So True with Caleb Hearon - Devon Walker Has Friends in Low Places
Episode Date: August 8, 2024Howdy, y'all! This week's guest is the hilarious Devon Walker! Caleb and Devon talk buffets, growing up country-adjacent in Texas, Saturday Night Live, life on the road, and much more in this... special episode filmed in the heart of New York City! Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes! https://youtube.com/@sooootruepod?si=v6jSeGm7tdow05Rg Join our Patreon for an exclusive extended interview with Devon and other bonus content! https://patreon.com/SoTruePodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink  Follow Devon! @internetdevon   Follow the Show! @sooootruepod Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud Recorded at wtf studios in New York, NY See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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You don't know what anyone's doing with the pronouns anymore.
I can't even pretend to know.
You know, it used to be.
Speak on it.
What did it used to be?
Speak on what it used to be.
Hey, back in the day, you used to just.
Uh-huh.
But yeah, I don't know.
Why do you think you got SNL over me?
Huh?
What are you?
We auditioned at the same time.
We did audition at the exact same time.
What did I do wrong?
What characters did you do?
Stand-up.
You did stand-up?
I just did stand-up.
You did characters?
No, I did stand-up as well.
I shouldn't have done the same stand-up set as you.
That was a mistake.
Yeah, that was the thing.
We both went. We did that bit about the cops.
Yeah.
We both did that bit about them.
How we love them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, shout-out to the people.
Yeah, came across different, though, I guess.
Big Blue, let's go.
Big Blue.
Shout-out Big Blue.
Love everything y'all doing in the community, man.
Keep that up, man.
Keep that up.
And me and Caleb both got a joke where we say that exact stuff verbatim on stage.
People think you're kidding, but you do love the cops.
You fuck with the police in a very serious way.
You know what's funny?
No.
Tell me what's funny.
Go ahead.
Tell me what's funny.
No, you know.
No, no, no.
I don't know.
How do I?
No, I don't like the cops, of course.
No.
Hey, hey.
I was trying to think about I was like what's my actual
you know my relationship
New York City cops feel so much more chill
than like I grew up in Texas
you know this
cops were so much
shout out Pflugerville
you did a little research
Pflugerville slash Austin
you think this is a joke to me
no I
you on your Nardwuar type behavior.
I see that.
My guy got on the Wikipedia.
Yeah, the cops in Texas are a little different.
They're wearing cowboy hats.
The cops in Texas, to me, cops are so much less scary when they can't pull you over.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, in New York City, I'm never driving.
So, like, all the cops here are also on their phones.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
They're playing games
Yeah they're truly playing games
They feel very distracted
So like I don't
I don't feel nearly the same way
About New York City cops
I feel about Texas cops
Or just Southern cops in general
Cause Eric Adams
Is like shutting down libraries
So that these guys
Can play Candy Crush
You know what I'm saying
Truly
Yeah
Truly like
They're in Central Park
Just fucking
My boys are just
Neck down
Neck down just
I'm like y'all can't do an atrocity
You guys can't do something bad
New York City police have never really done anything bad
They've always been on the up and up
That's what I always say
As far as I know
And when I run for mayor that'll be my platform
I would love for you to run for office
I'd vote
I don't think people want that
I don't know enough about things I could actually see you to run for office. I'd vote. I don't think people want that. Really? I don't know enough about things.
I could actually see you being a political figure one day.
Stop.
I could actually see it.
You know, I went and hung out with Caleb in Kansas City earlier.
And this man's the actual, he's like the unofficial mayor of this.
Have you ever been to?
No, yeah.
Yeah, and he's like, he knows about all the politicians
and all the new bills that are coming in.
And he's like, nah, we actually can't trust that guy.
He did this last week.
And I'm like, well, you said, are you coming to this party tonight at a known, like, bad billionaire's house?
Because that's the kind of people you run with.
And which is no offense.
I totally get it.
But you said you're going to this.
I said, no, I probably won't be there.
You know what it is.
You know what it truly is.
And I don't doubt that he was a bad billionaire. but it's like, look, if somebody's going to
invite me to a big ass house, I'm going to look at it.
I'm going to go check out the trophy.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to look at it.
I'm not going to endorse their politics, but it's just like, I'm going to look at their
bathroom and see how they're living different than me.
Yeah.
I want to see what their tub look like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What are your politics?
Who are you voting for?
Who are you voting
for come november hey you know i'll be on the same side as everybody that listens to this podcast
really that's the answer yeah i don't i mean i don't know what is how do you feel about politics
they make you uncomfortable how do you come on uh i don't yeah no i don't i feel like you're
pretty apolitical i'm not i'm not I'm not apolitical. I just,
um, man, wow. I didn't think we were going to go here. There's good people on both sides. No,
no, no, no, no, no. If, if anything, it's just like, I mean, I think much like you in Kansas
city, it's just like, we got to get involved locally. Yeah. You go in, I'm not really doing
that, but like, I do have opinions and I do know that that is like something that we got to get involved locally. Yeah. You go and I'm not really doing that. But like I do have opinions.
Yeah.
And I do know that that is like something that I need to get.
So I'm not apolitical.
I'm lazy.
Yeah.
That's actually the situation.
That's most of the country.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's a really huge.
I think actually it's funny to me like when people talk about the center of the country
a lot of times they're like, oh, everyone's Republican.
I'm like, most people are checked out.
Yes.
Nobody.
They don't give a fuck.
Most people know a thing that they like an article that they read online and then they kind of base everything
off of that if even going going forward yes if even I think like most of my family genuinely
if I was if I were to list like and this is not an insult if I were to list like 10 major things
in the culture wars that happened recently or like in the news they'd be like oh that's crazy
I didn't know any of that like they're just not they're like i've got bills to pay so i'm not really not focused on that yeah i'm not worried
about trying to get by yeah ultimately i think that see this is why you should run yeah you got
a good perspective on things because i'm just like hey we all just trying to do it yeah we all just
trying to hang out you're like you're like y'all everyone relax i'm lazy you could be lazy it's
crazy nobody's run on that sort of platform i will everyone relax i've been saying could you see you could you see yourself running for some sort of office one day
god i don't know you know if um if my country needed me you've thought
oh you're going national yeah oh i see okay if my entire country needed me okay yeah you're going
if the country needed you i was talking about the greater kansas city area you thought the
low youth okay so you thought like an alderman yeah yeah yeah i have alderman in kansas city uh no i don't think so i
don't i really don't think so but i do think that uh it was my plan originally right i was planning
on being in politics i worked in politics i worked campaigns i thought i was gonna go to law school
and be like a politician for sure yeah i don't want to but i do think I do think it shocks me how much people on the left are fumbling at politics.
Yeah.
The liberal progressive policies win every single time.
You look at the polling in Florida right now.
Kamala is polling 17 points behind Trump or something like that, which you would expect from Florida since Obama.
And she's polling so far behind him, but there's a past weed initiative that's polling at 70%.
70 to 30.
Yes.
I do feel like this is very common.
Yeah.
It's like, yeah, it's just the idea of the left makes people be like, no, no, I'm not with that stuff.
But then when you actually dig into the policies, people are like, oh, yeah, that's awesome.
Yeah.
Every time.
They don't like us because we're annoying.
Sure.
But they like our policies.
And they're right, by the way.
Leftists are annoying.
Yeah, it's true.
I'm seeing people do discourse about Tim Walz right now, the governor ofnesota that he shouldn't be the vp because he didn't go to an
ivy league school really it's a real discourse that i'm seeing oh i didn't know about this yeah
and i'm like what school did he go to he went to like uh university of minnesota mankato or
something what you say shadron as well yeah he went to a couple because he's got a couple but
it's like that's a that's an that's a plus yeah but people on left, there's a lot of elitism going on over here.
Sure.
But, yeah, I mean, Kansas codified abortion.
Like, Kansas passed abortion.
Like that where it's like, yeah, I don't desire to be a politician.
I think it's the worst job in the world.
But I do desire for people who have leftist ideals to, like, chill the fuck out and just talk about the messaging.
Which I think Tim Waltz is doing, which is kind of cool.
Okay.
We've got a pro Tim Waltz.
I like Tim Waltz a lot.
I like Andy Beshear's just fine.
Okay.
Josh Shapiro, the VP thing.
I don't know when this episode's coming out,
so this might all be moot.
But school vouchers are a problem for me.
School vouchers I don't like.
Oh, sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Private schools and subsidizing only private schools
and leaving public school
kids to fail it's silly
you have a masters degree
you got a masters in what organizational
something
I know about Devin
this is not the stuff I thought I was going to talk
about on here
none of this stuff is what I did not
think I was going to talk about being
my political beliefs and going to grad school.
Yeah, well, because you think, I know what you think of me.
What do I, tell me what I think of you.
Oh, you go, oh, my friend Caleb, he's just this big, dumb, goofy guy.
He's just this clown.
He's this silly.
He's this goober.
He would never take me to task on the issues.
No.
That's awesome. That's what you think he would never he would never take me to i mean look here let's talk about it yeah yeah let's talk about it i went to grad school i went
to a grad program that i truly think was like a scam i do truly think was i do have a master's
degree but like what did i actually
come away with yeah who's to say who's to say everybody that i went to grad school with is
like a management consultant now like uh deloitte or like uh mckenzie yeah but like but like lower
paying less prestigious ones that's tough to sell out and not even get the bag is crazy no it's still
a bag but it's like you know a texas bag is like you only need like 80k to live a really beautiful life i don't i know it you know what i'm saying exactly like
if you go back to where i grew up like you could really i could have been a homeowner already
yeah instead of you know living the way i'm living yeah yeah you don't own in new york
anybody who has less than a billion dollars truly can't Not quite, I'm getting close
I'm getting close
I've been saying on stage, I'm going to sell out soon
And once I do that
I think you already did, didn't I see you doing some Jack Daniels
Partnerships
It was Captain Morgan
And that's a delicious
Spiced rum
That's a delicious spiced rum
They put a new ingredient in the. That's a delicious spiced rum. They've got a,
they put a new ingredient in the vanilla that's actually making it pop.
And it's actually something that's so easy and light.
You could drink it over ice.
Not to mention a variety of cocktails that are listed on CaptainMorgan.com.
They need to send you another check immediately.
I would like that actually.
Post haste.
I would like to get,
cause,
cause that,
I done ran through that bag already.
Captain Morgan, let's work again.
Also, Sprite, any, you know, any sort of, any of you guys who want to talk, let's have a conversation.
Captain Morgan, Sprite.
Go ahead, shout out the other brands.
Who are you wanting to hear from?
Sprite?
Let's say Pizza Hut.
Really?
Yeah, I grew up in a Pizza Hut household.
Yeah.
Which is uncommon. I feel like most people don't. I'll tell you, we were a Pizza Hut household. You in a Pizza Hut household Which is uncommon
I feel like most people don't
I'll tell you, we were a Pizza Hut household
You were a Pizza Hut household?
We were because
See, I knew there was something going on
That's the one thing
That's what makes this work
That is the main thing
Well, do you remember Pizza Hut
Back when they had the like
The fucking like Pizza Hut chandeliers
Of course
In the restaurant
This is one of my earliest memories
In the little buffet
Yeah, we had a little buffet
There was one right by the high school
in the town, in Pflugerville.
Pflugerville.
Please, if anybody from Pflugerville...
I want to become like what you are to Kansas City.
I want to be to Pflugerville specifically.
I don't want to be...
It should be pretty easy.
I don't want to...
I mean, is there a lot going on over there?
Okay.
Hold on.
Hold on, hold on.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I'm just saying.
They shot...
Look, they shot the tv show friday night lights
at my high school damn did y'all see yeah damn the jerseys the uniforms those are literally our
high school football jerseys wow like i i can't tell you how many people in my life i've made
watch the pilot episode because that episode has like real people that i like grew up with in it
yeah like football coaches from our school. And like,
there's a lot of like cameo,
like the,
the high school football star from like when I was a freshman and he was a
senior,
he has like a little cameo.
And I remember the whole town was like,
nah,
that's fucking,
that's Antoine Cobb.
Yeah.
That's Antoine.
Antoine.
If you're listening,
it's one shot out.
I see you.
I see you.
I'm just saying Pflugerville.
Yes.
I don't,
I have a lot of competition In Kansas City
You do
If I want to be a Kansas City guy
Because I went to that event
I mean it's Sudeikis
It's Stone Street
It's Rudd
It's Riggle
It's Heidi Gardner
It's Janelle Monae
Oh really
Janelle Monae
Kansas City girl
I didn't know that
Shout out Kansas City they
I don't know what they're doing
With the pronouns these days
But shout out Janelle
Whatever you're up to
With the pronouns
Shout out to Janelle
At Kansas City there's a lot
Pflugerville I'm thinking
You might have an easier lane
To the crown
That is true That is true You know who You know who I learned Is from Pflugerville I'm thinking you might have an easier lane to the crown That is true
You know who I learned is from Pflugerville
And maybe once in my high school
The guy who is the Asian guy
Who was in Try Guys
Oh Eugene
I forget his last name
Their last name what do they do with the pronouns
You don't know what anyone is doing with the pronouns anymore
I can't even pretend to know
You know it used to be
Speak on it What, it used to be... Speak on it. What did it used to be?
Speak on what it used to be. Hey, back in the day,
you used to just...
But yeah, I don't know.
So you really
only got to eliminate one person
to get to 270 in Pflugerville.
I got to beat him out. Yeah.
The path to the throne is... I got to beat him out. Eugene, if you're watching, I'm coming for that ass. Yeah. I'm coming for it. Well... Yeah. To get to 270 in Pflugerville. I got to beat him out. Yeah. The path to the throne is. I got to beat him out.
Eugene, if you're watching, I'm coming for that ass.
Yeah.
I'm coming for it.
Well.
Yeah.
Nah, you know.
Whatever it takes.
You know what I'm saying?
Another, you know what I'm saying?
If I was on a different type of show, they'd be like, oh, pause.
Like, what?
I'm not.
We're not.
We don't do that here.
Yeah.
No, this show, my show.
I'm cool with gay people.
Have never mind them.
I think they're a lovely people.
I'm not on board with that type of mentality, yeah no but i you have mentioned that several times in private
you have several times in private mentioned to me that you don't like when i do i gotta stop
talking like this i gotta stop talking like this on a recorded line yeah this is going out yeah no
i know people will see it and not for nothing the show has listeners yeah that's what i
genuinely my girlfriend genuinely she's been she keeps like on multiple occasions she's been like know i know people will see it and not for nothing the show has listeners yeah that's what i genuinely
my girlfriend genuinely she's been she keeps like on multiple occasions she's been like
caleb's podcast is blowing up and i pay her to say that she said it apropos of nothing she'll
just like be on her phone she'll be like caleb's podcast is really big now zoe she wants me she
wants to be friends she wants to be my bestie you I mean, you're lovable. You're lovable. I feel like everybody. Thanks, dude.
I try. I try.
I really try. What did I talk about?
I did my, why did you get
SNL over me joke. You didn't really want to run with that one.
I tried to talk about your grad school.
You shut that down pretty quick.
You did love talking about the cops. That was a real moment.
Shout out to the boys. The boys.
The boys in blue. The boys in blue.
Y'all doing it it would you move back
to texas ever i would like to in like my dream scenario i'd like to like i'd like to have a
place here and then have like a place with some land back home austin uh i don't know if i move
back to austin austin is kind of like it's just you know it's lost a little bit of its charm for
me yeah i think it's uh when i was growing up it was like a real college town and now it's lost a little bit of its charm for me. Yeah. I think it's... When I was growing up, it was like a real college town,
and now it's like a tech hub
in a way that I think I might want to get away from.
But I'm going to wait and see.
You know what's actually kind of sweet
is my best friend is still back there,
and I kind of want to see where he settles down,
and I think I'm going to...
Do a little compound situation?
Exactly.
Ride gators back and forth?
Ideally.
Dude, that's what I'm trying to do.
I wish we had gators.
We need to get you a gator. We to get you some land oh you're talking about okay
never mind you're talking about alligators i was talking about and i was talking about an
actual alligator first like what they have in florida and then i realized you're talking about
sort of like a that's my bad i thought i was with a country boy but i i realize now i'm for i'm with
the city slicker i'm really i'm i'm i'm suburban is what I really am. No worries. I'm suburban.
I like, I grew up adjacent to the country, but not in it.
Yeah.
Also, like, I don't, you know, there were country black kids where I grew up, but like
my parents are both not from the country.
So I think they were, we weren't doing it.
We're not really trying.
I like, I grew up next to kids who were mudden, but I wasn't.
Mudden.
Were you mudden?
Oh, absolutely.
It's been probably 10 years since I've heard someone say mudden.
That is so funny, dude.
Mudden.
We're going mudden.
God damn, that's funny.
For the people who don't know what mudden is, it is literally like a dude who was wearing Carhartt before it was popular would get inside of a truck and then like when it was like after it had rained and then would just drive around in a field and just get mud all over his truck.
Yeah, kick it up.
Yeah, and just the mud would splash up and then you went mudding.
You went mudding.
That was the whole experience.
Damn.
Yeah.
Trying to get all mud on the tires, Brad Paisley.
You might know.
I don't know that one.
You know that one? I don't know that one. Get a little mud on the tires, Brad Paisley. You might know. I don't know that one. You know that one?
I don't know that one.
Get a little mud on the tires.
It's a good night.
Be out here soaking up the moonlight.
Y'all know.
Yee-haw.
So long.
I got the perfect place in mind.
Come on.
You don't know this one?
No.
Why are you looking? Brad Paisley. Why are you sounding surprised that I don't know this one? No. Why are you looking?
Why are you sounding surprised
that I don't know Deep Cut Brad Paisley?
This is not Deep Cut Brad Paisley.
Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, it's one of the hits. I'm sorry.
This is one of the hits. Brad, my bad. That's on me.
Do you know what my favorite Brad Paisley song is?
I would like to know. I would love to tell you about it. Please.
One of my favorite types of country
music is funny country music. Yeah.
And Brad Paisley made some of the funniest.
Okay.
And he made a song that was like, well, I love her, but I love to fish.
And then he goes on to be like, basically the story is the girlfriend in this song is like,
you either need to stop fishing or I'm going to break up with you.
Okay.
Yeah.
And he's like, she said if I hit that fishing hole today, she'd be gone by 12.
And he says, well, I'm going to miss her.
And he sings a whole song about how he chose to go fishing over his girlfriend.
I love that.
That's amazing.
I really love that because it's like a parody of a country song, but he did it really earnestly.
Oh, he means it.
Yeah.
Yeah, he means it and people love it.
What about Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off? By Joe Nichols? Did that do anything for you? Yeah, brother. Okay. a parody of a country song but he did it really earnestly oh he means it yeah yeah he means it and people love it what about uh tequila makes her clothes fall off did that by joe nichols did
that do anything for you yeah brother okay yeah brother tequila makes her clothes fall off joe
everything joe nichols did uh what else was he up to oh joe nichols did um um i think the devil
drives a coupe devil okay i watch him drive away over the hill.
I did not expect you guys to be locked in on country music in this way.
Come on.
Okay.
Joe Nichols is that guy.
Joe, if you're listening, and I know you are.
Yeah, he will be.
I love, love, love what you were up to for about five years there.
What about where you at on Honky Tonk, Badonkadonk?
Honky Tonk, Badonkadonk, you have only slightly lost me.
Okay.
Because Honky Tonk, Badonkadonk.
It feels like it's in the range
of what we're talking about here. Yeah, honky-tonk
tonk-a-donk-a-donk really mobilized
guys I didn't like in a way that
Of course. That's how I feel about country music
at large. Yeah, no worries.
That's how I feel about country music just sort of
in a general sense.
As a boy, as a black boy who grew up in Texas.
Yeah.
Really complicated relationship with the art form really because like yeah and what because like you know it's like it's
like republicans where it's like on one hand it feels like it's frightening like it's going to
take my rights away but also it feels like home but i am tapping my foot you know what i'm saying
yes it's like look man look when that when when some look When some fucking What's the song?
Friends in Low Places
When the opening strum of Friends in Low Places come on
I showed up in booze
And ruined your black tie
You better, you better, dude
Garth Brooks
Last one to know
Come on
Last one to show
I was the last one you thought you'd see there
And I saw the surprise one you thought you'd see there.
And I saw the surprise and the fear in his eyes
as I took his glass of champagne
and I toast it to you
honey, well, baby, throw
but you'll never hear me complain
because I got friends
in low places.
Come on.
You don't know anything about that.
Sing it word for word.
Sing every single one, sing the whole thing.
You don't know nothing about that.
You don't know anything about that.
You don't know anything about Garth Brooks.
No, I feel you.
I mean.
There's a handful of country songs that really kind of send me.
I will say that.
But same thing would be, not same thing.
Being gay in the country as well. Sure'm like i know what you mean when those
guys get a little too animated i go you're like ah yeah i'm like yeah if i have to one time i one
time i took mushrooms and i went to a party and uh the song uh what it was which m&m song was it
it was like it was like without me or like it was just an Eminem song,
and every white person started singing it on a level that I was like,
I got to get out of here, actually.
Yeah, they're like, their shoulders are moving too much.
You know what I'm saying?
Like they felt it in a way.
Mom, spaghetti.
You're like, whoa.
Yeah, I was like, I can't be around this.
I got to leave.
And sometimes country felt like that as well.
It could really go either way.
What's your favorite kind of white person?
You've told me some of your least favorites.
Ooh. Is there a white person you What's your favorite kind of white person? You've told me some of your least favorites. Ooh.
Is there a white person you like?
My favorite type of white person.
Honestly, I'd say you're in the mix.
Me?
I'd say you're in the mix.
You know, because you know what it is.
You know what my favorite...
Look at the sheer...
Look at the joy on his face.
Look at the joy on his face.
Guy like me.
Look at the joy on his face.
Guy like me waits his whole life to hear something like that
oh well that's yeah i do feel like it's really hyper i feel like most white people are waiting
for this not me this sort of and that's i think that's i think that's where
i think i think i think that's what i like about you because caleb feels um
because like if i if i were to bring you to a function and it was just you and you were the only white boy at the function, I feel like you would – you'd move – like not only do I think you'd move through really comfortably, I think you would also like kind of be a hit.
I feel like you would make like five new friends.
Sure.
Every time – also every time I go to like a Caleb party, there's like – there's the right amount of black people there I would say.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying? You're counting? You keep it track? I have a Caleb party, there's like, there's the right amount of black people there, I would say. Okay. You know what I'm saying?
You're counting?
You keep it track?
I have a general sense, right?
Our producer here, you know about it.
You know when you go, you go to a function and you're like, and it's like a white person's party.
And you know, sometimes you go and you go and you're like, man, there's really like, it's just me and one other person.
You're always really aware of that.
When I go to a Caleb party, there's enough black people around that I don't even realize.
I'm just like, okay, we're here.
We're here and we're represented.
It's not like, it's not just.
There's a quorum.
There's a voting block.
Yeah, exactly.
Got it.
And that's something, yeah.
You, I think.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's like, even if y'all don't talk the whole night, you're like, okay, it might have to be me and you.
It might have to be me and you you know it might have to be me and you if something goes sideways something goes sideways we just need to know where the exits are and where each other are yeah just to sort of
you know look out for each other i love that i do that with fat people at the buffet really yeah
you going to buffet still brother i thought kovid killed you think if you think i'm giving up on the
buffet you got another fucking thing coming.
I will ride Golden Corral until the fucking wheels fall off.
I will be in a Chinese buffet.
No, what you eating at Golden Corral?
Until anything they ask me to.
Caleb, you got too much money to be eating at Golden Corral.
I will ride Golden Corral until the wheels fall off.
You making too much money to be eating at Golden Corral, bro.
Golden Corral, if you're out there.
No.
If you're listening and I know you are.
Cut the camera, bro. Golden Corral, if you can hear me camera i want to be i want to be working with
y'all get jeff foxworthy out of there he was their spokesperson for a while was he i didn't
jeff foxworthy that tracks you might be redneck oh no i'm familiar you're eating the golden corral
look i can do it you don't think that shit went platinum in my high school that flugerville
you don't think that shit went platinum and right outside of austin
that's what that's what people don't realize is like the country was it's right there it's just
you know what i'm saying it's like austin is like sure sure sure sure but like you're never far from
the country when you're in texas you're not doing a buffet huh you're not doing about not presently
i grew up i grew up going to buffets and i hate to like abandon my roots and that way i've certainly
i've certainly changed and I need and I
needed to but I really live from New York it's forgetting who you are that's pretty good no it
was good it was good and I hate that it works I hate that it I hate that it was effective I wish
that one didn't work but you know I'm saying sometimes when you got one you got one hey Devin
maybe you need to start going live from Pflugerville
And get back in touch with your roots
No, you know what?
You were a Golden Corral guy
Yes
You were a Golden Corral guy
I was
We had this chain that I do not believe exists anymore
Called Ryan's
Oh, Ryan's
I know a Ryan's well
Y'all had Ryan's?
That Ryan's salad bar?
Yes
I was all up in there
We had Ryan's
That was very much like an after church sort of thing.
We were going to Ryan's after church or we were going to some lady's house and she would
cook and then we would watch like a VHS tape of a play that Tyler Perry made.
Yes.
I was watching the plays.
Do you know what was going platinum in my tiny little like mostly white Missouri town?
What's that?
Anything that Tyler Perry did.
Really?
Christian, rural, white people love Tyler Perry.
Interesting.
He cannot, back me up, he cannot do wrong.
He cannot do wrong.
This is fascinating.
Diary of a Mad Black Woman is on the television.
You know what, though?
You know what, here's a question that I'll ask, though.
Here's a question, because this feels important.
Was it any of the movies that didn't have Madea in it it or were that was it specifically the medea films oh you're talking
about like when um because he does other stuff what is he's making he's making a lot of stuff
actually just got to make why did i get married why did i get married yes it's on a crazy movie
it's on absolutely nuts and then the sequel is even crazier truly nuts me and my girl we've
really been clocking back in on Tyler Perry.
Yeah.
We've been really trying to, because he's putting out, that's what, I don't think people
realize, at any given point, he has like 10 projects out, like a year.
Yeah.
Like he has put it, like he has like five TV shows on air.
For sure.
And he is the credited writer and director on every single episode.
Yeah.
And.
It's really easy to make stuff when you don't use union rules.
Well.
Speak of, yeah, when you don't use union rules. Well. Speak of the devil.
Yeah, when you're paying somebody like.
When you have a compound in Atlanta that you're not using union rules, you can really churn stuff out.
It's pretty crazy.
You're paying some like ghostwriter like $10 an hour to like crank the scripts out.
When you said you guys are clocked in for Tyler Perry, I was like, well, be careful because you're not going to make much.
Just be careful because.
Yeah, we're not going to get that.
Yeah. Yeah, we're not going to have a W-2.2 the hospital you go to is not gonna be close to where you live i will say that
you'll be going to an urgent care in jersey city if you're not careful be very careful clocking in
tyler tyler what are we doing he's making i want you to watch he's got a new movie out starring
megan good uh it's called divorce in the black yeah i need you to watch, he's got a new movie out starring Megan Good. I've heard about this.
It's called Divorce in the Black.
Yeah.
I need you to go ahead and watch this and I need you to check back in with me.
I could probably do it right now.
Do you want me to just pull it up on my phone?
Bro, honest to God, if like, the opening scene is something, it's like, it's something to behold.
It really is a thing where I'm like oh he's operating on like either either
a higher level than everybody else or he's like intentionally undermining the black community
one of those you think he's a cia truly like one of those things is honestly maybe you shouldn't
watch it because i was really watching that tolly perry movie and i was like i don't think we should
even let white people see this but you brought it to me now i did bring it to you but honestly
as i'm talking about it now i'm
like actually maybe we should maybe this would just be for us yeah yeah i'll stay out of it you
let me know which one you think on it let me know at least watch the opening scene just watch the
opening scene okay watch the opening scene and that's you don't you don't need to see the rest
what's your favorite movie all time number one you can't say divorce in the black or whatever
that was it's up there divorce the Black, top five for sure.
I don't know.
What do I really like?
I'm trying to think about what movies I grew up watching all the time when I was a kid and stuff like that.
We were watching a lot of Julia Roberts in my house.
Oh, yeah.
Anything Julia was doing.
Pretty Woman.
Pretty Woman.
Oh, big time.
Should not have been watching that at the age I was watching that.
Yeah, same.
I saw, I remember seeing Pretty Woman at least like the first like 20 minutes or so when
I was like seven.
Movies used to be crazy because like that was a big studio rom-com and it starts with
them, it starts with her walking past like one of her like sex worker friends being killed
in a dumpster.
Oh, I, whoa.
Do you remember that?
No,
actually.
And you're like,
Whoa,
you watch it now.
And you're like,
this was a giant studio rom-com.
Yep.
And they're like,
she's literally like walking to work as a sex worker.
And then I go,
yeah,
what's her name?
Got her pimp killed her.
They literally say her pimp killed her and threw in a dumpster.
I do not remember that at all.
I thought they start the movie.
I have not seen pretty woman in a really long time.
I remember that George from Seinfeld is like a really bad guy in it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a scumbag.
Yeah, he's like a bad guy.
Shout out to George.
Shout out George Costanza.
Shout out George Costanza.
My favorite movie?
I don't know.
When I was like 13, me and my buddy used to watch Wedding Crashers like every single day.
Really one of the best.
Yeah.
Really one of the best.
Really holds up.
We used to make comedies one of the best. Yeah. Really one of the best. Really holds up a lot of We used to make comedies.
We really did.
Yeah.
Like that,
I feel like all of that,
all the,
all the like Apatow stuff,
Apatow and like Apatow
adjacent stuff,
like that era of guys,
I feel like was really,
it kind of shaped me
for better or worse.
We lose so many
of our big funny guys
to being like,
um,
brooding,
uh, Yes. Like Republican type guys. You've got to do like vince vaughn back in the day he was like he was like let's make some bad decisions like he was so
like funny and goofy and quick with it and now he's like just so like i feel like he does some
dramatic roles you see brawl in cell block 99 uh no but i heard it's good it's actually pretty good
yeah i've heard that yeah i feel like that's the it's the curse of the funny man i feel like you i feel like everybody's laughing for such
a long time and then you start to like hang out with like fucking i don't whoever you start to
hang out with you like meet al pacino and he tells you that you got to start doing some different
kinds of stuff yeah and then next thing now you're like trying to get your oscar movie off
now you're like oh i actually just want to direct you know is that happening to you yet no we're saying it was knowing this i'm like what's who's in your
ear i just feel like no no this is not happening people don't even really fuck with my comedy stuff
yet we're working on it it's it's a work in progress but yeah i just i just feel like that's
what that's what happened to jonah hill you know what i'm saying you like you do enough comedy
stuff you kind of that's what happened to like what we need know what I'm saying? You do enough comedy stuff. That's what happened.
We need Michael Cera back.
Michael Cera, you know he makes music.
Exactly.
And it's pretty good.
I have not listened to music. He makes some folk music that I am not mad at.
He lives not far from me.
In Brooklyn?
Yeah.
I see him around the neighborhood from time to time.
That's a good neighborhood.
I'd like to be over there.
You should.
Got the two of you guys?
Moved to New York.
You know I'm looking at places right now.
Oh, yeah.
You were telling me about this.
Yeah.
We'll see if it happens or not.
You should. I'm going back and forth. What are you going looking at places right now. Oh, yeah. You were telling me about this. Yeah, we'll see if it happens or not. You should.
I'm going back and forth.
What are you going to stay in Los Angeles?
Well, this city is disgusting.
Sure.
And it's expensive.
They all are.
No.
I mean, not Kansas City and not Pflugerville.
Shout out Pflugerville.
Mayor of Pflugerville, if you're listening, I want a key to the city.
I feel like I should.
Give Devin the key to Pflugerville.
I feel like I should have that.
What do you got to lose?
Also, Austin.
I'd like that as well.
Austin.
I'm trying to get two keys.
Hit him up. Yeah, please. Maybe we do Pflugerville, Austin, same weekend. Yeah. do you got to lose also austin i'd like that as well i'm trying to get two keys hit him up yeah please maybe we do flugerville austin same weekend
yeah well saturday sunday i can hit san marcos i could go to huddo come on yeah i could go to
bass drop no i don't want to go to bass drop this is local humor for nobody no i got a lot of fans
in austin give it to them do you really terry blacks why not say something like that yeah
i'm personally a salt lick guy if you really if you really know about the barbecue scene
you know about salt lick because you got to drive like 40 minutes outside the city yeah it's a byob
establishment oftentimes they'll have like a up-and-coming country artist playing there is
that the old white lady who's like 90 and she like does all the fire coals yes yeah exactly
they're okay yeah okay you're tapped in please okay what do you think of me if i've said it once
i've said it a thousand times i love caleb i love you you're one of the i you really are one of the
funniest people working right now i think you're so funny stop it no i'm a huge fan you know i i
really think the world of you stop it i want what do you you know i ask people on this podcast a lot
what's up what do you want like what is what is the goal bro truly all i all i want is to
you do a joke i'm gonna kill you no no no i'm gonna be no i'm gonna be really earnest i'm gonna be really earnest
true truly all i want out of this game is like to to have the freedom to do what i want that's
like all i really i want to work i want to work at shit that i like have to do until i only have
to work on what i want to do yeah do you know what i'm saying absolutely like and, you know, I'm still in that phase where it's like, now I just kind of
got to, I got to take a lot of jobs just cause it's like, that's where the money's at, you know,
but it's like not where my passion is. I want to get to the point where like, I'm just making the
exact stuff that I want to be making. And I don't have to like ask a bunch of people for like money
and like funding to figure it out. And I can like put my friends in the positions to like do the shit that they
want to do.
It's all like,
all I really care about.
Like,
it's not even like a,
like,
Oh,
I want to be a movie star.
Like,
Oh,
I want to like,
you know,
I want to like be the biggest standup work,
like whatever,
like however it comes,
like I'm cool with,
I like enjoy writing.
I enjoy acting.
I really enjoy standup.
Like I like it all,
but I really just want to, like, make shit with my buddies,
and I just want to, like, be rich enough that I can call my own shots.
That's all I really want out of this game.
That's the same.
I've said since I started, I don't ever need to play theaters.
I don't have, like, doing Madison Square Garden or something is not some big dream of mine.
My dream is to hang out with my friends whenever I want,
and if I want to get on a plane to go somewhere for a week i can do it
yeah i just want freedom that's all i want that's truly yeah and i feel like i feel like we're close
enough that you like see people who are like a little bit further than you but you're like oh
you got it you know what i'm saying i feel like we know people where it's like oh you've you're
actually free and so it feels close enough enough that I know it's possible.
But it's kind of like hitting that perfect pocket, though,
because then you also have friends.
I feel like we're at the point where you and I started out around the same time
and have known all the same people, I feel like.
Yeah.
And you also watch people go.
They get to that point where they got it, and then they keep going,
and then it gets bad again.
Whoa.
And then you're like, everyone knows you.
You can't do anything.
You're way too famous.
Every minute of your day is booked for an entire year out and then that when i watch my friends go
through that i'm like number one so happy for you i hope you're i hope this is what you want i hope
you're getting everything you want genuinely yeah but for me personally i go i want many rungs below
that for me yeah like i don't want to have my days booked out a year in advance that stresses me the
fuck out it's a delicate balance though yeah it's a delicate balance i'm trying to stop soon yeah i'm like right where i want to be i i kind of feel that
way i'm like i feel like i could go up like just like ever so slightly more yeah and then chill
out like i don't need to i don't need to be kevin hart no that seems maybe i shouldn't have said
that i'm about to like do a thing for him but like so maybe whatever you're not dissing him
you're just saying you don't personally need to be at that level of like,
I don't need to be,
I don't even want,
I don't yearn to be the biggest.
I just want to be like settled.
I just want,
I just want like shit to be taken care of.
That's all I really care about.
Yeah.
I want to pay my bills.
I want to hang out with people I like.
That's another thing.
I don't want to,
I don't want to hang out with people I don't want to hang out with.
And that's a big part of like,
I think what we're both saying is like,
we don't want to be like famous, famous. Yeah. I think that's a big part of, like, I think what we're both saying is, like, we don't want to be, like, famous famous.
Yeah.
I think that's what, because it's, like, we were talking about, like,
politicians, and it's, like, I don't know.
The more I've gotten around famous people, I'm, like, oh,
you're doing what a politician does more or less.
You're just not, like, having people vote for you.
You know, you are, like, so much of your job when you get around these,
like, really famous people, so much of their job is just, like,
making sure everybody likes them and, like, projecting you know what i'm saying like job the the job transcends your the
art you got into originally and it becomes the same job as a politician which is the job of
public approval yes your job is public opinion and polling yep i mean how i you know trying to
make movies and tv shows and stuff the number of conversations i have with producers and things
that are like oh that person doesn't have value anymore oh really oh yeah they've got lists they're
like these are the 10 actresses that we could really see making a movie like this and if they're
not on the list it's like there's really no sure it's not about who would do good at the role no
sometimes it is i'm not saying everyone's evil or something but i'm saying like it does you get to
this point where you are much like a politician you're a favorable versus unfavorable number yep and it
has to be in a certain percentage for them to think like even indie movies now you you try to
get an indie movie made i'm trying to get mine made right now and people start talking to you
about uh overseas favorability of your lead actress oh my god because they need to be able
to do an international distribution to make back four million bucks and you're like pardon like it
just this it's like yeah you become a politician
effectively it's your favorability and it's not votes but it is like how many people would turn
out to the the voting booth versus how many people would turn out to the theater yes it's still the
same how much can you activate people yeah it's uh i don't know i feel like in our industry too
though it's so much more i feel like it's so much more combustible because it's so much
like it's uh not nearly as easy to predict you know what i'm saying like i feel like every year
there is like like i genuinely feel like i'm like if you let me and my homies make some shit
people will like it you know what i'm saying like people will turn i know we're not the names yet i
guess we're saying the same thing yeah or is this like oh i i know maybe people don't know who we
are they don't know like you know we don't we don't necessarily have the bankability but i'm like i really i have so much
belief in me and my people that i'm like i think we could make something like that people would
love i think we can make something that would be like i think you easily would you know what i'm
saying yeah but it's just like i don't know it's it's it's kind of a catch-22 because you kind of
have to get famous for the people who make the decisions to like believe that you should have the resources to do the thing you want to do 100 it's the worst
part is being like i really should go to that party i really should i really shouldn't invest
in more people i should post that clip i should whatever i mean we've talked about this a bunch
we talk about this a lot but yeah the posting particularly and the like building of attention
for yourself my least favorite part of the game is, I just want to kind of make a movie, actually.
Yeah.
But no one wants to watch your movie if they don't know who you are.
Yeah.
It's not...
It being a good movie or a good script is like, okay.
It gets kind of beside the point.
Yeah.
That's the thing that starts to bug you out after a while.
Yeah.
You're like, oh, I could actually be the best, but I got to make people care about me before
anybody will buy into me being the best.
Whatever.
Well, it's going pretty well.
You're doing very well.
Things are going well for Devin.
Devin's on the up and up.
I think so.
Devin's stock is rising all the time.
I hope so.
I've got money in.
I'm in the ground floor.
Hey, you and me both.
I'm sticking around.
You've got an indie that's out right now that you're in.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's popping.
I feel like I'm seeing your face everywhere.
Yeah.
Well, good.
Keep spreading it
okay
put my face out there
no that movie is very fun
yeah that was a good one
I need to check it out
you haven't watched it
not yet
yeah
dear friend of mine
I'm a good friend
didn't catch it in theaters
yeah
and you saw all the sketches
that I did on SNL
yeah I watch every week
you see it all over
I watch every week
I say oh
what are they gonna put
what was your favorite
one that I did
when you had that wig on.
When you had that wig on.
So this is this past season.
Yeah.
You had that wig on and you were just, you were being so.
Yeah.
Like you couldn't, it was, you were like, you were like.
You were like a slightly different version.
Like you weren't playing yourself.
You were like a little bit of a different guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was like current. And the way you tackled the like news of the day in it as
well that dude i was like that's like some classic no you know what actually actually now that you're
talking about this i realized that i did see the short film that you were in yeah and you know
what i'm saying what i would what you brought to the table like as the friend yeah you know
what i'm saying yeah yeah yeah yeah you're not gonna get me
when i when i watched it i didn't even think gay friend i just thought friend but that's just the
that's the standpoint that i'm a progressive kind of guy yeah that's just who i am yeah what'd you
think of it bro i mean really the the levity that you brought right you know was sort of your you
were kind of you were kind of pithy right you know you kind of had some pithy you know sort of the levity that you brought to
a situation that could have been it could have been pithiness not i brought pithiness
not not the i think did i use that word delivery but it really but it really it really
rang true to me yeah i do i serve pithy in the thing you know we were talking about movies we
really liked i used to watch uh 40 year old virgin every day right that tracks that tracks
that was a great one hate that that. That was a big one.
Used to watch four-year-old version every single day with, like, my best friend who, like, lived down the street.
And that's where I learned what the word pithy means.
Oh, do they say it in that movie?
They say it.
I think we were watching the, like, uncut version.
Yeah.
So, like, sometimes there's parts that I realize that, like, everybody else didn't see because we were watching like the extended cut or whatever but yeah there is that scene where
paul rudd shout out shout out paul shout out paul kansas city boy uh brings steve carell all that
porn and uh he like is bringing him all this porn and then uh basically steve i'm not doing a good
job of telling the story no but basically uh steve carell's like not doing a good job of telling this story But basically
Steve Carell's like
Oh, I actually don't want all this porn
I don't want all this porn, this feels bad
I'm not into this
And Steve Carell
I don't want to tell this story
I have real ADD
And so sometimes when I'm in the middle of telling the story
I'm also thinking about two or three other different things.
And so then I kind of forget where I am in the story.
But all this to say, they start talking about everybody loves Raymond.
They start talking about everybody loves Raymond.
Yeah.
And Steve Kerr and Paul Rudd, because Paul Rudd's really sad because his girlfriend isn't into him.
Yeah.
And his girlfriend ends up being Mindy Kaling.
Yeah.
And he's like, yeah. He was like, like you know life's really not like everybody loves raymond it's not
like pithy dialogue that ends in 22 minutes life is like you know it's like a longer sadder version
of everybody loves raymond but it doesn't last 22 minutes it lasts forever yeah and that's where i
learned about the word pithy i really wish i didn't do this i really wish i didn't no i really
wish i didn't tell that anecdote. That one really didn't.
No, I think we'll cut it.
No, and you would be right to.
And you would be right to.
I think you should.
I really wish I didn't go on that anecdote.
No, I don't know.
I thought the nine minutes where you recapped 40-year-old virgin, like one scene of it was,
I thought that was good for the part.
Yeah, no, I tried to recap one scene and I did it really poorly just so I could explain why I knew the one word, the definition of one word.
I thought it was compelling.
That Paul Rudd said 16 years ago.
I thought it was quite compelling.
I'm sorry, So True listeners.
Well, speaking of So True, what's something that's so true to you?
Wow, wow.
What's your So True?
Wow.
You know, you think this is a game to me, but I'm.
No, you did your research. I'm locked in, clocked in. I know the master's degree. You got on the Wikipedia. You saw so true. Wow. You know, you think this is a game to me, but I'm... No, you did your research.
I'm locked in, clocked in.
I know the master's degree.
You got all the Wikipedia.
You saw where I was from.
I know.
No, my producer sends me a little document about every guest.
That's really nice.
Chance.
Shout out Chance, who produces the pod.
He's not here.
Oh, okay.
Shout him out in the camera.
He's in LA.
But, you know, I take this very seriously, Devin.
My listeners know.
The truthers know.
No, I appreciate that.
I'm not kidding around.
Thank you for being serious about it.
What's so true to you?
What's so true to me?
I don't know.
Should I do a joke or should I be sincere?
Oh, that's hard to say, huh?
What do people normally do on here?
Haven't watched the show, okay.
Not watching my stuff.
Again, a pretty good friend of mine.
You can go either, dude.
You can go sincere.
I feel like we've had a good mix, huh?
What's so true to me?
We're all going to be all right.
That's what's so true to you?
We're all going to be all right.
Do you think?
Well, I mean, not every single one of us, but like me and you.
You'll be okay.
Me and you, we're going to be all right.
I don't know.
No, actually, I think all of us and all of our artist friends,
I think we're going to be all right.
Yeah.
I think we're going to be all right.
I like have like a, do you ever feel this way?
I have like simultaneously have like a great deal,
like I'm impossibly pessimistic
and I think all of it is ass,
but I also feel like we're going to,
like it's all going to turn out the way that it's supposed to.
I just think things turn out the way they're supposed to.
I feel very zen about it,
despite the fact that I hate it all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It all being.
Just the,
this,
the industry that we're, the game that we're doing.
The grind and the hustle.
The grind and the hustle.
I'm not really into it, but I do think that it's like I think it's going to yield something really nice.
I think we're going to look back in five years and be like, wow, look at those two.
Yeah, I think so.
I think also regardless of what happens in the more technical sense, like getting to be your friend is what makes it all worth it.
You know?
Me and Devin. I get to be Devin's friend. That's kind of worth it you know me and devon i get to be
devon's friend that's kind of worth it i can't i can't feel i can't handle this come on i can't
don't look away from no he's been i do feel that was you are you you want to shy away from my love
but it's here for you yeah it's true i think the friends i think making the friends that we make in
this makes it all worth it i think like you think about the number of people you know you know
all the people you love yeah gary and alex my boys and all the people that you have like met
and love through comedy all of our mutual friends yeah it's like that's when i was really trying to
decide if i was going to go do politics or i try to do comedy yeah my whole thing was like even if
i fail if i get nothing in comedy if i never sell a ticket if i never make a dollar off of it
i will spend my 20s hanging out with really cool people yeah and then that's fine
that's a that's a great story yeah and i have a bunch of lovely people in my life and then i'll
go to law school or whatever yeah and i am hoping that i won't do that uh still at this point i'd
love to just keep doing this but so crazy if you ended up going to law school what if if you told
me you were going to i'd be like mad at you i got pretty close to applying to grad school three
weeks ago. No.
Yeah.
That recently?
Yeah.
Well, cause I was in Paris and I met someone who was in grad school in Paris and I thought
maybe I should do that.
Wait a second.
What's up?
Speaking of Paris.
Go ahead.
Can we talk about it?
Wish we would.
Can we?
Okay.
Bring it up.
When you post, okay.
Caleb posted on his close friends on Instagram.
He was like, just, he was like, just got wrapped up in a situation ship over here on my European trip and I was like you got to explain what's up and he wouldn't explain it to me
in the DMs but can we can we talk about it on air or we got it we got to take it off mic
gay people
gay people gay men yeah it's not working out, is it?
Gay men
Not for me to say, but I'll respect your opinion on it
What do you think? Gay men?
It's not going well
Shout out to Alex
Shout out to my guy Alex
Alex is a gay guy in the most technical sense
Definitionally Alex English
Sure, you're a gay guy
In the most important ways, I would say
Yeah, he's doing all the stuff
He is
But um
I don't know, dude
Gay guys are horrendous.
Gay guys are guys that are gay, that are sociopaths, that are, I don't know.
My whole point, I think, is like my love life is a joke and I'm the punchline.
And it's no matter what continent I'm on, because I do that sometimes.
I try to play with the continent.
Yeah.
I go, oh, I'll go to this continent for a little while.
And then there's a different language,
but it's the same kind of energy.
Yeah.
And then it's I'm still there, so then I'm part of it.
Okay.
And then the coolest thing about gay guys
is the way we have casual sex.
Awesome, yeah.
That's the coolest thing we do.
It seems fun.
It's awesome.
You just get on your phone.
Someone wants to have sex with you.
That's amazing.
God bless.
God bless.
But everything after that, for me, has been tough.
Yeah.
The relationships, the dates.
So, yes, Europe, I had a situation-ship.
Okay.
God love him.
I wish him well.
Okay.
Do you think it's over, or do you think you'll ever find each other again?
If I know anything about my love life, exactly when I don't want to hear from this guy again...
He'll be back? I'll hear from him. what country does he live in he lives in france okay
okay and you know i actually really don't know anything about your dating life well we actually
don't really i remember when i said you were about to go on a date the last when i saw you in kansas
city or no you would just come from a date. Yeah. Remember that? What was that guy about?
You were not into it.
I remember you saying he was like really hot but really dumb.
Oh, he was really dumb.
Oh, my God, that guy.
Yeah, he like, yeah.
Well, do you know what happened?
I haven't told this on here before.
Do you remember what I told you about him?
He had really bad politics?
Well, not even bad politics.
That I could work with.
That I could maybe mold him you know i could manipulate him
into being correct he we were at dinner really really hot guy in kansas city and i'm always
looking for a kansas city husband okay we're at dinner and he says um he says i love ethel kane
okay you know how gay people are and i go and i go sure sure i love ethel kane as well i go
you know her music's great also she's got great politics. She's very leftist, you know?
And I go, she's got great politics.
She's very leftist.
These are the words I said.
Ethel Kane, great politics, very leftist, I say to him.
And he goes, he bites his finger and looks confused.
He goes, and I go, oh, did you not know that about her politics?
And he says to me, this man that about her politics and he says to me
this man 27 years old he says to me i'm just trying to remember if that's the good one or the bad one
you hate you hate to see that he was trying to to remember if leftist was the good one or the bad one at 27 years old on a date with me.
Yeah.
Now.
You don't like that.
Obviously conversion therapy is not something we support.
Not me.
But at a certain point, not everybody can be allowed to be gay around me.
And now you're sounding like Alex.
Do you know?
And now you're on your Alex type of time.
I'm on the Alex of it all.
I mean, good lord.
I'm trying to remember if that's the good one or the bad one.
I mean, this is a haunting thing to say to another grown up.
Yeah.
I almost offered to cut up his food for him.
I was like, what are you talking about?
It was funny because like
You were like
Oh I'm
Me and Caleb were both in Kansas City
And we were like planning to hang out
And he was like
I'm going on this date
And I was like
I'm not about to see Caleb
Caleb is about to be gone
This is going to be it
Yeah
I thought I was going to be in for the night
And I saw you immediately after that date
And you told me that
And I was like okay
I stand corrected
We played pool
Yeah
I believe I beat you
You did.
I scratched on the eight ball. Yeah.
There's no need to get into the details.
It wasn't
an outright loss. We were, but
if I remember right, we both were like really
ass. We both were doing very
badly. I think you tend
to think in very granular ways
how the victory was achieved
or whatever came before it before you're a big picture
i'm a headlines kind of big picture guy zooming out 10 000 miles you zooming out yes i'm a big
thinker sure i'm like an elon musk who i love how many kids how many you got as many kids as him oh
i wish yeah i would love to have a couple kids running around me too that's one thing straight
guys really good to do yeah yeah it's less yeah. It's less of a to-do.
Well, because you guys just accidentally have a couple kids.
And I'm shocked I haven't at this point.
Like, I'm really...
I would love that for you.
I mean, now if I had one, it would be, like, very...
Like, now I'm in a stage in my life where it, like, is reasonable.
You'd be a father.
You know what I'm saying?
Do you want kids?
Absolutely.
Yeah?
Especially, like, the older...
I'm in my 30s now.
I'm in my 30s now, and I in my 30s now and I feel like.
Are you?
God damn, you're old.
How old are you?
Caleb, I'm four years older than you.
Sorry.
Oof.
I did not know that.
I did not know that.
I'm four years older than you.
I thought we were about the same situation.
What year were you born in?
I was born in 1995.
I'm four years older than you.
Yeah.
91?
Yes.
Ooh. What? You good? This is 1995. I'm four years older than you. Yeah, 91? Yes. What?
You good?
This is crazy.
Are you okay?
It's crazy.
The people, as a person who was born in 1991, the people who were born in 1995 specifically,
you guys really piss me off, man.
You guys really, really piss me off.
What are we doing?
Because it's like we were born in the same presidential cycle.
Yeah.
We were born in the-
Barely.
Yes, barely. Barely. But we both we were born in the same presidential cycle yeah we were born in the early bear yes barely but we both will still we're still born in the clinton administration yeah and you guys talk you guys talk to me like i was born in like the set you guys talk to me like
i was born when jimmy carter was the president yeah and i'm like truly i was in preschool when
you were born we're really we're the same age yeah but you guys talk to me like i am well some
sort of a grandfatherly character here's the deal it's really and you were technically letter of the law born in the clinton presidency that's right
however when i was born when i came out of the womb yeah you had ideas about the world already
i wouldn't say that's true you had philosophies you could advocate for yourself not in a big way
you were tying your own shoes if i wanted like spaghetti or fruit like i could you
were in pflugerville running around was i yeah i guess i was in pflugerville you're running around
in texas you had a whole life before me and then i showed up yeah and so it's a different thing
it's crazy it's crazy this happens a lot and i'm like we gotta we'll work on it we got i got a
segment for you.
What's that?
I got some true or false questions for you.
I thought we were almost done.
You ever seen me do this before?
What's that?
No.
Yeah, you don't watch the show, huh?
No.
Damn.
But I'm going to start.
But after today, I'm going to watch this episode at least.
All I do is love and support you.
And I can't get any.
Every week I'm tuning in to television Saturday Night Live.
To see me put the wig on?
Once you get that wig on. To see me put the wig on. Oh, once you get that wig on. To see me put the wig on? Once you get that wig on.
To see me put the wig on?
Oh, once you get that wig on.
To see me put the wig on and do one of my.
I will say, every time you hop on screen in that wig, I go, they made the right choice.
What was the line that really stuck with you?
What was the line that I said that really?
Well, of course, the classic one.
Which one?
Live from New York.
When I see you do that, I go, I never could have done that.
They really got the right guy.
Hey, this is a true or false segment, Devin.
I'm going to read you some statements.
You're going to tell me as quickly as you can if you think they're true or false.
Okay.
Okay, my friends on the couch are going to keep track of how many he gets right.
And hey, if you get 10 or more correct, I'm going to give you 50 U.S. dollars.
Wow, that's huge.
You didn't come to Midtown for nothing.
Thank you.
Because that's how much the Uber costs to get over here here that's how much uber cost to get over here
so thank you for all right abraham lincoln was a competitive wrestler before his political career
i'm gonna go true true the first book ever written on a typewriter was the adventures of tom sawyer
false true a giraffe's heart is the same size as a human's a what a giraffe's heart is the same
size as a human's true uh false they. They're two feet long. Fuck.
Austin, Texas was originally called Waterloo.
I think that might be true.
That's true. Shakespeare invented the name Miranda.
False.
That's true. What? Strengths is
the longest English word with only one vowel.
Strengths.
False. That's true.
What? Texas State University's mascot
is Boomer the Bobcat uh that is true that
is false boco the bobcat oh sure you okay once uh a bear enlist oh a bear once enlisted in the
polish army in the polish polish army and made it to the rank of corporal i believe that that's
true that's true facebook is older than myspace oh let's go true. That's false.
The 2000 Olympics took place in Sydney, Australia.
That is true.
That is true.
The longest NFL field goal ever recorded was 66 yards long.
That feels true.
That is true.
Rollerblading is the number one cause of death in Finland.
Oh.
True.
False.
It's heart disease.
Tinder was originally a way for tennis players to meet doubles partners. False. False. It's heart disease. Tinder was originally a way for tennis players to meet doubles partners.
False.
False.
As of 2022, Madagascar has a larger population than Australia.
False.
True.
What?
Wow.
Four is the only number spelled with the same amount of letters as itself.
True.
That is true.
How many did you get?
Dang. I don't know how many like I don't think there's like 15
in there or something it was a big list
yeah I even missed the one about the university
that I went to yeah but it's
not we weren't a sports school like that for undergrad
we for undergrad yes when you were you
did uni yeah when I was at uni when I
was at university
damn I really wanted to give you 50 bucks
but um how many did i have to
get those ubers uh 10 it's a tough game but we run a tough show you understand you have like two
do you have like two or three more you could throw at me just like off the i'll ask you some
jabookis okay he's coming in here next i'll ask you some of his if you're if you're interested
jabooki's coming in why don't you let us do a joint episode i the people could not they could
not handle that trying to see. They could not handle that.
That's the only thing we're trying to see.
Oh, wait.
These are.
Oh, wait.
No, I can't do that with you.
You came late.
I got to.
We got to move.
We got to keep it moving.
Jaboukie's getting here soon.
We got to do Patreon.
Okay.
Let's do Patreon.
Hey, if you want to hear more from Devin, you should subscribe to the Patreon.
Devin, is there anything you want to plug to the people?
No, I have absolutely nothing going on right now, honestly.
I just came off tour, so I don't have that to plug.
How was the tour?
It was nice.
It was tiring, but it was nice it was tiring but
it was nice it is tiring it was really yeah you yeah you know when you just like don't go home
for like weeks at a time yeah you're just like living out that suitcase you're just with the
boys just going to like ubers and hotels and yeah we went to a buca de beppo like was living like
that where uh we went to buca de beppo in seattle yeah it's different than i remember it being yeah worse truck club
bus another club another club hotel club exactly and my girlfriend came with she came zo came to
san francisco and uh portland and i think she kind of thought it was going to be like on some
vacation type shit and it was just like nope we just we landed at two o'clock the show's at seven
we got time to like set our stuff down at the hotel get a meal and then it's time for shows and then you wake up in the morning
and it's kind of like you know it's always like time to go back to work when you're on tour it's
tough where'd you guys play in san francisco san francisco we did cobs fun yeah that's fun i liked
it i like san francisco a lot i like it i like it a lot i on tour though portland was probably my
favorite city did you guys do Helium?
No, we did the Aladdin Theater Okay, Aladdin Theater
Hey, the boys are doing good
I like to see it
Well hey, thanks for being on
I think the world of you