Snapped: Women Who Murder - Daisy Gutierrez

Episode Date: April 30, 2023

A haunting text message leaves the family of a missing young man desperate for answers; as Chicago detectives work through multiple theories, they eventually unearth the shocking truth to his sudden disappearance.Season 30 Episode 07Originally aired: November 21, 2021Watch full episodes of Snapped for FREE on the Oxygen app: https://oxygentv.app.link/WatchSnappedPodSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hi, I'm Lindsay Graham, the host of Wonder East Podcast American Scandal. Our newest series looks at the story of OxyContin, a popular painkiller that helps spur an epidemic of addiction and drug abuse, in which prompted a broad campaign to hold the pharmaceutical industry accountable. Listen to American Scandal on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. When a beloved family member disappears, his last message leaves his loved ones on edge. It was a Spanish word for death. They took it to be a threat or that something

that had happened to him. As detectives race to track him down, they uncover a tangled love triangle. We found out that he may have been dating his brother's ex-girlfriend. Detectives must determine if this is a love triangle. We found out that he may have been dating his brother's ex-girlfriend. Detectives must determine if this is a love triangle gone bad or something much more dangerous. She says I believe that was cartel or gang related. She said a fan pulled up and four guys got out of the car and grabbed us. The search for the truth will have investigators

unearthing secrets, very deep. We're digging and all of a sudden, whatever we hit, a bad smell started coming up from the ground. This is one of the most brutal acts of violence that I've seen in my career. They calculated the entire thing. She just slammed his hands on the table. He's like, fine, I'll It's an ordinary day at the Chicago Police Department when a frantic man rushes in.

The young man who was from Honduras by the name of Jose Réas Ramos was reported missing by his brother Jorge Ramos. According to Jorge, he hasn't heard from his brother in four days. And May 21, 2013, he just fell off the face of the earth. We lived with a cousin and some friends and didn't come home when he was expected to come home. It was unusual behavior for him. It was not in his character to just disappear and not be in communication with them. Tras tarde llamada a los amigos que tenemos en otro estado a ver si a lo mejor se fue para. No pudimos conseguir nada. This is a family that's very concerned that something had happened to Jose Reyes.

They wanted to do everything in their power to make sure that he was found. Jose's brother says when no one came forward, they decided to file an official report. They were seriously concerned, and they wanted help in finding him. Officers have to ask, if there's any way, Jose just packed up and moved elsewhere. But Jorge is doubtful. We, as families,

are always communicative to what we're going to do. We are always communicative but Jorge is doubtful. For example, if someone is going to go, there's always someone from the family who knows that he's going to go back. Jorge fears something tragic may have happened, given his last communication with Jose on May 21st. His brother got a text message from him that kind of disturbed him

and that he was going to go back to the family and that he was going to go back to the family and that he was going to go back to the family and that he was going to go back to the family given his last communication with Jose on May 21st. His brother got a text message from him. They kind of disturbed him, and it was Spanish word for death. That was the last time that anybody had contact with Jose. At first, Jorge thought the text was sent as a joke, but now he's adamant his brother is in trouble. For a text message with that word to appear

was very suspect. It just raises some additional red flags. With no time to lose, officers push his family for details about the 29-year-olds' life. Was there any depression? Did he have any issues with anyone that might have wanted to cause him any harm? Any fights with the family?

The normal questions that we would ask when someone is reported to missy. is reported missing. Jose Reyes Ramos was born in Honduras in 1984. With his father out of the picture at a young age, Jose spent much of his childhood helping his mother care for his younger siblings. Jose era mi primo. Era y no llevamos muy bien. When Jose wasn't in school, he was working to contribute to the household.

In 2008, at the age of 24, Jose moved in with his younger brother Jorge in Chicago and found work in construction. His mother and his younger siblings relied on him and his brother, so they sent money home faithfully on time to Honduras. Jose learned the tricks of the construction trade with ease and ultimately was able to start his own business. I had advanced a lot in the construction. I had been working on the construction site. I was working on it alone.

I was learning to repair apartments, and I was working on it every day. While Jose kept most of his focus on work, Jorge's life was forever changed when he met single mother of two, Daisy Gutierrez at a local laundromat. Daisy was born here in the United States, but her family, her parents immigrated here from Mexico. The Chicago teen had dropped out of high school following the birth of her first child,

but longed to continue her education. She loved being a mom. I think she just was struggling because she was very young and trying to find that balance. I think she just was struggling because she was very young and trying to find that balance. I know she was living with her dad and her mom, so they helped her quite a bit. From the moment Daisy and Jorge met, they were inseparable. She seemed very friendly, very nice.

I think she really was searching for like a family togetherness. Soon, the happy couple learned they were expecting. Jorge was happy to take on the role of a father figure and stepfather. And when he learned that Daisy was pregnant, he was even more excited. Jose was equally ecstatic to be an uncle

and doated on Daisy and the kids. Jose was supportive and trying to be helpful with the children as the uncle. Despite the initial excitement, the reality of parenthood took a toll on Daisy and Jorge's relationship. So, it's all like I had a problem and I didn't try to solve anything.

The relationship was very... like bad. The young parents eventually called it quits, and Jose took on the role as intermediary to keep the peace. Jose would help facilitate with Jorge and, you know, meeting the needs of the children or visiting the peace. Jose would help facilitate with Jorge and meeting the needs of the children or visiting the children. With a new nephew in his life, a booming construction

business and plenty of money to send back home, Jose's future was bright. muy humilde y trabajador. Nosotros venimos de una familia muy emprendedora que trabajamos duro para conseguir nuestras metas. Pero Jose's rise to success crashes to a sudden halt when his brother receives a cryptic text on May 21, 2013. el primer momento de la primera vez en 2013. Y el mensaje es solo decía muerte. De hecho, creo que fue un pensamiento que algo de que fue algo que fue que fue algo que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que fue algo de que Bolo for the missing 29-year-old. The missing person's detectives at a great job trying to find where he could be, work-related, family-related,

checking the airports, the passports. He had ties to Honduras, checking with family and Honduras. Nobody heard from him. Jose didn't have a car. so he would take public transportation. So he'd love to go catch the bus to go somewhere or hit per zooms to go to work. And that's last time that anyone had to see him. When investigators obtain Jose's phone records on June 7, 2013,

it's clear that the Muerte text sent to his brother on May 21st was the last recorded activity on Jose's phone. But that's not all they find. The phone records show that he was calling a phone number that belonged to someone he might have been having some type of relationship with. We found out that he may have been dating, his brother's ex-girlfriend, Daisy Gutierrez.

She engaged in some flirtatious text messages and telephone calls with Jose. After we've seen that Jose had been contacting Daisy in vice versa, we needed to speak to Daisy. Coming up, family drama casts suspicion on Jose's own brother. Maybe Jorge is making up this whole story about his brother missing. And a shocking story turns the investigation on its head. She said they threw us into the car and told us to be quiet. MUSIC

July 2013. Phone records have revealed that the last person that was in contact with missing person Jose Reyes Ramos, was his brother's ex-girlfriend, Daisy Gutierrez. Obviously, I wanted to delve a little more into that. So I went to go interview his brother Jorge. Jorge had an academy. He has no relationship with his ex-girlfriend.

They broke up on bad terms, and he doesn't even communicate with her. According to Jorge, in one of his last communications with Daisy directly, she made a shocking allegation. His brother indicated to me that Jose is mentally in love with Daisy. And his brother and him were at odds about the fact that Jose wanted to date his ex-girlfriend

and essentially become a surrogate father to or his two children, which I found extremely peculiar at the time. which I found extremely peculiar at the time. Maybe Jorge is making up this whole story about his brother missing, and he indeed knows a little more as to why his brother's missing. Detectives press Jorge for more details about his brother's disappearance, but his story remains the same.

After exhausting every angle into Jorge, he is officially ruled out as a suspect. Every angle into Jorge, he is officially ruled out as a suspect. Hoping Daisy might have some answers, investigators pull her address and notice another connection to Jose's cell phone data. The cell tower location history showed that his phone was pinging off towers that led right to the residents where Daisy Coutair has lived on a night he went missing. All our leads were leaving to Daisy. My next step is to see if I get a hold of Daisy,

to see if maybe she has seen Jose. I arrived at Daisy's home and was met by Daisy's mother, who indicated to me that she hasn't spoken to Daisy, and it's not exactly certain where Daisy went. There were children in the home, and I asked, are those Daisy's children? And she said, yes, those are Daisy's children. She's equally as frustrated as I am in trying to find Daisy.

I told Daisy's mother that it's imperative that I speak to Daisy. But over the next several weeks, no one reports hearing from Daisy or Jose, circulating theories among detectives. So, you know, that's when it becomes frustrating. At this point, I'm kind of stuck. I don't know where Daisy is.

I was given some phone numbers, disconnected, or not a good number. I thought to myself that maybe she is with Jose, and that maybe she's just protecting Jose from his family being upset with him. Why again, ask him, how do you live your daily life with your grandkids and not knowing the whereabouts of your daughter?

She informed me that she's gonna try to do her best in locating Daisy and I told her, I'll be back within a couple days to speak to her best in locating Daisy and I told her, you know, I'll be back within a couple days to speak to her if she doesn't get back to me. I would periodically chuck in with her. Then, on August 3rd, two months since Jose's disappearance, detectives receive a break that could clear up some confusion. Suddenly, one day in the office, Daisy Gruteris called me.

She says, you know, I understand you're looking for me. And I said, well, yes. Where are you? I'd like to speak to you in person. She said, well, I'm living in New Jersey now. I decided to move out here with a boyfriend. And I said, well, who's this boyfriend? And she said, just a guy that I met online.

Daisy says her new boyfriend is 22-year-old Milton Miranda. So I asked her, well, what about Jose? Do you happen to know where he's at? And she said, I have no idea where Jose is. According to Daisy, she traveled to New Jersey via bus to stay with her new boyfriend at the end of May. Daisy Guterra stated that she hasn't seen Jose Reyes in several months and hasn't had contact with him.

But detectives know that Jose's cell phone pinged off a tower right next to Daisy's home on the night of his disappearance. At this point, I obviously had the phone records, but I was not going to tip my head. And I really, really wanted to speak to her in person. Before detectives hang up with Daisy, they ask if her boyfriend Milton was in Chicago

around that time. Daisy also told us that Milton Miranda was never in Chicago. After answering detectives' questions, Daisy promises to come to the station when she's back in Chicago to visit her family. While he waits, Detective Matias follows up on her story. She claimed that she was traveling back and forth from New Jersey to Chicago on a Greyhound bus in May of 2013.

When they had the bus records tracked down, there was a ticket purchased for Milton and for Daisy, which Daisy said that Miranda was never in Chicago, so she was lying. The tickets are dated just days after Jose's murder. We needed to hear her side of it. We were going to find out what happened. On August 10th, investigators get the chance to confront Daisy.

I, uh, again, received a phone call from Daisy. Saying, completely out of the blue again, saying, Hey, I'm in Chicago. I'm able to talk. Finally, face-to-face with Daisy, detectives waste no time presenting her with phone records, showing Jose near her house on May 21st the night he went missing. She said, OK, I'm going to tell you what happened. And she goes, let's take a walk. So we take a walk down the block as bizarre as that may sound.

And suddenly her demeanor changed. So we take a walk down the block as bizarre as they may sound. And suddenly her demeanor changed. She changed from this bubbly person to kind of this person that wanted to be convinced me of something. According to Daisy, she had, in fact, seen Jose on May 21st. She said that Jose was coming to bring things for the children initially. Daisy said, he came over in May to visit me.

He took the bus here, and we decided to go for a walk. And after we turned the corner, a fan pulled up, and four guys got out of the car and grabbed us and put hoods over us, threw us into the car, and told us to be quiet and started beating up Jose. A group of unknown men took her and Jose in a vehicle, and then they took them to either the forest preserve or some wooded area on the southwest side of the city, where Jose was killed.

She said that they dismembered the body while Daisy was there. She said that they threw the body in plastic bags and got rid of it by a forest. She says, I believe, that was cartel or gang related that they had it out for Jose for some unknown reason. She had managed to escape and get away from these unknown men. She indicated that she thinks they're part of the Zeta gang in Honduras, which

is a pretty vicious gang that operates in Central America. She said she was extremely afraid. That's why she didn't mention anything to anyone. It was a crazy story, and it opened up a whole slew of other possibilities. Coming up, detectives descend upon the alleged crime scene. I'm going to try to verify as many of the facts as I possibly can.

They went out with a ton of detectives and the dogs. And a new witness emerges with a shocking tale. You said this is what they do, they kill people. We don't want to be next. with a shocking tale. 3. 10 Fold More Wicked Presents Wicked Words I'm a true crime historian and author, and you might have heard my other podcasts on exactly right. 10 Fold More Wicked and Buried Bones On each new episode of Wicked Words, I interview other journalists, podcasters, and authors about the fascinating behind-the-scenes stories from their investigations in the world of True Crime, many of which have never been shared

before. So join me in a new special guest each week for new episodes of Wicked Words, as we dive deep into the stories behind the stories. Wicked Words Season 3 is available now on exactly right, with new episodes every Monday. Follow Tenfold War Wicked Presents Wicked Words wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen early and ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondry app. Less than three months after the disappearance of Jose Reyes Ramos, Daisy Gutierrez has just given Chicago detectives a harrowing tale of his abduction and subsequent death, suggesting it was gang-motivated. Chicago has a gang problem and a crime problem.

I mean, that's no secret. Obviously, I feel we have this. Was he a gang member? Did he get into a beef with anybody recently? Though Daisy's story is compelling, detectives have their doubts. I feel one of the most important things about being a police officer and a detective is always considered your source. She's lied to us in the past.

I didn't think to myself, why would she make up such an elaborate story? You know, because she must know that I'm going to try to verify as many of the facts as I possibly can. As a start, detectives asked Daisy to take them to the forest preserve where she says Jose was killed. They went out with a ton of detectives and the dogs, and they didn't discover anything.

We weren't able to obtain any type of crime scene or anything that could cooperate that part that she was telling us of Jose Reyes being murdered. Still, after working the case for several months, detectives know they are more than likely working a homicide. The fact that she put herself in the middle of something that might have ended violently for Jose, I thought that maybe, you know, Jose is gone.

Despite their worst fears, detectives work to obtain concrete evidence. Finally, on October 4, 2013, less than five months after Jose's disappearance, they get some answers. Daisy reached out to law enforcement again. She said that she was lying. She knew what happened, and she came forward because she was mad at me.

We were really surprised. I brought her into an interview room. She indicated to me that her and Jose did have some type of romantic relationship, but she had developed a romantic relationship with Milton Miranda. She said that she really liked this guy, Milton, and she was kind of tired of Jose always pestering her. And she would tell Milton that.

Jose had been in communication with Daisy and had been texting with her and had a romantic interest. Milton knew about Jose texting her and communicating with her and Milton did not like this and wanted to do something about it. At some point, she invites Milton to come to Chicago to visit her. Milton and her get into a conversation about Jose.

And Milton says, you're texting him, and that's disrespectful. She's like, I love you. I don't care for him. And she says, I'll prove it to you. I'll call him over here. And when he gets here, you could beat him up. Daisy tells detectives that at Milton's request, she invited Jose over to her parents' house

on the night of May 21st. She says that he arrives at the house and that she's in the bedroom with him and Milton is hiding in the closet of the bedroom. And she starts kind of taking her clothes off, you know, to entice Jose. And the plan was that Milton's going to pop out of the closet and beat him up.

Milton Miranda came through the door with a metal pipe and began to beat Jose Reyes. According to Daisy, he used the metal object to initially bludgeon Jose, and then he used a knife from the kitchen to stab him to slit his throat. He stabs them and he falls to the bed and basically notes and stabs what was a to death.

They said she was shocked and disbelieved. She was saying she had no idea that he was going to be killed. She tells the police that wasn't what she understood Milton was going to do, that she was surprised, and that she was terrified at that point in time, because she realized that, in fact, Milton was a dangerous person.

She's afraid if she doesn't cooperate with Milton, that something bad's going to happen to her. Though detectives believe they're getting closer to the truth, they still sense Daisy is more culpable than she's letting on. She's putting all of the blame, or all of the responsibility and everything on to Milton. Daisy says that she thought that he was just going to beat him up. I don't believe that.

You know, you don't have a pipe and a knife ready just to beat somebody up. When detectives confront Daisy with their suspicions, her confident demeanor begins to break down. She felt the pressure from me, constantly disputing her stories that she was telling me. She said, OK, yes. You know, I knew that the only way to get them out of my life is to get rid of him.

So I knew that he was going to pop out of the closet and stand up. She said Jose is laying under bed, and he's dead. And the bed is completely saturated with blood, and she's looking at him like, what are we gonna do now? And suddenly, she says that her father, mother, and brother arrive. She says that her mom and her brother go into the parents bedroom and stay there. Daisy says she enlisted her father's help in a grizzly task. She says that she was just basically watching as Milton cut the body into pieces.

Then her father kind of helped hold some of the pieces down. She said that she helped bag some of the pieces as they were cut up. I'm thinking to myself, OK, that first story of being kidnapped was crazy. This story is, you know, 100 times crazier. According to Daisy, Jose's burial site is close to home. Her mother recently dug out a little garden in their backyard. So they said, well, just dig it out some more,

put garbage bags in there and then cover it up, and then she could plant her flowers there. So she said that's what they did. Daisy tells detectives after burying the dismembered body, she and Milton tried to cover their tracks. She claimed they cleaned everything up. They threw out the mattress because it was full of blood. And her and Milton decided to follow in date

to take a Greyhound bus back to New Jersey. But Daisy says her relationship with Milton Milton decided to follow in date to take a great home bus back to New Jersey. But Daisy says her relationship with Milton was shaken by the crime. Once Milton and Daisy got to New Jersey, the relationship did not last long. Milton, in fact, broke up with Daisy. So she decided she was gonna come back to Chicago and tell the police that Milton really did kill Jose.

I do believe she may have indicated that she wanted to turn Milton in and see Milton caught or arrested. In reality, Daisy was equally interested in luring Jose over to the house, knowing full well that Milton's plan was, in fact, to kill Jose. When she talked about her involvement in this thing, she was under arrest.

Coming up, detectives finally locate Jose. I see the stick coming up with a piece of black garbage bag and something in the ground that is rotting. I mean, it was horrific. October 4, 2013. Investigators descend upon the Gutierrez family home, following a confession from Daisy that she and her boyfriend, 22-year-old Milton Miranda, brutally murdered Jose Reyes Ramos and buried him in her parents' backyard. I take a team of detectives with me. I arrived at her home and I'm greeted by her mom.

I said, we're prepared to dig out the entire yard, but I'd like to see if she could direct me as to where this garden was. Daisy Guterres' mother came outside and pointed to a garden area. And we began to search and dig. We're digging and all of a sudden, whatever we hit,

a bad smell started coming up from the ground. Instantaneously, the smell of death, you know, compasses the backyard. And I see the stick coming up with a piece of black garbage bag and something in the ground that is rotting. I mean, it was horrific. I don't know how anybody can sit there and cut a human bean into multiple pieces. We sealed the entire home, as far as,

considered a crime scene, and we get some of the crime lab investigators in there so they could methodically go through the entire home and yard together anything that we feel may be of evidence. Droplets of blood were located inside of the bedroom on the blinds. I believe on the window frame inside of the bedroom, as well as in a event, the grading of event,

in the area where the body was, in fact, a number. We did take some other objects that we suspected might have been used in the mutilation, you know, tools in cutting instruments and, et cetera. Her mom denied knowing it was back there. She indicated that she had no idea what occurred and she never saw anything. The remains and recovered evidence from the house are transported to the crime lab for further analysis. Of course, we weren't certain it was Jose until DNA results came back, but we presumed it was. As they await confirmation, detectives arrest Daisy's father,

56-year-old Salvador Gutierrez, and bring him in for questioning. Under pressure, Salvador admits to helping Barry Jose's body. He said that when he got back to the house, Daisy took him into the room and said, I got to show you something. And he went to the room and that's where Jose was laying face up on the bed. I think the father was led to believe that the victim was harassing Daisy. He claims that Milton forced him to help him.

He said that Daisy told him that Miranda was in a gang, and this is what they do, they kill people. He was scared that something was going to happen to him or his family, so he went along with the whole thing. He believed that he was helping his daughter stay out of trouble. Salvador tells detectives after that, he bought bus tickets for Milton and Daisy and told them to never come back.

She was kicked out after this crime had occurred and sent back to New Jersey with Milton. The children stayed with her mother. It appears Salvador is telling the truth with perhaps one exception. He's telling it just like a story, but I don't recall, oh my God, you know what I mean? This is disgusting.

You know, he said he was forced, but I don't know how much. After placing Salvador under arrest, investigators finally receive word from the medical examiner. Please could be certain that this was, in fact, the remains of Jose. As Jose's family grieves, detectives reach out to their counterparts in New Jersey, Milton's last known location. He's a flight rescuer because he came from Honduras. He was not here legally. He's a flight risk because he came from Honduras.

He was not here legally. He's not in Chicago. He's out of the state. And obviously, there is a concern that he could easily leave the country. Luckily, New Jersey detectives are able to move in fast before Milton has a chance to flee. At the time of his arrest, he was working in a bakery

in this town in New Jersey. I went down to go interview him. He agreed to give me a statement. He's got a kind of bit of a tough guy personality initially. After some time of blatantly denying any involvement and anything, he just slammed his hands on the table and he's like,

fine, you know, I'll just tell you what happened. He finally opened up and confessed to his involvement in the entire incident. He had no remorse, and in fact, in his interview, I believe that Milton Bragg bragged that he had been involved in a gang in Central America. That's where he learned how to do this in terms of dismembering a body, disposing of a body.

Coming up, the three suspects scrambled to save themselves. In exchange for that, please, she was going to have to testify against Milton. And Jose's loved one's question, if justice will ever be served. It was another slap in the face by Daisy. After a four-month-long investigation, three people now face charges for their roles in the murder of Jose Reyes Ramos. Well, to Miranda was charged with first-degree murder

and concealing a death related to homicide. Daisy Guterres was charged with first-degree murder and also concealing a death. In Salvador, Guterres Daisy's father was charged with first-degree murder and also concealing a death. In Salvador, Goucheris Daisy's father was charged with concealing a death related to homicide. However, detectives still believe there is one person at the center of the case

with a twisted motive. Daisy was trying to mess around with Jose because she was trying to get back at Jose's brother. She was trying to make him mad, and I guess that just wasn't enough for her. Dazy's motive was two parts. She wanted to profess and show her love to her new man, Milton Miranda.

And she felt that by lowering Jose to the house and essentially having him killed, that that proves to Milton that she loves him. Also, she felt that she needed to get Jose out of the picture because he was never gonna stop bothering her. With her back against the wall, Daisy decides to plead guilty for her role in the crime to avoid trial. She was allowed to plead guilty to dismembering a human body

as opposed to the count of first-degree murder. But in exchange for that, please, she was going to have to testify against Milton, if Milton went to trial. You have to make deals with some people. If you're going to have them to testify against Milton and make the case stronger against the person, then they actually committed the murder.

In exchange for her cooperation, Daisy is sentenced to 16 years. I felt more calm in my family because I had to go through what I had done. After Milton receives word that his ex is set to testify against him, he too pleads guilty. Milton said that he essentially wanted to prove today's he was going to take care of her and protect her and take care of anyone that gets in their way

and to show his love for her. He pled guilty to first-degree murder and received 30 years in the own Department of Corrections. I said, well, why not? Because I did it all year long, because in these cases, not only do they harm the victim, but also the whole family. Unlike his daughter, Daisy's father Salvador

takes his chances at trial. Daisy's father's motive appeared to be, you know, I have to do whatever I need, I need to do to protect my daughter and to get rid of this evidence and to get rid of this guy, who, according to Daisy, has been harassing her for a while. He claims that he was threatened

and that he only did this because he was in fear for his own life. He had an opportunity multiple times to leave that house and go and say, this guy killed somebody in my house and made me help bury the body. And he never did. He was, in fact, held responsible.

He was found guilty of dismembering him a body. And he was sentenced to, I believe, 20 years in the Olden Department of Corrections. If anything, her dad should have got the 16. I mean, I understand he isn't a accomplice, but I don't think that this was his plan. As the case comes to a close, one tragic detail remains unsolved. Who sent the Muerte text to Jorge on the day Jose was killed?

And why? We don't know for sure whether it was another slap in a face by Daisy and Milton to Jose's brother, or if it was Jose trying to say what just happened to him. I am still under the belief that he did that before he passed away. I never learned anything different. Though Daisy, Salvador, and Milton were convicted and given prison time, those close to the case believe Daisy in particular dodged justice. As much as we do, I think that the sentence was very, it was very little for us.

I think that she should have gotten the same sentence that Milton got personally. She's responsible for this poor gentleman's death. As for Daisy's third child, Jose's nephew, he now resides with his father Jorge, but the reunion isn't a sea of grief over the loss of Jose. como ese tío cariñoso, como ese muchacho dedicado a la familia a ayudar a los suyos a salir adelante. Así quiero que lo recordemos,

como ese muchacho que trabajaba para ayudar a los suyos. Dejo algo bonito porque no tenía problemas, le hablaba todo mundo, todos los planes que teníamos entre familia y nos cumplieron porque falta uno. They spoke to everyone, all the plans we had between our family and we fulfilled them because we needed one. After serving eight years, Salvador Gutierrez was released on parole in February of 2021. In June of 2021, Daisy Gutierrez was also released on parole after serving only eight years. Milton Miranda continues to service 30-year sentence at the Lawrence Correctional Center in Illinois. He has projected to be released in 2046 at the age of 55.

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