Snapped: Women Who Murder - Jamie Grachek

Episode Date: July 18, 2021

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She was really sweet and she made my dad really happy. They had a lot of fun times together. She was a very independent woman. I really, truly believe that they had something great. Until a peaceful Easter Sunday turns into a horrific nightmare. And I'm one with the address of your emergency. One more time. Yes, yes. Oh my god. Oh my god.

That's when he says, there they go. There they go. What first appears to be a random crime reveals itself to be anything but... It seemed to have a purpose to us. Who might have had a reason to want to do that to them? The search for the truth will unravel a deadly web of deception and betrayal.

She just wasn't the woman that he thought that she was. truth will unravel a deadly web of deception and betrayal. She just wasn't the woman that he thought that she was. We knew from the beginning that this was bullf**king. This is personal. You shot me. That's what? It was all piecing together what the real motive for this prime was.

Someone was murdered. Please help me, that's not true. She got herself into a situation where she couldn't get herself out. I never thought million years that it would ever come to something like this. March 31, 2013. It's 10.30 p.m. on Easter Sunday in the small town of Riverside, Ohio. When the local police department receives an alarming 9-1-1 call.

9-1-1 with the address of your emergency. What's going on? What's going on? I think I got gunshots fired. I think I got gunshots fired. I think I got gunshots fired. I think I got gunshots fired. I think I got gunshots fired. 911 with the address of your emergency. What's going on? What's going on? I think I got gunshots fired. I think I just heard three shots. After the cryptic 911 call, Riverside Police Officers rushed to the scene where they find a woman crying over

the body of a man lying motionless in the front yard. When they arrived, he was awake. He was on the ground. There was a towel that was being applied to his side. We can see it was a gunshot wound. He was shot twice. He was shot in a chest and shot in the thigh. The woman identifies herself as 40-year-old Nicole Price.

The man on the ground is her 45-year-old boyfriend, John Grochak. I'm thinking, you know, he's been shot. He's just going to make it. He's going to be OK. And I kept telling him to hold on. They're coming. Hold on. You're hoping for the best, but it didn't look good.

He was in serious trauma. best, but it didn't look good. He was in the serious trauma. Born in 1967, John Grotchek grew up in the Lake Erie suburb of Fremont, Ohio, the youngest child in a large family. We had five sisters and a brother. They all grew up in the home together. My dad was very close with his sisters and his brother. They spent a lot of time together.

As John became a teenager, he developed a love for the outdoors. He taught himself out of fish and do all kinds of stuff. He was close with his mom and dad, but he wanted to be outside. He had a really big booming laugh. It was a very funny and loud outgoing individual. And he had a big heart, and he was always making people laugh.

In 1990, at 23 years old, John started his own plumbing company. He was truly a god when he came to plumbing. I've never seen a plumber's fastest in him. I learned a lot from John. John eventually met and married a woman named Sylvia Schofler, and the couple soon started a family. My mom and my dad had three children together. My sister Chelsea, me, and my brother Jonathan.

Their marriage was always great. They were a team and they were kind of like best friends and I really loved that about them. My mom managed my dad's plumbing business and things like that and stayed at home. He went back and forth from different contracting jobs. But John and Sylvia's marriage didn't last. My mom and my dad were married for 13 years,

and they split up when I was seven. But they always remained really close friends. John wasn't single for long. In 2004, he met and fell in love with a 23-year-old woman named Jamie Ballwig. I remember when I first met John, and he seemed like he was a really nice fellow. They got along really well and Jamie, she seemed to be happy.

Jamie had three kids. He had a real good relationship with them. You love them kids to death. June had multiple fathers for her children and when my dad came into her life, he completely rescued her. for her children and when my dad came into her life, he completely rescued her. Like John, Jamie had been raised in a big family. In our family, there are two boys, two girls.

I'm the oldest. She's five years younger than me. We lived in the burps. Jamie was a bit more headstrong than her siblings. Jamie, she had a mind of her own, and she always did what she thought she wanted to do, no matter what I said. I mean, she was more, I don't know if you want to call it, rebellious.

My sister dropped out of school in eighth grade. She just stopped going to school, and she just never went back. She decided she was going to go off and she just never went back. She decided she was gonna go off and do things on her own. It was Jamie's bold and fun-loving spirit that captured John Grotchek's attention when the couple met in 2004.

She was in her 20s, and he was in his late 30s. She met up with John and fell in her 20s, and he was in his late 30s. She met up with John and fell in love with him. And she came to us and she said, I'm gonna marry this man. They went out, got married, and that was it. There was no talking, no planning. It was just all instinct.

They just jumped into it. The couple had two children, a son and a daughter. And for the next five years, everything seemed perfect. They seemed great for each other, and she was a little younger than my dad, so I feel like she brought out that fun-loving side of my dad. But John and Jamie's marriage began to fracture in 2011.

I think he came to a point in his life to where he wanted to make something for himself. You know, she didn't work, so it was kind of like he was the only person that was bringing the income into the house. So that put a lot of stress on him, and she was too young and not settled down. And John had a different mindset than what she did. a lot of stress on him. And she was too young and not settled down. And John had a different mindset than what she did. John and Jamie separated in 2011. And John filed for divorce the following spring. Then in the summer of 2012,

John met a 39-year-old named Nicole Price. He went out drinking one night, and he winked at Nikki and went on from there. We see each other every single day after that. So then we moved in together in Riverside in 2012, the day before Thanksgiving. Nicole was a sweetheart. She had her own place. She worked a good job. I mean, she took care of herself.

She was a very independent woman. That was a big thing in John's eyes because that's what he wanted was helping the relationship. He didn't want to be the only provider. Those who knew John best say his time with Nicole was the happiest of his life. He was just glowing and seemed like so content when he met Nicole. It was just like a new light to his life. Sadly, tragedy strikes just four months later in March of 2013.

John has been shot twice by an unknown assailant. Emergency personnel are working very quickly to try to get the victim into the ambulance. He was removed by Armedics to a Level 1 trauma center. As they arrive on the scene, police investigators are just as baffled by the inexplicable crime. You're running through and you're going,

okay, is this a random crime? Who would do something like this to John? You're running a gambit of what this could be. You could even get into a situation where it's people that aren't even adversaries to each other. They're out of the house, and they're drinking. Things get out of hands, they have an argument, and somebody ends up getting shot. So you're building it basically from the ground up.

Coming up, Riverside police uncovered telling clues inside the crime scene. We're able to see inside the house that there was clearly a struggle. I had to start here and scuffle, and then I start here in the gunshots. And the search for a motive uncovers a larger mystery.

Something's very wrong here. This was not a home invasion. There's a lot of trying to figure out what happened. In Riverside, Ohio, 45-year-old John Grotchak is fighting for his life. After being shot twice at his home, he's been in a fight for the most important and most important in his life. In Riverside, Ohio, 45-year-old John Grotchak is fighting for his life after being shot twice at his home in a sudden and violent attack. As John is rushed to the nearest hospital, Riverside detectives try to make sense of the

crime scene. Our evidence technicians were putting back the physical mechanics of what happened. We were able to see inside the house that there was clearly a struggle because things removed out of place and disheveled and items were kind of strewn. We found bullet holes in the wall through the closet door, dry wall dust, blood spatter. We did recover to bullets basically. One that was fairly intact and one that was kind of in two pieces, they were small caliber.

They were not able to recover any shell casings. That can mean two things. It can mean that the shooter recovered the shell casings and took them with them. That was not likely in this scenario because of how quickly everything had evolved. So pretty quickly investigators were able to determine that this possibly involved a revolver, which does not eject the shell casings they stay in the cylinder. To try and determine exactly what happened, detectives speak with John's girlfriend, Nicole Price.

We needed to find some things out immediately. We wanted to try to get all the information we could at the time from the living girlfriend. His girlfriend, Nicole, was very upset, very shook up. Nicole tells the detectives that her and John's evening had started out like any other. We spent Easter together. We went to the store.

When we came back home, my oldest son was there. He left behind, said he'd probably come back. John was relaxing on the couch, and I was in the kitchen. John got up to use the restroom, and that's when I heard a knock at the door. I'm thinking as my son. But instead of being her son, Nicole says the person at the door was a man she didn't recognize.

And he was pointing a gun right at her. He was like inside, and I just turned around and screamed and ran towards the family room. At the time I and ran towards the family room. At the time I'm running towards the family room, John's coming out of the bathroom. So I see him walking towards the man. John starts coming down the hallway. John's a fairly big guy.

He's coming down the hallway to intercede into two protect Nicole. Basically, the struggle in Susan's side, the front area of the house. I just thought 911 and laid a phone down because I didn't know what was happening. And then the man was telling John to get on the floor, get on the floor, and then I had to start here

and scuffle like they're wrestling. And I'm freaking out. And then I start hearing the gunshots. I'm freaking out, and then I start hearing the gunshots. Nicole says the shooter and a second man then fled from the house. John tried to chase after them, but he collapsed in the front yard. It was only then that she realized he'd been shot.

I ran over to John, and then he's like, holding his side, and then I'm yelling, help, help. As she screamed for her neighbor's help, Nicole says she could see the shooter and the second man running down the street away from her home. The first guy that I've seen was the dark-headed one.

I didn't know there was a second guy until after they were running from my house. She described them as one was taller than the other. The taller of the two white males had the handgun. The white male with the handgun had, she described as a buzz, haircut, and some facial hair. She didn't get a good look at the shorter of the two individuals.

She basically puts the taller slender one as the one coming through the door first, and being the aggressive person forcing her way into the home. There was no information on scene that these were individuals that were known to John or to Nicole. It appeared to be potentially a robbery at this point, or some sort of poem invasion.

But that theory seems less likely when Nicole reveals that the two men didn't try to take anything, or even say a word before the shooting began. I don't know why they were there. I didn't know if they wanted money, or to kill us. I mean, I didn't know. There were there. I didn't know if they wanted money or to kill us. I mean, I don't know. There were no demands made for any property, any items, any money, any drugs. There were no demands made. We had had no prior issues of home invasions, of shots being fired. We had no calls of that nature in that area.

Something's very wrong here. This was not a home invasion. This seemed to have a purpose to us. Anytime you have something like this happen, the police come in and they're immediately looking for a motive because that's going to lead them to who might have done this, if the victim had any sort of enemies.

While detectives try to discern a motive, there is one thing of which they're certain. Nicole had nothing to do with the crime. From listening to the 911 call, you would have to be a pretty good method actor to be able to pull something off like that, to be a person who's standing there, basically firing a weapon, committing first degree murder.

There was absolutely nothing that gave us any clue that she was being anything but straightforward with us. Investigators are confident Nicole is not a suspect, but who would want to hurt John? John did not have any enemies that I know of, and I know them for a very long time. I hung out with them all the time, and we'd never had problems with anybody, ever.

The first steps would have involved getting any idea if this was a targeted planned attack on their home, who might have been involved and who might have had a reason to want to do that to them. Detective speak with neighbors to see if anyone saw in which direction the suspects had fled. As it turns out, several had. In neighborhoods like this, a lot of times neighbors know each other, and it was only 10-30 in the evening.

A lot of people are still awake, and it's very unusual to hear gunshots, especially at that time of night. So a lot of people came out to see what was going on. Some of them even witnessed part of the struggle and witnessed suspects running away. gunshots, especially at that time of night. So a lot of people came out to see what was going on. Some of them even witnessed part of the struggle and witnessed suspects running away. The descriptions from the neighbors were that the two men had fled to a vehicle, had gotten in the passenger side of the vehicle,

a dark colored vehicle, and that the vehicle then immediately took off, indicating that there had been a driver sitting in the vehicle, waiting for these two men, telling investigators there was a third person involved. Coming up, with little to go on, police tried to find the shooter and his accomplices before they can vanish.

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podcasts. After 45-year-old John Grachek was shot twice in his Riverside, Ohio home, police are on the lookout for three possible suspects. It appears the vag guys have fled and they have a description of a car, in which way they were going. Not knowing immediately what motivated this crime, if it was random, if it was individuals looking to break into homes and commit violent acts and not knowing who it was, there was an immediate need to track, identify, and apprehend these suspects.

Detectives put out a bolo with the description of the suspect's car. The description that the officers received leaving the area was initially just a larger, noisy, full-sized, dark, potentially dark blue car. Minutes later, a patrol officer in the area spots a similar vehicle. Our officers are on rope patrol and encounters a car leaving the area at a high rate of speed and also basically rolls a stop sign in front of them. So he follows the vehicle for about a half a mile and conducts a traffic stop on it. We don't know if this vehicle is involved or not. It's leaving the area so it's a good assumption. Maybe it's involved.

Inside the car is a female driver and two male passengers. They start ordering people out of the vehicle. Drivers away female. She follows orders. They're able to walk her out of the car, walk her back. Get her down the ground. Very nervous. Very upset.

She immediately was asking what's the soul about, what's going on. There are two white males in the vehicle. One is taller than the other, one has facial hair, and the one with the facial hair has a buzz haircut. They match a description of the two males that fled from the scene. In multiple people's saw, both suspects. That's one of the decisions made to bring them back

to the scene to conduct a live ID. We have those individuals separated in three police cruisers. We bring them back to the scene. Back at the Grotjec residence, detectives ask Nicole if she recognizes any of the people in the cruisers. She walks down and we use our lighting and flashlights where they can't see her, but she can clearly see their faces. The first male suspect is identified by his driver's license as 29-year-old Gary Webb. Gary Webb is in dark clothing, white male, slender.

And they open up the door, and then I knew it was him. And I said, yes, it's him. He says, that the man had the gun. She said, yes, it was. I said, is that the man at Shot John? She said, yes, it is. The second male suspect is identified as 24-year-old Jacob Gibson.

Nicole IDs him as the shooter's accomplice that she'd seen running away from her home. Jacob turns out to be a shorter statue, stout her white male dressing all dark clothing. To detective surprise, Nicole also recognizes the female who'd been driving the getaway car, not from the shooting earlier that evening, but from her boyfriend, John Grachek's personal life. When she looked in the back seat of that police bruiser, she said, that's Jamie Ballcheck, this ex-wife. I see Jamie's in there.

As she was even there, but I just felt like she had something to do with it. But what was John's ex-wife doing with the two men who'd presumably tried to kill him? To find out, investigators hauled Jamie and the two male suspects back to the police station for questioning. At the same time, Nicole Price heads to the hospital, desperate to know John's condition. I was really worried about John. The detective told me I could finally go to the hospital and see him.

But when Nicole arrives at the emergency room, she's met with devastating news. The doctor came in and said he worked on him for a long time, he couldn't save him. He was terrible. and said he worked on him for a long time. He didn't save him. He was terrible. So we're staying alive. John was struck twice, once in a leg, once in the chest.

The bull had entered the wood be his left side of his body and traveled across as long and struck his heart and pierced his heart on both sides. So that's just not a wound that you can survive. I was at my cousin's house when we were having a sleepover, and I got a call from Nicole. It was like close to midnight, and she was hysterical. And I was like, what's going on?

She could barely talk, and she was like, your dad's been shot. We ran upstairs to tell my aunt and uncle, and we finally got a hold of Miami Valley Hospital, and that's when they told us that he had passed away. I did not think that it was possible that this could happen. I was very shocked and very sad that somebody took my life for my best friend, and me knowing that I'll never get to talk to him, never hang out with him again, they're really hurt me. At the Riverside Police Department, investigators separate their three suspects.

Jamie Grauchack, Gary Webb, and Jacob Gibson. John has passed. This is a murder investigation. It's now a homicide. The first person we spoke with was Gary Webb. He's been arrested before he understood his rights. He had some crimes of violence, aggravated burglary. I believe he was a parole currently for aggravated burglary. All we're here to do is ask you some questions

and ask you a proper of us and tell us the truth. OK? Yeah, I don't know any of these troubles, sir. I ain't gonna know anybody, you know. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I shouldn't have been there. Mr. Webb comes up with three or four different versions of what happened, but he doesn't deny that he was there.

The crime we're investigating is murder. Holy s***, okay? That gentleman that was shot tonight didn't make it. Holy s***, okay. That's terrible. Well, I do this to be straight up with you. Okay, that's terrible, sir. That's terrible.

I'm really, really wish I was not there. Despite Nicole Price's statement, Gary denies being the shooter. He also claims that he just met Jamie Grochak earlier that night. So that's the first time you met her. Yes, sir. Did her and Jay were boyfriend and girlfriend?

You said I felt it, but... He basically tells us that he only knows Jamie through Jacob Gibson. And that's pretty much what he states the whole time is that I'm only here because I know Gibson. Gary also reveals what he claims is the real reason that Trio had visited the Grotchx home that evening. But it's not what detectives expect.

They were there to buy drugs. Mr. Grotchx residents. Who knocked on the door? Jake. I didn't know that people. I've never met people in the name of my life. He basically stated that they were there to buy heroin. They go south, they go to bed, and they're in a fight and a struggle between Jacob Gibson and John Grog check.

And the next thing I know they're in there fighting over a gun. I don't know if Jake has a and they're fighting over a gun, I don't know if Jake has a gun, or if he had a gun, would the gun shot start going home? And he starts to run. Seconds later, Jacob Gibson's behind him, and they run from the area and flee. Gary Webb claims he has no idea where the gun came from

or where it is now. But after a quick background check, detectives find his story suspicious. We're able to ascertain pretty quickly that the house we're at, Mr. Grotchek's residence. There's no history there, it means it's sort of drug complaints. He has no drug history in his background. Police call him on it. They say they know that's not true because they know that John is not a drug dealer. You put yourself there, you saw it went down, all of them has divorced the truth. I'm telling you the truth, sir, you weren't there to buy heroin.

That's crap, okay? Everything you're saying so far is a lie. I didn't know he was going shoot the guy. I swear I didn't want this to happen. I didn't know anything want this to happen. I didn't know anything, so I just was going to happen. Coming up, investigators question Jacob Gibson and Jamie Grochak, who both give a very different version of events.

Hey, everyone's going to rock the very high of time. But who was the true ringleader behind the crime? And what was their motive? We've got Webb, who points to finger Gibson. Gibson points to finger Webb. Can we do you think you can help us piece together tonight what happened? I'll tell you exactly what happened. After John Grotchek was gunned down in his riverside home, police have arrested his ex-wife,

Jamie Grotchek, and her companions, Gary Webb and Jacob Gibson. After the trio were caught fleeing the scene together. We bring back all three suspects to the police department and begin the process of interviewing them. And they're all absolutely what we want to talk to us. Investigators have already questioned Gary Webb, who claims that the three suspects were at John's house to buy drugs. He's adamant that from the whole time he didn't have the gun,

he didn't shoot the gun, that he didn't kill Mr. Grachack. Who produced the gun? I don't know, sir. It has all the convenience. I was there, I didn't have the gun, it wasn't me, I didn't come to the door, I didn't get notified. When detectives press him further, Gary changes his tune. So the truth is that Jake did have a gun. Yes, sir.

And that Jake was the one that went to the door and knocked on the door. Yes, sir. He said Gibson's the one that shot the gun. And it Gibson's the one that went in the house. But when investigators question Jacob Gibson, he gives a very different story. And then where it's looked at, it means for him, because bad things happen tonight. No, I'm just saying what he looked at me for. a very different story. The Erie puts you and this guy first story told us that you two were fighting over gun.

The second story he puts is that you shot him. That's a lot. I was shot in a way. As we're talking to Mr. Gibson, he's basically claiming that Gary Webster and brought the firearm over. He's the one who went to the door first. And Gary had a gun.

I'm not going to door the lady. He's going to door it. OK, then out a gun. I'm not pulling the door of the lady, I'm using the door. OK, then we got in a scuffle. OK, took the gun inside the door. Police asked Jacob what happened to the murder weapon. I don't know where the gun's at. I think somebody's got in that part. I don't know.

Police believe that Jacob Gibson is being fairly truthful about what happened that night. His version of events is matching up with what we've learned at the scene from Nicole Price. Nicole was able to see pretty clearly who was there when she answered the door and which of the men had the gun. And she was able to identify that man, and that was Gary Love. But while it's clear to investigators who pulled the trigger, the motive behind the shooting remains a mystery.

Just before daybreak, detectives turned to Jamie Grochak, the only suspect with a clear connection to the victim. When Jamie Grochak is interviewed, she's wanted to be cooperative. She's saying, I'm not real sure why I'm here. Detectives informed Jamie that she's being questioned in a murder investigation.

Someone was murdered. That's correct. Someone was murdered. Detectives tell Jamie that her ex-husband has been killed. Hello, they're dead, and please stop me. They're not dead. His husband has been killed. Hello, baby. Please stop me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Please don't be that bad for you. I'm fortunate. I can't say I can't tell you that. No, my God. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Her reaction is pretty dramatic. She's crying and she's, you know, screaming,

really upset to hear the news that he's died. The one thing that I noticed that was really interesting in her interview, and you always watch people's body language very closely and what they're doing. She was wailing to the point that it seemed forced, and I noticed that there were no tears. And I remember even turning to Sergeant Trago and I'm like, she's not crying.

She's crying without crying, no tears. When people have genuine reaction to a traumatic event like that, it's genuine. There's tears. But Jamie's demeanor suddenly changes when police confront her with Jacob's confession. Jamie, do you think you can help us piece together tonight? What happened? I'll tell you exactly what happened.

Jamie confirms detective suspicions when she denies that the group had gone to John's house to buy drugs. Instead, she says the trio had robbery on their minds when they knocked on her ex-husband's door. She told detectives that nobody had gone there with the intention of harming or killing anyone, and that the only planned motivation was to rob John for money that they believed he might have. Jamie tells police that she and her boyfriend,

Jacob Gibson, were desperate for money. So they asked Jacob's friend Gary to help them rob someone. The original plan was to do a robbery of drug dealer in the city of Dayton. But Jamie tells police that when the trio found the drug dealer they were looking for, they realized he didn't have any money on him. And that didn't work out well.

They didn't get anything from this drug dealer. So they're now all sitting down in the East Side of Dayton in her car saying, what do we do now? Well, then, Jake's like, you got, you got any ideas? And I was like, well, my ex husband, I was I was like, well, no, he's a big guy. He's going to fight you. To investigate her surprise, Jamie admits that she offered up

her ex-husband, John Grachack, as a mark. She basically is the one that says, I know where we could go. My ex, I can take you there. I know that he has cash on hand and that he self-employed and we can probably get money there. Have you known him to have money? How much money do you think? People have.

A couple thousand. Have you known but carry that before? So they decide at that time after Jamie supplies them with who and what, that they're going to go commit a robbery at Jonk's house. But Jamie insists the plan was only to rob her ex-husband, not to kill him. Do you see him with a firearm? No, I didn't see any gun once, so ever. Never saw anybody. No, he had that knife, and I put it next to my seat. I was like, no, we're not doing anything by night. She had claimed to not have any idea that they were going to hurt John.

They were just going to go in and steal the money and leave. If someone's going to commit a crime like that, they're not going to take any guns, that made no sense to us whatsoever. Do you think this has Jacob ever met him? No. No. Do you know who he ever has? No, neither of them.

So would they have known the house, we'll pick it out? No, I showed him. You showed him what it was. Webbing Gibson never had contact with him. We'll pick it out. No, I showed them one more. You showed them one more? Webbing Gibson never had contact with him. Didn't even know that the residents existed and didn't know how to get there.

The only reason they ended up there that night with him was because of Jamie Prochex' information. If this would have worked successfully, what were you guys going to do with the money? Were you guys not split in? Were you guys not split in? How were you guys gonna do with the money? We guys are splitting. We were gonna split it. How were you guys gonna split it? I don't know.

I guess they were gonna split it 50-50 and then Jake was gonna give me his hand from whatever he could give. Okay. And I didn't do it to hurt anybody. I'm a struggling. Right. Basically, she's the one who lays the framework for, he's got the money, he's my ex, so it's good information. Here's how to get there, and I'll drive you there.

And then, parks down the street out of sight. She thought out of sight from all witnesses, but it wasn't. And then, parks and stays in the car. So, she basically pies herself into being a mastermind of a plan of committing a robbery. And during the robbery, John was shot and now it turns into commission of a felony and everybody's involved and now you're wrapped up into a homicide investigation. I want to go in the check.

Oh yeah, you're going to jail in that. We can't avoid that. On April 1, 2013, Jamie Grotchak, Jacob Gibson, and Gary Webb are all arrested and charged with murder, aggravated burglary, aggravated robbery, and felonious assault. The community was pleased we made arrests very quickly. I think some were shocked when they heard that it was the ex-wife. It was just really hard to find out that Jamie was involved in my dad's murder. She was my stepmom, and for her to do that, was just really heartbreaking and unforgettable.

I never thought million years that it would ever come to something like this. Coming up, new evidence suggests there's much more to John Grotchek's murder than a robbery gone wrong. I think it came all at once, and just pushed her over the edge. Now it was all piecing together what the real motive for this crime was. with 24 hours of John Grotchek's murder, his estranged wife, Jamie Grotchek, Gary Webb, and Jacob Gibson have been arrested for the crime.

Jamie insists that the shooting was the unfortunate result of a robbery attempt gone bad, but police believe there might be more to the crime. We knew from the beginning that this was bullf**king. This is personal. Detective Circle back to John Grotchek's girlfriend, Nicole Price, to find out more about John and Jamie's relationship. In secondary interviews with Nicole Price,

we're finding out, too, that there were some other underlying incidents that happened. Police learned that John and Jamie had officially separated seven months before the shooting. So, toward the end of my dad and Jamie's relationship, things started to get crazy, and she just wasn't the woman that he thought that she was. Jamie was using drugs, and my dad decided to leave.

But even though John had filed for divorce in 2012, there was a period of time afterwards when he and Jamie hadn't completely cut ties. John and her still dated off and on through the whole time of the separation of the until the point he met Nikki With Nicole in his life, John had decided it was finally time to cut Jamie off completely She was jealous. He was moving on with his life and that it was without her She lost her support system. She lost everything when John left her.

Jamie was spiraling and spiraling out of control to where she was involved in drugs. I don't know if there was any way for Jamie to be back on her feet. She became more self-destructive. Nicole says it wasn't long after she and John started dating that Jamie started to harass them. Well, he got his phone number changed, and then she started messaging him on Facebook.

Blocked her from that one, and then she made up fake ones. Tried to contact him through there. There was an incident in January of that same year where she had taken a vehicle and drove it through the front yard of their home, cutting up the grass in front of their home as a threat. It was like three o'clock in the morning

when he heard a real-life car, because it was a cul-de-sac. John seen her when you opened the door. We did call the police, and they came. She was basically just putting herself where she didn't belong, but I don't think there was anything that was ever charged that came out of it. Another protection of orders, I think, that were issued. Jamie had continued to engage in verbal altercations

with both of them whenever the opportunity came. Jamie's drug abuse and out-of-control behavior had eventually led to her losing custody of both her and John's children. The children were temporarily placed in foster care, while John waited for the courts to award him full custody. John was going to visit his kids weekly, and then eventually I started going to to get to know the children. He was working his case plan from the children's services workers. He was doing everything he needed to do to work his case plan

and get reunified with the kids. And Jamie just wasn't doing anything. I think the court was agreeing with John that he was going to be the better choice to be the full-time parent. They had had hearings in the past where Jamie had made threats that if John gets these kids, I'll kill him. I'll kill him before he gets these kids. John was not afraid of Jamie. John was hoping that she would just move on with her life. The final custody hearing was scheduled for April 8th, just eight days after John's murder.

The children were going to move in April 9th. It had been decided he was getting them a week before it happened. I think it came all at once for Jamie. It was too much losing John and you know the thought of losing children I think just pushed her over the edge. I think the motive in this crime was pure vengeance and revenge. It seems like John was targeted and revenge. It seems like John was targeted from the get-go. But while the theory seems likely, the evidence is circumstantial at best. That is, until Jamie's boyfriend and co-conspirator,

Jacob Gibson decides to make a deal with prosecutors. Jacob Gibson approached us and indicated that he was willing to testify, and he would be willing to testify against Jamie Grachack with prosecutors. Jacob Gibson approached us and indicated that he was willing to testify, and he would be willing to testify against Jamie Grotchack in a prosecution of her. When Jamie learns of Jacob's plan to testify against her, she also accepts a plea deal.

As does Gary Webb. On April 9, 2014, Gary Webb pleads guilty to murder and robbery. Gary Webb received 18 years to life as his sense for this crime. In November 2014, Jamie Grochek pleads guilty to involuntary manslaughter, complicity to commit aggravated robbery, and aggravated burglary. Jamie received 21 years in prison for her involvement in this crime. Jacob Gibson received a 15 years to life sentence for his part in this crime.

It's still difficult for the families of both John and Jamie Grotchak to make sense of this horrible tragedy. I was really angry and when I found out that Jamie was responsible for my dad's murder, it was such an almost unforgiving terrible feeling, like, I don't think I'll ever be able to forgive her for what she did. I was just stunned. Like somebody hit me right in the face or something. It's really a shame that she got herself into a situation where she couldn't get herself out. She was the worst person making decisions.

She also had no impulse control. So I think that she saw an opportunity to get a little cash. It was a tragedy. She didn't think about her kids when she sent them guys to the house to take money from their father. But instead of taking money, they took his life. Jamie Graschick, while we were released in 2035 at the age of 53, John and Jamie's children are being raised by members of the Gratjuk family.

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