So True with Caleb Hearon - Gianmarco Soresi Tells Secrets

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

We got a real treat for y’all! This week’s guest is the very funny Gianmarco Soresi! Gianmarco and Caleb talk everything from Broadway musicals, performing for a former President, what they don’t like about each other, and more! Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes! https://youtube.com/@sooootruepod?si=2ajHyA0FLuYHPlGxSee Caleb Live! https://calebhearon.komi.io/   Join our Patreon for an exclusive extended interview with Gianmarco and other bonus content! https://patreon.com/SoTruePodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink    Follow Gianmarco! @gianmarcosoresi Follow the Show! @sooootruepod   Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud Recorded at Bad Ladder Productions in Los Angeles, CASee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

they showed Eric Adams of New York and they just presented him like he was someone to listen to and go oh interesting yeah and and I'm like you need to show the clip of when he was asked give one word to describe your year and he said New York and that's not it that's not where it stops I saw you on a podcast recently actually I wanted to read something to you but I saw you on a podcast recently, actually. I wanted to read something to you, but I saw you on a podcast with two homosexual men. And they asked if you were gay, if you thought you'd be a top or a bottom. They said, which one of us would you have sex with?

And one of the caveats was one was a top, one was a bottom. And I said, well, that influences it more than which one of you do I want to spend three minutes with. Right, it's like more of what experience do I want to have. Three minutes, okay. Yikes, tough to hear. It's my first, it would be my first time. It would be my first time. Based on other first times, it's not going to be like a big rollicking.

Who do I want to spend 45 incredible seconds with? And you said that you would be versed, which is a, I always refer to being versed as the bottoms plea deal. Verses what bottoms say. Everyone's versed until it's time to top and then there's a lot of bottoming going on. Yeah. So I've heard. So I've heard.

Which one of those guys would you fuck? Come on. I want to get vindication for those guys. Well, first of all, I believe I said Colton. Did you pick? I didn't watch the whole thing. No, I don't think, I think they were happy

knowing that I said both. How could I choose? I must have sex with both of you. You really played it well. I leaned in. It shocks, or bent over, whatever you want to say.

John Marco. I just told Beth Stelling this on her episode of So True that it defies, and it's true about you also, it defies everything I know about the world that you're not gay. I'm shocked that you're not gay. Because you know a lot of feminine men. It's not about being feminine. It's about being, there's a charm. There's an essence. There's the way you're sitting right now. There's a lot of things, the musical theater of it all. There's a lot that makes me think

we missed out on John Marco. He should have been a gay man sure the community lost so i i went through this i guess you called a phase but in middle school certainly no one was uh was out in my middle school we had one teacher who was out oh and one time he saw me dancing before a class and he said and this was like a sort of christian echoes private little school and he said to marco don't take of christian echoes private little school and he said to marco don't take this the wrong way that's the gayest thing i've ever seen i don't think i don't think he should say that sure yeah sure but i was the closest thing to another gay friend he had at the school so i went through and i don't know what it was but i went through kind of a

phase where i would like very uh over the top flamboyantly like hit on other guys in the class. Like just that was like that was my comedic. That was my clowning. Oh, I remember the era. Yeah. And I'd like wink at them and be like, hey. And they go. And that was like there's a big it was a it was a phase.

Yeah. And it ended because I went to some kind of school dance and there was a very kind of conservative uh quiet the band teacher his name was dr lewis doctor he made us call him doctor of course yeah and we were too young to say well let's discuss what definitions of words relax and why they're important and uh uh so we went to this school dance and he was my advisor, kind of homeroom teacher. This is eighth grade. And at the dance, I said to him like, Dr. Lewis, save me a dance. Oh.

Oh, that's not. To be clear. Oh, don't. To be clear. Clearly the teacher-student barriers had been broken way before this chaotic school. I want to talk to most of the teachers at your school, I think, about what's appropriate and why the students feel comfortable. So I get home to my dad's house.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. You turned to this man and said, save me a dance. You did that. Put that over the top. Not like, hey, Dr. Lewis, save me a dance. It was publicly, Dr. Lewis, save me a dance. It was him. It was funny because he was so something.

Yeah. You know, straight or closet. Who knows? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I get home, and it's like 10 p.m., and the phone rings. The landline. No, not the landline. The landline. I pick it up. It's Dr. Lewis.m. And the phone rings. The landline. No, not the landline. A landline.

I pick it up. It's Dr. Lewis. Is your father there? No. Yes. He's mucking on the other end. Let me talk to your fucking dad right now. No, he goes, oh, he's not there?

Great. Let's keep talking. No, that's not what happened. No, no, no. That's not what happened no no no no i was like wait wait hold on you thought i was gonna set this up super comedically and then turn real hard yeah and uh he he i got my dad and my dad is like he doesn't care about societal rules at all he's the right guy to get this call yeah and so my uh the teacher told him what happened and and my dad was like who the fuck do you think i give a fucking shit about this you call my home

as i'm putting my daughter it just reamed him out reamed him out king and he's like i know my son's gay shut the fuck up and the next um on monday this was like a friday and then on monday i get to school and like someone else is there and they say hey hey, so I know Dr. Lewis is your advisor, but I know there was some kind of confrontation over the weekend. We're going to, you know, you can be part of my advice. So like I basically got plucked out of his advisorship because I had made him whatever it was. Horny. You made him so horny. But that's the question.

You turned him on. I am so horny. But that's the question. That's the question. Was this so inappropriate or did this make him so uncomfortable because he was either homophobic or felt something and he was trying to repress him? Yeah. And I'm just like, come on. Well, I think he was a chomo. I'm sorry to say.

I think he was like, I can't. This kid can't be turning me on like this. And then he calls your dad and kicks you out of homeroom. What a weirdo. I think they pulled me out. I wasn't in trouble. Like the school, I think, was like, we don't want to touch this.

When this kid comes out of the closet in a couple years, he's going to report that we were homophobic. So they treated it very delicately. The gay teacher was like, put him in my homeroom. I'll let him do his little gay dances in there. I love that. I just feel like the seeds of whatever it is about me, it goes all the way back. It's early planted.

Yeah. Well, it's a compliment in my camp. In my house, it's a compliment. Sure. Sometimes people will say like, oh, you're gay baiting. And I'm like, well, I'm just the worm. I don't think you're gay baiting and i'm like well i'm just the worm i don't think you're making enough money to be accused of that yet i think you'd have to have like several houses to be like sufficiently accused of gay baiting sure and that's a

profiteering thing and i think they can feel when the switch happens when their advisor said hey yeah if you wear this overalls with just this loose. One nipple out. Ticket sales will go up 20%. We did the math. You'd be doing stadiums. Yeah. Yeah, if you would just do a little bit extra. Yeah. I have something to tell you.

Tell me, please. Chance, our producer, did a level of research on you that I think is actually troubling. And he put this... You first hit on a teacher in third grade. Yeah, he knew about that. He knew about Dr. Actually, Dr. Lewis, come on out.

He sashays on out. He's like, you helped me find myself. He's like me and my husband talk about you every day. No, this is a chance. So Chance sent me this information on you on February 7th, 2009. You started like a like a procedural. Sure. And that's how it's given to me uh-huh

you posted on facebook this status i sang in a chorus for a dc christmas special and bush was there on the washington post website was a picture of mr and mrs bush and me singing with the silliest face scary seeing the president up close in status. What did you mean by that? Scary because I knew then he was a war criminal. And I said, I'm scared what I'm going to say to this guy when I see him face to face. You were infatuated. You said, my afternoon with Mr. and Mrs. Bush.

It was, I remember Rascal Flatts sang. Oh, fuck yes. Yeah, they did. What did they sing, do you remember? They sang, you're the best Bush and you're the best, and we agree with it all.

No, they would never do that. I mean, this was a long time ago. I don't know if life, I didn't really know them, but I knew they were good when I saw them. They probably, they probably did Mayberry or something.

Sure. Mayberry, you know Mayberry? Not at all. I miss Mayberry. You know Mayberry? Not at all. I miss Mayberry sitting on a porch drinking ice cold cherry Coke. You don't know that one? No. That's a good song. It sounds good.

It's actually about how- And we've given out two of you two, and it was great. Yeah. It's about weapons of mass destruction and how they were there. Uh-huh. So if they did that one, it would make a lot of sense. It is humiliating when I think about, like, my grandfather, and he was a, or my step-grandfather technically,

but he was a Catholic priest, left the priesthood to marry my grandma. But he had a picture of him with Clinton that was like, you know, that was the thing. I met Bill Clinton. I met Bill. Like, in the middle of his run of rapes. Like, that's when I met this guy. And here's a picture. Yeah, alleged.

And I'm like, at a certain, thank you. Just let's not get you sued, alleged. But to think that at that age, the respect for power, the automatic like what an honor that I was just in the room with this person for a second. I get it at this age. I was a little boy.

Yeah, but adults. Adults. We don't have that anymore. I don't think. Yes, we do. Do you think? It's just the circles that we are in that think, yes, we do. And who is doing it?

Do you think there's people that are like, I guess you're right. Come on, we see the comedians posting pictures with Biden all the time. The moment they get in a room with Nancy Pelosi, suddenly it's like a celebration. She's wearing a Kente cloth. Get in there with Nancy and her Kente cloth. Well, I guess there is that. I will say the fundraising emails I get from Joe Biden,

I go, Oh, people are really falling for this. He's going, come have ice cream with me and Jill. And people are going, yeah, they love it.

Well, I saw my, my mom was watching the, she like, if I go see my mom and she, I love her, but I get MSNBC is kind of like, that's just the baseline. I'm just getting those talking points from my own mother.

And they showed Eric Adams of New York. And they just presented him like he was someone to listen to and go, oh, interesting. And I'm like, you need to show the clip of when he was asked, give one word to describe your year. And he said, New York. And that's not it. That's not where it stops. He goes, New York. He goes, I'm paraphrasing.

What a world. I'm not paraphrasing that much, though. You know, one day you could go to a bodega. The next day a plane could fly into the World Trade Center. You never know what's going to happen here in New York. He's right. He's right. That did happen in New York. It's not like he made it up.

One day, you go to a bodega, and one day, those big, beautiful buildings did fall. That did occur. But to be able to present him and my mom to have not seen that clip, you should watch that clip every time before you hear what then he had next to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just as a reminder. This is true. Contextualizing.

Yeah. Yeah. And so what did she think of him? Was she team him? She's just team, you know, we were getting all the debates where she was like, you know, but the colleges, but like they broke a window. And I was like, you know, the college protest going like, they broke a window and it's too chaotic.

And I, I was like, I was like, let's go back to all the protests and where would you be? Yeah. In that time. Yeah.

And every single one, you know, it's just the thought of like, no, I'd be on the good, I'd be on the right side for that one. Yeah. Just this one.

And there always has been, that's the thing about these things, these things that I'm not understanding and can never understand because I did a lot of protesting in college and it was the same thing then. Ours were mostly... I approached and I said, Bush should get a third term. Yeah, I was like, get him back

in there. I was going nuts. Get him back in there. I was like, he saw me sing. He said I did well. I'm a single issue voter and it's do they think I'm a good performer? John Marco, there was a big thing when I was in college. We had a lot of big protests when I was in college, mostly around Black Lives Matter because the Michael Brown situation in St. Louis happened while I was in college in Missouri. a lot of big protests when I was in college, mostly around Black Lives Matter because the Michael Brown situation in St. Louis happened

while I was in college in Missouri. So we were protesting and it was big national news. Way to brag about how young you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Michael Brown protests happened when I was a sophomore. Shut up.

But there was a big thing because when Trump got elected, they invited specifically Missouri State's Corral to come and sing at his inauguration. And it was a fucking war on campus. I wrote an op-ed in the student paper, I'm pretty sure, didn't I, Chance? About how it was unethical for us to go and we shouldn't be there.

And then the university president responded to my op-ed with an op-ed of his own. Wow. It was a big, we were all up in arms about it. And they went and did it, those fucking cowards. They all went and, even like my leftist friends who were in Corral were like, it's an honor even still. It's about the office, not the man. I know.

I wonder how they're feeling about it today because I feel vindicated. Absolutely. Well, just again, to be clear with this Facebook message, I think I was in, oh, maybe I was older. I was- 2009, you were pretty old. You were probably a- Shut the fuck up.

I was – Oh, no. Seven, six, 16? Yeah. You were old enough to know better. No, you weren't. I'm kidding. But it's also –

It's very – Like when someone like that is there, if you look up in the rafters, there are gunmen. Oh, yeah. And so he comes close to you and you're like – I was like, please don't shake my hand because I know there's here. Yeah. There's gunmen in here too, though. Oh.

Yeah, look up. They're up there. Wow. Not enough budget for like a full wall. No. Somehow that's where all the money went, I guess. Yeah, all went to the snipers. In France, if you do a show in Paris, you don't make any money because you have to pay

for a security guard that walks with you. And it's because they had a shooting at a concert a couple years ago. So like you have to pay a lot of extra money for an individual bodyguard to walk with you. At the show? Yeah. And you're like, not me. How would you like to die? I've always thought about like, do I want one of the dying on stage?

I'd like to get killed by a fan and I think I will. You mean like, oh, I thought like a little like i say one final joke everyone laughs some people stand and then i sit back and i oh you die peacefully you meant like a fan i think that shanks you i think so yours was a really sweet version my version is i think a fan uh comes up and jabs me with some kind of sedative and then three or four of them drag me away and then they hold me for a little bit in a misery situation. So the whole audience was in on it.

They're letting this... No, this is after the show. This is a place where I didn't have... This isn't France, so I don't have a security guard. This is like I'm walking back to the Aloft Hotel where I'm staying. And yeah, they get me and then they have me for a little bit.

It's like misery. They're like, write us jokes and then they probably kill me. Oh, it was more complicated. Yeah. It's like a whole story that I have. I think it would then they probably kill me. Oh, it was more complicated. Yeah. It's like a whole story that I have. I think it would be kind of cool. I just want to go in an interesting way, you know?

Yeah. And you don't have a... I think my way is interesting. I'm sorry. Just gently on stage. I want to be kidnapped for years and forced to write jokes. You want to go gently on stage? Is that your actual truth about how you actually want to die?

I think like it starts on stage. Yeah. Oh, no, it's coming. And then they crowd surf me to a bed. Yeah. And there's like there's some more, you know, a little more closer loved ones. Yeah. But in the distance, I still see all of them.

Yeah. The bigger, you know, distant loved ones. Yeah. And yeah, that's how I want to go. I think I was thinking there was a really, I was in Berlin for New Year's one year

and they were shooting fireworks at us really intensely and Ali was there. Ali, remember? They shoot fireworks at you in such a crazy way.

It's like people are actually, could maybe get hurt and one of our friends was very reasonably like, I'd like to get off these, we were scootering through the city and getting fireworks.

And one of our friends very reasonably was like, I'd like to get off the scooters and i was so annoyed with her i was like oh my god like when we used to be fun you know and i think it's because i was like this would be an interesting way to go you know what i mean sure firework injury in berlin that's a cool way to go yeah but you don't get to see you don't get to the joy of the headline you don't get to look at it go that's crazy well sure you. You just feel your body go different places for half a second. And that's the final moment. So, Marco, sure you get to look onto the earth after you die.

If you're doing things right. Sure. If that was the restriction God said, how'd you die? Boring. Boring, bye. I would like that. That's hell is just people telling the worst stories about how they died. I was sick. Yeah. Just stage four cancer, I'm like that. That's hell is just people telling the worst stories about how they died. I was sick.

Yeah. Just stage four cancer. I'm falling asleep. Do something interesting. You're like in a bed. One of the most, when I did your podcast, one of the times I did your podcast, I get asked to come on John Marcos podcast a lot. Thank you.

Thank you. One of the times I did, we had a conversation about religion that people really liked. We talked about me losing my faith. What is your deal with God? I ask people on here a lot. What do you think about God? Oh, God. I mean, I'm definitely atheist-leaning.

Okay. But I don't want to be. Yeah, okay. Interesting. But I'm not an atheist, but I'm a millennial you know i'm just like i think there's something yeah that's the but but if you go any further yeah you articulate one thing that's something i go jesus fucking christ the psychopaths i think they know what they're talking about i'm ready to come up with examples for me the biggest obstacle to the belief in god is the

problem of evil that's like the philosophically like the the one of the reasons people go how could there be evil and suffering yeah and just just pain what's the theodicy dilemma yeah the the three-pronged like i always kind of fuck this up but it's the theodicy dilemma is i think it was howard kushner and it's um there uh god is all good uh god is all good god is all good. God is all good. God is all knowing and God is all powerful. Knowing and powerful. I don't have trouble with the concept of something that's knowing and powerful. Yeah. But I think like sometimes I think, you know, like Descartes said, we have souls, but no animals have souls.

And I'm like part of overcoming the problem evil you really have to get rid of thinking about animals yeah because the suffering that they endure is so unbelievable yeah that there's no way a god they can't be so they can't be meaningful because if it are then the world is so evil and we're so evil is the suffering the animals go through that bad I saw this video today on twitter it's like these uh orca whales they do this thing of seals like you know on an ice patch the three orca whales they go underneath together yeah makes a big wave fucking knocks the seal off and then they eat the seal yeah if the seal matters god cannot be that's not as bad as working a 9-to-5 job.

That's not as bad as clocking in at an ad agency and doing billable hours for Colgate. Three orca whales? Imagine if we're sitting here right now and suddenly go, whoa, and we fall in the ocean and an orca whale eats all of us. It's over in an instant. But every day to get up and go to a job and pay bills is so much worse than that. Humans have it worse than any animal.

So that made you stop believing in God, having a nine to five? Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. I mean, no, it started before that. But I'll say if I had anything left in the tank, it would have been totally depleted. The alarm goes off. You're just like, oh, my God. So heaven is fake.

The heaven is fucking fake, dude. Wait. I had a day job in Chicago when I was first starting out in comedy right after college where I would show up late all the time. Like I would show up late constantly. Yeah. And eventually my boss, she was really sweet. I really liked her.

She was a good boss and I was a bad employee. And she was right. She was right to clock that but uh like the fifth time i showed up late in a single month she pulled me aside and was like hey i'm just you said you overslept again do you have like an alarm clock and if not is there a barrier to you like maybe getting one like she was gonna buy me an alarm clock so that i would come to work on time because i was a personality hire sure and she was like all we need you to do is show up on time really anything after that we can handle and i was like i can't i can't do it i can't do it i have a friend who's like clinically late in a way where

you go i don't think they can help it i think something's and and i have things and this is just their thing and I'll just I'll just lie about when we need to meet and I need to make the adjustment. Yeah. I need to show up 15 minutes late. I've got friends like that. Yeah. And you have to say hey dinner's at 630 and then you just know we're all showing up at 7. What's annoying is when you do that and then they show up on time. Yeah. And it's like the one time you've ever showed up on time in your life you called my bluff immediately. And they're having the same conversation with their friend that you're the late one all the time you're like

well i was just trying to account for you matthew broussard had some joke about the thing with zoom meetings is if you're late to a zoom meeting you have no excuse you're just saying i don't respect you enough to be on time and it's such a good joke people really do push i will say zoom meetings like you can tell the people that are getting on five minutes late just to avoid small talk they'll be like sorry i was running from another thing i'm like running from another thing you were sitting in the same spot in front of your screen just end it and come over here i come to i go to therapy uh later and i i think that's how i know that i've disinvested from an aspect of it i think doing zoom therapy is really uh gradually taken so much away from it.

What are you working on in therapy? What are your big things? Tova asked me this this morning. What are you working on in therapy? What are you working on in therapy? I'm being serious. Me and Tova want to know. Sure.

Well, I'm not going to say all of it. Well, say all of it. Come on. It's a good – your clicks would be huge. It's so whiny. It's just self-worth stuff. Self-worth. Yeah. That's interesting.'s so it's it's just self-worth stuff self-worth yeah that's interesting i wouldn't peg you as a self-worth guy like lack of for sure that's i knew what you meant i'm saying yeah i would think you have self-worth you you're really working on that a

lot though i i just i think i struggle uh i see other people's talent as proof of my lack of interesting yeah yeah yeah you're so talented i was actually literally just thinking that i think I see other people's talent as proof of my lack of interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're so talented. I was actually literally just thinking that I think it's really cool that, cause you were saying you were Netflix is a joke fest is going on this week.

Who knows when this episode will come out, we bank them. But the, we're right now we're recording during the festival and you were doing, you're, you're doing standup, which you're extremely prolific at. You're a very good joke writer and performer.

You're also doing your podcast, which is a lot of fucking work. Trust me then you're doing sketch you're doing so much stuff there are people who don't even do one of those things well sure you're doing all of them well and you're in therapy for self-worth like the sketch team yeah they're all so talented and i i was just i was just going through a bad wave yeah and uh back in in the day, that sketch team, it would trigger me. This was before I did stand-up. They were so good. Yeah.

I would just have this moment of, like, I am terrible. I don't belong. I'm here for whatever reasons, but, like, I'm not actually good. Yeah. And Russell, my co-host on The Downside. I love Russell. And you've never seen him do like sketch and like he is like a chris farley is one of his favorites and there's

just it's that element of just explosive talent yeah and and and it's struggled so i just see it and i just go i shouldn't be up here yeah i should be producing at you know to to help other people get that light and that's just the constant voice and it just it flares up here yeah i should be producing at you know to to help other people get that light and that's just the constant voice and it just it flares up especially when i'm doing something like sketch which is not my primary you know i have to do acting now and i used to try to be an actor i stopped because it didn't get there and now i'm getting to the point where people go they want you to act and i'm like i don't want to be the okay comedian in the great acting thing yeah i hate seeing movies and you see a comedian they go they were good and i'm like

they they they said the words but it was the worst performance i've ever seen in my life if you want to bring back earnest criticism if you that's something you're interested in is earnest criticism of your peers what is your what is what do you think of me? What's your least favorite thing about me? I'm a very big fan of you. What's your least favorite? You have to pick a thing to be critical of. I have to pick a thing? If you have to pick a thing to be critical of. This is a safe space.

Let's bring it back. Let's be the change we want to see. Enough with the football. Your fan base is not interested. The fact that you tried to pretend like you couldn't possibly come up with something, and then to give you a breaths moment and for you to have it loaded up. I walked up, and I phone out, just said, bring up the football. I was like, you're going to do it.

You're going to do it. I like football. I can't talk about it. You think I should chill out on posting about it? No, it's, it's your, it's your joy.

It's your joy. I just, I'm just, I just so viscerally have no interest. Yeah. Well, that's how I feel about musical theater. And really,

Oh yeah. When you post about musical theater, I'm like, John Marco, like, come on That's how I feel about musical theater. Really? Oh, yeah. When you post about musical theater, I'm like, John Marco, like, shut up. Come on,

you don't like any musical theater? No. You never did it? Did you ever do it? No. You never played football? I did.

And you didn't like it? No. Oh, my God. Are you kidding? It was horrifying. No, come on. It was horrifying. Come on,

it could be fun, a little brain damage. Oh. Why not? It was, I remember one time they said, oh we're gonna scrimmage the next grade's up team. And it was the age of puberty. And this team, it felt like I was gonna get killed. You know what, at my high school,

and anyone who went to high school with me can fact check this, the musical theater kids were meaner than the jocks. They were meaner. They were vicious little psychopaths. Interacting with those f**ks was so difficult. They were so mean. And all the jocks were just like, oh, I'm going to go play football.

They were just stupid and it was fun. The musical theater kids were mean as hell. Yeah. And of course I was friends with them. But it's like I did not respect them. Come on. What's one musical you like? A musical I like? Yeah. I don't think I like a musical. That's crazy. But you can't say that. I don't love country music but I'm not going to be like I couldn't think of one country song.

I can think of a musical. I just don't think there's one that I'm like oh I'd like to see that again. Is Cola Scola's show a musical? It is of a musical. I just don't think there's one that I'm like, oh, I'd like to see that again. Like, I'd like to... Is Cola Scola's show a musical? It is not a musical. Well, Cole sings at the end, which is a lot of fun. That's true. And I love that show.

Sure, but it's not a musical because technically that's just music within a play. I mean, it is a play. Okay, no worries. I support a lot of live theater. That's the other thing that has to be known. I've seen all my friends. Chance, our producer Chance

was a BFA guy and I went to every one of his horrible little productions in college. And he was a lot of fun as Uncle Vanya. And I think, was that one that you did?

Again, that's a play as well just to be clear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mid-summer. Yeah. You know, and I was happy to go. I support the friends.

I just don't think it's for, I don't think musicals are really for me. Okay. There's too much, I don't like when the emotion gets big, they't think it's for, I don't think musicals are really for me. Okay. There's too much. I don't like when the emotion gets big, they start singing. Let me. That bothers me. That bothers me. Let me send you some.

Okay. Because I know the ones you're not going to like based on that assessment. Yeah. And I'll steer to the ones. Okay. The talky singing ones. Okay. Give me that. You know what? Here's something. Here's a criticism I have of you. Wait. I didn't ask. I want to give it that you know what here's something here's a criticism i have of you wait i didn't ask you know i want to give you specifically okay that was the game okay well yours was very funny and now i'd like to go i well there's two no whoa there's maybe do you want to go alphabetical there's two here's what i'll say one is i actually don't want you to

stop but i have to say it and the other one I actually, you've already done it and you can't stop it, but don't ever do it again. So things I want to criticize about you. The first is you are dating my manager, Tova Silberman, entertainment industry, mega mind, and genius. You got to have her on. I'll have Tova on. You know what we're doing? Next week, my mom is flying. I'm flying my mom out and we're doing an episode with my mom and that's gonna be really fun wow that's gonna be fun but don't

you're not gonna get me off track the things okay so when you post you're dating my manager who i love deeply and is also a good friend of mine and you will post sometimes the most horrendous shit you'll post like you'll post like my girlfriend my girlfriend and I were watching porn the other day and she was me off. And I'm like, that's my manager! I'm getting on a work Zoom with her in 30 minutes! Well, I tell her, wrap it up. You got that meeting with Caleb.

You gotta stop. I don't think I post that many sex ones. Well, every one you do, it comes to me somehow. It finds me in the universe. So that's one thing. And then the other thing, this is something you've already done, so you can't take it back, but don't ever do it again. The little bit that you did with your opener where they wore a big shirt and you made fun of it, and then you guys did a fake online beef. Don't do that, because I saw saw that and i want you to know

that i was like i was like this feels like satire but in the off chance that it's not i'm about to fucking destroy this comic andre marcos i was about to make a video destroying that guy because i was so mad that a comic would treat you like that and i had to text tova and be like tell me right now if this is real before i destroy this person and tova was like it's a joke that's very sweet but i was ready to go in for you i'm glad i know you triggered my fight or flight and then it was all for some little gag that you had to do it was a parody of a real thing happened at that club which i didn't know about and it was yeah but it was it was really exciting yeah yeah it was exciting you said like yeah the person who made the initial complaint just got so toasted.

Yeah. I feel, I'll tell you it. You want to hear it? No. No. Well, yeah. What is it? What happened?

So, this is my, allegedly, put this in with the Bill Clinton stuff. Throw this in the Bill Clinton bucket. So, this woman, and I'll say the race. I think it comes into play later. Okay. This was off mic. You said something. Okay, listen. I didn't mean to phrase it like that. Wait, no! I said nothing! There was nothing off mic that I said about racial.

So, okay. So she made a video. She was like, I just got assigned a host for this guy. I'm not going to say his name. But obviously it could be found. He he was late and then he i was i was doing really well and trust me i've been doing comedy for eight years so if i'm bombing i know i was bombing and the moment she said that you said you bombed you bombed and and uh it was like he was late and he made fun of me and he made fun of my outfit and uh i was doing really well and just fuck this guy he of course found it

it was a very popular you know blew up on social media I I think he's apart for the context he's black the audience was was mostly black and she and he just said and obviously filmed ten different angles of this entire night he said I wasn't late I have the receipts I I was on Instagram Live. I made like a couple jokes. Here's what you brought me up to. Boom. You see the video. And she says she's bombing.

And then she says to the audience, you guys ready to get buck wild? And so he, you know, he went up and he made a couple jokes at her expense, but not. Yeah. And yeah, she just got. You're a comic. I don't. There are a lot of comics now who act this way this is the meanest thing i'm talking about this is silly i don't like this this is dumb this is number one why i any any venue i play i have never and will never let them pick who's on the show they never book an opener for me they never book a host because i'm like they have favors to fill with those slots they have favors to fill and that's great and and shout out

to those comics i hope they're getting the stage time that they need in Fort Worth or wherever. But you're not going to be on my show because I don't know you, and I don't know how you're going to behave. But that's the other thing is these comics now, they're upset that another comic poked fun at them. It's a comedy show. You're a comedian. Grow up.

I don't understand. There are so many joyless, unfunny people doing comedy now who actively hate jokes and comedy. I'm like, what is your problem? Sure. But I also think the social media, it's just the social media helps you escape from the pain. I've been made fun of in a comedy setting, and I feel sad,

but I think with social media, it's like, I feel sad, I'll make a video, and then I'll get people to go like, fuck that guy, and it'll take away this feeling. And so they don't think. They don't think they don't think there's a video of me bombing and i'm gonna say i did well and it's people have ears and i can't say oh the sound turn up the sound i mean you you just you just know it and so you feel that pain

and i i just think at least right now making content and videos sometimes people use it just a way to to get out of the non-internet pain that they feel yeah and distract i'm not saying that you can't have your feelings hurt by something someone says about you on stage not everything is free game i am saying just generally a little bit of ribbing at a comedy show is like come on man like we're comedians what hurts your feelings because i see you as like very like able to brush that's why i wouldn't want to get an online beef there's things that you're able to retort with to me strike me as you must be level-headed because i'd be so mad my retort would be like well fuck you i try i try not to engage anymore with anything negative that

anybody says to me online it was a big thing i was doing on twitter where i thought it would be so funny to like engage with it i try not to the the TikTok comments or anything. I don't have a choice, but to have thick skin because people are horrible to me online. People say the most horrific, awful stuff to me online all the time, no matter what I'm posting. There's a clip up right now of this. This actually has been bothering me.

And I talked about it a little bit on our Patreon, but the, uh, the, we did an episode with Leo Gonzalez, a very funny internet guy. And I was, there was a section where we talked about boundaries and deal breakers in dating.

And Leo had made some joke like, I don't have any deal breakers. Look at me. And I was like, no, you're sexy and I have deal breakers. And I was like, here are my deal breakers. If I go on a date with someone, I ask them a bunch of questions. They don't ask me any. I'm out. Just little basic human decency things.

There are hundreds of comments on that video with tens of thousands of likes and i'm talking like 10 20 000 being like this guy can't be picky why does this guy think he can go on a date like really horrible stuff that kind of shit doesn't usually bother me in in like pieces but when it starts to get like mass approval about that's you're like wow 10 000 people are like uh-huh and and 2,000 people responded to it. And we're like, LMAO, I was thinking the same thing. Glad you said it. And then that comment gets 2,000.

You know, it's like, damn, we're really like going down the rabbit hole. The video has views. Oh, my God. People making t-shirts. It's like, yeah, it's like these people are finding community in the comments. You know what I mean? Yes. They're literally finding like lifelong brothers and sisters in the comments.

Misery loves company. And they're having a good time with it. And the whole thing just started from me being fat and liking myself. That's nuts. So that shit gets to me a little bit. And I talked about this maybe with Jack Martin on the show. But anytime I see a hate comment and I go to their page and they look like someone I would agree with and be friends with in real life, that gets to me. Yeah.

You know? I definitely see a lot. I think about like how do you how do you teach kids about this i don't know why but i go like i've had podcast clips and the guest is a woman and you you get to because it's my account so i get like the notifications or whatever i get to witness just for a brief second what it's like to be a woman on the internet yeah just in the comments not even in the the dms and whatever whatever that nightmare hellish world is yeah but like

i feel like if i were to try to teach internet uh emotional intelligence to kids there would be a degree of like let's make your account or some kind of account if you're a straight guy, a woman, and just to see the messages you get. Just to feel, understand what it means to get constant harassment. That's the problem where there's so many of the woke complaining people. They go, you can't say anything. And I go, it's not even so much that. so much that it's that you are now so fucking famous and you have so many listeners and people who obey by you that the moment you say the f word in a joke they all take it as as explicit permission yeah that they can now go about and i understand as an artist not wanting to have that

responsibility and i'm like well then go do go do little off-broadway theaters you don't want this much power this is what comes with the money this is what comes with the money. This is what comes with the fame. The fact that you can now wake up and all your food gets handed to you. In exchange for that, you have responsibility now. You could let it go. Is this you saying on my podcast that you're going to stop saying the F-slur in your set? I'm announcing it

now. Yeah. Oh my God. That's huge, John Marco. It's done. And I want to say thank you for finally putting women on your show because you told me you didn't want any women on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I said, you've got to book women. There's more going on than you think with these gals. You have a moral clause for getting on this podcast that everyone receives.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's why you brought up, that's why he looked at the Bush thing. That's all the research he does. Has he ever supported a politician? Yeah, and we look into that kind of stuff. Yeah. And we found your love for Bush and all kinds of other stuff. Yeah. What do you want, John Marco? he does has he ever supported a politician yeah and we look into that kind of stuff yeah and we found your love for bush and all kinds of other stuff yeah what uh what do you want john marco

what is um i like to ask people what they want on the show like what is what is the goal why are you doing all this when you when there's enough gonna be what do you want out of it do you want like what is the dream is it do you want to be do you want to be on broadway do you want an hour on a certain platform do you what do you want i really like i find the thing that makes me feel good or like the salvation to my anxiety or lack of purpose is is very much art based and so the the real answer is whatever makes me feel like I'm creative and making worthwhile art and I really think that is the driving force of my life of course there's little things about success or fame or money not little big things but like I I can be miserable in any circumstance it's a real talent I'll find a way.

I think like I definitely grew up with divorced parents, but both had money. You had divorced parents? Oh, my God. You like the Chiefs? You see, it's just. But the one thing I know about growing up with money is a deep understanding of this does not make everyone feel good or happy or in a community. And it all rings hollow. So I know that.

I know that there's not happiness in that realm. And then when I die, I'll find out there's not happiness in the realm I'm talking about now. Yeah. And I'll try to tell a young person they'll go shut up yes and no one will learn anything and we'll just continue right so the answer to the question was what then so you you kind of took a roundabout way where you said i can be miserable anywhere i grew up with money it was cool that you found a way to get that in i love stand-up i think like i i need to like share my thoughts quick and so i think that's why I like podcasts. I think that's why I like stand-up.

So anything that allows me to continue making things fast, changing it so I don't get bored. And I think the thing that's kind of lacking right now is a little bit more focus to like complete something just a little bit bigger. Whether it's a full special or even a more completed sketch as opposed to a clip here or a quick joke there. That's what I, the piece that I think is really missing. But I just like stand up. I really love, I think I'm not on stage with other people, so I don't get stuck in my head of like, oh, they're incredible.

They're incredible. I'm just like, I'm very in the moment. And that's all I, that's, that's what I want to feel. That's what you want. You want to, have you,

have you done an hour? Have you done, I know you've done an hour of comedy, but have you done a special? I did like a, like an outdoor COVID thing. But no, no.

And it's hard because it's, it's now nothing is even incentivizing it. Like people are doing less. I think you should do an hour. I have these 45-minute, 30-minute things. I'm like, but it's not enough. I understand people going like, I don't want to watch an hour of stand-up. Well, this is for the people that do.

It's like trying to make a musical for you and being like, well, let's cut the singing. And it's like, well, then it's not a musical. Oh, God. Okay. But wait, do people not want to watch an hour of stand-up? Is that a thing that's happening? Am I behind on that? I just think everyone's releasing stuff. And if you looked at 90% of specials I've watched,

I watched the first 10 minutes. We have a game with Tova, because Tova's not necessarily into watching stand-up specials. And she goes, if I can guess three of the punchlines before they say it, it goes off. God, that's so... I don't like that. I don't like that so...

But I can't wait to watch the rest of your Comedy Central set. Yeah, God, get the fuck out of here. I do sometimes wonder how, I wonder how much you and Tova, like when I'm talking about a career thing, sometimes if I'm being real like, you know, petty or the way that you will be with your manager,

that you'll sometimes just be like, I would never be like this publicly, but just I'm having a bad day and I'm like, I fucking can't believe I didn't get this thing or however I'm being. I will sometimes in the middle of sometimes just be like, I would never be like this publicly, but just I'm having a bad day and I'm like, I fucking can't believe I didn't get this thing or however I'm being. I will sometimes in the middle of a rant be like, I pray to God,

John Marco cannot hear this. I pray to God I'm not on speakerphone right now. Sure. And I just, I think about that because I go, this is okay for Tova to see me in this light. It's,

yes, we're buddies, but also it's our relationship. It's her job, my job, you know? I think anyone who's good at that kind of job has a deep understanding of what really is private, what is just like, well, my boyfriend could share it.

Well, my boyfriend is a comedian. Like, I think she can gauge it really fast. I think one of the things she got from growing up in a Chabad community, I think, is just like there's so many levels. There's so many different power dynamics that you you understand and synthesize and I think the intelligence she has from that gives her an angle when it comes to show business yeah there's a lot there's a lot of like well you want their trust so you share this this is cannot be repeated yeah but people like to tell secrets. There was some head of the CIA and he told his girlfriend who was a journalist. And I'm like, human beings, you'd think that you could say to someone, you cannot do this.

Something in us we have to share. So just so we can clarify what happened just now. I told you that I was nervous that maybe things I tell your girlfriend in confidence might get back to you and you said people love to tell secrets.

You said it's human nature. We can't help it. Oh, God. Just so we all know. I said she's excellent. I think there have been things where I see something intense. There have been, listen, I swear to God. I know something's wrong.

So, you know, the other room, I'm like, oh, something's wrong yeah so i you know the other room i'm like oh something's changed and and there's there's plenty of things that she goes i can't and then i get a little thing and i'm like i can't and i totally could it doesn't matter at all it's inconsequential i the truth is that i'm i am yeah i do think about it but i think maybe in the entire time we've worked together which is coming up on like five years which is crazy I think maybe there's been like three or four moments in that entire time that I would be like that would be something I would actually care about all the other ones I'm

kidding I don't really care I don't think I'm a very intense person about my career I had no idea you were a petty it's a shocking shocking revelation are you dragging me is that a drag yeah like a light drag a light drag a little touch drag. A little touch. Do you think I'm a petty person?

No, not really. I think, listen. I would be open to the no. Listen, anyone who's doing what we're doing is petty, you know, by the average. Yeah. We're monsters. Yeah, sure. Speak for yourself.

But for art, no, there's obviously way worse. for art no there's obviously way worse who do you like who are your favorite people making stuff right now who are your favorite comics right now for me like Anthony Jelson I just I admire how much time he takes

between stuff and he just like picked a thing that he did really well and does it it's so cool that you could put him on right now like that that was so sweet that you you could really put somebody on who just needs to get the attention okay okay sure jeffrey asmus is one of my favorite uh stand-up comedians yep um he could use the help so there you go now we're talking get that guy some no he's very funny. Yeah, I just, I just, I really, I saw, I saw Stamptown and Zach, Zach, of course. But what's, what's her name? Natalie Palamides.

Genius. Like it really, it made me go like, it made me go, oh yeah, I was an actor before I was a comedian. And oh, there's so much, there's so, you can be so, you can do crazy things. And I don't need to be so restricted by the stand-up world, which is just, there's a lot of like, that's not cool. And I see her and I just like, it really just clicked with me where I was like, you're a fucking genius. And you make me feel like I should be freeing myself. And that's great art.

She's so good. She's in a league of her own, I think. She really is so good. And it's so different. I could point to the jokes as a stand-up comic, but there's just something deeper that's so brave. Like, in a real way. That's what I consider to be, like, brave. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's true. I think Like in a real way. That's what I consider to be like brave.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not, yeah, I think that's true. I think bravery is a real, I think bravery in live performances is real risk and real,

like the audience really might not like this and I'm really trying something and I really believe in it versus what's become brave is like saying something that you know your audience is going to groan or clap for. Standup comedy, I think is not intellectual in a way that it's full of smart people, but it's a heady craft. Yeah. So like all our bravery is about, well, did you say that? Yeah.

Well, you know, the climate's kind of changing. Can you say this word now? Yeah. Or this thought? And some of it, I think, can be brave, but I think so much is just like,

you said a word, you didn't say a word. Yeah. Okay. But then when you see like clowning, you're like, oh, bravery can be like, you're making yourself look ugly or you're making yourself look, do something insane. You're making people, you know a lot of this audience is not going to like this next thing you do.

Yeah. But for the ones who do, it makes it worth it. The fact that they don't like it makes it art. I think the difference is ego. I think it's removal of ego. The kind of stuff that like Natalie does or other people who have some kind of like extreme like i think they remove ego and really are willing to be like i don't care how cringe and insane this is it's it's i'm gonna get to somewhere that's worthwhile and i yeah there's i won't even do i there's stuff that

they do that i'm like i could not imagine going to that place because i would be humiliated if it didn't work. The nudity aspect, where there was a lot of nudity in that show, I think is such an element to comedy that... Do you remember seeing Borat the first time? No. They have a scene... You saw it though, right? No. It's too late.

There's too much to feel what it it is but there's a scene where him and his like buddy in it they're naked and they they they get in a big fight and they just wrestle and it's so it's so so graphic yeah and so much just their their assholes are in each other's faces yeah and it's hilarious and i go that is that's an element of comedy yeah i bet it was very funny john marco i bet i bet you were laughing i bet you were laughing so hard at that and not getting horny at all i bet it was just a laugh riot in there yeah yeah they the way that they like made love to each other and they both came at the same time yeah it was just like that is funny have you what was that what was that j. What was that Jennifer Lawrence big comedy they just put out?

Yeah. No Hard Feelings. No Hard Feelings. The scene in that where she is completely naked on the beach doing the fight scene, that really, to me, that's what you're talking about. I'm like, that was so fucking unexpected and funny. And in the first 30, I thought, I heard it, people were like, oh my God, this scene. You see the first 30 minutes? Yeah, yeah. it, you know, people were like, oh my God, this scene. It's in the first 30 minutes.

Yeah, yeah. I was like, where does this end? I laughed. I laughed for like 10 minutes. I thought it was so funny. Yeah. I never stopped worrying. I missed out on some of those big comedies around that time because.

You were busy watching the game. I was busy watching the game. I was busy watching the game. I was busy watching the game. John Marco, what's so true to you? I worry when you talk about astrology, in a way, it feels like a hacky complaint. But just because everyone's complaining about it doesn't mean it's not wrong.

Nevertheless, she persisted kind of moment yeah i don't like how casually people feel comfortable bringing astrology into conversations because it forces me in a place where i have to either uh start faking who i am and disrespect my own true feelings about a thing or somehow come off as like the deist person in the entire world, ruining what was a lighthearted comment. Astrology needs to be treated the way that we do religion. If I go to a yoga class and the teacher came up and said, what did everyone thank Jesus for today?

That would be strange. I think people would complain. But yet the teacher can come in in my yoga class and go we got Tauruses here did you see that this morning and I have to go you know

you either bring religion into everything and we all get to confront how we feel about everyone's religion start every spin class with an Alu Akbar or we don't or we don't because for me it's it's it's it's i i don't i'm like what is this conversation you might as well walk in and say so did you see there's three stones in the lawn this morning yeah someone's getting fucked tonight like it's that's to me that's to me that is as meaningful of a statement as this to that to that.

It's three stones in different places. So basically you're so true is that one yoga class you went to should have been ran differently. Is that pretty much the – what happened to this yoga class? I mean but people bring it up in conversation. They bring it up on podcasts. They bring it up on my podcast and I'm like my people who listen know my feelings on this so i can't do the polite thing of like leo and they go oh my god i knew you're a leo your attributes are an asshole and you're not courageous and nobody likes you i knew you were a leo and i go thanks you're not

courageous but but then but it's like in that moment moment, I feel like I'm a jerk because I know we shouldn't talk about it. But why are you bringing it up? Yeah. I'll start bringing up Jewish shit. I know enough from Tova. I'll bring in all the Jewish. You didn't know Jewish stuff before Tova? I mean, I knew like the commercialized version.

Yeah. Now I know. Oh, there's kosher and then there's Passover kosher. And this makes sense and we put aluminum foil over anything that might have touched a molecule of bread i'm like oh we're talking science i don't like your tone right now i don't like the way you're talking about jewish people right now we do this tradition i'm jewish i i listen on our heads i don't like the oh we we you know what i saw recently what so it was uh oh it made me so mad it was uh uh it was like some jewish guy uh was making fun of college kids on on campus they they were making a

speech and one of them had a a guy had a belly shirt on and he said like it's hard to take you seriously when i can see your belly button and i said well it's hard to take you seriously with that teeny tiny hat on your head like shut the fuck up shut the fuck up you think that's not that's not that's not weird because you your friends do it and i it made me mad because it obviously had a whiff of homo not a whiff yeah it was it was like oh man showing his belly button yeah and i'm like you're the reason you said you think you can be homophobic i'll be anti-semitic yeah yeah yeah but i but but it's just it's one of those things where i feel like oh i can talk honestly about that because i am a jew you that's so true i am a jew i've always

said that about you uh-huh or who are you gonna vote for in november do you think you're gonna go in for biden i'm i'm so lucky in new york i don't i i can say the thing of like it doesn't matter oh yeah because in new york you think you can cop out because it's gonna go for biden anyway I'm so lucky in New York I don't. I can say the thing of like it doesn't matter. Oh, yeah, because in New York you think you can cop out because it's going to go for Biden anyway. Yeah, I wouldn't even call it a cop out. It is going to go for Biden. And I think there's some degree, first of all, so it doesn't matter. But second of all, I'm like I don't need to contribute to Biden's popular vote count.

vote count if he wins and has historically lower popular vote in new york which he's going to win anyway that's that's better information than than me voting so i would either abstain or write in you know you i'm not 35 yet but trust me when i am we'll start having some conversations uh joe marco we have a segment for you called true or false uh i'm going to read you 15 statements and you're going to tell me as quick as you can if you think they're true or false. And if you win, if you get 10 or more correct, we're going to give you 50 US dollars. Really? Yes. 15 is a big number. 50 is a big number. That's a long segment. Well, here we go. 15 statements, 10 or more correct. UCB stands for Upright Comedy Brigade. False. Upright Citizens Brigade. Satriales is the name of the pork store hangout on the Sopranos. True. True.

Let the Bodies Hit the Floor was written by the band Godsmack. False. False. Do you know who it is? Drowning Pool. Correct. Al from Winnie the Pooh lives in a cave. Who's Al?

Al from Winnie the Pooh lives in a cave. Fuck. False. False. He lives in a tree. Westmore is the current governor of Maryland. True. True. The small room at Flappers Burbank is called the Nesquik Room.

False. It's the Yoohoo Room. The University of Miami's mascot is Sebastian the Duck. False. False. It's Sebastian the... The cane? Ibis.

Ibis. The original Mario Kart game released in 1992. True. True. Starfish don't have brains. True. True. The drowsy chaperone won 11 Tony Awards.

I know it won a lot. I'll say true. False. Fuck. We got you, motherfucker. And only won five. Gordon Ramsay has ran in over 15 marathons true true the lead singer of my chemical romance is cody way false false it's uh i forget his uh

gerard gerard way dryway and bogart invented the six viewpoints theory for the theater true true kangaroos can't walk backward. True. True. There are more stars in the universe than grains of sand on all the beaches on Earth. True. True.

Wow. How many? 14. 13. Not bad. That is not bad. I'm pretty impressed. Chance wrote you some softballs,

but that's not bad. Some of them I knew, and some of them it was that thing of like oh this feels like it would be true given the order the cadence of how many i think one episode we should write one that's like seven trues in a row and see what we do with that we're not getting creative enough with the cadence on it the real yeah trues and falses i was like oh there's a true false true false i've cracked the code you got it yeah it's like it's like choosing C on the Scantron. There's a thing.

We're losing big money on this podcast. Yeah. Adam Conover's episode is coming out this week. Adam Conover's episode, Chance wrote such a hard one. And really, I think he got so... Because that's his whole brand. He's the guy who's supposed to know things. And that's why Chance wrote a tough one. And was he was definitely like really okay yeah yeah it was it

was a good one chance wrote a good set for that yeah oh my god well hey don marco it's been such a privilege privilege to have you thank you we love you on this podcast we'd love to have you back i'd listen i'm so happy to do it i begged you for months to do it i had to beg and scream and cry to get you in here uh well i i'll i'll be here more come to la more often i will come to your coastal now i'm in new york every month what is by coastal i mean you you're doing your thing your thing makes a little more sense my i don't know if i can ever be by coastal what do you mean because i travel every every weekend. So it's like... I don't know. Tovo, listen.

Tovo wants it. This is all we're talking about right now. It would make it easier. It would make it easier. Well, eventually you guys should settle down somewhere in the middle. Maybe like Kansas City. No, but it would make it easier. Caleb.

Come on. It would make it easier to do your little weekend thing that you do if you had a place in both. My little weekend thing. You go, oh, next weekend. Next weekend I weekend thing you go you go oh my career next weekend i'm gonna do uh i'm gonna do uh make it up arizona okay well i guess i'll be at the la house that week it's good stuff sure and you can afford it i've seen the numbers on the podcast i know what tova shares that about me oh she shares at least there's an exchange of information tova shares your w2s with. And I know at the end of the year, with everything, your 1099s, I know what's all coming in.

You can afford an LA place. So get on out here. Sure. Is there anything you want to tell the listeners before you go? Listen to my podcast, The Downside. Caleb's both two episodes are on there. Very popular episodes.

And very popular episodes. Not for nothing. And just see me on tour. All my dates are on my Instagram links and all that stuff. Go see John Marco live. Check out all of his stuff online, on TikTok, on Twitter, just see me on tour. All my dates are on my Instagram links and all that stuff. Go see John Marco live. Check out all of his stuff online, on TikTok, on Twitter, on Instagram, on YouTube. And hey, this has been a great treat for us.

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