Snapped: Women Who Murder - Aria Armstead

Episode Date: March 23, 2025

A man vanishes in Fort Meyers, Florida, and investigators must determine if he is a victim or a killer.Season 31, Episode 21Originally aired: Dec 4, 2022 Watch full episodes of Snapped f...or FREE on the Oxygen app: https://oxygentv.app.link/WatchSnappedPodSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:28 and binge entire seasons early and ad-free on Wondery+. ["Wonderful Music"] A troubled teen who worked hard to rebuild his life. He was a good person. Maybe, you know, he had his own issues going on and just got involved with the wrong people. Vanishes without a word. Hi, how many hours do I have before I kiss a lot of missing persons?
Starting point is 00:02:00 Who? My boyfriend. I haven't heard from him in 24 hours. She tried calling. It would ring a couple, and then it would go straight to voicemail. When authorities discover an abandoned car in a beachside community, everything changes. What happened in the car, it's a mystery. It had dirt all over it.
Starting point is 00:02:21 The electronics had been ripped out of the center console. My reaction when we actually opened the door was we have a problem. You could see blood all over inside the vehicle. Somebody had been killed inside that vehicle. Who does all this blood belong to? Anytime you have a homicide, you're never 100% sure of really what happens.
Starting point is 00:02:42 When a surprise suspect emerges, the case takes a frightening turn. They are just friends. It was a lot of minimization. I don't see her as being a mastermind of planning a vacation, let alone a heinous crime. The strangest aspects of this case was what they did afterward.
Starting point is 00:03:02 It was all just really bizarre. I'm a passionate girl. I don't do things like this. On the evening of October 13, 2017, 911 dispatchers in Lee County, Florida, receive a concerning call from 32-year-old resident Francesca Sakulich. What do I have before I can fill out a missing person? Well, if you believe that they're missing, we can send an officer out. I haven't heard from him in 24 hours. The last time I spoke to him was last night between 8 and 9, and he told me he was on his way home.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I'm sorry, I'm on my way home. Who? That's my boyfriend. I'm worried. She called and stated that her boyfriend had not returned home. I was dispatched to the house to take the initial missing person report. When Deputy McMenamin arrives at the residence, he learns Francesca's boyfriend, 31-year-old Matthew Collins, had borrowed her car around 3 o'clock the previous afternoon.
Starting point is 00:04:23 She said that Matthew was going to be going to a haircut in Fort Myers, south Palm Beach Boulevard. From her house to where he went for the haircut, it's probably 30, 40-minute max drive. He had texted that he got stuck in Fort Myers, which really didn't make sense. Like, how'd you get stuck? Did you get stuck? Did your car get stuck? Did you run out of gas? And come 8 o'clock, he didn't make sense. How'd you get stuck? Did you get stuck? Did your car get stuck? Did you run out of gas?
Starting point is 00:04:46 And come eight o'clock, he didn't return home. According to Francesca, by the following morning, Matt still hadn't returned. She tried calling him and it would ring a couple and then it would go straight to voicemail. It was definitely alarming to her. Authorities immediately release a BOLO on the vehicle Matthew Collins was driving at the time,
Starting point is 00:05:12 a Maroon Chrysler 200. The first step of a missing persons investigation is, of course, to verify the person's actually missing, see where they were, see where they were last seen. Kind of just do a lot of background information on them. Authorities spend the next few days speaking with Matthew's friends and family, who confirm that no one has heard from Matthew
Starting point is 00:05:40 since he was reported missing. Then, on October 18th, Lee County Dispatch receives a seemingly routine phone call. The car was found abandoned in an area of Lee High Acres that's not very populous. It's a dead end, but not really any houses around it. The lady that called in, she said basically she walks this same path every day. After several days of seeing the vehicle there,
Starting point is 00:06:11 she thought maybe it was stolen. Deputies were sent to kind of figure out what was going on with it. Deputies run the vehicle's VIN number and discover the car is registered to Francesca Sakulich. When Matthew Collins was originally reported missing, Francesca had reported her vehicle missing with him. As detectives arrive and begin to examine the vehicle
Starting point is 00:06:39 more closely, they make a disturbing discovery. There's this hole in the windshield with some tape over it. After looking at it, they realized that there's a bullet hole in the windshield. My reaction when I first saw the car was, we have a problem. We have a missing person. And we have what appeared to be a bullet hole in the windshield in a vehicle that he was less known to be driving.
Starting point is 00:07:12 For Matthew Collins, life began 1,200 miles north in Williamstown, New Jersey. I met Matt just from living in Williamstown. Matt was a little bit older than me. He was always a good kid. He loved his family. He did have a lot of friends. He was always trying to make people laugh.
Starting point is 00:07:36 A few years after high school, Matt traded the cold New Jersey winters for the year-round sun and sandy beaches of South Florida. There was a relative or somebody that he knew out there, so that's why he went to Florida. Matt worked a variety of jobs, including construction and landscaping. And when the 20-something wasn't working, Matthew liked to have a good time. Matthew liked to have a good time.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Eventually, being the life of the party took its toll. In his early 20s, he got into the drugs and got addicted. When I knew him, I could say we all partied a little bit here and there, but I don't really know what kind of drugs he was using. In 2014, Matt was arrested for burglary and trafficking in stolen property. Matt was known for committing home invasions. He would commonly brag about the amount of money
Starting point is 00:08:36 he would get from these home invasions. It would kind of sustain his lifestyle. He had his own issues going on, and it just got involved with the wrong people. After spending a year and a half in prison, Matt was released in 2016. When he got out of prison, he really tried to turn his life around and live a clean lifestyle. Being in prison, it's a good wake-up call.
Starting point is 00:09:06 After he was in prison, he was a really, really hard worker. His family and even his friends said he was trying to do the right thing. A few months later, in early summer of 2017, he met 32-year-old Francesca Sakulich through an online dating site. And he was with Francesca. They were good together. Matthew wanted to do better, and he
Starting point is 00:09:35 was in a relationship that seemed to be good for him. Francesca herself is a very successful person. She works in the medical profession. After four weeks of dating, Matt and Francesca moved in together. Matt and Francesca were living in Lehigh Acres. He had introduced her to his family. Francesca was wanting the same things he was wanting,
Starting point is 00:10:02 settling down. They were kind of working toward that goal together. But all that progress comes to a grinding halt in October 2017 when Matthew Collins never returns home and the couple's car is found abandoned with a bullet hole through the windshield. When we first saw the car and it was all sealed up and looking through the windows, you couldn't really discern how much blood was actually in the vehicle.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Once we opened the car up, you could definitely tell something had happened. It had dirt all over it. The electronics had been ripped out of the center console and the license plate had been removed. You could see blood all over inside the vehicle. There's a crime that's obviously occurred. Is it Matthew? Is he the victim? Or is he the suspect here? And who does all this blood belong to?
Starting point is 00:11:02 It was time to go and look a little deeper at this and the aspect of it possibly being a homicide. This vehicle, it was immediately towed to our forensics facility where everything was kind of done in a controlled environment. So at this point, they're doing fingerprints, photographing all over the vehicle,
Starting point is 00:11:23 inside and outside of it. We noticed blood on the back bumper of the vehicle and drag marks on the back bumper. I'm like, okay, somebody's in there. Coming up, detectives uncover more troubling evidence. We find out that he was involved in narcotics use and narcotics abuse. And Matthew's love life raises suspicions. Do you have the text messages still? No, I deleted the text messages because of my sanity.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Sanity. October 19, 2017. While processing the vehicle, 31-year-old Matthew Collins was reportedly driving on the night he went missing. Detectives make several disturbing discoveries. There's blood in the front seat. There's a bullet hole in the windshield. So it was definitely concerning. What I could see on the bumper definitely shows that somebody had been placed in the vehicle
Starting point is 00:12:36 or drug out of the vehicle. Investigators brace themselves for what might be inside. We opened it just to make sure, however, Matthew was not located in the vehicle. There's nobody in the trunk, but the trunk did have an extreme amount of blood in it. The blood that was located both inside the trunk area, inside the passenger compartment, and what I could see on the bumper, definitely shows that somebody had been killed
Starting point is 00:13:14 inside that vehicle. There was dirt in the trunk of the vehicle. It didn't look like your typical, you know, dirt that you would get if you put some pots from Home Depot in the trunk of the vehicle. It didn't look like your typical, you know, dirt that you would get if you put some pots from Home Depot in the back of your car. But that's about all that was found in the vehicle. We had very little to go on. We had a car with blood in the front seat
Starting point is 00:13:37 and the trunk and a missing person. And we didn't know, did Matthew take the car and was he involved in some kind of crime? Was he the victim of a crime? Now that a bloody car has been located and seven days have gone by with no sign of Matthew, investigators reach out again to Matthew's father, Mike Collins, hoping to learn more.
Starting point is 00:14:06 He admits his son has a troubled past. Yeah, he got himself in some trouble. He's had a rocky road. He's got a checkered past that would be concerning to some people. And that's when we find out that Matthew has been to prison before. He got out about a year ago. Yeah. I'd say at least a year ago. We find out that he was involved in narcotics use and narcotics abuse.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Matt's one of them. If somebody says something to him, he's going to jump. Has he always been that way? Yeah, pretty much. I mean, he can scrap. he's going to jump. Has he always been that way? Yeah, pretty much. I mean, he can scrap. He's a scrapper. It was out there that Matt kind of had a temper, and he would not be afraid to fight anybody. There were a lot of theories at that point.
Starting point is 00:14:58 You know, maybe he committed a home invasion. Maybe he got mixed up with the wrong person. His dad had seen some behaviors in Matthew that were concerning. The concern for Matthew being back on narcotics was, it was out there. His family was reporting that in the days leading up, he was not feeling well. They were worried that it may have been drug withdrawals. When investigators ask Matt's father
Starting point is 00:15:40 about his son's relationship with Francesca, he voices some concern. Francesca is the one that's been telling me, they call him telling me things. And every time there's something different. Ever since the second day he's been gone, she's made remarks like, oh, he's probably being held against his will somewhere or he's dead. You know, just little stuff like that. Personally, I don't trust this boy.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Francesca, she had kind of made her mind up that something bad happened, and she did talk about it in the past, hence a couple of times. That was a red flag. On October 19th, investigators conduct a formal interview with Francesca. All right. How do you know Matt? I met him off POF in the beginning of July. It's a dating website, Sonia Fish.
Starting point is 00:16:41 And we met in person July 18th, and we were in Sephirotville ever since, so almost three months. You know, we kept saying, we can't believe you can meet someone offline, and it would work out, but it really did. Francesca again shares details about the night Matt went missing. So the last time Francesca saw Matt was at her house, and he had made the comment that
Starting point is 00:17:13 he was going to go get his hair cut at a local barbershop. I waited about two hours. I called him. I said, I'm going to go get food. What do you want? That was probably like 6 o'clock. I had worked that night. I worked night shift. So I went, I got the food, and I got a text.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I want to say 7.15, saying I'm about to be home. So I text back. I'm gonna take a nap. I usually take a nap before I go into work. And then I woke up. He wasn't there. And it was like nine something. So I called, he didn't answer. But there was a message saying I got stuck in North Fort Myers. The phone charger broke. So I don't know if he was covering up something. Maybe he did get into trouble and he didn't want to tell me.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Francesca says she went to work that night and continued trying to call Matt. But it seemed his phone had been turned off. Then Friday I got a text message and it said, this is Tiffany. He's with me now. So I said, answer is Tiffany, he's with me now. So I said answer the phone. I got a message back, something along the lines of, I've been cheating on you. I can't change the person I am. I call back, I text back, but the phone was already off again and it's been off the whole
Starting point is 00:18:41 time. When did you get the text back? That Tiffany one I think was, that was definitely Friday night. At the same time, I'm reporting him missing. Francesca claims she doesn't know anyone named Tiffany, but this new revelation gives detectives pause. There was a reason for her, at that point, to have a broken heart, maybe have some animosity
Starting point is 00:19:07 towards Matthew. Not only that, when detectives try to check her story, there's a problem. Do you have the text messages still? No. I deleted the text messages because of my sanity. I'm thinking, and now you're deleting messages. So how do we know what's going on?
Starting point is 00:19:28 Are you involved now? Coming up, new details emerge about Matt's last known conversations. We get the cell phone and notice that he had made several phone calls to this one number. And can technology bring investigators any closer to the truth? We get the cell phone and notice that he had made several phone calls to this one number. And can technology bring investigators any closer to the truth? The data retrieved told us a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:52 It told us his call history. It showed us his location. None of the GPS coordinates put him anywhere near where she lived. I'm Afua Hirsch. I'm Peter Frankopan. And in our podcast, Legacy, we explore the lives of some of the biggest characters in history. This season, we're talking about the singer and songwriter John Lennon. His band, The Beatles, smashed musical conventions, caused hysterical adulation, and are still the biggest selling band of all time.
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Starting point is 00:21:09 Imagine this, you help your little brother land a great job abroad, but when he arrives, the job doesn't exist. Instead, he's trapped in a heavily guarded compound, forced to sit at a computer and scam innocent victims, all while armed guards stand by with shoot-to-kill orders. Scam Factory, the explosive new true crime podcast from Wondery, exposes a multi-billion-dollar criminal empire operating in plain sight.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Told through one family's harrowing account of sleepless nights, desperate phone calls and dangerous rescue attempts, Scam Factory reveals a brutal truth. The only way out is to scam their way out. Follow Scam Factory on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes of Scam Factory, early and ad-free, right now by joining Wondery+. On October 19, 2017, Francesca Sakulich tells Florida investigators that the day after Matthew Collins disappeared, he sent her a heartbreaking text, stating he had left her for a woman named Tiffany. Francesca did not know who Tiffany was, but it came from obviously Matthew's phone. We also learned that some of her text messages had been deleted, was a little suspicious at first.
Starting point is 00:22:43 After Francesca's interview concludes, investigators file a search warrant to obtain Matthew's cell phone records. The phone records triangulates, pings the phone, you know, where the test hits off the towers and it confirmed that report from Francesca. The timeline and text messages that she was getting from him matched exactly with what she had told us. With her story and cell phone records lining up, investigators eliminate Francesca as a suspect. There was nothing on her end that would make us look at her as being involved in this. her as being involved in this.
Starting point is 00:23:30 The phone also unlocks a lead on Matthew's last known contact. We know that one of the last messages that were sent says he's with Tiffany. When we get the cell phone information from his cell phone carrier, we had noticed that he had made several phone calls to this one number and that phone number came back to a Tiffany. We made contact with her and learned her side of the story. Tiffany told the police that she had met Matthew on a dating site approximately a year earlier, and they had been in touch,
Starting point is 00:24:02 but they had never actually met in person. According to Tiffany, the two were supposed to meet for the first time on the night of the 12th, the same evening Matthew went missing. She's like, he never showed up. It was suspicious that there was this girl in his phone that he had been communicating with, and then they tell her, you know, Matthew's gone missing,
Starting point is 00:24:27 and she's like, well, I've never even met him. We had asked her, you know, one of the last messages that were sent says he's with Tiffany. She was like, I don't really know why. It wasn't me that sent that message. It wasn't me that sent that message. In an effort to confirm Tiffany's story, investigators study Matt's cell phone GPS coordinates for October 12th.
Starting point is 00:24:56 She actually lived down in Naples a little fur away, and none of the GPS coordinates put him anywhere near where Tiffany lived. There was no connection, we believe, what she was saying, and we didn't have anything to say differently at this point. The coordinates show Matt never visited Tiffany, nor returned home on October 12th. But he did stop at an area convenience store northeast of Fort Myers. So the homicide unit went out there and we recovered surveillance video from the time that the cell phone was at this gas station.
Starting point is 00:25:35 The video wasn't that good, but it did show Matthew, again, the passenger of the vehicle, who was definitely a male, and he was taller, get out of the car, come in, and they purchased something. And then they got back in the car, and they acted like friends. Our main task was to figure out who this random guy is that's riding around with Matt. Following the breadcrumbs that they're leaving behind from the GPS locations, they lead us to this house.
Starting point is 00:26:12 When detectives arrive at the home, a man greets them. He claims he is a friend of Matt's, but not the same friend from the gas station's CCTV footage. He had said that he saw Matt that day, and there was a passenger in the car, and the name he brought up was Nasty Nate. There was no arguments. There was no against anybody's will. It was a friendly relationship.
Starting point is 00:26:39 The gentleman only knew him as his alias, Nasty Nate. The gentleman only knew him as his alias, Nasty Nathan. Investigators continue following Matthew's GPS trail until it suddenly drops off. Our homicide analyst located a subject that lived right in the area of where Matt's phone went dead. Right where one of those breadcrumbs was, was the address of Nathan Ortiz. When we did background on Nathan, he resembled the person that was with Matthew
Starting point is 00:27:14 at the gas station. Once we find the identity of Nathan Ortiz, we also learned that he had a girlfriend named Aria. They live at a house right in the area of where Matt's phone went dead. When investigators knock on the front door of the home, they're greeted by a middle-aged woman. We actually make contact with Nathan's parents. They give us statements and they pretty much tell us that Nate and Aria, his girlfriend, do live there but they hadn't been home in a couple of days. According to Nate's mother, 19-year-old Aria moved in with their 20-year-old son earlier that year.
Starting point is 00:28:03 That's when mom had told us about the girlfriend and gave us her information. Mom's talking and we're looking into both of them. I'm sending all this information to our analysts, hey, start researching this person because this is his girlfriend and see what we can get on her. Nathan Ortiz and Aria Armstead met in 2014, and Nathan was easily attracted to Aria's bubbly personality. Aria was a ball of energy at all times. I met Aria at a local costume shop. She was working there, and the store owner was my friend.
Starting point is 00:28:46 She was giggling and kind of jumping around, and wanted to be friends with everyone she met. Aria's effervescent personality was a natural fit in the competitive world of teens and tiaras. She's going around doing all these pageants. She was even voted Miss Congeniality in the Little Miss Florida pageant. Aria loved the experience and she really loved getting to dress up and play a part. But over time, Little Miss Congeniality grew disenchanted with life in the spotlight.
Starting point is 00:29:28 I believe that she kind of had a teenager, angsty relationship with her mother where mom kind of wanted her to do pageants and go a certain path. She would talk about how she didn't like the pressures of performing or potentially being a failure in her mom's eyes. In time, Aria began to rebel. She's going around doing all these pageants, and then she stops, maybe around like the age 16. And I know that she met Nate Ortiz when she was 16. So kind of have to speculate if he had something to do with her change.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Aria loved the attention from Nathan, and she was giddy to be around him. He would convince her to sneak out of the house. He would tell her that he needed her or something bad would happen. For Aria's friends, the more they learned about Nathan, the more concerned they became. Nathan also would try to tell her
Starting point is 00:30:40 that she didn't need to talk to her mom. And that led to her not taking responsibility for herself and not wanting to complete high school or not showing up at her job. In early 2017, when Aria was 18 years old, she moved in with Nate and his parents. She was her eye head over heels for the guy. And it kind of was exciting for her. And she was just along for the ride.
Starting point is 00:31:21 That ride has now led Lee County investigators to Aria and Nathan's front door. As we're talking with Nathan's mom, I'm really intrigued by this area by the side of the house. It's a freshly dug dirt area. It just looked very awkward and very out of place. Now I'm like, okay, so now this is really involved. Now we've really got something here. Coming up, a grim discovery points to a possible final resting place. I thought we had found Matt. And later, investigators come face to face with Aria and Nathan. I'm freaking out in the backseat.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I don't know what's going on. October 26, 2017. 31-year-old Matthew Collins has been missing for almost two weeks. Investigators have just made a concerning discovery at the home of 20-year-old Nathan Ortiz. Nathan Ortiz lives close to the last location of Matthew's cell phone. And one of the things we noticed is right next door, there was earth that was disturbed.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Like something was either dug up or buried, and it was recent. Authorities procure a warrant for the property, and a forensic team is called in to search for evidence. I thought we had found Matt. I thought we had found the people responsible for it. But it turned out not to be the case. The clandestine gravesite is nothing but a dirt-filled hole. In Gravesite is nothing but a dirt-filled hole. Next, detectives execute a search warrant inside the home and the garage.
Starting point is 00:33:31 The most important evidence that we found in the house was the shovels and wheelbarrow that had dirt still on them. The soil is definitely consistent with the elements out in that area. The sugar sand, the clay. Investigators send the dirt samples off for testing and make a stunning connection. The dirt on the shovels and the wheelbarrow matched the dirt that was found in the dug-up area
Starting point is 00:33:59 and also the same dirt that was found inside Matthew's vehicle. After wrapping up the search at his home, detectives know they need to sit down with Nathan. Nathan's mom calls him and says, I have two deputies here. They want to meet with you and talk to you. You're meeting with them tonight. Mr. Ortiz met with law enforcement, brought his girlfriend along with him,
Starting point is 00:34:26 and they both gave voluntary statements. Aria was interviewed first. Detectives start by asking who she and Nate typically hang out with, and Aria casually mentions Matthew's name. What'd you guys do with Yalton Hamilton? All we'd do is literally just drive around, that's it. When Nathan and Aria came in that night, it was a lot of minimization.
Starting point is 00:34:49 They were just friends of Matthew. But when investigators press Aria about the last time she saw Matthew, she makes a surprising confession. When was the last time Yohan Hamilton was by? I'd say October the 12th. Okay. And so did that night, did he just stop by or? He stopped by. Aria claims Matthew stopped by on the very night he went missing.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Matt just kind of showed up out of the blue. They went driving, listened to music. Aria says that as the night wore on, Matthew began using drugs. Conversation broke out. Matt was like, Oh yeah, you know, the game, whatever. He was like, I wish you could do that. He was like, No, I don't do that. No, no, no, no. He was like, What? And he took it offensively.
Starting point is 00:35:46 He got really mad and, you know, a fight broke out between the two. According to Aria, the fight between Matthew and Nathan escalated quickly. He pulled a gun out. He said, F you, I'm going to take your girlfriend. I'm freaking out in the backseat. I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:36:09 The gun was cocked, and he was pointing it at me. And I saw it. I was like, holy shit. I'm trying to deescalate the situation, trying to get him to just calm down. And then all I saw was Nate slap out of his hand. Aria reveals to detectives that as things in the car got out of control, she was not in a normal state of mind.
Starting point is 00:36:32 So I'm pregnant. And it's a very serious, very hormonal, emotional state. My boyfriend's life was in danger. I was panicking. I'm pregnant. I don't know what to do. And in that split second, I just, I didn't even, I just went like that and that was it.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Just tell me what happened. I ended up going to trigger. What happened? He died. Aria kept saying because of her fear for herself and her unborn child and for Nathan's safety because this guy pulled the gun out and said, I'm going to kill you. She felt like this was the only safe thing that she could do.
Starting point is 00:37:13 In Florida, we have the Stand Your Ground law where you have the right to use deadly force if you truly believe that you or another is in grave danger. I freaked out. I asked Nate if he could drive us back home. He went inside, he was freaking out. I'm listening to her tell this story. There was no sense of remorse or guilt whatsoever. I thought, there's no way that this is the true story. Detectives leave Aria and move to another room to talk to Nathan.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Nathan pretty much gives us the same story to the details of the song being played, and then Matthew points the gun at him and he punches the gun out of his hand. And he said, like, all of a sudden, I just heard this, like, gunshot. When we get to the part where Matthew gets shot and Aria shoots him, it's very quick. There's no detail in it whatsoever. Based upon some interviews with family, Matthew had some medical issues with his right hand that would have caused him not to be able to articulate it in a way that at least gave us a clue that Nate and Aureo weren't very truthful about the altercation that took place inside the vehicle.
Starting point is 00:38:35 While skeptical about their account of Matthew's murder, investigators demand to know what followed. We need the entire truth. But it's the bigger shit, like, when we get deeper into the story. All right? Yeah. They said after they had killed him, they decided to dig this grave right next to the house,
Starting point is 00:38:59 which is the area that I had noticed earlier. Where was everybody when you were digging the hole? His parents were sleeping. Was it too hard over there and that's why you didn't finish then? Yes, it was. It didn't really work out. It was like not deep enough and it was very, very obvious.
Starting point is 00:39:20 They ended up going back out there that next night and then they decided we need to move this. Where do you put him when you pull him out? Uh, the trunk. The trunk. Aria and Nathan then drove across the street to a wooded area to bury Matt a second time. After he's buried, what happens? Um, crack a couple trees on him.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Plus until like later, we decide to burn him. Once they buried him, they were like searching how to get rid of the body. And so they decide, oh, well, it says burn the body. So a couple days later, they go out there and unbury him again and light his body on fire. I thought burning him would be faster, but then I stopped because I was like, I'm a pathic girl. I don't do things like this.
Starting point is 00:40:16 They're sitting there realizing how bad burning flesh smells, so they ended up, you know, putting out the fire and then burying him again. This point, we didn't know where Matthew was, so we had asked Aria if she'd be willing to show us. Aria agrees to take investigators to the unmarked grave, just steps away from Nathan's parents' house.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Right there? And that's where you guys dug out? And then you guys placed him in there? So you're saying that his body was burned a little bit? We had just locked down the area. And the next morning, they came out with an excavator, at which point they were able to find human remains with the medical examiner. The medical examiner confirms Matthew died of a single gunshot wound to the head.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Nathan and Arya were arrested for trying to destroy a corpse and tampering with actual physical evidence. Aria was obviously charged with the murder. Coming up, a former beauty pageant contestant faces the fight of her young life. When I found out that Aria was arrested, my stomach sank. It really didn't feel like the Aria that I knew. On October 28, 2017, former teen beauty pageant contestant, 19-year-old Aria Armstead is charged for the murder of Matthew Collins.
Starting point is 00:42:13 She and her boyfriend, 20-year-old Nathan Ortiz, also face additional charges of tampering with evidence and desecration of a corpse. Nathan Ortiz was not charged with murder because she pulled the trigger. He actually did nothing wrong at the time until he agreed to help dispose of the body. When I found out that Arya was arrested, my stomach sank. I felt wholeheartedly that Nathan was at the root of all of it, because it really didn't feel like the Aria that I knew.
Starting point is 00:42:55 As the trial approaches, investigators work to understand the real motive behind Matthew's murder. There's a lot of theories on why Aria had to pull the trigger that day. One of the things that came up later during the investigation about the motive was that this probably was a setup. Matthew wasn't wealthy, but he probably had access to narcotics. And it's a possibility that Aria and Nathan were trying to rob Matthew of whatever narcotics he had on him. What detectives eventually prove shoots a hole in an important detail in Aria's story. Once we had booked her in,
Starting point is 00:43:41 that's when they had made her do a pregnancy test and learned that she wasn't actually pregnant. She was never pregnant. I think it was just part of her story that she wanted to fabricate to make it seem like she was, you know, so scared for her life. What happened in the car, it's a mystery. We got to go on the facts. It's a mystery. We gotta go on the facts. Matthew Collins died in a way that somebody else was responsible for it. And the person who was responsible for it was in the backseat of that car. The only person in the backseat of that car was Aria Armstead. You'd be able to figure the trajectory just based on where the bullet left the windshield.
Starting point is 00:44:24 My personal belief is after talking to Mr. Ortiz for hours and hours on end, is that it happened, but it was typical second-degree murder. You don't have pre-planning. Mr. Ortiz, we actually, after nine to 12 months of negotiating with the state attorney's office, we had come up with a plea agreement of 36 months, three years in prison, followed by 10 years of probation.
Starting point is 00:44:53 But he did have to agree to testify truthfully against R.E.F. The gun was not found originally. They ended up interviewing Nate again later on after he'd already been sentenced to prison. And he told them they tossed the gun into the river and the dive team went out there and ended up finding the gun out there in the river. The attorney that we worked with for the state, you know, basically presented all this to Aria. In the end, Aria Armstead accepts a plea deal. On August 20th, 2018, she pleads guilty to first-degree manslaughter, tampering with evidence, and abuse of a corpse.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Aria got 40 years with possibility of parole. She did shoot somebody. You couldn't tell if it was premeditated or not. Had she got to trial loss, she could have looked up to life. ... Still to this day, I try to ask myself, like, what really happened? I wish we had Matthew's side, but unfortunately we don't.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I know that Aria has attempted multiple appeals at the court and all of them have been denied. I do not know if she's taken any responsibility. I don't think that it is clicking for her other than I'm in prison and I can't go home. So I think maybe the grips of addiction could have came in play and he could have possibly been in the wrong place at the wrong time, but that doesn't define him as a man.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I'm just glad that he got justice and the people that did it are behind bars. Aria Armstead is serving her sentence at the Lowell Correctional Facility in Ocala, Florida. Her current release date is 2036. Nathan Ortiz was ultimately sentenced to 42 months in prison. He was released in October of 2020. Hey, I'm Mike Corey, the host of Wondery's podcast Against the Odds. In each episode, we share thrilling true stories of survival, putting you in the shoes of the people who live to tell the tale.
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