So True with Caleb Hearon - Carly Kane Returns

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

Howdy! This week we welcome back to the show the hilarious Carly Kane! Carly and Caleb talk the importance of Applebees, tattoo woes, working as an assistant, ghosts, and much more! Join our Substack for an exclusive post-episode chat with Carly and other bonus content!  https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ Follow Carly! @icarlykaneFollow the show! @sooootruepod Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloudAbout Headgum: Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. » SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1  » FOLLOW us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/headgum  » FOLLOW us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/headgum/ » FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. That reminds me I got a tattoo last weekend and it was the most painful. It was like one of the most painful tattoos I've ever gone. I'm crying. Where'd you get it? Hartford, Connecticut. Sorry, on your body. So what's your problem, Carly?

Am I problem with you or in general? Let's start in general and then work our way. to me? In general, my problem is with this heat and e-bikes right now. You e-bikes here? Yeah. They're not going in the docks. We talked about it.

They're slowing down. They're slower and they won't go in the docks. And I've been having three times I've DM'd like with the guy on there. Have you had to do that? What? Yeah. You're DMing with city bike? I'm jamming with city bike.

I'm on there. Hey, my bike isn't docking. And they're like, okay, give us a second. And then you're waiting for about 10 minutes. And they go, we're so sorry. You can leave the bike where it is. What? Yeah.

I've never DM'd them. You can't, well, it's like on, through the app. I'm not like on Instagram. Oh, well, either way. I didn't even know you could talk to someone on there. I have so little faith in customer service now in general. Everything's gotten worse. Nobody's good at customer service.

No one cares that I just don't even try anymore. When a service that I'm using goes wrong, I just go, I'm fucked. Have you ever worked in customer service? Yes. And I deeply cared and it was horrible. Me too. I call so nice with a legitimate. problem when I tell you Verizon

Verizon is going to hell Verizon is going to hell you call these people and they go yeah I don't know we might be able to send them out in four days but we're the only service provider in the area so kind of stick it up your ass and deal with it they don't care everything's gotten so much worse no they're just hanging up

they're just hanging up out of nowhere we fix your cushion it's bothering me it's like all the way off the couch oh yeah should I take it off no just like push it back it just was bothering me because it's hanging all the way off I worry about it are you comfortable I'm worried about me falling yeah yeah I'm comfortable I'm worried about you falling.

Well, I used to do customer service, and I would literally, like, I'd be giving therapy. People would be crying, and I'd be listening. I'm saying when I did customer service, I really cared. What did you do customer service for? I did, well, I worked in a restaurant for years, which was different than customer service. I did the, at my college, I did, what's it called when they, like, foundation. I did, like, donations and requests, and I fielded calls. And then I worked, well, I guess not, and then, before that, I worked, I had reception at a senator's office.

What senator, Caleb? Claire McCaskill. Shout out, Claire. I worked, I interned. I was on the phones. So you were the one calling. You were out. Outgoing calls?

No, incoming. Incoming. Which, I don't know if you can imagine the incoming calls at a Democratic Senator's office in Missouri, but let me just tell you, I didn't get paid anything, and I deserved a million dollars.

And the craziest thing is, people would call and they'd be like, that dumb bitch, and I'd be like, okay, we're not going to do that. Is there something I can help you with? and they'd be like that my social security checks aren't coming and I'd be like okay we can actually help you with that can you give me and then I'd ask for the information and then I'd

give it to the senator or I'd give it to my boss who would give it to the senator and then she would make some phone calls make something happen and then I would call and follow up and be like hey did your social security checks start coming and they'd be like yeah but I'm still not voting for that bitch you know and I'd be like Jesus Christ this system is not working mine was for a literal pharma company yeah so same same yeah senator pharma company at this point what's the difference absolutely i don't be people calling like looking for their medication so as you can imagine i was screaming crying yeah you know what i mean and then i would help them get their medication for cheaper it's same thing yeah i call them back and

be like so the medication are working and it's like you only gave me 50% off i want 75 and my daughter wants it too yeah like it was like well it's like i don't think she's prescribed that yeah yeah they're prescribed my daughter the medicine it's like we don't we're not a doctor she's six she doesn't have high cholesterol you know yeah yeah that's really beautiful Do you have any, like, fun stories from your customer service? Any good stories? Was anyone really nice to you or no, not really? Some people were really nice, you know, a couple people prayed for me.

I think most of my crazy stories were from working in a restaurant. Of course. I was thinking about this the other day. Like, I was so, I remember I had the table of two guys. And you know, it was like a woman when two guys are gay, you're flirting. You know what I mean? You're really like, I thought these guys, they were two, like, gay guys. Sorry.

Sorry. You flirt with other gig guys? Don't even give me this, Caleb, because the minute I try to flirt with you, you're like, boundary, you're like, don't touch me. I'm like, tickle, tickle, and you're like, if you ever do that again, we're going to have issues. You touch a lot.

And you do it when I'm vulnerable. No, I have pulled back a lot. You do unwanted touch to me when I'm vulnerable. Wait, can I tell the story what happened to the coffee shop? You like get me high and then you're like touching my inner thigh and I'm like, Carly. That's absolutely untrue. The only kind of vulnerable touch I give, can I say what happened in the coffee shop

when you were being vulnerable? Yeah. So we're in a coffee shop and I'm checking in with Caleb. I remember this. We might have to cut this. Well, let's say it.

And Caleb's being vulnerable, which it's sometimes like hard to get you to do that. And you're just like, I'm like, how are you doing? And you're like, honestly, like I just haven't gotten any rest.

Like, you know, I'm grateful for everything I'm working on but I'm starting to feel like a shelf myself and I kind of like grab out and touch your hand. And then a guy comes over and he's like, I'm a huge fan. Oh my God.

Wait, where was that? I remember this now. That coffee shop that, like, doesn't have coffee. Wait, wait, where was this? I remember this. I was like. Right by your apartment. I don't want to talk to you.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand, yeah. Oh, yes. No, it really was a very funny moment because you were like, I was being uncharacteristically, like, raw. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're like, how are you? And I was like, honestly, like, I feel sometimes, like,

more of an idea than a person lately, and I'm really grateful for everything. But, like, I just, I'm having a hard time balancing it all. And truly, I'm in the middle of that. and the guy comes over and he's he's like he's like i fucking love your stuff i was something out of a movie and i was like i was like thanks man and then i turned back to carly and i was like well and that was i feel insane for saying that because he probably heard me say that and still chose to step over well he still chose to step over and it was like i was holding your like a light like just like a two-finger touch yeah you were doing it you know what i

mean so it's like clear yeah right no it's just it's not that it's more when you like get me vulnerable you'll like drug me up you'll be like you'll be like you'll be like let's smoke Jay and then we'll smoke and you'll be like touching. No, it's not. It's more like emotional touching. I'm like, what are your like dreams and do you believe in God? I don't know what emotion is conjured by like rubbing my inner thigh. There's no rubbing of your inner thigh.

I think it's because I'm touching parts of your brain. And I'm reaching out for parts of your brain. I'm saying, hey, tell me about your childhood. And you take that as an inner thigh touch. No, I think it's more like, you're like, are you high yet? And I go, yeah, and you go, nice. no and I go Carly well but then you'll come in with a surprise touch yeah well I try to give you what you want you'll kind of come in with like a behind hug a behind hug and lift yeah and it's like

I'm a woman on the street you know well all my girls are really touch starved and insane I have a type I have a type my type is lesbians that are touch starved feral and insane and so sometimes it's hard because I'll be like I'll be like hey babe and I'll give like a kiss on the forehead and they'll be like, huh. Fuck, sorry, it's just been so long. And I'm like, oh, my God, you know. I just, I couldn't possibly imagine

that that was going to happen, you know? So you feel like you're just getting enough touch in your life that. Yeah. Yeah, I can't fully relate. Yeah, I understand. Yeah, you know what I'm having you're a lot of fun with during this episode already?

What? Is I have no shoes on for maybe the first time ever at a podcast. podcast, and I'm clutching the mic cord in my toes. That was actually, that reminds me, I got a tattoo last weekend, and it was the most painful, it was like one of the most painful tattoos I've ever gone. Where? I'm crying.

Where'd you get it? Hartford, Connecticut. Sorry, on your body. No, so I'm actually wondering about the pain and where it's out on your body. Yeah, yeah, my shin. Oh, really? Stick and poke. Oh.

And shoeless. I mean. And so my feet are like in their face. Oh, I remember the tattoo now. You showed it to me. Yeah. Yeah. And my feet are like in their face, which already feels bad. You know what I mean? But then at one point they're laughing. They're cracking up. And I'm, I'm crying because I'm in so much pain. I'm trying to hide it. And I'm like, what's going on? And they're like, look at your right foot. And my foot that wasn't being tattooed, I had clawed up all of the plastic on the thing. All of it. And they were like, are you okay? Like, do you want to take a walk? I was like. Yeah. I, it looked. When I saw it, it looked like it might have been. painful, because when you told me what tattoo you were going to get, I didn't know if you'd get it filled in or not, but a swastika doesn't really look right when it's not completely filled in with ink, so I think you made the right call. You make me sick.

Come on, the idea of you I'm sorry, but the idea of a swastika shin tattoo is pretty funny. Well, let's talk about it. What? No, not me.

Pardon? I had a friend in college. You know how there's a Buddhist symbol that is the same? Yeah, fuck. The same as the swastika. You know, and a lot of girls in college that are doing a lot of acid and at EDM festivals. Yeah. They don't really know a lot about history.

You know what I mean? And they love ripping off from other cultures. So this bitch literally got like a swastika tattoo and we had to be like, hey, Rachel. Where did she get it? In her arm. Come on, man. Come on, man. You're like, hey, Rachel, you're also Catholic.

You're not even Buddhist at all. Funny. That is really funny. That's like the number of people that get like, they just get like any Mandarin tattooed on their body. And they have no clue. They have no clue what it means. They've never been over there. They don't really know.

I know. And they like, it means love. I'm like, I will have to take your word for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it definitely doesn't. Yeah. Would you, what language would you, do you don't speak another language? Right?

No. What would you pick if you could just instantly know one? Spanish. Really? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think that's a silly one to pick because... What would you pick?

Oh, because it's not that hard to learn. Because it's like you could probably... It's so close to ours that with enough work. Well, I say that, but I was in Spanish class for a long time and I couldn't retain it to save my life. That's a thing. I'm not good with language. What language did you pick? Mandarin.

Because I think it would be really hard to learn. And it would be really... I think it's really... Do you know those videos where it's like white boy stuns with Mandarin at Chinese restaurant? Yeah. I'd love to star in one of those. But I do fear you. And the Chinese people with the restaurant are like, what the fuck?

I know, but I do some, I do kind of fear you'd still give, like, white dad at a restaurant vibe. For sure, I would. Like, your accent wouldn't be right. For sure, it wouldn't. But, no, but it would in this world. Because when a white guy tries to stun with Spanish at a Mexican restaurant, they're like, it just never feels right. It's like, it's always giving, like, Brad Pitt in Inorious Bastards. You know, but that's how, you know.

But when a white guy stuns with Chinese restaurants. at the Chinese restaurant. Those videos really speak to me. Well, I think we can make this happen for you. What's going to happen? What we're going to do? Yeah. We're going to get you hit by a FedEx truck because, one, they pay out $2 million.

Hold on. Here, hear me out. Before you go on, because I am allowed to have questions on my show. What do you mean the FedEx truck pays out $2 million? This feels like, do you remember in college when someone was like, if your roommate themselves in the dorm, you get free tuition? And then people were being like, I kind of hope my money. Rememate themselves.

You know, like, this feels like one of those things that everyone just decided is true. A guy on Rockaway Beach told me. Right. So you can understand where I'm coming from. Well, he was severely injured, and he was like, my next move is I'm going to get hit by a FedEx truck because I've done a lot of research. My next move. Y'all, watch this space. As soon as I find a FedEx truck, who's driving while texting, we're going to fucking make it happen.

Well, we're going to do that. And then what happens is a lot of times when people get in these accidents, but they survive, they wake up. They can speak another language. I forget what it's called. Haven't you heard of this? I have heard this. It feels like something you wouldn't believe in, even though there's, like, scientific proof.

I do. What you're not going to do is what you just tried to do. What you're not going to do is what you just tried to do, because you are a member of the cohort of lesbians in my life who often try to, when I tell you, I'm just going to talk about this and we can cut it if you want. Carly's been bent out of shape for months because another one of our psychotic lesbian friends came to her house and said, I feel a ghost in this house and I think it's your grandpa, okay?

Carly believes that and is truly being like, yeah, sorry, I couldn't sleep last night like grandpa was wrestling in the space. Grandpa is wrestling in the space, Caleb. And then, so note the earnestness. And then I get in trouble for being like, that's bad shit and stupid.

Well, no, well, you gave in a little bit because what happened was... No, I didn't, by the way. Well, no, you made a funny joke that made me think, oh, maybe we're on the right track because there is a ghost in my apartment and maybe I'm wrong. God forbid.

Things are turning on in this room, in this little weird room, this haunted room, the back space I sometimes I step back there I start to cry my cat stares into it and you have depression and you live in an old building like it's just not the lights flickering and you crying is not a ghost you need to stay on your meds and you need to move into a nicer place I'm sorry that's just the reality of the situation well you're not going to like this but there were markings on the wall what yes what do you mean marking I haven't really talked about it

yet because that's mold you have black mold depression And I will say, I will just say, here's the thing. Things start getting a little creepy back there right after I go through some kind of breakup. And you said, maybe this ghost is trying to fuck you, which, if it is my grandpa, there's a lot to unpack. There's obviously such a complicated situation if your grandpa has a ghost just trying to fuck you. I don't think Poppy is. Poppy was a really good guy. Okay. Well, he's different now. I mean, he's not, he's a ghost now. Who knows if your values change?

Maybe they know something we don't know. Well, apparently he has a message. Wait, Carly, I have something really sad to bring up. What? What if the only way he can move on is if he fucked you? To the afterlife? What if poppy's a really good guy, but he can't leave purgatory until he fucks his granddaughter? Isn't that sad?

I don't want that to be the truth either. I would hate that universe, but golly. Well, it kind of feels like one of those things of like, can you have sex in front of your pet? Like, can you really fuck a ghost? Like, you know what I mean? What kind of are the morals of that? I don't want to fuck my grandpa ghost, but it's like,

what even does sex with a ghost look like? It might just be him passing through me. Which I frankly have felt. What? I felt the chill down the spine. See, this is the kind of shit. I try so hard.

I'm like, I don't want to be negative towards you. In the comments, in the comments. In the comments. I love you so much, but sometimes you say things like this and it's like very hard for me.

I want to obviously, I always support you. And I love you so much. But then you're like, I felt my grandpa passed through me. I'm like, come on. I mean,

I could be wrong. I'm not like, I'm, I'm up for nuance. I'm always down to be wrong. And there's a little part of me that's like, I think, I think we've lost a lot of spiritualism and we live in this materialistic world and it's like, let's bring it back. Yeah. You're not going to sell me on me being materialistic because I don't believe that your grandpa's haunting your spare room.

I don't think that's me like loving the iPhone. I think I just don't feel that. Well, okay, even if it's not my grandpa, it's like people are seeing. things every day yeah shit is you know what i mean yeah stuff is weird yeah totally i'm so sorry i understand have you ever i feel like you like to me you give like you saw a ghost when you were eight and you've shut it out so completely and it's something you've never talked about i think i'm an adult who lives in the real world and i i i don't look maybe goes surreal i don't know i guess it's possible i just don't ever no one's story has ever compelled me everyone's story is like you know they were they were

workwear from the 18th century and they passed me in the hall at my college dorm and I'm like I don't know I just feel like it was dark and you were a little scared I know I do think it's interesting that like ghost sightings always seem to be like children or women from like a colonial period you know like I don't really know what that means it's always dated yeah it's never like it's never like a fun gay guy I would be really compelled actually if what I found out about ghosts is that they can't move on until they fuck someone they should you know it's like you have to fuck that person you how to will they won't they with at your job or you can't move on. That would be really compelling about ghosts.

Otherwise, I'm just like, yeah, I don't like, also it's a sad thing to believe in. People think it's cool, but they're like, yeah, there's a, the ghost of a child in this house because it used to be a paper mill and he died working on the paper. It's like, that sucks. No, it does suck. I don't think it's, like, fun. I hate that he's here. I'm not, like, obsessed with it. I feel like people are going to be mean to me in the comments because I don't believe in ghosts, but it's my true.

Like, you also have a schizophrenic girl on your podcast. You're not schizophrenic. And I can just say that because it runs in my family. Yeah, you're not schizophrenic. You're not schizophrenic. You have other stuff. Do you think you're schizophrenic? No, no, no, I don't.

Nice. But my family is there. One of my biggest fears is that I will lose my sanity. Do you know? 100%. That I will like lose my sound mind. Totally like a psychosis moment. Yeah, that I'll like snap.

And not snap like I hurt people, but snap like I'm just like never the same You are one of the few people. Uh-oh. No, no, no, no. It's kind of a compliment. You were one of the few people. Kind of. Let's be sure before we say it. You're one of the few people, like, in my life that, like, if you did have psychosis,

you'd be like, and that's enough of that. Like, you could snap yourself out of psychosis. You think? Yeah. 100%. That's really beautiful, Carly. I think you were saying that. You would 100% be like, you know what I mean? Like, you would look in the mirror and be like, we're done with this.

Yeah. That's nice. Thank you. That's really nice. I'd like to believe. that you want to talk about your breakup or not really? Wait, our friend Maddie was over at my apartment the other night and we had smoked

weed and I got us Beningeries and we had smoked to me and we were like eating a little bit of ice cream and I was a kind of high that I was feeling like more blunt than usual which is pretty obviously blunt and I was trying to come up with something to talk about because I didn't, we were just like kind of sitting and watching TV and I go so I was not trying to be funny. I genuinely, this is what my brain came up with. I go,

so you're single and you're unemployed. That's like what my brain told me to say out loud to have a conversation. And she was also high and she goes, wait,

what? No, that's diabolical. It was awesome. Was it a good conversation? Yeah, it was really powerful. Yeah.

More people should say things like that out loud. Well, we do need to fly a kite. I think. that'll we have been talking about flying kites i do think that will like freeze something for both of us i think if you and i actually we should make time to go to prospect park soon and fly a kite i i will chance will you buy me a kite

i want like a really big extra one yeah i want like i want like i want it to be like i want people to see us in the park and go like where the fuck did they get that kite yeah yeah should we put like advertisements on it or something like a blimp at the beach i don't need this to be business personally but if you would like it to me i'm also single and unemployed you know yeah shout out I'm hiring an assistant do you want to be my assistant

sure I think that's a really bad idea right I think so too I thought about hiring Anna our good friend Anna but I'm like I think that would destroy both of us I think it's like difficult

with friends like I think I I would be good at it yeah oh you'd kill it but I think that you wouldn't like what if I was your assistant I'd want more physical touch

that's 100% not going to happen that's an inappropriate thing to ask your boss exactly I don't think it would work I think we wouldn't have good boundaries I'm what's your biggest concern with me being your assistant be honest I can handle it

genuinely that it would affect our friendship yeah yeah other than that probably you saying that we would be bad at boundaries when I'm really good at them you sort of still not understanding that the boundary issue here is kind of on your side of the court.

Yeah, and that's, yeah, 100%. Then I'm, like, actually chilling on the boundaries. I actually say, like, hey, if you're going to get chills when we touch, I'm going to, I'm going to put a moratorium on that. No, I love our friendship. I think it's beautiful. I wouldn't change it. No, I love our friendship, too.

For real. No, I feel the same. Straight up. And then other than that, my, you being my assistant, well, what would be your biggest concern about me being your assistant? Like, if roles were reversed and you were going to hire me to be your assistant, what would be your biggest concern? wouldn't have enough for you to do.

Is it my whole attitude? No, no, I wouldn't have enough for you to do. You'd be working two hours a week. But you'd pay me full time? No. I'd pay you in like, like it would be sort of a barter trade system. I wouldn't. That's not right.

That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't be able to pay you. Be more like, hey, like, let me give you a foot massage or like, I'll roll you a joint. If you can work on my calendar. I'd love for you to roll me a joint. Okay, let's, okay, hold on. Can we exist in a world where you do have enough money to pay me properly? What do you think would be my biggest downfall as an assistant?

And I was an assistant at one point. Keep in mind. I think your biggest downfall as an assistant is like you would almost be too good at it that you would just be like, you wouldn't be having it. You'd just be like, I'm not. You also don't like lines. You don't like a line. No, the lines really make me angry.

So you're not going to, you would go. I'd be like, can you get me a coffee? And you'd be like, you'd come back and you'd be like, it's not happening today. There was a line. It was too long. I wonder if I have the phone number of it. You know, I was an assistant in Chicago. I didn't know that.

Oh, yeah, I worked as an administrative assistant for years. Oh, was that when you were at the office and you were in the front desk? Yes, I worked that one. And you were the office manager. I wonder if I could get a hold of someone from my old job right now to say what the worst thing about me as an assistant was. I think you could. Wait, what was wrong at your restaurant job?

Why were you hated? I was just drunk all the time and I'd eat all the food. I'd like, I'd empty a plate. and it would have, you know, people would not eat their fries, and I'd empty them into my server thing, and I'd go to the bathroom, and I'd eat them. Yeah. And it became, like, such a problem.

They had to be like, hey. And then I got one of the bussers. He would get me free food from the kitchen as long as he could watch me eat it. I'm sorry. What? I was eating a lot, and he was watching. That's really.

I mean, it's exactly what it's. sounds like he'd be like here's some chili kiles and i'm just gonna not blank and watch you eat this and i said i that's fine with me i'm hungry so he would get you chilequilis only so he could watch you eat it he said i'll get it free for free i just want to watch you eat this that's kind of oh wait i remember to have one of their phone numbers i want to come back to that by the way i'm sorry i did get really sidetracked on i think this will be really interesting i wonder if she'll answer Hello? Hey, Jenny, it's Caleb Heron.

How you doing? Hi, Caleb, what's up? Hey, I'm on a podcast right now, and I'll text you later to make sure you're okay with this. But I wanted to ask you, we were, I'm on this podcast with my friend, and we were talking about when I was an assistant and how bad I was at the job.

how what do you think was the like obviously i was bad at being an assistant but like how bad was i and what do you think the worst part was oh my gosh i'm so glad you just called me and asked me because i just found um you know how we would send letters to people we were going to do interviews with we had to send them an email that you know to the client we'd send an email and we'd give them like a script of what we were going to be talking to their staff about yeah i found a letter that you had written and sent to me to proof it before you sent it off. And it was literally redlined from top to bottom, except for, it said, respectfully, Caleb Huron. And that was just looking at all right.

That is not redlined. That is so funny. I was so bad at that job. I wish I could call it. You're the, you're the, go ahead. Oh, what is you think? I actually did. I sent that to a colleague of mine who loves your podcast.

Wait, Ginny. Ginny, you're sending out my bad work to people that are fans of mine? I said, don't you ever send this to someone if I see this on a TikTok and I get sued and Caleb never talks to me again. That is so funny. Well, you're one of the nicer people that I worked with. I wish I had like somebody who really didn't like me's number because that would have been really interesting. You're too sweet. You're just, like, that's a sweet example.

I really was bad at that job. Also, I would like to tell you that I was, I did not believe that this is actually you calling me, and I am, like, on vacation and Costa Rica right now. And he was like, no, answer it. I bet it's Caleb. Okay. I'm going to let you go, and I'm going to text you later,

but thank you so much for answering. Okay. Bye, Caleb. Bye. I'm dead. What did she just say? She said she's on vacation and coast. Costa Rica.

She goes, I didn't think it was actually you calling me. I'm on vacation in Costa Rica. And my husband said, answer it. It might be him. That is so funny. She was one of the nicer ones, though. Jenny, I liked her. She liked me and I liked her.

And I don't think she cared that I was so bad at the job. But there's one or two people that I worked for that I wish I could get a hold of them because they hated me. And they were right. I was so bad at the job, but they couldn't fire me because I was a, I basically what I did was I used my personality as a weapon. to get like three or four influential people on my side and then I would be really bad at my job

but they would keep me around because I was fun. Personality hire. Truly and in a way that was like, I knew who I could piss off and who I couldn't. So did you use that to your advantage, obviously? 100%. It was a job that I didn't believe in or respect and I didn't want to be there.

So I was like... Did you get fired or you quit? I quit that one. I quit that one because I... Powerful. Well, hilariously, in January of 2020, I had just gotten managers and I quit to be a full-time community.

median and then I ended up driving for Uber Eats for seven months because there was number one no jobs I don't know what I was thinking and number two then COVID did you like that job I feel like you hated it Uber Eats yeah I actually really enjoyed being left alone and making my own decisions like this is when I'm going to work this is what I'm going to do but no people rich people don't tip yeah and that was the thing that made me the most mad is I was like what do you mean you ordered $500 of sushi and you gave me a $3 tip no it's really actually it's raining, snowing. I'm double parked in downtown Chicago. I'm getting tickets. I'm getting yelled at. Meanwhile, poor people on like a $10 McDonald's order being like, here's

three dollars. I'm sorry, I don't have more. It's so true. It's so true. Anyway, this guy would give you food to watch you eat it. Yeah, it was a crazy restaurant, but I'm still friends with a lot of people that work there, but I was just, I was known for just how much I would eat. It was like a big thing. And then I just had to cut corners. I was like, I have to be getting food during the shift. I can't not eat. And one of the busters was like, all right, here's a deal. I'll get you free food from the kitchen, but I just want to watch you eat it. Did it feel sexual? I'm sure it absolutely. Because of course, I can't, I'm sorry, I can't escape that being the kind of context of it all. I mean, absolutely. I'm sure that's what it was, but I just didn't make eye contact,

you know? Yeah. That might have done more for him. I'm worried. He, was he doing anything? No, unblinking, but. Okay. That's one of the scarier things I've ever. heard for real i hate that that happened around you i mean that was one of the craziest places i've ever worked yeah i mean i worked at applebees and golden corral once the most memorable story to me about working at golden corral was that i was like 16 working at golden corral and i would get scheduled for like all kinds of crazy shifts but the craziest one was the 4 a.m breakfast shift because we had a breakfast buffet and i would get scheduled no golden corral did breakfast yeah i don't know if all of them do but ours certainly did and it would be saturdays and sundays i'd have to get

get there at 4 a.m. to prep the omelet bar and then I'd run the omelet bar and I remember I had told my boss this guy that I didn't fucking like this guy he was a tool probably still is um I told him I can't work this Saturday this certain Saturday because it's homecoming and I'm on homecoming court and I have I have to like go do all the stuff and I won't be able to come in and do the omelette bar you have to schedule someone else maybe one of the 15 40 year olds who work here and this is their career and he I got the schedule like you get an email with your schedule you know and it has me scheduled on my bar Saturday morning of homecoming and so I text him and I go hey Kevin

I think I told you this but I can't work that shift because I have homecoming and I'm on the court and it's I have a bunch of stuff going on that weekend and he calls me and he goes he goes Caleb this is Kevin and I go yeah I know did you get my text and he goes don't you ever in your life tell an employer what you can and can't do the tone that you took with me I will fire your ass so cool like really like yelled at me and I was like

I can't work that day and he's like then you have to get it covered and I was like in my head I'm like does he know that I'm 16 like did he forget that I think he's talking to a child and I remember I did get it covered but I was like

this guy is insane almost every restaurant manager has some of the most diseased mental illness I've ever experienced in my life I mean I worked it out back at 16 and I had a bunch of nose piercings. I was a little emo,

and they made me cover it up with, like, multiple band-aids. So people would walk... People would walk in on the host, and they're like, you know, it looks like I got a nose drop. They're like, oh, you know. Sorry, she's not alternative.

She has lesions. It's not what it looks like, I promise. I'd have to use, like, one of the big ones that would cover both. And they, and they just, like, they just didn't, you know, I wasn't good at the job. So anytime, like, a kid shit all over the bathroom, they'd be like, get in there.

You know, I was the girl that just, like, cleaned up the shit. Yeah. Aw. And then we had a regular who was blind, and she would bring her dog. Why are you looking at me like that? Listening. Okay. She would bring her dog in until we go down and we pet the dog.

And oftentimes then there was a time where she started petting me. Huh? She didn't, she thought I was the dog. I'm bent down on petting her dog. She thinks I'm the dog. She's, like, kind of petting my head. and I'm kind of looking at my manager, and he's like, stay. Like, stay down there until she's done.

So I'm bandaged up, getting pet. There's no chance that she thought you were the dog, just so you know. There's no chance that this person whose other sentences are heightened and touches that dog every day thought you were the dog. I think, feel the top of my head. No, it's not giving dog, and I think she really just wanted to touch you. And people can be perverts. We don't know if she was, but she might have been.

Then I'm having some really, like, fucked up experiences at restaurants. Yeah. Your manager telling you to stay down there is also crazy. Stay. Yeah. Better finish. My manager at Applebee's was going through a breakup for like five months. Like they were on and get off again.

She didn't want him, whatever. And he got like objectively worse during that period. And every night when we were closing, he would, at this point I'm 17, 16, 17, he would play, I'll be by Edwin McCain. And like barely not cross. and make us clean in a way where I've never cleaned before. He'd be like, we have to do it for opening crew.

And I'd be like, this is about something else. Please, I have school in the morning, let me go home. And I just remember, I'll be blaring through the Applebee's while I'm on my hands and knees scrubbing tile that's like behind a booth. No one will ever see it. I was like, this is so insane. I can't believe I have to do this.

Well, like, yeah, restaurant romance is really deeply affect the entire place. When I was in college, I worked at this, like, fancy Italian restaurant. I was the host and I was dating the busser who was like 27 and I'm 19. You know what I mean? Of course. He cheats on me with one of the servers that's working there. Of course, yeah. He had no choice.

Yeah, he gives me chlamydia. Of course, yeah. So he has chlamydia. I have chlamydia. The server gave him chlamydia. She was also fucking our manager who had chlamydia. Yeah. So there was literally a week where every level of service had chlamydia.

Yeah, of course. Like we were all just like it. It's just what it's like When you're working down and da It was like such a disaster Like we were all just like And I stayed with him Serving up bloomin onions

While you have like the itchiest pussy ever Sorry guys Sorry if I'm being weird y'all Here's your bloomin onion I have comedia that I got from the whole staff Yeah yeah your server has chlamydia too The manager that's checking in on you Also is chlamydia

The guy that's cleaning your table Also has chlamydia Do you want to add shrimp to that steak We all have chlamydia just so you know we all had to take like a couple days off at different slightly different sporadic periods and it's like i had strep throat you know what i mean the manager had like swimmer's year sorry everybody i know we all have chlamydia but mine's actually tennis elbow and i'm off for the week that's so funny did you ever fuck an employee at a restaurant did you ever have like a love

affair no there were no gay people where i grew up yeah so they were there they just i was I wasn't privileged enough to be getting comity at the Outback. Yeah, well, at the time, I was, you know, fucking guys, so. We also didn't have an Outback. That was considered a fancy restaurant where I grew up. Outback was like a city restaurant. It's like, you got to go to the city if you want Outback. Interesting.

Applebee's was the nicest restaurant in our town, and I'm not kidding. People came for like Sunday after church meals. Yeah. To the Applebee's. It was the nicest joint town. Applebee's does hold up. The half-priced appetizers have gotten me through many challenging periods in my life. many challenging periods in my life

I am alive today at least in some part because of half-priced appetizers at Applebee's and they can clip that run that Applebee's Hi Applebee's I'm only alive at this point

of my life because during multiple times when I was too broke to live you gave me chicken wings for $3. Thank you Applebee's what? Thank you Applebee's

shout out for real and I when I worked there I would get the most insane shift meals I'd like take it I'd bring in Tupperware and be like throw some extra stuff in there for me. I need to take this home.

And the cooks would be like, all right, man, whatever. What was your favorite thing to get? I would get a French onion soup. I would get a piping hot cauldron of French onion soup. And then I would get, they had this like hot bacon vinaigrette salad that I really liked. Like they ate. They heated up the dressing before they put it on your salad. Not the lettuce though, please.

I know. No, the lettuce wasn't heated, but it didn't matter because the sauce was so hot. Do you remember smoking sections? No. We're the same age, right? I really don't think we... Yeah, but I really don't think we had any in my hometown. I think they were gone by the time I was, like, at restaurants.

We had them at our pizzeria, Uno. Really? I think that's it, Philly. That's like an East Coast thing, though, I think. Well, not that the Midwest doesn't have them, but I just... We didn't have enough restaurants, and Applebee's was so corporate that I feel like it was already beaten out of there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think this is probably a local joint, right? Yeah. Were your parents sitting in the smoking section or no? No, no. I think my mom smoked cigarettes, but she quit before I was born. Whoa. You smoke.

No. You're a big cigarette head. No, I'm not. I smoke them when I'm going through something. You're going through something a lot. Yeah, but in fairness. Yeah, in fairness, that's true. But I haven't smoked a cigarette in like a week.

That's really nice. I don't want to be like known as a smoker. Like I'm not a smoker. It's just like kind of like, I don't know. There's something about you're just like, like no it's objectively cool to see someone do it kissing a smoker it feels like prison yeah no I don't consider myself a smoker it's more like a flare-up I understand when people are like I don't want a date a smoker like kiss a smoker like it is it is absolutely disgusting it's too bad because

you can really be so hot while you're smoking cigarettes and then you can really the taste of your mouth can be one of the most daunting things that anyone's ever experienced yeah if I like ever smoke a cigarette it's like I'm never like kissing someone or anything yeah well you don't smoke them enough I think to have like permanent smoker's mouth yeah and No, no, no, no. But there is, God, there's nothing like a cigarette sometimes. Really? I've never smoked one. I know.

And I don't want you ever, too. Really? Yeah, don't. I bet a lot of people listening right now want me to smoke one. No, I don't think you'd like it. And you'd hold it wrong. What the fuck? That was so mean, Carr.

Why did you say that? Because it's just like, I just, like, know you. You hold it like this, don't you? no it's two hands it's two hands no you need both hands a finger from each kind of like a recorder like I'm playing a piccolo yeah

no I'd hold it right I think you would get really nervous and you wouldn't want to seem like you were nervous so you would hold it a little weird or you'd use like your back two fingers yeah I'd use what you'd use like your back two fingers yeah yeah yeah like i'm fucking mr bean no you do i'm a calm like i'm a foolish idiot

and you would like you would take a couple drags and you'd like you'd do a little bit and then you'd be like this is disgusting and you'd throw it i think i'd be really good at smoking cigarettes and for someone who doesn't want me to try it you're awfully convincing me to do it me like you nagging me into becoming a smoker i think i'd be really good at it and i think i'd look really hot you would look hot but you'd be holding it weird if i had better style if i had like better personal style you have great personal style no if I had better personal style I feel like we have to go back to that what's going on like I'm wearing this polo it was seven dollars from old Navy like 10 years ago it does not look good vintage no I really

appreciate you but like it does not look good these jeans are ugly like they're tailored which is a little nicer but like I just don't I'm not I'm not here's what it is I don't want someone else's style I think I everything I do is cool because I am cool and I'm doing it coolly yeah but I do think objectively I'm not capable of looking carefree in fashion. Do you know? Like this doesn't look carefree. It looks careless.

Yeah, I don't think I'm very carefree either. My button is, my fly is down. I think you look really carefree. Do you know what I mean, though, like a cool person who looks like,

they're like leaned up against a car smoking a cigarette and they're dressed in a way that's like, I do know that you care about that outfit, but you do feel carefree in it. If I put on capital A, capital O, an outfit,

it feels like, God, that guy is like going somewhere. You know? No, I have the same thing. It's like I can't pull off, like, effortless. I'm the same way. I'm not too effortless, but I also think, like, the more I, I just don't have enough time. Like, I don't, I like to feel good and, like, look good, but I'm just like, I don't, like, I don't know what a designer.

I'm just like, how do people have the time? Like, I just don't really care about clothes. I wish I cared more, but I don't. Yeah. I was just doing a fitting for a job that has, is like, a very, like, has a very fashiony thing. And I can't say any of the designer. brands and i found myself getting really insecure that you didn't know them well yeah that they that they i have this like fabulous old gay stylist this like queen that i'm obsessed with and he's like

and he's like of course we're going to put you in the margella and i'm like right and i'm sure that that's what is what does that mean you know but i don't know any of it so i feel like behind and i also don't really like the name or have you ever had like i've pronounced like a designer wrong and someone's like oh that's not how you say that oh my god like you think it's i of st Laurent. I'm like, how am I supposed to fucking know? Why the fuck would I know? And why is it spelled like that? You sang-lar-or? Or whatever the first. And then they do that little like, croissant. And it's like, shut up.

First of all, don't be French. That's the number one thing I have to say. Seriously. I remember one of the times I got most mad at somebody and like one of the first times I really stood up for myself, I was like 16 or 17, we're finding out that was a really foundational area for me in this episode, I guess. This guy, his name, well, this doesn't matter. This guy, I was like a school conference. And this guy was like, he was like an East Coast guy and he went to like a very fancy school district and we were like at a school conference together in like Orlando or something something like that and he was like he was like yeah maybe when I get older I want to open like a habadashery or something and I was like I was like oh

that'd be cool and he looked at me and he goes you probably don't even know what a habadashry is and I was like yeah I guess I don't I just thought it sounded cool and he was like yeah it's a menswear store. And I remember in the moment, I had never talked to someone like this, but I went, what is your problem? It was the first time

that I encountered someone so rude that I was like, what the fuck is your, what are you, why are you doing this? Because he was right. I didn't know what it was, but I was like,

I was just being nice and fun. Also, why some men's, I don't know. Why are you saying habadashry, you fucking freak? I didn't know what a habadashry was. And when you were saying it, I did not think men's warehouse.

I said, a place where they, like, sell rabbits. Yeah. Also, how are you going to try to little bro me when you're saying shit, like, habedashry? I ought to beat your ass. Call it a men's clothing store. Yeah, I don't know where he's at now, but that was, that was nuts.

No, I've been, like, on edge, like, about to, um, I don't know. I'm going to, like, snap at someone soon. Everyone thinks I'm so fucking nice. And it's, like, I really almost, like, went in on this woman. What happened? In the Hamptons. She, okay, so my friend was, like, We're in this store, and it's like this fancy vintage store.

And this woman is bat shit crazy. She's like, keep an eye. Make sure nobody's stealing in here. And we're like, what? Like, relax. And then my friend is looking at this shirt. She goes up to my friend and she goes, you know, that's an extra small, right? That's kind of funny.

It's not funny. And I was this close to being like your Botox makes you look like a cat, you stupid, dumbass bitch. You could have gotten away with that, I think. And I wish, I just like, I'm not. quite that brave i i think i it was so fucked up yeah i got really mad at someone recently because they i was telling a story that involved a couple of friends who happened to be like well known famous people and they were they were they like they're like like like nice name drop and i was like no those are just people i'm friends with don't be a fucking asshole to me i didn't like that i was

like you're you live in a space where that's exactly they're projecting exactly you would like to name drop and so you're putting that on me i'm just just actually telling a story and you're being fucking annoying. Did you say that? No. I just I wasn't in the mood. A lot of times I will let someone get away with something crazy because I'm just not in the mood. That was objectively

rude and I was just like I remember identically they weren't trying to be rude either. They just were projecting but they said that and I went, that's not what I was doing and then I just moved on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was like, I'm not going to do this with you right now. But I feel also like, I feel what you're saying. I feel like I let so much small shit slide

that I am on the verge of of like really letting someone have it. I'm really gonna let someone have it soon. Like it's, I'm really on the verge. Like, my friend lives in the Hampton, so I've been there a lot this summer, which it's a beautiful place, but the people there have never seen anything like it.

We're biking in a bike lane. This guy in a Jeep is like, move the fucko, and I went off. I was like, you fucking piece of shit. Loser ass, bitch. Like, I've never seen myself like that. And it's like, we're in the Hamptons. You know what I mean?

Like, there's moms with strollers. Like, we're not in New York City. And my friend was like, are you okay? Like, what's kind of happening? My friend was like, what's going, something going on. She's like, you have been a little

off recently. And I was like, hey, that guy was an asshole. Your response was way disproportionate. Yeah, yeah. He just kind of like yelled

and I was like ready to like throw a rock at his car. Yeah. Like I was pissed. That's beautiful, Carly. I think you should have done that. I know everyone just keeps calling me nice

and the more they call me nice, the more I'm ready to like. I know that you're not a serial killer, but that does sound like a serial killer thing to say. Like the more people call me nice, the more I want to prove them wrong. Yeah, yeah, I mean.

I mean, I don't know, put me at a prefts conference, see what happens. How's your cat? I know. I'm trying. I'm trying. That really means a lot. He's good. I love him so much.

My cat named Walter. He's really special. Caleb won't come over and meet him. I don't like the way he looks. His face is very, his face is very, um, it's menacing to me. Yeah, he's a Persian cat, so he's a flat face. Well, don't say he's Persian.

That makes me seem prejudiced. Well, I don't know. I'm not prejudiced. I, you're the one, I didn't say anything. Yeah, he just, he's, he's menacing to me. He's, um, no, I really love him. I, Maddie, our friend, got me a cat psychic. Okay, yeah.

That's interesting. I mean, she had a lot of really insane things to say. I'm certain that she did. She goes, your cat has ADHD. And she goes, do you look like him? And we do kind of look like. Okay.

And I was like a little bit. And she goes, he'd like to be in matching green outfits with you. And she goes, and he really wants to meet your dad. And I said, why? Nice. And she said, he's a character, you know. And apparently he wants a cape. Okay.

I'm going to get him one for Halloween. I would like some praise. for how well I'm handling all of this. Handling it really well. Listen, a lot of... Because I want to act out right now. I mean, she did say some insane shit. She was like, he feels like Count Dracula.

And I was like, I think the call needs to end. Yeah. Yeah. The idea of a cat psychic in general has really upset me. Everything you said has upset me. It's obviously funny, but like I don't like that she got paid to do that. Well, it was a gift and I appreciated it for Maddie. And, um, but yeah, no, he's a really special thing.

I didn't really know, like, animals could make you feel this way. It's opened up a side of me. I just, like, I never knew existed. But he's worried about me. Walter. Yeah. He makes me realize how quite unstable I am. What is he as a cat doing to make you feel that way?

Well, it's like, you know, I'll be sobbing, and he's kind of staring at me, like. Yeah. And then five minutes later, I'm like, I love you. Like, you're my special boy. And he's just like, you're bat shit. You know what I mean? Like, it affects him. It affects him. He's affected. He hides. He's affected.

He's deeply affected. Yeah. Well, I have a question for you. What's so true to you today? I don't know if you're going to like this, but what's so true to me is that I think summer's really overrated. Of course I like that. You do? Oh, yeah. Especially as someone who kind of worked all summer and didn't do anything fun. I'm really in a position to accept that. I'm really, really over it. I get so sad in the summer. I don't. There's so many lines. It's like, why is there an event pop up at Hungry Goes Coffee? like I just I'm everyone's like go to the beach go to the beach the aliens are in the ocean you know what I'm saying there's sharks everywhere I don't like it yes everyone's horny but in a hurtful way like in a painful way yeah I don't I'm sweating from every orifice yeah I go through like five pairs of underwear a day what I'm sweating I'm sweating I'm sweating my pussy's screaming help help you're sweating through five pairs of underwear a day yeah I'd say okay we have a different perspective on summer okay what's yours I just think it's kind of hot I guess it lines up with the sweating thing,

but you're like, you're like, it's horny in a hurtful way and hungry ghost is too busy. I'm like, okay, we have a different, it's a different thing.

It's just like a, I'm not having a, I like fall. So I'm so glad you said that because it's so clear to me that autumn is the most ideal season that we have and people don't respect it enough. I think actually,

actually some like, like autumn, girls who really go in for autumn have gotten a kind of a bad rap. It's like Christian girl fall type of thing, but I'm like, no, They're right.

They are right. And I think that it really stems beyond that. I feel like you have Halloween, which is very queer-coded. Halloween's extremely queer-coded. I like the leaves change. I like to brood. You can yearn. I like to listen.

Folk music hits different in the fall. There's smells, these nostalgic smells. Especially if you grew up summer with seasons, it's like just the change of the same. There's something about fall. I could cry thinking about it. I can't fucking wait. I need summer to be over. God.

Fall's going to be so good. It's going to be so good. If this fall doesn't hit, I'm going to have to make some serious decisions. I'll be dead. What? Hey, what? No, this fall needs to hit really bad.

I kind of felt that about summer and then summer got away from me and nothing fun happened. Like, plenty of fun things happened, but I worked a lot. You also, like, didn't miss anything. It was just, like, too hot. I know. I just wish I, yeah, I told myself that summer wouldn't get away from me this year and it did. But fall will not slip through my fingers. No.

I will not allow it. I will have a gorgeous fall. We're going to have a gorgeous fall. I will have a gorgeous fall. We're going to get big hats. and we're going to get scarves. That's not part of it for me. We should go to church one time.

I'll go to church. You know I go to Universalist Unitarian Church sometimes. Yeah. You can go with me anytime. Yeah, I do Unitary. I'm going to start doing that stuff. It's beautiful. Those people are only a little bit strange and mostly lovely.

I know. I'm going to start working with a bunch of them. We'll see how it goes. Being a little bit strange is actually beautiful. Oh, 100%. Sometimes you want to be around somebody a little bit. Do you think I'm a little bit or a lot? Strange?

Be honest. I think you're perfect. And I mean that. No, be real. I'm being serious. What level of strange? Zero to ten. I think out of zero being the least strange person I've ever met, like a boring normie.

And 10 being like what? You have to help me on the 10? 10, it's like, oof, like a... Like might have bodies in the basement? Yeah, conspiracy theorists. Conspiracy like crazy, crazy, okay. I would say on that scale of weird... I would say publicly you present as like a four or a five.

and the truth is that you're rocking like a seven. And I love that. I love the real you that I know. And I love the fake or the public you. You're like an honestly or two-faced fake bitch. Well, no, but I love, no, it's like the moon and rising thing or son or whatever. You know? Do you know yours?

Have I ever said this on here? What is my stuff? You're an Aquarius. And I would guess that you're like a Leo moon. if I'm being honest. Would it say rising? And I feel like you're like a Scorpio rising. I have to search Aquarius because I know that's my number one guy.

My ascendant is Taurus. My son is Aquarius. My moon is Scorpio. Oh, I knew there was Scorpio in there. My Mercury is Aquarius. My Venus is Sagittarius. Oh, interesting. My Mars is Leo.

I'm on Mars and Leo too. What does that mean? It makes sense that we do performing. It means you're like, Mars is like a lot of career and then like if you're Leo it's a performer so it makes sense.

Okay, that's interesting. And Sajv Venus makes a lot of sense for you. Sajv Venus? Why? What is it? That's in like love and dating and Saj is very like carefree wants to explore like you know.

I don't find myself to be carefree in love and dating. I don't find it. Do you think that's true of me? Not like care. Well I I feel like you like you love. like, when you were traveling, it's like you're always having some love affair somewhere.

Carly, we have a segment for you, the true, false segment you've played before. I'm going to read you 15 statements. You can tell me as quickly as you can, if they're true or false, you get 10 or more correct. I'm going to give you $50 U.S. dollars. Are you fucking serious? Cheerios is the most popular serial in the U.S. True. True.

Dune is older than Star Wars. True. True. True. Rocky Bobo was a real person. True. False. There are four stars on the Chicago flag.

false true there have only been 11 egot winners true false 27 Barbie was invented by a woman named Ruth yeah true true octopuses have three hearts okay true true avocados or vegetables false false their fruits nutmeg is a hallucinogen true true the last letter added to the English alphabet is J true true Philadelphia City Hall is the largest municipal building in the country I should know this true true ducks are herbivores True. False, omnivores. There are no operational Chucky Cheese locations in the U.S. False. False.

I've been. Debra Huff is the current mayor of Doylestown, Pennsylvania. True. False. Noney West. Sloss moves three times faster in water than online end.

Oh, I believe that. True. True. How'd she do? Garley! Do I really get 50 bucks or that? Yeah. Yeah.

TdGD. Something like that. Something like that. that something will happen don't worry about it carly is there anything you want to tell the people that we didn't get to i just want you guys to know that caleb is really as amazing as he seems carly come on man and he is just such a good friend and i love you very much tell them where they can find you probably on instagram you can follow me there i don't really use anything else nice i love you i love you too great episode it was so fun thanks for having me again

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