Snapped: Women Who Murder - Cheryl Lucero

Episode Date: August 17, 2025

A demolition derby driver is found gunned down in his California auto shop.Season 32, Episode 16Originally aired: Jun 4, 2023Watch full episodes of Snapped for FREE on the Oxygen app: ht...tps://oxygentv.app.link/WatchSnappedPodSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:57 There was this massive pool of blood and there was a clear ground to his chest. A hidden life soon rises to the surface. There's nefarious people that work in this type of a business. You're talking a lot of money. He was not happy in his marriage. There were other folks that he was spending Taiwan. Did anything ever happen between me? No, because I know that he was married.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Amid rumors and false leads, investigators find a very real obsession. She would go to his church, the same grocery store. It was starting to get weird. Her bedroom was a shrine. A lot of pictures of him and his derby car. Ultimately, we were dealing with the fatal attraction. February 16th, 2014.
Starting point is 00:03:06 It's a quiet Sunday morning in Sonora, California, a former Gold Rush Town at the base of the Sierra Nevada Mountains. Sonora is in the foothills. It's a slower pace of life. You can kind of go back 100 years. almost. It's not like city living. Just after 11 a.m., married couple Buddy and Casey Thompson pull into the parking lot of Ricky Roberts U2 Auto Shop. They have stopped by the garage run by their friend, 49-year-old Rick Roberts,
Starting point is 00:03:42 to drop off an ATV they paid to be stored there. Ricky was very good friends with one of my best friends growing up. So we kind of got to know each other more on a friendlier basis. Ricky communicated with my husband, hey, I'm getting ready for church. Go ahead and park in front of the shop if I'm not there. We pulled into the shop and it was quiet. My husband said, hey, wait in the car.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I'm going to go see if he's even here. My husband leaned in and then came out of the doorway and this look on his face. He was pale and just in shock. And he said, you need to go in there. A former first responder, Casey races to the door. I saw him laying there. He definitely had lost a color, and he wasn't moving.
Starting point is 00:04:40 And then I observed a single gunshot wound to the chest. There was blood underneath him. I could tell without even touching him that he had passed. Casey and Buddy exit the shop. She calls 911. When the first responders get to the scene, they find the victim's body on the floor inside. They checked pulse.
Starting point is 00:05:11 It was obvious to them that he was deceased. Ricky Roberts had two wounds. The grazing wound to the left shoulder, also a wound to the center of the chest. Sonora police officers call for backup from the California Department of Justice. They taped off the perimeter of the shop. Nobody was allowed to go in.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Meanwhile, Buddy and Casey struggled to grasp how their Sunday morning took such a dark turn. Ricky was well-respected and well-loved. the kind of person that everybody got along with. So this was just absolutely, like, mind-blowing. What the hell happened here? Why, how? You're trying to make sense of it.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Born on January 2nd, 1965, Rick Roberts grew up in Sonora. Ricky had one sister and three brothers. Ricky and his mother were really close. Ricky was a mama's boy. She was a single mom for most of her life and just raised kids herself. Very Christian-oriented, very strict. Ricky was very close to his mother. She liked him the best out of everybody.
Starting point is 00:06:41 He had a few brothers and one sister, but Rick was the golden child. He'd like to go to his church. with his mom and always be there, you know, for his mom. Following high school, Rick opted to join the workforce. He started doing security work at a pretty young age. He was a man of integrity, and security work just seemed like a natural way for him to make a living. With his career path decided, Rick
Starting point is 00:07:18 He found a hobby that would quickly become a passion, cars. He had a family member who said, hey, you have a lot of energy, you're creative. Let's do this, and we're going to go work on cars. Rick loved to fix cars, but even more, he loved to wreck them. Rick took off, started to learn how to do destruction derbies. Ricky was my uncle, father figure, and we did destroy. Destruction Derby's together and worked with each other a lot. The Destruction Derby is where you get a bunch of old cars
Starting point is 00:07:55 and you make them the strong as you can. The cars would bash into each other, last one standing, typically would be the one to move on. My Uncle Ricky loved it. He wanted to make sure that he made the best of it. In Sonora, Derby was more than a sport. It was a way of life. And Rick Roberts had a reputation.
Starting point is 00:08:17 had a reputation. He was well known all over the surrounding counties for being the Derby King. To support his hobby, Rick rented a garage space in Sonora that he dubbed Ricky Roberts U2 Auto Body. Rick, he just liked the whole process of getting a car, get it, haul it to his place, and then start stripping it out.
Starting point is 00:08:42 In 1990, 25-year-old Rick had a chance encounter at a local bar that led him into a whirlwind romance. When he met his wife, there was a connection there and that she made him feel safe and appreciated. They were like the biggest lovebirds you'd ever see, and she stood right by him through all the derby stuff. In July 1990, they married. They got married up on top of the derby car.
Starting point is 00:09:15 It was adorable, unique, absolutely unique, and it was great. They were very happy. After their wedding, the couple began building a life together. By the mid-2000s, they had added a new member to the family. They had adopted their son, and it was something that they found to be one of the best things that they had done. The child came into the picture. You saw a transformation in Ricky. He was just head or heels for this little boy.
Starting point is 00:09:53 By 2014, Rick was now in his 40s and focused on family and faith. He was devoted to his church and bringing the community together. Ricky loved being part of that and just. Being happy to be among friends and family. But Rick's happy family life is abruptly halted when on February 16th, 2014, the Derby King is found dead on the floor of his auto body shop. When homicide investigators arrive,
Starting point is 00:10:30 a crowd is already gathering outside Rick's garage. Buddy called me and told me what was going on. We all crowded around, friends, family, everybody, and we were all in shock of what happened. Rick's wife came to the shop when the police presence became known. She was distraught, absolutely distraught, emotional, in shock. She was animate about seeing him before they had removed him. Amid the chaos, a neighbor steps forward to speak with investigators.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Crystal Wise did report that she'd heard what sounded like gunshots around, you know, this 1020 to 10.30 a.m. Time frame. Buddy and Casey had called 911 shortly after 11 o'clock. Investigators must determine if the pair missed the killer. by minutes, or if there is more to their story. To find out, Buddy and Casey are escorted to the station for more questioning, while authorities get their first look at the crime scene. There were no signs of force entry. The door was open.
Starting point is 00:11:53 They found his phone. They found his wallet. It had money in it. All of his credit cards were present. We quickly ruled out that this was any sort of robbery. The blood looked still fresh, and so they knew there was a story. smaller time window involved. Coming up, investigators press Rick's friends for answers.
Starting point is 00:12:15 When investigation begins, everyone's a suspect. And they uncover unsettling details about his life. He was entertaining other relationships. When there's infidelity and marriage that opens up all kinds of possibilities and motive. February 2014. Investigators in Sonora, California, are called to the brutal murder scene of 49-year-old Rick Roberts.
Starting point is 00:12:51 This is a small town. To have a homicide is shocking. Rick's friends, buddy and Casey Thompson, who were the ones to find Rick, are on scene. The couple is en route to the station to give their statements. However, Rick's wife begs for more time. They did not attempt to interview Rick's wife in any sort of sensitive way that day
Starting point is 00:13:21 because she was really overcome with emotion. She agreed to be interviewed later, but her focus that day was on their son, who was quite young. Investigators then make their way back their way back inside the shop to get a closer look at the crime scene. Rick was laying sort of on his back in the shop, on the floor of a shop, with a large pool of blood around his body.
Starting point is 00:13:49 There was a gunshot wound to the victim's chest. A grazing wound to the left shoulder. Investigators are unable to locate a weapon, but they do find another potentially important clue. What they located very close to Rick's body was a shell casing. The casing belonged to a 9mm handgun. It was a semi-automatic. There were two gunshot wounds discovered on the victim's body.
Starting point is 00:14:19 However, there was only one expended casing. So the possibility was that whoever had fired the gun ran out of time and quickly just took off leaving the one casing. Authorities bag up the shell for testing. Outside, they come across another clue. So there were footprints on the scene. They compared tracks to Rick's boots that Rick was wearing at the time. They also knew what Buddy Taylor and Casey's footprints were
Starting point is 00:14:54 and where they had parked and entered the shop. But this was a smaller footprint from, you know, not likely a male. It also had a real distinctive boot-type tread on it. They measured it and they photographed it, so we knew the size of it, we knew the tread of it. As they wrap up at the crime scene, investigators consider possible theories. Once you rule out robbery,
Starting point is 00:15:19 this was something possibly a little bit more personal. At the station, detectives speak with Casey and Bowie, with Casey and Buddy Thompson separately. But their stories remain the same. When investigation begins, everyone's a suspect, but they were very, very cooperative. Everything they were telling investigators, really it matched up, and they could eliminate them.
Starting point is 00:15:52 But investigators aren't letting them go just yet. They press the Thompson's for information about who, might have wanted to harm Rick. The questioning got a little bit more specific as to who did he hang out with. How is his relationship with his wife? Casey admits that she has noticed tension in Rick's marriage.
Starting point is 00:16:19 A couple months prior to his death. I was just picking up on the cues of the breakdown communication. There's a problem in the home. While she doesn't know exactly why there's tension between Rick and his wife, she's heard rumors. She wasn't around the shop very often, that myself and everybody knew that there were some marital stresses going on.
Starting point is 00:16:44 He was entertaining other relationships. When there's infidelity in a marriage, that opens up all kinds of possibilities and motive. The following day, Rick's wife agrees to come in for an interview. interview. She confirms that there is some truth to the rumors. She was aware that there had been infidelity, and they were working on that. Rick assured her it was over.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Rick's wife says she doesn't know the names of any women her husband was associated with. When asked for her whereabouts the morning of the murder, she says she was at home with their nine-year-old son. She'd been home all morning with their son, and then he confirmed that his mom had been with him all morning and hadn't left the home. Following the interview, investigators return Rick's personal belongings
Starting point is 00:17:43 to his wife. They gave her Rick's wallet and I think some keys and things to the shop. Rick's wife appears to have a solid alibi, forcing investigators to dive deeper into Rick's private life. They turn to the tight-knit community of Sonora for help.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Now you're going to start looking to talk to Ricky's friends. Anybody that might have information. Friends tell detectives that Rick had a lucrative side gig. Ricky Roberts was dealing in scrap metal. But this scrap metal, what makes it unique is that it's worth money. He would take a lot of scrap metal to these huge recycling centers and get paid.
Starting point is 00:18:37 You're talking a lot of money. Sometimes there's nefarious people that work in this type of a business. And so you want to look into that. The investigators interviewed the workers there to see, hey, did you ever see Rick have any kind of, you know, confrontation with anybody? Was there any problems?
Starting point is 00:18:59 but the promising lead quickly becomes a dead end. Rick was well-known down there. Nobody knew of any sort of, you know, confrontations that Rick had had with anybody, and so those leads really didn't go anywhere. Investigators are stumped until suddenly Rick's wife shows back up and hands them a lead. During the investigation, Rick's wife brought us a photograph
Starting point is 00:19:29 that she'd located in Rick's wallet. She identified the photograph as her husband and her son. But it's the handwritten inscription on the back that gets their attention. The handwriting said, my husband, Rick, and his son, but the son's name was misspelled. And she didn't recognize the handwriting. This isn't her writing. Somebody else is saying that Ricky Roberts was their husband.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Coming up, the mysterious inscription reveals a hidden life. She was at the grocery store, and she just felt that somebody was staring at her. An unsettling obsession takes center stage. He had told her, he wanted her to stop following him. The town of Agda in France is famous for sun, sand, sea and sex. But lately, life on the coast has taken a strange turn. The town's mayor, a respected pillar of the community, has been arrested for corruption. His wife claims he's been bewitched by a beautiful clairvoyant.
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Starting point is 00:22:35 investigators were hitting dead ends until Rick's wife brings them a suspicious photograph. Rick's wife had found the photograph in Rick's wallet. She had noticed handwriting on the back that said, my husband Rick and his son, and she knew it wasn't her handwriting. Rick's wife says she has no idea who might have written the inscription, but it does bring to mind a troubling encounter she had three years earlier in 2011.
Starting point is 00:23:12 She was at the grocery store, and she just felt that somebody was staring at her. This woman had like a cowboy hat on and was dressed all, you know, really Western. It was super creepy. and she got in her car, and the woman followed them. This vehicle followed her all the way up until she got close to her home, and then it veered off. She immediately told Rick about it, and Rick said, oh, I'll take care of it. I know who it is. He initially brushed it off as some woman that's kind of obsessed with me. So then she brought it to Rick's attention, and he assured her it was over.
Starting point is 00:23:51 With this unnerving revelation, investigators make discovering the mystery woman's identity their top priority. They head to the place where Rick spent even more time than he did at the garage, his church. Detectives go to the church, and they started interviewing the pastor and members of the church.
Starting point is 00:24:17 When asked for information about Ricky, longtime member Susan Hume tells them about a woman who started coming to church around three years ago. Cheryl Lucero. Sue tried to prefer Cheryl because she knew Cheryl was a new member. So they tried to make her feel welcome.
Starting point is 00:24:39 However, Susan says that she immediately noticed that Cheryl's eyes were rarely on the pulpit. Susan observed her looking all the time staring at Ricky and the church. Cheryl told Susan that she recently moved from Modesto and worked as a manager at a fast food restaurant. To earn extra cash, she also accepted a job clearing brush. At that time, Cheryl had an apartment in Sonora. My husband, Joe, had hired her to help with some work around our property.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Cheryl was kind of difficult to know. You had to pull things out of her. Cheryl's mother, I believe, lived in Nevada and her father in Modesta. I knew that she had a daughter and a son that lived in another state. She was very quiet, very quiet. In contrast to her quiet nature, the way 45-year-old Cheryl dressed made her hard to miss. Cheryl loved to dress in cowboy gear to look like what some would say rodeo queen. Cheryl's quirky get-up drew the attention of church members, as did her habit of staring at Ricky.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Susan would confront Cheryl about that and tell her that, you know, she needed to basically knock this off. Cheryl's reaction caught Susan off guard. Cheryl's response was like, oh no, God has meant for us to be together. So it was clear that Cheryl wasn't there because she was a member of the faith. It was clear that Cheryl was there because she wanted to be anywhere Rick was, that she could be. Susan says the more she learned about Cheryl's fascination with Rick, the more concerned she got. Sue at one point went to Cheryl's apartment and as they went by Cheryl's bedroom
Starting point is 00:26:52 Sue looked in and there was a shrine to Rick Roberts we're not talking about a photograph on a nightstand it's like a lot of pictures pasted all these photographs of him and his derby car Sue just sort of said what is that this is an appropriate Cheryl like Rick's married Susan's account concerns investigators. Eager to learn more, they reach out to one of Ricky's closest confidants, his nephew Eric.
Starting point is 00:27:29 He tells them that his uncle first met Cheryl back in 2009 on one of their bi-weekly trips to Modesto. After taking the scrap load to the scrapyard, we would go. go to Pandas Express and we would have lunch. We got to be friends with all the employees there. And so this lady named Cheryl was a supervisor. She and Rick were trying to get a sponsorship for Panas Express for his derby car. And so we would get free lunches. Once, Cheryl approached Eric when Rick had stepped away.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Cheryl came up to me one day, and she gave me a little scrap paper with her name and number on it. She asked Eric to give it to his uncle. I was assuming that she was trying to hit on him. I went ahead and just, I ripped it up and threw it away. Soon after, Eric says he and Rick spotted Cheryl everywhere. Cheryl would go to his church, be at the same grocery store, same parking lot, and it was starting to get weird. Rick was starting to get a little nervous.
Starting point is 00:29:00 He had told Cheryl he wanted her to stop following him. But Eric says that didn't work. And in 2010, Rick revealed another troubling development. Rick had shared with him that she had moved up here to Sonora to be closer to Rick and was working at McDonald's. He had told me that the girl was stalking me. She was kind of loony. You can see it in her eyes. However, Eric says Rick felt in the months before his murder that he had the situation under control.
Starting point is 00:29:44 He hadn't had any communication with her for quite some time. He no longer had anything to do with her. When investigators check Rick's phone records, they confirm that he had not been in contact with Cheryl for some time. We didn't find anything related to Cheryl. Two years leading up to his death, there was just no contact. Faced with the fact that Cheryl may be yet another false lead, investigators turn to the only evidence they have, the 9-millimeter shell casing.
Starting point is 00:30:22 The shell casing from the crime scene was processed, and the Department of Justice was able to narrow the type of firearm down to three different manufacturers. We knew that it was a 9mm. Detectives ran anyone that had registered in their name, those types of firearms. They noticed Cheryl Lucero's name. On March 12th, investigators find Cheryl at her work,
Starting point is 00:30:55 a Sonora fast food restaurant, and she agrees to come in for an interview the following day. She indicated that she really didn't know Rick Rock, Roberts very well, that she hadn't spoken to him in three to four years. The detectives asked her on the day that Ricky was shot, what was she doing? She stated she was at work and that she clocked out at 10 a.m. in the morning, and she went straight home. The witness said the gunshots were between 10 a.m. and 11 a.m. Investigators ask her about the gun.
Starting point is 00:31:29 They went on to ask her if she could give them the gun so they could go and check it out. She was cooperating. She tells them that, look, I'll bring the gun in tomorrow. But the next day passes with no sign of Cheryl. She told him she'd bring it in, but she never did. Three days later, investigators try to track her down. The address that they had was listed on the paperwork for the gun, They talked to the landlord.
Starting point is 00:32:07 The landlord tells the detectives she hasn't lived there for two years. So they couldn't find her at that given address. So then it's this whole cat-mouse game, and so they have to keep tracking her back to work. It's like, hey, if you're innocent, why are you playing this? Coming up, a new narrative comes into play. But an even darker truth is exposed. She had created wedding invitations announcing her marriage.
Starting point is 00:32:39 What you see is that she was obsessed with Ricky Roberts. While it's clear the relationship between Rick Roberts and Cheryl Lucero ended years ago, her gun purchase and behavior since his murder has made her suspect number one. She initially said that she was going to bring the gun. But time keeps going by, and now she hasn't even showed up at all. The police go to her address.
Starting point is 00:33:15 They find out she hasn't lived at that apartment in over two years. On March 18th, one month after Rick Roberts' murder, investigators finally track Cheryl down at the fast food restaurant where she worked. She says she had moved and was now living at an address in Twain Hart. I believe it was November of 2012 that Cheryl moved in with us. I thought, well, she's trying to save money, so why don't we just rent her a room, and then she can get rid of her apartment.
Starting point is 00:33:53 They once again told her they wanted her to come in for an interview. She indicated she was busy that day, but that she'd come in the next day, and bring the firearm in so that they could compare it. Investigators leave Cheryl to finish her shift, but they don't take her at her word. Rather than wait for her to come in the next day, the detectives got a warrant and responded to the Twainheart address
Starting point is 00:34:21 she'd provided them that evening. Detectives are met by Cheryl, and later, Yvonne and Joe Ineges. The sheriffs came to our home with a search warrant. They told us that they were investigating the murder of Rick Roberts, and they wanted to search Cheryl's room. It was surreal, and I couldn't believe it was going on in my home. An investigator combs through Cheryl's belongings. He doesn't locate Cheryl's gun, but he does find the next best thing.
Starting point is 00:34:59 So he sort of opens his dresser drawer and he finds a test fire envelope that comes with your gun. When you purchase a gun, they give you a casing that was fired from your gun. Now he has that casing to compare to the casing at the scene. Investigators take Cheryl back to the station. There, Cheryl claims she quit attending
Starting point is 00:35:29 the same church as Rick over two years ago when Rick started hitting on her. I was leaving and he was getting ready to leave and he nodded me over to the side. He was persistent. That's when I decided, you know, what, this, we can't go to this church anymore. Did anything ever happen between him?
Starting point is 00:35:52 No sexual whatsoever because I know that he's married. Investigators steer the conversation to Cheryl's whereabouts on the day of the murder. She clocked out at 10 a.m., and she said she went straight home. The witness who heard the gunshots said the gunshots were between 10 a.m. and 11 a.m. So they knew that Cheryl had time to clock out, drive over to Ricky's garage, shoot him, and then leave. You left work within just a few minutes. And then Ricky's killed a gun that's just like yours. That's not speculation.
Starting point is 00:36:40 It's not speculation. There were two different ways she could have traveled from her place of work. It was approximately seven to eight minutes to Rick's shop. So we knew that she had the ability to make it there shortly after 10 o'clock. The detective continues to talk to her about the case. She talked to her about the case, she's denying any involvement. You get killed it. There's things like,
Starting point is 00:37:01 is something you just don't want to believe that happened? Something that you just can't take back. That's not what that is. Detectives don't let up. Hours into the interrogation, Cheryl suddenly changes her tune. It's an accident. How was it an accident?
Starting point is 00:37:21 Tell me that. Because I was just finding him. I just told him, I want you to leave me alone for good. I don't ever want to hear from me. I don't ever want to see you. I just went there to scare him, is what she says. But the confession makes little sense to investigators. She hadn't seen her talk to Rick Roberts in years.
Starting point is 00:37:48 And then she says that it was an accident. And it accidentally fired not once but twice. Either way, the statement is enough for an arrest. They say, okay, we're going to arrest you. And she says, what do you mean you're going to arrest me? At that point, Cheryl's story changes again. I wasn't there when he actually was killed. No? So that was all alive before.
Starting point is 00:38:15 She is now protecting another person. When asked who this other person was, she tells detectives it's Chris Tinkum. her former boyfriend. She claims Chris knew Rick hit on her in the past and wouldn't let it go. She gives him this gun and just wants him to go over and to scare Ricky. Chris Tinkum is just going to rough Rick up and scare Rick, and then he came back and he'd killed Rick, and she was, you know, surprised. Detectives inform her that she is still under arrest.
Starting point is 00:38:52 So, I don't understand what you're looking at me against my own. You're under arrest right now. Yes, you're not free to leave. One day after Cheryl's arrest, investigators set out to bring Chris Tinkum in. Chris is in shock and eager to clear his name. He has not been in a relationship with Cheryl Lucero for years. He also tells him that at the time of this shooting, he's at his place of employment. His boss, you know, verified that he'd been at work early, so there was absolutely no way that he could have been involved.
Starting point is 00:39:36 After ruling out Chris Tinkum, they started to realize that Cheryl was just making up more lies. They need to focus more on her. The day after her arrest, authorities uncovering her. were a storage unit rented by Cheryl. One of the boxes that detectives found in the storage unit was filled with Rick memorabilia. Among the hundreds of photos, they make a particularly disturbing find. She had created wedding invitations announcing her marriage to Rick Roberts.
Starting point is 00:40:14 What you see is that Cheryl Lucero was obsessed with Ricky Roberts. Coming up, yet another tale of obsession emerges. I discovered that Cheryl was involved with my husband, Joe. Will the truth finally come out? She pointed the gun and she told him, I never want to see you in my life again. The arrest of 45-year-old Cheryl Lucero for the murder of Rick Roberts leaves the small town of Sonora, California, reeling. The next morning, we found out that she had been arrested.
Starting point is 00:41:06 All of it was shocking. In the storage unit, the detectives did. find a pair of Cheryl Lucero's boots and were able to match the tread on her boot to this specific footprint from the crime scene. They were able to take the test fire casing that had come from her firearm and compare it with the casing that was located next to Rick Roberts' body. And the criminalist determined to 100% certainty that her firearm had fired a bullet that shot Rick Roberts. In July of 2014, Cheryl goes to court, and there she pleads not guilty. At her trial in 2015, prosecutors allege that, following a brief affair with Rick in 2012, Cheryl became obsessed.
Starting point is 00:42:02 He quickly realizes he needs to stop this relationship. And by all accounts, he attempted to do that. But Rick couldn't stop her. We were dealing with what ultimately was of fatal attraction. Over the next few years, Cheryl made fake wedding invitations and created a shrine to her unrequited love. Prosecutors allege that almost three years after Rick ended the affair, Cheryl was still stewing.
Starting point is 00:42:43 She was still obsessed, and she just felt that there was no other way to stop her emotional hurt, but to kill him. Two days after Valentine's Day, 2014, she enacted her plan. She left her place of employment at 10 a.m. in the morning. She drives over to Ricky Roberts' business.
Starting point is 00:43:09 There, she confronts him. Her own interview, she pointed the gun at Rick. She told him, you know, I never want to see you in my life again. She shoots not once, but she shoots him twice. She then leaves him on the floor and walks out. She gets rid of the gun. rid of the gun, where it is to this date, nobody knows, except her. In a surprise move, Cheryl takes the stand.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Once again, she tries to cast blame elsewhere. She tries to pin this case on Joe Iniquis. The landlord, that's who she says, was the real person behind the killing of Ricky Roberts. Sometime in April, I discovered that Cheryl was also involved with my husband, Joe. I came home for lunch from work and found them together. I said, you're going to have to leave. I said, I'll give you time to find another place. I was trying to be reasonable, but she still hadn't moved out by June
Starting point is 00:44:30 when the Sheriff's Department came and also interviewed Joe. Cheryl walks the jury through yet another version of events. The motive that Cheryl Lucero gives for Joe doing the killing is that he was jealous because she had told Joe about Ricky and that he was upset and he used that gun and he himself killed Ricky Roberts. The story falls apart when Joe's when Joe's wife Yvonne takes the stand. I knew he had nothing to do with it because he was home at the time of the murder. After a 15-day trial, the case goes to the jury.
Starting point is 00:45:23 On September 4th, 2015, the jury came back with the verdict of guilty of first-degree murder and also guilty of the use of a firearm in a crime. Her sentence was 50 to life, 25 to life on the homicide, and 25 to life for use of the gun. Let her bathe in her mistakes. Let her live in her own misery. She is sitting where she's supposed to be sitting. With Cheryl behind bars, Rick's family is left to pick up the pieces.
Starting point is 00:46:07 He was there for everybody. Whether you were, you know, in a dark place or doing your best, he was there for you. He was just a big, loving man, and his whole purpose was to put a smile on your face. We don't remember him as how he got murdered. He'll always be remembered as the Derby King. Cheryl Lucero is serving her life sentence at the Central California Women's Facility. She will be eligible for parole in 2034. She will be 65 years old. Before the Internet ruled our lives, AOL brought America online with email and instant message.
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