Snapped: Women Who Murder - Camilla Frazier

Episode Date: September 20, 2026

A family of rodeo queens is thrown into turmoil when their patriarch disappears from his ranch.Season 34 Episode 20Originally aired: Mon, Nov 11, 2024Watch full episodes of Snapped on the Oxygen app: https://oxygen.tv/watchsnappedSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Texan rancher mysteriously disappears. His wallet's still at the house. His keys are there. His truck's still there. Did he intentionally leave to get away from something, or is there something more at play? Until the case is turned on its head. Somebody had him when they were asking for a ransom.

We never in our wildest dreams felt like this could possibly be an abduction. And a grisly discovery breaks the case wide. There was rumors on the investigation that it had been cut up by the butcher. Right away, I noticed what I recognized to be a human skull. When evidence points to his inner circle, police home in on an unlikely criminal. They moved in, they didn't have jobs, had no place to go. He sped up with all of the trouble that comes along with this lifestyle. She was going to lose everything and have the job.

nothing. That's the whole piece that set this dynamite into motion. I think this is even wilder than any type of TV script they could have written. The small town of Dalhart is in the West Texas Panhandle about 80 miles north of Amarillo. Dalhart's a really tight-knit community. They always look out for each other. It's a real big agriculture in place. The big thing is the the XIT rodeo that comes around every year, everybody really looks forward to it. But on July 14th, 2017, one of the residents of this idyllic countryside town

has gone missing. One of our patrol officers had a call to the police department on reference a missing person. When he got there, he met with Jamie Frazier and Camie Frazier. The Frazier sisters have deep roots in the community and the local rodeo circuit. Jamie tells police that when she came to the family ranch to tend to her horse on July 11th, she noticed that their 65-year-old father, Joel Frazier, was nowhere to be found.

Jamie was not living in Doward at the time, but she spoke to her dad on a regular basis. He lives there with his daughter, Cammy, and her husband, Corey, Didro, and then they have a son that lives there as well. Jamie comes back to the house on the 12th, but she doesn't see her father anywhere. The 13th, she comes back to feed the horse. Same scenario. Joel's truck's there. Joel's not there. Two days later, nobody seen them.

When Jamie checked the house on the 14th, another red flag stood out. She located Joel's hat, boots, and his wallet. It was very rare for Joel to leave the house without his wallet. When Jamie questioned her sister, Cammy had no inkling of Joel's whereabouts. After Joel's wife had passed away, Cammy'd lived there for several years with Joel and her husband, Corey. Cammy said Joel was an alcoholic, would go for days at a time on a drinking binge. And so that's what she was alluding to, that he was on a bender, he was out drinking. She just believed her dad was off on a gallivaning weekend with a girlfriend somewhere.

to cammy that was his normal and there was no reason really to be concerned at that time cammy's like i don't know where he's at and so jamie started getting suspicious hey something's not right here dad wouldn't just leave i'm going to call the police police tried to pinpoint a timeline of jol's disappearance cammy reported the last time she saw her dad was the 12th and that he wasn't feeling well and she made him a milkshake According to Cammy, she would make him milkshakes because evidently he wasn't eating very well. And she's taking care of her dad. You know, after his wife passed away, Joel got to drinking pretty heavy and stuff.

And his health was declining. Cammy says she assumed Joel was feeling better the next morning because when she went to check on him, he was gone. Talking to Cammy, she said that it was not abnormal for her dad to just, up and leave for, you know, several days at a time and not contact. Jamie doesn't agree with Cammy. She remains convinced something has happened to their father. His wallet still at the house. His keys are there.

His truck's still there. Medication. Overnight bag is still there. If you're going somewhere, you take that stuff with you. With Jamie's dire concerns and Cammy's dismissal, officers assess every possibility. There are some red flags whenever, you know, there's two separate stories from the reporting parties.

One of them was very concerned. And the other one just believed it was him. Being out on one of his normal weekend getaways, unfortunately, there's a lot of parameters that have to be met to show that, you know, this person's in danger before we can move forward. We had to see what's going on with this person. Did they intentionally leave to get away from something?

Or is there something more at play? Joel Frazier was born December 18, 1951, and seemed destined for the life of a cowboy. He and his brother both grew up on the family ranch. Joel grew up here in the Panhound and part of New Mexico. He's been here pretty much all of his life. They owned a ranch, his dad and him, and he grew up on the ranch just outside of Delaware.

They really didn't do anything ordinary than what a farm ranch kid would do growing up. Their dad kept them busy as cowboying, raising cattle, and, you know, doing a lot of farming. And then that went into their adult life. In 1978, Joel started a family of his own with a successful young woman named Donna Petty. Joel meets Donna in his 20s. Donna's in real estate, so she's kind of. kind of got her career going. That would have been very intriguing for a man from small town Dowhart.

And so they fall in love. They get married and end up inheriting the ranch. Less than a year after they got married, Joel and Donna welcomed their daughter, Cammy, into the world. Joel delighted in raising her in the cowboy lifestyle. In these small towns where we have these huge rodeos, Most dads who are into the rodeo scene that have little girls, their little girls are going to grow up learning the whole rodeo scene. And it's huge bonding for a dad and a daughter.

Cammy, she wanted to be the rodeo queen. A rodeo queen is like the homecoming queen of the rodeo. You have to be good at all of the different events in the rodeo, the mutton bust in the rope and the riding. When she won the Rodeo Queen, it'd be a hard to X-I-T-Roteo. rodeo, and he was so proud of Cammy. And I think for Cammy, it was just the spotlight. She wanted to be the center of the kitchen. When Cammy was 13, Joel and Donna added a second daughter to the family, Jamie.

She proved to be just as dedicated to the rodeo as her sister. When Jamie got up at high school, she got the opportunity to run for rodeo queen. Jamie was definitely a better hand on a horse and she was better at roping and you could tell that Joel was a proud man that he was very proud of Jamie. I think, you know, there's a lot of jealousy there because Jamie roped with her dad a lot

and Cammy didn't fall through like Jamie did. Cammy was a little proud for her, but it took the spotlight off of her. As Cammy and Jamie got older, they moved out and started lives of their own. Cammy married Corey Tidro and the couple had a son while

Jamie moved to nearby Canyon, Texas. Through it all, the Frasers remained close net. They at one time had a pawn shop here. They belonged to Joel and Donna, and the girls actually run it. And they were pretty popular

people in town. Donna was the backbone of that family 100%. And I think that's where We're, you know, Cammy and Jamie both that kind of get a little bit of their to nasty from. In 2015, tragedy struck when Donna became fatally ill.

She didn't last long. It was pretty quick death. I know Joel was a different person. He felt like he lost his whole world. It was at this time that Camie and Corey come back and move back in with her father. You know, her father was alone now. She was worried about him.

I do think it was a comfort, you know, and I think it probably helped Joel to have her there. Even though he was surrounded by loved ones, 63-year-old Joel continued to struggle with the loss of his wife. After Donna had passed away, you could tell he was going downhill. I think his answer was drinking. Drinking and roping. I always would have done more roping and less drinking.

Joel's disappearance has left Dalhart police trying to determine if it constitutes an emergency. Cammy said it was not abnormal for her dad to just up and leave for, you know, several days of the time and not contact. It's nothing that anyone should be concerned about at that time because he always comes back. Jamie thought, yes, dad's gone on benders before. But his truck's here, his wallet's here. Something's not right about this. When officers take a closer look at Joel's wallet, Jamie points out something strange. The only thing that was not in the wallet was his debit card.

It was believed that Joel just left and, of course, took his debit card just to fund his trip. Joel's truck was still at the house, so they believed he might have been picked up by somebody. After speaking with Joel Fraser's daughters, Dalhart police ramp up their efforts and conduct a search of the area, looking for any clues connected to the rancher's disappearance. We were told by several of Joel's friends that he would go for, you know, two, three days out of town. But normally everybody was able to reach him by phone.

So it was out of character for Joel not to be reachable. There's a local prison in Dalhart that has some tracking dogs, so they thought, hey, let's call the prison, and let's get the tracking dogs. Let's see if we can track them. We took the dogs at the house, and we started a dog track to see if there was any sign

that Joel had walked away from the property. And after several hours of doing a track, the dogs never left the property and kept coming back to the driveway. Did he get in a car and leave? Or did he never leave? Joel's loved ones receive a heart-stopping message. She had received text messages

that alluded to the fact that, alluded to the fact that they had Joel, they wanted money for Joel's safe return. It has been three days since Joel Frazier was last seen. To ascertain if Joel could have taken off on his own, detectives check his bank accounts for clues. If Joel's out there driving around in somebody's car or with somebody, that's important information. And you could gather that information from the use of this debit card. There was no activity on his debit card. There was no activity on his bank account.

And so they were kind of at a loss for where he may be. News spreads fast in a small town. So before the end of the day, many of the locals have joined in the search. Myself and Jamie, we started a search party for Joe. And we looked and we looked and we looked. We wanted to find him and we wanted to find him alive. Everybody looked at it as Joe was missing. It was a big deal for the community.

After two days with no leads, police expand their manhunt into neighboring states. We were able to get him entered in as a missing person in the national database, as well as putting out a silver alert for his descriptors. Getting those alerts out nationally helped get everybody paying attention on looking for him. Though Cammy is unconcerned over her father's whereabouts, Joel's other daughter, Jamie, enlists the aid of social media. Jamie had taken the department herself to create missing person posters that she posted all over the internet. Jamie was upset.

Her dad's missing, and she's trying to do everything she can to find him. Jamie's efforts soon result in a response from the public. But it's the last thing anyone was expecting. Shortly after the social media post went out, Jamie received a message that somebody had Joel when they were asking for a ransom. Jamie had received text messages that alluded to the fact that they had Joel and they wanted money for Joel's safe return. We never in our wildest dreams felt like this could possibly be an abduction or a kidnapping. At this point, the Howard Police Department doesn't have the resources to complete this, investigation thoroughly.

So we looked for help from the outside. We contacted the Texas Rangers and the FBI to come in and provide extra manpower. Investigators have Jamie contact the alleged kidnappers to negotiate Joel's safe return. We began looking into asking for proof alive. Anything that would prove that Joel was, in fact, with these people.

They said that they would provide that proof, but she needed to pay them $1,000. This time, detectives are able to use the exchange to trace the sender's phone number. What we figured out was the number actually tracked back to overseas. And then furthermore, we found that that particular number was tracked to a batch of numbers that have been used in other scams. A lot of these times, the scammers will see missing persons. reports on social media. If you see this person contact, such a such number, and they try to take advantage of that.

It was determined that one of these scammers had seen Joel's missing person poster. They believed that it would be an easy target for some quick cash. I can't believe somebody would do that to her, you know. Jamie's so heart broke over the whole situation. It basically wasted our time when we could have been focused on another aspect.

trying to find Joel. So we start working on our case again. Police canvass all of Joel's regular haunts, hoping one of his friends might have seen something suspicious in the days leading up to his disappearance. His friend Chris divulges a shocking story from July 11th, the day Joel was last seen. He said there was an altercation between Cammy and Joel.

Happened at the rodeo arena. There was a big blow-up. up a big fight. There was some words spoken like, I don't ever want to see you again. Seven days have passed since Joel Frazier was reported missing on July 14, 2017. But detectives have just found a witness

who may have some key insight. Well, I know the last night that I seen Joel, we'd been out at the XIT Rangers. And we have what we call a practice night when we were practicing our team rober. and Joel was roping a little bit that night. Witnesses say Joel brought Cammy's son to the arena with him, but when he left, he seemed to forget the child.

I guess about 8, 30 or 9 o'clock, Joel had decided to go to the house, and he had actually left the grandson there. I seen him driving out the gate. It was probably 30 minutes later. His daughter showed up. Cammy was very upset about Joel for getting her son, they're at the event.

I'd rode over and talked to her a little bit. She was mad because he drove off and left the boy there. She said, you know, I'm so ready to get rid of him. Investigators are curious to know what Kemi meant. They asked me what I thought, and I thought, you know, I just thought she was talking about putting him in a home or something. According to Joel's friends, his relationship with Cammy had deteriorated in recent months, and the main issue seemed to be her husband, Corey.

Joel, he didn't really care for Corey. Because he wasn't a cowboy, he didn't fit in at all. Joel believes that he was taking Cammy down the wrong road. Corey, he's kind of hard to explain. You can tell when somebody's really shifty, they both were two pieces. in a pod and they fed off of each other. Cammy's story, surprisingly, is one that is pretty common. In this area, methamphetamine is the drug.

And if you get mixed up with that, unfortunately, it's hard to get out. Your life starts going downhill. Somebody who's on top of the world, a rodeo queen, the apple of her father's eye. but it just takes that one person that introduces that one little thing into your life that changes your life forever. In Cammy's case, that was met and Corey. When you see her, when she's 16, 17, 18, 19, 20,

she's pretty and she's got to get a smile. Then you see what years of hard living and methamphetamine have done to somebody, aside from what it does to their life. Those close to the family tell police, they believe Cammy and Corey returned to the ranch with their eight-year-old son, not to care for Joel, but to take advantage of him.

They'd moved in because they were doing dope. They didn't have jobs. Had no place to go. So Joel opened his house up to him, give him a place to live. George had mentioned that they were trying to cook meth at the house and he wasn't putting up with it no more. He sped up with all of the trouble that comes along with this lifestyle that Cammy's been living,

and he's about ready to kick both her and her husband out of the house. To investigators, the revelation puts Cammy's statements in a different light. Cammy just didn't seem too concerned. I think she played it off that this was normal. It's no big deal. And now that's concerning to me as an investigator, why we have lack of emotion for your dad that you live with that you're taking care of, and now he's missing,

and it's no big deal. Why is one sister desperately looking for him and the other nine? We're starting to believe, Kimmy knows more than she's selling this at this time, and that she's maybe hiding something. So it was determined that we would do a search warrant on the house. On July 20th, 2017, nine days after Joel's disappearance,

police execute a search warrant on the Frasier home. While securing the residents to begin the search warrant, I went and spoke to Kim and Corey, and I was able to collect their cell phones until then we would be escorting them out. Inside the house, we located what I knew to be a homemade ice cream maker in the sink, a container for that with a liquid that appeared to be melted ice cream. We were able to find remnants of the milkshake that Cammy had made for Joel over a week earlier. So we took samples of that.

Then we found a purse. Going through that purse, you could tell that based on IDs and so forth, it was going to be Cammy Tidros. And that purse was two items that were interested. One was a bottle of off-brand sleep aid. But when you opened it up, it was nothing but white powder. Not knowing exactly what it was, we went ahead and seized that. Investigators also find something even more suspicious. That purse was an unsigned last will and testament for Joel Frazier

that had been sent from his attorney dated back in April of 2017. It wasn't signed, and as you look through the will, he had changed the previous will to take Camby from being the main beneficiary to change it to Jamie being the main beneficiary and kind of cutting. came out, if you will, of everything in the event Joel died. Finding the will was a huge thing. Cammy is using his assets, using his money, and then ultimately, she gets a letter. She sees, oh, wait a minute, I'm losing everything.

Coming up, a suspect is cornered. Okay. So what are you telling me then? I guess I probably would need a lawyer. And investigators begin to fear the worst. My gut feeling was, you know, ultimately that Joel was probably dead. While conducting a search warrant on the Frazier home, investigators have just discovered an unsigned will

removing Cammy as Joel's beneficiary. When talking to Joel's attorney, the one who drafted the will for him, he talks about how in March of 2017, into April of 2017, Joel came to him and said that he wanted to change his will. Joel's attorney stated that he had just revised Joel's will and sent a copy to the house, and that he never received a signed copy in return. And this happened just before Joel was reported missing.

Since Cammy still lived on the property, if the wheel came in the mail, it's very possible that Cammy might have opened the mail and saw that she was no longer in the will and gotten very upset. Now I have a reason why Cammy's a red flag. There is a motive now about why. analysis of the ice cream and the powdery substance found in cammy's purse provides another clue

it was sent to the amoral crime lab they do drug analysis and part of that is they can tell substances and that's who gave us the reading back that it was dip and hydramine is the ingredient for benedril a sleep in medicine cammy every evening would make joel a milkshake he wouldn't expect to find ice cream with sleep medicine in it. That coupled with the loose powder dip and hydrogen, it all made a lot of sense. After concluding their search, investigators confront Cammy with the evidence.

Cammy, when she met with me at the police department the day after the initial search warned, she was cordial, but she refused to speak to it. She wanted an attorney. I honestly don't have much more to say. Okay. So what are you telling me then? I guess I probably would need a lawyer. My gut fillers. was ultimately that Joel was probably dead, but we needed to find the body to help us with

the investigation. Police obviously have gotten all this evidence pointing directly towards Cammy. However, Joel's still missing, so there's no body. It's very hard to charge anybody with a murder when there's no body. Cammy is released for the time being, but police keep a watchful eye on her movements. police interview Corey over the phone, but he takes the same stance as his wife. This investigation went over several months,

and I know for me, I want things to happen quick. It taught me a lot about patients. As the investigation continues through the summer, police begin hearing consistent rumors from associates of the Frasiers. Rumors swirl in these small towns. Especially the longer someone's missing, that gives more time for rumors to kind of flare up and names get thrown out.

There was rumors in the investigation that Joel had been disposed of. That he had been cut up by the butcher. And when they say butcher, we learned they were alluding to Benjamin Buck. Benjamin Buck's family owned the Dowhart Processing Plant, which is essentially a butcher shop. If you had a cow and you wanted to butcher it, that's where you took it.

They cut it up in a nice little stakes for you. Ben Buck is a known associate of Cammy and Corey, and not in a good way. There's some meth use going on, maybe even meth cells. If someone wanted to get rid of a body, Buck might be the person to talk to. But with only rumors, investigators know they need more. After, you know, we began looking into Ben Buck, we received an anonymous tip that Joel's body would possibly be located at the processing plant across the street where Ben Buck resides. The tipster says that if police searched the meat processing plant near Joel's house, they would find his remains. When we interviewed him, he said that he had heard the rumors.

So he had snuck over there one night. This individual basically had snuck over onto the property and looked in this incinerator. They took a video and sent it to me and said, this is where Joel is. Four months after the disappearance of Joel Frazier, police act on a tip that his body might be hidden in a nearby incinerator.

I think he had been told that's where Joel lives by someone, they wanted to see for himself. Not only do they take a video, but they show in a flashlight in there and they could see Joel's body in there. The building turns out to be owned by the family of Benjamin Buck. When spoke to Ben Buck's mother, Amy Buck, and received verbal consent to search the premises. Amy Buck, the owner of the processing plant, led us to where the incinerator was. and inside that barn were both Benjamin Buck

and his brother Casey Buck and they were salting animal hides which is a process they do to preserve the hides of these animals that butcher. The Bucks tell investigators that the processing plants incinerator has been inoperable for some time but they're more than happy to let them look inside.

Amy had her two boys Ben Buck and Casey Buck show us how to open the incinerate And I remember sitting there watching. They were extremely nervous. They came in and they left and we opened it up. Right away I noticed what I recognized to be a human skull. And as I'm looking closer, I see what looks like,

okay, I know that to be a human hand. In my heart, I knew, I mean, without a doubt, that was Joel Frazier I was looking at. Once we locate the body in the incinerator, the incinerator and I start looking at it a little more closely. I'm able to see the, what turned out to be a dental implant with the initial J. Frazier. Following the discovery, police take Benjamin Buck in for questioning. Over the course of his interrogation, they try to get him to confirm his involvement in Joel's disappearance.

Were you around, Camine and Corey that week? After the, after Joel left him? Well, not really. I mean, I think we went down there one day and say, well, my dad's gone. I'm like, well, okay, where he go? Well, I don't know. For the majority of that seven-hour interview, pressing into him, he just wasn't wanting to give it up. But once I got the right button pushed and got through to him, it's almost as if a rock got lifted off of him.

Would there be a reason why for multiple people? They have heard this statement come out of your mouth. Well, if Corey asked me to help him get rid of the body, I would do it because that's what friends do. I ain't going to help you rid of nobody's body. And yet here we are in the body sitting at your mom and dad's place. But why don't you? Now he'd have to go kill.

Now there's no way out. Benjamin finally tells police that on July 12th, he received a phone call from Cammy Frazier's husband, Corey. Corey told him, I need you to bring some string, a sheet, and a wheelbarrow to Joel's house. When I asked him what he thought that was for, he indicated right away he knew Joel was dead. They had had prior conversations of wanting to kill Joel and how they were going to do that. When he gets into the house, he sees who he recognized to be Joel sitting in a brown recliner in the living room, appears to be dead. were you too far away

were you too far away to tell him his eyes were open or clothes or anything should put our way we'll keep you tell about Jill keep moving it up yeah

Cammy's in there trying to clean up he sees some blood on the ceiling he sees some blood on the chair around Joel Ben says

Cammy and Corey told him they decided to drug Joel to make it easier to kill him Cammy had made the milkshake for Joel and put a medicine in it

In order to get him to go to sleep, he was checked on several times to see if the medicine had taken effect. Ultimately, Joel was shot with 22 in his head. When they found out that that did not kill Joel, they went and retrieved a larger caliber handgun of 45 and shot him with that also in the head. Ben told me that Corey had a shoulder holster with what it looked like a silver or a chrome-plated 45. and Cammy had a pistol on her hip. After they finished cleaning up the crime scene, Benjamin says he agreed to help them dispose of the body. You brought a wheelbarrel?

You brought a twine and you brought a sheet and by your own admission, by your own confession. So you saw them use the twine to wrap around the body? No, but they're not around like the end of the sheet. Like the tile of the end? Like a briegel. At which point, Corey and Cammy wheeled that body in the wheelbarrow down the street because it was only a block away to the processing plant.

In the middle of the night, Corey dumps the body from the wheelbarrow into the skidsteer, and he drives the skidsteer over to this incinerator at the back of the property. They open up the incinerator, and they dump Joel's body with the skid steer into that incinerator. But it's not been functional for quite a while. So Benjamin obtains a propane tank with a wand that's attached to it. Now, this would be something that you would utilize to light and burn off weeds. Cammy lit it for Corey, and Corey stuck that into the porthole up against the body of Joel and left it going. Because as long as you've got that lit and fuel, in this case, propane feeding into it, it's going to run.

They leave thinking that that's going to burn that body and dispose of that evidence and they'll be home free. But Benjamin says things obviously didn't turn out according to plan. It got super hot in the incinerator, which is supposed to do, but it didn't get hot enough to burn the human body. And so what it did is mummified him and preserved him. In their attempt to destroy the body, they preserved it. Benjamin is arrested, and police use his confession to obtain warrants for Cammy and Corey as well.

We arrested Cammy and Corey at the gas station. They're there fueling up, and so we feel like they're fixing to run. Do you give me permission to search your car? No. There was no doubt in my mind that there were the two murders of Joel Frazier, and from there it just became, how do we prove it? After a four-month investigation, Cammy Frazier and her husband, Corey Tidro,

are charged with the murder of Joel Frazier. Their co-conspirator Benjamin Buck agrees to testify against the couple in exchange for reduced charges. Ben ends up taking a plea deal. He is charged with tampering with evidence. Let's be honest about it. Benjamin Buck wasn't the most upstanding person.

He has a history. He's a criminal, but that doesn't mean he can't tell the truth. And there's 100% belief in my mind that in that confession I got from him, I'll say was mostly true. However, prosecutors don't have to rely solely on Buck's testimony. The most important piece of evidence was Joel's body and the autopsy report. They confirmed that medication was used for them to put Joel to sleep. and the entry and exit points of the rounds fired into Joel's skull. It appeared that both shots came from behind,

one of them being a smaller caliber 22, and the other one being a larger caliber 45. Once we were able to get the toxicology results back on his tissue samples and found that there was a large amount of dipohydamine in his system, it all made perfect sense of what we were looking at. Corey is tried first in October 2019, more than two years after Joel Frazier's death. He's found guilty of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison.

Cammy's trial begins two months later, and a key part of her defense strategy is to shift blame onto her newly convicted husband. They never put a gun in Cammy's hand. That doesn't necessarily make her blameless, obviously. She doesn't have to be the one that shoots to be guilty of murder if you participate in it. We're trying to get Cammy as far away from the actual killing as possible as far as culpability-wise, with some hope that maybe the jury would see her as somebody that was connected, but not criminally so. According to the prosecution, Cammy was no innocent bystander.

They argue she was the only one with a strong reason to kill her father. I think the motive for this killing was The fact that Joel took Cammy out of the wheel and left Jamie in the wheel. And so I think that's the whole piece that set this dynamite into motion, the explosion, if you will. I think when Cammy found out that Joel was trying to get her and Corey out of the house and that she'd been written out of the wheel was a breaking point for Cammy. She was going to lose everything and Jamie was going to end up with everything. you know, and I think that's the reason she did.

With her being on the drugs and stuff, I think she just snapped, literally, you know, and did the unthinkable. I mean, how can you kill your father and put him in a senator? In the end, Cammy ends up being found guilty of first-degree murder and receives a life sentence. There's no doubt in my mind in dealing with both Cammy and Corey that they're evil people. They have zero compassion for human life. and I think life in prison for both of them was a fitting disposition.

The story is just really sad. You know, you've got Jamie. She lost her mother, and now she's lost her father. And the person who's her sister is the one who's responsible for it. How do you get past that? I think the only one would be remembered

just as a good old boy, just an old cowboy, you know. He loved his family. He loved his wife. He loved his daughters. Joel definitely didn't deserve to die the way he died. He didn't deserve that at all. You have a father that's willing to give you the world,

but yet you're willing to take his life. You know, what a shame.