Smosh Reads Reddit Stories - Not So Happy Holidays | Reading Reddit Stories

Episode Date: December 14, 2024

The holidays are upon us! Thanks for listening to the #9 podcast in the country :') Go to https://Zocdoc.com/PITREDDIT and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then find and book a top-rated doctor today.... Head to https://www.factor75.com/pitreddit and use code pitreddit50 to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping. 0:00 Intro 1:27 My bf gave stole my present to give to his mom https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/1dd5l3u/my_boyfriend_22m_gave_a_handmade_christmas/ 16:53 I told my sis not to bring her food to the meal https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1giyqrb/aita_for_telling_my_sister_shes_not_allowed_to/ 34:48 I caught on fire at a NYE party https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/7njsgs/tifu_by_catching_on_fire_at_a_nye_party/ 40:13 I gave my MIL a fake house key https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/rrjhmz/aita_for_giving_my_mil_a_fake_copy_of_my_house/ 48:10 I didn't get on a flight because he put my kids in economy https://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/vvdhkw/my_girlfriend_left_me_for_putting_the_christmas/ 58:48 I told my brother he can't stay with us if he brings his leg https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/18pqf0v/aitah_for_telling_my_brother_he_cannot_stay_with/ SUBSCRIBE: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshPit WEAR OUR JOKES: https://smosh.com WHO YOU HEAR Shayne Topp // https://www.instagram.com/shaynetopp/ Arasha Lalani // https://www.instagram.com/arashalalani_/ Trevor Evarts // https://www.instagram.com/trevorevarts/ WHO YOU DON’T HEAR (usually) Director: Bailey Petracek Editor: Vida Robbins Director of Programming, Smosh Pit: Emily Rose Jacobson Associate Producer, Smosh Pit: Bailey Petracek Production Designer: Cassie Vance Art Director: Erin Kuschner Assistant Art Director: Josie Bellerby Art Coordinator: Alex Aguilar Prop Master: Courtney Chapman Audio Mixer: Scott Neff Audio Utility: Matt Taylor Director of Photography: Brennan Iketani Camera Operator: James Hull Camera Operator: Eric Wann Assistant Director: Alexcina Figueroa Executive Vice President of Production: Amanda Barnes Production Manager: Alexcina Figueroa Production Coordinator: Zianne Hoover Operations & Production Coordinator: Oliver Wehlander Production Assistant: Quincy Bell Production Intern: Caroline Smith Post Production Manager: Luke Baker DIT/Lead AE: Matt Duran IT: Tim Baker Director of Design: Brittany Hobbs Graphic Designers: Ness Cardano, Monica Ravitch Senior Manager, Channel & Strategy: Lizzy Jones Channel Operations Coordinator: Audrey Carganilla Director of Social Media: Erica Noboa Social Creative Producer: Peter Ditzler, Tommy Bowe Merchandising Manager: Mallory Myers Social Media Coordinator: Kim Wilborn Social Media Intern: Mailyn Stiffler Talent Coordinator: Selina Garcia People Operations Specialist: Katie Fink Front Office Assistant: Sara Faltersack CEO: Alessandra Catanese EVP of Programming: Kiana Parker Coordinator Producer of Programming: Marcus Munguia Executive Coordinator: Rachel Collis OTHER SMOSHES: Smosh: https://smo.sh/Sub2Smosh Smosh Games: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshGames El Smosh (Spanish Dub): https://smo.sh/Sub2ElSmosh SmoshCast: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshCast FOLLOW US: TikTok: https://smo.sh/TikTok Snapchat: http://smo.sh/OnSnapchat Instagram: https://instagram.com/smosh Facebook: https://facebook.com/smosh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:49 for you today. And I am joined by two people who are bringing the holiday spirit, Trevor and Arasha. Two ho, ho, ho's. That's right. Ho, ho, ho's. That's right. Wow, Trevor, really cool sweater that you wore today.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Thank you. Yeah. Do you know, he's just, he's defecating down the chimney. I think we're gonna have to blur this, right? Santa Claus. Santa Claus. We can't show Santa's crackless ass. Well, I believe his ass is firmly planted in the chimney.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Yeah. It seems, you know, there's a lot to unpack here, but we don't have to do that right now. The holiday season can be a time for a lot of drama for a lot of people. Yeah. Have you ever dealt with holiday drama? I know I have Yeah, I'm sure. Okay. Yeah, I've gotten pretty lucky. Oh, I don't think there's been too much holiday drama for me I feel like when you have families involved especially like like extended families, and then you bring in like significant others, then you've got like a whole load of people
Starting point is 00:01:50 and emotions are high, people are getting presents for each other. I feel like there is, you're like asking for drama just with the season. That's kind of true. Yeah. Only kind of. Only kind of.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Well, let's see, we've got a bunch of stories here. This first one comes from best of. Only kind of. Well, let's see, we've got a bunch of stories here. This first one comes from best of Redditor updates. Okay. My boyfriend who's 22 gave a handmade Christmas present to his mother, 40 year old woman, that I, 22 year old woman, made. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:20 My boyfriend gave a handmade Christmas present to his mother that I made. Oh, okay, so a little past the present to the mom. Yeah, taking ownership of something she made. Okay, I mean let the girl in on it, but let's hear it. I make really cool vases as a hobby. These can take weeks to complete and are always made with the giftee in mind. My mom, who's 50, and I have always been into nature together.
Starting point is 00:02:41 We hike, we own animals, we eat outside if we can. I guess being into nature sounds weird. We just like being outside. So I made my mom a Siamese cat, Er. It looks like a vase, but the top is the cat's ears. It is super cute and I loved the way it turned out. No one died or anything, it was just the style of the piece. I had finished it and taken it to my apartment,
Starting point is 00:03:01 wrapped it up, and been so excited about it. Well, my boyfriend's mother came over and he didn't get her a Christmas slash birthday present. She loves cats, so he just gave her the piece I made, which she loved. My boyfriend does not live with me. He has his own apartment near his school. His mother came over before we went over for dinner
Starting point is 00:03:18 to see my new kitten. She was in tears over how nice the present was, and I ruined it. I told her that the presents must have gotten mixed up. That was made for my mother. She got a bit upset, gave it back, then my boyfriend went out to dinner with her. He said it would be best if I didn't come.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I guess she cried the whole way and he didn't have a present for her, so he looked like a bad son. I have trouble seeing where I am at fault. I understand that the nice thing would have been to remake a gift or let her just have it. However, it was one of my best pieces and I always give my mother art I make.
Starting point is 00:03:49 She loves it. She shows it off to everyone. It is something she takes great pride in. She has one from every Christmas and I never miss a year. She even shows off the crappy lumps I made as a kid. My boyfriend wants to talk tomorrow. I am not sure if he is going to break up with me or if he wants to yell at me for it.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I just need to know what people think. Was I a jerk? My boyfriend seems to think I was. I love this guy very much and really love his mom. She is super sweet and kind and never really gets nice things. I still don't think it is my job to cover for his lack of foresight.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Her birthday comes every year on the same day. It's not like it surprised him. I got her a card and a book, which I thought was nice. She thanked me for them later over text, but she seemed really sad about the cat vase I guess she was hoping I either made her something or my boyfriend actually got her something She really liked she loves cats and he has never gotten her anything cat themed It is always some cooking supplies or an apron which means he sucks at presents damn So I'm just not sure what to think does anyone have any idea what to do in this situation?
Starting point is 00:04:48 Wow. My thoughts exactly. Yeah. Santa's watching, okay? Yeah. Santa's watching. And he deserves a whole bunch of coal. Yeah. Looking like a bad son, he is a bad son.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah. Yeah, no, he's a terrible son. Terrible, but yeah, I mean. He's a terrible boyfriend. Yeah, that's so weird. And Zayda's kind of a double whammy. You're a bad son and a bad boyfriend at the same time. Yeah, so go home.
Starting point is 00:05:15 You need to own up to it. Yeah. Or you, frankly, you could lie in this situation and be like, oh shoot, my gift for you was on the way. Classic. Like frankly classic. That way you're trying to not hurt their feelings, but you did mess up, but at least you can do that. Don't take something that your girlfriend
Starting point is 00:05:34 spent weeks making and pass it off as your own, and then get mad at her when she's like, no, I made this for my mom. Right, right. It's clearly like it was on him for poor planning. Like of course, everybody forgets gifts or like slips up. That's not why he's a terrible son. But it definitely is like if you knew
Starting point is 00:05:54 that your mom liked cats, if she's coming, she wants a present, like all of those things could have lined up with him. I think the part that sat with me like the most uncomfortable was the fact that she used the language of like, I don't know if he's gonna either break up with me or yell at me. I just, if you're in a relationship where you're worried
Starting point is 00:06:14 if the other person is gonna yell at you, like nobody deserves to be yelled at, ever. The dynamic seems a little weird. Her also like, she seems to be someone who puts a lot of blame on herself because earlier she's like, I know the nice thing would have been to let him take it and do this, I'm like, I don't know if that's the nice thing, like I don't think that's nice to do,
Starting point is 00:06:34 it's just, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say, I feel bad for the girl in whatever she's gone through or whatever situation that she would feel guilty in any way through all of this or like she's at fault in any way. Like she made her mother an insanely nice gift and it seems like she also like really cares
Starting point is 00:06:52 about this guy's mom and respects her. And like she wasn't being mean at all by taking the gift back. Like I don't know, I just, the fact that she feels guilty or like she might be in the wrong, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, it's almost like if she were to do that, it could certainly be in some way an act of kindness, but you don't need to force that sacrifice
Starting point is 00:07:16 or feel bad for not following through on it. Like that is, yeah, that's not her responsibility. She doesn't need to feel bad about what she did. This is on him. Side note, she spent like two paragraphs giving us exposition on how she and her mom loved nature, only to lead into her talking about a gift that is a Siamese cat bird.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I just had two. Completely unrelated. I was like, well, there's cats in nature. I believe you. No, I love it, I love it. Hey, I know you really love cats. I know you're a huge fan of cats. Here's the matrix on Google.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah, I love too that she was like, nobody died, but it was an urn. It was an urn. Like, okay. Right. My mom really loves dead cats, so I got her a Siamese cat urn. I feel so bad for the boyfriend's mom.
Starting point is 00:08:06 She just wants a gift, man. She just wants to be thought of. And she thought she had that false hope for a moment of like, oh my gosh, you made me something so cool. She's saying, oh, she probably thought that I made it for her and that meant something to her, but what I think could have been really thoughtful is if the boyfriend weeks before, or months before,
Starting point is 00:08:23 went in and said, hey, you make such great stuff, can we make one for my mom? Yeah, you know, that would've been great. That's a joint gift. Right. Yeah, imagine being a mom. He didn't think about it. And like years of just getting crappy presents
Starting point is 00:08:35 from your son and then finally you're like, oh my God, here's this thing that is so nice and so thoughtful and then it turns out he just didn't, I wasn't actually for you and he didn't get you anything. It's tough, it's super tough. And then on top of that, relaying some sort of punishment onto his girlfriend being like, I don't think you should come to dinner.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Yeah, you don't come to dinner. I'm like, the fuck, dude? Feed her. Comments, I don't really have advice to give but I want you to know that I think your actions were quite reasonable. Your boyfriend should not have taken the gift that you'd made specifically for your mother.
Starting point is 00:09:09 It sucks that his mother was hurt, but I think if you'd let him get away with it, it would set a bad precedent. Good for you for standing up for yourself. If he decides to break up with you over this, it's due to his own flaws and immaturity. He could have asked you to make something for his mother or found something that she'd like, and he didn't.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Don't apologize for your actions. If anything, he owes you a massive apology for trying to steal your mother's present and making you look like the bad guy to his mother. That's true. Yeah, yeah. Someone else said, to be honest, I'd dump him for giving away something that you'd made for your mom without consulting you
Starting point is 00:09:38 and blaming you for the fallout it created. He could have asked you to make one for her. You're not a jerk, he is. Lastly, someone said, you did nothing wrong. You made something that you spent a lot of time and love on for your mother. And if he doesn't understand or respect that, then that's on him.
Starting point is 00:09:51 While that sucks for his mom, that isn't your problem. You seem like a compassionate person, which is why you feel bad. But I think your boyfriend was expecting to use that in his favor, which isn't okay. Definitely. That comment actually pointed out, you're right, like like the sense of selfishness of being like, I need to give my mom this present,
Starting point is 00:10:09 but completely disregarding what her mom would get. Then what is she supposed to do? And then there's the added layer of like, you do that, okay, you do that, which is shitty to do, but now that you've been caught, now that your girlfriend handled the situation, you're gonna try to make her feel like the bad guy. You need to, at least at that point, be like,
Starting point is 00:10:28 I, you gotta admit that you messed up. Gotta take the L. Which, you know, maybe if we backed up to the beginning, and this was like a, he confided in her, right? Like the day of maybe him being like, shit, I totally forgot a present. Is there anything you think that we could do or come up with?
Starting point is 00:10:46 And she is obviously such a kind person. I bet that she would be like, let me see what we could scramble together. Like let her in on this plan and work as a team. But he truly seems like he did not think about his mom's birthday slash Christmas until it was the moment of. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:04 What an awesome opportunity for the son though, that in the afternoon, be like, hey, I'm sorry, I was a dumb ass, but I saw how much you liked this thing and I feel really bad, it's gonna be late, but I asked my girlfriend if we could make something similar together for you. Yeah. That's the good ending to this Christmas movie.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Right, yeah, yeah. But unfortunately. Yeah. Update. Let's find out. Let's find out. Sorry. We've met this person in a Christmas movie before.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Yeah, definitely. I wanna thank everyone for all the help. A few people advised that I should have just let his mom have the gift. This is not something I was comfortable doing. I don't make art to sell. I make art to give to people who I love very much. So each piece has a lot of love in it.
Starting point is 00:11:54 My now ex-boyfriend showed up around 4 p.m. and wanted to talk at me. He just told me he was disappointed and that he had taken a lot of sweet talking to make his mother understand what happened. He told her I mixed up the packages, but that I had one for her that I just needed to get. I told him I didn't have anything for her and that I was not going to be helping him out. He could go buy one for her and pass it off as handmade, but I was not covering for him. I told him I felt that his behavior
Starting point is 00:12:21 was cruel to me, the effort I put into my art, and my mom, his mom, just everyone. He told me that he expected better. He would not apologize. He just kept getting angrier and angrier. He ended up grabbing a piece I made earlier this year. I was really proud of it. It was a mermaid on a rock. He said he would give this to her
Starting point is 00:12:37 and that I could find a new boyfriend. I told him if he left with it, I would call the police. We weren't screaming, but we were both really angry. He slammed it back down on my table. He told me that he never wanted to see me again and I should call him when I grew the fuck up. I told him we were over, that he was no longer my boyfriend and I wanted nothing to do with him.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I said he could take the clay back if he wanted, but I had already returned his Xbox to the store. He told me to keep the fucking clay and he wouldn't have apologized if he knew I wasn't giving him the present. He called me a liar and said I had ruined his holiday. According to the dribble coming out of his mouth, his mom was really hurt and had left town early. He thought giving her a piece and shifting the blame to me forgetting would make it better. I told him to just leave. So now I am single with a lot of clay and
Starting point is 00:13:22 a lightly cracked mermaid statue. I am not sure how to feel about this, but Dobby is free. Insane reference there. Wow, so he really was like, he was locked in. How many Reddit stories do we read where it's like a guy is just acting like a toddler, throwing up the biggest tantrum and then being like, let me know when you wanna grow up. Yeah. Like that's absurd.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Literally exactly what I was gonna say, to tell her to grow up when he is being a baby. Yeah. No, there's a lot of, I mean, look, by this point on Reddit stories, we've seen everything, like there's proof that anyone can be a huge asshole, but the amount of boyfriends and husbands who treat their partner like, so horribly.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I'm blown away, the entitlement is kind of blowing my mind. It's pathetic. It's really upsetting because the way that this, the OP describes it in the beginning isn't even all that angry. She really confides in Reddit asking if she's in the wrong. He definitely is upset that he doesn't have full control over her now.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Like that's what it seems like he was upset about. And now that he doesn't, he was just trying to guilt her throughout all of this. And then kept failing and he got really mad. Ed probably was thinking that by threatening breaking up with her, that she'd be like, no, no, no, no, no, but then she stood her ground. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And I think he's now gonna be like regretting it. But that's what's so scary, right? Is when women do kind of have this stance of like, no, I am right or I am following through with what I say. These men get so angry and are then like, well, then I'm taking this or I'm doing this. In an effort to just get more aggressive, continue to place these meaningless threats that are just like,
Starting point is 00:15:18 I don't know if that's actually who he is as a person. Again, what you offered I think would have been such a great resolve to just lean in with the vulnerability of like, hey, I messed up. But it's clear that zero part of him can actually admit that he did anything wrong. I think it's really important in a relationship to recognize like, oh, I'm feeling really guilty. And then to kind of, when you're having those moments
Starting point is 00:15:43 being like, what is my partner's goal? Is it just to make me feel guilty or it's a good thing in your own self if you're if you're Saying something or doing something to your partner and going what is my end goal here? Am I just trying to make them feel bad? Because if that's it that takes some that's that's a serious thing to acknowledge Both in other people or yourself because it's like if you're getting to that place That's that is nothing to acknowledge, both in other people or yourself, because it's like, if you're getting to that place, that is nothing but pure manipulation at that point. I read something a while ago that said,
Starting point is 00:16:11 when you're fighting with your partner, when you're arguing, you shouldn't fight like you hate them, you should fight like you love them. That way, in your dialogue, yes, of course, you can still be upset and share your feelings and put it out there, but you're doing it in a way that almost protects them, and you're like, I don't want to upset you,
Starting point is 00:16:32 but I just am letting you in on what I'm feeling. And that way, it shifts the words, it makes things come out a lot differently, and then people are susceptible to what you're saying. Nobody wants to listen to you if you're just insulting them or of course if you're yelling at them. Yeah, well in the case for her and I mean, we have this one story, but in the case of so many people,
Starting point is 00:16:55 they're not in a relationship. They have to wedge themselves or fit into this other person's life, right? And they're controlling you because it's like, no, I get to live my life and you have to change everything for me and accommodate me. And that's not a relationship.
Starting point is 00:17:09 That's not how it should be. Well, I'm glad they broke up. Yeah. And it's been almost 10 years since that story, so. Any more updates? No more updates. A 2025 update to come. 2024 update.
Starting point is 00:17:24 He sucks. He sucks, she's still doing pottery. I 2025 update to come. 2024 update. He sucks. He sucks, she's still doing pottery. I made some great earns. Okay. Moving on to our next story. This one is more recent. This came from this past month. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Am I the asshole for telling my sister she's not allowed to bring her homemade food to Thanksgiving because her cooking is ruining the meal? What? Oh. Oh. Oh, devastating. Ooh. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Mac and cheese is not that hard. Oh, God. It's hard to like make something that's bad. Like I've had a lot of underwhelming holiday foods, but I've not had bad. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, with Thanksgiving though, I think there are certain dishes
Starting point is 00:18:11 that people are so excited about that if you do let them down, I think you do get into bad territory. Like if the mashed potatoes aren't creamy, I'm upset. But I'll get over it. Okay, here we go. Every year, our family does a big Thanksgiving dinner, and we all typically bring a dish or two.
Starting point is 00:18:28 My sister, who's a lovely person in every other way, insists on cooking something homemade every time. The issue? She's not a great cook. And I don't mean just not great. I mean she has somehow managed to turn classic dishes into borderline inedible creations. For context, last Thanksgiving, she showed up with her special recipe,
Starting point is 00:18:48 stuffing that was over-seasoned with random spices like cinnamon and cardamom. It was dry and the flavors were confusing and totally off for stuffing. Only one person took a small bite and the rest went untouched. Another year, she brought a green bean casserole that had some kind of strange, chewy texture.
Starting point is 00:19:06 She later admitted she used coconut milk and almond flour to experiment. No one wanted seconds of that either. This year, I'm hosting Thanksgiving. Since I'm responsible for putting it all together, I wanted to keep the menu consistent so that people could actually enjoy a cohesive meal. I thought I'd avoid drama by asking her
Starting point is 00:19:23 to bring non-food items instead, like wine, soda, or even some flowers. I explained to her, very kindly, I thought, that I just wanted to make things easy and streamlined, and I'd handle the main dishes. But she didn't take it well. She got offended and told me I was being controlling and shutting her out of the family gathering.
Starting point is 00:19:41 She then accused me of making her feel inadequate and said that Thanksgiving is about everyone contributing, not me deciding what's acceptable. I told her that everyone appreciates her effort, but that she could contribute in other ways and still be part of it. She doubled down and said she's bringing her famous green bean casserole, whether I like it or not.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Now, my mom and a couple other family members have chimed in, saying I should just let her bring whatever she wants because it's Thanksgiving and it's the thought that counts. They're acting like I'm committing some huge offense by wanting the food to be enjoyable for everyone and not having random experimental dishes that no one will eat.
Starting point is 00:20:15 But I feel like I'm just trying to keep the meal enjoyable and frankly edible. I don't think it's wrong to want guests to actually enjoy the food, especially since I'm putting in a lot of effort to host am I really being unreasonable here am I the asshole? I blacked out after cardamom on stuffing Just a culinary crimes yeah walking crime So this lady is just a culinary crimes chef. A walking crime.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Dude, I have so many thoughts because I 100% respect wanting to have the food be good. And I feel like the sister tried to handle it in such a kind way, being like, hey, I'd love for you to maybe just bring some other things. I'll handle cooking. That's such a gentle way of doing it. But if she insists on bringing food,
Starting point is 00:21:04 it's like, I don't know how serious of an issue it is, because who knows whose family, it could be a bigger deal, but if that were me, I'd just make a green bean casserole as well, and then let people have whichever one they want, and just be like, look. To tell someone, don't cook, don't bring your food. I'm like, damn, I wouldn't be able to say that. I don't think so. I wouldn't, especially because I'm like, this is one of those situations. I'm like, damn, I wouldn't be able to say that. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I wouldn't, especially because I'm like, this is one of those situations where I'm like, is it really hurting anyone that it's just gonna sit there and nobody's gonna eat it? Exactly. Did we, sorry, again, I blacked out, so did we miss, does she react in any way when things get untouched at the table?
Starting point is 00:21:39 She does not say whether she reacts, because you'd think that you bring it a couple times and nobody's touching it that you'd know. You get the message, yeah. But I don't think so. In fact, she refers to her green bean casserole as she's bringing her famous green bean casserole. Her nobody green bean casserole.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Her coconut milk and almond flour green bean casserole. Her literally unknown casserole. Mystery casserole. That's so awesome. I. That's so awesome, David. You see, yeah, I don't think, I don't think I would really insist on managing that.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I think I would also just be like, if it makes you happy, you bring it, because it's not hurting anybody, it's just gonna sit there. I understand wanting to control the vibe and the hospitality in me is of course saying that I only want really delicious, and in her words, edible things on the table.
Starting point is 00:22:33 But I think if it makes somebody feel like they are contributing to the family and it is a much bigger deal to them, I think I would try to let that one go. It's really hard, because it's like, here's someone who's so excited to do something for people. Yeah! And it's heartbreaking that it's not good,
Starting point is 00:22:49 but it's like, to tell someone, hey, don't contribute is devastating. I know she's saying, oh, I'm asked her to bring wine and soda and stuff, but I'm like, she wants to make something and feel special. It's tough. Yeah, if you try and let her off gentle and be like, hey, I'm wanting to handle the food, please be happy if you brought something else,
Starting point is 00:23:10 and she insists on bringing something, yeah, let her cook and bring something. Let her cook. I know I would just let her cook. Yeah, and it's like, I think it's kind of sweet too that she sucks. She sucks at cooking, but she's still trying. So I'm kinda like, okay, girly, like I am loving that for you.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I just would love it if your skills improved. I, yeah, I, it's so funny to me because like, I'm just a very different type of cook. If I ever am cooking for like a party or like a gathering, I am finding a recipe online that has five stars and I just follow the recipe. Follow it. Because I'm like, all I'm trying to do is make something
Starting point is 00:23:54 that I know a lot of people are gonna like. Totally. I'm all for experimenting, but I'm like, that's for me. Like if I'm gonna experiment, only I'm gonna eat it. Bring it to smosh. I'm not trying to experiment or bring it here and punish people. But to experiment to that degree,
Starting point is 00:24:10 when you're bringing it for other people, is just bold. It's bold unless you are a chef. Like, unless you know the theories and stuff, but adding cinnamon and cardamom to stuffing. Yeah. I'm like the opposite of this person. I like, I get, I'm convinced that everything I make
Starting point is 00:24:28 is like really bad, even though I'm like good at cooking. Like that's kind of like what I do. That's quite literally your profession. Yeah, it's quite literally. Like that's what I do. And then like I make something and I'm like, ah, this isn't gonna be good. Like I don't know if I should give it to people.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Right, I feel like I'm conscious of that too. I make something and then I'll give it to somebody and stand there and be like, so you like it. Yeah, you're interested that you like it. So you're interested, so you're gonna call me? You're gonna eat it? I'm definitely the same way. I cooked a couple things for Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:24:55 a couple years ago and I made mac and cheese and I found a recipe online. I was like, I need to find the best recipe that I know is gonna be good and even still, I was like, I hope this is good enough. But it was good. Right, right. Yeah, I feel like that's happened before at tables of friends giving and Thanksgiving and stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:15 But I just feel like at the end of the day, I just talk about it with my closer friends and I'm just like, yeah, that stuffing was disappointing, but we move on. I almost wonder if she wanted to be sly and get away with this, is asking for a dish, a Thanksgiving dish that's kind of like an optional side dish.
Starting point is 00:25:33 You know, Green Bean Casserole's almost there, you know? But something where it's like, you don't necessarily need to have it to feel like you got the complete meal. Like being like, oh, could you make a pie? Could you make a dessert? Like we're gonna have several desserts, but could you make another one? Could you make a dessert? Like, we're gonna have several desserts, but could you make another one?
Starting point is 00:25:46 Totally. I think it'd be funny if she asked her to make it with her. Be like, hey, I'd love to see how you make this and make it with you. And then like, maybe only by the right ingredients. Maybe like, I don't know. She like turns around and you're like, spicy. I wanna learn how you make it.
Starting point is 00:26:01 That's what I would wanna do. I'd wanna see how it's done. That's some crazy experimentation. To have coconut milk and almond flour in the pantry. You're just asking people. Very specific ingredients. The verdict was asshole. They think she's an asshole for saying,
Starting point is 00:26:14 hey, don't bring stuff. That's fair. Yeah, I get that. The comments we have here. Someone's asking for info. How does your sister react when no one eats her food? If she reacts poorly, tries to push people to try to have seconds,
Starting point is 00:26:26 and is generally a sour puss about it, then I think suggesting that she take control of wine slash crisps slash non-baked goods is sensible. But if she doesn't comment or make a big deal, then it doesn't really sound like her cooking badly does any harm. No one eats it, she feels like she's contributed, and all it takes is throwing away the food at the end.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Minimal hassle for a peaceful holiday that everyone enjoys. Someone else said, rather than throw it away, it would be better to cover the dish and send it home with her. At least it won't be wasted, as she seems to like it. She might also actually realize that nobody else likes it. Someone else said, let her do it. Her bad cooking is a tradition. Just make another vegetable that people will eat.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Someone lastly said, a soft, you're the asshole. Just let her bring what she wants. It's not hurting you. You don't have to eat it. It might even be fun to pretend it's the best thing ever and throw some away when she isn't looking to make her feel good. It could be part of the traditional holiday experience.
Starting point is 00:27:19 OP responded to that saying, I get that and maybe I'm overthinking it. It just feels like a small battle I'd rather not have every year, especially when I'm hosting and trying to make sure everyone genuinely enjoys the meal. I mean, I can definitely go with the smile and nod approach for the sake of family peace,
Starting point is 00:27:34 but it does feel a little exhausting to pretend every time. I guess I just don't want to encourage her thinking that everyone actually loves it, especially when it's clearly not working. But you're right, it's just food, and maybe I should focus more on making her feel included than on the menu being perfect. I'll try to keep this in mind and relax about it.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Something I'm curious about too is if she's asking her not to cook, but a bunch of people are doing the thing where a bunch of people cook and contribute, that would make her feel really bad. If like, cause you were kind of saying like, oh, I'm gonna handle all the cooking. That's what it, in the original,
Starting point is 00:28:06 because it sounded like that's what she was saying, like I'm gonna handle the food. Like, and in that case, if that's what you wanna do, like still, if she wants to cook something, bring it. Like, but if you're committing to being like, hey, I'm gonna cook everything, like I'd prefer to handle it all. Like, there might be a little bit more
Starting point is 00:28:23 of a defense for that, but. Yeah. I think I feel pretty happy about the way that that went down. I like it being a soft, you're the asshole. It's a silly situation. Exactly. I totally, totally understand her kind of managing, wanting to take control of the whole event. If she's hosting, I can understand it, kind of feeling like a reflection on her.
Starting point is 00:28:46 She wants to keep everybody happy. I think she's just trying to consider everybody's feelings. But I think by posting and receiving this feedback, it feels like she was a little bit at ease now and is like, you're right, I should relax. She's willing to accept that and that's good enough for me. Yeah. I wanna try it.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Cause what if, what if it's like groundbreaking? The food? The green bean casserole. What if it's like a generational, like she's a generational talent when it comes to cooking and OP just has, just is. Yeah, what if OP and all of, everyone at this party has terrible taste.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Terrible taste. Yeah. And she's actually the genius who's making delicious stuff. That's what I'm saying. People ridiculed Einstein. You're right, people murdered Jesus. Yeah. I think she is, she could be Christ.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Oh my God. You guys, yeah. What a good point. We all have to eat this casserole. Update. No way, we get an upsy? We're gonna know. What do we think's gonna happen? They all eat the casserole and die. Do you think the green bean casserole update no way we get enough we're gonna know what do we think is gonna happen?
Starting point is 00:29:45 They all eat the casserole and die do you think the green bean casserole is poison? I think she brings the casserole and everyone loves it and it's the biggest and opi's jealous Oh, he's jealous and the sisters like oh Just I want okay. I bet the opposite I bet the opposite the sisters gonna cry and she's gonna run out and it's gonna be a terrible holiday. Okay, tell us. Okay. All right, well, things have escalated fast.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Damn it. Thanks to everyone who offered advice, I tried to compromise, but it's already turning into a whole thing and Thanksgiving is still a few weeks away. After our last conversation, my sister was being pretty cagey about what she planned to make.
Starting point is 00:30:24 So I reached out to my mom, hoping she could help smooth things over. Instead, she got defensive, saying I'm overthinking and that it's just one dish. I told her I wasn't sure it was just one dish anymore, especially after hearing about my sister's grocery haul, including canned oysters and edible glitter. Fun!
Starting point is 00:30:42 This is so awesome. Fun! Fun, edible glitter. Oh, glitter oysters. I've always said the turkey needs to be prettier. Yeah. Then my mom let slip that my sister has been hard at work on some creative menu she's planning as her Thanksgiving surprise.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Apparently she's been telling the family group chat, which I wasn't included in by the way, that I'm being controlling and that she wants to expand everyone's palette with something truly unique. To top it off, my cousin sent me a screenshot from the group chat where my sister said she's bringing not one, but three dishes
Starting point is 00:31:13 to Thanksgiving now. She's calling them her Thanksgiving trio experience, complete with their own place settings and little menu cards she's designing. I'm officially panicking because I have no idea what she's planning to serve. And from what I've heard, it's not remotely traditional. At this point, half the family. I'm officially panicking because I have no idea what she's planning to serve, and from what I've heard, it's not remotely traditional.
Starting point is 00:31:27 At this point, half the family thinks I'm overreacting, while the other half is texting me with things like, is she really bringing glittered sweet potatoes? I feel stuck. If I try to control it anymore, I'm the bad guy. But if I don't, Thanksgiving might turn into a tasting event for my sister's avant-garde cooking. So yeah, Thanksgiving is weeks away
Starting point is 00:31:45 and it's already becoming a family spectacle. I don't know whether to brace myself or just preemptively order pizza. Holy shit. This is in- Fuck yeah, dude. It's giving second update. This is so amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:56 One, three weeks out already testing your menu with oysters and glitter. And like this level of pettiness, but like harmless pettiness, almost in the other this level of pettiness, but like harmless pettiness, almost any other kind pettiness, like being able to like cook for people. Yeah. It's so awesome. But excluding the sister from the group chat
Starting point is 00:32:14 is a little nasty. Oh yeah. Cause she's hosting, so that's a little dirty, I feel like. Well, is this a group chat that the sister made and then left her out of? We don't know. Or is this a family group chat that has existed made and then left her out of it? Oh, no a family group chat that has existed and everyone has left her out of it What if this is all a big family prank on OP that they just continue to do?
Starting point is 00:32:32 I really hope it is because that was literally my nightmare. We're recording this a little bit before Thanksgiving So this has not happened yet. We'll probably have updates by the time this airs. We might comment down below about it. Please, the OP is somewhere not sleeping. I have to know. I love oysters. I do not think they belong in Thanksgiving dinner. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Not just oysters, canned oysters. I mean, what she is putting together is diabolical and I love it. Yes. Trekk is going to enjoy this. I really wanna see the menu cards too. I hope that the next update has little images cause that I can get behind.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Oh. I am excited. It's so harmless. Like she isn't doing anything mean to anyone. Like she's just making food that can just be put away. Like it's not like she's blowing up Thanksgiving. Like this is so funny. But she's like, again, I understand OP though too
Starting point is 00:33:28 because she's kind of like overstepping where OP is like excited to host. I think when you're making a whole menu and you're bringing a whole bunch of things, you're making a tasting event, you are kind of taking over someone else's hosting event. But this is a family thing. Families operate very differently, like each family,
Starting point is 00:33:45 and so it's kind of more of a family gathering. Yes, it's at her place, but it seems like, from what they've described, it's kind of like a big get together where everyone contributes. It feels like also that this subject for us feels a little bit smaller, but I'm sure it's also, it sounds like it's taking over OP's life a lot more
Starting point is 00:34:02 if she's getting messages about it from all of her family members, there's this elusive group chat that she doesn't know or isn't a part of that she's hearing about. So I can see in her head that it might feel like this overwhelming, very daunting thing that's approaching. Oof.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I might be playing devil's advocate too much, but this is one of those things where I'd love to hear someone else's perspective of the story. Like how they paint the OP, like when they talk about OP. I wanna hear from the dad. Yeah, I wanna hear from the dad. I wanna hear from everyone. I want it live stream.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Every single Red Story we read with Family Dynamics, I always wish that I could go and just meet this whole family and hear the whole story because I'm sure my opinion would shift probably 90% of the time. Because OP is always going to paint themselves to be in the right. It's kind of hard not to.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Even if they have the best of intentions because when you're in the wrong, you often have blinders up or you're kind of unaware of what you're doing that's wrong. Totally, totally. We're only in on this situation based on the way that OP skews it. Yeah. With their own biases.
Starting point is 00:35:08 This is hilarious though. Awesome. It is really funny. Littered sweet potatoes. I love the name too of like, this is my Thanksgiving experience trio. Yeah. And this is my famous green bean casserole.
Starting point is 00:35:20 So good. I am literally going to name all of my dishes this Thanksgiving. Next story. This is a Today I Fuck fucked up. It's from seven years ago Today I fucked up by catching on fire at a New Year's Eve party Classic okay classic move a group of five of us arrived at a small party 10 to 15 people or so around 930 p.m We seemed to be the last people arriving and everyone was happy to see each other After the hellos our group decided was happy to see each other.
Starting point is 00:35:45 After the hellos, our group decided to go to the kitchen to get some drinks. Now this kitchen was pretty narrow and there were about 10 of us standing in there waiting to get our drinks. As I stood in my spot right in front of the gas stove, one of the girls complimented my brand new button up flannel shirt and it seemed like
Starting point is 00:35:59 it's going to be a great night. Note, I'm completely sober at this point. Now apparently someone was making tea on the front burner. I did not realize that someone was making tea on the aforementioned front burner. It all happened so fast. I feel heat on my back as someone yells, you're on fire. I pause for a couple seconds as my fire safety knowledge
Starting point is 00:36:18 is completely lost in the moment. I cannot take off my shirt as it's a button up and start rolling on the floor after 15 people shouted at me to do so. After rolling on the hardwood floor for 10 seconds to no avail, someone mentions that there is snow outside. Thanks, Ohio.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Luckily, the back door was right there so I was able to go outside and roll in the snow. The fire was extinguished shortly after. I was probably on fire. five. You've always wanted to be part of something bigger than yourself. You live for experience and lead by example. You want the most out of life and realize what you're looking for is already in you. This is for you. The Canadian Armed Forces. A message from the Government of Canada.
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Starting point is 00:38:18 to be automatically sent to your matches. Then sit back and let your matches start the chat. Download Bumble and try it for yourself for a good 20 seconds I come back inside to a sea of horrified faces and I'm convinced the damage was not too bad I was wrong shortly after my roommates drove me to the hospital and we watched the midnight ball drop Together with me laying down on my belly in the ER a day later I'm still in the hospital with my second degree burns. No third.
Starting point is 00:38:47 All over my back and I should be released tomorrow. Ooh. Happy New Year. That's gotta suck. God, the intro of that story just reads so funny. Like, I went to a New Year's party, I was so pumped and everything was so great as I stood in front of the gas stove.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Right, somebody commented my new button-up flannel. Yeah. I like to think that he tossed something into a trash can, perfectly nailed it, and someone's like, oh, you're on fire, and he's like, thanks. Right, right. The idea, too, of like picturing 15 people
Starting point is 00:39:23 yelling at you to roll on the ground is so funny too. Everyone's like, roll! Roll the ground! Roll! Roll! I also like that someone complimented his brand new flannel shirt right before it came out. His button-up flannel.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Hey, I like your button-up flannel shirt. Like, what other kind of flannel shirts are there? Right. Right. My non-button-up flannel shirt. Oh, so OP included photos that we're not gonna show because they're apparently pretty graphic. He got burned pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Is the flannel okay? No. I reckon no. Poor dude. He was on fire for 20 seconds. We're getting reactions from our producers over there. It must be gnarly. I don't wanna see it.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I want the flannel. I wanna see. Flannel. All right, you're gonna get our reactions. Live reaction. Oh no! Oh no! Oh!
Starting point is 00:40:08 Oh! Oh! Oh no! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 00:40:15 Oh! Oh, that's gotta suck so bad. Oh, that sucks really bad. But no photos of the flannel. So he kinda like can't wear a shirt for weeks. That's really sad. That's really unlucky. It's really scary.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Comments, rest in peace, brand new flannel, button up shirt. So what else? The question we should be asking is, what kind of bastard makes tea on New Year's Eve at 930 PM? Yeah, wait a minute, when you're having a party. Lastly, someone said, as someone who has had third degree burns, you have my sympathy, friend. Burns are absolutely not a fun experience, and someone said, as someone who has had third degree burns, you have my sympathy, friend. Burns are absolutely not a fun experience
Starting point is 00:40:47 and I feel sorry for anyone who has the misfortune of experiencing them. But hey, on the upside, at least now you have a bitchin' story and can laugh about it with your friends in the future. Remember, look hot as you can for New Year's Eve tonight, lads. Johnny, maybe try not to be as hot as you were last year, though, yeah?
Starting point is 00:41:02 Hey, nice. Good joke. That is gonna be a funny story. Yeah, that guy's gonna tell that last year though, yeah? Hey, nice. Nice. Ha ha ha, good joke. That is gonna be a funny story. Yeah, that guy's gonna tell that every year. Oh yeah. Like you remember that New Year's Eve seven years ago? That New Year's was fire. This New Year's Eve, he is going to tell that story.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Dude. Yes. Seventh year in a row, he's telling that story. Oh man. Dude, showing up to a New Year's party late, going to the kitchen to get a drink, and immediately getting lit on fire. That sucks. That's really sad.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Unfortunate. Well. Thanks, Ohio. Thanks, Ohio. Only in Ohio. It snows elsewhere. Only in Ohio. That one's for the kids.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Oh, that's a reference? That one's for the Gen Zers out there, maybe even the Gen Alphas out there. Only in Ohio. We're the same age and I don't know that. That's because you're not on the internet like I am. I think we exist in separate corners. That was literally bullying.
Starting point is 00:41:57 No, it's not bullying. I'm jealous of you, that you don't know what that means. Do you know what only in Ohio is? Yeah. No, you don't. I know, I know, Ohio's a I know the whole Ohio's a meme. Yeah, Ohio's a meme. Cause all the worst shit happens in Ohio.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I only know the Dark Souls Ohio meme. Yeah. Or the Elden Ring Ohio meme. But Ohio's just like, it's the freaking hellscape. Ohio. It's just like, yeah, it's like a picture of like a radioactive just like wasteland. It's like only in Ohio.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I have seen that. Yeah, you get it. Yeah, I of like a radioactive, just like wasteland, it's like only in Ohio. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I have seen that. Yeah, you get it. Yeah, I got it. Sorry, man. I get it. I actually knew it the whole time. I wasn't trying to be exclusionary. Now I feel like an asshole.
Starting point is 00:42:32 You guys have a group chat without me? Yeah. Yeah. That would just be your messages back and forth, the two of you. Our next story is another Am I the Asshole. Am I the asshole for giving my mother-in-law a fake copy of my house key and exposing her during Christmas dinner?
Starting point is 00:42:49 Let's fucking go. Let's go, that's awesome. Holy shit. Exposing her how? Tell us. I wanna preface this by saying that I, a 34 year old woman, married my husband, who's 37, a year ago.
Starting point is 00:43:04 His mom is Snoopy and annoying as fuck. His mom is Snoopy? Bro. Whoa! For Christmas! God. She can't help it, that's just how she is, as my dear in-laws say. My husband and I purchased a new house recently.
Starting point is 00:43:18 My mother-in-law kept pushing to get an emergency key. She promised that she would only use it in an emergency, but given the fact that she had an emergency key to our old apartment and walked in on us being intimate twice... Aah! ...my husband didn't think it was a big deal. I just couldn't trust her. I just sent her a fake key after she kept pushing,
Starting point is 00:43:35 and she had a smug look on her face after I hand-delivered it to her. Days passed, and during Christmas dinner, my mother-in-law angrily called me out on the fact that I gave her a fake copy of the house key. She shamed me for doing this in front of everyone. But in my defense I asked her how she found out and said she found out days ago when she came over at 4 p.m. while my husband and I were out.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I reminded her, didn't you promise you wouldn't use it unless there was an emergency? So you tried to get in when there wasn't an emergency and you broke the promise you made to us. She looked red in the face. The other family started staring and some even laughed at her for the face she made. She suddenly got up from her seat and rushed into the kitchen where she had a huge meltdown. So loud, the next door neighbors must have heard.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Literally, I've never heard a 60-year-old woman throw a tantrum like that. Needless to say, dinner was awkward and my husband and his sister were giving me looks. My husband went off on me in the car and said I lied, manipulated, humiliated and exposed his mom and said he wouldn't have let me get away with it had he known. We had an argument and he is demanding I apologize to his mom for my childish behavior and for ruining Christmas dinner for the whole family."
Starting point is 00:44:40 Uh-uh. What? Uh-uh. Okay. Okay. No, man. No. That's absurd. I'm just such a private person I would not if someone showed up unannounced and opened my front door I'm like you lose your privilege. No, that is so so weird. That just that just upsets me so much I feel like because it's just so overbearing it's so so protective. This couple is in their 30s.
Starting point is 00:45:05 They have a whole nother life. There's no reason for you to have an emergency key. And they be fuckin' and she shows up whenever they be fuckin'. Only in Ohio, I guess. In Ohio. If that happened once, do you know how, like, if I'm him, I'd be like, we're putting up, like,
Starting point is 00:45:24 planks of wood over the front door. Right! Dude, I love the delusion to be like at a family dinner being like, hey, guess what my daughter-in-law did? She gave me a fake key so I couldn't break into her house while she's gone. Can you imagine? Like, what?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah. No, she sucks. And then she threw a huge tantrum. But somehow everybody's on their side? Well, just the son is defending her. Okay. It doesn't sound necessarily like everyone, we don't hear about everyone else.
Starting point is 00:45:50 The son is defending her. Which is such a classic case of what we also hear on Reddit stories is like the husband or the boyfriend then like blowing up at his partner for being like against his family. And it's like, no dude, like yes, you still respect your family, blowing up at his partner for being against his family. And it's like, no, dude, yes, you still respect your family,
Starting point is 00:46:10 but you have now a different partner. This is now your family that you are supposed to prioritize. Don't you care about your own privacy too? Right. I'm like, yeah, you care about your wife, you care about her privacy. Aren't you all so pissed this is happening?
Starting point is 00:46:25 He's kind of like, he says like, oh, it's not that big of a deal. It's like, she walked in on you guys twice? Twice. No. That sucks. And it's just like trying to enter your house at will. What is she doing in there? Is she just going to look around and hang out?
Starting point is 00:46:39 Like, what? There's been a lot of stories of parents who want to continuously barge in without even an invitation. Right. Crazy. And it reads so clearly as like this insecurity, right? They don't wanna let go of their children.
Starting point is 00:46:55 They still wanna have some sense of control and parenthood. And that's a very real thing. Sure. That's definitely something that is a form of grief for parents, but it is frankly inappropriate to exercise it by asking, nay demanding, for a key to your child's home with their partner. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:18 The verdict was not the asshole. Comments, what was possibly the logic to blame you for it? OP says, he blamed me one time for not locking the bedroom door, which is something we never do, and the second time for when she walked in on us making out in the living room. He said intimate stuff should happen in the bedroom
Starting point is 00:47:34 just to be extra careful about people walking in, AKA his mom, and saw no issue with her walking around in the apartment like she lived there. Uh-uh. One time for not locking the bedroom door? No. So not only is she walking into the apartment like she lived there. Uh-uh. One time for not locking the bedroom door. No. So not only is she walking into the apartment, she's like walking into the bedroom.
Starting point is 00:47:50 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's so crazy. I literally hate that. He straight up was like, we can't make out on the couch. We gotta take it all to the bedroom, get out of here. If I'm her, I'm setting up home alone traps around the place and then so. Hold on, we gotta lock the bedroom door.
Starting point is 00:48:04 What if my mom walks in? Oh my God, are we in high school? No, if I'm her, she'll walk in and have a paint can to the face. Literally. That's how it's going, man. Yeah, you will not take away the couch. Someone else said, not the asshole.
Starting point is 00:48:19 You did expose his mom, and rightfully so. She needed to be exposed. Your husband is out of his mind for enabling and encouraging his mom's demented behavior. Mother-in-law and husband are major assholes. Lastly, someone said, OP, not the asshole at all. The fact that you're dealing with this is utter BS. Your mother-in-law is so out of line
Starting point is 00:48:35 for invading your privacy, calling you out in front of everyone, throwing a tantrum. Holy smokes. There are so many red flags here. I really hope she doesn't cause your marriage to suffer. I feel like that's where you're headed. OP said, Unfortunately my husband always thinks that his mom is doing nothing wrong and I'm the crazy overreactor.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Despite trying to explain to him, I feel like my voice is never her. That feels like that's something you gotta work out before you get married to that man. That really freaking sucks. Yeah, I don't think I would've married that man. Only in Ohio. Only in Ohio! That really, really sucks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Now the idea of being like, hold on, we actually need to lock our bedroom door in case my mom breaks into our apartment and just walks into the bedroom. Right. Like, what is she snooping for? I'm like, why are you going to the bedroom? What was she doing?
Starting point is 00:49:32 What, like, I... No, I don't like it. I don't like it at all. It's really unfortunate a lot of the times. Like, I have always been very jealous of people that get to live in the same city as their family. It has always seemed like a blessing. But when family can be a helicoptering like that,
Starting point is 00:49:55 it's really a suffering. He's 37 and she's helicoptering like that. It's really unfortunate. And the worst part is, is that he's in support of that. It's one thing to, again, be a unit and be like, yeah, we gotta take care of my family. Like, they're doing too much, you know, like, let's handle this together.
Starting point is 00:50:12 But he kind of being on their side and being okay with that. And I think he said, like, he yelled at her in the car, right, like afterward, he let her have it. Hate that language. Really, really don't like that. And really sad to hear that that's a part of their marriage. Oh, God. Well.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Re-evaluate. Yeah, seriously. All right, next up. Am I the asshole for not getting on a flight upon finding out that he put my kids in economy? Wait. I'm in economy. Wait. I'm so excited. Wait.
Starting point is 00:50:50 So my fiance has three kids from his former marriage, whilst I have two, from my former marriage as well. Wills. I quit my job to start focusing on getting my degree. He's become the breadwinner, if you will, although I still contribute with my savings. I also do 80% of childcare and chores. Long story short, he wanted me and my kids to attend Thanksgiving with his family
Starting point is 00:51:07 who are located across the country, and we were supposed to go yesterday ahead of time to get a rental place. He booked our tickets and everything, but later, before the flight, I found out that he, his kids, and myself were put in first class whilst my two kids, 14 and 10, were put in economy.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I was stunned. He acted like it was no big deal and told us it's just a few hours and the kids could just hang in there for a little while. I asked how he could think this was acceptable and he got mad and said, since he's the one paying for the tickets, then we go by his rules.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I immediately turned around and took the kids and made my way out of the airport. He started following us, screaming at me to go back, but I refused and told him that I no longer felt like spending Thanksgiving with his folks after this. My youngest cried because she never flew without me. He went with his kids, me and the kids are home. He has not stopped calling, trying to berate me,
Starting point is 00:51:57 and even had his mom text me that I needed to get over myself and stop teaching my kids to be spoiled and entitled. She said that the fact that I was willing to miss Thanksgiving with the family over something so trivial shows my real character and personality and mindset or lack thereof. I have not replied, but I feel horrible.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Am I the asshole? Should I have just let it slide and just went? In case I wasn't clear, me and the kids left our family slash hometown so we could go celebrate with his family in his hometown. My kids weren't too excited about leaving their grandparents for a week or so. Oh.
Starting point is 00:52:28 No, honey. God. No. I find myself so much on this show having to consciously close my mouth. Because so often I'm just sitting here like, Right. How, how, oh.
Starting point is 00:52:43 That's such a deliberate conscious decision. Totally. I kinda don't use this word, I try not to use this word, but I'm like, it comes across to me, that's abuse. That's treating these kids in such a different way. Oh yeah. That is psychologically, that's going to affect them,
Starting point is 00:53:04 and he knows that's gonna affect them. He's literally, you might as well tell those kids, hey, you're not as special. Like you're not worth as much. I mean, what a horrible thing. You're supposed to be all a family. You kinda have to all be a family. You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:53:19 It's so manipulative of the husband too cause he knows she's getting her degree, she's still contributing as best she can, but she's not currently the breadwinner. And it seems like he's, I don't know, he's using that to his advantage to punish people for no reason. I despise so much when relationships
Starting point is 00:53:39 are so obviously inequitable. Like that is a clear case of, you're right, It's vicious to do that to her kids, right? Like it would be one thing if he was like, all the kids, you know? Like we're gonna set some kind of standard for the children or something like that. But to do only that to her kids, and she said it immediately after,
Starting point is 00:54:02 how could you possibly think that that's acceptable? What's your reasoning? And I understand too that for a lot of people, you know, just because they're married, it's not like her kids are his kids, right? Like that might not be their dynamic, they're 10 and 14, but he loves her, and so him treating her kids that way
Starting point is 00:54:21 is actively disrespecting her as well. If I'm her, I'm going, oh, you don't love me. You don't care about me. Like, if you don't care about my kids, you don't care about me. I just think this is such a clear sign. And I know the Reddit advice is always like, divorce, but I'm like, this guy clearly.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Yeah, also, the fact that he just thought that she would be okay with that. You know, like, oh, you're gonna cut, just like, yeah, it's okay, just leave your kids back there. They can deal with it. Like, it's insanely, it's so disrespectful and so gross. And what a line to cross as well, to get your mother involved by being like,
Starting point is 00:54:58 hey, can you text my wife and tell her that her character sucks and that her kids are spoiled? Like, deal with it yourself. And he had not told her this until they were at the airport. Manipulative. And yeah, and she also said like her daughter had never flown separately from her on a flight.
Starting point is 00:55:18 So he was gonna do that and then be like, oh, it's no big deal. And they're old enough to get it. Exactly. If 10 and 14 they're like, yeah, he hates us. They're like, wow, yeah, it's no big deal. And they're old enough to get it. Exactly. If 10 and 14, they're like, yeah, he hates us. They're like, wow, yeah, that's an asshole move. And it's probably already difficult for these kids to understand this relationship,
Starting point is 00:55:35 which again, both of the parents have clearly separated. They are now on probably their second marriage. It could be further than that. It's already a difficult thing. And now it's just magnifying that separation and making it that much harder for them to accept this other parent that's entered into their life. Like he's making zero effort to close that gap.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Right. Verdict was not the asshole. I think it was great of her to stand up to him in that moment because that sends a signal to her kids like, hey, she's on their side. They saw that. She cares about them. That matters.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Comments, not the asshole. His kid's in first class, your kid's in economy. That's a bad sign for the future. Then his response is to berate you and future mother-in-law calling your kids spoiled and entitled. Even worse, it would not have ended there. I would be done with that relationship. Someone else said, no, you are right and not the asshole. Either all kids fly one way or no dice.
Starting point is 00:56:30 If you can afford first class for four, you can afford first class for six, or all fly economy if you don't want kids to feel entitled. He has clearly shown where your kids stand, especially over his kids. You may want to rethink marriage to an asshole like that. Lastly, someone said, not the asshole. Your fiance seems to be missing the point.
Starting point is 00:56:47 It's not that you expected your kids to be in first class, but that once everyone else was in first class, it was not okay to put them in economy. I would be very worried about how he treats your kids in comparison to his own from now on. My brother's widow is remarried to someone who makes a lot of money. I can assure you that he treats her kids
Starting point is 00:57:03 exactly as how he treats his own. The separation is the problem here. I fly economy, most people fly economy. Economy's fine. If he wanted to treat himself and her to be like, hey, let's ride first class, all the kids can go to economy. That's fine, but don't separate the children.
Starting point is 00:57:20 That's also like, that's gonna create a crazy dynamic for those siblings. Right. Like the three who get first class, that's gonna create a crazy dynamic for those siblings. Right. Like the three who get first class, they're gonna know too. And that's gonna make them fucked up. It's just such an obvious difference that it's almost like, it's so ridiculous
Starting point is 00:57:36 to think that people wouldn't. It's cartoonishly evil. Right. To go on and like actually book those tickets and do that on purpose is really, I can't get into the head space. Like you really think a 10 and 14 year old kid isn't gonna realize, or your wife?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Yeah, he's also saying like his response was, oh well they'll just hang in there, it's fine. I'm like, then why didn't you all fly economy? You all hang in there. Save so much money if it's not that big of a deal, man. I don't understand how anybody could see this, read this situation and be like, well, you know, he's got a point.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Like that it is, it's just, it's evil. Yeah. It's just like he is, he just obviously does not care about these children and does not care that anyone knows it. Right. Like it could be that that's just not computing for him. Like he's not actually feeling that care
Starting point is 00:58:23 and compassion for these kids and thinks it's just like a little thing, which again, if he is used to booking these first class tickets, it could be a sense of like privilege, right? This lens that's over him that he's maybe not quite calculating, but then the wife calls it out, right?
Starting point is 00:58:42 Like that's your moment to recognize like, oh, I've done something wrong. Again, like we were referring to with the first story, this is your moment to be like, oh, I fucked up. It's hard to go from blatantly making a choice like that to being like, you're right, my behavior is bad. Yeah. This is, I think this feels conscious to me.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Right, right. Like we don't wanna lend that to him because of the behaviors that follow. This is like, he really thought this out. Update, what do we think? So they're engaged, they're engaged. They're engaged, okay. It's their fiance.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Which means she can very easily, she can a lot more easily get out of this. Break it off. Doesn't have to sign a paper. I think this is a break it off moment. I think so. Again, not because of the initial situation, but what followed after.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Is reaction as well. All of that was inappropriate. I'm currently getting myself and the kids packed so that we can stay with my mother. This has happened before in other instances, but I kept thinking to myself, this is not right, but I have invested too much time and effort in this relationship, so maybe this shouldn't get in the way.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And I try to minimize most situations where I find my kids being put last. Not only that, but he tried to give me an ultimatum regarding getting my degree and what was my response. This isn't right, but kept making light of it and letting go. Now he's probably bad mouthing me to the whole family, and so is his mom, bless her effing heart.
Starting point is 01:00:05 The kids and I are leaving. He'll be coming back to an empty home except he'll find some company with the engagement ring that I took off and left on the nightstand. Distance and some reevaluation is needed right now. Thank you to all who reached out with helpful input and perspectives. You're right, my kids come first
Starting point is 01:00:21 and that's what I keep trying to do and I hope I won't ever fail. Thank you so much for the support. Yay! That's freaking me out. Can't be surprised that there was a pattern. Right. And she's like, oh wait, this happens a lot.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Yes, it's disappointing to, like we've said, continue to revisit these stories where these women are unable to see it for themselves, but it is wonderful that, at least in the pattern that we've seen today, they are at least able to listen to their gut and be like, hold on, in her words, this isn't right, and be able to remove themselves from that situation.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Yeah. Oh, well I'm so glad she got out of that, man. Yeah. Yeah, bless her effing heart. Bless her effing heart. Our last story. No. No. No, no, you're a Grinch. But one more for a holiday gift after this.
Starting point is 01:01:12 One more for holiday gift. Am I the asshole for telling my brother he cannot stay with me over Christmas if he brings his prosthetic leg? if he brings his prosthetic leg. Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha!
Starting point is 01:01:25 Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! What? Why? Why? Ha ha! My younger brother has a prosthetic leg.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I think it is creepy AF and I have no idea where he got it. I'm reasonably certain that it is something I would rather not know. To be clear here, my brother has two perfectly healthy legs. Why? Still attached to his body. He just has this thing he takes with him everywhere. I don't know why I don't wanna know.
Starting point is 01:01:51 No. He wanted to stay with me rather than our parents while he is home for the holidays. I said he was welcome to stay so long as he doesn't bring that thing into my house. He said it wasn't a big deal and that he would leave it in his luggage. I agreed on the condition that if I saw it
Starting point is 01:02:06 outside of his luggage in my home, that I had the right to destroy it. He backtracked on staying with me and is at our parents' house where he is miserable. They still treat him like a little boy instead of a guy who's almost 30. He called me again after supper and asked to please stay with me.
Starting point is 01:02:24 I said he could so long as we eat together together took his thing and put it into a storage unit until he leaves I get the key He won't do it He says that I'm being a bitch for not letting him stay with me I think he needs to get therapy or a girlfriend boyfriend dog cat hamster something just not a goddamn prosthetic leg That's so funny. What the hell? I wanna meet this guy. What the hell? I wanna meet this guy.
Starting point is 01:02:49 She's like, yeah, you know you can stay with me for Christmas, but hey, leave your leg. Leave your leg. Why? Sorry, you're gonna have to stay with mom and dad. He's just like, you're pulling my leg. Come on, come on. She's like, leave your third leg at home.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Leave your third leg at home. Leave your third leg at home. No. Fuck, you gotta put that third leg in a storage unit, man. Oh my God. That took such a turn. There's gotta be like a spirit attached to it, like it's whispering to him. The leg is talking to him.
Starting point is 01:03:17 There's something going on. There's some attachment to the leg that's not physical. Yeah. It's one of the limbs from Talk to Me. Oh my God! That is truly haunting and I think it's so funny that she's like, leave your leg in the luggage and then you can come.
Starting point is 01:03:37 I fully, man, from the title to what the story actually was because I thought, here you have this brother showing up with a prosthetic leg, and he's like, you gotta take that off, man. You gotta take that off, it freaks me out. You gotta take that off, you gotta hop around my house. That's not what God intended. No, but the leg has a seat at the table.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Dude, that's unbelievable. That's awesome. Verdict was not the asshole. Comments, I know this is extremely distressing for you, but I'm laughing so hard. At first I was like, is this asshole serious? She won't let her brother bring his leg. Like his whole ass leg he needs to walk around
Starting point is 01:04:12 because he literally lost a leg in some horrible accident. But then you clarified both his healthy legs are still attached and I lost it. Not the asshole, but you and I are not the same. I would need to know all of it. Where did you get it? Why do you have it? What do you do with it?
Starting point is 01:04:26 Did you steal it off a bum or something? Then I would stare at him uncomfortably until he broke and told it all to me. I may later regret my decision, but I don't often think that far into the future when something catches my attention. Someone else said, I'm a prosthetist, and I have to ask, what does this leg even look like?
Starting point is 01:04:46 Below knee or above knee? Does it just have the pylon bare or is there a foam covering so that it sort of looks like a leg? Is there a foot shell on it or is the foot component just sort of hanging out? The reason I'm asking is because A, prosthetic anything is mind-bogglingly expensive and B, you can't just have a prosthetic leg
Starting point is 01:05:04 if you have two perfectly healthy legs You literally need a stump to make one that's specifically yours Did your brother receive it from someone did he steal it and just to be sure it's an actual prosthesis And not a leg brace of some kind I've had patients and their families make that mistake before Opie says it looks like a carbon fiber cup with a steel knee and lower leg and foot. They respond, oh Jesus, AK prosthesis are not cheap. That's an entire car right there. I would actually grill your bro on where he got it
Starting point is 01:05:35 because it is 100% not his. If he stole it, he's looking at felony slash grand theft charges. If he bought it, check his and your parents' financials because again, these things are insanely expensive and he doesn't sound like the brightest bulb. Make sure he does not try to sell the prosthesis or any of its components.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I get that they can be hard to get for people who need them the most, but if the components are damaged in any way, they can lead to gnarly injuries for when they inevitably fail. If you truly do want to get rid of it, there are organizations out there that will take old prosthesis and refurbish them. Lastly, someone said, for when they inevitably fail. If you truly do want to get rid of it, there are organizations out there
Starting point is 01:06:05 that will take old prosthesis and refurbish them. Lastly, someone said, an emotional support prosthesis leg. That's a new one. It is so funny how people are investigating. I love all the curiosity. There's always someone in the comments who's a professional in this field.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Yeah, yeah. But that is such a great point. Yeah, is he taking this away from somebody who actually needs it? Like, why? Maybe he got it at like an estate sale or something. A garage sale? I'm literally imagining like a full like knee down leg
Starting point is 01:06:35 with like a New Balance shoe, like attached to it. That is literally the vision that I have in my head. I like to think that he was on the street and some random person came up and just gave it to him. It was like, here, take this and then ran. Yeah. Like it's cursed. Yeah, I like the idea that he was on the street and some random person came up and just gave it to him. He was like, here, take this, and then ran. Yeah. Like it's cursed. Yeah, I like the idea that it showed up
Starting point is 01:06:48 at his doorstep one day. Yeah. And it's just like, he's just like, all right. Upright? Yeah, upright. Right, like mine. Okay. Oh, mine?
Starting point is 01:06:56 It's like the Annabelle doll, but it's just a leg. Oh, just the leg. It's like dibs. Update. Let's go. We gotta, I hope we get some information. Update on legs. I didn't realize how much attention this was going to get.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Enough that someone informed the woman my brother stole it from, and she was able to figure out what happened. She called the cops and he got arrested. Oh my God. He stole it from someone. He stole someone's prosthetic leg. He stole someone's leg.
Starting point is 01:07:22 And was walking around with it like a Viking? Dude, what? Holy shit. It's like a trophy for him. Why would you do that? Was it on them when he stole it? I didn't know your brother was a comic book villain. That's so crazy. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:07:36 That's really scary. Oh my God. I guess he was sort of trying to do the thing where he could be the hero that tracked down her leg. Huh? Please don't ask me what the fuck was going through his head. The leg was expensive enough
Starting point is 01:07:48 that he is facing real criminal charges. That's all. Sorry, there is not more to tell. What do you mean? What? So that person was right. This could be felony slash grand theft charges. These things are worth like over 15K, I guess.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Okay, but was King gonna sell it or like, why did he? OP was saying that he was gonna try to like play the hero and bring it back to her and be like, oh, I found it. I found, and I knew it was yours. I found this leg. Was this like a romantic ploy? Like he stole this woman's leg and then he's gonna show up and be like,
Starting point is 01:08:24 like send it like, I found your leg. Classic Christmas movie. Oh my God. Her brother is one of the characters from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Literally. This is a horrible person. I know how to get the girl.
Starting point is 01:08:37 A horrible person who's also really stupid. This is. Which is funny, but they're still a bad person. Very damaging. Yeah, they are a full criminal now. I think we should hear him out. That's- How did he steal this?
Starting point is 01:08:51 Yeah, like- Oh my God. When did he get the opportunity to steal it? And why has he just been holding on to it for so long? You know who's aware of this? You know who saw this? Santa. Santa saw. Santa saw.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Santa saw this. This guy's on the naughty list for a long time. Well, Santa didn't do anything about it. He's been carrying his leg around. Well, it's not Christmas yet. He was gonna give her another leg. Okay, so Santa just hides. Like a candy cane leg?
Starting point is 01:09:17 No, Santa was a bystander here. Santa, you fucking watched. Yeah, you watched. Well, this poor woman lost her leg. Oh my god, bro. That's crazy. I feel so bad for the lady who lost her leg. You already lose a leg.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And then you get another leg. And then you lose that one. That one gets stolen. I'd be so pissed. She like turned around and she was like damn it. If I'm her, I'm the Joker. I'm becoming the Joker. I belong the Joker.
Starting point is 01:09:44 She's like I'm not meant to have a leg. I'm like I'm replacing it I'm the Joker. I'm becoming the Joker. I belong the Joker. She's like, I'm not meant to have a leg. I'm like, I'm replacing it with a gun now. My next leg is a shotgun. That is crazy. Try to steal it. And this post went so viral that someone was like, hey, I heard you were missing a leg. Someone was like, hey, I was on Reddit.
Starting point is 01:10:02 And I was like, wait a minute. I know your leg is missing. I found it. I think we found it. I had a body. Oh my God. I found it. Some random guy has been taking it to Christmas. He's traveling with the leg. He's not just leaving it at home, like under his bed.
Starting point is 01:10:16 He's like, man, I gotta take this with me. He's taking it on a walk. I'm gonna take it. And he's taking it with him so often that his family knows that he's like, no, you can't bring the leg this time. You can't bring it. Leave the leg. Somehow to me, like if he goes to prison for this,
Starting point is 01:10:35 which maybe it won't be prison, maybe it'll just be like a massive like fine, I don't know. But at him in prison, something about this, I feel like despite even if he was like talking, like hanging out with a murderer, they'd be like, so what are you in for? And he's like, I stole someone's prosthetic leg. Even the murderer would be like,
Starting point is 01:10:50 the fuck is wrong with you? Right, right. He's like, dude, that's uncool. Really unmentable, man. Dude, does Santa know? I killed a man, but that's really uncool. That's just like comic book villain. You can never, you can never live that down.
Starting point is 01:11:06 There's no explanation for it. That is awful. Like there's no, there's zero justification. No, he's got no legs to stand on. You are full on a villain forever. Oh, well I'm so glad that he was tracked down and she got her leg back, I'm assuming. Yeah. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:11:22 That's what's important is she got her leg back. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's some privilege talking'm assuming. Yeah. I hope so. That's what's important is she got her leg back. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's some privilege talking right there. Awesome. Maybe if they can get a lawsuit going, she can have that leg plated gold now. That would be awesome.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Pretty cool. I bet Santa will make that happen. Yeah. Yeah. Santa would. Santa, if you're real, show yourself. Come on, Santa. Come on. Anyways, thank you both for being here. These were some crazy stories.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Hey, thanks for having us. Hey, happy holidays. Happy holidays. Hey. Should we get a Christmas card? Hey, the real gift was being here with the two of you. Aw. Aw. Trevor. And your boot.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And my boot. And your boot. I'm gonna steal that. Oh. And your boot. And my boot. And your boot. I'm gonna steal that. Oh my god. I just bumped into you and my crutches are gone. Like what? It starts with the crutches. Thank you for watching.
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