So Supernatural - ALIEN: Colares UFO Incident

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

In 1977, on the small island of Colares, Brazil, a series of UFO sightings escalated to full-blown attacks. After being hit by lasers, witnesses reported symptoms like paralysis and burns that landed ...a handful of them in the hospital. The Air Force was sent in to study the phenomenon, but to this day no one knows if the crafts were manmade or extraterrestrial in nature.For a full list of sources, please visit: sosupernaturalpodcast.com/alien-colares-ufo-incidentSo Supernatural is an Audiochuck and Crime House production. Find us on social!Instagram: @sosupernatualpodTwitter: @_sosupernaturalFacebook: /sosupernaturalpod Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I think the reason why I like stories about the supernatural is because a lot of the time they bring us hope, right? Hope that there is something beyond this world waiting for us. Hope that miracles really do exist. Hope that maybe we're not alone when it comes to saving our planet. Believe it or not, that's actually how I feel when I hear some of the UFO stories. Like when some unidentified craft shuts down a nuclear missile before it's launched. Or stories like Valiant Thor, who works for some intergalactic federation that's supposedly looking after us.
Starting point is 00:00:41 These things make me feel, I don't know, better? Like maybe if aliens are out there, they truly do come in peace. But then, my dreams were crushed when I heard today's story. In 1977, people on a small Brazilian island called Kolaris reported a wave of UFO sightings. But this wasn't just some lights in the sky or a silver disc hovering above the ocean. This thing shot at them with lasers causing real bodily harm, leaving scars and physical proof, meaning that this was a whole heck of a lot more than mass hysteria. And whatever it was, it wasn't here to help us.
Starting point is 00:01:30 But maybe that just means that there are multiple species of aliens using Earth as their sandbox. And like humans, some are good and some are evil. Or is it possible that the UFOs seen in Colaris Brazil may not even be aliens at all, but instead something of our own making? I'm Ashley Flowers, and this is so supernatural. Okay. You can't talk about UFO sightings without touching on government cover-ups. But y'all, this case is a little different. You'll have to stick around to the end to see how, though. I'm Yvette Jentele. And I'm her sister, Rasha Pecorero.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Today, we're covering the Kolades UFO incident, which is considered one of the most documented alien encounters in all of Brazilian history. And that is a big deal because UFOs are a huge part of Brazilian culture. Roughly one in three people there believes in aliens, which is right on par with the number of believers here in the U.S. The difference is, in Brazil, lots of elected government officials openly admit to being believers. The Brazilian Senate has even put out statements formally inviting extraterrestrials to attend some of their sessions. All to say, Brazil is a country where people are very open to the idea that aliens exist.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And it's no wonder when you look at what they experienced in the late 1970s. Also keep in mind, there are a lot of Portuguese names in this story, so please please, please, please, forgive us if our pronunciations aren't spot on, but we are trying. With all of that said, let's turn back the clock to October 10, 1977. That's when a 40-year-old man named Orlando Trindaji is living in a tiny Brazilian town called Kolares. It's on an island called Ilya de Kolares in the northern part of the country. It has a population of a few thousand people, and it's technically in the Amazon rainforest. Since Kolares is surrounded by ocean and rivers, most of the people who live there are fishermen.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Apparently, Orlando is on too, because he's awake, either on a boat or near the ocean, we're not quite sure, at around 2 a.m. that morning. That's when he looks up and sees a bright light in the sky. It's pretty far off in the distance, and it's hard for him to say exactly what it is. Orlando thinks it looks like a traffic light at first, other than the fact that it's blue. Also, it's hovering above the water, and it's moving outward further into the sea. Orlando has no idea what to make of this, and he doesn't seem to think it's coming from a boat or from a plane. But he keeps his eyes on the sky and watches the things. slowly drift outward.
Starting point is 00:05:19 It takes about three and a half hours until 5.30 in the morning for this thing to actually get far enough away that he can't see it anymore. On its own, I know this isn't the most exciting UFO report, but Orlando's story is important because it's the latest in a wave of sightings all over Collades. People have been spotting strange lights on the island since at least August. But Orlando sparks a whole new chapter. And the next incident happens only 24 hours later. At 3 in the morning on October 11th,
Starting point is 00:05:59 a farm worker in the next village over is ready to leave for work. His name is Miguel Swarith. But before he heads out, he hears shouting from outside the house. It's a bunch of people yelling, there it goes, there it goes. And naturally, Miguel wants to know what every one, is so worked up about. So he steps outside just to find all of his neighbors gathered in the street, and they're all pointing and looking up. When Miguel glances at the sky, he sees an orange, red light about 200 feet above his head. For context, that means it's about as high up as the top
Starting point is 00:06:38 of Disney World's Cinderella Castle, or if you've ever been to Pisa, it's about the height of the leaning tower of Pisa. The point is, this light is too high up to be a flashlight, but way too low to be a plane. And while Miguel is watching, he sees a blue beam come shooting out of it like a laser. Right away, Miguel knows this is bad news, and he's worried about his wife who's still inside the house. So he darts back indoors, but the moment he steps through the entryway, Miguel gets this tingling feeling like when you get a little static shock except in Miguel's case
Starting point is 00:07:20 it's all over his body he assumes it must have come from that blue light beam as this sensation washes over Miguel he realizes he can't move he's physically frozen in place for the next few minutes Miguel is stuck right there by the front door He can't even yell or warn his wife about what's going on.
Starting point is 00:07:45 A chill runs through him. Then he heats up to be uncomfortably warm, then he cools and heats up again, repeating this pattern a few more times. And even though Miguel isn't physically able to talk, his throat is getting sore and hoarse, almost like he's been screaming. The good news is that after a few minutes, these symptoms fade. He returns to a normal temperature, finds that he can take a few more steps into his home, and returns to normal.
Starting point is 00:08:19 It's not clear to me if he goes back outside to see if anyone else was impacted, but it seems like by the time Miguel can move again, the light in the sky is gone. Also, I don't know exactly what he does after that, if he reaches out to authorities, a doctor, or anyone else. but I do know that the UFO sightings in Coladis are far from over. The next day, there are more incidents reported just like Miguel's. Across the island of Colares in the dark of night, people notice strange objects in the sky, and they're often firing beams of light. The reports are a little contradictory.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Sometimes the glow of the ship itself is said to be blue, Other times, it's yellow or even red. And the descriptions of the beam also vary. Most witnesses say it's red, but a few say it's blue. One thing is reported a lot, though. Whenever someone pauses to get a better look, they feel a sudden jolt or a shock. Sometimes they actually see the beam of light hit them.
Starting point is 00:09:32 But other times, they just assume they've been struck, just like Miguel was. And the tingling electric feeling always leaves the people paralyzed for several minutes afterward. By the evening of October 12th, people in and around Coladas are really on edge. There have been at least a dozen sightings
Starting point is 00:09:54 that we know of, and rumors are flying. And nobody knows who or what is controlling these lights. And to make matters worse, at 10 p.m. that night, the electricity all over town abruptly shuts off. Nobody knows if this was planned maintenance and ordinary glitch or something more concerning like some kind of attack.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Naturally, most locals are too nervous to even go to sleep that night, so they all lie awake as the hours tick by. At 3.25 in the morning, a pair of priests decide to go for a quick walk around town just to stretch their legs and calm their nerves and check around just to make sure everything's okay. Well, while they're walking, they both see a bright light over the sea. It's red on the top and blue on the bottom, and it's brilliant enough to illuminate the entire town. It's also moving over the water really fast, and one of the priests says it's faster than any known airplane. But he doesn't specify exactly how fast it's going and what does he say that it's utterly silent from there
Starting point is 00:11:15 the reports keep piling up throughout the rest of october the UFO sightings continue around colares so do the mysterious attacks on the 15th a 36-year-old man wakes up at 4 in the morning to see a bright light shining through his bedroom window. Except the guy's only half awake, so he doesn't realize how weird this really is. So he just goes back to sleep. But when he gets up later that morning, he feels like he has the flu. He's weak, he's dizzy, and he's got a terrible headache. On top of that, there's a weird, painful red welt on his leg, which is even hot to the touch.
Starting point is 00:12:02 The man can't make sense of any of it, but he gets the gut feeling that the light somehow did this to him. The next day, October 16th at 6.30 in the evening, Dr. Vela Eiji's Sissim Carvalho is leaving the hospital where she works when she sees a light silently hovering over the parking lot. Dr. Carvalho is a professional scientist, so she knows the importance of gathering evidence and document. She writes a description of the unidentified craft, which is one of the most detailed accounts we have at this point. Carvalho says the ship is shaped like a cylinder, with a top part that's narrower than the bottom, a bit like a red solo cup, if you will, that's turned upside down. It's about 10 feet tall and 6.5 feet wide, and the thing is moving, but not like any vehicle. Carvalo has ever seen. Instead, it jerks around starting and stopping abruptly and making sharp turns without warning. And luckily, this thing doesn't attack Dr. Carvalo like it did
Starting point is 00:13:16 everybody else. Instead, it darts around for a while and then eventually just disappears out of sight. But it keeps coming back, night after night all the way through the end of November, The light continues to appear all over the town of Kolares and in the surrounding villages. These incidents tend to play out the same way. The light appears, sometimes blast a colorful laser, and then people feel paralyzed and tingly all over. Except as time goes on, in some cases, they begin to report headaches and nausea the next morning. Many people also say that when they're frozen,
Starting point is 00:14:02 They feel a weight or a tightness in their chest. Others get this distinct sensation like a lot of their blood is being sucked out of their bodies. People report this so consistently, they eventually give the lights a nickname. Chupa Chupa Chupa, which totally reminds me of the phrase Chupacabra, and that makes total sense. Chupacabra is Spanish for goat sucker. and the very familiar Portuguese phrase Chupa Chupa literally translates into English as Sucker Sucker. By November, at least 40 people have been injured badly enough
Starting point is 00:14:45 to need medical treatment thanks to the Chupa Chupa, which now means it is time to get the Brazilian government involved. All through the fall of 1977, strange lights repeatedly appeared over Koladas, Brazil, and the surrounding countryside. By October, eyewitnesses were seeing them almost every single night, and occasionally they also spotted beams of light that cause paralysis and other symptoms. Naturally, some of the people who got hit by the beam, headed to the local hospital for treatment. Keep in mind that Coladis Island was a tiny rural fishing town.
Starting point is 00:15:40 There weren't a ton of medical facilities for the locals to choose from. Most or all of these patients ended up at the hospital where Dr. Caballo worked. And at the start of the wave before seeing the UFO for herself, guess what? She was a skeptic, meaning she didn't believe in aliens. but she also didn't know what was hurting all of her patients. I mean, what causes burn marks on someone's chest or face? And some of them had huge scorches on their torso and their limbs. And Dr. Cavallo knows that usually these kind of injuries need two to three days to heal.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Normally, about 72 hours after a blister forms, it starts peeling. And then there will be healthy skin under skin. kind of like how you feel a lot better after a sunburn flakes off, except several times she'll be investigating a patient's fresh-looking blister only for it to peel open right before her eyes. It's like someone hit fast forward on the healing process and the skin is mending in a matter of seconds rather than days. By the time the appointment is over, all that remains, is a scar. On top of that, Carvalho knows this process should be incredibly painful, no matter how long it takes. But most of her patients say, their burns don't hurt at all. They're warm or
Starting point is 00:17:17 hot to the touch, but not uncomfortable, which is interesting because they also have puncture wounds on or near the burned areas. But other than that, there's no real pattern to the attacks. Carvalo sees men, women, old people, young children, everyone in between. There's no rhyme or reason to who gets targeted by the Chupa Chupa and who doesn't. In total, Carvalo ends up treating 40 different people during the fall of 1977, all with the same burn marks. And many of them say the medical problems began after a light in the sky blasted them with a laser beam. It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Carvalo doesn't know how to explain what's happening. But she's grappling with that question on the night of October 22nd, 1977. For context, it has been six days since she first saw the UFO for herself, and a month or two, give or take, since her first Chupa Chupa Chupa patient checked into the hospital.
Starting point is 00:18:27 At 7.30 p.m., Dr. Carvallo is outside. She looks up and the light is there again. It looks exactly like it did the last time around and it's still moving in that jerky motion. And from what I can tell, it's around this time that she finally accepts the evidence that's right in front of her. I mean, Carvalho has seen a UFO for herself twice now. She's treated its victims. So finally, she becomes a believer. and accepts that UFOs are real. But that acceptance doesn't stop more patients from pouring into the hospital night after night.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Plus, their symptoms are getting stranger and more serious. In some cases, their hair is falling out around the affected area, almost like they're suffering from radiation exposure. Except radiation poisoning doesn't typically leave people, unable to move. But some of Carvalo's patients end up in a kind of rigamortes state, staring ahead with their eyes locked. The early witnesses were able to shake this effect off after a few minutes, but now her patients spend hours or days unable to move.
Starting point is 00:19:51 In fact, one evening early in the wave of sightings, a woman was wheeled into the emergency room with burns all over her chest. They were so severe that her life was in danger. So Carvalo dropped everything to treat her. By the time Carvalo shift ended later that day, it wasn't clear if the patient would actually survive. And tragically, when Carvalo clocked back in the next morning, she learned that that woman had passed away the night before from a heart attack.
Starting point is 00:20:27 This was the first time someone died after experiencing a chupa-chupa attack. No autopsy was performed, so it's unclear how much her injuries contributed to her heart attack. But it's really alarming, to say the least, because it's not typical for people to be hospitalized with laser burns, even the really severe ones. Actually, it's pretty rare to hear people dying from alien encounters too. and Carvalho cannot get this woman out of her head. She keeps wondering if she could have done something different to save the patient or if she's going to start losing more people to these aliens. So once the woman's formal death certificate gets filed,
Starting point is 00:21:14 Carvalo takes a look at it. It seems she's curious to see how the other doctors described her injuries and what theories they have about what killed her. Except the death certificate doesn't even mention the woman's burns. As for the cause of death, well, the certificate says it was a heart attack. But Carvalho has no idea how the coroner came to that conclusion because the woman didn't even receive an autopsy. Dr. Carvalho knows this wasn't a mistake.
Starting point is 00:21:48 No physician would fail to notice the terrible, life-threatening burn marks on the woman. And no one would forget to order a post-mortem after losing a patient under such mysterious circumstances. To me, it sort of sounds like a cover-up. Yeah, 100% it does. And she's not the only one who's suspicious. Across collares, people are asking questions like, what's going on here? Who's attacking us? Where did these lights come from?
Starting point is 00:22:20 And of course, why are they so focused on this time? fishing village. Even the local police can't uncover any answers. They launch a few small investigations that go nowhere. Then the mayor files a formal request with the federal government. He says, Kolades is under attack and the Brazilian military needs to come defend them. The Brazilian Air Force responds to his requests, not by dispatching troops, but by sending a team of investigators. By the end of October, they launched a huge program called Apra Sao Prato, translated from Portuguese, that means Operation Plate.
Starting point is 00:23:07 So it's pretty clear from the name alone what the purpose of Apracalo Prato is. The Air Force apparently believed the lights are in fact flying plates, or as we call them flying saucers from outer space, and they want together all the evidence they can about a potential alien invasion. Earlier, we said the Colades incident was one of the most documented UFO waves in all of Brazilian history.
Starting point is 00:23:38 And that's because the Opera Sal Prato investigators are so thorough. See, the program is run by Air Force Captain Uri Rangi, Hollanda. And when he first gets the orders to go to Collares, let's just say he isn't thrilled. Hollanda thinks the people of Collares are just imagining the Chupa Chupa. And this feels very degrading to even repeat.
Starting point is 00:24:05 But he believes a lot of the locals are uneducated. He thinks many don't know how to read and Holanda assumes they're all too ignorant to know what's really going on. But pretty soon, he ends up singing a different tune. and to explain why, we need to talk about the timeline here. Remember we mentioned at the beginning that people were spotting some strange lights in the sky around the island of Collares beginning in August of 1977, and they lasted until November 28th of that year. Opera Sal Prato goes from October of 1977 until January of 1978.
Starting point is 00:24:48 So they're stationed in Collares while they're stationed in Coleris while, the lights are still appearing. They're witnessing these attacks for themselves. And since they have cameras with them, they capture 500 photos and 15 hours of recordings over the course of the investigation. During those four months, Hollanda sees the lights with his own eyes. He meets people with bizarre medical problems that can't be explained, and he captures tons of evidence on film. Hopefully, he also learns an important lesson about humility and not making assumptions about people based on their education level. At one point during the investigation, although I'm not exactly sure when,
Starting point is 00:25:36 Holanda hears about an eyewitness. It's a young boy who spotted the UFO while gathering clay by a river somewhere on the island. Holanda wants to investigate his sighting for himself. So he and a team go to the same river, the problem is that by the time they arrive, it's 7 p.m. close to sunset and it's pouring rain. In these conditions, it would be almost impossible to see anything in the sky. So most of Hollanda's men head to a nearby shack to dry off and drink coffee. But Hollanda stays by the river, his curiosity is eating at him. and he just has this gut feeling that something will happen if he stays outdoors.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And sure enough, as soon as he's alone, he sees something in the sky above him. Barely high enough to clear the tops of the trees, it's covered in red and green lights, but Hollanda can't make out anything about its shape or size. And it's super noisy. Halanda thinks it sounds like a jet engine combined with a really loud air conditioning unit, which is very unusual, right, since a lot of people say UFOs are notoriously silent. The thing zips over Hollanda's head moving incredibly fast.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Hollanda is shocked that any pilot would even dare to fly so low to the ground in such terrible conditions. It seems way too risky unless they have. had very advanced technology. It's also stunning that Hollanda ends up just staring at the sky in astonishment for several minutes after the vessel disappears. Eventually, one of his men comes to check on him, and Hollanda describes what he saw. But he can't explain how any of this is even possible.
Starting point is 00:27:39 By the time Opera Sal Prato is over, Hollanda is a true believer in aliens. The evidence has convinced him. More importantly, Holanda thinks the Chupa Chupa are a serious threat. He doesn't understand how their ships or lasers work, which means he doesn't know how to defend the Brazilian people if a war breaks out. He's absolutely terrified. And it gets worse.
Starting point is 00:28:09 One day, in January of 1978, Hollanda gets an unexpected call from his superior office. officers. They say, effective immediately, Hollanda and his men need to wrap up their investigation, close the case, and go home. Holanda is confused because his work is far from done. He asks for clarification, but the officers only repeat that Opera Sal Prato has been shut down. Someone very powerful wants the investigation to stop, but they won't even say who that powerful person is. Hollanda doesn't know if they're with the Brazilian government, if they're a foreign official, or anything. His superior officers also tell him that all his findings are going to be classified.
Starting point is 00:28:59 He's not allowed to tell anyone what he's learned or share his photos or videos. And Hollanda just doesn't believe there's any national security need to keep Opera Sal Prato secret. Instead, he believes the people of Brazil. Zill deserve to know the truth. But orders are orders. So he tells his men to never speak about what they've learned. And he's instructed to begin silencing civilians too. I mean, Russia, how many cases have we done where we hear the same exact thing? They try to silence everyone, but the truth always prevails in my humble opinion. That's right. The truth will set you free. Anyhow, one day, an Air Force official approaches Dr. Carvalo and tells her,
Starting point is 00:29:51 the so-called Colada's incident is nothing but a mass hallucination. Her patients are all imagining their symptoms. Okay, I mean, obviously, Carvalho knows that this isn't true. But when she tries to argue, the official tells her, this isn't up for debate. She will treat her patients as though they're a lot of. experiencing a shared delusion. And even though Carvalo knows it's wrong, here we go again, she caves to the pressure.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And we understand that because so many of them do. From then on, any time someone comes to her seeking treatment, she refers them to a mental health professional and tells them they need therapy. But Carvalo does find one way to fight back. She suspects that Air Force wants to comfort confiscate all of her paperwork, including the notes she's been keeping on all of her patients. And Carvalho just knows that if she hands over her files, they'll never see the light of day again.
Starting point is 00:31:00 She figures if the people of Brazil can't see her research, well, then nobody can. And she doesn't want the Air Force to be able to study her hard work while hiding it from everyone else. So what does she do? She burns all of her documents and research. That is so incredibly sad. It is, but I guess it's a symbolic act of defiance on her part. But it's not like destroying her research is going to bring more transparency to the people of Colares. But she knows it would be risky to actually publish her research or go to the press.
Starting point is 00:31:42 and Carvalo is right to be careful with the Air Force because it's very clear that they're willing to do anything to keep the information about the chupa-chupa a secret, maybe even commit murder. In 1977 and 1978, Brazil's Air Force investigated a wave of UFO sightings and attacks in Kolares. The program was called Opera Rasao Prato. And once the study was done, Air Force officials announced that their findings were a state secret and therefore classified.
Starting point is 00:32:31 But Prato's director, Captain Hollanda, can't stop thinking about what he saw and experienced firsthand. He needs to know more. So he starts reading every book, every newspaper article, and every report he can find about other UFO incidents, especially ones in other countries. Holanda is looking for patterns, trying to figure out what the aliens might want. But he can't make sense of any of it,
Starting point is 00:33:01 in part because most of the stories he reads are so different from the Kolodis incident. It's very rare for UFOs to attack people, and burn their skin. It's even rarer for visitors from outer space to kill people. There are maybe five or six alleged incidents ever in the history of the world. And Hollanda can't figure out why they're hurting and killing people in Brazil. It's the sort of mystery that keeps him up at night. That's right. In fact, one evening, Hollanda is lying awake in bed like usual. And I'm not sure exactly when this happens, but I assume it's after Apra Sal Prato is over.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Since he's home and not in Collares, his wife is asleep beside him, and he's basically trying to clear his mind so he can get some rest too. But at midnight, he's still up. He's lying on his side with his back to the rest of the room. When suddenly, he hears a clicking noise, like someone just flicked a switch on the fuse box. Then a brilliant light comes streaming in through his window, and after a moment or two, it just fades away. Holanda is terrified. Then he fills an arm reaching around his stomach, like somebody is squeezing or grabbing him from behind. Hollanda rolls over to see who's touching him. He sees this human, and he sees this human like figure, it's about five feet tall and wearing a bulky silvery gray metallic jumpsuit.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It looks like the spacesuits astronauts wear. As for the figure's face, it's hard for Hollanda to make out anything in the dark, but it appears to be completely blank and featureless, as in no eyes, no mouth, no nose. It's not clear to Hollanda if these things actually look like this or if they're wearing a mask. But next, the being speaks to Hollanda. The voice is robotic, like it's using a computer to speak. It says, calm down, we won't do you any harm. As soon as it's done talking,
Starting point is 00:35:30 Hollanda hears the clicking noise again. The light flashes, and when it fades, the figure is gone. Strangest of all, Hollanda's wife is still sound asleep right next to him in bed. She doesn't wake up at any point during this entire encounter.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Okay, now at this point, you're probably thinking maybe Hollanda just dozed off and had some sort of wild, vivid dream. Except the next day, Holanda reports to work on the base where he's stationed. Like usual, the first thing he does in the morning is stand in formation in the yard while they raise a flag.
Starting point is 00:36:15 It's just your typical morning for Holanda. But all through the ceremony, his arm is super itchy. Like, it's taking every ounce of discipline that Holanda has not to scratch it. He grits his teeth, doing his very best not to squirm. Then finally, the flag makes it to the top of the mast and Hollanda's superior officer dismisses him. Immediately, Holanda rolls up his shirt sleeve to find his arm is red and inflamed.
Starting point is 00:36:48 There's a bright red dot at the exact center of the affected area. Then, when Hollanda presses on the red dot, he can feel something hard and solid under his skin. Holanda ends up seeing multiple doctors for advice, including one good friend who isn't affiliated with the Air Force. They all poke and prodded his arm and they agree, there's definitely something there. But when one physician orders x-rays, the results show absolutely nothing. Clearly, Holanda isn't imagining this thing, but it seems to be invisible to the imaging equipment. Holanda asked the doctor
Starting point is 00:37:32 if he can have the object removed and the physician says he doesn't think it's a good idea because as it turns out the doctor has seen this before there was at least one other man working on Opera Sal Prato a lieutenant who came in with similar symptoms in his left thigh beneath the irritated area
Starting point is 00:37:53 he also had a foreign object under the skin but none of Hollanda's doctor want to try and remove the items, because they don't know what complications might come from the surgery. Plus, it's got to be tricky operating on something you can't even see on x-rays. Hearing that, I can't help but think of the deep dive we did on alien implants. There are so many similarities, right? With people waking up to see inhuman strangers in their rooms, and then they discover these tiny objects that are inserted in their bodies. and again, they're hard to take out as well.
Starting point is 00:38:33 It just makes me think about patient 17. I mean, Holanda and his friend could have been basically patient 18 and 19 with these implants, right? But if you check out our episode on Alien Implants, you'll see that in that episode, those doctors were able to see the implants on an X-ray. Well, by this point, Holanda has also done a lot of reading on you. UFOs and alien sightings. And he's thinking something similar. Whatever is in his body, aliens must have put it there.
Starting point is 00:39:09 But if he can't find a doctor who's willing to remove it and he can't publicly talk about what's going on, Olanda doesn't know what to do. He decides to just stay quiet, keep his head down, and wait to see if the Air Force ever lets him tell the world what he's been through. Later, he learns the lieutenant who also had an implant in his leg apparently died of a stroke, even though he was much younger than Holanda.
Starting point is 00:39:40 And while it wasn't clear if the two things were medically related, it still seemed to freak Holanda out. But before he knows it, 20 years fly by just like that. By 1997, Holanda is 57 years old, and he's sick of, of waiting for answers. Apra Sao Prato is still classified. Hollanda isn't supposed to talk about it, but he's been retired since 1992,
Starting point is 00:40:10 so he's a private citizen now, and the secret has been weighing on him for way too long. So he reaches out to a Brazilian publication called UFO magazine. Hollanda tells the reporters there that he's ready to reveal the truth about the Chupa Chupa. Then he gives a very lengthy interview, which is published in its entirety. It's 38 pages long. And in this discussion, he talks about the witnesses he questioned during Apra Sal Prato,
Starting point is 00:40:45 his sightings by the river, the encounter with the strange beings in his home, and the implant that's still in his body. The interview, needless to say, makes an enormous splash. People all over Brazil are thrilled to see that someone in the government is finally willing to share what they know. Hollanda becomes a hero in the UFO community. And as far as anyone can tell, Hollanda seems delighted to finally be sharing his truth. He gets a little bounce in his step like he's excited about the new direction his life is taking. all of the fear he used to feel is gone. So imagine how shocking it must be to his friends and family
Starting point is 00:41:37 when three months later, Hollanda is found dead in his home. His cause of death is an apparent suicide. His loved ones all say this makes absolutely no sense. Hollanda was happy. He was excited about the future. There was no sign whatsoever. that he was thinking of taking his own life.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Now, I want to acknowledge, the warning signs before suicide aren't always easy to spot. We never truly know what struggles someone is dealing with internally. And maybe that was the case with Holanda too. But I can't ignore how suspicious the timing is. Naturally, rumors start flying that Holanda didn't really die by his own hand. Instead, someone with the government must have murdered him for saying too much and then staged the scene afterward just to look like a suicide. Now, I don't know if there's any truth to those rumors.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I mean, to this day, Hollanda's death is still officially considered a suicide. And I'm not totally certain a cover-up would make much sense, considering that seven full years after Hollanda's death, The Brazilian government changes their tune on the Kaladis events. I mean, that's a long freaking time. I'm not sure exactly what motivates this, but in 2004, they declassify some of the Apra Sao Prato records. The problem is, based on what has been declassified, we still don't know what the ships
Starting point is 00:43:17 in Koladis were or what they wanted. We can only speculate. And it's really interesting that the reports out of Colitis are so different from the majority of other UFO encounters. A lot of the time, unidentified craft don't physically hurt people, nor do witnesses ever end up dead. So it stands to reason that there's something different about this incident. Maybe the Chupa Chupa were a new species of UFO, one that was more hostile, but luckily, hasn't returned since. After all, space is a big place, and there has to be a ton of planets with intelligent life on them. But other people say the Chupa Chupa might not have come from
Starting point is 00:44:06 a distant planet, but from closer to home. This theory suggests these lights could have been military aircraft. Maybe the Brazilian government was testing a new kind of airplane and cutting-edge weaponry. Or perhaps the United States or the Soviet Union were responsible for the attacks. After all, in 1977, the Cold War was raging. And many people believed that the world's superpowers decided to test out their new technology on the innocent people of Brazil. They might have even done it without the Brazilian government realizing it. Except all throughout the Cold War, Brazil had a complex role, veering toward Castro after the Cuban Revolution, but then becoming U.S. friendly during the two decades of military dictatorship
Starting point is 00:45:01 that began in 1964. So it's possible the U.S. or the USSR might invade their airspace. But it would be odd for the Brazilian government to cover up for a hostile nation, or for that matter, to harm its own people. Not to mention, if this kind of laser technology existed in 1977, why don't we know about it almost 50 years later in the here and now in 2025? I haven't heard of any craft that can shoot a beam of light that paralyzes people and makes them feel like their blood was being sucked out. I mean, that seems something right out of a horror movie.
Starting point is 00:45:46 To me, the evidence seems clear. Whoever's responsible for the attacks are probably not affiliated with any government here on Earth. And if you can accept that the Chupa Chupa are aliens, things get really wild from there. Because after the Brazilian officials started releasing, the Prato paperwork in 2004, they also declassified all the rest of their UFO files, as in all the evidence they've gathered about past incidents throughout Brazilian history.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Even reports from sightings in the 1950s that never made it into the news are included. Now they're available to literally anyone who requests them. I'm sure this is no surprise, but those files are not. massively popular. More people request them than any other official Brazilian report. Kolare's officials still don't know exactly where these UFOs are from or what they are doing. All they know is that the evidence is clear and undeniable. Brazil is actually the first country in the whole world to fully declassify its UFO files. But others have begun to follow suit. After their announcement, Mexico, Chile, Argentina, and even the United States announced that they're going to start declassifying and releasing some of their UFO files, but not all of them.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Who knows what will come of this UFO renaissance? Maybe once these files become public, more people will take an interest in uphology and start demanding answers. Maybe it will pressure all of the governments in the world to be transparent about what they know so far. Because there comes a point where we can no longer deny. We are not alone. To refute these accounts is to deny the people of Coladas their truth. It took a lot of courage for those villagers to even come forward, to talk about emotional and physical.
Starting point is 00:48:09 scars these unknown objects left them to bear, it left an entire generation of people with the trauma that only few of us will ever understand. But maybe their courage and willingness to confront the truth is something that we can all learn from. Because there is something in our skies. And if the world can unite to unravel this mystery, maybe it will bring us the answers we're looking for. This is So Supernatural, an audio chuck original produced by Crime House. You can connect with us on Instagram at So Supernatural Pod and visit our website at So Supernatural. So supernaturalpodcast.com.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Join Yvette and me next Friday for an all-new episode. I think Chuck would approve.

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