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Episode Date: March 1, 2025WHY do cheaters cheat?! 0:00 Intro 2:03 My wife is helping her friend cheat https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1f1rjw9/aitah_for_being_very_upset_that_my_wife_is/ 13:02 My husband said I wasn't ...attractive enough to cheat on him https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/1g4q7r6/my_34f_husband_30m_said_i_wasnt_attractive_enough/ 23:32 My husband thinks I'm cheating because we're out of condoms https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/1gofybt/my_28f_husband_31m_thinks_im_cheating_because_we/ 30:24 I started to cheat on my wife but stopped halfway through https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/vkl9us/i_40m_started_to_cheat_on_my_wife_38f_but_stopped/ 47:08 Did he cheat or did I catch an STD from a koala https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoHotTakes/comments/1592qnl/did_he_cheat_or_did_i_catch_an_std_from_a_koala/ PODCAST: https://smo.sh/PitRedditSpotify https://smo.sh/PitRedditiHeart https://smo.sh/PitRedditApple SUBSCRIBE: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshPit WEAR OUR JOKES: https://smosh.com WHO YOU HEAR Shayne Topp // https://www.instagram.com/shaynetopp/ Tommy Bowe // https://www.instagram.com/tomeybones/ Arasha Lalani // https://www.instagram.com/arashalalani_/ WHO YOU DON’T HEAR (usually) Director: Bailey Petracek Editor: Vida Robbins Director of Programming, Smosh Pit: Emily Rose Jacobson Associate Producer, Smosh Pit: Bailey Petracek Production Designer: Cassie Vance Art Director: Erin Kuschner Assistant Art Director: Josie Bellerby Art Coordinator: Alex Aguilar Prop Master: Courtney Chapman Prop Assistant: Abby Schmidt Audio Mixer: Scott Neff Director of Photography: Brennan Iketani Videographer: James Hull Assistant Director: Alexcina Figueroa Executive Vice President of Production: Amanda Barnes Senior Production Manager: Alexcina Figueroa Production Manager: Jonathan Hyon Production Coordinator: Zianne Hoover Operations & Production Coordinator: Oliver Wehlander Production Assistant: Caroline Smith Post Production Manager: Luke Baker DIT/Lead AE: Matt Duran IT: Tim Baker Director of Design: Brittany Hobbs Graphic Designers: Ness Cardano, Monica Ravitch Senior Manager, Channel & Strategy: Lizzy Jones Channel Operations Coordinator: Audrey Carganilla Director of Social Media: Erica Noboa Social Creative Producer: Peter Ditzler, Tommy Bowe Merchandising Manager: Mallory Myers Social Media Coordinator: Kim Wilborn Brand Partnership Manager: Chloe Mays Talent Coordinator: Selina Garcia People Operations Specialist: Katie Fink Front Office Assistant: Sara Faltersack CEO: Alessandra Catanese EVP of Programming: Kiana Parker Coordinator Producer of Programming: Marcus Munguia Executive Coordinator: Rachel Collis OTHER SMOSHES: Smosh: https://smo.sh/Sub2Smosh Smosh Games: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshGames El Smosh (Spanish Dub): https://smo.sh/Sub2ElSmosh SmoshCast: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshCast FOLLOW US: TikTok: https://smo.sh/TikTok Instagram: https://instagram.com/smosh Facebook: https://facebook.com/smosh
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Hello and welcome to Smosh Reads Reddit Stories.
I'm Shane and today it's a genre that we love to hate,
cheating, and I am joined by two people
who also hate cheating.
It's disgusting, but I'm here with my wife.
Yes, this is my lover.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
I'm for some reason going downward.
We have done episodes before on cheating and it is,
it's, man, I have to admit, whenever I come across
a Reddit story that has to do with cheating,
I'm glued to it.
Even though I feel bad for the people.
It is always high stakes.
And it sucks how common it is.
I feel like almost everybody
goes through some version of it at some point.
Everybody's gotta get cheat all the time.
Yeah, and if not in a relationship,
like in high school on a test.
That's great.
Okay. You guys Yeah, okay. Do you guys not?
Like, no.
Oh no, one of my tests I wrote,
my friends and I made up like a fake language
and I took the test late
and I wrote all the answers that they got on my arm
and so I went in and they're like, what's that?
And I'm like, I don't know.
That's awesome.
And then I cheated and I got 100.
There reaches a certain point
when it comes to cheating on a test
where it's actually more impressive.
Absolutely.
The manner in which you cheated
than actually knowing the information
that you're being tested on.
Right, which is critical thinking.
You made a new language.
That's right.
That's more impressive than anything you could have learned.
Thank you.
So there you go.
That's a bigger life lesson than,
I don't know what the fuck I was learning.
And you see, we didn't retain it.
Right, listen, if they didn't want it,
they wouldn't put those desks right next to each other.
That's so correct. Right.
Well, we'll be talking mostly about romantic cheating.
What?
Huh? People do that?
Yes. Wow.
Apparently a lot.
Disgusting.
Right, so they like, right on their arms?
Are we ready for our first story?
Absolutely.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm ready.
Here we go.
Am I the asshole for being very upset
that my wife is helping her friend cheat on her husband?
Wife, friend is helping, husband.
I'm there.
OP is saying that their wife is helping her friend
cheat on her husband.
You lost me again.
So the person, the guy writing this in,
he's like, my wife is helping her friend
cheat on her husband.
I'm there, okay.
You know I'm a visual girl.
We've been over this, have to draw it.
A while ago, my wife and her friend went on a weekend trip, which seemed fine.
Turns out the friend didn't really want to go on the trip.
She was meeting a guy, her best friend, her soulmate.
Apparently these two have been
messaging each other for years.
My wife didn't know this, but obviously found out about it
and told me, but she just ignored it
because it wasn't our business.
We didn't tell the husband.
It was a weird WTF kind of thing.
I do not know the husband at all.
I barely know this friend.
I was thinking, not my circus, not my monkeys.
So here's the thing.
The friend asked my wife to go on another trip
and that she will pay probably about $3,000
for the sole purpose of cheating on her husband again.
My wife was gleefully ecstatic about going on a free trip.
She will be the alibi for her friend cheating.
Oof.
Oh, puppy poopy.
Am I the asshole for being outraged, feeling betrayed,
feeling that our marriage is a fucking joke,
and frankly wanting to end it?
If her and the girls make such a farce of marriage
and help each other out and cover for each other cheating,
what the fuck is our marriage?
I am seriously considering telling my wife
that she can make her own decisions,
but they have consequences.
And when she returns for the fuck fest cheating weekend,
the locks will be changed
and the divorce papers will be pinned to the front door.
Yikes.
Okay, daddy.
Okay.
I understand where he's coming from.
Yes. Yeah.
It's like, would she do this to me then
if she's so on board with this happening over here?
Of course.
Like those are, that's like a virtue
that she's clearly not exhibiting,
or she's not against her friend not exhibiting.
Right, right.
Cause it's one reaction to go, oh, she's cheating on him, that's her business.
It's another to be like, I will go with you on this trip
so I can be your alibi so you can lie to your husband.
That is a whole new beast.
Yeah, that's where it crosses into bad, bad, no, no.
No, no, no, not even though it's enticing 3K.
Not, not for the money.
She's getting paid 3K to do this?
That she will pay probably about $3,000
for the sole purpose of cheating on her husband again.
Oh, so the vacation costs $2,000.
The vacation's free.
And the wife isn't getting paid.
The wife is not getting paid.
So it's not for 3K.
Then definitely not.
But you're just getting,
you're getting a $3,000 vacation for free.
Right, right, right.
To go with this friend.
Yeah, it's certainly one thing I think you're right,
of like, in a lot of these cases,
I think it is like, not our business,
let me stay out of it,
because I'm not in that relationship.
And oftentimes too,
because I am curious about y'all's opinions with this,
like when you're friends with a couple
and you find out that
one is cheating like is it your responsibility to come in and
tell somebody and in my opinion with that is always so nuanced
because
nobody knows that dynamic of the relationship and if you come
in with this information and then let's say they still
decide to stay together and get married like then, then great, you're at this wedding
and you're like, okay, well now this is very complicated
or maybe I'm not a friend of them anymore.
So it's almost like what is the part that you should play
when you know someone else is cheating?
It's totally case by case, I feel like, right?
I don't know.
I've never been in this position so I guess I don't know
what my thing would be.
Yeah.
I think it's hard for me to picture
because I have a hard time imagining any of my friends
cheating on their partners.
Yeah.
I think it would be a situation too
where if a close friend of mine,
which it would be shocking to me,
if they were like, I'm cheating on my partner,
I think it would be a situation of like,
as their friend, I would feel it's important for me
to be like, you need to tell them.
That's my advice to you as your friend.
Right.
And I don't think she's doing that, obviously,
in this case.
No, she's doing the opposite.
It's like, hey, as your friend,
that's part of my job as your friend,
to be like, you need to do this.
To hold you accountable, yeah.
And it is a situation of if they're like,
no, I don't care, whatever,
I'd be like, this changes how I view you.
You, and your morals.
Like, you're not who I thought you were.
Absolutely.
Now, this obviously, we're not talking about that.
We're talking about far, far past that.
We're talking about a $3,000 vacation.
And we're also, the dynamic between the wife and her friend
is one thing, it's how the husband feels about it,
and he's nervous now.
What does this mean?
I think, what I do think is this is jumping
pretty far past what he needs to do first,
which is talk to her and go, hey,
I have a massive problem with you doing this.
You do this, who are you?
But that would be like, let me talk to her
while the car's going 10 miles an hour.
This woman's like 60 on the freeway,
and he's like, oh, wait.
Yeah. So I and he's like, oh, wait. Yeah.
So like, I kinda understand the like,
well, she's doing the most already.
It's like maybe too late to talk to her about it,
but I don't know when the timing of it.
It's kind of surprising that like,
this feels like something you would know
about your partner as well, right?
Like to discuss values up front,
and I guess if they hadn't yet talked about, you know,
loyalty in friendships and in relationships,
this probably is something that's shocking to him.
And he's like, oh, I didn't realize
that you don't care about that.
I mean, and if they're married,
it's hopefully clear that they haven't had
any infidelity between them,
but this is clearly causing him to question,
like maybe now that this friend has introduced
how easy and fun it might be to cheat,
she might be like, oh, well then maybe I could do
something fun like that.
I could see the wife and friend justifying it
by being like, the husband is,
this friend's husband is shitty or has been ignoring her.
Like, that's a situation where I understand
where we don't know what's going on
with certain dynamics.
I still think this is not how you go about it.
There's a better solution.
There's a better solution.
There's always the better solution,
even if that is divorce.
And this is just full on dishonesty here.
And I mean, I think certainly if I was
in this husband's position, I would be feeling the same way.
I'd be terrified.
Yeah, 100%.
The verdict was not the asshole.
Comments, not the asshole.
Ask your wife if you were cheating,
would she want people to tell her?
Fair, and the answer's always yes.
Right.
Another comment, my friend, you know your wife
is happy to facilitate cheating,
and that says a lot about her, and none of it is good.
If you continue to trust your wife would never cheat on you,
then you are thicker than a mattress baguette.
Mattress baguette?
Now where's that link?
Yeah, show us.
Show us the mattress baguette.
So is it a mattress or is it a baguette?
I think it's a baguette that's massive.
Lastly, not the asshole divorce her.
If she would assist someone else cheating,
you can bet she would have no problem
asking her friend to do the same for her.
I think my question is, what if he talks to her?
He goes, I have a massive problem with this.
Don't do this, this makes me uncomfortable.
She goes, you're right.
I'm not gonna do it,
I'm gonna stop.
Is that enough?
Because at this point, you're already like,
oh man, you were so willing and had no problem doing this.
Now that you know that I have a problem with it
and you dial it back, can I, is my trust still there?
I feel like it's a couples counseling moment
where it's like now you do have to work through some of it,
but like her being like, oh my God, wait, you're right.
Yeah.
I shouldn't.
Then I'd be like, okay, well,
I'm glad you came to your senses.
Let's figure this out.
Yeah.
Let's get back to the mattress baguette.
Yeah, no, we're definitely, we're not losing that.
We're gonna put a pin right there.
I wish the rest of the comments were just like,
mattress baguette.
Right, like none of this is important, what's that?
Right, so our producers have Googled mattress baguette
and we've gotten zero hits.
I am obsessed with that, just coming up with
like random similes and metaphors and just naming it.
Our next episode is called Mattress Baguette Stories.
And we're coming back.
Is it a mattress?
Is it a baguette?
Is it big, is it small, is it made of mattress
and a regular baguette?
We have questions that need answers.
We can create this.
We've got this.
We can make this.
This is gonna be a hit.
To answer the question, my initial instinct
was to say yes, it's enough, because I believe
that sometimes we can be just, I mean, we're humans.
We're gonna have faults and gaps in our awareness
and it can be, I think, a moment of just getting caught up
with this friend, like you said,
that already opened up so much more context of like,
your best friend is like, my husband sucks
and he's doing all of these things, X, Y, Z,
I don't even know how far that goes on that spectrum,
but she's like, but I have this really great experience
with this guy and I really need your help and whatever.
And yes, maybe she could have come to her senses
a little quicker and said something like,
wait, this feels a little crazy,
or if there is a problem going on,
maybe let's talk about separating that relationship
and then we can talk about introducing another man.
But perhaps she was getting caught up in that situation
and just being like, okay, I got your back,
and maybe it's, again, fun in some way,
and then it just took her husband to be like,
hey, remember that somebody is getting hurt,
and then she is like, oh my God, you're so right.
There's clearly a way to do this that doesn't hurt people.
Yeah, I mean, for for me with every Reddit story,
unless it's something really extreme and dangerous,
I'm always like talk to them.
It's always communication.
Have the conversation first.
Always communication.
You gave us less than a page of information,
and there's always gonna be a ton of comments
saying divorce her.
It's like, well, you're married, like talk.
Like unless everything leading up to this
was completely empty and worthless,
have the conversation if you actually trust each other
and decide if you still trust her.
Yeah.
Is there springs in the baguette?
That's the real question.
Are there cards?
Is it more of a mattress or more of a baguette?
That's what I'm stuck on.
Is it edible?
The problem is baguette was the last word
which infers that the mattress is the adjective.
That's what I'm saying.
So it must be a baguette.
Baguette.
That is mattress.
That is mattress.
So soft.
Yeah.
Well.
Or firm.
Or firm.
Memory baguette.
Yes.
There's a whole show here.
No, there's not.
Let me cook. No, there's not.
Let me cook.
No, there isn't.
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This is a 34 year old woman.
My husband, who's 30, said I wasn't attractive enough
to cheat on him.
Question mark.
My husband said I wasn't attractive enough to cheat on him?
My husband is gorgeous.
Everybody says so.
I consider myself pretty, but unremarkable.
My features aren't exactly supermodel material, but I do the best I can with what God gave
me.
I have nice skin thanks to skin care, a decent body thanks to the gym, and so on.
But compared to my husband, I might as well be a troll.
Even my own mom thought my husband must be gay and in the closet or hiding sketchy things
because of how much more attractive he is than me.
It's the first thing people notice when we're out.
I've had women flirt with him right in front of me
and have had two girls I know try to get with him
behind my back.
I even question why he's with me sometimes.
I'm insecure about it,
but my husband has always said that he loved me
and thought I was beautiful
and did not listen to other people.
Yesterday changed everything.
I bumped into an old boyfriend from college.
We parted on good terms and it turns out
he's doing very well for himself in his career.
I'm looking to change jobs
and I'm pretty decent at what I do.
We exchanged LinkedIn's.
There was nothing inappropriate about our conversation
and I would have no problem
if my husband was there to hear it.
My husband started an argument the minute I came home.
He said he read through my LinkedIn message
and swore my ex was flirting with me.
I said he wasn't.
My husband then made fun of my ex's looks
and it was some of the cruelest things
I've ever heard him say.
I told him to stop and that we could talk
when he wasn't acting this way.
He asked if I would cheat on him
if that guy became my coworker.
Then he scoffed and said,
you're not attractive enough to cheat on me,
not enough to keep me.'
"'I was speechless.'
"'He then slammed the door to our bedroom
"'and locked me out for the night.
"'I went to sleep on the sofa and woke up tucked into bed.
"'I can vaguely remember him waking me up.
"'Today he was incredibly sweet
"'and kissed me before going off to work.
"'I can still remember the play by play of what happened,
"'but it's like my memory was outside of my body.
I have literally never heard him say something like that,
ever.
I feel so upset and uncomfortable.
What should I say to him?
How do I just ask him what he was thinking
and what possessed him to say the things he did
and if he really meant them?
Holy fuck.
Okay. First of all, I feel so horrible for this woman
who has on paper such low self-esteem,
either from this incident or from whatever.
A troll?
Like, girl, you got clear skin, bangin' bod,
and somehow you bagged this guy.
Obviously you're attractive.
Hear me out.
The way that this guy reacted to this,
I think he is probably cheating on her
because he's like, that huge reaction of like,
oh well like, I don't know, and like, are you projecting?
Like, what's this extreme jealousy all of a sudden?
I mean, it's certainly, from my end,
it feels like it comes from just pure insecurity.
Oh, absolutely.
Of him like immediately being like, oh, well,
yeah, you're right, you're not even attractive enough.
And then he like went into his room, locked the door, sorry.
Like a little man child.
And then in the morning he's like, bye babe.
Sorry.
I don't like it.
Yeah.
My immediate take was as insecure as she might come across
in these first paragraphs that she writes,
it's very clear to me by his reaction
that he's far more insecure.
Absolutely.
And she is, and it's an interesting thing
that I've noticed, you know, being in LA
where there's just the hottest people
you've ever seen in your entire life, right?
And an interesting thing is that a lot
of the most attractive people you know
are the most insecure about their looks.
And I had it explained once, and it was that,
oh, because their entire life,
they're made to feel like their looks are kind of everything.
Oh, you're so beautiful, you're so attractive,
that if at any moment they feel they don't have that,
then they have nothing.
Their entire worth is gone.
Their entire worth is in their appearance,
whereas anyone who doesn't feel that's the case growing up,
they then have worth in every other way.
But it seems clear to me that this guy
has gotten used to so much attention
that he's actually deeply insecure
as a weird reverse reaction to it.
You'd think you hear compliments your whole life,
you're gonna think you're the best, which is true,
but it also creates this opposite aspect too.
Yeah, that is so fascinating because that theory
that you brought up, it seems to be the case here, right?
Because he kind of brought up the attraction thing
kind of out of nowhere, right?
Because it was like these messages
and he was saying that he was flirting and whatever,
and then out of nowhere it was like,
well yeah, you're not even attractive enough
to cheat on me.
So it seems like that is the only thing
on his mind is appearance.
Yeah, it's true.
And it's very much a control tactic to be like,
to put her down so she doesn't think she's good enough.
Which is perhaps why he felt like he was a part
of this relationship so that he could feel superior to her.
True. Right.
I mean, just a devastating,
it almost doesn't matter to me
when you say something like that
and then don't apologize to it,
it's like, who cares if he's cheating on you?
Like, someone who says that to you
and doesn't apologize,
that's not worth sticking around for.
And again, how you kind of behave after that too like you can apologize but like locking somebody out of the room and and kind of
That kind of behavior. It's like you might be able to be like, ah, sorry like my bad
I was in a different headspace or whatever
But the other person is going to remember that right you're not gonna remember they're not gonna forget how you made them feel right?
Right, that's always gonna be floating in the background.
Yes.
And looks fade, but that piss poor attitude
will stay around.
Absolutely.
God is a**.
It is such a huge red flag for someone to
do something so horrible, say something so horrible,
and then a moment, an hour, a day later,
pretend like it never happened.
Right.
It's a huge red flag.
Yeah, it makes you feel like, did I overreact?
Yes.
Like as the person who like, if something happens to you,
you're like, wait, was it maybe not as bad as I thought
because now they're acting so chill about it?
Right.
Or, yeah.
It feels like a form of gaslighting.
Yeah, exactly.
Where it's like, was I not there?
Did I make that up?
Was I maybe half asleep?
Like, did I misinterpret these messages?
Like, makes you question everything
that happened for yourself.
Especially if you love someone for a certain amount of time
and you have this trust and stuff,
then you kind of default to, well, you're my partner,
so I'm gonna trust in you
that you're in the same reality I'm in.
Yes, yes.
It betrays that safety, that sense of like,
I trust you to tell me when things are real
or when I'm off or when something is off
and now no longer.
It also, it denies what the relationship's supposed to be,
which is like a teamwork thing, where it's like,
hey, if we have a disagreement, if we're upset
at each other, that's our problem together.
And I don't get to just move on and leave you there.
We have to both be in it and figure it out together.
And he knows it's his fault,
but that's why he's trying to just bounce off.
Talk about a mattress baguette.
He's such a mattress baguette, dude.
Seriously.
I think we're gonna get something going here.
We're gonna make it happen.
This first comment is a doozy.
As a therapist who has worked with some couples
impacted by infidelity, I'm going to tell you two things.
One, there is no pretty privilege
when it comes to infidelity.
Attractive people get cheated on every day.
Unattractive people cheat every day too.
So your husband's stance that you're not attractive enough
to cheat on him and that he's safe
because he's attractive is nonsense.
Two, your husband knows you.
He knows your insecurities and he knows
what buttons to push.
He knows you struggle with self-confidence
and he saw that opportunity to poke at your soft spot
and he went right on ahead and jabbed at it anyway.
Part of marriage is being vulnerable
with your partner about our insecurities
and he took that and had zero hesitation to use that
against you in an argument.
To me, that says a lot about a partner.
The wound he created with his careless words is twofold.
Not only are you questioning the attraction
between the two of you, but you're also questioning
the ability to be vulnerable with your own husband
about your insecurities going forward.
Farathist on Reddit.
Rock on.
Wow.
That's awesome.
Although when a therapist is on Reddit,
I go, can I trust you?
That 13 year old really whipped that up.
Right, right.
They're gonna believe that.
That was incredible though, that was really good.
It's incredibly poignant.
Someone else commented, mask slipped.
Lastly, someone said, no man who truly loves and cares
for you would say something like that to you,
especially over something like that.
He was jealous, which can be understandable,
but took absolutely zero time to listen to your side
or even let you give any further explanation.
I think, you know, it's so hard to admit
and it's a scary thing to admit, but I think in you know, it's so hard to admit and it's a scary thing to admit,
but I think in a relationship, especially if you're married,
you just have to have that trust and comfortability.
To be honest, if you're feeling any sort of insecurity
or jealousy, that those feelings are fine.
It's how you handle them that's the problem.
And it's like, oh, should I go with this job?
It's just like, and if he was just like,
I feel weird because he was your ex
and I know that it's fine.
And then she would probably have responded with,
oh dude, like don't worry about it.
We don't talk about this.
Nobody hooks up over LinkedIn.
But instead he went right to that.
Oof.
Yeah.
That's a bummer too, because I was hoping,
when I first was listening to the story,
I was like, oh, it seems like obviously
he thinks she's very beautiful,
he is very attracted to her.
He's married to her.
Right, but it's clear that it's actually
just a power dynamic and he wants it that way
to where he feels more attractive than her.
Right.
It'd be interesting to see them in person too,
because this is her self-assessment.
Yeah.
And yes, she's talking about examples with her husband,
but it's just interesting,
because there are plenty of people who just,
their self-image is so different from reality.
Right.
That you don't really know what's going on.
So we should comment.
As a therapist, send pic.
As a therapist senpick
Our next story comes from relationship advice
28 year old woman writes my husband who's 31 thinks I'm cheating because we went through a box of condoms
How do I bring it up without sounding defensive?
My husband and I are both pretty low libido. We aim for intimacy maybe once or twice a week on average.
Because of that, we don't go through condoms very fast,
or at least I thought that was the case.
Recently, I initiated, and when I reached for an empty box,
I told him we were out and would have to wait until tomorrow.
He got all confused and said,
"'How did we already go through a whole box?'
I kind of laughed it off at first,
but then he seemed genuinely upset,
saying, the math doesn't add up.
He pretty much implied that I must be cheating
because we couldn't have gone through them all
with just the two of us.
Now I'm the one upset.
I have never cheated and would never do that,
and it hurts that he'd even go there.
I thought our pace was pretty normal,
but apparently he's convinced something isn't right.
I even offered to go over the timing with him
to show that we've just used them as expected,
but it's clear he's still doubting me.
I get that maybe he's feeling insecure
or there's something else going on,
but I don't even know how to start unpacking that with him
when I feel like my loyalty is already on trial here.
Has anyone else dealt with something this weird?
How do I talk to him without sounding like
I'm projecting slash defensive slash affirming his doubts?
What were you calculating?
How many months we would use up all those condoms?
I think it would be six months worth of time
for two condoms a week, four weeks in a month.
I mean, that's implying that it's one condom per session,
if you know what I mean.
No way, maybe he's got six cocks.
He's busting them out.
He's putting them on his nipples.
Blowing them up, making a balloon.
He's putting it over his head and blowing it up.
And then he's like, I never did that.
This is an insane reaction.
No, it sounds like my man's as bad at math.
Right, there's so many things that are insane with it,
but we simply have to talk about
why she declared that as low libido.
Twice a week is awesome.
Low libido, once or twice a week.
I'm celibate, I guess.
That makes me wonder if her husband
is like stating that to her.
Like, oh, we just never have sex,
we're low libido,
cause we only have it twice a week.
Yeah.
He's forgetting how many cocks he's got.
His mattress baguette, you know.
Yes.
Yeah, this, unfortunately, what if he's dumb?
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, what if he's dumb?
That's what I'm saying.
What if he's dumb, which is fine.
That's fine, you can be dumb.
But you can't respond like this.
No, no, he's toxic dumb.
It's also disrespectful to her to think
if she's cheating on him
that she's just gonna use the same condom.
Right, the house condoms? Yeah yeah but they keep in a big bowl in the
center of the room on the floor can I get the house condom it's a blend is
that okay yeah he's like babe meet me at this hotel, and she's like, one sec, I gotta go to the bowl.
Scoops.
I, this is, I don't know if this applies necessarily here,
but I actually think sometimes the most suspicious thing
is when someone jumps to cheating
as an assumption right away.
Yes.
And I'm like, why is that your first assumption?
Right, that's what I meant with that last story,
is like, why did you go right there immediately?
And I do think it's a common thing,
you know, with cheaters, to be suspicious of it.
Yeah.
And I don't know, that's interesting.
I don't know if this just happened like last night
and she's writing about it,
or if this has been an ongoing thing.
It depends on how long he doesn't let this go.
Yeah.
That's a wild assumption to draw
just because you ran out of condoms.
Yeah.
Like it feels like there has to be something deeper
that he is upset about.
Or could it be that he has been suspecting
that she's cheating and he's choosing
to relay it through it?
Yeah, I'm gonna be a little bit
of a conspiracy theorist here.
A little bit of a Reddit conspiracy theorist.
I don't love how confidently she was like,
yeah, we're low libido, we only have sex
once or twice a week, followed by his immediate suspicion,
has me wondering if he's like, yeah, we barely have sex,
we only have sex once or twice a week.
And he's also suspicious this quickly.
I'm not gonna say this, because I only have this story,
but this is kind of cheater behavior in some way.
Comments, once or twice a week sure doesn't sound like low libido if you hit twice a week frequently
You are easily above the average
He needs to explain himself as to why he is doubting your loyalty and I would tell him that straight up
Less worrying about how you come across he insulted you put a big mark on your marriage
He needs to answer for it
Not you so no said instead of defending yourself,
refocus on the fact that if your husband believes
you are cheating on him, then there is something
deeply wrong with your marriage.
It's not about trying to convince him that you're faithful,
it's about him making the accusation.
Lastly, someone said, the one who is accusing
the other of cheating is usually the cheater themselves,
at least usually on these Reddit stories.
Careful, OP, he might be projecting.
In fact, if he persists in accusing you,
consider turning it around onto him,
especially since he refused to go over
the timelines with you.
Ooh.
Yeah, there's no update on this,
but I'm highly suspicious of this guy.
Right. Yeah, I don't like it.
Based on this info.
Right.
Okay, we have a, the OP responded to a comment
and I think this gives me all the context I was looking for.
She wrote, I'm going to start marking the calendar
on the days that we do have sex.
I hate to have to track it,
but he does have a tendency to pester me after three days
and tell me it's been a while.
And I have to remind him that it really hasn't been.
I knew it.
No, he has convinced her that they're low libido.
Yeah, no.
And pester too?
Uh-uh.
Like clearly if there's an issue,
just kind of, like there's another way to navigate that
but not being like, hey.
I guarantee you.
Me.
I hope I'm wrong, but I guarantee you
if she does find out that he's cheating on her,
he'd be like, well, you never have sex with me.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Yeah.
That's what I think is going on.
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This comes from relationship advice.
What was that?
A 40-year- old man wrote this.
I started to cheat on my wife, who's 38,
but stopped halfway through.
Do I still tell her?
What?
No!
Does that mean?
I stopped halfway through.
I only did a little cheating.
My wife and I have a great relationship.
And three.
Cool.
My wife and I have a great relationship.
I can't say I have any real complaints.
We have been together for five years, married for two of those,
and up until now I would have said I would never stray.
I was away for work last week,
and while I was in the hotel, a young woman, 21,
sat next to me and began to flirt with me.
I was extremely flattered by the attention.
I have to admit, it was a real ego boost
to be flirted with by someone so young
as I've started to get that middle-aged dad bod
and have been feeling like I'm losing my looks a bit.
After a bit of talking, the woman invited herself
back up to my hotel room where we began to have sex.
For me, it was all about the thrill of being desired
by someone other than my wife,
especially by a very young woman.
I was slightly drunk and I figured I'll probably never
get the opportunity to sleep with a 21-year-old again.
But the thrill wore off very quickly
as I realized that I wasn't enjoying myself.
This girl was not good in bed.
She basically just laid there and star fished.
Sometimes she would pull herself into what she thought
was a sexy pose, but that was it.
She didn't seem interested in me at all.
I might as well have been a human dildo
because she seemed more interested in herself
and how sexy she thought she was.
Sex with my wife has always been amazing.
When I'm with my wife, she's all over me,
talking to me and telling me how hot I am,
grabbing me, touching me, getting on top and so on.
I feel like the hottest guy in the world
when I'm in bed with my wife.
With this girl, I felt like I could leave the room
and she might not even notice, let alone care.
She seemed like she just wanted the ego boost
of a guy finding her attractive.
I couldn't stay aroused and I stopped about 10 minutes
into it and asked her to leave, which she did.
I took a shower and then called my wife to hear her voice.
Now I'm back home and so far I haven't told my wife
about any of it.
There's a guilty part of me that says I should
because she deserves to know, but another part of me says,
why should I torpedo
our happy marriage and cause her pain
for something that I didn't even enjoy
and will never do again?
All it did was prove to me that I want my wife
more than anyone else.
I wanna do the right thing, but I genuinely don't know
what the right thing to do is here.
I know that I will never ever stray again.
Should I tell her or keep it to myself?
Okay, you already torpedoed.
I'm so, you already torpedoed by doing this.
Also, she invited herself up to your room.
I believe you invited her to your room.
Yep. Sir.
Sir.
Too late.
It's already done.
I'm going up to your hotel room,
I don't know how I'm gonna feel about this.
Right.
Right.
Uh oh.
I hope I say okay to that.
And he's also framing this being like,
well I stopped halfway.
And it's like, not because you were guilty,
but because she was bad.
Yeah.
She was bad in bed, so you stopped,
and then you were like, wee.
I guess sex with my wife's pretty cool.
Which all the wonderful things you're listening
about your wife is not gonna make anybody
feel bad for King. No.
Like, I am sure these comments are tearing him
a new one, being like, you fumbled,
you lost your wife, you had it,
and it's your fault for not recognizing that.
You don't have to go have sex with somebody else
to be like, oh my God, wait, I love my wife.
That's so true.
Wait a minute.
I cannot believe this man wrote those words.
Like that's baffling.
Unbelievable.
Halfway through he's there, he's just like,
I understand now.
It all makes sense.
Halfway through, he's got a 20 minute time limit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
God.
He literally knew, he was like, that was exactly halfway.
I was halfway, he's like, and?
I think I'm done.
It's quite clear what the advice is.
It was also not halfway.
That was, that was.
Ten minutes, that's, you're involved.
That was all in.
Halfway would be like, I took my shirt off,
and then you're like, I don't know.
I was gonna say, like, I thought it could've maybe
just ended with the flirtation downstairs
of like being in the hotel room,
and she was flirting, and him being like,
oh, well yeah, you know, you're attractive too,
I'm interested, like, whatever,
and then being like, wait, what am I doing?
I am married, I'm interested, like whatever. And then being like, wait, what am I doing? I am married.
And stopping there, which even in that case is wrong.
Like that is a whole nother case of emotional cheating,
but he literally went upstairs
and started having sex with her.
There's no halfway.
The second, yeah, the second he's engaging with her
in any sort of real way, but especially the second
that they are walking
to the hotel room is for me,
it almost doesn't matter past that.
That's the decision that you made.
And he could have stopped it there,
and it still is like you need to absolutely
have a massive conversation with your wife.
And it probably is gonna be severe and suck.
He's talking about it like,
oh, why be honest with her, that'll torpedo.
It's like you torpedoed it.
You already torpedoed it.
You already torpedoed it.
Right.
It's gonna be, I think it's gonna be,
there is less of a chance if you don't talk to her.
I can't say it would be for this situation,
but in the limited knowledge that I have
on the research and stuff,
is that what tends to happen when someone cheats,
and especially with affairs,
but it's like, it actually weirdly causes resentment
in the cheater,
because their partner doesn't know,
and it creates this disconnect for them,
and it's this rift that's gonna grow
between the two of you.
It's impossible to really move on from
and be in any sort of real relationship.
It's so disrespectful to her.
How he's even contemplating not telling her
is a whole other thing.
This is awful.
That guilt is gonna grow inside of him
like a little gross little tumor thing.
Or the lack, or it will be that issue where,
by, and it's this weird thing, I'm gonna butcher this,
but in psychology, doing a bad thing
can actually make you worse,
because your brain then has to justify it.
So then your brain morphs to, that was okay for me to do.
And now that's where you're at.
And it's like, these things grow in ourselves.
It's why you kind of have to, you do have to acknowledge and treat things in your own head
to mend it, almost like it is a wound that's inside of your own self.
Like a moral wound, and you kind of have to be like, wait, that's wrong, I have to acknowledge that
and work on that.
Right.
I think it's clear to say that this guy
is only thinking about himself,
not just in the cheating on his wife,
but that he considers sex incomplete or not full the way
because he didn't finish.
Right. Right.
So then it's not.
It's entirely an act for himself.
Right.
A lot of bad signs. Yeah, so then it's not. It's entirely an act for himself. Right. A lot of bad signs.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's see what these comments say.
Oh, I'm excited.
Oh, this will help.
It sounds like you only regret having sex
with this other woman because she was bad in bed.
If this 21 year old was incredible in bed
and better than your wife in bed,
would you have stopped in the middle?
Someone else said, you didn't start to cheat,
you cheated, hard stop.
You worded it this way to make yourself not sound bad.
Let me say it again, you cheated.
Don't forget that you said you didn't enjoy it
because you felt she wasn't that into it.
Would you have felt bad and still stopped
if you thought she was great in bed?
Again, you cheated.
Lastly, someone said you didn't stop
because you felt bad for cheating on your wife.
You stopped because you were disappointed in the sex.
I think that says a lot.
If she had been good in bed,
you likely would have done it with no second thought.
You didn't start to cheat on your wife.
You cheated on your wife.
She deserves to know, don't act like you're doing her
a favor by not causing her pain.
Tell her you're delusional.
Incredible.
Yep, 10 out of 10.
10 out of 10.
Now that's the Reddit therapist. I'm not sure if that's the right answer. I'm not sure if that's the right answer.
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I'm not sure if that's the right answer. I'm not sure if that's the right answer you will be happy to read this update, maybe not.
I was still not sure whether to tell my wife what happened or not after making the post. This is not because I'm selfish, like some of you said, but because I was struggling to find
the logic in telling her something that would hurt her when she didn't need to know because
it was never going to happen again. But I did also take on board what others said about how if it was
them, they would want to know, and to some point, I agreed with them about that.
It didn't end up mattering because my wife realized
something was up a few days after I got back
from my work trip.
As that happens.
Yeah, this guy doesn't exactly scream.
The people who believe that they're gonna get away with shit,
you are either being able to get away with it,
I think is worse.
Then you're even more.
What does it say about you?
Or two, you're not gonna get away with it.
No.
This guy needs to be bonked in the head
with a certain kind of baguette.
Right.
My wife realized something was up after a few days
after I got back from my work trip.
She brought up how I'd been very quiet
and seemed off ever since getting back
and she looked and sounded so worried about me that I decided in the moment to tell her work trip, she brought up how I'd been very quiet and seemed off ever since getting back,
and she looked and sounded so worried about me that I decided in the moment to tell her
I didn't want us to have any secrets from each other.
I told her everything.
She didn't believe me at first.
She believed I'd started to sleep with the other woman, but not that I had stopped or
that the sex was bad.
I showed her the Reddit post I made so she could see I wasn't just giving her a flattering story
to try and get off the hook.
She started to cry while reading it
and then said the sentence that has been going around
and around my head 24 seven since then.
I loved you so much.
Loved past tense.
I asked if she could really just fall out of love
so quickly and she said yes.
In the space of a few minutes,
I had gone from the love of her life
and the man she wanted to grow old with
to just another sad man having a midlife crisis.
We talked for most of the night, but she wouldn't budge.
She turned down my offer of marriage counseling
or counseling for just myself.
I suggested we take a short week's break
so she can think about things, but her mind is made up.
We are filing for divorce and in the meantime, I am sleeping in our spare room so she can remain in our marital bed.
This is not how I wanted any of this to go. She is without a doubt the woman I love and the woman
I will always love, and if I could go back in time, I would lock myself in my hotel room for
the entire work trip and only come out for the conference. I hold hope that she might one day
change her mind all the same.
Our connection is too strong to be destroyed
by 30 minutes of poor decision making.
It's a little more than that.
It's a little more than that.
Yeah.
I thought ordering a steak too rare.
Oh God, that was so stupid.
No, I liked it.
I don't want to, but like, it feels like
this could perhaps just genuinely be I don't want to, but it feels like
this could perhaps just genuinely be somebody who is actually, again, just very unaware,
who is, again, just stupid.
Just somebody who maybe doesn't understand
relationship dynamics or commitment.
Like, I'm not saying that that denies any of everything
we've said, and I think that the wife is completely
in the right, but like, I mean, even the ridiculousness
of him being like, no, no, no, honey, look,
I made it public and showed everybody.
Right, that's crazy.
And she's like, you're on Reddit?
Right. I don't love you anymore because of that. And it's crazy. And she was like, you're on Reddit? Right.
I don't love you anymore because of that.
And it's again, it's just like, okay,
so there has to be something where he's just actually
not getting that.
Which doesn't help in his promise
that he's never gonna do this again.
Totally, totally.
I hear what you're saying, and the tough thing
is that this is a post written by him.
And it's tough to know because he's in the after phase
of having done this.
In the phase where I think he is trying to justify it
to us as much as he is his wife.
So it makes me question the legitimacy of all these things.
What actually did happen between him and this woman, and then the hotel room.
It's hard to know, and the problem is his wife
is now in a situation of like,
I thought I knew you and I don't.
And that's really tough, and some people I think
immediately know, like, oh, I know myself enough
that this is done.
Yeah, there's no redeeming.
She thought she was married to someone
who would never do this to her,
and she found out, oh, I actually don't know you
because that's who I thought you were,
and now it's not the case.
So tragic.
Yeah, it's one of those areas
where cheating is such a weird sphere
where it's like you're not a murderer,
but as far as a relationship goes, like,
you've murdered the relationship.
Like it's as bad as it can get
before becoming full on crime territory.
Yeah.
To me, it's one of those situations where I'm like,
this is the commitment part of it,
where, you know, yeah, in our life we fluctuate,
we do all sorts of things, we make mistakes, whatever,
but I think it's a situation to me where I'm like,
this is an easy promise to make to someone
and to hold them just like, look man,
this is a hard line thing, just don't do this.
And I think the problem is, you know, they're 40,
I wonder how long they've been married.
You know, it could be many years,
it could be they've been married for 15 years.
So they made that promise 15 years ago
and they go, yeah, for sure, we're never going to.
I think it was five.
Oh, is it five years?
Is that a different story?
Maybe I'm remembering it differently.
Have they been married for about five years?
For five years.
They've been married for five years.
Yeah.
And I don't know how long they've been together,
but I think some people,
they get into some situations where they go,
well, I'm in a situation where I've been feeling bad
about myself, and we haven't been talking, whatever. And they justify it. And to me, I'm in a situation where I've been feeling bad about myself and we haven't been talking, whatever, and they justify it.
And to me, I'm just like, it's one of those where it's like,
it's just make it a rule for yourself.
Because it will destroy it.
No matter what, it's gonna be a bad outcome.
Just no matter how right it might feel in the moment,
just say no.
And it's important, I think, too,
to establish that for yourself, right?
Absolutely.
Where is it in terms of your value?
How much could you potentially forgive a partner
if that happened to you?
And this woman seems pretty clear
in at least following her heart in the moment
of being like, I know how I feel now.
It's such an interesting thing, you're right,
and it's such a case-by-case basis,
because I know a lot of the times, too,
in situations like substances can get involved, too.
And that is often an excuse of,
oh, my thinking was impaired, and it's like, well.
It's such a shitty excuse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's just like, well, but yeah, I agree.
I don't think I would accept that,
but in this situation, it's like,
the hardest that you could make this is, he realizes it right away.
He does go and tell his wife, he fully apologizes
and is like, I don't know what I was thinking
and I was out of my mind.
And then it's like, wow, what do I do?
You know?
It really is just like an individual thing
that you have to self-reflect and understand
where you feel on it.
And sometimes you don't understand until it happens to you,
which is heartbreaking.
It's a good thing that she got out of that,
because he clearly is very much creating a narrative
for himself that, yeah, I feel like she doesn't know him
anymore, so I'm glad she's free of that.
Yeah.
To hear, to have someone tell you that they cheated on you
and try to follow it up with any sort of excuse
or justification.
I think it would have been over either way,
but it makes me wonder had he not followed it up
with all the excuses and justification,
if it would have been different at all, probably not.
But it's certainly not what you want to hear.
No. Right.
This is such an unreliable narrator.
Absolutely.
Right now.
Made me want to choke up.
My inclination based on the wife's reaction,
I think this is all many degrees worse
than what we're getting.
Absolutely.
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Did he cheat or did I catch an STD from a koala?
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Yes.
This is what we're about.
This is a 27 year old woman.
My husband who's 28 and I have been together for five years
after being friends for most of my teenage years.
We have two sons and this took place in March of 2020
when I was three months pregnant with my second child.
I had gone to my 13 week scan follow up
after the ultrasound alerted something wasn't right.
I fully expected the worst, but my GP just said
they could see something on the scans
with my fallopian tubes.
Nothing was wrong with the baby
and wanted to get bloods and swabs done.
When the results came back,
my GP called me to come in urgently.
That's when she showed me that my tests had returned positive for chlamydia.
I was shocked and my GP knew I had been with my husband for years.
She was my doctor all the way back when my first son was born.
She knew all of our history.
She straight up asked me if our relationship was monogamous, and I of course said yes.
She gave me the rundown of treatments and scripts telling me that my husband would need to come be tested as well to confirm before
He too would likely need treatment all with a look of pity
She was thinking it I was thinking it my partner had cheated on me and given me an STD
I'm furious and heartbroken, but I go home and take a hot shower scrubbing myself clean
Then I sit down in our home our family photo hung on the wall mocking me and call him
He is at work and I'm crying on the phone explaining that I've just been to the doctors
and gotten results that I'm positive for chlamydia. And how could you do this, you bastard? All the
works. I hang up and he is calling me over and over, but I'm trying to calm down as I have to
collect our son from daycare and still be put together as a mother somehow. I ignore his calls
and go about my day utterly crushed.
I'm giving our son dinner when he comes home.
He comes into the house and sets his stuff down loudly
and throws his keys at the wall.
He sees that I've got our son,
so he just walks into the bedroom and slams the door
and I hear the shower run.
I'm confused and even more hurt
because I don't know what I was expecting,
but this wasn't it.
I finish feeding our son and bed routine,
then settle him to sleep. It's about 8 p.m. by now and I was expecting, but this wasn't it. I finished feeding our son and bed routine, then settle him to sleep.
It's about eight p.m. by now and I'm exhausted,
but I go to the room to talk to my husband
and he is sitting on the bed
holding his head in his hands, crying.
I walk over to him and say,
I don't know how you could do this to me and our family,
but you've given me an STD and you also need to get tested
and take this medication.
He looks at me, eyes red raw,
yelling that I am a sick and twisted person for cheating
on him, getting an STD and then blaming him for it.
I have never cheated and I hate cheating.
It's a disgusting act to do to someone you love.
But he is adamant that he has also never strayed and our argument ends with us waking up our
son so I go to settle him.
When I came out, he had packed a bag and was leaving.
He said he was going to stay with his parents for a bit.
He left, I cried all night.
The next few weeks were hell.
He tested positive, obviously,
both of us accusing each other.
It got to the point that I asked if he wanted to separate
because I didn't see how this could be resolved
since neither of us would own up.
He said he would tell me the answer
if the pregnancy I was carrying truly was his
after a paternity test. We went and got the pregnancy I was carrying truly was his after a paternity test
We went and got the tests and of course, it was his child
We went to therapy which never really solved anything
He eventually moved back in all of our history combined with knowing that at the end of the day
I loved this man and didn't want a broken family was a big part of why I eventually decided to just accept
That he cheated and wouldn't own up to it. We just moved on with life.
I loved him and a part of me thought
him admitting it would be worse.
I'd want to know names, faces, details, and ugh.
As more time went by, I became okay with leaving it.
So it's more than two and a half years later now,
and Adam is scrolling through TikTok
when this reel with Robert Irwin comes on.
He was talking about how the biggest threat
to koala populations
is chlamydia. I swear if a light bulb appeared in his head it would have shown out of his
ears because I saw him start to piece things together. He now has come to the conclusion
that he thinks he did give me chlamydia but not through cheating. Back in mid late 2019
there were huge bushfires in Queensland. OP lives in Australia. In September, Adam and I attended
the Bohemian Beat Freaks Festival,
and along our drive into camp,
we came across so many koalas that had been displaced.
The event was nearly canceled due to fires
burning near the site in the weeks prior,
so these koalas were just by the side of the road, exhausted.
At one point, we pulled over,
and Adam grabbed some water for these poor guys.
One little fellow was so thirsty and exhausted, was holding on to my partner's arm as he
drank.
And yes, Adam picked this koala up and gave him a cuddle.
And yes, the koala proceeded to pee all over his shirt and arm.
We laughed it off, moved him off the road track and continued on.
Now being a festival in the middle of the bush, there are only showers that you pay
for.
We were not planning on using it to shower until the last day.
He had taken off the shirt and washed his hands with bottled water.
We arrived and set up camp and then went to a party and forgot about the koala completely.
Over those days we had sex a lot.
Yeah, writing this now I realize how gross it all sounds,
but that's the culture of Aussie bush doofs.
And we were young parents who had a rare break from having our son.
So we go down a rabbit hole of research and find out that, yes, you can catch it from
koalas.
Fuck me.
Adam is so fast to make an appointment at our GP's office.
We show up and explain everything, and even she agreed with him that, yes, it is possible
that is where the STD could have originated from.
We were completely asymptomatic, so we could have had it from then, and then it was only detected during my pregnancy. So now we have an explanation and my husband
is all for it. He says it all makes sense and I can see how he has changed since then.
He is more relaxed with me, more trusting, but a part of me having thought it was from
him being unfaithful has stuck. Our relationship has still been okay these last few years,
but I'll admit it's been strained. Our sex life dwindled a lot,
and we both became almost toxic with each other
in terms of who the other was talking to or texting,
always feeling on edge when the other was out alone,
et cetera.
He would randomly come out with,
you can tell me the truth and I'll still love you.
So many times that it would spark an argument,
and our friends who knew the story had ditched us long ago
thinking that one of us was a cheater and the other was stupid for staying.
We learned to keep this part of our lives private to avoid all the bull crap.
Since finding this out, it's like my husband has changed again. He is back to the loving, affectionate, caring man he was before this started.
He has accepted this explanation so easily. But now, how do I wrap my head around that my husband did in fact give me chlamydia,
but from a fucking koala?
And how do we undo all the toxic crap that has been between us and move into a healthier
trusting relationship?
I still in some ways feel as if he cheated on me, and I'm not able to completely let
this go because truly, unless he says something different, I'll never really know, and this
seems too convenient to the whole situation to put me at ease.
I just don't know. It sounds crazy, but this has been my life for nearly three years with
this new information stressing me out again these last six odd months.
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Let's just take a collective breath.
Yeah, let's sit in that for a second, guys.
Let's hold space for koalas.
Yeah, let's do that.
That's good.
Oh.
Wow. Okay's good.
Wow. Wow. Okay. Wow.
So, I'm a little curious.
I've been to Australia, but I don't know Australia too well.
Is this not something that a doctor would be like,
hey, we do also have koalas around.
Right. And they've all got chlamydia. Yeah. Right. a doctor would be like, hey, we do also have koalas around.
And they've all got chlamydia. Yeah, or like, sorry, you're not gonna do
any other research two and a half years before.
Like, you're gonna go through all of that
and not look up any other way.
How could I have gotten chlamydia?
How could I have gotten chlamydia?
Like, Google that, right?
I mean, I guess, to be fair, besides koalas, there really is only one way.
Only one other way.
I think I knew that koalas carry chlamydia.
Now, to be fair, a koala did pee all over him.
And he didn't bathe.
And he didn't bathe.
Right, and then they fucked around like koalas.
Yeah.
Huge.
Thank you.
So, I mean, that's a lot that happened.
Right. I'm also of the, I mean, that's a lot that happened. Right.
I'm also of the, I mean, man, like you handle
a wild animal, a wild animal pees on you,
you might wanna go to the doctor and make sure
that you didn't catch anything from that.
Right.
So.
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
It's all very peculiar.
I was just gonna say peculiar. Yeah, really? Wow. It's all very peculiar. I was just gonna say peculiar.
Yeah, really?
Yes.
Really is peculiar.
What is, this is a fascinating story
in that they likely didn't cheat on each other,
but they lived through three years
of thinking that they cheated on each other.
Yeah.
And does that not do the same damage as?
And that is as damaging, it might as well have happened.
Right. And they did also see what they would do
if they cheated on one another and just moving on from it,
they desperately need couples therapy
because what they've now gone through is pretty rough.
I mean, we touched on this point earlier, right?
Like if somebody does cheat,
it's likely that you're gonna be able to see that, and I would think if they were caught
or exposed in this way, you would've kind of been able
to detect it in him.
He's either a master manipulator or a koala pissed
all over him with, and he got that chlamydia.
And it's crazy to say that the koala is the obvious choice.
The koala seems more believable to me right now.
Yeah.
There's one comment here.
All right, so I searched it up
because I was curious to see if it was true
and well, yeah, it is.
This is what came up for those
who don't feel like searching it up yourself.
Yes, koalas can give chlamydia to humans.
Chlamydia is a common sexually transmitted disease
in humans and a different strain of the bacteria
can infect koalas.
This strain can be spread through contact
with an infected koala's urine or feces.
Now, different strain.
Will it still pop up on the tests
and the doctors at this chlamydia?
Like, does that mean it is the same chlamydia
or is that going to be a different chlamydia?
It's still chlamydia, it's just a different strain.
I just don't know if the doctor's tests
are looking for the humankind in general, just the humankind. There's certainly a lot looking. I just don't know if the doctor's tests are looking for the human kind in general,
just the human kind.
There's certainly a lot looking for the koala kind.
We have one other comment.
A comment above says it's a different strain in koalas.
Could the lab tell which if they still have the results?
Would that strain even show up on a human STD panel?
I'll say more therapy is needed now though,
and it seems like time is needed too,
as this is a newer adjustment to your reality.
The trauma you both felt for years is real
and your body can't tell that it was based on something
that may not be true.
OP responded, I don't know,
but this is something I'm going to ask my GP next now.
If there are different strains,
surely they can tell on a test.
I might have just found the actual concrete answer
I've been looking for.
Thank you.
Update. Oh my for, thank you. Wow.
Update.
Oh my God, thank you.
Oh no.
I was so hoping that we could get this answer.
Oh no.
Oh no?
So if, sorry I haven't read anything.
If it's not koala chlamydia.
Then there was.
If it's not koala midia.
Koala midia, then it's cheating.
If it's not koala midia, then it's not only cheating, it's like nowala-midea. Koala-midea, then it's cheating. If it's not koala-midea, then it's not only cheating.
It's like now we're at nuclear level.
Right, right.
That three years later, he found an excuse on TikTok
and was like.
Got it.
And that means he put his face down and cried,
lying to her.
That's insane.
And the koala just happened to pee on him.
Oh boy. Okay, let's hear it.
Ladies and gentlemen, bring out the koala.
Koala walks out.
Oh, I want to hold and cuddle one.
All right. What are your bets?
Koala chlamydia? Regular chlamydia.
I love whimsy.
So I'm going to bet it's koala-midea.
Okay.
Then I guess I have to bet opposite,
and I have to say that the man is a master manipulator.
It is not great options to choose from.
No.
No, they're not.
Okay.
I sat my husband down last evening
and spoke about how I'm feeling now that we know the truth.
I talked about how much pain I've been put through
with him accusing me and vice versa.
And I apologize for my part in things. Told him how much I loved him and much pain I've been put through with him accusing me and vice versa, and I apologized for my part in things.
Told him how much I loved him and how happy I was
to finally put this to rest now that we both know
there is nothing between us.
And then he starts fidgeting and getting upset,
and he tells me that he cheated.
Whimsy is dead.
Yep, I know, but he still didn't give me the STD, he says.
In the months, oh fuck.
No!
In the months after finding out,
yes, our relationship was in a really bad place,
when he wasn't living at home at that time,
he went out and had a one-night stand
with a girl from a pub in the town over.
He explained that he genuinely believed that I cheated,
and after a few drinks, he decided he was going
to end things with me, so he went ahead
with sleeping with this girl.
It was his way of getting back at me.
Plus, he was convinced that our baby wasn't his,
so he was really in a broken place.
But the next day we met up, and this was the day
I brought up separating, and he said that instantly
he had a regret and felt as if things were even now. He decided he would stay if I did a
paternity test and the baby was his, which he was. He thought that if I was
never going to tell him I cheated, he would never tell me either. He only told
me now because he realized how stupid he was and wishes he could take it back but
he can't. Now this koala knowledge has left him feeling guilty
I asked about the girl and he says he only knows her first name hasn't had contact with her since and she means nothing
But my god this blows remember how I said in my post that since finding out my husband is back to his caring affectionate self
Well now I know why he was trying to make up for his mess-up and people were mad at me for not instantly
Accepting that my STD could have come
From a koala, but I swear there was a part of me that instinctively knew this maybe that's why I was holding on
It all feels hollow. I feel numb
I'm sitting on a park bench right now while our sons play and I just don't know what to do
Cheating is a deal-breaker for me and I never slept with anyone
I never considered a payback tit for tat move against him.
So why did he do it to me?
I'm heartbroken and a part of me wishes
we could go back to before all of this happened.
I can't break up my family.
We have two kids, two dogs, two cats,
two cars and a house together.
It would be a mess,
but I don't know how to take this on now.
He could have told me this six months ago
when we first found out about this new possibility,
but he didn't. He waited until I poured my heart out to him in an apology to dump on me this six months ago when we first found out about this new possibility, but he didn't.
He waited until I poured my heart out to him
in an apology to dump on me this confession.
I can't look at him right now and he knows it.
I guess I'll take a few days to process
and then decide things, but I'll probably stay.
I love him so much even though this has broken
a little part of me I just found again.
Oh well.
I get that a lot of people are now convinced
my husband is some sick sadist, but I genuinely do not believe that is true. I don't think he manipulated
me for years. I don't think he gave me the STD or cheated before all of that crap happened.
I do believe the STD came from the koala. Why admit to things now if not? Before, yeah,
he felt justified, but now he just thinks he is an idiot for doing what he did. I believe
him when he says it was the only time it's ever happened.
And if people think I'm a fool, that's okay.
I'm processing this all in my own time, regardless.
But the way I see it, we had a really unfortunate thing happen and the STD planted doubt.
And he fucked up.
But the way it came out shows me that my husband is dedicated.
Man, I really skipped over writing about our actual conversation when he confessed, but
it wasn't manipulative at all
It was raw and ugly and in no way did he blame me. He only kept repeating
I really thought you cheated and I'm a fucking idiot and I'm so sorry
I'm going to take the advice of a few people who have said I should take a break
I've asked him to go stay at his parents whilst I think things through and take time and yes
I did say that cheating was a deal- breaker for me, but my actions have shown otherwise.
So that's something I've learned about myself.
Maybe that was just an ideal that a younger me
that viewed the world in black and white held onto.
But now I've experienced how life has much more to it,
and I guess now that it's not the case anymore.
Another person said that the stages of grief aren't linear,
and it seems as if I've started at acceptance.
Maybe that's true too.
Either way, a break, some hard conversations
with the therapist and my own choice
will be the determining factor in the fate of my marriage.
So it was the third option.
So it was the one we didn't consider.
Where it was both.
Where it was both.
So we did find out that the koala did give?
The koala did give in Commedia.
Koala gave. Koalaydia. Koala gave.
Koala gave.
So technically, if we're talking about the situation
before the chlamydia, no, they never cheated
on each other before then.
He got chlamydia from a koala, gave it to her,
they had chlamydia, they both assumed each other
was cheating on each other.
He then took that as, well, she's cheating on me,
this relationship's over, my son's not even mine,
I'm gonna get drunk and sleep with someone.
Then they kinda just go back to being together,
moving past it for three years.
Then he finds out, oh, she never did cheat on me.
And now I cheated on her.
And so now I have to confess.
But we have confirmed it it was Koala.
It was the Koala.
Wimsy isn't dead.
Truly.
It's given Koala.
It's given Koala.
This is Australian Shakespeare.
Yeah, that is an insane story to have.
Like for that to have happened to you and your marriage.
I mean, this is what we were kind of saying
with like the crazy situations of cheating, right?
Right, nuance, that's like a fucking seven layer cake.
Seance, yes.
Seance.
That's crazy, I mean, what do you do?
Do you forgive?
I mean, it's up to her.
She is allowed to do what she wants to do, right?
And it was a very like, you know,
mature ending of that post there to be like,
you know, it's complicated
and I don't wanna break up my family and,
Yeah.
You know, and she's the only one that talked to him,
so if she's there to gauge how he is
and how he reacted and stuff, I mean, it's up to her,
how she handles her marriage.
This is, yeah, I mean, this is up to her how she handles her marriage. This is, yeah.
I mean, this is that classic friend situation,
you know, where it's like, it's the Joey,
the we're on a break thing.
They were on a break,
and this was Ross and Rachel, how dare you?
Oh, Ross and Rachel.
I thought it was Joey.
I'm a Seinfeld guy, I don't know what this is.
You know, it's like when George.
Um, but like, this is. You know, it's like when George. What?
But like, this is such a unique,
I think everybody would have a completely different strategy.
Absolutely.
Wait, sorry, I just need to make it known
they were not on a break.
I just need to make sure that that's where I stand on that.
So I can tell you. They were not on a break.
They were not on a break.
I mean, they were on a break,
but still what he did was inappropriate.
Just need to make sure that that is known.
It's, yeah.
This is truly tragedy.
Tragedy level insane story.
I am so curious what people in the comments
would say they would do.
Cause I just think it's all over the place.
It's so hard to, yeah.
It's, I don't know. How do you comment on this?
I mean, I agree with what you said.
I think the way that she wrote out her feelings
were very eloquent, and I love that she said
she used to believe this, but now that she's
in this situation, she realizes that
that isn't actually how she feels,
and I'm glad that she isn't just being like,
well, this is what I feel, so I should do that.
She's actually following her heart and being present. isn't actually how she feels, and I'm glad that she isn't just being like, well, this is what I feel, so I should do that.
She's actually following her heart and being present.
And yeah, she has to kind of evaluate,
like, sure, maybe technically it might be okay or not okay,
but it's just the feeling of, are you able to move on?
Does it still feel appropriate to stay in this?
And having a family is a whole nother layer to it.
Because they have kids, they have two sons.
After kind of already mourning that issue,
you know, it's like they already went through the process
of like thinking they cheated on each other.
So it's like, what does your brain do when it's like,
oh, so that, oh, it wasn't real,
but it was real, but in a different way.
You have to redo the processing.
That's so crazy.
Yeah, when they go to a couples therapist,
that therapist's head is gonna spin around.
It's a koala in a sweater.
Yeah, so I don't think a koala did that to you.
Right, listen, koalas can control their pee, okay?
That's true.
That's crazy.
Yeah, wow.
Wow.
That's all I gotta say, that's my takeaway.
This is a huge wow.
Big wow for me.
Big wow.
Huge wow.
These have been some stories.
And that was stories.
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