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These confessions will have your jaw drop! 0:00-1:05 Intro 1:06-12:30 I did this guy’s homework in high school and now he wants to buy me a house https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/1aqq8t6/the_guy_i_did_homework_for_in_high_school_reached/ 12:31-25:42 My fiancé wants everyone to know I’m not “pure” https://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/yqb6n4/my_husband_to_be_wants_everyone_to_know_im_not/ 25:43-44:17 I’m at a loss with my wife’s request https://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/14h5dj1/i_am_at_a_loss_as_to_what_to_do_with_my_54m_wife/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 44:18-58:29 I found my wife’s secret Google account https://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/1bh1wes/i_found_my_wifes_secret_google_account_and_im/ 58:30-01:12:00 My son’s friend’s parents want to adopt him https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/12h98gi/my_sons_friends_parents_want_to_adopt_him/ 01:12:01-01:25:56 My husband has a second family https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/ve9wly/my_husband_has_a_second_family/ SUBSCRIBE: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshPit WEAR OUR JOKES: https://smosh.com WHO YOU HEAR Shayne Topp // https://www.instagram.com/shaynetopp/ Spencer Agnew // https://www.instagram.com/spennser/ Arasha Lalani // https://www.instagram.com/arashalalani_/ WHO YOU DON’T HEAR (usually) Director: Bailey Petracek Director of Programming, Smosh Pit: Emily Rose Jacobson Editor: Alyssa Salter Assistant Director: Marcus Munguia Art Director: Cassie Vance Assistant Art Director: Erin Kuschner Art Coordinator: Alex Aguilar, Josie Bellerby, Natalie Lewis Audio Mixer: Scott Neff Audio Utility: Dina Ramli Camera Operator: Jon Wong Associate Producer, Smosh Pit: Bailey Petracek Director of Photography: Eric Wann Director of Design: Brittany Hobbs DIT/Lead AE: Matt Duran CEO: Alessandra Catanese EVP of Production: Zoe Moacanin EVP of Programming: Kiana Parker Executive Coordinator: Rachel Collis IT: Tim Baker Operations PA: Katie Fink Post Production Manager: Luke Baker Director of Production: Amanda Barnes Production Coordinator: Marcus Munguia Operations & Production Coordinator: Oliver Wehlander Production Assistant: Ovsana Tsaturian Senior Manager, Channel & Strategy: Lizzy Jones Channel Operations Coordinator: Audrey Carganilla Social Creative Producer: Peter Ditzler, Tommy Bowe Social Strategist: Erica Noboa, Mallory Myers Editorial Coordinator: Kim Wilborn Talent Coordinator: Selina Garcia OTHER SMOSHES: Smosh: https://smo.sh/Sub2Smosh Smosh Games: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshGames El Smosh (Spanish Dub): https://smo.sh/Sub2ElSmosh SmoshCast: https://smo.sh/Sub2SmoshCast FOLLOW US: TikTok: https://smo.sh/TikTok Snapchat: http://smo.sh/OnSnapchat Instagram: https://instagram.com/smosh Facebook: https://facebook.com/smosh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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high intensity focused ultrasound waves, zero incisions. And that very same day, two steady hands. From innovation to action, Sunnybrook is special. Learn more at Sunnybrook. they.sash special. Welcome back to some crazy Reddit stories. Today is all about confessions. And joining me today are Arasha and Spencer. What's up? Have anything to confess today? Yeah, any confessions? I start off with? I might get inspired by other people being vulnerable and then I'll be like, they said something.

Okay. Okay. Arash, I'm glad to have you back here because the last episode you were on was absolutely the most unhinged episode of this show that's ever existed. I wish I remembered. I truly do not recall much of it. I just remember it as a fever dream. It was her and Amanda and it truly the last, if you watched the episode, I'm curious what you thought. I'm sure you put it down

in the comments on that one, but I don't remember much of it. It was like the last video of the last day of the shoot block and we all were just on a lot. Case the giggle. The giggles. We were giggling. We were giggling. We were giggling a lot. All right, well, are we ready for some crazy confessions here? I'm ready to be ready. Okay, let's go. Here's our first story. Comes from True off my chest. The guy I did homework for in high school reached out and now wants to buy me a house. Sick. Assuble. Assu-h This a 29-year-old woman. I've always been good with numbers and responsible. It was more noticeable in school because no one gave a fuck. But given that I have CP, cerebral palsy, and walk with crutches, plus being a nerd, you can imagine I was an extremely easy target for bullying. One year they mixed us, so I had new classmates.

The bullying was worse, but then one of the popular guys would defend me. At first I was confused, but when I saw that he would leave me his notebooks, I understood. And so began our symbiotic relationship. The bullying stopped, and I would do his homework every day. We never talked about it, and whenever he spoke to me, he sounded angry. It was like that for that for that for that for that for that for that for that for that for that for that for that for that for that for thi for thii. And thi. And thi, and their, and their, and their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, he sounded angry. It was like that for almost three years, and his grades went up. I was just grateful I could be at peace in school. We graduated and never spoke again, nor did I see him again. But then a week ago, he reached out on Instagram.

He told me how good life had been for him. He offered to buy me a house and a car. At first I thought it was a scam, but we made video calls. He showed me things and it's legit. Long story short, he is a successful businessman worth millions living abroad. He said he always remembered me because I helped him get where he is now. He said he wanted to repay me because he knew how hard it is to be disabled and a woman in my country specifically. He's not wrong, but I'm actually doing okay right now, so I declined all his offers, but then I received a call from a medical center, the most expensive where I live, mind

you, saying I had three years of physical therapy paid for. How he knew I did physical therapy, I don't know. I still thought it was a joke, so I went there and it was true. I already did my first two sessions and my body feels so much better. I'm still a bunch of question marks because I saw our relationship as purely transactional and now he comes and says he owes me? I'm so confused. I already texted him so we can talk a little bit more about his offers because even though I turned them down he said they'd still be available and hopefully I can have a hand on the wheel to choose some less crazy expensive options. Thank you again.

I feel less guilty now. That's fascinating. Wow, it's kind of hot. I was into the whole like leaving the note. That was crazy. That was the c. Hey, stop that. Yeah, I'm into it.

I guess, I guess somehow in this story at that school he's the most heroic of everyone. It's still not the best. I can only imagine that he's the one feeling guilty, maybe for still being like angry or like coming along with the bullying. Well, he did still like, it's not like, she's like, oh, it's transactional. No, you were being bullied horrendously. Nobody was standing up for you. He stood up for you, but only if you did his homework.

That's really not like an ally. Like, you don't owe him anything just because he was standing up for you. Don't. The only way for you to survive high school was because this guy recognized that you were in a shitty situation and took advantage of it... But clearly he's like remembered he's like I only got to where I was because of the good grades that you got me. So he feels he owes her. He should repay her. I feel like I feel like I feel like I got to sit with this one. Like I'm just like it's this is such a this is almost like this feels fake but this feels like something that would come out of like a fan. It totally feels like this feels like a like a story.

Yeah. And and you know, and I understand her confusion, but yeah, I don't know. I've never been offered a house or a car and it's like, you know, that you've got to, you've got to swallow a lot of pride to kind of take that, like, you know. Yeah, it's I I I I I I I I I down those things too, because like, there's a weird, like, I understand like the feeling maybe of like a power dynamic or something or like. Yeah, I would feel like I owed that. Like, even if I did do something for them, like, yeah, like, th. Yeah, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I to to to to to to to to to to to to th. Yeah, I, I th. Yeah, I, I th. Yeah, I, I th. Yeah, I, I, I, I th. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I th. Yeah, I, I th. Yeah, I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I th. I th. I know, I would feel like I owed them, and, you know, it's really hard to release that. It's also tough, yeah, it's hard to release that. And you also, this person's a stranger now, you know, it's been, yeah. It's been a long time, and it's like, who are you, why are you doing this?

Yeah, you know? I mean, I think maybe she's maybe she's this kind of relationship that's mutually beneficial. So I can only imagine that maybe she's also going back to that time and being like, this is a really nice thing. Again, what will I have to do in order to receive that? And she doesn't really want to sign herself up for that again, which I have to commend, it feels like she's got really good character and it's just, it's so sad that that, you know, that she just called herself an easy target, that that's the kind of stuff that she had to deal with. So it's clearly, I think, kind of twisted her reality a little bit,

in which she doesn't think people can just do nice things for her anymore because she's always had to pay it back in a different way. Yeah. No, she sounds like a really strong individual who's gone through a lot. Yeah. I think it's always crazy to me when I hear about bullying of like people who have like, or in this type of situation where I'm like, this feels like a cartoon, like what? Right, right. Why are you doing this? Like they obviously have zero control over something like that, and kids can be so cruel and that they'll find things that other kids have zero control over or no choice and they'll just be like, well, why are you like that?

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You know, I'm like, I'm like waiting, I'm waiting for something to click me, like, wait, that is fucked up, but it's like, no, that feels. It's just such a, it's a type, occasionally we have stories on this, where I've just never heard of something like this before. Are you guys, are you guys upset at the guy, do you think? Like what are your thoughts on his behavior?

Especially, I think I'm kind of similar to you where I'm like, I don't know what emotion I'm feeling. Yeah. I think I'm kind of just like assessing it. For me, it's like my anger would be better directed at like the actual, like the people who were just absolutely bullying her. I don't know. Frankly, I don't know. Frankly, I don't know. Like it's just like, you know, I think my anger would be better placed elsewhere in this situation. Other than like at the guy who, you know, I don't know, I don't know, maybe he's trying to make good or I don't know. Yeah. I mean, look, I, because I was going to say, in the actual high school, I don't think

he's a good person. I think he's, it was, she kind of calls it like it was transactional. It wasn't like he was looking out for me. It was just like, oh, I can benefit from this person. I thi I thi I thi I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin' thin' thi. I don't he's a he's a he's a he's a he's a he's a he's a he. I don't he. I don't he. I don't he. I don't he. I don't he. I don't he. I don't he. I don't he. I don't he. I don't he. I don't he. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't th. I don't thin. I don't thi. I don't thi. I don't that situation. Yeah. And I think he's someone who's clearly self-reflecting and looking back on his past and going I was really shitty to that person and I benefited a lot from their situation so I need to repay them. And it's right if you have millions of dollars that three years of physical therapy is probably a couple hundred thousand dollars like that's probably nothing to him. Yeah. It's it's certainly. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's certainly. It's certainly. It's certainly. It's certainly. It's certainly's certainly. It's certainly certainly certainly certainly certainly certainly certainly certainly certainly certainly certainly certainly certainly certainly certainly. It's certainly. It's certainly. It's certainly. It's th. If. If. If. If. If th. If you. If you. If you. If you. If you. If you have th. If you have th. If you. If you have th, if you have thi. If you have thi. If you have thi, if you have thi, if thi, if thi, if thi, thi. If a thi. If a thi. If a thi. If thi. If thi. If thi. If th. If th. th. th. th. th. th. It's th. It's th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the thi. the thi. the the thi. thi. they. they. thi. the. thi. thi. thi. the. thiand dollars, like that's probably nothing to him. It's certainly helpful, I think, to, you know, distribute that monetarily, but is there also a world in which he could have been like, let's be friends or let's like connect?

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Right. Someone else said, that's a nice gesture. You should take it and be thankful. Don't turn down somebody who's trying to be kind. While I agree with that at face value, I also am the type to be like, if someone comes out of the woodwork and offers you a house in a car, I'm like, I'm suspicious of that. Yeah. So I'm also like, what is this? You know, because the last time he offered to do something kind to her, there was something he wanted in returnto be like all right now run my business. Yeah, yeah, his work work. There's an update. Given all the support and kindness I received

on the other post I'd like to let you guys know the resolution. We did another video call where I explained to him why I was hesitant to accept and told me some sensitive stuff, which I would have never imagined. At the end, we agreed that he would finish paying the car I had just started paying through a credit, and also we found a little nice apartment in a good zone where I could be more comfortable. I tried to express all my gratitude and I hope he really understood how big this was for me. Also I got to thank him for protecting me in school and tried to make him see how big of an impact it had on my life. I feel like this closed a chapter in my life and I think it's the same for him.

I don't think we'll ever talk again, nor do I think we are friends. He truly lives in another world and our realities are not compatible. I ever go to his country, not the US, l-o-l, I should call him to meet. I don't know if I would. In the end, I'm just happy to see him so accomplished after all that happened in high school, and I'm happy I could express all my feelings and thoughts. Thank you for all your supportive words. They meant a lot to me and help me make a decision. That's well, that's, I guess, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, I guess, that's that. Yeah, wow. Case closed. Case closed. I, hey.

She speaks with just so much grace and dignity, I think. Like, it's just, it's so, like I'm an awe to hear the way that she is like, I'm so happy that he's accomplished so much, like, despite the fact that she was pretty much the reason that he was able to succeed. Yeah, no, that's that's an incredible person right there. Well, hey, I'm glad some something good came her way. Yeah, it sounds like she's been through a lot of hell. So damn. Yeah, it clearly took her to the place of where she is right now, which it seems, hopefully at peace, too.

Yeah, and I'm happy, I'm happy to hear, though, that she was like, I don't really need anything, like, I'm okay on my own. It's like, that's great. Good for her. All right, solid start. Let's get into our next story. My husband to be, wants everyone to know I'm not pure. I get it.

I don't get it. Totally, dude. For real? Uh, okay. Okay. It's exactly what the title says. Okay. It's exactly what the title says. I've been with my fiance for six years and engaged for the past eight months.

I've been doing most of the wedding planning but my fiancé, let's just call him Ryan, we'll give his input here and there. So about a month ago, Ryan out of nowhere said he was talking to some of his co-workers and thinks that I shouldn't wear a white dress. This was tot something along those lines. But I'm set on wearing white. I told him this and I could see that he was annoyed, but he let it go. Two weeks ago I finally picked and paid for my dress and this caused a huge argument. Ryan again came to me very annoyed. He asked to see the dress I picked, but I said no because I wanted it to be a surprise to be to be to be to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, the to be, to be, the the to, the the the to, the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the thruii.e.e. Hea, thrownea, throwne.ea, throwne.ea, thrownea, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne it to be a surprise for our wedding day. He asked me to at least tell him what the color of it was, and when I said white, he

threw a fit. I honestly do not see why this was a big deal. Almost everyone wears white on their wedding. When I asked him what their white on their wedding. When I asked him what the color he thoo, and he told me that brides only wear white when they are pure. For some background, Ryan and I started dating when I was 21 and he just turned 20. He was a virgin when we met, and I only had one other person who was my ex-boyfriend of four years throughout high school.

This caused a lot of problems the first year of our relationship and we almost did not continue dating because of how insecure he felt. After that first year it was never a problem again until now I guess. He went to his mom about all of this thinking she would convince me but she's on my side. So two nights ago Ryan his mom and I stood in our living room and argued about my sex life being shown in a dress. His mom stated that he is no longer a virgin either, so maybe he should wear red too, and he bursted out crying. Ryan is still stating that me wearing white would be deceiving all of the guests and that it is different for guys. This all was, this all has honestly made me

question even marrying this man. I don't know if it's just because everything is so fresh, but I'm really disgusted by him. He's not even religious. so I know this is just about him still thinking about me losing my virginity at 18 before I even knew him. I just needed to rant to anyone about how psycho this is. My first takeaway from this is how fascinating it is about like all these dudes nowadays with this shit, like the Manosphere stuff, but they're not religious. But they're still carrying over the man. Like the man. Like the man sp. Like the man sp. Like the man sp. Like the man sp. Like the man sp. Like the man sp like the man sp. Like the man. Like the man, like the man, like the man, like the man, like the man, like the man, like the man, like the man, like the man, like the man, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like the the the the the the the the the thi stuff, like the thi. I like thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. I thi. I just thi. I just thi. I just thi. I just thi. I just thi.. But they're still carrying over that weird, like Protestant. Like I'm just like, what the fuck, man? You're not religious.

So you understand it doesn't, it's not a thing. I love how even his mom showed up and she's like, sorry, you're a fucking virgin, dude. Yeah, that's, that's really funny. That's so funny. Absolutely, absolutely don't marry that. I, I, she's got to have so many more stories than this. Like, there's no way, there's no he came out like with this, like this cannot, this behavior does not come out of left field. Yeah.

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obviously excluding matters of like safety, hopefully everybody's kind of just trying to learn how to love and how to be in a relationship and so I strongly believe in growth through reflection. But it's it's exactly what she said where he was, he was incredibly insecure at the beginning and this this weird sort of variable about the color of her dress is something that he's so hung up on and and it's it seems like it's it has to do with other people like other people reception viewing her and thinking something about their relationship but nobody goes to a wedding and points at the bride and white and thinks, oh she's wearing white, she's a virgin.

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Um, I imagine it's also probably where he's on the internet because this, we're getting a lot of stories like this. Yeah. Unfortunately, it's a growing thing. So about a month ago, Ryan out of nowhere said he was talking to some of his co-workers and thinks that I shouldn't wear a white dress. So, but I'm just like this crazy, crazy co-worker conversation. No, awful. What's your wife? It's the talk of the office? Yeah. He's also he's 26. Like it's just like dude like 26 you don't even you don't even deserve rights yet. No, well see it's different because you, maturity levels for men and women are also... But like, when you're 20...

I don't know, just 26 and he's still, like, they've been dating for six years, and he still feels so strongly that he's like, you can't wear white to your wedding, like, this guy's got, this guy's got years of work to do. No, yeah, he's done. No, it's I, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's to. to. that's to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. the. th. to. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to do. No, yeah, he's done. Minimum. No, it's I, that's crazy. Cry and Ryan. It's what we've named him. Comments, look, if he is this insecure after six years together,

things are not going to improve. Is he going to mention your impurity in his wedding speech? Is he going to try to leverage this in your marriage to get what he wants? Is he going to demand paternity test for your children? I'd seriously consider what you are signing up for. We had another Reddit story, that's right. We had another Reddit story where this guy started demanding so much from his wife. They'd been married for a while. And he started demanding just a bunch of crazy shit from her,

because before they married, she wasn't a virgin. Just out of nowhere. And it's because of all this shit online right now, but it's like, it's true. If he's hung up about it, it's not going to get better. It's so stupid because if you reversed it, if she was a virgin and he had had sex before, doesn't it. He says it. He says it. Yeah. He doesn't even know why.

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I will start by saying I did not get married. Ryan made that decision quite easy for me. I remember reading a comment that said I had to already be done with the relationship for me to move on so fast. That statement was very true. As much as I want to be the bigger person and not slander Ryan, he deserves it. I won't get into all of our issues the the the th th th th th th the issues th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the issues th thoes th thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thoes thoes. thi. thi. thi. thiol- thiol-a thi. thi. thi. thi. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. much as I want to be the bigger person and not slander Ryan, he deserves it. I won't get into all of our issues, but there are some big ones that I would like to address. Ragam. Yeah, and you're right, there's probably other shit.

The absolute deal breaker for me had nothing to do with the red dress, but instead was all of his little lies that built up through our entire relationship. Ryan is very smart. I can't take that away from him. We actually met because even though I am a year older than him, he graduated a year before me. He did her homework. Yeah. We had mutual classes for someone so smart, he always got caught and dumb lies. As far as I know, he never cheated on me. That was something that I know a lot of people assumed, but even now I don't believe it. There was never any big lie that caused massive drama, but rather a mountain of little white lies that always made me question why. He would lie to people about having allergies.

He would lie about stopping for food before coming home. He would lie about losing weight. He is a healthy weight with a very normal build. He would just lie about so many things that did not matter. My issue with this is I had absolutely no trust in the man over literally anything. I never held him back from doing things and he never asked permission to do things. So him going out of his way to lie about meaningless things really made me start to resent him. I do not think he ever talked to his co-workers about the dress. I think that was another lie. I also think that too.

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I let myself go. I look miserable without him. Eventually, he stopped on his own as I never acknowledged any of it. Even with the online harassment, he never really really, thied, thied, thied, told, to, to, to, to, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toe.. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the the of it. Even with the online harassment, he never really fought to save our engagement. I was actually hurt by how he seemed equally as ready to part ways. We have no contact with each other at all, but I do know that last month he actually got engaged again. All I know about the girl is that she is 23, a hardcore Catholic, and actually looks very, sweet.

For her sake, I hope they work out. I still do not talk to Ryan's mom, sorry to disappoint. She was very kind to me throughout everything, but for me to continue talking to her would be a bit weird. I still got a happy birthday text and a Merry Christmas. I did have a date two weeks after I called off my engagement. That didn't go anywhere and it was never meant to be. if I felt any guilt for moving on, which I had none. I had a huge career shift two months ago and am now living in Philadelphia far away from all the drama. I'm happy with where I'm at and he seems happy with his life.

I don't think I'll ever have to interact with him again. Wow. Well, good for her. All right, Queen. No drama in Philadelphia. Yeah, zero drama in Philadelphia. I think the little lies just shows like just he just no respect for her. Yeah. So, and no respect for anyone. It just seems like a weird guy.

Yeah. You're gonna lie about like dumb things, like make them funny at least. Yeah. Amen. I just am so fascinated by the manosphere because it's just so prevalent right now. And I just wonder if it's like, these dudes are so insecure that when they read these forums that make them believe like, by being a man, you are inherently just great without having to do anything,

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Yeah. All right, next story. This is a 54-year-old man. I am at a loss as what to do with my wife, who's 51, her request. My wife and I have been married since 2001 and together since 1999. She is the most intelligent, thoughtful, caring, loyal person I know, and have always thought of myself as fortunate to have met and married her. She is even today aesthetically beautiful, and men have told her this throughout our marriage. She has always shot them down.

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person, we dealt with them together. After her recovery, she was insistent that we start living life to the fullest, and took a 10-day trip to Europe, followed by a trip to Belize. We also have a trip to the UK and Spain slash Portugal later this year. I am fine with these thiiiii. things, thinks, thinks, thinks, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, she was th, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. After, th. After, tho, tho, the the the the the tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, tho. And, tho. And, tho, th, ththings, building memories and crossing bucket list adventures off her slash hour list. I also understand that these are a result of feeling fragile on her part. She also took up yoga, swimming, and healthy cooking classes. I was fully on board until last week. Last week, she came home from work and told me she wanted a hall pass.

A one-time opportunity for her to have sex with someone else besides me. She said that since her cancer diagnosis diagnosis diagnosis the cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer. A one-time opportunity for her to have sex with someone else besides me. She said that since her cancer diagnosis, her outlook on life has changed, and she doesn't want to be handcuffed from doing things she wants to do. She explained that there is this guy at her work that she has always had some attraction. She had a name ready, dude. She is leaving the company and she had some attraction to. She had a name ready, dude. Talk. He is leaving the company and she will never see him again.

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me for an indeterminate amount of time and that it would be confirmation of my male toxicity and insecurity. Is that gaslighting? Definitely. Absolutely. No, that's some bullshit. That's not male toxicity. We've read so much male toxicity on the show. Say God. That is not male toxicity.

No, no, he's being like, I'm sorry, you can't fuck your co-worker. I don't want to give you a haltasks to fuck. That's great. You're to hope has to fuck anybody. And I know exactly who it is. Yeah, no, that's fucking crazy. I don't consider myself to be toxic. And if not wanting your wife of 20 plus years to have sex with someone else is insecure, then I guess I'm insecure. I told her that I appreciated her talking to me about this,

but approval via coercion is not approval. I also said that I do not appreciate her language in describing my, as of yet, unknown reaction to this very large issue that could affect the rest of our marriage slash life. It's so true, it's just being like, hey, so can I fuck this guy at work? Also, if you say no, I think you're a bad person. But how are you gonna react? The floor is yours. I will fucking hate you forever. Go over, the floor is yours. Yeah. Yeah. Is there any more? There's a lot more.

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For thinking about himself. It's like, wait, come on. And that's where the gas lighting comes in, is that it's rewriting his perspective. like, oh I'm a bad person for not letting my wife cheat on me, which is not accurate to the situation. And the BFF is obviously not helping either. Yeah, whatever the fuck. Fuck them. So you hate her.

So you fucking hate your wife. Yeah. I want to play a matchmaker. Like I want the girl in Philadelphia to their wife. Oh, yeah. Or there's no drama in Philly. . .

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My hope is that he divorces her, but I think she's going to try to make him feel like the worst person ever for like thinking about himself for once. Yeah. I think he freed himself. Let's see if he freed himself. I received a ton of advice that I couldn't possibly respond to. I do appreciate the people who took time to offer advice in the comments or via private message. It has been an exhausting couple of days.

I was hoping that my opposition to her plans would give her pause, but unfortunately, that did not happen. I said I am a hard know and I am not sure how I will feel about you if you go ahead, the today. with, this is for me, it will be one time. What can I say to help you deal with it? You'll get over it. We were meant to be regardless of the situation, remarks leading up to Saturday. She left Saturday, ostensibly to meet her coworkers, but in reality, fuck the guy.

I asked her to text me when she was leaving for the bar. And when she did, I asked her if she was really going to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go through with this. After her response, I am not answering any more questions tonight. I will see you tomorrow. I blocked my wife. Then I did something either stupid or brilliant. I went to the bar where the get-together was happening. Jesus Christ. Oh my God, keep reading. He dressed as the co-worker. Hi, Jeff. Well, not the bar, but a transit bench across the street. I waited for a long time. It was running through my mind leading up to this event that I needed to know who this guy was, maybe to compare myself against him.

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I woke up Sunday morning and put a lock on the master bedroom door. I moved her things to the spare room and left a note asking her to find other accommodations as quickly as possible. I visited another friend who is a lawyer and he gave me some sage advice and a couple of recommendations for divorce attorneys and made introductions. My wife had been calling me numerous times since around 11 or so. Once blocked, the calls go to voicemail. I listened to the first couple but felt nothing but some satisfaction when she couldn't get through to me, and she was obviously becoming concerned.

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through the door, I feel kind of like a child for not talking with her and shutting the door on her but I just couldn't look at her. Monday I got up and ready for work she was waiting for me and asked if we could discuss getting back to normal. I said you have been doing all of the talking for the both of us for the last week. Why don't you continue and left for work? I have an appointment with the attorney my friend recommended for this week. So sounds to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to theeeeee the the that ends but good for him. I'm glad I'm glad. I can't believe like the audacity to be like can we just get back to normal it's like holy shit that's what a reality you built for yourself. And just just was she even was like we talked about this. No we didn't you threatened him and then I think this has been 20 years. I th I this I th th I th th I th th I th I th I th th I th I th th I th th th th th th I th th th th th I th th th th th th I th th th th th thi thi thi. I thi thi thi. I thi. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th has been 20 years. That's my take, like, because there's a lot of couples like that. And it's just like, I don't know, it's just sad that to get to a point where you think you can,

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I suppose you're on Reddit stories, man. I met my wife Bailey, who's 33, nine years ago, through mutual co-workers, and we hit it off immediately. I felt absolutely head over heels with this woman. She was everything I was looking for. I had gotten out of a toxic, dare I say abusive, long-term relationship right before that with a woman, Bailey had been acquainted with, but not friends with. I had her blocked on everything and had no contact with her since breaking up. We got married right after the tail end of the pandemic, bought our first house together, and started trying to conceive.

That was difficult because Bailey has a PCOS. But last year she finally gave birth to our first daughter. I'm having a blast being a dad. It's kind of a dream come true. I finally got my happy life with my perfect wife until last Monday. My laptop's battery shit the bed, so I opened up Bailey's work tablet with an attached keyboard. You can set it up like a monitor to check on some tax stuff. She wasn't home, it was just me and the baby, but we've never asked permission to use each other's devices. We've always been open like that. There's nothing for us to hide, that's what I thought.

When I opened up the internet, I noticed she had the incognito tab open. Never in a million years did I a photo album saved called XX. So I clicked on it. Did I discover an affair? Nudes? Nope. In this Google album were over 300 photos, 348 actually, of my ex.

The woman I was with right before I met Bailey, the woman who tormented me and made me feel worthless. The album said it was started back right around the woman who tormented me and made me feel worthless. The album said it was started back right around the time Bailey and I started dating and was updated as recently as two weeks ago. The photos range from candid shots with family to pictures at her work functions. There were even pictures from her yearbook photos. I don't know how Bailey could have found her high school yearbook photos, photos from vacations, ID photos from work, pictures of her in crowds, screenshots of videos, and screen recordings of videos, just her.

The other people in the photos would be scribbled out or the people would be cropped and zoomed in just on my ex. There were other disturbing things I found too. There was another album with just zoomed up pictures of my ex's hair. Come to think of it, Bailey had recently started wearing her hair different and my ex had a very identifiable hair type. There was another album with screenshots of comments on social media. Of course I can't find them because I have her blocked, like Facebook groups she's in and public posts, and my ex is very low

key on social media. I can't imagine the links Bailey went to find them. My ex literally lives in another country now. There were also different links to the exact outfits she was wearing, like very specific blouses and trousers you'd have to really go looking for to find. A specific water bottle I remembered her purchasing and identical hiking boots and sandals. So basically my partner of almost a decade has been single white femaleing my ex-girlfriend, has secretly stocked her to the point of buying her exact clothes and changing her hair, and now I'm starting to realize Bailey's new interests over the years were just my exes. Bailey has turned herself into my ex.

Everything feels like a lie. The things we share feel like a lie. I threw up and had a panic attack. I looked at our daughter and felt betrayed. I haven't confronted her yet. I don't know if I want to. I want to run away with our daughter. I want to print out all of her pictures.

I want to the tau. that to the table and disappear. I don't know what to do. As far as one of the craziest stories we've ever. Look, that photo album could be anything, man. That could be anything. That is haunting. That's some gone girl shit. I actually, I'm trying to think of myself in this situation and I think I'd rather have found out she was cheating.

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we don't have an update but we do have comments and the O.P. replied to several of them. Okay. Someone said, holy cow. That is definitely alarming. Holy cow! The understatement of the century. Holy cow is what I'd say for really crazy. Gee willacres, bro. The best thing to do is address, address it now, to see what will change if she no longer has someone. The toxic side of me would slowly start mentioning things like, you know, you really do remind me of someone,

and nonchalantly bite into an apple and walk away. This is, what the fuck? No, that's bad advice. That's horrible advice. That's a that, they put their fedora on. A redder, yeah. Oh, just reminds me of someone else. No, this does remind me of someone. Are they fucking in death note? I'm on a boo.

Oh, oh, oh. O.P. I feel like what's worse is that she's subtly made these changes over time under my nose. So my ex has a specific career and Bailey didn't express interest in switching careers to the exact same thing until after I had mentioned what my ex did. Didn't notice at the time, but I remember telling her, X went to school for that. The hair was more recent, the outfits and objects slowly over time. The interests, I'm not sure how much she's stolen personality-wise from my ex, and what

she actually likes. It's all incredibly exhausting and confusing. Someone else said, why do you think you didn't notice her morphing into your ex? How similar is she now? Is it just physical or behavioral interests, job, etc. Opie said, that's a good question, and I'm trying to figure that out myself. It wasn't all at once and it was little things. Honestly, now that I'm starting to nitpick our entire relationship now, about a year ago, she changed religions, thr-a.............A-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-a-s, that's-a-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's-s, that's, that's-s.a-s..a-s.a-s.a-s, that's-s.a-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s.a-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-a-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s. that's exes. Again, I didn't think much of it, but she definitely knew this was my ex's religion. You know, I'm kind of scared for the

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She's never abused me, belittled me, or even called me an asshole as a joke. My ex did the opposite. I don't know if I want a divorce. I just want answers. I want to know who I had a child with. This reminds me, the thing is I've read a lot of stories like this where it's the flip side, where a guy is dating a girl and her ex was awful to her. And I think what a lot of guys think is like, your ex was awful to you and you're still with him. So all of the their their their their th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A thi. A thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. I is a thi. I is, thi. I is, th. I is a th. I is a th. I is a th. I is a th. I is a th. I is a th. I is a th. I is a th. I's thi. I's thi. I's a thin. I'm thin. I'm t. I'm toe toe toe toe toe toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I'm th. I'm to you and you're still with him. So all of these features and stuff you must be so attracted to that you would tolerate being treated so poorly that oh that's what you're actually attracted to. Or maybe in like a twisted way too she's like kind of trying to amend that by being all of those same things but treating him better? Yeah. Which isn't again an excuse but it might be the the the the the the the the the the the the of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the of the. the that's that's the. the. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the. the. the. the. I the. the. theate. I the. the. the. theateate. I theate. I that's that's that's that's that's that same things but treating him better. Yeah. Which isn't, again, an excuse, but it might be some of the reasoning that's going on in her head of why this might be okay, that she's trying to help fix some of that for him.

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My son, his friend's parents want to adopt him. My son, his friends' parents, want to adopt my son. Oh my god. Do we just love your kids so much? I, a 24-year-old woman, am a single mom to my son, Owen, who's eight years old. It's been just us since day one. His father isn't in the picture and has been able to avoid child support for years now. Yes, I've tried everything. My own parents disowned me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me, to to to to to toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th...... th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thean, thean, toean, tooan, tooan, too. tooean, tooean, tooean, toean, toean, thoomoomorrow,'ve tried everything. My own parents disowned me. We aren't on the poverty line by any means, but we definitely live paycheck to paycheck in a one-bedroom apartment. It's not ideal, and I hope within the next couple of years will be someplace bigger.

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They began hanging out a lot after school with Owen going their house. Charlie occasionally came to our apartment, but usually they were at his place, which made sense. I work and there's really not much for them to do here, even when I am off. Summer breaks are easy to find care, as there are several free or low-cost camps that I can put Owen in. It's the shorter break, such as Christmas and Spring, that are harder.

Spring break of 2022, I managed to just miss registration. Page is a stay-at-home mom and offered to take Owen for the week. I was hesitant to ask so much of her, but she insisted. He had a really fun time with them. They did a tad uncomfortable with her spending this much on my son, but at the time I didn't want to deprive Owen of this stuff. Summer came and Owen ended up going on vacation with them. I was again very hesitant, but the experience was something I could never give Owen and it wasn't too far away. He had a blast. I kept tell theirselac-Intau I I I their I kept their. I kept their. I kept their. I kept their. I kept their. I kept their. I kept. I kept. the the the the the the the the theirmed. theirmed. I theirsed. I thau, I theirsee, I today. I today their. I theaughed. I thea. I thea. I thea thea thea thea thea thea. I didn't thea. I didn't thea. I didn't tie. I didn't tie. I didn't their. I didn't tie. I didn't tie. I didn't tie. I ttae. I ttau. I tode. today. today today today today today today today today today today today today today today today today today today tod I could ever pay them back, and they kept insisting that they loved having Owen around.

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They said they could take him to school. I felt weird and said no, it was time for Owen to come home. That's when Nate suggested that Owen stay with them long-term. I could still see him, but they would take care of him. I thought they were joking and said, like, what, you'd be his guardians or something? They got quiet and reality rushed over me. I pointed out that this the movie. It wasn't thi. th. th. th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, the, the, their, the, th, th, th, the, their, their, their, their s their s their, their, their s their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, their their their their their their their their their s the, their, the, the, the, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat assign them as guardians and they would help make this transition smooth. They told me to think about Owen and what's best for him. I told him there was no way in hell I was going to give up my son. I grabbed Owen and we left. I've blocked their numbers. Owen has no clue what's the to tho thoo. I'm their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I's their. I's their. I's their. I's their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their their. their. their their their their their. their their. their. their. their. their. their their s. their their their s. their their their s. their s. their s. their s. their. their. I is their. I is their. I. I's their. I's their. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I'm teeinin. I'm going. teateateateateateauu. tea. tea. tea. tea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea and took the day off work to figure some legal stuff out. Legally they can't take him, but now I know what they want and I'm terrified. I don't want him going back to that school. Do we move? I'm so lost.

And I feel so stupid because looking back, all the warning signs were there. I know Owen is devastated losing Charlie, Paggue. How am I ever going to explain it to him? My God. That is complicated as fuck. First of all, she's not stupid for not seeing that because who in that right mind? That's, this all sounded normal to me. Because like growing up, I grew up in the suburbs and I feel like that was, there was a lot of that shit going on. I'm just like, oh yeah, yeah, I would be like, yeah, it would be like literally like, yeah, it would take like friends on family vacation,

stuff like that. This all sounds normal. Yeah. That all sounded honestly normal to me. I think it was weird when it was like, why doesn't you just stay here long term? Like that felt like the first time that it was like, wait. And maybe like the, you know, he's like, you know, he's like, the, you know, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th...... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that that all, that all, that all, that all, that all, th. that all, that all, that all, th. that all, that all, that all, that all, that oh, he's like the brother my son never had. But also like, you know, like we wanted to have, like, you know, we couldn't give him another brother. I don't know, maybe that, in retrospect, but also a little in retrospect.

Yeah, like having all the info, but in a vacuum, it's like, yeah, no. I could also see someone being like, you know, we wanted to have another kid, we couldn't, but it's so great that Owens around because like it's giving them that person to hang out with that friend. And ultimately, their actions now ripped Owen away from Charlie altogether when they could have integrated it in a different way, had the parents all become friends. And you know, the biggest thing that stuck out to me was, you know, I so the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, their, their, their, their, thin, thin, thin, thin, their, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the biggest thing that stuck out to me was, you know, I so appreciate that, you know, she's a single mom and she's implementing all these great values about how money is and everything and, you know, to be grateful and whatnot. But then here are these, this pair of parents who are clearly looking at Owen and the mom and thinking that that isn't a situation that is also okay just because it's one parent. It's fucking crazy.

It's a crazy view. Like this unfortunately, like, it's just so disrespectful to her. Right. Of like, they're saying, to look her in the eyes and go, think what's best for your son. What's best for your son is for him to not be in your situation. She's plenty capable. What are you talking about? She's doing fine. She's raised a wonderful kid who you now want to adopt. Yeah, bro, what

the hell? I'm gonna play devil's advocate a little. I wonder if like, you know, things aren't as rosy as the the posters. That's always possible with Reddit post. You know, it's like, you know, because she's like, you know, like we like, we like and like, you know, his basic needs are met and, you know, but she's constantly talking about like picking up shifts and things like that. And I wonder if like, you know, maybe, you know, and always putting him like, you know, he's going away to like summer camps and stuff like, you know, maybe and maybe she's not coming home till super late which you know it's not ideal it doesn't mean you should like adopt like you know they shouldn't have just leapt to like hey we want to adopt your son but it's like hey maybe if you need like final financial help or something there's so many

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like help them both out. She's trying so hard. Yes, with every redd. I want to talk to Owen. We never know. Let's get Owen in. All Owen in. Some comments here. It's one thing to offer support for a single parent with less means. It's another to take up guardianship of someone else's child. They're not thinking right and Owen would always be second class to their son. They think they're doing you and Owen a favor, but they're I do see that because yeah, it's like she addressed like, oh well their son still is their son and like it is kind of like

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or unfit or something. And I'm sure they will say they have had Owen for long periods of time because you couldn't handle being a parent. We have an update. Well, what everyone feared would happen did. Tuesday, he returned to school. I told him he could still talk with and play with Charlie. I was hesitant to drop him off, but I figured you can't live in fear. Most afternoons, my son takes the bus to a local rec center for aftercare. I had already told the school everything, and that Nate and Page were not to pick Owen up. I managed to call and even make the the the the the the the to to to to to their, and even even even even even even even even to the bus to the bus to to the bus, the bus, to to the bus, the bus, their, their, their, to their, their, their, their, their, their, toe, toe, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, toe, the, the, toe, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I, I, I, and, I, I, I, th.e, tea, what, what, what, tea,ea, what, what, tea, what, thea, thiii.ea, thi,the school everything and that Nate and Page were not to pick Owen up. I managed to call and even make sure he got on the bus. Aftercare was also made aware of the change in pickup list. Well a half

hour later I got a call that Paige had tried to pick up my son. The front desk refused to release him. Didn't say why, just that she was no longer on the list. She wouldn't leave and the police were called. She was escorted out of the building. While she wasn't brought to jail, there is a police report, and I'm using this to go to court and get an order of protection. Page and Nate are also banned from the rec center, so if they do show up, they will get arrested for trespassing. The police are working on ways to protect us, and the local, the the the police, the police, the police, the police, the police, the police, the police, the police, their, their, the police, the police, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-a, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thr, is is thr, is thr-is. is thr-s. We's is thr-s. Wea, thr-s. Wea, thr-s. is thr-s. thr-s. thr-s, thr-a, is made aware of the situation so they should try to make a claim they're aware of the situation. That's that's that's fucking crazy. That's no that's that is that is kidnapping if you show show up and try to pick up someone's kid without talking to the parent that's kidnapping and they fucking they fucke the train to crazy the the th their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to their their their tho. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. That's their their their their their. their. their. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. That's is is is. That's is. That's is. That's is. T. T. T. T. They's is. They's is. They's thi. They's the. They're te. They're toda. They're toda's. They're toda's. I. They're today. They're. They're today. They're they're they're they're today. They refused to leave? They took the train to Crazytown. They were absolutely just going to put Owen in the car and drive away.

Bro. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Full on. Wow. Page. Girl. Wow. Well, I hate to say that's kind of like the best thing that could happen because now it's documented of like, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're. they're they're. they're. they're. that's kind of like the best thing that could happen, because now it's documented of like, oh, these people are a threat to your son.

I think she, yeah. Like that's, now that it's documented, yeah. Like that, it didn't take long for them to overstep. It just sucks, it just sucks. It just sucks for these like, what kids need is like stuff. And I'm like, no, what a kid needs is like good relationships and like parents. No, and poor Charlie too, right? Like through all of this, they just, they're just kids.

They're just kids. They don't know any better. These two parents are just thinking that they clearly know best enough to go so far to literally commit a crime and separate Charlie from the best friend he's ever had. I don't even think, my take is, I don't even think they're thinking of Charlie. I think they want, this is the life they wanted and they're like, we can just take it from someone else. Yeah, they went on these little family vacations and they're like, oh, how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how. . We're going to make this happen. Yeah, we're going to get what we want because we can, we can buy it. Jesus.

All right, moving on. But damn. These are some crazy ones. Yeah. How old is that one? That's from about a year ago. So I... Best of look to Charlie Owen.

I know, man. All right. Here's our last story. My husband has a second family. Of what? Of rodents? In the attic. The ultimate cliche has happened in my life and I'm absolutely broken. My husband, my rock, has been having an affair for over 17 years. The rock? The rock? My husband, Dwayne the Rock Johnson. My husband, my rock, has been having an affair for over 17 years. We have been married for over 25 years. We have three beautiful children, two in college, and one who still lives at home. But turns out, he's had another set this whole time.

My husband is an insurance broker. He has multiple branches over the country, which he spends week on, week off. Okay, I'm sorry, like a traveling insurance salesman of the second family. It's like the most stereotypical. The most stereotypical thing. As she says, it's most cliche. Turns out on his week off, he's been with his other family in Albuquerque, where his other branches. He's got a fiance, whom he has two kids with, both in their early teenses, the, the, the, their, the, the, their, the, the, their, teens, I found out when I went to make a new Facebook account and when I searched my husband's first name, another profile with another last name

popped up and through that profile were the links to his fiancée's and his other kids' Facebooks. My husband is currently with said family and I know it's him because his most recent post is a photo of him and that other family eating dinner. Among those photos were photos of him kissing the girl and him being fatherly with kids who look nearly identical to my husband. I am absolutely broken. Almost every part of me wants to scream in his face and reprimand him for ruining my life, but another part of me wants to pretend to be ignorant and let it be. Because our life is peaceful, he's good with our kids.

He's the main source of financial income. He's loving, but he's also all those things to another family. Not only would I be tearing a gaping hole into my family, I'd be opening up a vortex for them too. My heart is in shambles. I've never cried so much in my life. My youngest son is currently on a graduation trip with friends and I'm alone till my till my lying cheating bastard husband comes home. My life is absolutely wrecked. It's literally a movie plot. I'm hoping he'll just come home and it'll be a big misunderstanding why he's kissing a woman with a

ring on her finger. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm tempted to pack a bag and just leave. I can't be in the home where we've the home, where we've spent every Christmas for the last 26 years, and where I've been alone on New Year's taking care of our babies while he works his ass off. I just can't. I want to leave a note for him to come home too, to hurt him like he's hurt me, but I don't think that's possible. I don't know how I'll ever face him again. Oh my God. God damn. What a piece of shit husband. Yeah. I'm going to play devil's avic next. No, no.

I think I'm always blown away by this stuff because I've said this before. I would never cheat or have an affair because like that's just not the person. I was about to say because one, like that's not the person I am and like that's, I, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I, that's, I, I, I, I, I, I, that's, I, I, I, I, I, I, that's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's a, that's a, that's a, what a, what a, that, that, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the that, the the the that, the the that, the the that's, the that's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, that's, I, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's a that's person. I was about to say because one, that's not the person I am and like that's to hurt someone like that. But also because lying or having a secret of that nature is so fucking unbelievably stressful. And like I just know I'm like I couldn't. I also I know I couldn't do it. Like I wouldn't do it, but also I know underneath that I'm like, I couldn't, I also, I know I couldn't do it. Like, I wouldn't do it, but also I know underneath that, I'm like, I also could never pull it off. I would be, it would be so immediately obvious that I would just be like, fuck. To have two families for borderline two decades, and to just do that and be nonchalant about that, is I'm just like, you are, I want to see what your to see.....

and be nonchalant about that is, I'm just like, you are, I want to see what your brain looks like. Pretty audacious. I mean, honestly, it sounds like he's not very smart about it, though, because King did two Facebook. But he got away with it for 17 years? That, and see, that's another, this is another situation with like the stalker who on the axe. It's like, you look back on? It's fucking crazy. And it's sad, I feel so bad when people go through shit

for being trusting. Yeah. Like, that sucks. It just mess you up. It's like you did nothing wrong. You should trust people. Yeah. Unfortunately, like that gets taken advantage of,

this, thr this and no one else. The damage is done. Someone else said, he may be waiting for the last kid to leave so he can leave too. Take what you're entitled to, including spouse, spouse support, until you remarry, then never remarry, live in sin and collect his money. Yeah, no, I like it's, Oh, I mean, to give like financial advice, but it's like, yeah, I mean, this is like, you could probably sue him for every...

Oh, well, yeah. Yeah. I agree with that because he can't marry the other person that's breaking the law, so like he's probably, it probably is waiting. Right, right. I definitely have to commend to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tooenc, like tooen. tooen. tooen. tooenc, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, probably probably is waiting. Right, right. I definitely have to commend her for realizing that the families would ultimately be destroyed and it would affect a lot more people. So with that earlier story where she's being empathetic

and it's like you don't owe any. What if he's raising each family and they're going to have to fight each other at a certain point? And whoever is deemed the victor gets his approval and becomes the real family. They get to win the real prize, him. There's an update. Okay. Firstly, thank you so much for the advice. I'm not in any means good with legal things, so all legal advice has been noted.

I've run an attorney. We're discussing the process. He's also told me to gather as much evidence as I could, such as photos off the Facebook, the Facebook, the Facebook, the Facebook, the Facebook, the Facebook, the Facebook, the Facebook, the the pages, text messages, and recent flight information. All has been put into a folder and I'll present it to a judge or jury when we go into some sort of divorce proceeding. Again, not fully clear with specifics, but it's a good sign. I've also been in contact with the other woman. I've told her, explained the situation, and she was equally as distraught.

From what I'm aware, she's financially independent from him and they don't share property. So it seems very clean cut on her behalf. My husband is aware of the fact I know and is currently staying in a hotel, but he is unaware the other woman knows. I confronted him when he walked through the door. He started to cry and plead, and it was honestly kind of pathetic. I mean, I was crying too, but I've chosen to think of him as a pathetic coward for doing this because he is. But anyways, I have my name on the property, we both do, so it's not like I can just kick him out, but he's chosen to stay away for my sake. All I am thinking is if he chose to stay away for my sake, maybe being faithful for my sake, too. Despite this, he's staying away. He's in a hotel, the hotel, thiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th. th, th, th, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, theei. thei. thei. thei. to to toei. thei. theiiiiii. thei. thei. thei. thei. th th too. Despite this, he's staying away. He's in a hotel downtown where he calls every few hours to check up. I'm no longer sad. Well, I am, but I'm way more furious than sad currently. My kids still have no idea, and my youngest thinks my husband

is just working more in Albuquerque because of business problem. I'm still confused as to how to tell them they have two half-siblings and two parents, one, tho, their, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, but I'm thi, but I'm thi, but I'm, but I'm, but I'm, but I'm, but I'm, but I'm, but I'm, but I'm, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha-s, tha-s, tha-s, togu, togu, togu, tha, thau, thau, thau, thau, thau, thau, thathey have two half-siblings and two parents, one with an extra backup parent. I'm just feeling very, very unappreciated and unwanted lately, but your kind words have been so helpful. Thank you guys so much, much love. Sorry, backup parents are crazy. The psychological damage of those so so he's engaged in this woman, they have two kids together that are like older, like teens, but she's financially independent. That's an interesting situation. Right. Like I'm just not heard of a situation like that.

You're just going over there and chilling. Like I'm like, you have two kids together, but like, you're paying, you're covering it all. I guess there's a lot of nuance, probably that she doesn't know yet. Like, she's a page. There's another update. So let's see what's going on. I won't be going into details about the divorce because it is still ongoing, but do rest assured it is happening.

A few people seemed worried I was going to stay with him. And for a period of time, I would have completely cut contact with the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. theck, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, thathea, thathea, thee, thee, that, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, thoes. So. So, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is a thean.ean.ean.ean.ean't, is, is, is, isthat note, I have completely cut contact with him. Our contact is through lawyers only. He officially moved out of the house and my middle moved back in to help out over the break. My kids have, to my knowledge, cut most contact with the other family and we even spent Christmas together. Despite being a little awkward at first, my his ex-fiance and I are trying our hardest to bring the kids together harmoniously. And that'll be the last update.

I'm logging off of Reddit now. I will continue living my life. I'll try to support my kids through theirs, but I'll forever be thankful for the support and love you all have shown. Wow. That's crazy ending. I, okay, can I just say like this is my emotional reaction, okay, not a take? I don't see the need to combine the families. We're gonna make a super-like. Like I don't see, those are two separate families. They're gonna do the same dad, but otherwise they're all the those are teenagers. They're gonna do the John Tucker must die thing. We're all the exes and get to.

I, I don't have a problem with it. I'm just saying I'm like, oh, it's it's curious. It's an interesting choice. I if I was one of the kids, I'd be like, we' we don't having to hang out with like, here's a 15-year-old. Because I'm also of the thought, I'm like, just because we have the same dad doesn't mean we're like family necessarily, you know? Like, I don't know. I have no problem with people disagreeing with that.

I'm saying that's like a something that's going through my head. It feels a little unnecessary. But cool. Good time. Great. Perhaps not necessary, but I think I actually like that. Yeah. Again, I. They got shit to bond over for sure. Yeah, I mean, I guess maybe it's therapeutic. I'm pulling it from all of them got, all of them got betrayed. Exactly. I'm pulling it from like a, they were just blindsided and now have lost a member of their family. And so it's almost like, misery loves company kind of like we're all grieving in a way. She didn't state if the husband is there. Oh, I don't think the husband's there.

I don't think so, no. I mean, it seems like a mixed Christmas and just like, we have also been in contact. Yeah, we even spent Christmas together. Okay, so in that sense, I guess, okay. I can see, thinking about it, how it could be therapeutic of like, hey, we all got screwed over together. Like, one family wasn't more important to him. Like, this was, we all kind of dealt with the trauma.

Exactly. And they are now, because of this man, broken families. They now are missing somebody, they're missing a piece of it. And so I, not only do I not see a problem with it, but it, but it, but it, thia. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, I, I, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, I, tho, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, and I'm, thooo. And, and I'm, thooooooooo. And, tho. And, thoo. And, tho. And, tho. And, tho. And so I, not only do I not see a problem with it, but I actually think it's quite wonderful that they sat together for Christmas. I mean, again, it's based on everybody's comfort. It's so accurate to mention that the kids are definitely much older, and however, they're deciding to deal with it.

If it is something that isn't necessarily comfortable for them, I can also understand being like, their thi a a thiiii and thi and thi and thi and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they're, they're, they're, they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's thi, thi, they's, thi, thi, they's thi, they's, thi, thi, thi, they's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they's thi, thi, thi, they're thi, that, that, they're that, that, that, they're they're they're that, they're they're they're they're they're that, they're necessarily comfortable for them. I can also understand being like, I don't want to meet this other family. I'm not trying to do that. But if everybody is mutually like getting something out of it and they want to be there, I have to say, I think it's a beautiful thing. Yeah, it feels like another Romcom moment. Yeah, I would love to be a fly on the wall for that one for that one for that one for that one for that one for that one. Yeah. What do you guys think was the craziest confession? The stalker one. The stalker one is absolutely. That's wild because we have a whole separate family here. We got a lot of shit going on. Right. But that

that one is just kind of unheard-of. Yeah. You can't predict it. Right. That one it's just like with all the other ones it seems like such a clear solution of what to do. But that one I mean,, I was, I literally was telling the plot of big little lies with the secret apartment. I was like, I don't even know where to begin to escape from that. Because there's your usual shitty human behavior. And then there's just like, wow, that's a one and a million things. Out of all the photos on your partner's laptop. Because like, when someone says, found a bunch of photos on my partner's laptop, there's a couple things that come to mind, but it's certainly not.

Oh, on my partner's laptop are 300 photos of my X. In a crowd, zoomed in. With other faces scribbled out, I'd be like, that's the worst one. Yeah, that's again, like just a matter of, like, personal safety. Yeah. She could be very, very dangerous. Yeah, but there were some wild ones this one. Let me know in the comments what you thought was the craziest confession because this one,

there was, there's too many stories in this one. Thank you both for being here. Thanks for getting through that with me. Confess, we did. Yeah. Oh, I guess we didn't actually confess anything. You didn't confess anything. But you guys don't have any secrets. No, not at all.

You guys are. You guys don't have any secrets? No. Why would you think that we did? When we do a Reddit story? And here's they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they to to to th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to the. to the. the. thi. thi. the. We've fully become, it's fully been boring. And she's like, hey, we need to bring tool masks. She's dressed as change. Ah, I found a new one. We need to bring them all so then we can play Matchmaker and be like, you weren't toxic.

So maybe you should go get coffee. Yeah. Man, that first story is seeming real nice right now. What was that one? That was one where it's just like, oh, this guy contacted me and wants to buy me a house. Yeah. That one's lovely. Oh yeah. I forgot about that. I feel like she should take the house.

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