Snapped: Women Who Murder - Rose Kuehni

Episode Date: November 28, 2021

As investigators dig deeper into a man's disappearance, they realise his recent online presence may be a charade conducted by a jealous killer.Season 24, Episode 13Originally aired: December ...13, 2020Watch full episodes of Snapped for FREE on the Oxygen app: https://oxygentv.app.link/WsLCJWqmIebSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Lindsay Graham, the host of Wonder East Podcast American Scandal. Our newest series looks at the story of OxyContin, a popular painkiller that helps spur an epidemic of addiction and drug abuse, in which prompted a broad campaign to hold the pharmaceutical industry accountable. Listen to American Scandal on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. He was a reformed ladies man, looking to settle down with a new love. Doug changed over the years being on the road. He got lonely on the road, I believe.
Starting point is 00:00:32 She got along with everybody. There. Well, I thought, well, this could be it. But when this loving brother fails to appear for a holiday celebration, concern mouse. She would draw back looking for him and he wasn't there. It was his Facebook page, so you just...why would he say that? We were concerned with him going out there and shooting himself or hanging himself. Detectives soon uncover a myriad of lies and deception
Starting point is 00:01:01 that leaves everyone kneeling. He was leaving her for another woman. Their text messages very plainly illustrated the fact that this was planned. He said he would take the boxes and put them somewhere on a way of finding them. You don't take a human body and throw it away like a piece of garbage to never be found.
Starting point is 00:01:25 That man looked at me and started coming at me and he said, oh, my God. We just could not believe something like that happened. How cruel can a person be? The New York Times The New York Times November 26, 2015 In Pican, Illinois, the Bailey family is gathering for a Thanksgiving feast. But by late afternoon, the holiday celebration
Starting point is 00:02:05 takes a worrisome tone when 51-year-old Doug Bailey fails to arrive. We're all texting, go on, hey, Doug, where are you at? And then he said, I'll be there in a little while. But as the hours tick by, there is still no sign of Doug, or his live-in girlfriend, 45-year-old Rose Kunai. He said he was at the world's largest truck stop around 12-something, I think it was.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And it only takes two hours to get from the truck stop to, you know, our house in Illinois. And then, three clock rolls around, still no Doug. Six clock rolls around, still low dug. Six clock rolls around, no dug. With Doug's family unable to reach him, they attempt to contact Rose. I called Rose, and that's what she told me that Doug and her got into an argument,
Starting point is 00:03:02 and Doug got all the pickup truck and it's her walking. She said you got all the truck and she drove off and then she felt guilty and came back and Doug was gone. When Rose says she hasn't heard from Doug either and unsettling feeling begins to take hold. We're waiting for a phone call from Doug,
Starting point is 00:03:26 and we're getting nothing. And then I knew by that night something was wrong. And then I knew by that night something was wrong. And then I knew by that night something was wrong. Born on July 1, 1964, Douglas Bailey was the 11th child for Jim and Bonnie Bailey. He was just loved by everybody. He was a character even when he was in diapers. Doug was always the life of them, the house.
Starting point is 00:03:53 He was just a smiley, funny little boy. At age 15, Doug decided to put his education aside and join the workforce. 15, Doug decided to put his education aside and join the workforce. He wasn't crazy about school, so he wanted to drop out, you know, to work for dad. My dad had his big psalm on that and Doug's job at night was going down and cleaning up the psalm and after all the employees went home.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Times were good for the Baleys, but in 1981, tragedy struck when Doug's 19-year-old brother Larry was shot and killed during a fight. His brother went to the house where his girlfriend supposedly was. He was met at the door with somebody with a shotgun who shot him in cold blood was met at the door. It was somebody with a shotgun who shot him and cold blood right there on the door.
Starting point is 00:04:48 We went to the hospital, and Larry was gone. The tour family part. Larry's death hit everyone hard, especially younger brother Doug. They did everything together. And then when Larry got killed, Doug changed. He just didn't seem to care about life as much. While Doug struggled to cope with his brother's death,
Starting point is 00:05:27 he found strength in the arms of his first love, Tammy Pots. Doug and Tammy, they were such a cute couple. They did everything together. I thought those two should have married and looked at that. who should have married and loved her dad. And so she was like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Also making the move to Florida with the family was Doug's girlfriend Tammy. When she became pregnant, Doug was in heaven. He was walking on cloud nine. He loved that little guy so much. In 1991, Doug's dad moved the business to Iowa and Doug moved with it. Shortly after the move, Doug's relationship with Tammy ended,
Starting point is 00:06:26 but Doug never gave up on finding love. And then he met Shannon. Her and Doug had a really good relationship. They seemed to get along great. I thought he finally settled down. He found somebody to live out his life with. In June of 1993, Doug and Shannon married, and within a few years, the couple welcomed two children
Starting point is 00:06:50 of their own. To support his growing family, Doug took to the road driving a truck for a living. Doug decided to get into trucking when my dad decided to go out of business. Doug and trucking, that was a good mix. And plus, it's something, you know, Doug was a small, statured guy.
Starting point is 00:07:10 He loved his big truck. But life on the road proved hard on Doug's relationship with Shannon. In 2004, the couple divorced after 11 years of marriage. He was cheating on her. He would be gone two and three days at a time, and she finally just couldn't take no more. Doug stayed in Fort Madison, Iowa to be close to his kids,
Starting point is 00:07:36 but much of his time was spent on the road. Doug changed over the years of being on the road. He got lonely on the road, I believe. In 2009, a new face in his own neighborhood caught Doug's eye. 38-year-old Rose Kunai. She was visiting with her grandparents, and that's how they both met. She was out there for a force of July and Doug lived next door to her grandmother and he would help her grandmother doing different things around the yard or she needed something heavy-moved.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Rose was appreciative of Doug's help and the two soon grew close. Rose started coming to Iowa a little more often to see Doug. She worked part-time for a construction company, and then she also was an adjunct professor at the University of Minnesota. Rose taught an introduction to construction class, and she was very well liked among her students. After dating for a year, all that remained was for Doug to introduce Rose to his sizable
Starting point is 00:08:48 family. On September 18, 2010, at a birthday party for Doug's father, the Bailey's got their first look at Doug's new love. I fell in love with her. I loved her smile. She was very nice. Rose got along with everybody. There.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Well, I thought, well, this could be it. Ten months later, Rose and Doug decided that instead of a wedding, they would pledge their love by holding a special commitment ceremony attended by family and friends. It was so much fun. Rose had a wedding dress that she had cut the bottom of it off, and just for the top of the dress, Doug came out in his vikings, helmet.
Starting point is 00:09:33 It was hilarious. With another chance at love, Doug decided to give up his life as a long haul trucker and settled into something closer to home. He had expressed that he didn't want to work the road anymore. That's when I mentioned to him that where I was working was hiring and was all local work and trucking, and that's what he did.
Starting point is 00:09:57 For Doug, the new job provided everything he hoped for, a chance to build on what was already a wonderful relationship with Rose. Doug was really happy with Rose. I thought, you know, these guys get along so well, they just like compliment each other. Doug being so funny, her being so serious, and they just kind of blend it together. But on Thanksgiving Day 2015, they're happily ever after romance appears to be in jeopardy when Doug goes missing after a purported roadside tiff with Rose. Rose said she didn't know where he was. Rose couldn't tell us anything at that point. None of it sounded right.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I kept texting Doug saying, where are you? And fine, just became desperate. Doug, contact somebody. Anybody. Sleves us know you're okay. Coming up, Doug's loved ones activate an all-out blitz to find him. Whip of flyers everywhere, breast-carious truck stops, gas stations, you name it. And a social media post steers the search
Starting point is 00:11:14 in an unexpected direction. It was a Facebook post that surprised us all. She had posted on Facebook a picture of her in Doug Kissing, and I said, oh my God, did you see this? [♪ Music playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background On Thanksgiving of 2015, the Bailey family's beloved 51-year-old brother Doug appears to be missing. According to his girlfriend Rose, he was last seen walking away from her truck after they had a heated argument. We believed that he walked away from the car and that she would draw back looking for him and he wasn't there. When the Bailey family reaches out to police, they are told they must wait 48 hours before filing a missing persons report.
Starting point is 00:12:14 But for this close-knit family, delaying the search for Doug is out of the question. We weren't going to let Doug stay missing. No, that ain't the way it works. Expression of those bailies. We put flyers everywhere, rest areas, truck stops, gas stations, you name it. We just flooded Facebook with it.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Doug's older sister Sheila soon receives an intriguing tip. Her social media post about Doug's older sister Sheila soon receives an intriguing tip. Her social media post about Doug being missing spread nationwide really quick. So a truck driver from Missouri had called her and said that he thought he had saw Doug walking down the interstate. He explained a jacket that Doug might have had, a black bag that Doug might have had. You say everybody's got something that looks like them, and sometimes those tips and those reports are going to be people that look similar, but turn it up to be not true.
Starting point is 00:13:23 We are at our wit's end. We have tried and done everything we can to try and find Doug, and we can't find him. By Monday morning, with four days passed and nowhere else to turn, Sheila contacts police again and demands a response. That very morning, I called him again. We cannot find my brother, Doug, and therefore, there became a case number. demands a response. That very morning, I called him again. We cannot find my brother, Doug. And therefore, there became a case number.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And Doug was reported missing. That same day, police meet with Sheila and begin collecting information about her missing brother. She immediately said, this is not like Doug not to show up. So that right there kind of first gave us a red flag that there might be more to the story. She also relays a key piece of information. Though Doug was in a committed relationship with his live-in girlfriend Rose Kunai, he'd recently been unfaithful when he began seeing 45-year-old Brenda Hughes.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Brenda Hughes was a friend of dogs that he had known in Illinois before and had rekindled the relationship with her over the past year. And on November 18th, just a week before Doug was reported missing, Doug's friends and family noticed something unexpected on social media. Brenda had posted on Facebook a picture of her and Doug kissing.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And I was at my sister Carol's house and I looked and I said, oh my god, Carol, did you see this? It was a Facebook post that surprised us all. Any time we saw Doug Rose was there. So the picture of Doug with this Brenda was just out of left field. There was like three photos of Brenda put up there. And Doug told her, he said, take him down.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Take him down now. He was concerned that Rose would see the picture and everything would blow up between Doug and Rose, and it did. I know Rose had already seen it, but so that I believe humiliated her to see Doug actually with Brenda Kissi. Sheila tells police that Doug was so enamored with Brenda. At one point, he texted family members
Starting point is 00:15:47 that he intended to bring Brenda with him for the Thanksgiving holiday. Sheila then tells us that the next day, she gets another text from Doug's phone saying that he'd change his mind he's bringing Rose. He said, I can't leave my Rose. She'll be coming with me. Rose will be coming with me.
Starting point is 00:16:04 We're like, as long as Doug was happy, you know, it's his life he could choose, however, He said, I can't leave my rose. She'll be coming with me. Rose will be coming with me. We're like, as long as Doug was happy, you know, it's his life he can choose, however, and whatever he wants. Learning of Doug's affair leads police to consider if Doug's love life played a role in his disappearance. There's obviously some issues with him and Rose, and now there's also a mistress.
Starting point is 00:16:26 So that is also raising our suspicions at. There might be mode of why Doug disappeared. We were not sure exactly what was going on if Doug did get out of the vehicle and run in the woods like Rose said. So we had to reach out to talk to her. Over the phone, Rose tells detectives the same story she gave to Doug's family.
Starting point is 00:16:46 That on their way from their home in Wisconsin to Doug's sister's house in Illinois, they got into an argument while driving down a rural road. Rose said that during the argument, she stopped Doug out and took off. She said that she just left and drove around for a few minutes and then came back because she was going to pick him up. But when she came back, she couldn't find him. So she waited around a little while and then eventually just left and went home. Rose explained that they got in a fight because he was leaving her for another woman which was Brenda.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Rose told us that Doug had cheated on her before, and that they'd worked it out, and that, you know, then she'd find out that he was doing it again. When we talked to Rose, we really wanted to try to get the location where Doug got out of the vehicle. We wanted to start our search from that area and then work our way out. She explained that it was an old logging road
Starting point is 00:17:45 and an old spot work. Him and his dad worked. After speaking with Rose, we can contact the cell phone carrier, give them their phone number, and they can give us the last, usually several location pins that when they use their cell phone, where that location was. Police learned that Doug's phone was last used in Benton
Starting point is 00:18:08 Dorth, Iowa at 12.44 p.m. on Thanksgiving Day. First phone ping was in a wooded area outside of wildlife parade park off of Route 8 and Peory County. The other phone ping was in Benton Dorth, Iowa. And then the other one was near the world's biggest truck stop on the interstate there in Iowa. Deputies contact Bettendorf, Iowa police, and have them check the area with no results. They did not find Doug.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I took that information along with the detective Wattkins and we matched it up to where the phone pings. So we theorized that he must have gotten out of the vehicle somewhere near like Route 8 and Taylor Road in Peary County. With the cell phone pings and the information provided by Rose, investigators hope to zero in on Doug's whereabouts. Did he get out of the car and just walk in the woods? Did he get out of the car and contact Brenda?
Starting point is 00:19:10 Or did something happen to Doug? Coming up, detective speak to the other woman. At that point, I knew that something was up. We just had to figure out what it was. But police soon learned a new detail that changes the course of the investigation. She had mentioned that he was suicidal. Why would Doug say these things?
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Starting point is 00:20:51 detectives reach out to Doug's newest love interest, Brenda Hughes. With the missing person and there's infidelity or a mistress involved, you're, of course, going to check to make sure that there's no foul play. When I called Brenda, she stayed that she had talked to Doug a couple days before Thanksgiving and received a text message from him saying, put beers on ice. I'm on my way down. But Brenda tells Detective Watkins that Doug never showed up, and she hasn't heard from him in days. When speaking to Brenda on the phone,
Starting point is 00:21:31 she did not see him nervous. She seemed worried. We're generally worried about Doug. To find out whether or not Brenda is telling the truth, police pull her phone records. We pinged her phone during that day, and it showed that she was still in the Princeton Illinois areas where she lived.
Starting point is 00:21:52 So at that time, we were very confident that Brenda had not came and picked up Doug. With Brenda ruled out and Doug still missing, police examined Doug's activity on social media. On his Facebook account, one particular post from Doug immediately raises red flags. There was some very strange messages. One, indicating that I'm going to get out of here,
Starting point is 00:22:21 I'm signing off, I'm going home. Don't have to worry about me anymore. Those types of phrases that certainly may be something that Doug was thinking about ending his life. The suicide theory gains further traction when one of Doug's sisters explains to police that Doug had made an earlier attempt to end his life.
Starting point is 00:22:44 She had mentioned that he was suicidal had made an earlier attempt to end his life. She had mentioned that he was suicidal about 10 years ago. He tried to attempt to commit suicide, but was stopped. Doug was going through a problem with Shannon, the ex-wife. He was a straw because Shannon was leaving him. And she was divorcing him. I think he turned a car on in the garage and like, exphyxiation. Shannon, I believe, stopped him.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And he did end up in a hospital for about a week. He was in there. Police now wonder if Doug's fight with Rose may have driven him over the edge again. I believe that it was just a matter may have driven him over the edge again. I believe that it was just a matter of us going out into the woods and finding Doug
Starting point is 00:23:32 and committed suicide. On December 2, using pings from his cell phone and information provided by Rose, police descend upon the location Doug was supposedly last scene. We're out there in suits and everything walking around him. It's hillside, large hardwood forest with bryers and sticker bushes and multi-fool road.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I mean, it's very, very difficult to walk through. The meticulous search spans three days. I think they had probably 30 people out there. There were a couple of cadaver dogs out there. Unfortunately, during the third day searching for dogs, still no results. Still haven't found a dog. Definitely, frustration was starting to set in with us.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I thought maybe we were just searching the wrong area, so I thought that we had to speak to Rose and try to pinpoint the exact location. I'm worried Doug got out of the truck. But when detectives reach Rose on the phone again and ask her to join them at the search location, they receive a surprising response. She just made excuse.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I didn't want to come down. I said, what do you mean you're too busy? He's missing. Do you want to help us find him? She said, well, I can't get off of work. I can't afford to come down there. Rose gave the excuse that she didn't have money for gas. That's when the red flag is really starting to coming out with rows. I asked her to go on
Starting point is 00:25:07 Google Earth, try to pinpoint location where Doug gets out of the vehicle, and then she comes up with a location that's five miles away from where she originally told us that Doug had got out of the vehicle. At that point is when I knew that something was up with rows and we just had to figure out what it was. With suspicion around Rose growing, detectives decide to take a more direct approach on December 7th. We got permission from our supervisor to drive from Purilanoi.
Starting point is 00:25:38 The press caught Wisconsin, which was like a seven or eight-hour drive. We went the exact same path that they would have taken. One of Doug's Facebook posts said they were at the Rills' largest truck stop. So we wanted to see what that looked like. We wanted to see if they were actually there. I asked Rose about that, and she told me that, yes,
Starting point is 00:25:58 they stopped it. The truck stopped. She can guess. Upon arriving at the truck stop, detectives begin the tedious task of scrutinizing surveillance footage from November 26th Thanksgiving day. After several hours of reviewing footage, their tenacity pays off. Detective Watkins and I see a truck that fits the description of Rosa's truck pulling to the
Starting point is 00:26:24 truck stop and pull up to a gas pump. We see two dogs jumping around, and we also see Rose. But we do not see Doug anywhere. When we see that Doug is not in the truck, we immediately know that we can't call Rose and confront her over the phone about this. Police notice something else in the footage that gets their attention. In the bed of the truck are two large white boxes.
Starting point is 00:26:54 At that point, Detective Wyckens and I both said to each other, I bet that's Doug. I bet Doug's in that box. but that's Doug. I bet Doug's in that box. There's foul play. She's lying to us. So then we contacted the local jurisdiction. We were able to get in a search warrant
Starting point is 00:27:14 with the assistance of the Pierce County Sheriff's Office. And we went to Rose's house with the search warrant and the searcher house. But when detectives arrive at the home, Rose is not there. We didn't really foresee that there was a huge safety threat for the officer, so we just set up all around our neighborhood
Starting point is 00:27:35 and waited for it to come home. When we see Rose pulling, that's when we approach her. Let her know where we're from, and that we need to talk to her about the investigation. I said, Rose, do you want us to find Doug? And she looked at me and said, no, no, I don't want you to find me. There's way more to this story than we knew about. This could be a possible murder.
Starting point is 00:28:03 That's when she went through the history of abuse and how mean Doug was to her. She's telling me about Doug grabbing her ass, squeezing it to the point where she's got bruises or, you know, where it's forcing her to have sex. As detectives take Rose's emotional statement, their colleagues perform an exhaustive search of her home and vehicle. One of the officers found it was a cardboard box that shotgun comes in when you go by
Starting point is 00:28:36 and partially empty box of shotgun shells. She was confronted about that. She said, well, that's what's supposed to go in the garbage, but I instead put it in the vehicle, which didn't really make sense or explain to us. Why there was an empty box of shotgun shells in her back seat. Just in her demeanor and the way of talking to her, I knew Doug was dead, and the Rose had something to do with it, and I just had to figure out a way to get her to tell me. I just wanted to, you know, sympathize and empathize with her and try to help her justify what happened.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Rose was very frustrated when talking to her. She then just blurted out that he was gonna kill me. And she said, I had no choice. Before Rose continues, detectives put her on pause. The Illinois, if it's a homicide interview, you have to videotape the interview. I said, we were gonna go back to Pierce County Sheriff's Office and you can tell me the story of that.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Coming up, police hear from Rose the horrifying truth of what happened to Doug. I saw the shot coming behind the clothes and I picked it up and I walked into my room and had this look. I was just amazed that someone could do this and an unexpected motive surfaces. They had a sexual relationship for the last couple years. December 7, 2015. After speaking to Murder Suspect, Rose Koonai at her Prescott Wisconsin home, detectives from Peoria County, Illinois transport rose to a local sheriff's office, hoping they're
Starting point is 00:30:38 on the brink of a murder confession. She was pretty relaxed on the car right there from her house to the Sheriff's Office. The Hearst County investigators get the room all set up. So Detective Wyck and I go in there. I read her Miranda Rides. She paused. And then she explained her version of what happened. Rose says her interaction with Doug on the night of November
Starting point is 00:31:05 22, 2015 was both non-consensual and violent from the beginning. He raised shriner and he grabbed my crotch, and he grabbed my breasts. And he was torn in my ear, and he said he is going to have sex with me. Rose tells us they get upstairs and Rose gets in the closet and then Doug starts threatening to kill everybody in her family. We stand in there and I am scared. You may start talking to us in the floor. You said, you've got to go in your bitch on the command of your roof. Rose says fearing a sexual assault,
Starting point is 00:31:51 she reached for a shotgun in the closet. I saw a shotgun laying behind the clothes, and I picked it up, and I walked into my room, and he had this look, and he called me a bitch. And he told me to get on my knees. And I fired to go. I hit him over here. And that man looked at me and started coming at me and he said,
Starting point is 00:32:26 what the f***? And I'm firing at you. Rose described the first shot in Doug's side and the second shot in Doug's chest. Rose goes on and says that after she shoots him, she panics, she knows her son's coming home. So she gets a sheet and drags, dug down the stairs, and she put Doug's body in the box. How did he fit in that box?
Starting point is 00:32:55 How did you get him in there? Okay, and he was still in the sheet? Yes, I had a record. She said that in between when it happened and the day that, you know, that we were there, that she'd painted, repainted the room and cleaned up all the blood and got rid of everything. Rose also explains she placed some of Doug's personal belongings into a second box in the shed. And over the next four days leading up to Thanksgiving, she assumed Doug's identity.
Starting point is 00:33:30 She started using his phone and communicating with family, sent text to Brenda, and then she is the one that actually was on Facebook using Doug's account. Rose said that she made the Facebook post. It was suicidal in nature. Rose made the post that talked about them stopping at the biggest truck stop in the world.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Rose made the post telling Sheila that they were on their way down to Thanksgiving dinner. Was that where you made the text message or the Facebook post from? I did, because I thought I needed more time and I just, I did not know what to do. And I remember that we were supposed to go down and some things came in. Rose tells detectives that Doug's body stayed boxed up in the shed for four days until she finally reached out for help.
Starting point is 00:34:31 A friend of mine in a long time ago, it said if I needed help, I could call. And so I called. This friend's name was Claren't Hicks. Rose says Claren't doesn't know about her killing. The just knows to get rid of the boxes. I did not tell him what was in the boxes. And he said he would take the boxes and put them somewhere when everybody had found them.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I do not know where they are. Following her confession, on December 8, Rose is arrested for the murder of Doug Bailey. As word of her arrest travels quickly, those following the case are shaken by the details. We're just how cruel can a person be? We just could not believe something like that happened. When I heard Rose was arrested, I was, I don't want to say relieved, but at least I thought there was going to be some justice for his death. When we first met, I think Rose was very likable. She was fun.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I was just amazed that someone could do this. You don't take a human body and throw it away like a piece of garbage to never be found. With Rose behind bars, investigators are eager to track down her potential accomplice Clarence Hicks. Clarence was located within a couple of days after Rose's arrest.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Clarence was a cooperative with authorities and informed them that he had dropped the boxes off of Bridging and Tuckney. He also stuck to his statement that he didn't know what was in the boxes. Clarence also reveals a piece of information to law enforcement that Rose conveniently omitted. Clarence did tell the troopers that interviewed him initially that he and Rose had a sexual relationship for the last couple years. Rose told us nothing about a romantic relationship with Clarence.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And one thing that definitely came to mind was that she didn't call police right after she killed Doug. Rose instead got rid of Doug by giving Doug's body to her lover Clarence and getting her rid of that way, which shows possible mode of that she intended to kill Doug prior to that night. Coming up, the attempt to recover Doug treats dangerous. It was a very, very hard terrain rock area that was several hundred feet below the bridge. And in a Pierce County courtroom,
Starting point is 00:37:22 a stunning decision adds to the pain of Doug's family. I did cuss in the courtroom. I just said, what the... just happened here. With Rose Kunai in custody for the murder of her boyfriend, Doug Bailey, police are determined to recover the victim's remains, and Rose's other flame, Clarence Hicks, has agreed to help. Claren showed where the two boxes were in Kentucky off a bridge, in a very, very hard terrain rock area that was several hundred feet below the bridge. After further assessing the location of the boxes, investigators embark on the difficult recovery mission. It was a very intense effort to get the boxes back up to where they could recover them.
Starting point is 00:38:28 One box had unfortunately a dug in it, and the other box had Doug's belongings. When Doug's body is recovered, by that point, there's 12 days of decomposition. You know, decomposition is going to be sped up by the fact that he's inside a box. I have seen decomposed bodies that have been shot and determining what's an exit and what's an entry is harder the further along in decomposition. For the Bailey family, the recovery of Doug's body proves crushing.
Starting point is 00:39:04 That night on the news, we seen them bring my brothers. But yeah, in the box, up the mountainside, we were just in shock. While Doug's family begins to mourn, investigators receive the autopsy on December 9th and it provides them with some additional insight into the shooting that took Doug's life. We were notified that the autopsy results were not consistent
Starting point is 00:39:32 with Rose's dog was shot one time in the side, and the other shot was in the back. When Rose had said that she had shot Doug in the chest, coming at her. To tighten their case against Rose, investigators also tracked down the murder weapon. Rose told the Pierce County investigators that the gun was at her sister's house.
Starting point is 00:39:57 They went to her sister's house, conducted a search, and they found pieces of the gun in her garage. And when police get their hands on records of electronic correspondence between Rose and Clarence Hicks, their findings only further incriminate both parties. The Pierce County investigator did an awful lot of work tracking down all of their emails, their text messages, and found all kinds of stuff that Rose had said. I wish she was dead. I need to get away from him.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Things that very plainly illustrated the fact that this was planned. But while Rose faces a first-degree murder charge, the evidence against Clarence only garners the charge of hiding corpse. Well, he took the advice of his attorney. He played no contest, which is pleading guilty to hide in the corpse. While Clarence strikes a deal, Rose chooses a different path. And in August of 2016, her case goes to trial While Clarence strikes a deal, Rose chooses a different path.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And in August of 2016, her case goes to trial in a Pierce County Wisconsin courtroom. The prosecution, during this case, focused on the motivation, the motive, prior conversations, and Clarence being involved in a relationship with her. But Rose's defense team argues she was justified in shooting Doug because of her allegations of physical and mental abuse. Rose had a very competent, brilliant, knowledgeable defense team that was able to tell her story in a way that truly represented the situation she was in. They showed photographs.
Starting point is 00:41:49 They were in pictures she took of herself that showed bruises on her legs and her hips her back. There were no reports that I saw to the police department that reported Doug being abusive towards Rose. Doug being abusive towards Rose. In one of the trials most dramatic moments, Rose takes the stand and asserts the mistreatment she suffered at the hands of Doug. She claimed that he locked her up for three weeks and abused her. Rose's claims come as a shock to Doug's family.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Oh, our mouths are dropping. Things that was coming out of her mouth, as she said, Doug's family. Oh, our mouths are dropping. Things that was coming out of her mouth, and she said, Doug, did. I just didn't believe that. She loved Doug literally to death. I believe she did this because Doug was actually going to leave this time, and she was going to lose him. On August 18, 2016, the burden of who to believe
Starting point is 00:42:45 is placed on the jury's shoulders. After nearly 14 hours of deliberation, Rose is found not guilty of first-degree murder. But the jury is hung on a second-degree murder charge resulting in a mistrial. I believe that some jurors were convinced that she was the victim of domestic violence in a terrible situation, and this was the only option for her. I dumbfounded. I was like, you gotta be kidding me. She shot him. She packed him up like a present,
Starting point is 00:43:22 and that's how is that not murder? She packed him up like a present, and that's, how is that not murder? I did cuss in the courtroom. I just said, what the... just happened here. I was devastated. The jury does convict rows of hiding a corpse, but any chance of retrying her on the second-degree murder charge is quickly put to rest
Starting point is 00:43:45 when she agrees to a plea deal. The judge said there may be people in court today that may not like what I'm going to say. And that's when he sends her to, I believe it was seven years' appropriation, time served as any prison time. And that was it. She was free to go.
Starting point is 00:44:09 As Rose walks away from the courtroom of free woman, Doug Bailey's family is left with only memories of their beloved brother. What I miss the most about Doug, his is antics, his jokes, his personality. Now I can light up a room and he walks in. I miss so much about him. You could have a bad day and he could make you laugh. You know, he always had something positive. I miss some more than life itself.
Starting point is 00:44:43 To reach your plea deal, Rose Kunai pled guilty to aggravated battery. She remains free and faces no additional charges in the murder of Doug Bailey.

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