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Some messes you can't clean up! 0:00-1:05 Intro 1:06-11:06 My “husband’s” mistress thinks he’s richer than he actually is and I’m keeping silent https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comm...ents/1auve96/i_think_my_husbands_mistress_thinks_he_is_richer/?share_id=YikpOLrDE0QadQswD-CV6&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1  11:07-23:37 TIFU by agreeing to a threesome with my best friend https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/15cfph1/tifu_by_agreeing_to_a_threesome_with_my_best/  23:38-36:21 My ex lied about having a child and I’m being called heartless for not staying with him https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoHotTakes/comments/1cotb9x/ex_lied_about_having_a_child_and_im_being_called/  36:22-44:38 TIFU by cancelling my roommate’s favorite TV show https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/16c315r/tifu_by_canceling_my_roommates_favorite_tv_show/  44:39-55:22 AITA for telling my husband he’s too broke to be sexist? https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/1d53lbi/aita_for_telling_my_husband_hes_too_broke_to_be/  55:23-1:20:44 AITA for asking my friends what flavor their wedding cake is? https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/1cuom9a/aita_for_asking_my_friends_what_flavor_their/  SUBSCRIBE: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshPit WEAR OUR JOKES: https://smosh.com WHO YOU HEAR Shayne Topp // https://www.instagram.com/shaynetopp/ Amanda Lehan-Canto // https://www.instagram.com/filmingamanda/ Angela Giarratana // https://www.instagram.com/angelagiovanagiarratana/ WHO YOU DON’T HEAR (usually) Director: Emily Rose Jacobson Editor: Vida Robbins Director of Programming, Smosh Pit: Emily Rose Jacobson Associate Producer, Smosh Pit: Bailey Petracek Production Designer: Cassie Vance Art Director: Erin Kuschner Art Coordinator: Alex Aguilar, Josie Bellerby Audio Mixer: Scott Neff Director of Photography: Brennan Iketani Videographer: James Hull Assistant Director: Alexcina Figueroa Director of Production: Amanda Barnes Production Manager: Alexcina Figueroa Production Coordinator: Zianne Hoover Operations & Production Coordinator: Oliver Wehlander Production Assistant: Ovsana Tsaturian Post Production Manager: Luke Baker DIT/Lead AE: Matt Duran IT: Tim Baker Director of Design: Brittany Hobbs Graphic Designers: Ness Cardano, Monica Ravitch Senior Manager, Channel & Strategy: Lizzy Jones Channel Operations Coordinator: Audrey Carganilla Director of Social Media: Erica Noboa Social Creative Producer: Peter Ditzler, Tommy Bowe Social Strategist: Mallory Myers Social Media Coordinator: Kim Wilborn Talent Coordinator: Selina Garcia Operations PA: Katie Fink CEO: Alessandra Catanese EVP of Programming: Kiana Parker Coordinator Producer of Programming: Marcus Munguia Executive Coordinator: Rachel Collis OTHER SMOSHES: Smosh: https://smo.sh/Sub2Smosh Smosh Games: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshGames El Smosh (Spanish Dub): https://smo.sh/Sub2ElSmosh SmoshCast: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshCast FOLLOW US: TikTok: https://smo.sh/TikTok Snapchat: http://smo.sh/OnSnapchat Instagram: https://instagram.com/smosh Facebook: https://facebook.com/smosh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:45 Welcome back to Reddit stories. I'm Shane, and today's theme is all about the mess. We got some messy stories here. And with me are two of the messiest people I've ever known. Angela and Amanda. There they are pretending bringing the drama. Shut up, Dad, you're crazy. But what would you do if we were asleep?
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Starting point is 00:01:46 Look, these stories are going to get messy, so let's get ready. Here we go. Our first story. This comes from True Off My Chest, also was posted on spilled-spiced tea. A Reddit I've never heard about. But I'm guessing it's for... Spilled tea. Here we go. I think my husband's mistress thinks he is richer than he actually is.
Starting point is 00:02:12 My best friend thinks I am a douche because I am keeping silent. Husband, in quotation marks, because we are not married legally. Throw away, please let me vent here. He's 39. I'm 39. Mistress is 29. My best friend is 39. We have been together for 14 years living together for 11. So much exposition. Yeah I know. Is there four people? So there's four people involved. So she's talking about her husband. She says we've been together for 14 years living together for 11. He came and told me that he was in love about three weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I was surprised the lack of fucks I had to give at receiving such information. I did love him, but maybe my love has always been conditional, and its survival depends on it being reciprocated because it literally vanished the second he confessed to me that he was in love with another woman. He didn't want a separation separation separation separation separation separation separation separation separation separation separation separation separation separation, to separate, to to separate, to be to be to be to be to be to be a the to be, the the to, the the the to, the the the the the toe, the the to, the to, their, the the the their, to, to, their, their, the the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and, the the, and, and, the the the the the the the the the love with another woman. He didn't want a separation but to maybe open the relationship or let his feelings for her subside. I said it was over. It was like I never had feelings for him ever. He was taken aback by my indifference, which I thought, the audacity. Did he want me to be hurt and suffer? I told him that he should be relieved that he didn't cause pain. Instead, he has been sulking thi th th and his mistress was there, sitting in my kitchen, sipping my tea.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I felt nauseous because, seriously? I told him that this wasn't civil at all and to never be in my home again or I would call the cops. I went to my room and I heard her yelling at him for not standing up for her. Then I heard her voice whispering, later. We can discuss this later. She left and he came to me apologizing. He said, we didn't have sex here if this is what you're scared of.
Starting point is 00:03:53 She just dropped by because I was working from home today. I told him that he had until the end. This morning I changed all the locks. From now on, he isn't allowed in my place during my working hours, so if he starts later or finishes earlier, he needs to wait for me to come home and let him in. But his mistress's words stuck with me, so during the weekend, I have been stocking her social media. I think she thinks that he is rich, or at least that he owns my apartment. I thinks that my parents' summer house and boat are his, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I, I, and, and, and, I's, and, and, I's, and, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, he, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thr-a, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s.eea''''ea'ea'ea'ea'ea'ea, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s also thinks that my parents' summer house and boat are his. Unfortunately, the loser has taken her there, probably bragging about his wealth because her hashtags were all about the good life. I was telling my best friend all of this, but she was more agitated than indignant on my behalf. She told me that he was scum not telling mistress the truth. I agreed. I was dumbfounded But she was serious. I told that this wasn't my job to bring back mistress to earth
Starting point is 00:04:49 My best friend got very angry and demanded that I give her mistress's username So that she could warn her no, I said she called me a bigger douche than he is then. I don't know what's going on with these people. Have they gone mad or have I? When did our moral compass go askew like this? Can someone tell me that I am not insane? What a crazy situation? I also love that it's just mistress. Mistress. Mistress. I know, mistress. So mistress is there. The mistress clearly thinks he's rich, but he's using all of her things bragging about it. But why the moral compass needing to be about? No, the friend is weird. The wife is like, you have to warn him. The friend, the friend is saying,
Starting point is 00:05:32 the friend's saying, you need to tell the mistress that he's actually not rich. Exactly. I don't understand what that. You don't have to be warned about, right? Like, I think if he was like crazy or dangerous or something, it's like, you should tell her that he's crazy. He's like, he steals money. No, he's just, he's, like, she's also hopping into a really messy situation, knowing that he's married or in another relationship.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Like, if already you know someone's kind of a liar and a backstabber in that kind of way, you can't be too surprised if it turns out they're lying to you about something. This is messy. It's just super messy, but like all these people are kind of willingly, like, or the mistress is kind of willingly in this weird situation. She needs, she's doing the right thing by just kind of pushing it all away. Really? I think that she should talk to both of them at the same time and go, I just want to get this straight. You guys know that that house is mine. And this apartment is mine.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I guess I support that only in case this gets trickier if he continues to pretend, and that's going to be more invasive of her life. She doesn't owe tho tho she tho she doesn't tho she doesn't tho she doesn't tho she doesn't tho she life. You know, she doesn't owe anyone anything, but like doing it as a means of just like. But if they're going to her house. Oh, yeah. She's, I think she's assuming that they've gone there, maybe not. The good life?
Starting point is 00:06:56 What a cringesthash. I don't understand. She likes rich things because the hashtag the hashtag the tha is is is? I've never understood, I've never understood like, there's a lot of times people don't understand, they don't know that they are the other person, right? Yeah. I'm like, okay, I understand that. But to willingly go and be like, oh, this person's married and I'm with them and I'm going to be in a relationship with them. I'm like, that's to me I've always thought that's a little crazy me too sometimes it's not the person it's not the mistress's fault but that person that they're dating could make them feel like they're the only one is just kind of really love bombing them telling or just like you're actually
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Starting point is 00:08:13 Is the friend... Oh, is the friend friends with the mistress? You know, she sounds like just a very strong morals in her own way, and she feels very strongly about it. That's fine to believe that she should tell the mistress, but to say you're worse than your husband who's literally having an affair and all this stuff is... Does the friend have an affair with the husband before? Maybe she was like, I fell for the boat? Yeah. I don't want her to fall into the house. A bunch of comments here. that. woman had been completely unaware he was married, telling her would be the
Starting point is 00:08:46 right thing to do. However, she clearly went into this relationship with your husband knowing he's married, so fuck her. She can find out the hard way. O.P responded, oh, she knows who I am since she works with him and he wears a wedding band. Someone else said, your soon to be the, the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, the the the the the their, the to, to be, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th th th th the, thi, the, the, tho, th th th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, friend. Imagine sticking up for the mistress rather than trying to make you feel a bit better. Whether or not you are devastated, you may end up feeling it later on or not at all, but regardless, your friend should be there for you.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I'm sure you're getting your ducks in a row. I'd reconsider this he could argue with you about it, they can live in squalor together. Opie said, yeah, I was actually very hurt by her not being indignant on my behalf. It stinks. I have always been on her side during all her breakup since we were teenagers. Damn her, really. It stinks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:37 The last time I've said it's missing me. Lastly, someone said she was upset because she actually believes she's, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th.......................... She's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thii. thiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. was upset because she actually believes she has already won. He told her it's his apartment and that he will be kicking you out ASAP. She thought she was sitting in her new apartment at her kitchen table. She actually thought you were the outsider. I can't wait for her to find out the truth. Please update us when this shit hits the fan. And congratulations on standing up for yourself. This is the most satisfying post I've read all day. Whoa. I will say it's interesting her talking about like as soon as she, as soon as she found out he was having an affair, she's like, I just lost all feeling and I don't care.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I'm like, that is like a response. What is that about? That is a real response to some people have. But it's like, that think it's hitting her probably more than she's realizing. It's easy when you get on and you write to be like, I didn't feel anything and I don't feel anything. It's like, do you or do you say it? And then all night you check the comments? Yeah, it hits in different ways for people.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Someone also said, Your friend sucks for caring more about the woman who chose to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the woman, and I, and I, and I'm, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the.. I, I, I, I, I having suspicions now about how her and her husband's relationship started to be honest. He was married once before, but from what we understood at the time, he was divorced way before she met him. Now I'm not sure, or why would she be so empathetic to mistress? Ah. Yeah, the best friend is his ex-wife. No, no, no, no. The best friend...
Starting point is 00:11:05 Hey, this is messy. We're going to figure this out. No, sorry, the Opie is saying that her friend, her friend's husband was married before, so she thinks her best friend might have been a mistress. At one point. Wait, oh, her best friend is relating to the mistress. So it's not as complicated as we made as we we we we we wea as we wea as we th as we tha as we tha as we made as we made as we made as we made as we made as we made as we made relating to the mistress. To the mistress, oh it's not as complicated as we made it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:25 No, that's what she's saying. She's like, oh, maybe this was a situation she had lived through. A mistress knows a mistress. A mistress supports a mistress. A mistress can find a mistress in the life. I can't wait. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Yeah. Get out of here. Um, but guys we're moving on to, oh, we're moving on to it. That's it? To a hitter? Wait, wait, wait, what are we moving on to? As someone who's been on Reddit a long time, these types of posts I have seen all the time. Oh my god, here the ta. It is a tale as old as time I think. It's. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toe. thi. thi. thi. thi. toe. thi. toe. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's that's that's the. to to to. It's a tale as old as time, I think, in general, unfortunately. Here we go. It comes from the subreddit, Today I fucked up. Oh, guys stupid idiot. No, it's the tale as oldest time. Get ready. Today I fucked up by agreeing to a threesome with my best friend. Oh. Oh. Damn that's old time. That's a Disney movie. Truly, truly. Three sums. I have seen this post, similar types of posts so many times, and they are always so similar
Starting point is 00:12:34 that the comments are all at this point, just like, well, here we go again. It's a couple bringing in one of the best friends. Let's see, because it's... Let's see. No, I think this best friends. Let's see because it's... Let's see. I mean it might be different. Might be messier. I think this somehow might be worse. No it's it's always it's always seems like it goes wrong. I could be good. I a 19 year old woman and my best friend. Eva a 19 year old woman have been inseparable since fifth grade. Her and I are polar
Starting point is 00:13:02 opposites. I'm mixed on the shorter side with brown eyes and hair and a bit chunky, I'll admit, while Eva is white, blonde hair, green eyes with a lanky athletic build. She's very extroverted, I'm on the shy side. She's the one that got all the boy's attention. I was the supportive best friend. I've always thoughts she was the most attractive attractive attractive attractive attractive attractive been watching a lot of threesome porn and started having thoughts about being
Starting point is 00:13:26 with another girl. I'm bisexual myself and I'm pretty shy when it comes to sex as I only lost my virginity last year and have had one sexual partner since. Eva again is the exact opposite. She's been sexual since her early teens and has been open about her sex life. We have always joked about being gay for each other. We give each other a quick peck on the lips when we have to go after hanging out. And we even made a pack that if we're not married by 30, we'll marry each other. So this led to me jokingly saying
Starting point is 00:13:53 that we should have a threesome with someone to find out if she's by or not. She seriously agreed, which I obviously didn't turn down. We decided to make a Tinder account with both of us explaining how we just want someone, preferably a guy, as per her request, to join us with no strings attached. After finding a suitable match, we met up beforehand to explain the boundaries and rules we talked about. The next day would be when it all happened. For me, it was a great experience, and afterwards, Eva agreed. Now, as much as me and Eva are opposite, one thing we absolutely do have in common is our taste and men.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Now. I don't want to sound pretentious, but I do feel the man paid a bit more attention to me than Eva. Later, the guy we were intimate with gave me his number afterwards. I thought he did the same with her. This is where it all falls apart. After the fact, she said she knew she said no strings attached, but she wanted to see the guy again. I of course told her to go for it, but when she checked on Tinder to message him, he was unmatched.
Starting point is 00:14:55 She wasn't too happy about it. I just said to text him and she said she didn't have his the number the number the number the number the number the number to have his number. Confused, I said, well, he gave it to... I have it. Yeah, confused, I said, well, he gave it to me. She got absolutely furious saying how that was selfish and rude that I was trying to keep him for myself and I wanted too much attention from men. I tried to explain that I thought he had also given her his number, but she wouldn't listen. We haven't had a fight this big ever. She hasn't called her text me back since then. I feel like such a bad friend for letting a random person come between us like that. I will admit I did text the guy telling him the situation and we have had a couple of conversations since. I just don't want eight years of friendship going down the drain, especially
Starting point is 00:15:36 if it's my fault. It's not your fault. It sounds like all those times that she was a supportive friend and got the guys. It sounds like she never even let you get the guys. Or she's never, she's not used to not being the chosen one. This threesome went very differently than most other. Me too. Most posts. Hey what? Stop. I thought you were going to say it's this way. Hey what? Stop that. Hey what?
Starting point is 00:16:05 And I won't say to cut it out. You can leave it in because it's a simple mistake. I thought you were going to say, this threesome went very differently than the way I thought. The way I thought that this threesome is going. Oh, don't do that. thought we were getting into. This is different. We thought, because most, most stories are about a couple, who then have a threesome and they always choose someone that they know. Yeah, never. And it always goes wrong. Choose a no name, off the street. The problem, the call
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Starting point is 00:17:32 It is? That's a Michael Scott quote. the second, I don't think life advice you should take from an acting coach. We're analyzing a plate. It's me, your acting teacher, life is sex. The sex is power. But I think this has nothing to do with the girls, which who I thought were in love. I think it has to do with that girl and her ego being damaged.
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Starting point is 00:18:26 He liked her. One girl got a call back, the other one day. She needs to... Call back! I think unfortunately at 19, it's like, you need to re-evaluate. Castles is up. Because this friend is going to continue to seem to agree. Yeah. That's freaking garbage. You didn't let a dude come between you. She did.
Starting point is 00:18:46 She got mad that he preferred you. You weren't trying to keep him. You encouraged her to go for it. She should be happy for you, not mad at you. Six thousand up votes. Someone said, you did nothing wrong. to give her some time toooo, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, th, th, and,term friends always sucks and I hope she comes around. It sucks. Lastly, someone said, I do not want to drive a deeper wedge into your friendship, but just
Starting point is 00:19:09 ask yourself this question. Has your friend, consciously or unconsciously, been friends with you only because she feels better about herself when she's around you? Because according to you, you've always been encouraging towards her, and she always had all the attention and she is she now is not able to digest it the minute you are getting a little attention over her. That's a good one. And there you could read into a lot of like why she wanted to have a threesome with her is just like is it this thing of wanting to feel better like yeah would she have a threesome with anyone else who she thought was like maybe hotter than her.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah and look and, I think she underestimated like a lot of guys like the male gays is different than what she probably thought and it's just like this guy was into her friend. It was into the O.P. And this friend cannot handle it. I don't know, this guy they both like that was both their type was into O.P. You imagine going on Tinder and seeing that post? We just want a guy, no strings attached, two hot girls. Can you imagine their inbox? Back when I was single, I'd be like, I'm going to get murdered.
Starting point is 00:20:14 That's a murderer. Yeah. Wow, I'm glad I'm not a dude. I probably would have died in, that's awesome! Well, in this case, it would have worked out. I actually would have been great. O.P. said, in response to that last one, I personally don't think so. She's been just as helpful and encouraging to me in the past.
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Starting point is 00:21:11 like it was like the hot girl was like the one that called the shots and made the things and it just seems like she was the it girl girl girl and then all of a sudden she wasn't yeah I don't relate I don't relate I to the I the I the I the I the I th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the the th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. had those types of friend dynamics. Yeah, I think it was like girl world in high school. And it was just like rough. It's not just in high school. Yeah, in college too. I think a lot of people are. I think it could be, it's not as much now, but it's definitely a thing.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I always had groups of friends that were boys and girls when I was younger. I think th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi of friends that were boys and girls when I was younger. I think that was in the acting world. There was so many girls that I was friends with a lot of girls. So my, the dynamics were just not the same. I never had like a group of brows that I hung out with. But it is a little bit like mean girls where it's like the hot one, it's like, get in loser. She's the one who owns the cars, the cars, to to to the to to to to thoes, thi, loser. We're going shopping. Like, she's the one who owns the car. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Or people who went to high school attractive. Sometimes just start life being like, I'm incredible. I think, I think also if you get that type of attention in high school, it builds this confidence that not a lot of people get to build at a young age. So when you start to build it, build it, it's so strong that when you have a friend who doesn't necessarily have it and kind of attributes their confidence to that friend, they almost feel like they owe them something. Yeah, well there's a difference in ego. If that girl was confident, having a guy not like her and like her friend shouldn't affect
Starting point is 00:22:40 her well-being and her. Like she should just be like, oh, I'm still attractive, cool, and awesome, even if this guy I was into doesn't like me. It actually feels like she's very insecure. Yeah, it sounds like it's not confident. It's actually, all of her value is in men who like her, where is this, this girl is like, I'm enjoying my life, I'm enjoying my friend. She's certain to build her confidence in a confidence confidence confidence confidence, it might also be a thing because I also think what happens probably with people, this is really reading into it, I have no proof
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Starting point is 00:23:54 Exactly. And then like I think it's very silly to me. And you're like wait all my, there's not the hot one we're all hot right.. It's like all all all all all all all all, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. all and it's not like this young, like very childish way of thinking. Yeah, for sure. Anyways, messy. No update? No update? I mean, damn. Hopefully it all. I wanted to know. Amanda, some of these aren't going to have an update, okay? Yeah, but I'm gonna ask every time to make sure. Our next story comes from the two hot takesakes, takes, takes, takes, takes, takes, takes, takes, takes, takes, takes, takes, takes, takes, takes, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to me, to me, to me, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. tho, tho, that, that, that, tho, thoo, the the the thoooooo, the, thooooooooo. tha, tha, tha, tha, thtime of it just to make sure. Our next story comes from the Two Hot Takes Subred, our friend Morgan Apsher over at Two Hot Takes Show. Uh, X lied about having a child and I'm being called Heartless for not staying with him in his time of need. Did he lie about being a dad or not being a dad? Yeah. I, a 24 year old woman, okay. Met my 26-year-old man X, last year, and we started? th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tak, at to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to-in, to-in, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, took, took, took, took, took took took took they-a, took they-a, their the took took the took took too-h.2-a-h-h-h-a-hau-a-ha-ha-ha-ha-h-h-old woman, met my 26-year-old man, X, last year, and we started dating in December.
Starting point is 00:24:51 This was posted in May, May 10th. So they met and started dating in December. Before we started dating, I told him that I did not want kids ever. I don't want the responsibility of a child. My mom still hasn't accepted it and I'm always told I'll change my mind but I've never felt maternal. I've known since I was 16 that being a mom slash parental figure was not for me. People always tell me I'll change my mind. He asked if I would date someone with a child and I told him I would not date anyone with a child because that th. wanted. He agreed and said he didn't want kids either. Things were great until about two weeks ago, I spent the night over at his house for the
Starting point is 00:25:30 first time and he seemed really fidgety with me being there. Uh-oh. Kephahmah. I asked if there was anything wrong and he said no. I went to his kitchen to get a drink and I saw a... Sippy cup? I went to his kitchen to get a drink and I saw a... Capri son? Leveled up to dad mug, and it had a controller with a mini controller.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I asked him if it was his and he just broke down crying. I was genuinely so confused. He started blurting out that his ex-fiance got it for him when she found out she was pregnant. She had the baby in to to year, but she passed away during childbirth. So the baby is almost a year old, but he liked me so much because I reminded him of her, and he really likes me and thinks I'd be a good mom because I'm a nurse, so I have some maternal instinct in my somewhere, which I don't understand how that translates. He says he was lonely and stressed out, that th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, so, so, thi, so, so, so, so, so, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, the thi, thr, thr-a, thr-s, and, thr-s, and I's, toguui, togui, togui, togui, today, today, thr-a, some, so was lonely and stressed out that this was the first night in months that he hasn't had his kid with him. He always told me
Starting point is 00:26:28 he had to be home for from dates by 10 because of work. He gets up at like 6 a.m. I can't even describe how confused and weirded out I was. Not only that he hid that he had a child but that he was really only with me because I reminded him of his fiance and he wants a replacement for her. I told him I'm sorry about what he was going through and it must be hard to be thrown into being a single dad and losing his fiance, but I am not going to be a replacement for her. I told him he should probably seek therapy to deal with it because he is still grieving. He tried to go on saying this is why I'd be a good mom and tried to show to show me to show me to show me me me me me me me me me me me me to show me me me to show me me to show me to show me to show me to show me to show I told him I had to go and we would talk soon. I took a day to myself and then asked him to meet up so we could talk and he brought his son. No. I told him he was a really
Starting point is 00:27:10 nice guy and he would make someone happy but I couldn't be with him because I told him my stance on children. He lied about having a child and I felt like he wanted me as a replacement for his fiance. I told him he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he needed he he he he he he needed he he needed he he he he he he he he he, he needed he, he he, he wanted liked, he wanted liked, he wanted liked, he wanted told, he wanted liked, he wanted liked, he wanted liked, he wanted liked, he wanted liked, he wanted liked, he wanted liked, he wanted liked, he was liked, he was like, he was like, he was like, he, he was like, he, he, he was like, he was like, he was like, he was like, he to to to to told, he, he, he, he, he, he told, he told, he told, he was told, he told, he told, he told, he wanted told, he wanted told, he said like, he wanted me told, he wanted to to told, he said, he wanted told, he wanted told, he wanted told, he wanted me told, he wanted me, he wanted time to grieve and heal. He tried to beg me to rethink but I ended it and left. We met through a mutual friend and I guess he told her and she said how could I leave him in this time of need and she picked me for him because I was similar to his fiance and I would be a good mom if I just had the chance and this was it and how could I ever be a real woman if I th th th. th. th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th th th thi, thi, told, he he he's he's he's he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, I he, he, I he, I he, I he, I to told, I told, I told, I told, told, told, told, he, he, he, he, he told, he he told, he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he We are no longer in contact, but sadly I do have to work with her because that's how we met. I don't know why I told my mom this knowing how she feels about me not having kids, but I thought she would be on my side or at least give me comfort.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I was wrong. She said the same thing pretty much that he was vulnerable with me and I should have tried to make it work, and how could she have raised someone who lacked empathy? Ah, damn. This story is making me boil over. I, these people that are putting this on this woman, of like, yeah, this is great. You're not a good woman, you're not a good person, how dare you give up on this possible experience?
Starting point is 00:28:22 The fact is, she was very clear about what she wants. Regardless of judgment of her, she was very clear and he lied. It's so unfortunate that he lost his fiance, that is so heartbreaking, but he did lie. And he keeps saying that she's a replacement, or reminds him of his fiance. That's some black mirror shit. I wonder, here's, that is also horrible. I wonder if she put her foot down about anything that wasn't a child,
Starting point is 00:28:52 that wasn't what a woman should want, if they would push. Does that make sense? Like if she was like, I don't want to live in Europe or I don't want to, I don't know, like, her putting her foot down about not wanting to be a mom, I think is not respected because they think all women should want to be moms. I just think a lot of them. That is so biased and bad. I just not believing her and just believing that all women are just... And no matter what, she's allowed to I would never want to go into a relationship, even if I did like the kid or whatever, knowing that he lied.
Starting point is 00:29:28 And knowing that I remind him of his fiance, it was passed on, he would never live up to that, ever. If she was like, if in a different situation, she was like, I want kids more than anything else in the world. And she's like, and I met this guy, his fiance died in childbirth like five months ago, and he says, I remind him of his ex-fiance, or his fiance who just passed away, I'd be like, do not get into that situation. That's not going to end well. This is him in a horrible time of grief, trying to mend it by replacing you for his fiance who just died, that is not going to be a solve.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Somewhere down the line, years from now, this is all going to fall apart. And that's not how this works. He's in a horrible place. He has every right to demand help from everyone in his life. He could be talking to his family, friends and being like, I need help. I am alone raising this child. He has every right to be doing that right now, but coming upon a stranger who, and lying to them and trying to trick them into replacing your fiance who just passed away
Starting point is 00:30:34 is the last thing you should be doing. It's kind of giving like he's truly in grief. I, he doesn't even realize. He's like forcing. In a way, knowing the whole story, I'm not as mad at him as I am the friend who picked her for him, knew the whole situation and set this up. He is not in his right mind right now. He is. No, but the friend is.
Starting point is 00:30:57 The friend is. What? I wouldn't say a friend? I would say that's a co-worker. It sounds, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that thi. that that that thi. that's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi, who thi, say that's a... No, I think it's a co-worker who... It sounds like it's a co-worker who literally set her up to be like, you're a replacement. Yeah. And... No. And frankly, if... Frankly, I think if...
Starting point is 00:31:17 I obviously can't relate, thank God. But if you have a someone dear to you who passes away, I don't think your next relationship should be based upon they remind me just of them. That is not, that means you are not ready. He is giving grief. He is not ready to be in a relationship for a long time. Also where is the kid all day? I don't know, no, he said this was one of the first times that he was able to be away from the kid, I think. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I know he's a single father, so I'm sure this is really tough. No, I bet it's so hard. And I bet his friends, like this friend, whoever that person is, just wants the best for him and they're like blinded by how bad this situation. Correct. That they're not thinking think thin. thin. thin. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's thi. It's not thi. It's not thi. It's not thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is so this is this is this is th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's not thi. It's not thi. It's not thi. It's not thi. It's not. that. that. that. that. that. I. thi. I's that. I's thi. I's that. I's that. thi sheer fact is that she explained what she needs, she explained that she was lied to, and then people are now against her. It feels almost like a bit of a witch-hires? There's no circumstances where you're allowed to lie and manipulate someone.
Starting point is 00:32:12 There's no circumstances where you're allowed to lie and manipulate someone. I think their circumstances where you're allowed to lie and manipulate someone. I think I'm just triggered by the less of a woman thing. I think it's really triggering because it's like, all women can't have babies. So stop making that a woman thing. All women, unfortunately, some want babies and some actually physically can't. So I am so sick of people putting that pressure on women. It's like, well, maybe I don't even have the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity the opportunity give up this opportunity. It's like, well maybe I don't even have the opportunity. Right. Like I'm just like, stop talking about having babies as like a normal casual thing when a lot of people struggle to even have them. And you don't even
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Starting point is 00:33:35 They tried to fully like, horror movie, trick her into this situation. Or in his brain, he's like, I can tak. In his brain, he's like, I can take it back, I can rewind time. I can make this go back right now. He's not well. I could fill this void quickly. He's not well. And I, that's understandable.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I feel bad for the, I feel bad for the whole situation. But like I said, there's no situation where you can lie and manipulate someone. A bunch of comments here. in the story who isn't you is a manipulative piece of shit. You have no obligation to become this guy's bang nanny. That, what a set of balls on your mutual friend and this guy. And your mother needs a time out. You don't lack empathy. What you have is good boundaries and a healthy self-respect. If your co-worker tooffic, their to' worker, too' their co-skwo'er.............. tooke, tooke, too'er. too'er. too'er. too'er. too'er. too'er. too'er. too'er. too'er. too'er. too, too, what's, too'er. too, what too. too. too. too. too. too. to, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too... too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. the the the the the the the the too. the the the the too. the the too. the too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. the about this, the answer is that he lied. Lied about his whole life. Whether it's kids, job, family, whatever, he lied.
Starting point is 00:34:27 That is not the foundation for a relationship. Your work friend is a real piece of work. Lastly, someone said, you did the right thing by ending the relationship. He is a liar and a trip. It was never your responsibility to give her grandchildren or be a mom to someone else's child. Correct. Your duty in life is to create the life you want for yourself and take care of yourself. Okay, yes.
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Starting point is 00:35:49 He shouldn't be looking for someone that reminds him of his fiance. He should be looking for someone that wants to be a mother. Yeah. He should be looking for, You know what I mean? He should not. That's all he should be looking for, plus what he wants, but like he shouldn't be looking for someone like his wife. He should just be focusing on getting through being a single dad for one second. First, and then, but honestly, I do wish him happiness. I really do, like, crazy, crazy things to you. And then, th. And then then then then then then then then then then then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. thi, thi, th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, like, like, to, like, like, like, like, th. th. the the the the th. the thr-a. their, their, their, their, like, like, crazy, crazy things to you. And then when he does hit it off with someone who wants the same things as him, that'll be beautiful. And it won't be like shoving a puzzle piece in the space that doesn't fit.
Starting point is 00:36:34 No, I mean, taking it out of even this situation, like, can you imagine if you met someone who didn't have a kid who was just like her. It's like you'd be like all right That's no. That's bad 100% is there an update? There's no update on that one. I think she got out of that one. She she fully got out of that one. Had to ask I know because because if you don't ask he won't say it exactly if I don't ask you. Yeah, actually, most stories have updates. they don't tho. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's, that's, that's, that's, that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. the, the, th. th. th. thi. th. th. the. that's, that's, that's, that's, that. Yeah, actually, most stories have updates, but when we don't ask for them, I just skip them. Yeah. People don't know that, so. All right. Our next story, it's another today I fucked up. Today I fucked up by canceling my roommate's favorite TV show. What does Possible to sound like for your business business?
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Starting point is 00:37:42 Therapy can help you continue that journey because your back to school era can come at any age. And Better Help makes it easy to get started. With affordable online therapy you can do from anywhere. Rediscover possibility with better help. Visit Better Help. That's Better H.E.L.P. dot.com. This didn't happen today, but many, many years ago when I was in college. My roommate was obsessed with this one particular TV show, which I was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the thi, their, their, th. thi, thi, their, their, their, the, th. th. th, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, better, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, t. And, tp. And, tp. And, tp. And, tp. And, th. And, th. And, the the th. And, th. And happen today, but many, many years ago when I was in college. My roommate was obsessed with this one particular TV show, which I was also a fan of, but he was very into it. He joined different forums and groups about it. He participated in chat rooms about it. He was obsessed.
Starting point is 00:38:14 At the time, it was up in the air as to whether or not the show would be canceled. So, being an immature 19-year-old, I decided decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided, I decided to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to to to to to to to to to to to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to have to have to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to the to to the the to to to the to to to to to have a little fun. I had recently found out about this service that would distribute anyone's article for free. Knowing that my roommate had alerts set up for everything to do with this show, I was fairly certain that if anyone was going to see what I was about to do, it would be him. I wrote an article announcing the cancellation of the show. I started off making it the article, things that would never appear in any official announcement.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I looked it over, sent it in, and promptly forgot about it. The next morning, I got up, jumped in the shower, and started getting ready for class. I heard my roommate shout, oh my god! I walked back into the room and asked, what's going on? My roommate looked devastated. They canceled it. They actually canceled it. They're idiots. I asked him why they had done that. He proceeded to read the rest of the article out loud. As he reached the bizarre statements, he got a confused look on his face, held his hands toward
Starting point is 00:39:11 the screen and said, what the hell is this crap? I burst out laughing and my roommate realized he'd been had. He shook his head. You're an ass. Seriously, dude? How did that the today. th. the th. th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. thii. the thi. thi. the the thi. the thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. ta. tauu. toda. the. the thea. thea. thea. thea. the the the get that out there? We had a good laugh about it. He vowed to get me back, and I went off to class. Later that day, I walked into our dorm and my roommate had a huge grin on his face. Congratulations, dude. You're famous, he said happily. What did you do? I asked. Oh, I didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:39:36 He replied. He sent me a link and told me a, to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to to the, and, and, the, the, and, and, and, the, and, to the, and, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th................. too, the too, the the th.......... toda........ to to to to the it up. The link opened up to a post on one of the fan forums of the show. The subject was the show's cancellation, and the post was a direct copy of my fake article. Below, people were reacting with devastation and pure outrage at the network's decision to cancel the show. They had overlooked the bizarre statements and had taken the fake article as an official cancellation of the show. I couldn't believe that it had spread so far. I read page the page the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the fake. I the fake. I the fake. the fake. the fake. the fake. the fake. the fake. the fake. the fake. thoceauice. I was, the fake, thoze. the fake, the fake the fake tho, the fake, the fake, the fake, the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theircolic, theirc. the thoceaqqqqqqqqqqqaqqqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqa.aqaqa.aqaqaqa. taqaqa. taqaqa. their, their, the it had spread so far. I read page after page of devastated fans mourning the demise of their favorite show, and then the mood shifted. The creator of the show posted on the forum after he was contacted by several fans. The post was along the lines of, well, I hope we're not canceled because I'm at the office and working.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Now I'm fielding phone calls from my writers asking if they still have jobs. My God. Oh shit, I said. My roommate burst out laughing. Oh shit is right, dude. Keep reading. As I continued to read, the tide of the comments turned from angry at the network to angry at whatever fucking fuckhead decided to pull this stunt. These people were out for my blood. They talked about tracking me down and from the most devoted fan, at least he found it funny. They wrote to both the network and the show creator encouraging them to serve paperwork on the service. I used to release the article in order to find out my IP, which would have traced to the
Starting point is 00:40:53 college and likely resulted in disciplinary, if not legal action against me. I spent the next two months thinking I was going to get expelled or arrested. Meanwhile, my roommate just laughed at me every time I got anxious and told me it served me right. The following month, the fake article was referenced by TV Guide and it's and is still mentioned on both the IMDB and Wikipedia pages for the show. As for me, well, I haven't spoken about this in many years, and I'm still choosing to use a throwaway because my regular account has a bit too much too much too much too much too much too much too much too much too much too much too much too much to to to to to to be to be to to be to to to to to to to be to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be............. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the today. thea. thea. thea. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the? Oh man. Lost? Maybe it was lost. This feels... It doesn't say? Not as of yet. But what's funny is this this clearly is old because I feel like this shit happens every day now. I was going to say this is like early fake news.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Also, something that boils my blood but everybody does, is reading the title of an article and not reading the article? Yeah. Everybody does it. Everybody fucking does it. I do it. OK, when I was studying psychology, taking research, taking like research classes, and they talk about research,
Starting point is 00:41:58 and then knowing that whenever, like a popular article or magazine or something says like, study proves this, like, it's, never believe it. Because studies never prove anything. Studies, studies support the idea of something, but there's never a study that proves something. But then they post an article saying, study proves that drinking a glass of wine every night decreases cancer risk and it's like... Well it does, that's not true. Yes it does. Red wine does.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Everybody knows that. A glass of red wine, it, it proves life and decreases cancer risk. It cures your heart. I've read so many articles. Yeah, me too. Look, look, I, you're crazy. Okay. But I'm saying, just don't, do not, a title does not give you anything. And they're manipulating the title to make you go like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:42:49 But this is the issue with the internet. This is a really tame version of the scary shit that can happen when you give everyone the ability to like just be a reporter. Because you could just report anything. And this is like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thii. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thioliolioliolioliolioliolomea, thiolome. thioliolioliol-I. thiol-I. thiol-I. thiol-I is just, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi-in is just, thi-in is just, thi-in is just-a-s. I's is just-s. I'm just-s. I'm just-s. I'm just-s. I'm just-s. I'm just-s. I'm just-s. I'm just-I's-I's-I's-s. thooer And this is like a tame version of what, I feel like the last like 10 years has been. Yeah. Comments, how well written did it have to be that the writers got convinced?
Starting point is 00:43:14 The OPE said, to be honest, it was pretty bad. On top of that, the company that put out the article made before putting it out that made it make no sense. One that I remember remember, we can't justify production costs became, we can justify production costs. Someone on the forum even commented on how poorly edited it was. Someone else said, I think you'd be protected as it's a parody, and it's not your fault, they believed your lie.
Starting point is 00:43:36 What is the show? Update. Yes! Okay, I can give you some hints because I know the answer. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the the the. It's. the the. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. thea. tooooooooooooooooooooooo. Someone. Someone. Someone. Someone. Someone. Someone the. okay, I can give you some hints because I know the answer. Okay, okay. It is a TV show. It is a TV show that's a major that a show runner would be. It's a TV show. Uh, it's not a reality show.
Starting point is 00:43:55 It's a show that did get canceled. And they were saying like, oh, it's a show that was always seemed like it was going to get canceled. It didn't run that long, but it had a very strong fan base. Pushing daisies or something? That's a really good guess. That's a really good guess. Like something that was from a little bit earlier. Roswell? No, I like that guess.
Starting point is 00:44:14 the guest, that's Nickelodeon. Joan, the Joan. Wait, she's a teenage girl. Not Joan of Arcadia. Not Harry at the spy of the show. Joan of Arcadia was such a funny show. Hold on, hold on. She's a hot teen. I think maybe- The girl who is God in high school. She's a hot teen.
Starting point is 00:44:32 But around that, the te' a teen, teen, teen, teen, teen, teen, teen, teen, teen, teen, teen, teen, te, te, te, te,. Just woke up to see that someone guessed correctly that it was Veronica Mar. Mars! Veronica Mars! I'm so dumb. Emily literally asked me if I knew Veronica Mars. Yeah. This happened in 2006.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Jesus Christ. Kristen Bell. My comments may still need manual approval, so I don't know if they're showing up. But as promised I can confirm that it was Veronic. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the can confirm that it was Veronica Mars and Rob Thomas joined the television without pity forums to confirm the show was not canceled. The forums are since defunct, so the linked on the page is dead, but here is where it was where it was, the show did get, like, it ended pretty like,
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Starting point is 00:45:51 Veronica Mars. Yeah, but back then, this stuff would spread you can just really figure it out immediately. Messie. Very messy. You ready for the next story? Yes, sir. Okay. Got an Am I the Assul post here. Oh, fun. Classic.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Am I the Assul for telling my husband he's too broke to be so sexist? Okay, let's hear him out. Throw away, account. So my husband comes from a traditional family. Mom's a stay-at-home mom, father was a sole provider. I come from the opposite. My mother pretty much forbade me from ever being financially dependent on a man and drilled that into me early on.
Starting point is 00:46:37 My husband worked hard to unlearn the values he saw replicated at home. He often more than pulled his weight at home, was an engaged in present father and a genuine partner. The one thing that grinds my gears is how much weight he puts on the opinions of his family. I get that we all want our parents to be proud of us, but this is too much. My in-laws are staying with us for two weeks. Our usual M.O. is I prep breakfast, we all eat lunch at work, and my husband makes dinner. We have a cleanerer but she's on holiday, so in the meantime, we're do-it-yourselfing, the cleaning, where it's down to everyone to keep their space clean, and common spaces we all clean. This is how we've always done it, and it works.
Starting point is 00:47:14 My in-laws hate that I'm one of those modern women. They hate that I don't find my purpose in being a wife and th w w wiiiiiiiii wi wi wi, thoomomomomomomomomom, thoom, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and thi, and thi, tho, that I, that I, that I that I that I that I that I that I th. th. th, th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, being a wife and mother, and they hate that my husband pulls his weight at home. We spoke pretty frankly early on where I established my boundaries and told them I won't be chastised about how I live my life in my home. When I am a guest in their home, I accommodate their ways and play the daughter-in-law they wish I was. They have for the most part respected this. yesterday after work, tired, and starving. I typically get home 615, 630, and we eat at 7 p.m. I said quick hellos and ran up for a pre-dinner shower. When I came down, I went to the kitchen to help set up for dinner and found nothing ready.
Starting point is 00:47:53 I asked my husband about it, but he wouldn't look at me and his mother answered, and he hadn't cooked anything anything. She toaway. I dished up for me and my kids and we sat at the table to eat. My husband and his parents served themselves and joined us. My mother-in-law was still going on about what was wrong with me and why it was a failure. I asked my husband if he had a to say. He said his mother had a point and it would not a the the toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the the toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the the toe. toe, toe, the the toe, toe, toe, the the toe, toe, the the the told, told, told, too, too, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me to me, to me, to me, to me, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tie, tie, tie, t t t thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, today, today, today, today, today, tod acted more like a proper woman and took better care of my home and children. He said tradition was tradition for a reason and it was kind of insulting that I thought I was too good for how he was raised. This is where I might be an asshole.
Starting point is 00:48:34 I told him tradition won't allow a man on $35,000 to support a family of five and he was too broke toto be so sexist. He looked hurt and I saw tears welling in his eyes. He excused himself from the table. I regret saying this in front of our children, but him saying that to me after I'm busting my ass to clean up his mess on top of having to deal with his parents was too much for me. Am I the asshole? Nope. You are not the asshole. You're asking your husband fucking... Especially, yeah, in front of your kids saying,
Starting point is 00:49:08 yeah, I wish you were more of a proper woman. Like, that's... It's so gross, it teaches them something that they've discussed as a couple that they don't want to teach. I'm already pissed at him for tolerating his mom's behavior in like, like, to his wife in in front of his kid. Yeah. Like that already sucks that he's still like a child. Did the mom say don't don't cook? I guess so. Yeah what was and what was he doing just sitting there? He was like well she's gonna be so mad it's like dude buck the fuck up. Yeah was he just like
Starting point is 00:49:38 reading in the other like what are you doing? I don't know. Yeah. That would make me so curious. Her response is not an asshole response because he was already such an asshole to her. Yeah, I mean, I, no matter what, like, I guess it is assholy to like demeaned someone for how much they make. But he demeaned her. But he'd have to eat her to it. Like, she matched his asshole. Yes. But he, he, it feels like she spoke th th th th th th th th she was th she was she was she was she was she was she was she was she was she was she was she was she was she was she was that she was that she was that she was that she was that she was that she was that she was that she was that she was toe. toe. toe. told. to. toe. toe. to mea. to me. to me. to. to. to. to me. to. to. to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. to. that. that. to. that matched his asshole. Yes, yes, but he, it feels like she spoke out of anger and spoke because she was pushed from a long fucking day. So she said that because she was so pissed.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Like sure, she was, she said an assholy thing, but he's an asshole. The ultimate reality is the nature of the economy and salaries and how expensive everything is with how hard it is to make money nowadays does not permit that traditional lifestyle that mom was used to. Well said, yeah. You know we have to live into multiple income households nowadays to even afford rent. Correct. But in this situation where it's just about pettiness of what they're doing, like she was, she had every right to be an asshole to him. We don't always have the luxury the luxury the luxury to have the luxury to have to be to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a th. th. to be a to th. to th. to th. to thi. thi. thi. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi. their, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi.. Like, she had every right to be an asshole to him. We don't always have the luxury to be a stay-at-home person. I don't know how anyone...
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Starting point is 00:51:31 Not cute. He's simply a little baby. It doesn't make you look less when you're getting dinner. It makes you look less when you listen to your wife. Exactly. that you make less and are making dinner. Like what? That's hot.
Starting point is 00:51:48 That is a man. That sounds fucking hot. The fact that you're whimpering behind your mom is like, yikes. Pathetic. How is it's still happening? Truly. Oh, it's prevalent of just parents. It's so gross.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah. It's prevalent of just parents that still, yeah. Comments, sucks the kids were there for it, but he deserved worse. Not the asshole, should have ordered only enough food for you and the kid. Opie said, I wanted to, but I couldn't quite bring myself to do it. Someone said under that, I love that you ordered enough, you did your duty and fed your family. So they can't be mad, and you did it as an income provider also. It's like a double kill them with kindness kick. That's what's also crazy. Like the mom knows she is also working a job.
Starting point is 00:52:30 But also expects her to still do this. It's also a sick life, dude. My mom was always working and always came home late and had the best takeout for us. We'd be like, yes, we got C. We Instead of like meatloaf. Yeah. Freaken Elpoil Loco, and it was awesome. That sounds amazing. Someone else said, curious, what is your salary contribution compared to his?
Starting point is 00:52:55 I would find it even more hilarious if you are the main breadwinner. He had the nerve to say that to you. She said, I am the main breadwinner. He hasn't always earned so little. He made some bad decisions, nothing illegal or immoral just stupid, which cost him his job and savings. This is what pissed me off more, that I'm working hard to cover the shortfall while he works on getting back on his feet, and he has the nerve to say that to me.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah. I think he is also speaking from like anxiety and insecurity and fear and pain because because because because because because because because he, because he, because he, because, because, because, because, because, because, he, because, he, he, he, and he, and he, and he, and he is he's, and he's, and he's, and he's, and he's, and he's, and he's, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and I's thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and I's, and, and I's, and, and, and, and I is to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and pain because he doesn't feel good that he fucked up and is earning less probably. But it's also like, dude, like let go of your pride and ego right now and just, this is our home. Yeah, so many men's insecurities leads them to want to belittle their partner in the hopes that they feel small and won't like, Ithey are so sad. But I'm like if you do that you're gonna eventually push your partner away. Like she is closer to divorce than she probably was before because he tried to do this to her.
Starting point is 00:53:56 The mom is feeding his deepest, darkest insecurities and it's he's she's validating those insecurities for him and is like you got to tell her because the thing is what's tough is like I want to say the mom's a villain but she's not that's the way she was raised that's the world that she was in but that's all she knows it's up to him to protect his marriage he has to change his mother like it's like when they got married, that's a them issue. Like you have no, she has no say in his wife's finances or the way she lives her life. It's up to him to set boundaries and protect his family and they're going to be doing things different. It's all ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:54:37 It's amazing how much comes down to cooking. Like I've pointed out a lot about how many men do believe they should not cook at all is so wild to me. It's because they grew up and they never had to cook. And just like, but also that's like resistance to it. This like this belief of like it is morally wrong to do it is crazy to me because like I don't know. When I got really into cooking I almost in my view, I think it's I thi thi, I think it's th, I thi it's just it's just it's just it's just thi, it's just thi, it's just thi it's just thi, it's just just just thi, it's just just just just just just just just thi it's just thi, it's just th it's just th it's just th it's just a the th, it's a the thi, it's a th it's a th it's a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's just just just just just just just just just just a thi. It's just a thi. thi. to thi. to to thi. to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to me because like I don't know like when I got really into cooking I almost in my view I think it's I don't I think it's a just a general cool thing but I always feel like it's like when I'm doing I'm like oh I feel like a man when I'm like you're providing fuck yeah just feel like I just feel like you feel like such an adult I don't view it as a gender thing but I think if anything moving forward I feel like it to thrown. the the the th I th I th I th I th I th I th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. the the the th. the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the thi thi thi thi like it's such an opportunity for families to do it all together.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Show love, like feeding your partner and your family is the definition of like protecting and providing and showing love. Lastly, someone said, I don't even think it has to necessarily be some horrible thing that the kids know the family can't get by on dad's salary alone. Not being able to support a family of five on a single income is nothing to be ashamed of. I hope O.P. explains that to the children and her husband for that matter. Frankly, the real problem here seems to be that the husband is a bit of a pushover, which is particularly problematic when he's around his bulldozer of a mother. Hussein thu. thi needs needs needs needs needs needs needs needs the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. too, their. their. their. I. I. their. too. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I........................ to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toe. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the to. the the to back the fuck off if she wants to continue being welcomed into their home. I also wonder what this situation was just stupid thing which cost him his job and
Starting point is 00:56:08 his savings. What I feel bad for the kids is that they're seeing the situation where their parents are like throwing these insults at each other instead of communicating effectively. They're witnessing the mom probably giving them mixed messages. They're not getting like a straightforward like boundaries and being taught. Kids are adaptable though. I do, I do think that like kids know a lot and they'd rather, yes, you shouldn't fight in front of your kids, but sometimes it's like kids, it's better to just communicate with them what was, what that was. Kids aren't stupid.
Starting point is 00:56:42 No. Like they recognize what's going on. But, is th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, they're that, they're that, that, that, that, that, they're that, that, that, they recognize what's going on. Yeah. But, yeah, is there an update? There's no update on that one. All right. Moving on to our final story. Okay, our final mess. Here we go. This last one comes from Am I the asshole, but it ended up on Best of Reditor Updates. Uh-oh. You're gonna get all your updates here. I do love that. Okay, this is going to be fun. This is going to be fun. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:08 People are going to reconcile or they're going to come back for more. Yeah. Um, all right. I hear this is a doozy. Am I the asshole for asking my friends? cake is, seems harmless. Ah, we're fucked. What possibly could happen here? Everything. What do you, what?
Starting point is 00:57:31 Because wedding is involved. Everything. Food, food, cake. I, a 22-year-old woman, I, a 22-year-old woman, and Roe, a 25-year-old man, who will be getting married in about two-year-old woman, I'm in the wedding party of my friends, we will call M, 25-year-old woman, and Ro, a 25-year-old man, who will be getting married in about two months. I have been really excited for the wedding since it'll be an opportunity for all the friends from college to get together for the first time in two years.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Not to mention, M and Roe are my best friends. Or at least, I thought they were. We have a discord for all the wedding stuff and they have a channel about food. They've been really good about being open about the food they intend to have at the reception, including vegan slash vegetarian slash gluten-free options for everyone and answering questions so I didn't think there would be any contention if I asked a question. Anyway, well, four days ago, I posted a message into the discord asking, hey, what flavor is the cake going to be? I want to mentally prepare myself, L-O-L. I think looking back, my choice of extra words is what caused all of this, but I meant it in the event the cake was chocolate.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I received a private message back that the cake would be chocolate and that if I had a problem with it, then I could shove it because it was their wedding, not mine. And I felt really taken aback by this response. Uh, never did I mention that I would have been upset, and I certainly wouldn't have put up a stink about it. It's exactly like M had said, it's their wedding. I explained as much and tried to apologize for any offending I did, but she got even more defensive and started basically blasting me for implying that she was offended, and I was
Starting point is 00:59:15 just left overall very confused. I gave it two days before I tried to apologize again and smooth it over, figuring she may have just been having a bad day, but I got shut down again telling me she didn't need my apology because nothing was wrong and I needed time to stop trying to make it seem like shit was wrong between us and to just drop it. I texted Roe to see if I could gauge what was going on since he and I have always had an open dialogue about things like this, but he basically just told me he couldn't talk to me right now, and I have to imagine it's because M told him not to. It's been two days since then, and I'm just really confused. This whole thing has made me want to drop out of the wedding party and honestly not go at all.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I wish Roe would talk to me and I'm would be honest. I can't help but think maybe I just don't think maybe I don't think maybe I don't think maybe I don't think maybe I don't think maybe I don't think maybe I don't think maybe I don't thi thi maybe I don't thi thi thi thi thi maybe I just don't think maybe I don't think maybe think maybe I just don't thi maybe I don't thi maybe maybe and like maybe they've gotten pushback from other people on other things and somehow it's being taken out on me or is it really a big no-no to ask stuff like this? I don't know this is the first wedding I have ever gone to so am I the asshole? Uh-huh. Shove it is making me laugh. It's tr, so shove it! It's making me laugh so hard. Um, okay. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Can I say? She might have had a million people go, I can't eat this, I need vegan, I bubbubbub. And it was probably the last one, and that was the friend that she trusted the most to go, it's fucking chocolate, shove it. And she's like, you know what, get off my ass. Yeah, I'm done. From everything I understand about weddings, and especially if it's like, it's what, it's like two days or, uh, yeah, stress, just stress. In about two months, you know, I know it's stressful, so if it's like, hey, what flavors the cake? So it's gonna be cha. It's like, it, it, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th. From, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, th, th, from, from, th, from, from, th, th, th, from, from, th, from, th, th, th, th, th, th. From, th. From, th. From, th. From, thi, thi, thi. From, thi. From, thi. From, thi. From, thi. From, from everything, from, from, thi. From, from, from, from, from, from, from, thi. From, so shove it. I'd be like, you got it. Like, it's just like, okay. Also, I think the couple sharing all the food ideas with their wedding party is a mistake.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Cuz you're giving them a seat at the table. When you give them a seat at the table, then they can ask. You're a godfather? They can ask questions. She was like, the thoom., thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. tho, tho, tho, thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thi, the the the thi, I the the th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's thi, I thi. thi. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo thooo thoooo tho tho tho the food options. So then someone goes, okay, the one of the dessert options. She was, get off my fucking back! Yeah, it's like, well, you opened up the door to an entire wedding party of food. Never do that. Look, these are the food options.
Starting point is 01:01:32 And look, theymea, the food option. There you go. Here's the try to say anything. I'm just like, I'm going and that's, it's your wedding. You get to decide everything. Hey, you just go. Like, if I show up and it's like, hey, for dinner, we're having cardboard. I'd be like, I guess we're having cardboard. I'm bitch on the way home, but I'm not gonna bitch to the bride on a dinner. Talk shit this Merlo. It was absolutely congratulations.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I hope you guys. Why are we Mark Wahlberg right now? Here's my question. Why? Okay, I agree. I agree. I agree with what the general consensus is. But I also am like, why does a cookie. I understand with the amount of pressure of saying like, hey, what flavors the cake so
Starting point is 01:02:28 I can mentally prepare myself is like. It's a little rude. And also, and here's also a mistake, here's a mistake. Here's a mistake. Writing things out and typi. ways. Did she say L-O-L after too? Yeah, she did. Nightmare. Yeah, I, I would have just, I would not be asking that question to the Bride and Groom over Discord. I would have asked person, be like, hey, what flavors is the cake gonna be, you know? And then she just goes, boom. Yeah, I don't know. I think there's a lot of history here. Wait. So. Okay. I can't wait. The verdict, though, was asshole, which, you know, I will say like, I think because
Starting point is 01:03:08 I saw that verdict that's also making me a little biased, but um. I don't think they're an asshole. I think they're a asshole, I think stressed out maybe because of underlying things. I'd be like that's Jack he's an asshole he makes everything about the cake. Yeah yeah but I will I will say her saying I'm thinking about dropping out of the wedding party I'd be like you're making this about you yeah okay I do think sometimes especially when they're dealing with a wedding so much and like asking is like she's making it about her and it's like you need to you're you're being selfish back up we told you to shove it just just walk away okay first update oh my god there's multiple from
Starting point is 01:03:53 username row apparently yes the row from the story shove it shut up shut up shove it shut up shut up that was the bride. That was M. That was M. Shove it's betrothed. This is Ro. But she reached out to Ro and Ro was like, hey, I can't talk right now. I can't talk to you. M's going to kill me. He responds saying,
Starting point is 01:04:12 Hey, Izzy, not surprised you didn't share the story. the th tried to claim my present was hers. I'm Roe, the groomed to be. I don't do Reddit, but my best man does and frequents this thread. He saw this post and it was so obvious it's you. This whole cake thing did happen, but it is not the whole story and did not go the way Izzy claims. First off, cake was not her only complaint. You refused to have a joint bachelor slash bachelorette dinner because I have poor taste. You said my suit was tacky because I wanted white and not traditional black. You whined about the bridesmaids dress as being purple because you wanted ivory. Any decision we've made there's always a complaint and M has done has done nothing but be patient and try and find common ground. She should not have to change her wedding choices for you. Second, we never told you to shove it. Em only messaged you privately because she was
Starting point is 01:05:07 tired of having to argue in the group chat. Everyone else is tired of your bullshit too, so we didn't want to bother them with it. It's a cake. Eat it or yeat it. You have hated me ever since I joined the friend group. And that's fine, you have their thed me thed me thed me thed me thed me thed me thed me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me hated me thated th. You have hated me th. You have hated me. You have hated me. You have hated me. You have hated me. You have hated me. You have hated me. You have hated me. You, you. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. You, you. You th th th th th th th the th the th th th th th th th th th th th the. You have the. You have hated me. You have hated me. You have hated me. You have hated me, theat theat the. You have theat the. You have thi thi. You have thi. because of your pettiness. If you care about her, then honor her decisions. Of course M is different, because she grew the fuck up. All of us did except you. My God, you're fucking 22. Stop acting like a spoiled teenager. Chocolate cake will not kill you. By the way, asshole, I'm 26, not 25. Pay attention. I wasn't angry about this until you decided to go on the internet for pity. It's pathetic and immature. For the record, M double-checked my response. She signed off on it, get it together. So we went from being like, ah you're kind of an asshole to, oh
Starting point is 01:05:53 you're apparently an asshole. Oh she didn't tell the whole story. She didn't tell any of the... So what all I did was ask what the flavor the cake was. What a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare a nightmare. What a nightmare. What a nightmare. What a nightmare. What a nightmare. What a nightmare. the night. the night. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. I. to. I. I. to. to. to. to. to. I. to. to. to. t. t. t. t. te. th. th. th. th. I of the cake was. Yeah. What a nightmare person, if you're going to go on the internet to a bunch of anonymous people and just tell a fake story just to just to feel. I was going to say the comment when she said chocolate cake, she goes so I can brace myself or whatever, it's like, huh? Yeah. That doesn't feel like a one- Exactly. This is always, this is always what I think with so many Reddit stories of like... They're hiding in from...
Starting point is 01:06:25 I can't believe, Roe. One percent of this story. Went on there. The vitriol in, I know she's the most insufferable person because of the amount of vitriol in his writing. I couldn't help but just be like, yeah. Oh, for sure. You became Roe.
Starting point is 01:06:41 He's had a problem with everything. Ivory? Bridesmaid dresses? That's white. Ivory is for the flower girls if you have them. That's basically white. Careful, because you're eating chocolate cake. It's gonna get on it. Careful. That's right.
Starting point is 01:06:56 What a mess. I love that. But caught, caught. She responds. Tell me she says, stop it. She's going to try to respond at this point. No, if you're this person, and that happens, you need to log off. You need to log off. She should have walked away before.
Starting point is 01:07:14 She should have walked away at shove it, which apparently even didn't happen. Shove it was never said. It was apparently not like that. Okay, update from this lady. It's pathetic and immature to anonymously post asking for advice on Reddit, but you coming here starting shit and posting my real name isn't. Okay, Marcus. Since we're not hiding anymore, how does it feel to have your shit aired for real? Here's how I know M didn't sign off
Starting point is 01:07:45 because she never would have agreed to using my real name. You're just trying to get me upset at her too. She's my best friend and I should have known you'd do this. You always try to manipulate us into being mad at each other. Case in point when I had planned this really surprise party for the same day. I just wanted a lone time with my best friend, but you couldn't wait one day for the party. Em has known me far longer than you, and no offense, I'm sure I know her better than you do.
Starting point is 01:08:12 But I've kept my mouth shut because I love her and just want her to be happy. I complain about everything, then how come I've never said anything about the hundreds of times you's you you you you with you. I just wanted my BFF to spend a little time with me. We're not allowed to have sleepovers anymore because it makes you uncomfie, or take a girl's trip for the weekend because it's too expensive. Sorry you can't take care of her like I can.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Some of us can afford rent. Clearly, this was you joined the friend group, but you clearly weren't fine with mine and M's relationship. You've been the same towards some of her other friends who I'm sure would agree. Get a life, Marcus. Stop trying to take mine. Oh my God. Let's fucking go, dude. Let me tell you right now. This fucking rocks.
Starting point is 01:08:59 This is so fucking throwns. It's literally, this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is the this is this is this is this is this is this is the thi. thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi-thak. thi-fi-aqqqqqqqqqqaqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq. thi-aks. thi-aks. thi-aks. thi-aks. thi-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aaa-a-a-a-aqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqa-a-a-a-aaa So fucking relatable, when best friends and a boy comes in, it's fucking scary. Sometimes the depths of hell. The depths of hell. When two best friends, when a protective best friend gets pushed aside for a boyfriend, it's shit. It's nasty. Oh, I've seen some gross shit for them.
Starting point is 01:09:22 It's a worse breakup than a marriage. 100%. I think sometimes it's, yes. No, I've seen some gross shit. It's a worse breakup than a marriage. 100%. I think sometimes it's, yes. No, I've seen some crazy shit. I've experienced it and it gets nasty. When girl, part made me go, oh God, oh God, oh God. Like, and it's just, it's this. And it's like you're losing, here's a thing. There are so many layers to this, even though there's a clear asshole,
Starting point is 01:09:45 I will say people, people, when they're girls, when they're losing their best friend and you're single, and you were both single girlies out here, they're like, sometimes they get really mad. They get really mad. Honestly, I'll be frank in college. I was this way. My friend was like, she got a boyfriend and started being so different. And suddenly I was like, I hate him. I hate her.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I hate her. Oh, so it's you. No, but I think I've been on both ends. But did you take it out on her? No, and I didn't go this crazy. You're allowed to feel things. And it has gotten a little bit bad. Yeah. Oh yeah. And it's gotten almost like I burned her house down. Like I ruined her life. I left her and the family that we don't have.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Like we can't cuddle anymore, like we can't sleep over anymore. And I'm like, when were we doing that really before? It gets very, very, very messy. And it's unfortunate because it's like, it's so easy to blame the woman who's like on her own and she lost her best friend. It's so easy to blame it, but it's so much more than that. Because then the boyfriend comes in and is like, this is all mine, this is all my territory.
Starting point is 01:10:57 It gets so layered. It gets so messy. I, let me say, I mean, this, this is too far though. This is too far. This is too far. Okay. There's more? Oh, guys, this keeps going. All right, Marcus responds. Marcus, he's like, meet me on the thread.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Meem on the thread. This is between Marcus and Izzy. the plan was for you to distract her while we set up the party by taking her to a movie, not going to the movies, then taking her to dinner and telling her of the party. We waited hours expecting y'all to be back. I have never once made M cancel.
Starting point is 01:11:34 She always did that on her own, and not frequently at all. You have had plenty of time with me too doesn't mean I'm forcing or two. And yes, a trip to multiple countries across Europe is very much too expensive. We already live paycheck to paycheck, which you know. I know money isn't a concern for you, but it very much is for us. Not all of us have apartments paid for by dad. Nobody else seems to think the same things about me. And if I'm wrong, I will gladly listen to to the to, I'm to, I'm to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to, I to, I will to, I will to, I will to, I will to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, and to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the the the.e. the toldld to to to to to to told to to to to to to to to to to to the Communication directly not anonymous Reddit posts you may have known her longer, but you clearly don't know M. well You fail to see how miserable your comments and attitude have made her these past few months for her sake knock it off
Starting point is 01:12:11 Knock it off knock it off knock it off knock it off? Dude he is airing out. Daddy paid for the apartment. He's like, you know what? I'm going to tell them about the dad part. She started it though. She started it out. And if I know her, she came back, didn't she? Oh yeah. Of course she did.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Let's hear it. Of course she did. Yeah, I know. The surprise, we're waiting there for an hour. Yeah, and they're all like this. Is she there? Happy? Ah, God, she's not there yet. Oh, but what about her? That's so messed up to like, have a surprise party planned. And be like, okay, you'll take her to the movies and then come back, and then she just like goes to get married and my fucking fiance and my best friend are
Starting point is 01:13:05 having this happen. I would die. He's villainizing her to her being like, look what he's doing. And the only one losing is M. Truly. Truly. God, knock she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Paid by Daddy? Real mature, asshole.
Starting point is 01:13:28 You know I work hard like everyone else. It's not my fault my parents made better decisions than yours and can actually help their kids. Right. All right, she just lost. I mean, she lost the sport. Izzy, don't do that move. Izzy's been, she's been losing a while. Izzy's coming back with the iron claw and she's using it on herself. Oh, you're shaming his parents for not making enough money.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Ah, you just blamed everyone's parents. Uh-oh. Uh-oh, you just insulted everyone. And of course I wasn't just going to take her to the movies on her birthday, a ruse or not. I was also going to have a threesome with her in the sky we met. And of course I wasn't just going to take her to the movies on her birthday, a ruse or not. It was still her birthday and she's my friend and I love her and wanted her to take her to an actually but knowingly asking for plans when we had them is basically the same thing.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Before you, she was fine. She had everything she needed. Me. And for all of you in the comments saying I have a crush or want to fuck M, you're delusional and know nothing. We're best friends. I love her. She loves me.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Not my fault. feel, but it's not like that. Marcus... We're not saying that because we feel anything. We don't feel it. We're being told them. No, I think you're saying. We're going to get hit. Marcus, you're an asshole. You've been an asshole since day one. Just admit you're not the guy who can give her what she needs and move the fuck on and leave us alone. Here. Final update from Marcus. He's gonna end it. Oh, you're proving my point.
Starting point is 01:15:06 I'm not going to argue over Reddit anymore over this, especially if you're going to talk about my parents like that when you know full well why they aren't rich. Either message us in private or drop it all together. If this is how you really feel, don't bother coming to the wedding. Mike drop. Shove it! Izzy! All because I knew it. I think unfortunately, with all we have to work with with Reddit posts, her saying about their parents who don't have as much money as her parents, it's not my fault that they made
Starting point is 01:15:37 better decisions and can actually help their kids. I'm like, you lost me. You unfortunately lose me with those types of statements. I think she lost me, but it's like, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's there was a lot of statements she lost. I think she lost me but it's like it's like that's a character shower. I think what's hard too is like I can see that the commenters were like oh you're gay for a lesbian or whatever't know being a single girl like in your 20s yes that bond is so deep and so strong and it doesn't have to be I would say I would say it doesn't it doesn't matter it doesn't matter but then it's a betrothal to her right and she's feeling and it's bringing out a monster well she's not respecting M because M has made a decision. She's getting
Starting point is 01:16:25 married to this person that she's making a commitment to, whether he's a man, woman, whatever, she made a commitment and it's like you either go with us or you don't. And I do think the cake question was a broader, was a deeper question. She got caught. She fucking got caught. Also I'll say, I don't know if this is, um, if this is like devil's a devil, like a devil, like a devil, like a devil, like a devil, like a devil, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the devil's a devil's a devil's a devil's a devil's a devil's a devil's a devil's a the, the, the the the the, the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th.. She fucking got caught. I also I'll say I don't know if this is If this is like devil's advocate or a bad thing to say but I think at some point I feel like I would have wanted Marcus to step aside and this be between I do kind of agree with you. It was kind of like my toy my toy my toy my toy rather than it M being like these are my boundaries. Yeah, if you love. I. I. I. I. I th, I th, I th, I th, I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. th. th. th th th. th th th th. th th th. th th. th. th th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thitoy, my toy, my toy. Rather than it, M being like, these are my boundaries. Yeah. If you love me, you'll respect my boundaries.
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Starting point is 01:17:51 And honestly, this is what a lot of the friends are going to remember from this. Em said, don't talk to him. expecting her boundaries at all. No, they should have, I think if Marcus saw this, he should have told M like, hey, she made this post online about this. And they should have. And then it should have been like, what do we do from here? But like- Because at some point, it's ego. Yeah, Marcus did say in his first post that M,
Starting point is 01:18:17 and gave the sign off know who to trust. But if I was M, I'd be like, I'd be like I'm signing off but don't get in there because it's going to get dirty. Like, you know what I mean? You're throwing, you're throwing fire. I think the reality is, here's Izzy saying like, it's her best friend. But she doesn't respect her friend. Wow. She wants to, their, their, to, their, their, to, th. I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi, I'm th. I'm th. I'm like, I'm th. I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm, I'm th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi of them now? Yeah, I want to go to this wedding. You know, I really feel their chemistry. I really feel like, because here we are, we're like, but Izzy wanted this? No, but M wanted this. And she just wanted the brides in purple dresses and not ivory. Oh, but I'll say what it is. It's messy. It's very messy. It is. So when when is. When is. When is. When is. When is. When is. When is. When is. When is. When is. the the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding. the wedding. the wedding. the wedding. the wedding. the wedding. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding? the wedding? the wedding? the wedding? the wedding? the wedding? the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding is. the wedding? the wedding? the wedding? the months, the wedding will be happening not yet. Okay, hold on. So there could be a-
Starting point is 01:19:08 Help us find this. I know, let's go. Imagine Smosh crashes the wedding. And we all, we just bring copious amounts of chocolate cake. Oh my god, and we have forks and we just go, I'm excited to try the cake. I don't think there's any world where Izzy's going to end try, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th, I'm, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, there, there, there, there, thi, thi,'s any world where Izzy's going to end up at this wedding. No, but we should be there. I think she is. I think Izzy is 100% not going to let her best friend get married with them. Not unless we stop her! I think Izzy is going to show up 100%. Whether She's invited or not. Correct. I need more update. I need more updates on this because because the wedding's going. Whether th or th. Whether th. Whether the th. Whether the th. Whether is is is the th. Whether is the th. Whether is th. Whether is the th. Whether is th. Whether is the th. I's th. I's the th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I'm th. I'm their is the thi is th. I th. I th. I th. I their is their is their is their is their is their is their. I their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's is is is is is their. I's is is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's is the. I. I's is the. I's is the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. I th. I thi. I thi. I're me. I need more updates on this because the wedding's going. Who's going?
Starting point is 01:19:46 What's happening? What's the cake? Well, Rose going. There are ultimately bigger messes that we read today, but this one is the best one. Because this is some like Vanderpump rules shit. Uh-huh. This is this is bravo. Because the heart of it, because they're arguing for ego not for like anything. The heart of it has to be stupid as hell. Right?
Starting point is 01:20:06 It is, you're right, it's pure ego. There's no actual like, I mean there's stakes that it's a wedding and stuff, but like nobody's dying. And that's why all the, whereas like the child one earlier, earlier is ultimately, is the under pump girlies, it's not the pasta! No, no. A producer would hear about Izzy and be like, you've got a show. We're giving you a show on TLC. I mean, I got chills when you said the wedding. I'm like, maybe maybe we could watch. Right. the live stream. You know what that this person. It the wedding. It's the wedding. It's the wedding. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the show. I's. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It. It. It's. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. I. It's not. It's not. I. I. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's You know what? That's probably toxic of me.
Starting point is 01:20:45 It's on Reddit. It's on Reddit. But I'm just going to take a step back and recommend it. They're still anonymous to us. Life is sex and sex is power. Yeah. So I- Power is cake. Power is asking what kind of fucking cake it is to the bride and groom. I need more updates. I quite literally like need them. Angela, you have to ask otherwise he won't give it. I have some airline
Starting point is 01:21:09 points. I will go anywhere. Whoa, maybe it's in California. They're like who's this squirrel girl that's just like hanging out. What is the squirrel thing? What is the squirrel thing? The second time you said it. Yeah, what the hell? I don't know. What do people call me? A hamster? A gerbil or gerbil? Something? A squirrel is very different. It's all the same shit.
Starting point is 01:21:30 It's all gerbil. That was messy. That was really. I can't get over. I can't believe it's over. Yeah, that was a ride. Thank you both for being here. Thank you for having us. Thanks, I guess for having us.
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