the opportunity. Jet ski's like one of those things where it's like, you're on, you're like, oh my God, I'm having so much fun. And then after like 15 minutes, you're like, it's the same thing Oh, my whole body hurt
Starting point is 01:05:34 We never I've hardly spent time at lakes, okay fair I've you can just ski in the ocean I know but like when we went out of the ocean, we were like scuba diving or like I know but like when we went out of the ocean we were like scuba diving or like Rinkling and stuff. We never we weren't like a jet ski family. Yeah, we gotta take you to a lake for your birthday Yeah, you want to go on your birthday, buddy? You won't go to your birthday. Let's go to this. Let's go where they went I I just skiing up a big bear. We got big bear on the mountain. You'll go big bear Jet's yeah, there's a lake. There's a lake. There's a lake at Big Bear Lake. Oh, Big Bear Lake. Yeah. Whoa, someone hasn't traveled, am I right?
Starting point is 01:06:08 No, I don't know. Big Bear Lake. Ooh. Ooh. Okay. Okay. Thank you for watching. Let us know what other themes and subreddits
Starting point is 01:06:16 you'd like to see on this show. Let me know your opinions on some of these stories because these were some wild ones and we'll see you next Saturday. Goodbye. Bye. Bye.

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