So True with Caleb Hearon - Brooke and Connor Are Soulmates
Episode Date: August 22, 2024It's a historic episode! The first ever TWO guest interview! Our guests today are the hilarious Brooke Averick and Connor Wood! Brooke, Connor, and Caleb talk day job nightmares, starting a c...ommune, Garfield, the possibility of Brooke and Connor ending up together one day, and much more! Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes! https://youtube.com/@sooootruepod?si=mmaMYc5jEenJxfGzJoin our Patreon for an exclusive extended interview with Brooke and Connor and other bonus content! https://patreon.com/SoTruePodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink  Follow Brooke! @ladyefron Follow Connor! @fibula   Follow the Show! @sooootruepod Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud Recorded at Bad Ladder Productions in Los Angeles, CAGo to ZocDoc.com/SoTrue to find and instantly book a top rated Doctor today! Thank you ZocDoc for sponsoring the show! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Of course I had a Tumblr.
Yeah.
I'm not going to go into that.
But I, and I did, I was obsessed.
I liked Tumblr.
I was, I was a photographer.
I was really killing it in the space.
And I think I had a thousand something, whatever the people were called.
So I joined.
My friend told me he was like-
Followers?
I have followers.
I had a-
I'm so glad you guys are here.
Thank you so much for having us.
Thanks for having us.
It's kind of good to be together, don't you think?
I do think so, but there was also a part of me that never wanted to be in a room with you
just due to how funny you are.
She said that.
I've said that.
I've said that before.
Actually verbatim.
Yeah, you've avoided me like the plague.
No, I have.
Yeah, and it's just crazy because I'm such a huge fan of both of yours that like i've been dying to be in a room with
both of you i've been in a room with you but i needed to be with both of you well i've wanted
to be with you but also not wanted to be with you just due to yeah the the funny levels that
are happening thank you yeah the raw chemistry as well and the raw chemistry too because there
has been something since you walked in here of like will they date? Won't they date?
People have been asking.
Between you and I.
And I'd like to,
I'm leaning towards yes.
But we were talking about dating
before the episode.
We were.
And what are you thinking?
It's not going.
It's not going.
It's not going.
And you're not trying?
Um.
Not enough.
Like I'm not trying
in a way that like I have any right to complain about it.
And yet, one thing about me is I will not try at dating for, like, months, and then I will just complain endlessly.
Yeah, I just complain about it and do nothing.
But I do leave the house and kind of, I try to do open body language.
Yeah.
Okay?
Not crossing my arms.
Letting everyone know.
You can feel free to approach come
up to me and no one has well there's a real fear around approaching in dating i think well i'm
doing open body language i don't know what else i'm supposed to do yeah well you could wear maybe
you could wear like a maybe you could get like a shirt made that says like feel free to hit on me
yeah that's true do you think that would be a good idea um i'd definitely be willing to try it i'm
open to anything at this point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah.
That could be the next step.
You're doing only guys.
Right now, yes.
Right.
And who knows what might happen?
Literally, who knows?
I wouldn't be surprised to go in any direction.
And Connor, what's up with you?
Are you dating?
No.
No.
No shoes over here either.
I'm always like, I'm kind of focusing on my career.
How's your career going?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm really focused on my career. How is it. How's your career going? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm really focused on my career.
How is it?
Like I'm a doctor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm actually working on some patients right now that are taking a lot of time.
Well, I've got a lot of charts to get through.
I'm like just sitting looking at the wall and I'm like, oh, I have to go to Caleb's
podcast now and no time for dating.
Yeah.
So.
Well, I have to say to hear that you two aren't dating or that it's not going well two very hot funny
like charming people it actually makes me um it makes me really really upset why i'm gonna cry
because you guys you guys are you guys should have it all you guys should literally be dating
you guys should have husbands and wives that means the world to me thank you and i feel that way
about you we always say like
we've said we haven't said it in a while but i think it's time to circle back on the cult
conversation the cult conversation i could accidentally join a cult i'm so open to that
yeah you know just have that community how did you get there because from you go you go from like
not not dating for someone you're like oh i'm I'm open to try. Or like wearing a shirt that says, hit on me.
It's only a couple steps to be like.
Mandatory sex in the cult.
Yeah, I'll join the cult.
I'm open.
Open body language.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you think what would you.
You're facing the Scientology building.
Okay.
One thing leads to another.
Okay.
What would you guys provide in like one of those like post-apocalyptic like communes?
What would your role be on the
commune you know what i'm saying like what i don't see myself being any sort of help okay
per se okay yeah yeah yeah maybe some personality a personality ad okay i just can barely take care
of myself i can't imagine taking care of a commune she's she's so she's she has you have
the like mothering gene i think that you would be not like go get pregnant at the commune but i'm
saying like i'm saying you have like the teacher gene you've got the teacher oh my god i could
teach the children you could teach your children yeah i'll teach the children things would change
also in a commune post-apocalyptic like we don't need to learn what what would you
teach them well you don't need to learn how to write a check let's say i'm teaching preschool
again okay they still need to learn like how to communicate with each other and how not to grab
things and punch each other in the face like that that i can offer them so true that is so true and
i really see that for you so true that's a skill the commune could use, teaching the kids for sure.
I'd love to teach the kids in the commune.
Connor, what are you going to be doing?
Let's just plan because we never know.
You're right.
You're right.
Can I have another second to think?
Will you tell us what you would do in the commune and I'll start noodling on it?
I would be a gay comedian.
Yes.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
I would be, I think in every universe i would be gay comedian
i would be like in the commune i'd be like i'd be like i'd be like talking in front of everyone i'd
be like oh god like i hooked up with this guy the other week and it was crazy and everyone be laughing
laughing laughing laughing yeah and i'll watch your i'll watch your kid while you're on while
you're doing oh i'm gonna have i'm gonna father a lot of children in the commune yes yeah so i'll
have a bunch of kids and then I'll be just gay comedian.
I would find a way to create content in every timeline.
I love that.
Yeah.
And I really love it.
I would like draw.
Maybe if we didn't have like internet, maybe I would like draw little pictures of myself
doing a podcast and I would like hand them out.
Like a business card.
Yeah.
I would find a way to go viral in any circumstance.
And I believe that
100 Connor what about you I think in the commune I would just be like I'd I'd finally let my hair
down I think my role would be kind of like trying new things yeah has it been up yeah because most
of the time when I check in on you you're like riding a bike in Manhattan Beach or something. No shoes. Yeah.
I think my role in the commune is like guy who is finally like letting go, you know, like every commune needs the guy that's like willing to try new things.
You can't put me in a box.
Yeah.
In the commune.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
I do think there's still an important question needs to be answered, which is,
do you think you've been buttoned up?
Do you think you've been in a box?
Maybe I would button up in the commune now that I'm thinking about it.
Maybe I would,
maybe I would clean up.
We don't need an accountant,
but what's accountant adjacent without,
without an economy?
Yeah.
There's an economy within the cult.
There would be a barter in the commune.
I don't know why I,
I thought like
post-apocalyptic there would be like a king and like you were talking about being a gay comedian
i'm like oh he's a jester but like we wouldn't go backwards in time oh my god being called a jester
um wait is that a slur that's a slur yeah is it actually yeah are you fucking joking yeah yeah okay everyone's shrugging
okay thank you finally because i was like hang on hang on we can start over
imagine no we're just like all the other slurs you've said we're gonna cut that oh perfect okay
yeah just like all the other ones you let out my heart literally just dropped into my ass
you guys think we wouldn't cut this edit edit's going to be very generous to you.
We're going to take care of you.
Thank you.
All Connor slurs are going to be edited out.
We're going to be really focused up on you.
Do you guys worry about getting canceled?
Every waking second of every day.
We finish our podcast and we go,
so I think I'm going to cut that thing that I said
about not really knowing what NATO is.
And Brooke's like, I'm going to cut that thing about what I said about, what was it?
Something horrible.
And we can't repeat it.
Yeah, obviously we're not going to get into it.
It just comes from a place of not having a finger on the pulse, unfortunately.
Or two fingers.
That's what you'd want to put two on the pulse.
You'd want to get two just to check it.
We mean no harm.
It's just like a lot of stuff for us.
We always say everyone knows our heart.
We're not like super in the loop,
I would think is a better way to put it.
And I don't think we're uneducated.
No.
No.
No.
It's not that.
I think that we're just really focusing on our career right now
do you know what i want to do when i when i die and it will come someday i will die don't say that
i'm sorry but like it'll happen i want to have um and all of you guys can write this down and
commit this to like um this is this is gospel i want to have all the moments that I've cut from this podcast
because I'm being mean
or inappropriate or whatever.
I want to have them all released
as a super cut episode
after I die.
That is awesome.
Yeah, just tarnish my legacy instantly.
Oh, that's a great idea.
Everyone I've talked shit on.
All comedians should really do that.
Yeah, it's like beautiful
because there's so many great,
I mean, Chance can tell you,
there's a lot of moments every week
that I'm like,
that's really funny,
but if we put that out, I'm toast.
I'm toast.
I'm toast.
Right.
Because if that moves forward with living outside of, oh my God, we always talk about this too.
As soon as something reaches an audience that is not yours, the corner of the internet it goes to, oh hell, they're yours.
It's dark.
When it goes a certain amount viral, you're no longer gaining fans you're
gaining you're gaining enemies yeah yeah yeah gaining enemies is a good you know that's a good
name for a podcast gaining god enemy gaining enemies we should honestly work better than
brooke and connor make a podcast that's true you guys should change the title to gaining enemies
gaining enemies i get a lot of DMs about you guys.
Really?
I get a lot of DMs.
We get comments, too.
People being like,
Brook and Connor, Brook and Connor.
They really want us to be around each other.
Positive, I hope.
What?
It was delayed?
I should have said that like 15 seconds before.
No, that was really good timing.
The delay made it work, actually.
Sorry, this Alani,
like the sugar alcohol,
the alcohol sugars in this,
whatever, whichever. Hello? It's really hitting my, my like, not getting actually. Sorry, this Alani, like, the sugar alcohol, the alcohol sugars in this, whatever, whichever.
Hello?
It's really hitting my, like, not getting fast.
Connor, you're bleeding from the nose.
What is going on?
Tell us about those DMs.
Well, they are nice. We get DMs about you, too.
People are like, you guys should be hanging out.
And I'm like, I literally want to.
We have to make it happen.
Yeah.
How did you guys meet?
How did this whole thing start?
You want to do it?
I just said so many words so fast, I'm kind of catching my breath. Do You want to do it? I just thought I just said so many words so fast.
I'm kind of catching my breath.
Do you want to do it?
Sure.
We basically both of us started posting on TikTok in 2020, kind of like peak COVID TikTok time.
And then we both started getting tagged in each other's videos like, oh, you remind me of Baba, a fibula.
No, you remind me of Lady Ephron and whatever.
And then we started communicating via the app.
And then I think you were maybe drinking one night.
And then I was like, I want to come visit you.
Me and my friend Kat, who is also on TikTok.
We were like, oh, we want to come visit you.
And he had agreed and then probably forgot that he had agreed the next day.
But we booked our flight.
Oh, where were you living?
Philadelphia.
Philly. I love Philly. Philly. So we we booked our flight oh where were you living philadelphia philly philly so we actually booked our flight and i don't think that you were anticipating that we
would so we went to visit him and actually had like the greatest time really kind of connected
spiritually and emotionally and now here we are yeah yeah so you were living in philly i was
living in philly and i don't really know where you live. I know you're from Texas.
Are you living in Texas?
From Texas.
You live out here, but you don't live in LA.
You live in, like, is it Manhattan Beach?
I live in Venice.
You live in Venice.
Yeah.
Sorry, I got it wrong.
But at the time, no, no, it's completely okay.
At the time, I was working at Bird Scooters, so I already lived in LA.
Yeah.
And then I got fired as soon as I got there, basically.
Like, as soon as I moved across the country then I got fired as soon as I got there basically like as soon as I moved
across the country I got fired so I moved down to Newport with a friend and that's where she came
to visit me which I think you thought that I thought that Newport Beach was LA I thought that
that was Los Angeles like literally like downtown LA that'll happen yeah that'll definitely happen
that'll definitely happen and then I got here like in I think we stayed in Hollywood for the
first few nights.
And I was like, what?
What is this?
What is happening?
What is happening here?
Where's the water?
What's the story of this region?
Is the water close to the Walk of Fame or not really?
That's so funny.
Did you have a job?
I was a preschool teacher.
Okay, you were actually a preschool teacher.
I was actually a preschool teacher.
Up on the wall, yeah.
And then posted so i was miserable
and then posted a video that got like maybe like 50 000 views turned in my letter of resignation
you got 50 yeah you got 50 000 views and you said y'all this has been so much fun
my i'm out of here my favorite thing too that she said because we ended up signing
we ended up getting the first our first agent was like the same person and our first agents yeah and they broke I remember Brooke being like so when
should I move to LA and they're like you actually don't have to move to LA it's
like great I just found an apartment I will we can get lunch next week I will
be there that is so funny the desire desire to move. Because when I, when my whole thing started happening, I was in Chicago.
And I did the same thing.
My team was like, you don't really actually have to move to LA.
And I was like, I will be there in one month.
I will be there.
I want to actually be in LA.
Yeah.
And why did you get fired from Bird Scooters?
What did you do?
I was, what did I do?
Well, not at my job at all.
Very clear.
Like I kind of snuck in, in interviews, especially at my job at all. I want to be very clear. I kind of snuck in.
In interviews, especially at tech companies,
if you're just kind of loud and fun,
they're like, that's a good add to the team, honestly.
He'll learn how to do it.
No, I did not learn how to do it.
I'm so lucky I got let go because half of my day there,
I was kind of applying to other jobs.
What was your title there?
I was just on the marketing team.
You were VP of sales, right?
Weren't you?
You were vice president of global sales.
Well, that's when I was interviewing at other companies on that company's time.
I was VP of sales, yes.
It was whatever position, new position I was applying to.
Because you can, in marketing, you can kind of like just lie.
Because you're just marketing yourself at that point.
And that's a great skill to have.
Yeah.
Totally.
But, no, I was not really doing a good job, I would say.
And so being let go because of COVID,
which is why I got let go, was like kind of a blessing.
They let you go because of COVID.
Because of COVID.
And I was like last one in, so I was first one out.
Perfect.
Which is awesome.
That is awesome.
It worked out.
It did.
It really did.
But I'm so lucky.
My favorite thing to do at an office job when I was in Chicago was I would, you know my
strategy, I would get hired.
I would go charm them, as you're saying.
I would go in and just be like, y'all, we're going to turn this place around.
I'm so excited to work with you guys.
I'd love to be part of the family.
I would tell them whatever they wanted to hear.
Right.
They would hire me.
And then I would spend like six weeks being like, I don't really know how email works.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would play so stupid and be like, can I actually grab lunch with you to talk about
like what it means to show up on time?
And then I would fool everyone into thinking I was trying really hard to learn.
And then as soon as they expected more of me, I'd be like, I gotta quit.
I would go get another one.
What was the job?
Oh, Annie, I had so many jobs in Chicago.
I worked at a finance firm.
I walked dogs.
I worked at a heating and air conditioning company.
Oh my God, what can't you do?
Well, what can I do?
I literally did none of those jobs.
The heating and air conditioning company was tough, particularly because they hired me,
and it was a really, I shouldn't have blown that one,
because at the time it was a good gig.
They were paying me pretty good money,
and they let me make my own schedule,
which at the time, I was auditioning and doing improv.
Wow.
This was before any internet stuff,
so I really needed time to go do stuff at the theaters and things.
And I was like, yeah, I want to work.
I was like, yeah yeah I want to work um
Mondays Tuesdays uh and Thursdays and I only want to work from uh 11 a.m to 4 p.m that's your right
yeah as yeah as we should be able to this is the greatest country on earth we should be doing that
for people and they were like well we really need someone who works full-time and I was like I can't
do that and they're like okay deal and I was like cool wow called their bluff they needed you so bad well it was also a sales position and I am like an incredible
on the phone yeah because the part of it was a mock sale and I was like I can sell a heating
and air do you remember your pitch how I sold the heating yeah I was like your house is hot
I'm in the basement yeah I mean it was just like pretty easy because you just memorize the product qualifications
and then you find out how to like cleverly talk shit on other products.
You're like, yeah, if you want to go with the other guys, like they're great.
I know some people over there.
They're lovely people.
Their units do like break down after like two years and their insurance policy isn't great.
But like, you know, if you want to spend less for like a long-term product that won't last,
that's totally a way to go about it, you know?
And then, oh my God. Whatever god i almost bought one from you i was like what was the name of the
company you want to plug it and then and then so basically though the job was to like call people
and take calls and i didn't do anything i mean i'm talking like every day i would show up fuck
around do other stuff i would like have my screen up when my boss was around me and then i would be
like writing jokes in a google doc or like doing anything other than my job yeah and like three weeks in they were like how's it
going and i was like really good like trying to get these numbers up like just hustling and they
were like so we do actually have data on how often you're in the software and we they're like we can
actually see that you're like not taking a call ever once in a day. Okay. Because there's a system where you can bypass the call and send it to your manager if it's like a high profile client or question.
And I was just every call being like, hello, what do you need?
And it would be anything at all.
And I'd be like, that's for my manager.
I would send it up.
And they actually found out pretty quick.
But I had a lot of them.
And did you guys end up parting ways?
We parted ways.
I actually ended up quitting before they could fire me because a job that I had a lot of them and did you guys end up parting ways we parted ways I actually ended up
quitting before they could fire me because a job that I had quit I had I had a job at a non-profit
working with like um school like teachers and kids and I had quit that job but the full-time role
and then um right when I was figuring out I needed to leave the heating and air conditioning company
because the jig was sort of up for me.
Sure.
They were like, Hey, we need part time help on this big event we're doing.
Will you come back?
And I was like, yes, that sounds great.
So I quit the heating air conditioning, went back and did part time work at my old company.
That's perfect.
Yeah.
I had, I don't think I've, I don't think I've told you this.
I had a, I had a job in college.
I really wanted to buy a drone.
I thought I was going to be a photographer for a long time.
Yeah.
And by a long time, I mean like three months, four months max. Of course.
We all had that.
And I was like, oh, I need a drone.
Yeah.
I need a drone.
It's a write-off.
So you can airstrike your enemies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was so I could attach my GoPro to it so I could film my aerial shots of.
Absolutely. And you had a Tumblr, yes? it so I could film my aerial shots of. Absolutely.
And you had a Tumblr, yes?
Redacted.
Of course I had a Tumblr.
Yeah.
I'm not going to go into that.
But I, and I did, I was obsessed.
I liked Tumblr.
I was a photographer.
I was really killing it in the space.
And I think I had a thousand something, whatever the people were called.
So I joined.
My friend told me.
Followers?
I have followers i had uh i had um a friend that worked at the call center at my college it's like
it is so no-brainer so easy go in walk in like hand them your resume they will hire you on the
spot it is you walk in it's the most bleak office,
like fluorescent lights.
You all face the same way,
and then there's a room with a one-way mirror that the managers sit in and watch.
What?
And they randomly clock into your calls.
And the call center is to call people that recently graduated
and then ask them for donations.
I did this job, yeah.
You wear the headset.
Yeah.
You have a binder. I'd love to see you in a headset. Oh, my gosh. It's mind-blowing. Yeah. You wear the headset. Yeah. You have a bind.
I'd love to see you in a headset.
Oh my gosh.
It's,
it's mind.
Anyone that works there,
like it gets better.
I was sitting there and they do the same thing.
They clock into your calls.
Now,
sometimes I would call people and I got the college of liberal arts.
One year out of college.
They're not going to have a job to donate money to me.
Right.
So I'm calling them and I'm saying, Hey'm at ut and we love you so much thank you for coming here can i have 50 dollars
and they're like no i spent all my money on face piercings and hair dye yeah right
and they'd be like i obviously don't have a job like you know i'm like i'm so sorry like under my breath
because i knew that like they are listening you know but they they told us you are not allowed
to take the first no you're not allowed to take the second no you have to ask you have to get
three no's before you can let them go yeah now i call some people whose parents would answer and
say they are deceased i'm like I'm so sorry to hear that.
Do you think that they were lying?
I go, I'm so sorry.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
Enjoy your day.
Boots coming from behind me.
Hello, Connor, can we speak to you in the back?
And then I got reprimanded
because I took the first no from someone whose kid died.
And then they were like,
you should have asked them for $200.
I'm like, no, no.
I'm on your boss's side.
You're not a hustler.
You gotta hustle.
I was like, I can't do this.
And there were so many people that were like,
you have to be, they cussed me out.
And I'd be like, I know.
Damn.
You guys are so right.
I know.
I made the exact amount of money for my drone.
And then I no called, no showed.
And they texted me me or they emailed me
do not use this as a reference i was like i wasn't planning on it in fact this was such a traumatic
experience for me that i'm blacking it out from my own memory i don't even remember working there
yeah who are you wow yeah i had no idea that happened to you horrible experience for me i
still can picture that building walking into it. How many shifts did you work?
Eight.
I think I worked
twice a week for one month.
Oh my gosh. And them calling my phone, I'm like,
oh no, I'm free. I felt
like I escaped
a slaughterhouse. Like if I was an animal
at a butcher
butchery.
A butchery absolute a butchery
butchery absolutely i had a there was a job i had right when i got to chicago i worked at a
um like a mark not a marketing one of my advertising firm and my friend's aunt was
like a high up vp there and she had like pulled strings to get me like a really good internship
there and it was horrible like from jump they like tracked your bathroom breaks it was like one of
those places where you had to be like every 15 minutes what were you doing what client are we
billing to and it was just horrible and the other interns were like little sociopaths who like
wanted to be like the head of the corona account someday and i was just like i can't fucking be
here dog these people are whack and this place sucks and i had to commute downtown to go to this chance you remember this is right we moved to chicago and i fucking hated that place and i
literally just like um i was like doing a i was doing a bad job on purpose because i was like i
don't want to be here i just i'm trying to get this check it was good money yeah but then my boss
was such a bitch i hated her so much like she and not i'm talking like she was right to clock that i
wasn't doing my job, but she was
extra bitchy to me about it. She would insult
my intelligence. I'm like, you know I'm smart. I was just
bad at my job.
I hated her.
Then one day I was like,
I'm going to quit today. I woke up
late and I was like, well, I'm just going to go in an hour and a half late
and then quit because I don't want to go in on time.
Totally. Why would I do that?
I texted her on the way. I was like, hey, we need to talk when I get in.
And she was like, yeah, I think HR should join.
And I was like, for sure.
Yeah, bring them.
I don't care.
And then we got in there and I was like, hey, I got another job.
I'm going to go do that instead.
I did not have a job.
And they were like, okay, so can you tell us like what happened that you wanted to leave?
And I was like, nope, just got another job.
Like I didn't want to talk about how much I hated the people.
Like, what happened that you wanted to leave?
And I was like, nope, just got another job.
Like, I didn't want to talk about how much I hated the people.
And then I got an email later on that day from my friend's aunt that was like, hey,
I heard that you abruptly quit.
Like, stuck my neck out to get you this gig.
Oh, my God. That's horrible.
And I was like, you hired an intern with, like, a really good resume.
And then it didn't work out.
I think everything's going to be fine.
But it was so – she was like, I'm really disappointed work out. I think everything's going to be fine. But it was so,
she was like,
I'm really disappointed in you.
I thought you,
it was really crazy.
Have you guys lost touch?
We were never really in touch.
We met one time
and then she recommended me for the job.
So I'm like,
ultimately,
I am sorry that I made you look bad,
but like at the end of the day,
maybe like,
maybe do two meetings.
Right.
Maybe you're bad at your job, actually.
Yeah. You should abruptly quit. I feel like I'm missing like so many life skills Maybe do two meetings. Right. Maybe you're bad at your job, actually.
You should abruptly quit.
I feel like I'm missing so many life skills because I've never had an office job.
Really?
Yeah, never.
I still dream of it one day, of having one.
No, you do not. I do.
I think at least for a little bit.
I think that would teach me so much.
You love The Office, right?
Because I can't talk on the phone.
I still can't talk on the phone. Yes, I love The Office. I think that... Do you think that would teach me so much. You love The Office, right? Because I can't talk on the phone. I still can't talk on the phone.
Yes, I love The Office.
Like, I think that as...
Do you think that romanticizes it?
Do you know what's funny?
It's like people that have not had an office job
look at The Office and they say,
I love that sense of community.
It's fun.
There's hijinks.
I love hijinks.
I see The Office and I see fluorescent lights,
a bleak, meaningless, like,
sorry for people that, you know, whatever.
You're like, I see a job that most people have, and I see aviation.
I see, okay, that's my experience.
That's my truth.
My truth is thinking of under those lights.
But, like, I get it, but you did not miss out.
No, I did.
And in fact, you probably have way more people skills than a lot of people that work in the office.
No, that's not true.
You really do.
She cannot make an appointment to save her life, honestly.
I can't.
I'm completely blind.
I can't make an eye doctor's appointment.
More than I have to go to the dentist.
Like, I am struggling.
I can't make a phone call.
You can't make appointments.
Why?
Because you're scared of the phone? I just, I can't. I there's something about the phone I've never been able to talk on the
phone really yeah I used to have to do exposure therapy when I was little with the therapist they
used to she made me call target in the office your parents sent you to exposure therapy so that you
could learn how to call target well I was in exposure therapy for a few different things
there was so many things going on this being the least of everyone's concerns.
Yeah.
Like the phone stuff we can honestly get over.
Yeah, phone stuff, just one quick session.
Yeah, I had to call Target and different stores to ask if things were in stock.
And it didn't, it was literally, it was a nightmare.
My worst nightmare.
It obviously didn't work because you still-
No, if anything, it made it worse.
Yeah.
Because guess what?
They didn't have the items
and stuff
we'll go check in the back
please don't
please don't
please don't
can I really quickly flag
is Alani a sponsor
of this podcast
no
okay I want to just flag
like I'm probably
my heart's going to give out
no no no
it's okay
I should have known
like when my
when my heart was pounding I could feel it in in my chin that I probably should have stopped.
Did you drink the whole thing?
Oh, yeah.
You drank the whole can?
No, no, no.
It's okay.
It does.
My feet are itching.
Okay.
Your feet always itch.
That's true.
No, no.
I'm okay.
You're like, do you want to sober up a little bit?
No, I just want to flag in case anyone anyone's like curious about Alani energy drinks,
they work,
but like stop
halfway through.
Yeah.
Thank you for flagging.
Thank you for flagging.
What's the,
let me see the label.
Yeah.
It looks like something
that would hurt you.
I'm shaking.
I don't drink energy drinks
for this exact reason.
Okay.
I will tell you though.
Oh, I didn't,
200 milligrams of caffeine.
Okay.
How much is a cup of coffee?
Probably like one.
No, I'm kidding. One gram. One milligram? Okay How much is a cup of coffee? Probably like one No I'm kidding One gram
One milligram
Guys
There is a Vietnamese place
Do you remember that day?
There's a Vietnamese place
Around the corner
Where we get lunch a lot
While we're at the studio
And one day I decided to have
I've had Vietnamese coffee before
But this one
They
Like God must have intervened
Like they must have
Something special happening with it
I had one
And then we came and recorded
An episode
And I was like I was vibrating in color like i was like literally
like we in virginia had one too and we literally after the episode we all were like do you guys
think we're gonna die for real like it was so intense i had no idea about vietnamese coffee
they're not fucking around the vietnamese vietnamese people i love your coffee and i
love your sandwiches thank you for bon me the coffee is really I'm worried for y'all
Damn I do want to try one
No I mean it's like Panera
Energy refreshers or whatever was killing people
What's
Okay what food would you guys want to kill you if you had to die by a food
Oh that's an awesome question
Thank you
You know what I did last night that was foul
And I would do again
I you know I got a little bit high off of a
of one of those canned drinks thank you and i had breakfast potatoes from air one and i took
a huge handful of chips and crunched the chips over the potatoes yeah which is like a little
bit incestuous i guess just because it's like potato on potato.
Beautiful, yeah.
And that was so good.
That sounds delicious.
That sounds great.
That I would let it kill me.
That's a great way to die.
Thank you.
I would add mashed potatoes to that, too.
Oh, fuck, I love mashed potatoes.
I have been recently thinking about if I choked on some food in my apartment that i live alone in
yeah that would be so embarrassing how embarrassing that would be brooke yes like i hope it kills what
are you yeah oh my gosh i always this is how far in advance i think like someone's gonna be like
i know someone who choked to death i'm like i'm just saying for me i would be humiliated if they
were like yeah he choked on a grape like alone at his house
I'm personally
as Caleb
going to take a step further
and say if your friend
died of choking to death
that's humiliating
thank you
your friend should be embarrassed
thank you for taking
the brunt of that
feedback
the most embarrassing
way to go
I mean
am I six?
like why am I
well I'm choking on food
what am I
a schnauzer?
and I know that my dog
would be like
licking my face as I'm like,
I'm not clean.
I need to teach him how to do something because-
The dog.
He just sits around, you know?
Well, they're useless.
They're cute, but they don't really do much.
He cleans up food when I drop it on the ground,
which is why I got him.
Because I hate bending down to pick stuff up.
So what was your answer?
Oh, I'm sorry.
Food that I would allow to kill me.
Probably the Alani.
Yeah, if you had to die by one.
Probably the Alani drinks, huh?
Oh my gosh.
No, I don't think I'll have another one of those.
It tastes like if I left like a popsicle out in a cup outside and it melted just into the cup
and then someone thought it was like a drink that someone was still working on and put it back in the fridge.
That sounds awesome.
And then I drank it cold. Yeah, it sounds really good. like a good sell you described a really good drink yeah well you should try one i might
yeah you're really selling it well what would i let kill me come on what would i let kill me
you should have said sushi because she eats so much sushi i do she's going to have mercury
poisoning i have to have it yeah there's literally no way. Yeah, I mean, I'd let sushi kill me.
It's not mercury.
It's the microplastics.
It's not the microplastics.
Someone told me yesterday that if you put vegetables in the microwave, it zaps the nutrients out.
Good.
Get them out of there.
Fuck them.
Get those fucking nutrients out of there.
But surely that can't be true.
I think.
You think?
I mean, it's like radioactive.
Surely it's fine. Yeah. I think whatever we need to believe to go forward i think is the important thing in life like if i need to believe that the nutrients stay in the vegetables when i microwave
them that's just i'll just run with that exactly that's what i need exactly yeah sometimes the
truth is not what's important it's what keeps you going the truth is rarely important yeah i
have always said that the truth is rarely important. Yeah. I have always said that. The truth is rarely important.
It's about how things make you feel.
Yeah.
Vibes are way more important than the truth.
Like, I really truly think if something is untrue and it's making me feel good, you do
not need to tell me.
Placebo.
I completely agree.
Like, if I'm telling a story and I'm like completely fudging the facts and someone calls
me out on it, it's like, I'm just trying to focus on how I want the story to make you
feel. The facts are not important. It's how i want the story to make you feel the fact
or not spirit of the story exactly it doesn't matter if that person actually said that it's
the fact that that person is kind of a bitch and someone who's a bitch might have said that
exactly i'm getting the vibe and that's what i'm trying to transmit yeah the facts i don't deal in
logistics i deal in essence oh my god i'm a vibes guy put that on a shirt don't you think yes with three of all three
of our faces above it i'm a vibe i'm a vibe yeah wait so what food would you let kill you oh my
god no connor's really avoiding the question in a way that's kind of like in a lasagna era garfield
ass garfield ass answer yeah you would die with lasagna? Yeah, I like foods that are not one thing.
Lasagna is pasta, but it's just in a shape.
Can I ask you a follow-up question?
Yes.
How do you feel about Mondays?
Because if you hate them, I have something to tell you.
You're an orange tabby.
Surprise.
I resonate with Garfield.
He's fucking awesome.
He's also a hater in his heart, except for the stuff he likes. He's fucking awesome. He's also like a hater in his heart.
Yeah.
Except for the stuff he likes.
He's lazy.
He's kind of fucking disgusting.
He knows what he loves.
He's passionate.
Yeah.
He's like a cool little guy who lives in someone else's house for free.
He's got kind of a nasty attitude.
I really fuck with him.
Okay.
I love that.
I wish I knew more about him.
Everything you just said, I didn't know was what Garfield stood for there's like two big things there's three big things you have
to know about garfield number one tell us tell us number one he like super fucks with lasagna
he fucking loves it like his favorite thing like if you bring a lasagna around like he will partake
okay and to say the least like he really bare minimum yeah he goes out of his way for lasagna
that's number one number two
he fucking hates mondays he literally like if you even mention monday to him he's like
honestly gonna be sick like he hates mondays like the most and really it's because he's
anti-capitalist and he like yeah weekend you took the words out of my mouth he's like an
anti-capitalist hero and so he hates mondays and then the third thing is he's just honestly like
an hall of fame chiller
like he is somebody who will like take a nap like he is somebody who will prioritize himself
like it is like for garfield it's like garfield over everybody like he is like a guy who just
like looks out for number one he could run for office like in an independent third party kind
of way almost in like a bernie sandesque way. Yeah. He would be the leader
of the commune that we find ourselves on.
And we would worship him. Honestly,
it doesn't even have to be Garfield the cat.
It's like, if somebody did run for office
third party in the United States and was like totally
normal, loved to chill, was obsessed
with lasagna and wanted to eliminate Mondays,
I think 315 electoral votes.
Completely. One million percent.
Yeah, I think Lanclide. Landslide.
Okay, so who's our Garfield?
RFK.
Unfortunately, it's RFK Jr.
He has always said he hates Mondays.
He probably does fuck with lasagna.
The woman in front of me hit that bear.
I just wanted to skim it.
Is that so wrong?
So I was at Rehoboth Beach, and do you guys, who are you guys voting for?
Because you guys are big Trump people, right?
Yes!
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let me think of something we are we are such pussies like i'm actually scared people are
gonna think that really for trump yes we are literally like so terrified no no one's gonna
think that everyone knows this show everyone knows how i. They know that I'm lying. We need to be more ourselves on our podcast.
We do.
No, we do.
We have to be pretty direct because people are like,
when they blinked weird, do you think that they were voting for Trump?
When they slow blinked at each other.
Really?
Yeah.
I feel like recently we've gotten more on edge.
Yeah, we have.
It's so interesting.
I don't know.
Because of the woke left. i don't worry about being
canceled but i don't read the comments either though mostly oh i have a disorder i try really
hard i do sometimes end up in there and it always spins me out in a way that yes yeah it totally
makes me like second guess my personhood yeah me too but yeah i try not to it's not good over there
no it's so it's so bad we kind of lucked out because we put ourselves in a category of our own we're like there's a certain percentage of our episode every
week that we talk about like poop and butts yeah and then and that's always safe yeah always safe
because we've all we all everybody all have butts have you guys been in a writer's room do you guys
write are you guys writers what do you mean when you say right i think we both would like to think
yes well in a way yes you write your stand-up when we have not been in a writer's room i think
i'll just answer that at all do you well me also me barely do you guys like desire to like make tv
and film or like what do you i ask people on this show a lot what do you want like what do you what
do you what is all this about i recently kind of came to the conclusion that I want to write a book.
I think that'd be fucking awesome.
Thanks.
What kind of book do you think?
Just like fiction, because I read so much.
Yeah?
And I'm like, okay, sometimes I'm reading and I'm like, I could do this.
You totally could.
So just do it.
So I just started kind of doing that.
You were starting to write a book?
Kind of.
You were starting to write a book?
I book.
I literally didn't get all my words out because I got so excited. And I said, you're starting to write a book? Kind of. You're starting to write a book? I book. I literally didn't get all my words out because I got so excited.
I said, you're starting to write a book?
Yeah, I book right now.
But yeah, so yes, I do kind of write.
That's what I've been doing recently.
But it's like really hard to say if it's good or not.
Well, that's not even really a necessary question to ask or answer at this stage.
A lot of things aren't good and they do really well.
That's very true.
I would like it to be good if possible.
It's good.
I'm sure it's good.
Well, it will be.
But if you're also on the first draft,
I really am, for me, writing is all about rewriting
and that's not something I came up with.
I mean, that's obviously like a thing that people say,
but it doesn't need to be good on the first try.
That's so true.
It's not important.
It'll be good on the fifth draft
or the sixth or seventh draft.
It's like the first draft should actually be bad and just thrown down and like put like it
should barely be anything the first draft doesn't need to be good that just like truly like paved
the way for a better week for me the fact that you're doing it is like the thing you're already
doing it and also the fun thing to me about like writing scripts or writing um i was just talking
to a friend about this last night who's writing her first novel and i'm like the exciting thing about writing like a novel or
something with a page count like you know a fiction novel can be any amount of pages but i think
they're probably somewhere in like what the 300 350 page range um but you just you just say okay
i'm gonna write i'm gonna write three pages a day until a really bad first version of this is done
and then that's the easy part even
though it seems like the hardest part because later on you have to worry about making it good
right but you're trying to get it done the first time right so true that's nice so true i would
love to read some of it i would love to send it to you when it's just like a little bit better
totally i believe i believe in you oh my god thank you i think that'd be really fun what is
what is it's like a fiction like is it like sci-fi fantasy?
No, it's kind of just like contemporary, I guess would be the word.
Yeah.
Just like about, about a girl.
I love.
About a girl, if you will.
Women's stories matter.
Women's stories matter.
They just do.
Women's voices matter.
I'm happy to contribute.
I'm so happy you're doing it.
Thank you so much and I can't wait to send it to you.
Connor, how far along are you?
Just hit, I just hit my 50th page,
which honestly, I never thought that that was possible.
That's amazing.
So yeah, that's like a lot of pages when you have them all together.
50 is a lot of pages.
No, 50 is definitely an amount of pages.
If I read 50 pages, I'd be like...
You know what I mean?
You'd be like, I'm kind of a genius today. I'd shut it and be like... you know what I mean you'd be like I'm kind of a genius today
like I'd shut it
and be like
you know what I mean
like I just did
I'm grounded
in a comic book
I can't imagine
writing 50 pages
50 pages is half a movie
that's a lot of pages
yeah
a movie's only 100 pages
I mean it depends
like you
90 pages
maybe like for a comedy
like a big studio comedy
would be like 90 pages
maybe 100 pages 110 pages
for like a drama but 120 I mean you don't want to get up it's a it's a page a minute so wow you
don't want it to be too much more than like 120 is a long movie that's two hours okay which are
like is the minimum for all movies now kind of well yeah because they have to be 85 million
dollars yeah exactly yeah perfect Connor how's stand-up going?
It's good.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I'm going back on tour in like two weeks.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Are you doing an hour, half hour?
I'm doing like just about an hour.
Yeah.
And I split it up into two segments, which I didn't know you're not supposed to do.
Because I was only hosting up until I went on tour.
Yeah.
And so I'm hosting, you come come out first you come out in between everybody
but I come out first
and then I bring out like three or four comedians
and then I come out at the end
I sandwich it
what's wrong with that?
it's kind of hard when I have like two shows back to back
because then I get to the second show and I get like really bad deja vu
because I've basically come out like
four times that night and I can't remember if I've told certain jokes yeah oh and it gets confusing so
I'd like to just come out twice if I do two shows twice if possible and twice if possible at this
time because um for ease because I want it to be easier well that's yeah there's no should you do
whatever you want but if that feels yeah yeah. It got so late in the first tour,
it got too late to change it
because no one told me.
So I was like, I can't change it now
because this is how the jokes are written.
Well, I thought it was great.
Thank you.
If that helps.
Thank you.
Yeah, that helps.
Yeah, it's super fun.
And then I forget, like,
no one knows how it's supposed to go.
Yeah.
Which is a beautiful thing.
Yeah.
And no one's, like, out to go yeah which is a beautiful thing yeah and no one's
like out to get me or mad at me they're just there also genuinely is no supposed to you can do
whatever you want like i'm crazy venues sometimes will think i'm weird because i like i almost
always host my own shows yeah i come out and bring up my opener and stuff no one really does that but
i'm like that's how i like yeah yeah same kind of thing by the way when i saw the last time i saw you was at the elysian i think right oh god i think so and it was so funny it was you and
rachel senate and i can't remember who else was there rachel senate and i actually that had to
be so long ago i know it's so funny damn my gosh i'm trying to think of what show that would have
been yeah the elysian i'm always doing i'm usually doing like new stuff there so i'm happy to hear
that it was funny yeah well it was it's so funny because
my
I'm now understanding like different people's style
of comedy and some people are very
material based and some people are like I have
some jokes that I'll get to but like
you're so good with the crowd and it's so casual
I'm fucking around up there
it disarms people you know it's like
oh like I can't tell if you're writing this on stage
or if you're like weaving material into your crowd work or if you're even this is crowd work at all like i don't
know i was pretty new to comedy when last time i saw you but in person but i was like oh this is
interesting there's so many styles that you can go with how many styles it's fun it's exciting i
mean i think the fun thing is figuring out your own version of it and i figured out pretty early
that i don't do open mics they just don't work for me same so when I'm doing a new material show like if I'm like a show like that I was probably doing
like I'll do like 30 percent guaranteed like old material that I know is good and then I'll do like
70 percent new jokes and usually when I'm writing new jokes I do write them on stage like I improvise
through them and then I decide if it's works for me and like sometimes it doesn't go well but I
never mind that and then it's like yeah if I find something in there that i'm like that was really exciting i should chase that and write
more of it and then sometimes i'll improvise something and be like that was not interesting
you should abandon that and then sometimes it's interesting that i'll do i'll improvise a story
and i'll hate it and i'll be like that was boring move on and then like a year later i'll be desperate
for new material and i'll be like try that thing again and it'll go great yeah and i'll be like oh
that actually there is something there it's it's. How it all like exists in the universe until you pluck it down right I
Have just recently started writing things that are relevant
Like to like current events yeah, yeah, which I'm finding is very effective yeah
Yeah, people people like when I talk about what's actually going on right
yeah no i'm i'm being so genuinely serious like yeah i kind of wanted these like almost
larry david s universal situations where it's like this always happens to everyone versus like
okay this happened in the news today like write a joke about it you know because everyone just
saw this happen and like it perks their ears and then it's pretty easy to write you know stuff that's happening right now
and no one's done it yet yeah um and i'm like so i did that last week and i was like that killed so
there was a there's a woman uh sharna halpern
who i don't care what you guys think that woman woman has a lot of good points. And she started a theater in Chicago called IO
that a lot of people know about.
But she had a rule that you weren't allowed
to get on her stage without reading the news for the day.
I love that.
She was like, don't get on stage without reading the news.
And that is a genuine, she's also,
she's an old kooky fixture in the scene.
So that's what the laughter is about.
But that's a really fucking good rule.
I agree.
That's pretty powerful.
Is she a Fox News correspondent?
Why did everybody laugh?
No, everyone has.
There's God.
What's her deal?
What's her deal?
Sharna.
I mean, Sharna, you might be listening, girl.
I love Sharna.
I mean, look, she has she's a complicated figure.
But part of the there's a lot of like acrimony around her name in the Chicago scene because
she for what, 30 years booked the SNL showcase in chicago oh wow um and she booked me so
i think she's i think she's got taste i think she's pretty cool um would never say a bad word
about it but she's also an old white woman right so she has a lot of blind spots like she definitely
has some tendencies towards like what she thinks is funny and is not funny that is steeped in being
an old white woman like that is just straight up going to be a problem
and has been a problem and i wouldn't deny that but there is this kind of like not even talking
about her anymore but just moving more broadly about the way that we think about like people with
bad ideas or people that are a little bit older that are behind the times i i just a thing that
comes up a lot in leftist organizing that i'm involved in is like people are not disposable
and just because someone has a couple bad ideas
doesn't mean that they're like a lost cause
and there's like disgusting,
like horrible figure that we need to cast out.
It's like, no, they're just like,
they have some bad ideas.
We need to work on it and we just can fix it.
Yeah.
I don't think it's that serious.
Maybe you should be the third party leader.
Well, I love lasagna and I hate Mondays.
So it really could work out.
And you're wearing orange!
You really are. I didn't want to put that out earlier but you really you really could well
all i'm saying is every ballot has a write-in option you guys and in november we have a big
choice to make no the thing is that at least one person listening is like i wasn't gonna vote but
now i would love i would love to get one right and i'd love to see i'd love to see on election night just a tiny little two votes in california do you if you get written in like are you notified
or do you just hope to see it on the tv i don't think you even see it on the t like nothing even
happens like you would have to get like 400 000 votes for it to register anywhere but i
could get her name on the ballot.
I'm saying.
With one TikTok.
That's what I'm saying.
Hey guys, I just decided
to get ready
to run for office.
You guys don't...
I get the feeling
you guys don't like politics
and don't really want
anything to do with it.
Is that correct?
What makes you say that?
The fact that you kind of
slid into your own skin
when I mentioned politics earlier.
Oh no.
When I joked that you guys might vote for Trump
and you were like, people might really, you guys are like
It's not that.
We're always sliding into our own skin.
We're obsessed with sliding.
We're sliding. I love her skin. It's soft.
It's like, one of our
main interests
Yeah, I'm just really scared
of sounding stupid.
You're not stupid. No, I know i'm not stupid but i do tend
to sound a little bit stupid we never claim to be educated when when uh politics comes up so i just
i just stay silent it's so funny that you would say that because i uh have seen you a lot on the
internet i've never once seen you sound stupid either of you you're both very smart no that is
so sweet thank you and i also it is connor and I talk about this a lot, like, just, like, being a woman in comedy.
Like, there is a standard of, like, you should know better.
Yeah.
That he doesn't necessarily get because he's just, like, a sweet boy, of course.
They don't, they definitely, they always say, like, we expected more from Brooke.
And I'm like, by the way, I said that.
She was just in the room
yeah
so I just like
kind of shut up sometimes
have you guys ever seen
and we can cut this
if you guys don't want to talk about it
because I don't know
if you've ever talked about it
but have you guys seen
the way that people ship you to
yeah
oh we can leave this in
what do you guys think of that
well we are fucking
yeah
but I'm just kidding
but is it in game it's professional we keep it very professional Well, we are fucking. Yeah. But I'm just kidding.
But is it in-game?
It's professional.
We keep it very professional and high level.
It honestly does not bother me.
And people are always like, this is so parasocial and inappropriate.
They probably see this.
I like the attention.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of course.
And it's sweet.
And it's always like these edits.
I'm like, wow, they spend a lot of time on these edits yeah that like have me and brooke like it looks like we both
passed away and these edits like it's like a filter where it's like kind of hazy and like
dream and i'm like oh i ship them too literally sometimes i watch and i'm like oh oh my god
they really would work together yeah i i love i the edits. Keep it up, you guys.
It's a great creative outlet.
And yeah, I encourage it.
Scale of one to ten, how likely do you think it is that you guys might consider it someday?
We'll get to an age if Brooke doesn't end up married with kids and vice versa, then
we'll have to sit down and have a serious conversation about it.
What age do you think?
I've been thinking a lot about what age I would just turn over to, like, a sperm donor.
If I went out of my mind.
Or, like, when do people start considering freezing their eggs?
Like, yesterday.
I know.
I need to freeze mine, too.
Honestly, like, women are starting to freeze their eggs at, like, 26, 27 now.
That's just, like...
And they're doing brand deals too yeah for the
companies are paying for it yeah i can't speak to it because i don't understand no speak on it
you don't understand you should we expected more from you but um i don't understand egg freezing
to be honest as a process like it's crazy crazy. Nor do I. I don't understand how they keep sperm. It's very futuristic to me.
How they keep sperm for so long. Should I freeze some sperm?
I have.
Really?
No.
Don't freeze your sperm.
No, you can have kids when you're 100.
That's crazy.
Do you know what actually really hurts my feelings?
And I want all the lesbians out there to listen up.
I am friends with a lot of lesbians,
which is no worries.
No worries at all. K-lesbians which is no worries no worries at all
I love y'all thank you so much
I'm for the
go ahead and bleep that chance
I love lesbians but here's the thing
I have so many lesbian friends and I have for so long
none of them have ever asked me for my semen
oh not once
not once no one's asking for my
I can see how that's disheartening
I have come you have tons ofheartening. I have cum.
You have tons of cum to spare.
I have cum to give, and no one wants it.
No one's asking for it.
I have cum.
Luckily, I have cum.
I have cum, and no one's asked for it once.
None of these lesbians.
And a couple of them have asked other gay guys that we're friends with for their cum.
I'd be pissed.
Do you know how much that hurts?
I can't even imagine what you're going through.
Me, one of the sweetest, most charming boys.
Sweetest guy in the world.
Don't worry.
When I turn 39
and I'm looking for my sperm donor,
I'm knocking on your door.
You're coming to me?
Yep.
Hey, please sir,
with a little cup.
Yep.
Please.
Oliver Twist.
Please, can I have some more?
Please sir.
Bringing a little old timey pale
for someone to come in.
Please, please help me.
Please, please.
Wait, what were we,
what was I even supposed
to be talking about?
I asked you guys what you want.
Eggs.
Eggs.
Did you guys say what you want?
You're writing a book.
Yeah.
You're doing stand-up,
but what do you want?
What is it, like,
what do you, okay, question.
I want something good to happen.
Yeah?
Yeah.
To you or everyone?
Me, I think.
I want, and both you and you.
Yeah.
Everybody in this room.
Yeah.
And those watching as well.
But not everybody.
Yeah.
And I want to work the Barnes & Noble night shift.
You would be really good at that.
I saw that on TikTok.
Are they open overnight?
They have an overnight shift where you just organize the stock.
Yeah.
I mean, every hair on my body was rising up when I was watching that organization.
Would you guys be so mad if I went pee really quick?
No.
Okay, and then came back.
Oh my God, not at all.
No, you can do that.
We're going to continue.
I'm just glad it wasn't me sharting my pants.
This is time for us to talk.
And you threw the stuff in here.
Oh my God.
Hang on.
I'm not even here.
I'm not even here.
We're not cutting any of this.
We're not cutting any of this.
So you want to organize the books overnight.
I want to organize the books overnight. Like that hash slinging slasher episode of spongebob that's me but in barnes and noble
the night shift what is up with connor because he's been like really is he okay he is definitely
off today yeah he's like i think it's i think it's something else besides the alani too
yeah yeah i think there's something else there wait iani too. Yeah? Yeah, I think there's something else there. Wait, I'm going to – okay, wait.
I have an idea.
While Connor's gone, I'm going to ask you some questions about him and then –
Okay, that's really fun.
That's really fun.
Okay, Chance, will you keep track of the answers?
What is Connor's favorite food?
He's big into lasagna.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's really big into lasagna.
He loves sushi.
Loves sushi.
He eats like a lot of disgusting looking bowls.
It literally looks like puke in a bowl.
But he eats really healthy.
Who's his favorite musician?
Tom Misch.
Tom Misch?
Yeah, I don't know who he is.
Okay.
What's his favorite clothing brand?
That's a good one um favorite clothing brand like honestly maybe made well men's made
well men's yeah um who's his favorite family member his cousin logan his cousin logan oh
this is so juicy i can't wait to see how many you get right okay um. Connor, Connor, Connor, Connor. I'm trying to think.
What's his favorite thing to do on a day off?
Like how does he relax?
He doesn't know how to relax.
He doesn't know how to relax.
Okay, that's a really good answer. Yeah, he doesn't relax.
I'm trying to think of like one or two more.
What's a good question to ask Brooke about Connor
to see if she gets it right?
Yeah, what's his good question to ask Brooke about Connor to see if she gets it right what oh yeah what's what's his what's his guilty pleasure oh I don't know if he feels guilty about anything he doesn't experience honestly his guilt
okay cool okay okay and then um will you do me a favor and would you mind stepping out so I can
ask Connor I don't mind stepping out thank you so much um what fun. Hello. We created a segment while you were gone just by happenstance.
Oh, my gosh.
Tell me about it.
Okay.
So, okay.
As soon as –
Oh.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Sorry.
Okay.
Fantastic.
Okay.
So we asked Brooks some questions about you while you were gone.
Oh, geez.
And now I'm going to ask them to you.
I asked, what's your favorite clothing brand?
My favorite clothing brand?
Yeah.
Am I supposed to have the same answers as her?
No, she answered what she thinks yours would be.
Oh, probably J. Crew.
Fuck, okay.
Did she say like Gap?
No.
Fuck, this is off to a really tough start.
Who's your favorite musician?
Like Cher or Tom Misch.
Yeah!
Wait, she got Tom Misch?
Yeah, she got Tom Misch.
She did not get Tom Misch.
She got Tom Misch.
Yes, she did.
Well, because I thought
she was going to say Cher
because we just had
this conversation
about how much I love Titanic.
Yeah.
And that song is the reason
I like Cher so much.
I don't really know
that much of her other work,
but that's enough for me.
And I love that,
and we need to say another word about that.
Tom Misch?
She got Tom Misch?
Who's your favorite relative?
Your favorite family member?
My favorite family member?
Probably my Mimi.
Okay.
Or, yeah.
Mimi.
Mimi.
Damn.
She got that wrong?
Yeah.
She said your cousin, Logan.
Oh, I forgot about Logan.
It would be Logan. She's right.? Yeah. She said your cousin, Logan. Oh, I forgot about Logan. It would be Logan.
She's right.
What's your guilty pleasure?
Oh, my God.
You guys are freaking me out.
Guilty pleasure?
Yeah.
I feel guilty about everything, and it's weird because I'm not even...
Okay.
I'm not even Catholic, so I don't know where that stems from.
I'm so confused.
How would you relax on a day off?
Probably have a couple drinks.
Have a couple drinks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What else did I ask?
Oh, what's your favorite food?
Now I'm framing it all as Brooke, even though she has such a clear mind
that she probably answered
with so much more clarity than I have to give,
and she's right.
She knows you better than you know yourself.
When you have given me her answers
about what I like,
she's been right.
I'm like, oh yeah,
that family member I forgot about.
She said you're not capable of experiencing guilt.
I feel guilty about everything.
And she knows that
Yeah
Favorite food?
Yeah
I think just pizza honestly
Damn
Is she wrong about that?
Brooke
Come back in here sweaty
Brooke
You
Hey
You did really well
But I think the issue here
I think Connor
Where there's a bit of a
There's a bit of a
A gap because maybe,
you know,
Connor better than he knows.
I know you were right.
No,
well,
I honestly didn't.
Now I'm like,
okay,
Brooke answered these questions.
There's no way I,
I've talked about Tom missed you,
but you got that right.
Yes,
you do all the time.
Yeah.
And I'm a good listener.
There was a little bit of a fall off because I said,
I feel guilty about everything. Every little interaction I have fall off because I said I feel guilty about everything.
Every little interaction I have with people I don't.
So I'm thinking about I lose sleep over stuff.
I think about things I say in the podcast with guilt.
But that's not like a guilty pleasure.
That's just anxiety.
You have untreated anxiety.
That's true.
That's true.
Oh, I call it Catholic guilt.
It is anxiety.
I think you just need to see a therapist.
Yeah.
You guys are really fun together.
I knew you were fun together, but I'm like, this is a friend who I really do stand.
That's really sweet.
I think we have a lot of breakthroughs together as if we're like talking.
It feels like therapy, actually, when we talk.
Good.
Oh, I'm glad.
But also, I would go to a professional.
I was going to say, do you feel the same way?
If possible.
About you? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. You feel going to say, do you feel the same way? If possible. About you?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, you feel that it's therapy as well, the friendship.
She texted me the other day that something I said gave her chills.
What?
What was it?
I was talking about your book.
What'd you say?
Like almost the same thing Caleb said.
Oh my God.
Then it definitely did give me chills.
He said it better than I said it, but it's like chills. No, I don't think it was. I bet we said it the same amount of good. It definitely did give me chills he said it better than I said it but no I don't think
I bet we said it
the same amount of good
he definitely did
give me chills then
I think mine was like
in far less words
it was kind of like
what you said
you have book
I think I said
kind of the same thing
yeah you start book
yeah
we have a segment
for you guys
a what
a segment
a segment
oh a segment
if you can believe it
oh
yay
okay wait
it's
wait I gotta go
to your document
thank you chance for making this document every thank you chance so you're the best you really
are the best chance um okay you guys i'm gonna read okay this is a true false segment okay i'm
gonna read you 15 statements and you're gonna tell me as quickly as you can you can quickly
confer if you want to decide the answer together you're gonna tell me as quickly as you can if you
think it's true or false and if you get 10 or more correct, I'm going to give
you 50 US dollars. What? 50 USD.
Yes. USD.
Real money. Wow. Vacuum cleaners
were invented in 19... Wait, hang on. I'm so sorry. What were the
rules of the game? True or false. 15 statements.
You just tell me if you think they're true or false. Okay.
You can collaborate. Vacuum cleaners were invented
in 1997.
I want to say false.
This feels like a trick question okay but we had fans you just
turn the fan in reverse and add a bag I think it's false really no I want to go
I want to defer to you I trust you
what do you want me to say?
It seems like a trick question.
Okay.
Do you want to say true?
I don't want to be the one to blame.
I don't either.
I don't want the blame because of my Catholic guilt.
Okay.
I'll say it.
We'll say it at the same time.
One, two, three.
What we really think.
Okay.
One, two, three.
True.
False.
It was 1901.
I told you.
Owls can rotate their heads 270 degrees.
False. No, that's true. No, they can rotate their heads 270 degrees. False.
No, that's true.
No, they can go all the way around.
It's 360 like Charlie XCX.
No, there's no way they could do 360.
They can and I've seen it.
Okay, true.
No, no, no.
I don't want to be to blame for this.
I'm so sorry.
It seems ridiculous now that I'm saying 360 out loud.
True.
I can do almost 270.
I mean false.
Wait.
This has got to be like almost. This is almost 180. That's not even 180. It's do almost 270. I mean false. Wait. This has got to be like almost.
This is almost 180.
That's not even 180.
It's not even 180.
I'm sure someone that was flexible could do 180 and 270 just right here.
No one can.
To be clear, what you mean is 90.
No one could do 180 unless they had no bones in their neck.
I'm sure like Simone Biles can do 180.
Wait.
Can I.
Wait.
Can you read the question one more time?
Owls can rotate their heads 270 degrees.
At least.
True.
Minimum.
Yes.
True.
True.
In Spain, Mr. Clean is known as Don Limpio.
As who?
Don Limpio.
Oh, Don Limpio.
Don Limpio is a historical figure in a different way.
You're kidding.
I don't know.
Don Limpio The Clean
Mr. Clean
Oh that's just Mr. Clean in Spanish
I took French
I took Spanish for seven years
So
You need to say the answer
I don't want to I can't
I feel like here's the thing
That's why I graduated in five years instead of four
There's been two trues I feel like they want us to think that a false would be coming but it's probably
another okay ready yeah three two one true it's true william mckinley was on the 500 bill
god damn it i cannot believe how long you guys are taking it's so funny you guys are so
contemplative what's his name
william mckinley was on the 500 bill i only know who he is because that's the high school in glee
i'm gonna start assigning them to one of you brooke this is yours what do you think yeah i think he
uh he was not it was it's true uh connor the rolling stones formed before the invention of
the lava lamp it's true that's true kam Kamala Harris has a degree in musical theater.
Brooke?
False.
It is false.
Connor, Melissa Gilliam is the current president of Boston University.
Where did Brooke went?
Well.
I don't know.
Oh, my God.
That's false.
That's true.
Brooke, the University of Texas at Austin has only one mascot true false bevo and hook them sorry i didn't know about hang on bevo is the longhorn
hook them is the saying
what okay brooke that is not your fault well connor craft mac and cheese is vegan What?
Okay, Brooke, that is not your fault.
Well, Connor, Kraft Mac and Cheese is vegan.
False.
False.
Brooke, there are 30 seasons of the Power Rangers TV show.
True.
True.
Connor, Hinge was originally an app for hiring carpenters.
True.
False.
Jesus. Brooke, Quentin Tarantino played an Elvis impersonator on Golden Girls.
True.
True. Connor, sea otters hold hands when they sleep so they don't drift apart. True. True. False. Jesus. Brooke, Quentin Tarantino played an Elvis impersonator on Golden Girls. True. True.
Connor, sea otters hold hands when they sleep so they don't drift apart.
True.
True.
Brooke, guinea pigs have 14 toes.
False.
True.
Connor, Steve Carell's father was a billionaire oil tycoon.
False.
False.
How'd they do?
Nine.
Oh, you guys were so close.
Honestly, honestly, those were good questions.
Yeah, we did better than I thought we would.
The UT Austin one was particularly insidious, I will say.
That was crazy.
Good work.
Like, I didn't even kind of, I've never even heard that.
But I had friends that were the guys that brought the,
I almost said the dog.
See, like I shouldn't have.
They brought the dog out during the games.
They brought the cow out, the longhorn out during the games.
I knew all the hook'ems.
Damn.
Damn.
Still hook'em though, y'all.
For real.
Still hook'em.
Seriously.
Please, please hook'em.
For L.
Not four years.
Four L's.
Five years.
Five years.
Not four years.
For that degree.
For that degree.
Were you guys in fraternity sorority?
Mm-mm.
I was for a second
and then I dropped very quickly.
Really?
I feel like BU didn't really have Greek life, but I was going to rush and then fell asleep
for the first rush event, and I was like, you know what?
If this is any indicator of how things are going to go, let's just toss it.
Yeah, let's just get it out of here.
It wasn't meant to be.
What is so true to both of you?
Brooke has a good one.
I have a good one that I've crowdsourced this before,
and it's gotten pretty negative feedback.
Okay.
Okay?
Okay, good.
But I'm curious about your take.
It can't hurt to double check.
I think that the Alvin and the Chipmunks versions of any song
are better than the original.
Whoa.
Yeah.
That's a bold take.
There's something about like the high pitch
that feels really good to my body.
Do you think just to existing songs that they've covered
or do you think it could apply to any?
I think it could apply to any song.
Wow.
That is crazy.
Do you know what came to my mind immediately?
What?
Hurt by Johnny Cash.
Really?
Alvin and the Chipmunks version.
It would be good.
It would be incredible.
I think it could be incredible yeah
i'm telling you there is not one song that those three chipmunks couldn't cover beautifully what
do you think they've done most beautifully so far i really love their rendition of bad day
yeah remember that song yeah they had a bad day i think they did that beautifully they did they
really killed it also i don't want the chipettes to go unnoticed either because they do a great job as well.
And they're girls.
Yeah, and they're girls too, so it's important to uplift those voices.
Girls can do it.
No, they can't.
Girls can do anything.
Anything.
I've always said that.
Yeah.
And I mean it.
I do too.
I genuinely do mean it.
But they also don't have to if they don't want to.
Girls can do anything but should do nothing.
Awesome. If they don't want to. Girls can do anything but should do nothing. Awesome.
If they want.
Well said.
I've always said two things are true.
Girls can do anything.
And I'm just a girl.
And I'm just a girl.
And I'm just a girl.
I'm just a girl in the world.
That's a statement with a lot of volume.
Two truths are existing in the same space.
And when you just swap out boy,
it's not so much fun.
No, it doesn't have the same.
Boys can do anything
really bring something evil to mind.
Oh my God, you're right.
It doesn't feel good.
It's like, no, they can't.
Because when boys have put
their mind to stuff,
it's gotten really scary really quick.
Like Lord of the Flies.
Yeah.
Oh my God,
the way I always bring up
Lord of the Flies on our podcast.
Yeah, that's like,
I've never read that one.
She hasn't,
and she's a reader. I think you would really like it. i think you would really like it i think you would really like it it's basically
just the way that boys will be if you let them hang out too long boys yeah boys will be boys
experiment like that and the girls formed like a very self-governing community and the boys
made a huge mess and fought each other. Lord of the Flies.
I don't even want to tell you the ending because it's a really good book.
Yeah.
Okay, I'll add it to my Goodreads.
You should.
You should.
You should.
What's so true to you, Connor?
I don't think having one pimple is kind of great.
I think it's something to look forward to.
It's a small project during the day that you could go home.
I look forward when I have a pimple.
I have something to work on when I get home.
I love that. I think that when I have a pimple. I have something to work on when I get home. I love that.
I think that's a beautiful, so true.
And that's also one of the most
unemployed guy things I've ever...
I know.
You're like, it's nice to have something
to think about during the day.
And I relate to that.
I also get excited.
I'm sorry.
Okay, it's nice to have something
to think about as, yeah, that.
And then also like something
to take your mind off of other things.
It's like, well, now I got to sit down.
I'm going to unwind and I'm'm gonna get at this blackhead yeah I
got a really good after it would you rather a blackhead or a whitehead hard
to say it's all situational because the whitehead can be good if you get a
couple pops out of it a blackhead you gotta call in the special forces we have
you know you don't want to you don't want to make it something that it isn't
mm-hmm it's hat, after all.
But I like to get more than one squeeze out of those.
Out of the black hats.
Totally.
What is the difference?
I don't know.
A black hat is, like, hard.
Oh.
It's inward, I would say.
Oh, yeah.
It's, like, yes, that convex.
My sister has one on her back that I'm sure she's so excited that I'm talking about on this podcast.
And, like, it's definitely, like, become a medical situation. one on her back that i'm sure she's so excited that i'm talking about on this podcast and like
it's definitely like become a medical situation it's not like bigger but like it is there every
time i see my sister and i look forward to seeing my sister and her blackhead do you pop it yes i
get after it two of your family members have taken big l's on the pod today your sister with the
revelation of her back pimple and obviously your cousin logan did you say she wasn't your favorite i forgot about her and i said mimi oh shoot mimi would have been good too um logan is though yeah she's definitely
in the running yeah logan shout out baby we love you and mimi also sick as fuck like she's great
sick as fuck love me down yeah but cousin logan really did get a knife in the back that is tough
that's tough and you know she'll be pissed too. She's an avid truther.
She's on here.
She's watching.
She is.
She's listening.
She is.
She knows the pod.
She's very online.
She texts me stuff that I don't know about that's happening online.
That's huge.
You need that person.
It's helpful.
Well, thank you guys so much for being on.
Do you want to tell people where they can find you?
I'm going to thank you so much for having us.
I literally love both of you.
Literally.
Literally love you.
Literally love you.
Thank you.
You tell them.
I'm Fibula on all platforms uh connor wood otherwise if you want to come see me on tour in the fall and tell them about your podcast too
yes oh my god i have a podcast with brooke here lady efron and uh it's called brooke and connor make a podcast and it's everywhere as well
well said and i'm just brooke avaric on instagram and um lady efron on tiktok
and your guys's podcast is really really good and successful people should really get over there
thank you so much thank you and it's beautifully done as well every time i see it i feel like i
was so warm i feel like i want to be in there with you oh my god that means the world we would
love to get you in there.
I'm like, bring me on.
If possible at all. You kind of want to live on that set.
It's really cozy. It is. That was what we
were going for. It was like a cozy.
The thing we lined on on the weekend, sorry, we can wrap,
was those YouTube videos that are
definitely made out of AI where it's like
eight hours of smooth jazz inside of
a copy shop slash library
while it's raining outside.
So that's how we landed on it. We should get a rain sound machine. of smooth jazz inside of a coffee shop slash library while it's raining outside. Yeah.
So that's how we landed on it.
You should get a rain sound machine.
I think it might be distracting
on an audio only podcast.
It might fuck up.
But it would be cool for the video.
It would.
I think it would be really gorgeous.
It would.
I love it.
Thank you guys for being on.
Thank you so much.
We love you.
Iconic guests.
Love you.
Thanks for having us.