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Starting point is 00:01:03 That's what liars do. Before we begin, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys to to to to to to to to to to to That's what liars do. That's what the very liar. Before we begin, guys, we have a hat. Look at that. Woo-hoo. So cute. I love it. The colors are so good. Yep.

Starting point is 00:01:14 Like white into a little, nice little orange-ish and then to a yellow and then white. I love it. Perfect. You think I could have. No. Dude, shut out. Oh, what? I don't know, man, take it. Whoa, really? It looks really good. All right, sick. It looks really good on you. Um, so before we get into this, the theme is liars. And I have been told to kind of like,

Starting point is 00:01:35 pay attention to things and be wary. I wonder, these are stories about liars, but also I wonder if any of them are going to be the case where the poster ends up being the liar. So I'm like a little cautious. Possible. Wait a minute, wait a minute. You think people are lying on the internet? I never thought of that before, but it's entirely possible.

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Starting point is 00:02:46 I would say it's actually a bit ridiculous if I wasn't stuck in the middle of it. A bit of background. My girlfriend, who's 25 and I, 27, have been together for about eight months. Before a relationship, my girlfriend spent nearly two years in a relationship with an absolute asshole. Not only did he spend the entire time cheating on her, he also constantly gas litter. Everything was her fault no matter what. I wish I had the space to describe just how fucking awful this man was to her. We met about six months after she finally escaped from that relationship. From the beginning she has made it clear to me that any dishonesty is unacceptable to her from anyone she is dating, even white lies. I bring this up as it's pretty relevant to what this post is about. I was about. I th. I was. I was about. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was thi. thi. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. the the th. to to to to to to to to to to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to theeeeeee. the. the. the. the the. to what this post is about. I was playing Among Us. Whoa, you're cool. Yeah, I am. You're a really cool guy. I was playing Among Us yesterday with a group of friends when she came over. She watched me play for a bit before I offered

Starting point is 00:03:35 her a try herself, as she had already done a bit of gaming with my group. She really got into it. She really enjoyed it. So I pulled out my laptop, created a Steam account for her and bought her the game so to. to. to. to. the game. th. the game. th. th. So, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, the game, th. And, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, the, the, the, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, and, and, the, the, and, the, and, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. I. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, ttttttttthea. I. I. I'm the the the the her, and bought her the game so we could play it together. For those who don't know, Among us is a social deduction game where a group of players try to figure out who the impostors are before the impostors succeed in killing them all. The impostors generally have to be good at lying to win. I'm sure you can see I kill somebody right as someone else walks into the room. They report the body. Now there's only me, the guy who saw me and my girlfriend

Starting point is 00:04:07 left. He accuses me of being the imposter and I accuse him. My girlfriend is the deciding vote. She doesn't know what to do. I say, I swear I'm not lying. So she votes for the other guy and I win the game. Girlfriend gets up and says she has to leave. I tried texting her a few times but she ignored me. I finally heard from her this morning where she sent me a text saying that she feels like she can no longer trust me. It not only bothers her that I swore I wasn't lying to her when I was, I also really bothered her that she wasn't able to tell I was lying, the the together and she could see my face. She understands that lying was part of the game, but she wanted to believe that if I swore something was true, she could believe it no matter what. Now she can't. She needs time to think about what this means for our relationship. I got very defensive at this point and told her I couldn't believe she was making a big deal out of a stupid game. I haven't heard back from her since. Am I the asshole. I thapapapapapapapapapap. I am th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I don't th. I don't thi. I thi. I don't thi. I don't thi. I don't thi. I don't thi. I don't thi. I don't thi. I don't thi. I don't thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. t. tode. toda. today today today togeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee am regretting ever buying her the game. Oh God this one makes me feel this is this is why I don't do this this is why I do

Starting point is 00:05:10 not do this. This is why you don't play among us? Have you played among us? Uh-huh. I think you would love it. Yeah I like to fuck around and lie in games. It's fanaf except the people are the people are the killers. thin't. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th thi this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. this is why I thi. thi. the. the. this is why I the. this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why I this is why are the killers. Like that's, you're kind of like, but you're, when you're killing people, you're trying to be like, oh, I didn't, I didn't kill it. It's almost similar to like, werewolf. It is where you're like running around on a spaceship, but you can see other people. Space, only on a spaceship? Well, they're like little space.

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Starting point is 00:06:07 And like when we played it, like, it gets heated. Like, I would, I'm so bad at lying that, my tel was so obvious, I would get loud and angry. And I'm just like, it would be like, Shane, I so obvious. Yeah. But you feel bad sometimes, but I'm like, it's a game. And Courtney is really good at it. Oh, yeah. Courtney is devastatingly good.

Starting point is 00:06:31 She's such a good game. But it's kind of one of those things where it's like, yeah, it's a game. And also, just because someone's good at lying, a trust is built on, oh, well, I can tell if you're lying. Trust is built on, you wouldn't do that to me because you respect me. I feel like this one's tricky because it sounds like she dated an absolute monster before him. And maybe it's triggering her in some ways. It's been hardly. How long? They've been dating for eight months, but he met her like six months after. It's not even like. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I, I, I, I, like, I, like, I, I, like, like, I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, it's th, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's th, it's th, it's th. It's th, it's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tr. tr. tr. true, true, true, tru. trust, trust, trust is s. trust is s. trust, trust is s. trust is s. trust is thi, it's thi, it's thi.... I don't think among us is the right thing to start in the first year of dating.

Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah. Well, especially with, especially, I would say, especially given what she said of like, lies are unacceptable, even white lies. Yeah, why would you play among us with her? I think it's one of those situations where like, like, after how bad her ex was, she is making him pay for like what, she hasn't recovered from... Yeah. Like, she needs she, th, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, especially, like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, like, like, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, like, like, thi, like, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th bad her ex was, she is making him pay for like what, she hasn't recovered from, like she needs to build trust back in general. This one's really tricky. It's sad. I, I, he's not the asshole, I don't think. But I feel bad for her, but she has to work on this.

Starting point is 00:07:41 She cannot go through life like this. It's also tough because like, there's no way he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he work on this. She cannot go through life like this. Yeah. It's also tough because there's no way he understood the scope of it. Because if I think if he knew how bad it was, then he would never have bought her among us. He's saying he regrets, he's just like, oh my god, I wouldn't have never done this. Yeah, but like, think it was the fact that she couldn't tell that he was lying. Yeah. I think that's what scared her. But that's what I mean where it's like just because somewhat like a lot of people are really good at that game.

Starting point is 00:08:17 But you can't go off the premise of well as long as I can tell when you're lying. I thi th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi thi thi thi that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the thi thi thi thee. the. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th tell when you're lying. I think they weren't ready for that game. It's also so different, I feel like, I can lie in among us, like, because I don't care, like I know it's like, there's no guilt involved, because it's like, it's a game, it's not real. Yeah. Yeah, I, I agree. I also, just like, I don't know, eight months in. Oh, it's clear that it wasn't a good idea. Verdict was not the asshole.

Starting point is 00:08:49 Comments saying, not the asshole, your girlfriend needs therapy to deal with these issues. It's terrible what happened to her, but it's also not realistic to expect you to never tell a lie, to the point you can't even play a game. Someone said, not the asshole, if she understood lying was part of the game, why would she feel the need to get upset over it? I think she needs to get over it. And there's an update. Oh, my god. Good, because those comments were a little like, all right. Yeah, here we go. Update. First off, my girlfriend and I are still together. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the th. thi. the the th. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I theeeeea. theatea. the a the a the a the a the a thea thea. thea. the original Am I the Asshole thread, the consensus seemed to be not the asshole. But looking back on it, I think even when I was writing that out, that I was kind of an asshole for what happened. I remember reading some of the replies regarding my girlfriend and how she needs to get over

Starting point is 00:09:36 herself and just becoming more and more angry at that point where I was getting angry and wanting to defend her, that I realized that, yeah, I was kind of an asshole. I shouldn't have looked her in her eyes while I swore I wasn't lying, and I shouldn't have become overly defensive and minimized her feelings by saying it was only a game. I gave it a day or two before I was going to send an apology, but she contacted me first to place all the blame on ourselves. She had gone over to stay at her sister's place after what happened. At first apparently my girlfriend wouldn't really explain what happened to her besides that I lied to her face, but after a day or so she

Starting point is 00:10:17 finally explained the event and thin, their sister actually defended me, saying this would be a really stupid reason to end what seemed like a good relationship. This surprised me since I didn't actually think she liked me. It was after this talk with her sister that my girlfriend called me. We met up and after talking it was obvious to both of us that she still has a lot of issues from her asshole ex that she needs to work through and that we might have gotten together too soon. But we both we both th the th their their their th, we both th, we both th, we both th, we both th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to tho, to to tho, and tho, to to to to to tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-s, thr-s, to to to to toge.e.e. toooooooooooooooooooooooooo. thr-s, end the relationship, so we decided to stay together and try to work things out. She started seeing a therapist which has done wonders. I am so glad that our relationship survived that.

Starting point is 00:10:51 She makes me happier than anyone else I've ever met. I couldn't imagine my life without her. And hey, last month we actually played among us again. It was her idea. what happened. We had a lot of fun together, although I did insist we play in different rooms and I definitely stayed away from saying, I swear, which she told me she found kind of cute. Oh. That worked out. Yeah. That worked out. That worked out.

Starting point is 00:11:14 Look, among us, I brought them. told them. that's, theymea. . That's really cute. That was very cute. That was great. I love that he was like, I didn't think the sister liked me. And she's like, oh, I still don't. Oh, I don't like you. I just love my sister. But this was stupid.

Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah. I like that they both, I think what what really is great here is they both, regardless of who's right or wrong in a situation. I'd, what did I do in this situation? Like I always think self-reflection is the best thing to do. Yes. Because you sit there and you go, I was right. It's like a relationship is going to eventually be unstable if that's how you're operating. Yeah. So that's great that they both came together in a way. I agree.

Starting point is 00:11:56 That's a good base for a healthy relationship. to just be like, hey, like, I understand why you feel the way that you feel, like, and I'm sorry for, like, the things that I didn't make you feel that way, like. There's also, like, to a degree, it kind of, I don't know, this, people feel very differently about this in regards to video games, but it's like, you're playing among us with someone for the first time. It's like because it's her first round ever it's like maybe like tell some lies but like yeah yeah I don't know it's it all had to know that he had to do it and then be like oh I'm defending her against the comments okay I need to work this exactly exactly exactly exactly all right next story this comes from Am I the Asshole? Am I the Assul for calling my boyfriend

Starting point is 00:12:48 a lying piece of shit for not buying me the perfume I wanted for my birthday? I, a 21-year-old woman, am really into beauty, makeup, skin care, perfumes, et cetera, and collect perfumes. There's one perfume I've been wanting for quite some time now, but it's been way out of my budget. I'm a college student working a part-time job at the movie theater, which pays about 13 bucks an hour, and I have other priorities to pay for, so it's taken a while for me to save up.

Starting point is 00:13:14 I'd finally saved up the amount I needed and was planning on buying myself the perfume as a birthday gift. My birthday thoo. I told me told my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my, the perfume, the perfume, the perfume, the perfume, the perfume, the perfume, the perfume, the perfume, the perfume, the perfume, the the perfume, the the my boyfriend, who's 20, this, and he told me to go spend my money on something else and he'd buy me the perfume instead. I told me didn't have to, considering it's expensive, but he insisted. A few days before my birthday, I asked him if he was sure about it, and told him again that I had no problem buying it myself. He told me since he'd already bought it, that I could spend my money on something else. I took my best friend and my younger sister out to a nice restaurant and to the movies after. I wasted more than half the money I'd saved up, but obviously didn't think anything of it. So on my birthday my boyfriend gave me my gift, and it was a body spray and bath bomb. I asked him what happened to the perfume, and he told me what happened told me it was a lot more expensive than he'd expected, and way out of his budget. I got mad at him and asked him why he lied to me and told me to waste my money on something else, when he could have easily told me he couldn't afford it, and I'd have bought it myself.

Starting point is 00:14:13 He called me a spoiled brat and said I was expecting too much from him. I called him a piece of lying to him and his friends calling me names and saying I'm using him for money. I also got a text from his mom who I had a great relationship with, calling me childish for throwing temper tantrums when I don't get my way. I honestly don't see how I'm in the wrong here, but I'm not the type of person to not say sorry if I am. So am I the asshole. Okay, so... So, based on my understanding, no, I don't think she's the asshole. I mean, don't, don't say you bought someone something that if you didn't.

Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, he said he wrapped it. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, that's weird. Like, she was, she was like, kind of, also body spray is not the same. No, he did not. He didn't get her the good. Even if it was a different perfume like don't say if someone goes like Because like I've done that I think we've all done that where it's like hey There's something I might get like you're not getting that for me. Yeah, it's like if someone says like oh, no, I'm not I'm getting you some different or like. Yeah, I'm getting you some different or like. Yeah, I'm that's like. I'm getting you some. I'm that. I'm th. th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm getting th. I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm getting th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. that. Yeah. Yeah. That's, you know, I feel like that's a healthy relationship. People do that and it's like, hey, I'm making sure. So don't... That does kind of suck because she did spend the money that she saved for a perfume that she really

Starting point is 00:15:32 wanted to go out to dinner. Yeah, she would have done something different. Yeah, I would be annoyed to. It's just a weird thing to to thrown. to thi. Yeah. Yeah. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's just, that's just, that's just, that's just, that's that's that's just, that's just, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's weird. that's weird. that's, weird. that's, weird. Yeah, weird. Yeah, it. Yeah, it. Yeah, it. Yeah, it. Yeah, it. Yeah, it. Yeah, it. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's thi. thi. that's that's that's thi. that's that's thi. that's that's just, that's thi. that's just, that's just, that's just, that's just, that's just, that's just, I mean the biggest, what makes him an asshole to me is that after all this, he just went and told everyone. Yeah. And then... Yeah, he's 20 years old and you just went and talked shit to all of his friends and like his mom. Yeah, it's like complaining about it. Come on man. Like, grow up not the asshole, which I agree with. Not the asshole, he lied to you and promised something and then didn't follow through. You gave him multiple chances to change his mind. He promised you it was already wrapped and got your hopes up, caused you to spend the money you had intentionally saved up for this item, and then acted like it was your

Starting point is 00:16:18 fault, you were disappointed and upset. Also the way he responded to all of this, leave him. Opie said, yeah, I'm considering doing that. It's not even the perfume I'm mad about. It's the fact that he lied and then got his friends to gang up on me. Someone said, not the asshole, your boyfriend deliberately lied to you, promising you something that you would wanted and could more than afford for yourself, and then was surprised when you reacted poorly. If he lied about a gift, imagine what other more serious things he could lie about. I hope he responded, the perfume I wanted was the Baccarat Rouge $540, $465. Whoa! Damn!

Starting point is 00:16:54 Yeah, goddame. Okay, this is different. That changes things for you? That's almost $500. Yeah. I feel like though,though like I don't get it for perfume. So she had saved up so this is something she's passionate about right she collects perfumes so she's passionate about this so she's like hey I've

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Starting point is 00:17:56 And it's like, I think like that behavior is a red flag to me, and more so, more so that he went and told everyone. I'm like, if that's how any issue between you is going to work out, just leave. Don't, you're in college, like go, go have one. Like you don't deal with this, this asshole. Go spend money on your perfume, you know? Update. Oh, boy. It's the mom. She's the mom. She's the asshole. So I did go to his parents' place to clear things up.

Starting point is 00:18:28 I sat down with him and told him I didn't think I could continue the relationship. He started crying and saying he'd save up his money and never lied to me again. I told them that the perfume isn't the problem and I wouldn't have cared at all if he'd been honest with me. It's the fact that he lied, then got his friends to call me names and harass me. He said he never did that and showed me their text messages. I did read through them and all he said was that I didn't like his gift, which isn't the case. I asked him if he deleted, messages but he denied. I showed him the messages I got from his friends and he got mad, and called them. He basically cursed them out and told them out them out their their their their their their their their. their. their. He said, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi, tho, tho, tho, thi. thi, thi, tho, th. th. And, th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th th th the, th the, the, the, the, the. I thr. He, thr-a. He, thr-a. He theeeeean. He theeei. He said, thee. He said, the. He said, the. with them, but I didn't really know what to say to that. I did apologize for my words, though, because I did feel like I was being too harsh. I did confront him about his mom, and he apologized for that. He admitted to lying to her, so she'd take his side. He said he knew that she would take my side if she heard the truth, and he already felt shi-aught thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, tho, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th.. thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, and, and, thr-s, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, too. too. too''a. too. too. too. thr get upset at that because he was jeopardizing my relationship with his family just to save face.

Starting point is 00:19:28 I wouldn't even have told his mom so he just involved her for no reason. He apologized to the mom, to his room so her and I could talk. I showed her the messages between him and I and explained what really happened. She apologized the told me the amount that I needed. She scolded my boyfriend and he also apologized numerous times. I genuinely believe he's sorry but I honestly don't know how to feel. We've been dating for two years and he's always been an amazing boyfriend to me. I love him more than anything and I do see a future with him. I just want some time to think about everything though.

Starting point is 00:19:58 He did ask me to stay the night night night night night night night night night. I know a lot of guys told me I should end things. I was really considering it, but now I'm not sure. I just need time to think it over. She wrote all that while he was on her chest? My God. He's a heavy sleeper. She's like, fuck. So, um, just, there's a little, the little, the little, the little, there's a little, there's a little, there's a little, there's a little, there's a little, there's a little, there's a little like, there's no more post, but there's another update. She did think more about the whole situation and she did decide to break up with it.

Starting point is 00:20:34 Good. That's obviously. I think it's, I think it's, it's just clean slate it. I think it's fine. I think it's fine, I think it's fine just because it's like, that's a a a a big, that's a big, that's a that's a that's a that's that's that's that's that's fine, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine, that's, that's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's, that's, thi's, thi's, thi's, thi's, thi's, thi., thi's thi. thi, thi, that's a that's a big bump when you're that young and it's just like you're in college you you there's always when you're that young there's also the opportunity of like a year so from now maybe you'll decide to get back together I don't know this this isn't to be like one of those stories where it's like whoa this is so messed up it's like it is it is small in some ways but I thi th is like it is like it is like it is like it is like it is like it is like it is like it is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi is thi is thi is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi's like, there's nothing wrong with breaking up and going and exploring new things and new avenues because I do think he it sounds like there's some growing up he has to do. He did admit it. I think that's great. But he did

Starting point is 00:21:14 also admit like, yeah I lied to my mom so that she would take my side and it's just like, yeah, it's like, if you're first instinct on the first day of having any sort of slight disagreement is to go to your mom and say that, I'm like, Mommy. You just got some growing up to do maybe. Like, he is 20. He's 20. They're super young. They're super young. That's why I'm like.

Starting point is 00:21:34 I also like, it's weird because I don't know that I believe in that about? I feel like that's a crazy way for them to react, but if that is how they react after him just being like, oh, she didn't like my gift, then like, if that's the people that he's hanging out with and those are his friends, like that's a huge red flag. Yeah. I think he deleted text messages. Or maybe he'd talked to cut off contact with them, another red flag. It's just a lot. It's just a whole lot. It's very impulsive, very like, I don't know. It sounds like she decided

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Starting point is 00:22:34 You know when a Reddit, when it starts off in their 30-year-old, when it starts to be some bucked-up-b to be so bad. You're like, oh God. A 30-year-old to go to Reddit about their relationship. It has to be so, it's devastating. The first two is like, oh, the earth is shattered. Yeah, when they're 20, I'm like, there we go. It went 20, it's like, ah, he lied about a birthday gift. It's like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, oh, it's like, it's like, like, it's like, like, itthis comes from relationship advice. My girlfriend told me she was with a friend, but that friend was with me picking out an engagement ring. How do I confront my girlfriend about her lie?

Starting point is 00:23:13 God, this is a doozy. I swear my life feels like a movie right now. I, a 28-year-old man, am planning on proposing to my girlfriend of three years, a 26-year-old woman. Now I suck at picking out jewelry. I'm the type of guy that doesn't see a problem with heart-shaped jewelry. Seriously, why is it considered so ugly? So every time I want to buy something for my girl, I usually consult one of our mutual friends. My girl's best friends. My girl's best friends. My girl's best friends, thrown. My girl's best frinds. the girl's best friend, thrown. th. th. th. th. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I thiol' th. I it came time to pick out a ring, I consulted my girlfriend's best friend Justine. Justine and I are quite close and she knows my girlfriend better than anyone, including me. So when my girlfriend went out to visit her sister and baby nephew, I invited Justine over to the house to help pick out a ring. Justine and I looked

Starting point is 00:23:55 through a few catalogs, but decided it was a dead end my girlfriend would be coming home, so Justine and I thought of a clever text to gauge how much time we had. I asked her when she'd be coming home as I was ordering takeout and wanted to know when to tell them to have the food ready buy. She responded by saying it would be a few hours. She met up with Justine to go shopping. Now, obviously, this took me by surprise, thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the toe. the the the the toe. the the toe, the, the the toe, the, the, toe, te, te, te, te, te, toe, to be te, te, te, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, te.e.e.e.e.e. te.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. I's ise. standing inside my house. I showed Justine the text and she looked as confused as I was. It isn't out of the ordinary for my girlfriend to meet up with people out of the blue like that for shopping, lunch, etc. She's a very spontaneous person and loves making plans on the fly. So ordinarily I would have believed this text in a heartbeat. However, obviously this had to be a lie. When she came home, she acted completely normal, and I played along,

Starting point is 00:24:45 but it's really been hard to act like everything's fine. We got takeout, ate together, and cuddle on the couch after. So far, she's caught on a little that something is upsetting me, but I just can't tell her what, looking at her kills me. I don't know what to do. My girlfriend and I have to to do. to tho tho tho the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thr, try try the, the, try, the, to to to the, the, the, thr-a, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi. thi. thi. thr-a. thr-auuuu. thiii. thiii. thi. thi. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thea. tell each other everything, so this lie is killing me. I want to ask her about it so badly, but if I tell her I knew she was lying, I'd have to explain why, and I really don't want to do that. What should I do? I know she lied to me, but I don't know how to confront her about it. Should I just forget it?

Starting point is 00:25:14 This won't stop to confront her about it. Because if you're going to take the step to ask her to marry you, you have to. I think so too. You can't forget it. I think, I think he could say like, hey, I wanted to meet up with Justine to plan something for you or something like that. Yeah. Oh, what is she lying? Yeah. Like I, he has to confront her. Yeah. Ooh.

Starting point is 00:25:46 What is she lying about? Some comments here. I know you say you can't tell her why you know, but I honestly think you should. You don't want this to bug you forever and propose to a girl that could be potentially hiding something. Just say you were hanging out with a gives. to the girl to a girl who

Starting point is 00:26:07 could be doing you wrong but also just as bad to sit there and let that eat lie eat you alive. Someone said see I would have texted a selfie of you and Justine back to her. How do you know she wasn't with your best friend picking out a ring for you? Lastly someone said well you, you no longer have zero trust issues. I'd say this is a big trust issue since you know she lied. First things first, if you bought the ring or put down a down payment on it, take it back. Try to get her to double down on her lie, then confront her. Do you know if Justin has talked to her? Okay. I don't know if you need to have her double down on the lie. the lie. the lie. These comments are not helping. Send a picture back of him or Justine like, oh, fuck you.

Starting point is 00:26:46 Yeah. What? This is crazy. I think some advice is very much on the play of like, oh, here's how you want up her. Here's how you win. And it's like, you love this person and want it to work out because you can't. If you need to be doing stuff like that, the relationship to me is over. Like, if you can't just go and talk to your partner about something, then you're not really in a relationship.

Starting point is 00:27:10 You're kind of enemies now. I get the, I think where a lot of comments come from is a place of catharsis of like, you don't fucking get her as if you do this. Yes, exactly. If she's a bad person. Because as someone else pitched, it's like, was she out buying a ring? Like, we don't know. Yeah, exactly. Um, update, obviously, on this one.

Starting point is 00:27:34 I decided to confront my girlfriend. I thought about using some of the lies people suggested, but they just wouldn't make sense. To say I ran into Justine somewhere, well, I told my girl I had to stay home and do stuff around the house, and that's why I couldn't go with her to see my sister-in-law. To say Justine was helping me pick out jewelry, it doesn't make sense for her to come all the way to our house to help me pick out a piece of jewelry, like an engagement ring. If I just wanted to send me pictures of jewelry she might like. It all happens over text. None of the excuses made sense, so I decided to be honest. I basically just said that I knew we'd been thinking about marriage and she probably knew a proposal was coming soon, so I invited Justine over to help me find her the perfect

Starting point is 00:28:14 ring. And that so happened proposing and the ring, but then we got back on the topic of where she was and she confessed that she was what she was really doing. No, she wasn't cheating and no, she wasn't picking out a ring for me. The amount of times that was commented was crazy. So some people are dog people and some people are cat people. Well, I'm a snake person. I grew up with snakes my whole life, but I never felt like I was able to get one because my girlfriend has always been uneasy about living with a snake, which I completely respected. Also the process of buying and raising a snake is very different from buying and raising

Starting point is 00:28:51 a dog or cat. It's quite complicated. So you can imagine my surprise me to the girl friend showed me a picture of her holding the cutest Kenyan sandboa I have ever seen. Cute? Needless to say, my girlfriend was going to surprise me with a snake. We're picking her up next week. Let me know if you want a pet tax. She's so cute. I definitely did not expect this and I feel bad for ruining the surprise, but oh well, life is good, sorry if this ending isn't what you guys wanted or expected.

Starting point is 00:29:17 Just a snake. Thanks for reading. Just a snake. Wait, this ties it up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up th is up th is up th is up th is up th is up th is up th is up th is up th is up th is up in th is up in th is th is th is th is thi is th. th. the thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to thi. to to theeea. thea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. thea. thea. the. the. th is, wait, this this ties it up in a very bizarre way. The guys are like, just a snake, she's a snake, bro! No, she's gotta be bad. Um, well that's... Whoa. How crazy would it be if there was like another update?

Starting point is 00:29:38 She went out and was cheating on me, and she took a picture of a snake as a cover. They went to a steak place together. Well that's good. I knew it. I was like, I don't think. Because Justine was like, huh? Yeah. If she was like, oh I'm sure she just messed up, if she was covering for her. Yeah. Yeah. God. I have such like internet brain rot that I'm like kind of sad that it just ended great. I'm like, oh, they both really love each other and she got him a snake and they're going to get married. Like, I wish there was some more drama. That's when the show ends.

Starting point is 00:30:15 That's when the show ends. Yeah, like this is awesome. I'm very happy. he's like, oh, well, where's the rest of it? It's definitely fucked up that stories about bad people are sometimes ones where you're like, whoa! Oh, okay, good, these are good people. They're gonna have a snake in a wedding. Okay, awesome. Cool. Good people.

Starting point is 00:30:33 Yeah. I wish there was a picture of the ring. the thrown. Yeah. Wow. All right. Good for them. Awesome.

Starting point is 00:30:48 Yay. All right, here's our next one. This comes from True Off my chest. I've been telling people at work that I'm a Leo. I'm not. Oh, OK. Let me guess. 22 years old. I've been telling people at work that I'm a Leo, I'm not in an attempt to create a long-con

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Starting point is 00:31:31 them a fake birthday without even knowing the sign associated with it. It turns out that based on this information, I'm a Leo. They practically fell all over themselves telling me how much sense that made. You have th. You you you you you. You you. You you. You you. You th. You th. You th. You thi. You have thi. thi. that you have that that that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is thate. that is their thate. thate. the. the. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are that. that. that that that that toda. today. today. today is today is today is te. teateate. teate. te. te. tha. t such a creative spirit or you're so generous or my favorite, you're so vital. What the fuck? We're all pretty friendly with each other so I thought it would be kind of funny to do this and then reveal to them later that I'm not a Leo at all to see how they reacted and covered for themselves to justify their ongoing belief in Magic Star influences. Well, unfortunately, one of my bosses seems to believe that me being that me, the. And, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, the their, their, thr-a, and thr-s, and throoooooooooooooooooooooooo, and thr-s, and thr-s, thr-s, their, their, the my bosses seems to believe that me being a Leo makes me uniquely suited to work on various projects, and I've actually landed on some good opportunities because of it. After a presentation to clients, I was recently told that my Leo spirit was really carrying the team through such a difficult deadline. Now I'm genuinely worried that someone is going to figure out my real birthday. I work for a big company that has my real birthday in the system, and there's a th, and th, and th, and th, I, I, I, I, I, I's, I, I, I's, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I big company that has my real birthday in the system and there's a chance that some weird auto-generated public email or post somewhere will congratulate the October

Starting point is 00:32:28 birthdays or something. I am basically caught up in a lie that's based on nonsense to begin with, and I'm really confused about what to do. I will probably never tell anyone at work this information, so I figured I'd tell a bunch of strangers on the internet in the hopes that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. I thoes. I the I the I the. I am to to thease to told I am told I'm told the the told I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to tho to tho tho tho tho the. the. the. I thea. thea. I'm thean toldo' toldo. toldo. toldo. toldo toldo. toldo toldo toldo. I'm toldea toldea. I'm toldea. found out and have some kind of weird disciplinary action taken. Imagine my boss firing me for pretending to be a Leo, that's such a Pisces thing to do. Kidding. Ha! Edit, I am absolutely loving people saying that's such a Libra thing to do or it's such a Libra thing to get into situations like this. I said I was born in October but didn't specify the date. I'm not th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. th. th. I th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi thi thi. I'm thi. I'm thi thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm such such such a th. That's such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such such th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th th th th th th th th thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm such a thi. I'm thi. I'm not a Libra either. Sagittars. Edit 2, people who are defending astrology by telling me that it's much more complicated than just your birth date, and then proceeding to explain detailed nonsense about the movement

Starting point is 00:33:11 of the celestial bodies. That is not the convincing argument you think it is. Lastly, edit number three, kidding, I'm a Libra. So all those people saying, that's so Scorpio, you're the ones who are wrong, or is that what a Scorpio would say to throw you off the trail? Who knows? According to Google, Libra's gravitate toward intellectualism, so maybe this is all an elaborate thought experiment. That's so Libra me, or is pretending I'm a Libra the Scorpio move? Okay. What is happening? I am very open. I'm a thapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapap. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi've talked about this. I'm very much a skeptic of Astrology. He doesn't believe I I don't actively believe in it

Starting point is 00:33:49 I Somehow I'm so much more exhausted by this guy Yeah, than astrology because I'm just like dude stop like but I will say what I don't like I don't like I I don't mind people like, you know, you're allowed to have fun with anything or believe in things, but I don't th, I th., I th. th. th. th. th. tho tho, I tho, I the boss the boss, I the boss, I that that the boss that the boss that thi that thi thi thi, I don't that thi, I don't that that thi, I don't thi, I don't that that that th th th thi, I don't thi, I don't thi, I don't to thi, I don't to to to thi, I don't to to th. I don't th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, I don't I don't I don't I don't thi, I don't thi, I don't to thi. I'm thi. I don't thi. I don't tho thi. I don't thi. I don't you're allowed to have fun with anything or believe in things, but I don't love that the boss assigned him to a project because of his birthdate. That's, that's crazy. Fucked up. Yeah, that's actually, like, that is a form of discrimination or whatever. What is his job? Yeah, I'm like, do you guys.

Starting point is 00:34:17 Do you guys work at Ber? Yeah, Patagonia? What's that? You're Leo? Hey, the Pice's? You're the CEO now. Not invited to this meeting. Sorry, Scorpio's only in this meeting. Yeah, like, what? Oh, that's always where I draw the line with astrology when it's like, oh, I would never go on a date with a Libra, or I would never talk, associate with this. I'm like, that's fucked, that's fucking weird.

Starting point is 00:34:49 I know some people who are like that. I think that's where I'm like, you're like, uh-oh, that's why I didn't work. Like, humans are way too complicated. Yes. I do believe. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that's. I that's. I that's. I the winter in a place like you spent your first months like inside more like the people around you probably acted differently based on the seasons you were born like I can buy into that but I'm not going to go around assuming anything about someone based on right anything you know it's like to say oh I don't trust people who are born in this date is as weird

Starting point is 00:35:25 as assuming anything about someone's background that they can't control. I do like some astrology, but not to the point of like, oh no or yes. But if someone tells me their sign, then I'm like, okay, I would say when I learned my sign I was like, oh, this makes a lot of sense. I think you've explained it to me that it, you, because a lot of people around here love it, but they like it as just kind of like, it's fun. It's fun. It's fun.

Starting point is 00:35:54 It's fun. It's for me. It's for me. And that's great. I think that's fine. There's a a Cancer Cusp. Okay so I'm a Leo Sun, Sagittarius Moon, Cancer Rising. The thing is I know nothing about it. I really don't. I know that stuff. I know that stuff. I know that stuff. But I know how fun it is for other people. Because I love when I tell people that and they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get they get th th th the th th the the th the th the the the th th the the th th so the the tho the the the the soe the the the the the the the the the the the so so so so so so so so. Okay so so. Okay so so so so so so so so so so so so the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho tho tho tho to tus. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I tell. I soe. I tell. I soe. I soe. I soe. I soe. I soeo soe. Okay so. I soe. a fun thing. I don't know anything about it, but... Here's the thing. It's cool. Shane's Moon and Sun.

Starting point is 00:36:25 Here's the thing, you know, like, like, Beyonce, Zendea and Kiki Palmer, we're all Virgo's and like, we're, you know, it's just like, I think it makes sense, you know? You are a Virgo. That does make sense. Go. We should leave shit here. My joke is that as a Virgo, I don't believe in astrology. Because I don't feel like I meet many Virgoes who believe in astrology. That makes sense. My mom. She doesn't. She's like, what are we talking about? Are there Virgoes out there who adamantly believe in astrology? Because I have not, I've not met any. Yeah, I want to know. I'm not one. I'm not one. I'm an Aquarius. I'm an Aqu. I'm an Aqu. I'm an Aqu. I'm an Aqua. I'm an Aqua. I'm an Aqua. I'm not. I'm not one. I'm not one. I'm not one. I'm not one. I'm not one. I'm an aquarium. I'm an aquarium. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm not one. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm. I'm. I'm. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm that. I'm that. I'm that. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that I feel like we that actually okay yeah we believe but we're also like don't bullshit me but this guy's also I it's a this is not

Starting point is 00:37:12 an Am I the Assault Post but I'm like come on dude yeah you're also being a little much here what is he gonna do because there's definitely gonna be an automated birthday thing. I I feel like I don't know I feel like an easy kind of cop out as to be like oh I just like don't don't like don't like don't like don't like don't like don't like don't like don't like don't like don't like don't like don't like don't like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I. I. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I. the. an automated birthday thing. I feel like, I don't know, I feel like an easy kind of cop-out is to be like, oh like I just like don't like love people knowing my birthday. Like I just like don't like I said that because like I don't love people knowing my actual birthday. And then just be like I don't think. I didn't think it was going work at? Exactly my thought. Someone said, I work at HR, and if a manager came to me about disciplining someone for lying about their sign, I would turn it around to question why they are using someone's sign

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Starting point is 00:38:14 It's been about a month and things are just getting weirder, unfortunately. Oh no! I tried to do the courage, I sat down with the original co-workers that I gave the wrong birthday to, without my boss, who is the real issue right now. I basically told them, hey, something really awkward is going on with our boss, and it kind of started because of a lie I told you guys a couple months ago. Of course, when you admit openly to lying,. Paraphrasing here, but I told them, so remember when we were talking about our birthdays and signs, I kind of told you guys the wrong birthday because I'm really uncomfortable with my sign. I don't think it fits me at all. This was a

Starting point is 00:38:53 good thing to say apparently because they immediately laughed to, the, their theyme. And when I told toll, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their. their their. their. their. their. their. their their their their. their their. their their their their their theirto do. I told them that I always felt like a Leo and I really liked a lot of the qualities that I had read about them, so I gave a fake birthday. So you would like me more, which they seem to really understand. Guys, I think this was written by George Casanza. So you told him you're a Leo? I told him I'm a Leo. I'm a Leo. I got a promotion because I'm a, I'm totally my Leo Jerry. I got a promotion because I'm a Leo. Yeah. Scorpio. And then he like leaves. Um, they were really nice about it and felt really guilty that I was basically lying

Starting point is 00:39:35 to cover the lie, but I'm already in too deep. So I told them, hey, this is really awkward for me because our boss is giving me more opportunities because I'm a Leo. That is the biggest th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to thi. to to to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. That is the biggest issue with that story. That's the craziest shit. At this point, one of them says basically, hey, you know what, maybe Leo is your rising sign. Again, exactly what some people in the comments predicted and offered to do my chart for me. Feeling super guilty about lying to these nice people, and I guess trying to connect with them rather than mock them. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, the, and, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, thi, thi, is, is, thi, is thi, thi, thi, thi. toge. toge, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, to connect with them rather than mock them, I said, okay, sure. We work remote a lot of days, but we actually made plans to meet up at the office and then stay after we finished work so they could do the reading.

Starting point is 00:40:09 Is it a reading? I literally don't know. It was super dumb, but I enjoyed it. We went into a conference room and we mapped out the you, this is like 8 p.m. by now, and at my job, that means fucking no one is in the building, especially with a lot of people still working remote, who walks past the conference room but my fucking boss. The one who has been fawning over my performance since thinking I was a Leo. I guess she had come in to gets all excited, and goes, oh, what's going on in here? And my co-worker, who is a fucking G, just saving my ass, explaining that I had lied about my birthday,

Starting point is 00:40:50 that I wasn't a Leo, but that I always felt like one, but doing it way better than I ever could, essentially gaining so much sympathy for me and making me seem like this trapped in the wrong star sign. It was awesome and the vibes were good. So my boss and my co-worker are going over my chart and it turns out that I'm not a Leo rising, but I am a Gemini rising and that got them talking about how that was so me

Starting point is 00:41:14 because I'm really social at work and I'm a multitasker and talkative. And they basically forgot that a couple months ago that a that a that a that a that a th ago ago ago ago ago ago ago ago ago ago ago ago ago ago ago ago the tho the the the tho the the tho their their their their their their their thoom o' a to to to the vibe was good, I even made a joke like, hey, I know that you needed a Leo helping out on those projects, but I hope there's room for a Gemini, ha ha. She aided up and was like, hey, I think a Gemini is compatible with the team we have now. You obviously have already fit right in, blah, blah, blah. So the work thing is no longer concerned, but here's where it kind of, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it, where it is, where it is, where it is, where it is, where it is, the the the the the the the the the thi, the thi, there's there's the the the there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's is there's, there's, there's is there's, there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, the thr-a, the thr-a. thr-a. the thr-a' is thr-I is thr-a' thr-I is throooom. there's to take the chart home, which I didn't really think anything of, I guess, because I certainly don't care about it or want it. And then a few days go by, and then it's the weekend,

Starting point is 00:41:50 and then I log on to a Zoom meeting on Monday, and she asked me to stay on after everyone was hung up. She goes, OP, I'm sorry if this is overstepping. My daughter is close to your age, she's just finished college, and according to your charts, you would be so compatible. So I would love it if you would ask her out sometime. She kept saying, no pressure, but if you know this woman, she obviously was pressuring me and she's clearly too invested in her employees' personal lives. Honestly I was so dumbfounded when she brought it up that I was basically speechless. So that was about a week ago and since then she's had had daughter follow and DM me on Instagram and email me and start basically flirting with me

Starting point is 00:42:27 It's all pretty casual conversation, but she's clearly prepped her with all feels pretty inappropriate but I also feel worried about hurting feelings. So yeah, this is awkward and I would argue it's perhaps worse than when we started. Hell. What is this? What is this boss? What is this boss? What is this boss? What is this boss?

Starting point is 00:43:01 Can I take that chart home? She was just there, glasses on stars? It's just like, th, th, th, the the the the the th, the th, the the th, th, th, th, th. I. I, th. I, th. I, tho, th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. So, thi. So, thi? thi? So, thiiiiii. So, thii. So, thi. So, this is this is thi, that chart home? She was just there, glasses on, stars, just like mapping the charts. Oh my poor fucking daughter. Is there a chart? I want to know what her daughter's sign is. Yeah, is their HR? Yeah, what if, what if he meets the daughter and they're perfect together? Well, that's so Gemini of him. This is so awesome.

Starting point is 00:43:25 The boss is like... This is hilarious. You're right, it's literally like a Georgia, it's like a Seinfeld like B-story. It's like modern day episode of Seinfeld. Yes. Oh my God. So where do they work? Berkenskstak's is a good call.

Starting point is 00:43:40 Yeah, like Patkoggio Bork. A boxed Water. Boxed Water. They got to work somewhere like that. Oh, this is so fucked up. That is the horror movie. Awesome. It's awesome. It's why you don't, you don't lie, because you don't know what bullshit is going to get

Starting point is 00:43:58 into. No, this is so funny. Someone should write a script. This is such an awesome man. I know. This is so good. Oh my god. Someone who lies about their star sign and then just it keeps getting further. Gets into a long marriage with a fucking Pisces and it's like oh no. God damn. That's straight to streaming romcom. All the signs have good qualities. I just like, what? I want to know what our sign is, the daughter. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:44:29 Yeah. Well, I guess I never will. No update? No update. They're not together? No update. No update. No.

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Starting point is 00:46:43 Trying to organize it is often a hassle and it's, there's a lot of drama. Yeah. With people getting together trying to run a game for weeks or months or years. D.M. has decided I am lying about my roles because I am a girl and wants to roll for me the rest of the campaign. No, no, no. no, no, no. I've decided that you're lying about your wall. I will go for you. Clearly, you are being deceitful.

Starting point is 00:47:11 Okay, let me start by saying, I know it sounds like I'm in the wrong, that he must have a reason to think I am lying about my role so I can succeed or something, but I truly have no idea why he thinks that I am, because I swear that I've never lied about a role before. So basically, I am the only girl who's 20 in my current Dungeons and Dragons campaign, but I don't really mind or feel uncomfortable about it, since all the guys I play with have been nothing but welcoming and chill towards me. They don't ever treat me any differently made comments since I started playing with them about how every female he has played with before always lies about their dice rolls so

Starting point is 00:47:49 they can impress all the guys and look better slash hotter in their eyes, which is a super weird thing to bring up in my opinion. I just started and showed no signs of lying about anything, so I was already kind of weirded out that he felt the need to bring it up or whatever. But whatever. I I I I I I I the the the the the the th the th. I I I kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind the the th. I th. I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm thi, I'm just, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I'm, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, the the the th... I, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. the. the. the. the. theat theat theeat thr-I. theeateat, theeat, thr-I. thea. thea. the. th he felt the need to bring it up or whatever. But whatever. I kind of just brushed it off and said I had played before and that I don't fake dice rolls because that ruins the experience and that the risk of the game and my actions which ruins the game for me and everyone else. The DM seemed to accept that and let it go at the time. However, I have noticed that at least once per session, he will make tha make tham, tham, thus, thus, thus, thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that that I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that thi, that that thi, that that that that thi thi thi thi thi, It's what they are biologically good at and they all lie in games like this to look sexy

Starting point is 00:48:29 to the men there. No one at the table really responds when he makes these comments. One of the guys tried once earlier on to mention that that was a sexist and off-topic thing to bring up, but the DM got mad at being cut from, their, but knowledge, so no one has spoken up about it since. This last session was probably the most risky and dangerous situation the party has been in since the start of the campaign. And there were a few times where I had to roll and lives were on the line if I failed. Somehow I managed to get at least the bare minimum I needed to succeed. Needed a 15 or higher in most cases, since I usually had advantages. Everyone else was having similar luck, though, so I was just hyped that we were rolling lucky that night. I did also have plenty of horrible roles. Got two Nat ones in

Starting point is 00:49:14 a row at one point, L.O.L. 2, so I wasn't, it wasn't as if I was only rolling successes the whole session. But the DM seemed to be getting frustrated more and more with each successful role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role role I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I the the the to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to. I to. I to. I to. I to, I to. I to. I to, I, I, I, I to. I, I I I, I, I, I, I. I, I. I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I th. I th. I th. I thi. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toe. to, to, thi. to, thi. And, I'm, I'm, I'm the, DM seemed to be getting frustrated more and more with each successful role I announced. He made a comment that I thought at the time was a joke. He chuckled and said it was almost like I was faking it to win with how good my luck was my luck was to thoo's the thean. I had been rolling in front of me where everyone could see though nothing so nothing so nothing was hidden. I didn't thin. I didn't th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin. I th th thin. I thin. thin. th thin. thin think thinked thinked thinked the the end of the session, the DM said I had one more save roll to get us out of there, avoiding another fight that would probably end badly for us. I needed a Nat 20 or I would fail. One of my party members assisted, and so I had advantage.

Starting point is 00:49:55 But the the thoads of success were still low. I rolled both dice. I rolled a not everyone was super hyped. The DM just looked mad though, and we all joked that he wanted us to fail so he could show off some more characters he made and do more of the fun combat stuff. He kind of chuckled and said it was something like that. The session then ended calmly with us getting back to our keep. And then we called it a night, everyone packed up and we went our separate ways assuming that was the end of the night I got a message two hours later from the DM and he was telling me he knows I cheated and lied about my dice rolls To look better in front of the guys He said he was nice enough to not call me out

Starting point is 00:50:33 Out there and embarrassed me in front of everyone like he should have to? But that he could no longer trust me. He demanded that I tha the the the the th I the the the the the the the the the thrown the the the the thrown thrown the the the the thrown the the the the the he he he he he he he he he the the the the the he he he he he he he he the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tiee tieeau tien tien tieeau tien tien tien tieeau t since I am proving to be just like every other lying female and ruining the game for all the honest guys who are playing with me. I was stunned I didn't know what to say so I just told him I had never lied that I was sharing dice as one of the guys so they aren't some weighted set or something and that all my roles were in the open where everyone could see that I could understand he may have had bad experiences in the past with players, but I had done nothing wrong and would not be letting him roll for my character the rest of the campaign. He has yet to respond, but I am still so out of touch and insulted that he thought I was cheating or lying. I really like the group I play with and the campaign story is super interesting so I don't

Starting point is 00:51:18 think I'll be quitting. But I certainly am not going to just sit by and not the the the thin. And I and not, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not thin, thin, thin, I'm thin, I'm thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, th. I'm, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to told, to to to told, to to to to to to to to theee., and I don't know what to do in this situation. Edit, for those saying he has a crush on me, yeah. He asked me out when I was a freshman in high school, and he was a senior. We were both in the same clubs, and he seemed nice enough to give a chance to him, so I said, yes. We only dated for about up until about two years ago. We only reconnected because we live in a small town and so we share most of the same friends. He has asked me out three times since then and I have turned him down each time. The last attempt he made at asking me out, I very bluntly told him that he, that if he ever asked me out again I would cut him out of my th.. I th's huge info. Yeah, this guy is a massive asshole.

Starting point is 00:52:07 This makes me so fucking angry. And I'm upset at the other guys in this group to tolerate comments of that magnitude is crazy. Like, they're not going to speak up at all when he says all women fucking lie? Especially being like, they're being like, they're being a massive incel right now. Like, th th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu thu, thu, thu. This, thu. This, thu. This, thu. This, thus thus, thus, thus, thus, thus thus thus, thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thu. This thu. This thu. This thu. This thu. This thu. This thu. This thu. This thu. This thu. This thu. This thu. This thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. And, thi. thi. And, thi. And, thi being like, yeah, all females lie. It's like, bro, you're being a massive incel right now. Really? Like, you're a DM, you're not a fucking God. Also, also, from what we've played and everything, and what I've watched, the whole point is to have a good time. Yeah.

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Starting point is 00:53:29 like, you don't get like sad or upset when you don't hit a roll, it's like that's funny. Yeah, I'm not one. You're literally just telling a story together. Just have a good time. She needs to just not play with this dude. I wish they would all just cut this dude out. But really these friends of his need to tell him to stop. They're not doing anything. And I, he's so manipulated how he texts her later to try to get in more and be like, you know, I just, I really protected you back,there when you were lying and being a woman like what?

Starting point is 00:54:06 If there's a guy that only refers to women as females, I think that he should be put in a huge red flag in a cell. Females. That's so true. This prick sounds very inselly. Don't appease him. Call it out and share it with the group. He wants power over you and by allowing it or minimizing it. he will only get worse he can either. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the their. their. their. their. th. their. th. th. th. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their is is their is their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. th. I. th. I. th. th. th. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the. the the the the with the group. He wants power over you and by allowing it or minimizing it, he will only get worse. He can either realize he is out of order and sort his shit out, apologize and move forward, or he doesn't, and you get a new DM or leave. He is going to lie about your roles if he makes them behind the screen. Don't you dare agree to this insane idea,

Starting point is 00:54:37 or you will have a miserable time. No D&D is better than bad D&D. Also, I wouldn't hesitate for a moment and I would screenshot his accusation and send them to the other players. Lastly, someone said, he doesn't have a problem with other players cheating. Or he doesn't have a problem with players cheating. He has a problem with women. And you most definitely should not give in a game, and the teauthe stupidest thing a DM could probably do in a game mechanically. Update. Oh yes. We condensed it

Starting point is 00:55:09 for time but we got all the important parts in there. But it's still big. Still big. We condensed it because this is all still a big update. I realize I didn't put some background and info in, trying to stay anonymous and all, but I have known DM and two of the guys thi th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. to to to to be their, to be thi. their, their, thea. to, to, to, th. th. th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. the. the, trying to stay anonymous and all, but I have known DM and two of the guys since freshman year of high school when they were both seniors, and DM had sometimes been a nice guy. But he was never this much like an in-cell slash neckbeard, so this behavior was kind of surprising to us, which is why I think they only spoke up once, once, and were kind of confused about it after that. But anyways, on to the actual update on what happened. How it all went down yesterday was not at all what I expected to happen to be honest. I had shown all the other guys I played with the messages that the DM had sent me. I was clear with them that this was not acceptable and that either they supported me and

Starting point is 00:55:54 got the DM to straighten his act them with a different DM if I had to leave and that we would still be friends outside the game and that if I had to leave I would still be friends with them. All of them were appalled at how he had been acting and the messages seemed to be the final straw that broke the camel's back. After showing them all the message they said they had to their too' to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to the the, the the, the the, to be, to the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, tho, to be still, the the, the the, to be still still to be to be to be to be, if to be, if to be, if to be, if to be, and, if to be still, if to be still, and, if, if to be still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still, to be will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will.e, too, too, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, too, the the, too, too, too, too, too, too, their, the clear that they were on my side in this manner. One of the guys got back to me the day before the session and said that they were all behind me 100% and that they all had been calling the DM out the past two weeks since the last session. I guess they were demanding he shape up and explain where this mindset came from and why he was acting like such an ass. Well I decided that since I had support from the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tm.m.m.m.m.m.m.m.m.m.m.m. te.m.m. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to this for this session, but if he made a single comment I was leaving then and there, just walking out and being done with it all. When I got to the place where we were all meeting, the DM asked us to sit down, and he was sounding

Starting point is 00:56:51 really uncomfortable and he wouldn't look anyone in the eye. He said he wanted to talk to us, but we had to sit down first. Well, he went on to tell us about to to to to to to to their to their, to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, th.. the. te.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.m., te. D.m., te. M., te.m., te. D. M., te. D. M., the the the the the tm, that one had dated him for two months before saying she was a lesbian and leaving, that the second one cheated on him with someone from one of his classes, and that the third one, which he says was the breaking point for him, asked to join a game he was deeming for four at his college and ended up hitting it off with one of the guys there and they broke up. I was honest with him that I was sorry he had been thrown. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. He was th. He was, th. He was, th. He was, th. He was, th. thi. He was, th. He was, that I was, that I was, that I was, that I was, that, th. He was, th. He was, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, th. He, the th. He, the the the the the the th. He, the th. He, th. He, th thr-he. He was thr-a. He was thr-a. He was thr-a. He was thr-a. Hea. He was, thr-a. He was, thr-a. He was, thr-hea how he was feeling and how he was hurt, but that none of it was an excuse for how he had been treating me or how he had been speaking, that his behavior was still unacceptable and incredibly cruel and hurtful, and it made me feel unsafe to be around him anymore. The other guys at the group backed me up, saying that as shitty as his situation was, it did not excuse or forgive the way he had been acting. They were clearly behind me, which I'll admit was a huge relief. The DM asked what he had to do to get us to stay, and one of the guys said the main issue

Starting point is 00:57:49 would be earning my trust back and that it was up to me to decide what that meant. And that aside from that, the guys had lost trust in DM and his ability to be fair to all players at the ta' ta. And that he thea' thea' thea' thea' thea' thea'n. And thea'n. And thea'n. And thea'u. And, thea'u. And, their, their, their, too, and too, and too, and their, and too, and to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, and their, and their, and to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, their, their, thea'u. And, thea. And, their. And, their, the thea'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'u. too.the trust back as well as their respect for him as a friend. The DM told me that he had known he was wrong to act and speak like that and that he had been angry and spiteful because of his past experiences and because he was hurt when I turned him down each time he asked me out between his past relationships and after his last girlfriend broke up with him. He said he was taken his anger out on me and venting because it because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because. because it was easy to blame me for it. I was not prepared for this. We didn't end up having a session that night.

Starting point is 00:58:26 DM said he would leave for now and let me think of if, slash, how he could gain all our trust back. So the DM left and the other guys and I honestly didn't know what to do about it. I am considering tellingthat I believe therapy could really help him work through and with all this new stuff, my belief that he could use a good therapist is even stronger now. Sorry it isn't the explosive yelling match ending with one of us storming out of the room in a dramatic climax of the evening like some of you in the comments were saying you wanted to hear about, L-o-l, I kind of expected to be giving, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to to the, I, to the, the, the, th... th. the, th. I, th. I, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-a, thr-s, thr-s, th. th. I, th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. thr-a, thr-a, thro, throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the. th. th. the expected to be giving that update, but here we are. I'll keep you all updated still. We are still planning to meet up at the scheduled time in two weeks

Starting point is 00:59:08 when the next session would be. So the guys and I have two weeks now to think and figure things out. Whoa. Yeah. Okay. Pretty mature. It's like, I don't know, I respect that he apologized and owned up to it, but still like treating someone that shitily for that long when, I don't know, just basically taking out your feelings on them, like, I don't think that she should remain friends with him.

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Starting point is 01:00:17 You know, it's just, it's the tension and stuff is not gonna meet up in two weeks. It's the that's the the the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the, the, the, the, the, the, the tension, the tension, the-the, the tension, the tension, their, their, their, their, their, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the tension, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th.. their, th. their, th. their, th. th. the. the. the. their, their, their, their, their, the the. the. te gonna, they're not gonna meet up in two weeks, and it's gonna be like, great, we can now play. You're playing D&D. That's a game that's very personal, you're, it's vulnerable, hours. Yeah, man, I, if it was like, oh, we're in a soccer league, it's like, all right, or like a softball league, it's like, I guess you can able to be every time she rolls her dice now everyone's gonna be like Yeah, I would just I I agree with you of just I know they live in a small town and stuff but it's like this is this is a lot this guy's a lot he showed up with the three girlfriends story to be like see this is why I did that and you're like oh so you didn't realize why all those three girlfriends left you because you have control issues. There's also the the

Starting point is 01:01:07 element that she's not addressing which I know they only dated for a month like years before but it's like to him she is his ex you know it's like that's loaded to play play D&D with your ex as a DM is like a guy like that I'm sure there's some people who would be fine. Do we th like like like like like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I's th. I's the the the the th. I's th. I's the the thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thee. I's theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. the th like that. I'm sure there's some people who would be fine. Do we think a month of dating is an X? I'm saying, I'm saying to him. No, I'm asking, like, with how much investment he has, I wouldn't necessarily say, it depends. It depends on if you're like in high school and you date for a month, I don't really say,

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Starting point is 01:02:34 She said no. Now let her play D&D and roll her goddamn dice. Why do you these females have to be lying so much? You lied to me. I'm rolling your dice from now on, bitch. Yeah. Satin's 24. It's like, you're not, you're not a teenager. No. You gotta get, you gotta, you gotta get over this shit. Yeah. Ugh.

Starting point is 01:02:55 D and D. What a crazy world. Comes from relationship advice. 24-year-old woman writing in, My boyfriend, who's 27, has disappeared every weekend for the past three years, and I just found out he's been lying to me about where he goes. Uh-oh? Every weekend? Every weekend for three years? You didn't want to check on that? All right.

Starting point is 01:03:23 I just didn't get around to it. Yeah. My boyfriend and I have been together together together together together together together together together together together together together together together together to it. Yeah. My boyfriend and I have been together for three years. We don't live together but are close enough to spend a lot of time together. However, it is very rare for us to spend a whole day together. When we have, it's been a weekday where our schedules have just happened to line the schedule, like no work, and to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, and to to their, and their, and to to to their, and to their, and too, and to their, to their, to their, their, th. too, too, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to th. to to th... th.... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. too, too, too, too. too too too too too tooooooooooooooooooooooooo. too. too. too, tothe weekend together for three years? Damn. He works as a research assistant while getting his PhD. Every single weekend for the three years we've been together, he insists he has work. I realized how stupid I've been now. But foolishly, I trusted him.

Starting point is 01:03:54 I trusted that he had work every single weekend for three years. That was until today. I've been studying for finals, and it's the the the the the the toughest it's ever been, so I was craving some time with him. Just a day where we could kick back and relax with each other. Of course, he says he can't because he's working, and I shut up about it. So today I'm getting antsy anyway and hoping we could at least spend the evening together. I end up texting him,

Starting point is 01:04:15 asking when he thinks he'll be back and if we can spend the the time I'm waiting for a while. After two hours, I decided to text a work friend of his, who's also a research assistant with him. Wouldn't you know it? It turns out they don't have work today. In fact, he informs me in that same text that they rarely ever have work on on weekends. Rarely ever. So now, I'm sitting here wondering what the fuck is going on. I have no idea how to confront him about this. I mean, this has been going on for three years. If he's

Starting point is 01:04:47 been cheating on me, he basically has a second family at this point. But obviously that's where my mind goes and I have no clue what else it could possibly be. Like, is there any possible explanation for this besides cheating? How in the world do I confront him over to his place in the morning and wait and then follow him? Has anyone had anything like this happened to them before? You're going to go to that extreme rather than text him? What's up, bud? I think that's an immediate deal breaker, even if he's not cheating. Yeah. Even if it's just anything, I'm just like, okay, you can't that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's just, that's that's that's that's just, that's It's just it's just done. I'm very curious what's going on.

Starting point is 01:05:25 But why is the first thought follow him? I'm gonna... Come on. So I'm gonna stock him. What's like the funniest thing that it could be? Like imagine he's just really like addicted to video games? Like he just wants to play video games uninterrupted for two days every week? That could be or taking care of an old relative. But do you just say th? I know. Like that's such an endearing thing to tell someone. What is he doing on the weekends? D&D? Yeah. But also, it's just like that's why I'm like anything you're lying about for three years, I just don't think there's a good outcome. Even if it's like you lied to me for three years. Three years. I've said that before about cheating where I'm like the cheating isn't even to me the worst part it's the lying. Yeah. That I'm like that's the deal breaker. That's the ultimate deal breaker because I'm just like that's the ultimate disrespect. Breaking

Starting point is 01:06:14 trust. Yeah this is immediate just over. Comments here. I would just ask him first hey I text thee the th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the the the, I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. theateateateateatea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. th he said, you never work weekends. Even if he's not cheating, he's lying. Don't stalk him, don't play games. OPE said, but what's stopping him from just lying again? Like, even if I confront him, he could just insist that he's working or come up with an excuse. The only proof I have is the trust anything, he says. It's like, how will I get him to tell me the truth? It's like, oh, well, if you have to go to that length, you shouldn't be in a relationship. Just leave him.

Starting point is 01:06:50 Also, yeah, like he said, like, at this point, you don't even the truth. you to you you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. Which I get. I need it. I need it. I personally need it. I don't know. I think we can wrap it up. What? I'm kidding. Can I'm kidding. Someone else said simply text him. I found out I'm done. And see what he confesses to think you know already. I don't mind that. I don't mind that. I'll accept that. Someone said do you spend any holidays together. I'll accept that. Someone said do you spend any holidays together, celebrate your birthdays together, met your birthdays, met his parents, met any other family? Do you give each other gifts? Have you had any discussions about living together or any future?

Starting point is 01:07:29 So many questions that the answers could give a better understanding of your relationship. They've never spent a weekend together for three years. I don't know how you manage a relationship like that. Unless it's like long distance, which it's not, it also three years and you're not going to question it. Even long distance for three years and you never spent a weekend together is crazy to me. Yeah, I agree. I'm just like that's crazy to me. I agree. I get not being able to spend a like I haven't spend a weekend with my husband in a long time because of like bartending stuff, but that's different. But you still see them them them them them them them them them the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. thi thi. thi. th. thi. thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. thee. theeee. theeee. the. the. the. the. the. the. ththat's different. But you still see him on the weekend. Yeah, yeah, I still see him on the weekends and everything. That's totally different.

Starting point is 01:08:09 I know where he is. But like a long time is like, okay, if you go a couple to a few months where it's, but it's like understood why and you're talking about it, like you're still able to to talk on weekends to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk on weekends. working doesn't mean you can't talk or like hang out on at night or something. This is 48 hours straight. This is a lot. This makes me think that she never hangs out with his friends because if she hung out with his friends for one second. I think unfortunately it reads as this is my theory. Yeah it reads to me like she's the other woman and like because it's just like he sees her like once or twice a week maybe for

Starting point is 01:08:46 three years and there's he's lying. It's just like, I kind of agree. She's like by this point he might have another family and I'm like, probably. Seems likely. Or because Reddit goes all over the place, it could be something crazy. But it's like it's reading to me like that. Is it the video games? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. he the. he the. the. to me like that. Is it the video games? No. He's highly ranked on Valoran. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:10 He's top 100 radiant. Um, okay. Update. Oh my God. Here we go. When I logged off, things seem pretty split on what I should do. Most people just decided to call him a cheater or say that I'm the side chick. Frankly, I wasn't sure I could wait another day to confront him, so I confronted him the night of that post. No games are stalking or anything. Anyway,

Starting point is 01:09:31 I had texted him to come over when his work was done and he did. I waited about five minutes, if that, for him to settle in before telling him that we needed to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk the to talk the to talk, the the the to talk, the the to talk, the the to talk, the the to talk, the night, the night, to talk, the night, to talk, to talk, to to to to to to the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, so the night, so the night, so the night, so the night, so the night, so the night, so the night, so the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, the night, toe, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, the night, the night, the night, was a bit demeaning, but that sarcastic response honestly matches his personality. I told him everything that happened, how hurt I was, how I didn't feel like I could trust him about anything, considering he's been doing this for three years, and then asked if he had anything to say. He told me he wasn't cheating on me or anything like that. He was just embarrassed about what he had been doing. I asked him what he could could could could could could could possibly possibly possibly possibly possibly possibly he could could could could possibly th he could possibly th he could could could possibly th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, th, the, th, the, th, th, the, th, the, th, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-a, possibly be so embarrassed about as to hide it and lie to me about it for three years. He takes like a minute to compose himself and then mutters something.

Starting point is 01:10:11 He clearly feels guilty, but I obviously don't hear it, so I ask him what he said because I didn't hear. He tells me that he has volunteered at a homeless shelter every weekend since coming here for his PhD. Oh, he's lying. I'm just so embarrassed that I've been helping the homeless. What did I say? Embarrassing. Oh, sorry. Volunteering at a homeless shelter, I swear to you, whatever emotions are coming

Starting point is 01:10:39 hered that I'm multiplied ten times in the moment. I could not comprehend what he was saying. Like, he was embarrassed for volunteering at a homeless shelter. It didn't, still doesn't, make any sense. So I asked him what he meant, and he repeated that he volunteers at a homeless shelter for six hours on Saturday and six hours on Sunday every weekend. Of course I ask him why he would be embarrassed about that, and he ask if we can talk about this more tomorrow, Sunday, and he can that that that that that that that that that that that that thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me to me to me to me to me to me to me their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toe, the the tha, thae, thau, thau. thau. thau. thau. teau. tea. teau. teau. teau. tea. tea. tea. tea. te. te more tomorrow, Sunday, and he can instead show me that he isn't lying by taking me to volunteer. I don't know what I was really thinking.

Starting point is 01:11:08 I think my mind was just blank, so I agreed and asked him to leave. He apologized for the whole thing and left and then sent a text that he'd picked me up in the morning so he can prove to me, and he wasn't lying. He takes me to a homeless shelter slash soup kitchen, and we make food clean and pack daily necessities for six hours. It clearly isn't the place to have the conversation, so I spent most of my time doing the work, and chatting with other people, and they were really nice. Of course, the whole thing was still weighing on my mind the entire time, so I started asking them about my boyfriend, and they confirmed that he's been working there as long as they remember, and it's there every weekend. He's been there longer than most of them, it seems.

Starting point is 01:11:49 Finally, our volunteering ends and we head back to his car, and I try to start the conversation, but he shuts me down and asked me to wait until we get back to his place. I say, fine. I was just so confused and lost, and we head to his apartment. Once there, the talking begins. He asks if I believe that he's telling the truth about working at the homeless shelter every weekend, and I say that I do since I confirmed it with a lot of people while there, but I also said that I don't understand the lying, especially for as long as he did. He apologizes again and asks if I really want to know why he's, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, the, to, the, to, the, the, to, to, the, the, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and, and, and I's, and, and, and, and, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the the the the the the the the the the the the to, is. too, is. too, too, I. too, too, too, and I. too, and I. too, and I's. too, too, is?e. too, is. too, is. of course, duh. He sighs and then tells me that he doesn't like people knowing that he likes helping people. Obviously I'm going, what the fuck, because this is so weird and I ask him to explain. He tells me that when he was an undergrad student, he would always try to help his class behind the scenes by discussing problems they had or negotiating for curves or extensions on their assignments on their assignments even, even, even, even, even He said he enjoyed doing it and kept doing it as a master student, but then started to do so before slash after classes publicly.

Starting point is 01:12:49 Apparently most of his classmates were still happy with him, but a few basically hated him for it because he was babying them or something. So he went back to doing things behind the scenes and no longer tries to associate himself, associate with any of the things he does to help others. Hopefully, I'm not the only one who finds this so dang weird, like the homeless shelter stuff and assisting your classmates aren't remotely the same. I say as such, and he tells me it does the same thing. It helps people so he doesn't like people to know about it because they might

Starting point is 01:13:18 misinterpret his intent and think he's masquerading as a good person. Then he assures me that he's not a good person at all, but he still wants to do what he can for people, so this is what he does. What the fuck? So I ask if he really thinks I would get mad that he's helping homeless people in his free time. He tells me he wasn't sure at first, thus, he tellain, thi. th. couple does. So he just lied to hide it at first, but he knows I wouldn't do that now,

Starting point is 01:13:48 but kept the lie going because he thought it would be too weird to suddenly say that he's volunteering at a homeless shelter. I feel like I've come to the conclusion that he's just really, really weird. His way of thinking has always been odd, but this isn't in particular just so weird. Like he seems to understand the situation and where I'm coming from, but didn't think to tell me the truth on his own? We started going in circles and I ended the conversation and had him drive me home in silence. Since then he sent a number of texts and has tried to call me a few times. I didn't pick up on Monday or Tuesday because I felt like I felt likedark. picked up today and we had a talk in which we both reiterated what he had said. I know a lot of people, literally all of them at this time, were telling me

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Starting point is 01:14:54 It's like a night and shining arm. I'm not a good person. I... I... I've said it before and I do believe like doing good things in private. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. I, thi. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, tha. I, tha. I, tha. I, tha. I'm, tha. I'm, tha. I'm, tha. tha. I'm, tha. tha. tha. tha. I, tha. thousands. I've said it before and I do believe like doing good things in private and not telling one is like a important thing to do. Yeah it's good. But a relationship is about trust and not having secrets of a magnitude and even if you're doing something good and it's hard it's not only harmless it's a good thing. If you're not telling your partner that's still deceit, it's a good thing. If you're not telling your partner,

Starting point is 01:15:26 that's still deceit, it's still a secret. It's still, because what you're communicating to her in those three years is, I don't trust you and I don't, I don't trust how you're gonna react to this. It's like, you're gonna keep it a secret forever? Like, I don't know. It's really great what he's doing. It's great. It's the best thing. It's so great, but it's also like your person also needs you and you're lying to them and they want to spend time with you.

Starting point is 01:15:52 It's very sad because I feel like if I was her I'd be like, okay, I love you and also I would have volunteered with you all these years. For three years we could have been doing this together and imagine where their relationship would be at this point. Like I don't know it's crazy to say but a part of me thinks this is a huge deal breaker. Because I'm like I'm like yeah man like you're a hero that's awesome. You're lying. But you lied and you don't want to spend, it makes me feel like he doesn't want to spend time with her or he doesn't want to loop her into this other part of his life but it's, I don't know, like you can have free time or independence but you can't fucking lie about it forever. Not to her, I understand what he's saying like, okay, with other people

Starting point is 01:16:39 they resented him for it, okay, but this is supposed to be the person that you trust won't resent you for things like that Yeah, it's so weird like if I'm him and I feel that way I want to tell her as soon as possible because if she is someone who's gonna react in a weird way, which why would she that's insane? But if she did react and be like, oh, why do you? thrown? to thrown. that's, thr-I I. that's, thr-I. thr-I. thr-I. thr-I. thr-I. thr-I. thr-I. thr-I. thr-I's, thr-I's, thr-I's-I's thr-I's thr-I's thr-I's thr-I's tho. thin. thin. thin' thin' thin' thi. thi. thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's that's th. It's that's that's that's that's that's thi. It's thi. It's-I's-I's-I's thi. It's-I's-I's-I's thr-I's-a. It's thr-a-a-a-a-a-a-s. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, throooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo'-a. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's then I wouldn't want to be with her. And so it's like why would you want to figure that out early rather? That's one of those things and if it had been like oh after dating for like a few months it was like here's this thing I do, it's like. And she was like, wow, this is so cool. But also if I was her, I would.

Starting point is 01:17:30 It's such a hard. I'd be so flabbergasted. It's such a hard adjustment. I don't know. Because, because once again, the problem with lying is even thii. It was all fine, he wasn't cheating, you're now like, well, he's so capable of holding a secret for three years. Yeah. If he does decide to cheat, he'll be damn good at it.

Starting point is 01:17:48 Yeah. Like, that's what's tough is, trust is hard to build back, man. Yeah. Well, she said there wouldn't be another update, but there is. Oh my God. Huge. Huge. Huge. Okay. It's another another doozy. So I asked him to come over so we could talk and he did. I then asked him some questions people had on here that I had written

Starting point is 01:18:12 down. Volunteering for six hours but still not having time for me, he said he would get there a little early and leave late, but would then spend the remaining hours running errands and actually working on PhD slash assistant stuff. I asked if he could give me details. He gave me some details about academic articles that I don't remember. I asked why he couldn't spend more weekend evenings with me if that was the case. He said that he was really busy with work and that I would distract him. Ouch. Out of all the things said I think this is the one that bothers me the most. I asked if the volunteering was court ordered. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. the the the the the the told. told. the told. told. told. to the to to the th. the th. th. th. I was thi. thi. the the the th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm t t t t t t t te. te. te. toe. tod te. te. toda. te. toda. toda. today today today today. ordered. He laughed at that and was clearly confused by the question, but answered that given the special population he works with doing his PhD, he doubts he'd be able to work with them if he had a record that required so many hours.

Starting point is 01:18:54 I asked if he was ever going to tell me about the volunteering. He initially says he doesn't know, then replies that whether he was working or volunteering doesn't make a difference to how much time he spent with me. Obviously, I pushed back on this and he got defensive and we had an argument that basically reiterated how I felt like I couldn't trust him because he was lying about this while he kept apologizing for the lying, making me feel that way, but that it wouldn't have changed how we spend time together. Ultimately, I asked him to explain to me again, the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, thui, thui, tho, thui, thr. tho, thr. thr. thruth, thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thui, thui, thui, thui, thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. He, thu. He, thu. He, thu. He, thu. He, thu. He, thu. He, thu. He, thu. He, thu. He, thu. He, thr. He, thr. He, thru. He, thru. He thru. He thru. He thruu. He thruuu. He thruu. Obviously, thru. Obviously, thru. Obviously, thr to explain to me again why he hid it in the first place. Like he said previously, he used to talk to professors during undergrad about extensions and questions, others had behind closed doors and then make sure those things were stated to the rest of the class. He did the same things,

Starting point is 01:19:38 he did the same him about their grades. So he thought he could show them that he was willing to discuss grades and he made a joke about his own grade in class. The professor didn't find it funny and went on a tirade about respect and showing him up, and apparently the class ended shortly thereafter because it was so tense. He said that some of the other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other students students students students students students students students the other students the other said that some of the other students felt like they needed to cut ties with him to show the professor they weren't in on the joke, and that a few of them made a show of hating him from that point forward. Hearing it more in depth, at least makes this make a little more sense to me. I stated again that helping homeless and helping classmates seems like an entirely different thing altogether. He said that they felt like the same to him, but that I was probably right and he was wrong. I asked him why he said he's a bad person.

Starting point is 01:20:27 He replied asking if he said that, and I said yes. He said that he didn't want the volunteering to make him seem like a good person because he's not. I asked what he meant, and he replied that I know him. I said, I'm not sure I do. He said that I know what he means, I that I that I know what he means, I know what he means, I that I know what he means, I that I that I that I that I know what he means, I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I know what he that I know what he that I that I that I that I that I know what he that I know that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he th th th th th th th th th thi th thi th thi th thi th thi th thi thi thi thi thi that that he that he that. in circles. Personally, I think he has low self-esteem, but this is a weird way to express it, and I'm not sure what else it could be. I told him I wasn't sure I wanted to continue the relationship because of the lying. He seemed hurt, but then just said,

Starting point is 01:20:55 okay, and that it's my decision. I told him that he should at at at he won't. After that, I gave him an ultimatum. Either spend more time with me on weekends and go to therapy or we break up. I told him to think about it and that he has until Saturday. He said he would and he went on his way. He's like, thought about it, no. Yeah, I'm like, cool. You're volunteering, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're volunteering, you're that, you're that, cool, you're that, cool, cool, that, cool, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm, I'm like, I'm like, I to. to to to. to. to. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, told're volunteering. That is a, that is a really awesome action to be doing for such a long period of time.

Starting point is 01:21:28 That's incredible and honorable. And I respect that. You're being so disrespectful to your partner. As a partner, you're doing a dog shit job. Yeah. Like, completely separate thing, and you're failing at it so miserably. In this conversation, in this conversation, he just doesn't feel she deserves any sort of information or truth. It would just be over. I just think, and I think it seems like she's done with it.

Starting point is 01:21:55 As much as what a giving act that he's doing by volunteering, he seems very self-absorbed when it comes to her, where it's just like he's so focused on his own life and his own journey, he does not care what she thinks, how she feels, or her experience. He's just like, this is what I'm doing, and it's like, dude, just be single. Just be single. It's, to me, it's clear, it's like he volunteers all day and then goes and works on his research. to me, he's avoiding her. I'm just just saying I won't go to therapy is that's it that's that's I probably would never told you the truth and I won't go to therapy that's a deal breaker yeah if if you're in a relationship with it was someone and you say hey I think you should go to therapy and they go I will not go to therapy I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I I'm I I I I'm I'm I'm I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm I'm I I I I'm I'm I'm that I'm that I'm tel I'm tel I'm tel I'm tel I'm tel I'm tel I'm tel I'm tel tel tel tel tel tell tel tel tell tell tel tell tel tel I'm tel I'm that I'm that's a huge red flag. Yeah. Me personally, I don't need therapy, but I definitely agree with you.

Starting point is 01:22:46 Oh my God. There's another update. Oh my God. She's like, I'm not going to update. Last update. No more after this, I swear. He asked me to compromise. He would take a day off from volunteering if I volunteered with him the other day and he wouldn't have to go to therapy. I said I needed to think about it. I told him later that

Starting point is 01:23:07 night that I'd accept the compromise if he was willing to go to one therapy session. On Sunday morning he told me that he wouldn't be willing to go to therapy and asked that we go out to dinner. We went to a local diner and basically their and basically their and basically their their their their and basically their thiner and basically thiner and basically thinin and basically thin and basically thin and basically thin and basically thin, thin, thi thi and basically thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I I thi, I I thi, I I I I thi, I I thi, I I I thi, I the, I I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I thi, thi, thi, thr-au-iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. tol-au-a, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi,this way and said that he knew he wasn't exactly being reasonable, but he's doing what he feels like he needs to do. I basically said that's up to him. We wished each other the best. He gave me a parting hug and I went on my way. So yeah, three years of commitment for this. Kind of sucks. Have a good day. Yeah. That's unreal. Have a good day. Yeah. Who have a good day. Yeah. Who? Who? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. I. Yeah. I. I. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. I. that. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th., I've... God. Okay. Yeah. It's sad. I don't understand how he bases this whole thing, like this whole lie on the idea that like I don't want it to seem like I'm trying to be a good person, but then he's

Starting point is 01:23:55 completely unwilling to try and work on himself. Yes. Like it's obvious that he doesn't think that he's a bad person. He thinks that he is a good person doing good things and doesn't have anything to work on. Yes. It almost, it becomes unimportant of whether you're a good or bad person. It's just like, hey, you need to communicate. Yeah. I need to talk. You need to be honest. I think, unfortunately, and I think she made the absolute right move by getting out of this, even though he's the one who sounds like he ended it, because I feel like there's just an infinite amount of bullshit that's going to be dug up.

Starting point is 01:24:32 Yeah. It's just like this, the best word she used to describe him is honestly, I'm like, yeah, he's weird. He's being really weird. It's being, dude, you're not, you're not doing anything rational, you're not being honest, you're not communicating, you're not being respectful, you're being weird as hell. Also to like refuse that you'll never go to therapy therapy? That's such a crazy thing to say. Okay. Yeah, if you're begging your partner to go to one therapy session, you need to be ending. No, yeah, yeah, exactly. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their th. th. the. the. the. thease. theatease. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. walk away. Damn. Damn, liars. Lying sucks.

Starting point is 01:25:06 Friking liars. Dude, this was awesome. Trevor is a big fat liar, so that's why. Yeah, just a huge liar. Great film. That's why I said it. My big fat Greek liar. Just kidding.

Starting point is 01:25:19 Hey, this was a weird time. Yeah. Same. Hey. It's been an honor. Let's do it like this because it's weird. It's been a pleasure. Thank you both for being here. Thank you for having us. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:25:35 We know it was your choice to put us here. to keep us here. You're in this moment, in this moment. Oh, than. Thank you for that. on this planet in this moment. Oh my god, you're making it so much weirder. Dude, I thought that was the poem. Right tom! Well, check out the hat, go to Smosh.com.

Starting point is 01:25:52 We've got a hat, we've got a tote bag too. Update. Good stuff. Update. We have a hat and want to see here. Liars, great theme. And we'll see you next Saturday. See you next Saturday. Bye.

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