So True with Caleb Hearon - Josh Sharp Returns

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

Buckle up, mama. This week’s guest is the wickedly talented Josh Sharp! Josh and Caleb talk his new Off-Broadway show, a strange southern dancing custom involving members of your family, th...e perfect wedding, one hit wonders, and so much more! Get tickets to Josh Sharp Ta-Da! https://www.joshsharptada.com/ Join our Patreon for an exclusive post-episode chat with Caleb and Chance and other bonus content! https://patreon.com/SoTruePodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink  Follow Josh! @cluckcluckjoshsharp Follow the show! @sooootruepod Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloudHead to https://www.squarespace.com/SOTRUE to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code SOTRUE. This year, skip breaking a sweat AND breaking the bank. Get this new customer offer and your 3-month Unlimited wireless plan for just $15 a month at www.mintmobile.com/sotrue. About Headgum: Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. » SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1  » FOLLOW us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/headgum  » FOLLOW us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/headgum/ » FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Love thrillers with a paranormal twist the entire Oracle trilogy is available on audible listen now on audible This is a head gum podcast I'm scared to say that's okay so far off. What do you want to try and guess? Hold on. I'm thinking of another. Now you do it. Now you do it. Okay. I'm thinking to them and this is for listening. God y'all thought inside baseball musicians was bad. Joshua Cassandra sharp. Here we are. Caleb, Caleb, he-a-ron. Everyone's saying it wrong. They are saying it wrong.
Starting point is 00:01:07 It's he, you start with your pronouns, and then a-ron. A-ron, yes. Me when somebody goes, that's Ronald Weasley. No, he-a-ron. He-a-ron. Is that a joke? Was that even a joke?
Starting point is 00:01:20 Is that a joke? Look out! Y'all, we are locked in for Josh's return episode. Did you see my ads going, who's the famous Ron? And the first one was Weasley. Sorry to platform the turf Is that a joke? Y'all we are locked in for Josh's return episode Famous Ron and the first one was Weasley. Sorry to platform the turf within 30 seconds. JK is invoked in the space. I know. God, she's an apparition now in the corner. She's glad It's a bunch of he hems. She is glad. I'll say that much. She, her, say it with your chest is glad You say you say the you say the a, Ron joke and someone says, are you serious?
Starting point is 00:01:48 And you go, no, I'm JK. Mom! Damn, we are off! Come on, baby! We could end the pod right now, literally. Y'all are so lucky for these last 90 seconds. Josh, I wish these gay people out there listening to us, I wish that they were in,
Starting point is 00:02:03 although I've learned we have straight male fans. I've learned that too about my fan base in a way that's shocking, but it's there, you know, they're a, they're a blessed minority. What do you think they get from us? These straight, cause I've learned there are, and I know it from their girlfriends. What they get from being fans of us is head from their girlfriends. It's you get head on on your birthday and when you go with me to the beacon to see Caleb hee-ayron. When you go with me to see Josh Sharpe-ta-da at the Greenwich House Theater you go get head. I wish you could have seen Josh at my last tour about 15 minutes into the show when I
Starting point is 00:02:39 would say hey and I just want to give a special shout out to all the guys whose girlfriends made them come. The number of straight men That would light up like Christmas and I am to feel seen and they did they felt seen they would go they would go Yeah, they what they felt so seen in that moment Mm-hmm, and that's your nice straight male audience not to give away a joke in my show where I'm doing You know stand-up and storytelling with a bunch of slides But there is a part where I go be honest
Starting point is 00:03:04 Are there any straight guys here and the slide behind me says straight guys question mark and then a bunch of slides, but there is a part where I go, be honest, are there any straight guys here? And the slide behind me says straight guys, question mark. And then a couple of them clap, and then I go, Lord knows why, and I flip the slide and it says cultural exchange. And when they are out, like up on their feet, at that idea that they are sort of an Erasmus student, here to take in our culture.
Starting point is 00:03:23 They're interlocking learning The delicacies of piano. Yeah, absolutely Their mom made them go but they got there and they're sort of like there's something to this. You know what you know what? Yeah, I really love that. Wait was it gonna? Oh, yeah Let's just get let's get the plug out of the way now because I don't want people to wait until the end of the episode To know you're here because I love you and I'm excited to have you back period the same time people to wait until the end of the episode to know you're here because I love you and I'm excited to have you back period the same time period full stop
Starting point is 00:03:46 But at the same time yeah, you do have an incredible show going on right now. Why not both? Why not be here as friendship and also to do our our public relations obligations Exactly correct to fulfill those quotas for the people you're the Greenwich theater doing your show today Which I have seen a work in progress version of and raved about mind you you. And if the fates allow, you'll be at opening night tomorrow just to locate the listener in time and space. I don't know when this comes out. This comes out likely Thursday. Oh, well that's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Then the show will be in full swing seven times a week through August 23rd, maybe more. And yeah, Greenwich House Theater, Josh Arp, Tadah, directed by Mr. Sam Pinkleton. Mr. Sam Pinkleton, yes. And produced by Mike and Carly the oh Mary gang back together Yes, once more but for my cum jokes and my pathos you have I'm not gonna say any of them because of course I don't want to spoil it
Starting point is 00:04:33 But I will just tell the audience that Josh's Current show to da has at least three jokes that I think about once or twice a week you love that I do You love that I can't wait to hear them off air. I will tell you off air. Yeah. I will tell you off air. Okay. But they're really, they're really good, Josh. Thank you, King.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And I'm just a huge fan. So what's going on with you? And I have you. Come on. Well, you know what's so funny, and I know we're gonna bring in some lobby talk into the podcast space. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I feel exhausted in a way I haven't felt. Yeah. And it's almost a joke because the show opens tomorrow, so I've been in rehearsals and tech and previews and for a while as a joke I was sending to my friends an image of that t-shirt that says I can't I have tech Yeah, and now it's writ real like it's become real is reality when I say Friday I hit a wall and I was like I've never been this tired in my life. And some of it is just like, oh, I'm like, I've never done this type of run,
Starting point is 00:05:28 where you're doing this many shows a week. And then especially in the preview stage, it's like you're doing rehearsal during the day and then you're doing the show at night and you're changing things. And then also some of it, not to get too heavy, is because of some of the content of the show, and Sam's sort of pulling me a little bit
Starting point is 00:05:42 from comedian into actress mode. I'm like, what's it like when you recount the story of this awful accident you went through or your mom dying and you're not just sort of outside observing it, you're also sometimes like in it telling it storyteller style. As a human being that experienced that. Literally, and doing that every night of the week,
Starting point is 00:05:57 I think it caught up to me that I was like, okay, I get this actress shit. In some small little way, it's like, it's still that type of show, but it's like pulling me into that space more. So lately I've been like, damn, I'm exhausted. But in a blessed great way. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:11 Like it feels right. That's the caveat of both of our moment, I think. Every day I'm waking up in my bed, like I've never been this tired. I don't know how to do this. And so I make myself lay there for like two more hours than I normally would. Cause luckily I have that where it's like,
Starting point is 00:06:24 you're probably having call times at four in the morning. I'm not getting that at the moment. At the moment I am waking up, getting in the shower, getting in a car, and then working for 12 hours. Yeah. I feel similarly though, where I'm like, I am, and it's so funny, because I forget this every time I'm not filming something.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I go, man, I wish I was filming something. And then I book a job and I go, how did you forget what this is like? And I love it and I still want to do it but I'm like the brain does do a funny thing where it's like almost like a There's an animal thing that has to turn off me remembering what making a movie or TV shows like so that I can want to do It again because of how much I love it Version of that but it's also new it's like I've never I like know that conceptually speaking
Starting point is 00:07:00 But I've also never done this type of theatrical run So it's both like me turning off like you knew this was hard and also like learning every day the way in which it's hard. Also, I swear we're gonna tell jokes soon. No, this won't be funny. I refuse to let this episode be funny. We came in hot. That first 180 seconds, damn, y'all remember, he a-run and I'm just J.K.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Wow, y'all. Wow, we came in hot. We might play with the order a little bit. We might have a chance to cut this up. Chop, you know We might have to cut this up chop and screw might move Yeah, we might move some of this initial stuff way to the back. God. I wish jay Dilla was alive Think of what he would do with this the producer jay Dilla. Who's that? No, Jay Dilla knows that oh god You're losing fans. Who is that? Incredible incredible hip-hop producer. You got it worked with them
Starting point is 00:07:44 MF doom a lot worked with a lot of the legendary legends Wow yeah wonder if he worked with tech 9 I Bet so, but I actually can't recall tech 9 is my camera call But my point is chop and screw this absolutely in the edit you'll find the episode will do it needs to be done We'll do it needs to be done. Yeah in in rehearsal. We'll rehearse this episode a couple times We'll put it on its feet We'll see what needs to be done. Yeah, in rehearsal, we'll rehearse this episode a couple times, we'll put it on its feet, we'll see how it feels. But can I say, to also answer your question,
Starting point is 00:08:06 when today is like my one day off between sort of two weeks on and then opening night tomorrow, which is like a big to do, and they were like, keep it free, and then you asked to do the podcast, and I was like, I'm gonna do it, and producers were like, are you up for that? I was like, this is one of those things
Starting point is 00:08:20 that isn't exactly work, it does give me, like me getting to talk to you is like a buoyant thing that gives me energy. Do you know what I mean for real though? Where I was like, any other podcast would be no, but I'm like that I get to sit, I mean, duh, it's like plugjosharptada.com, but it's like mostly, it's like I get to sit with Caleb for 90 minutes.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I haven't gotten to see you in a minute. Well, you've been so busy, I've been so busy. So here we are. It's nice when we reconnect. Catch and day them up. Who, okay, for the heads, who is, be honest, Well, you've been so busy. I've been so busy. So here we are. It's nice when we can catch and day them up who okay? For for the heads who is be honest and don't mince words and don't you dare try to skate around this Josh? Okay, who is the most exciting person that is coming to opening?
Starting point is 00:08:55 I'm not gonna mince words. The only trouble is we're saying this because of how time works the day before Yeah, and you know how it is. I do many who've RSVP'd yes, and you just never know. Who is the most exciting person that's RSVP'd yes? Come on. Well, honestly to me personally, of course Nathan Lane is coming. But he's bringing as his guest Nathan Lee Graham, who I love and know for years.
Starting point is 00:09:17 But I do believe, I mean, Nathan Lane is legend. We could talk about this all day. Nathan Lane is mother, father, everything. But so is Nathan Lee Graham. And I want to stake the flag in the ground that I think especially for a certain generation like like Nathan Lee Graham as that Fucking assistant to Mugatu and Zoolander. Yes is like queer canon. Like there were no funny parts Yes, Nathan Lee Graham is is like mother to a lot of people who don't many of us have paid our bills off of playing gay assistant due to the works of people who don't know it. Many of us have paid our bills off of playing gay assistant due to the works of Nathan Lee Graham.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Nathan Lee Graham, who's a legend. I love him. But when I heard Nathan was coming and was bringing Nathan Lee Graham, I was like, well, come on. The Nathans? It doesn't get any better than that. The Nathans are coming?
Starting point is 00:09:58 Nathan and Nathan together. Nathan and Nathan? So again, watch them both wake up tomorrow with, yeah. Yeah. They play, because they have chlamydia. It's not even like COVID or something. They're both just like, sorry, we each got the clap. Not from each other, but. Chlamydia is very serious, Josh.
Starting point is 00:10:13 It's serious. It's very serious. So that's fun. Who else is coming? Well, Amy Ryan's coming and I love her. Wow. Josh, this is a star-studded cast. Well, I think she won't mind me saying
Starting point is 00:10:24 that we went to one of Nathan Lane's openings, because Erin and I know Nathan Lane, I love her. Wow. Josh, this is a star-studded cast. Well, I think she won't mind me saying that we went to one of Nathan Lane's openings, cause Erin and I know Nathan Lane, and she was a Broadway opening like a year and a half ago, and she was famously in Bo's Afraid with him. And so we went to this little after party Nathan threw at Sardis, and when I say, he was like,
Starting point is 00:10:40 "'I just invited a few friends, come by. "'You know, it's just a couple of my friends.' "'It's like Baranski and Meryl Streep.' And like, so they invited a few friends, come by. You know, it's just a couple of my friends. It's like Baranski and Meryl Streep. And like, so they're at one table and effectively the kids table is me, Aaron Jackson and Amy Ryan and Ari Aster just being like, look at Meryl Streep. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:55 That's the kids tables, Amy Ryan, Ari Aster and the stars of Dix the musical. So Amy and I really got along that night. When I say me, Amy Ryan, Ari Aster, Aaron Jackson, fully are doing the thing. We're at the table and I'm being like, take a picture of me just to frame Meryl Streep behind. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:14 We're like, we're like fully doing that like we're fucking randos in Times Square. Just being like, oh, get a picture of me. And truly just, there's pictures of me in the bottom left corner just to get like Meryl sitting next to Bransky. Yeah Merrill glowing in the background. Oh my god having Martin We didn't say hi. Are you kidding? Of course not. We're not insane Sane I sit there with Ari Aster and Amy Ryan and we crack jokes all night Just as I'm supposed to Amy Ryan a legendary legend
Starting point is 00:11:39 People and she was so good in doubt Unreal she was so good in doubt. Unreal. She was so good in doubt. Unreal. Anyway. God, all this name dropping. God, this is silly. It sucks. This is silly of us.
Starting point is 00:11:51 You've changed. I've changed in a big way. You've changed. Off-Broadway will change you, girl. Yes. I tell you what. You're different. You walked in here and you said, where's my tea?
Starting point is 00:11:59 Yeah. And I said, Josh. Oh, sweetie, I'm making three figures a week now. That Off-Broadway money will change you. sweetie. I'm making three figures a week now. That off Broadway money will change you. Yeah, I'm changed. I'm being different towards everybody. What did I say I've changed about recently? Oh, well, I posted a picture of, I, this was a joke ultimately, but I posted a picture of my mom. It's all a joke. It's all a joke. Can we just say that to your listeners? Can we say that? Some of y'all are like, this is real. It's not. Oh, they're so serious.
Starting point is 00:12:24 My, I've gotten a little, I've read some of the comments on the YouTube lately. Some of our listeners need to stop listening because they've started to piss me off. What kind of stuff are they saying? They said my charm has fallen. How staunch is it before you came in here? Someone commented recently and said there's no other way to say this. Caleb's charm has fallen. Well I want to say two things. One, the man is tired. By the way. OK, the man is tired.
Starting point is 00:12:49 But two, I'd love to give you a platform right now to do something quite charming. Oh, Joshua. That was it. There it was. Joshua knocked it off. And there it was. But what was, what were we talking about? Oh, I've changed.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Well, I posted my mom on my close friend's story. I was going to post my mom on my close friend's Just a picture of her at lunch being cute and without even thinking sort of instinctually. I put the Paris filter on her. I Smoothed her I smoothed my beautiful mother and mother and if and she looked good in it and I posted her smooth mothers Are God's perfect angels? I know I smoothed my own mother who gave birth to me and I posted and then I said oh Caleb you can't be smoothing mother and not on close friends for close I didn't even smooth her for public I smoothed her for like a public my cousin and five comedians her vanity I smoothed her for you and Chance that's my close that sucks I know I smoothed her I smoothed mother when this is done text me and chance the picture of her no Paris filter
Starting point is 00:13:47 Mother you've been smoothed. I want the raw footage you've been hit by you've been struck by a smooth Instagram filter I Really truly smoothed mother and I couldn't believe it then I said Caleb. I don't like this is dark where you're headed That's dark. You're going down a dark path son. I hope it's Sunday I hope you're going to church after this I went before and I'll be going after of course I was at church early this morning. Yes, absolutely. I go to the 8 and the 11. Yeah, because you need it a lot I haven't yes, I want to go to heaven. Yes and Wednesday nights I know that they see you down there as well. Also, you know, I'm doing the collection plate now. Yes
Starting point is 00:14:20 I pass it. Yeah, they asked you to stop doing so much with your hips. Did they not? With the collection plate weren't you doing a lot of hip work? The numbers don't lie. I'm telling you when these when these other he-hims be passing that plate They don't get as much as me I considered I am recently I considered beginning to tithe. Oh I thought what if I talk about this? I believe it. I think that's one of the best parts of church. I really do think you should tithe. I'm like, what if I started, I was like-
Starting point is 00:14:48 Set a percentage that works for you and every month you should give it away. I mean, of course we're leftist. So I mean, like give it away to like mutual aid and stuff. Not to a church and also not to anything on ActBlue. But I just mean like give it to like mutual aid or just like give it away. Just like find someone and give them your money.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I think it's like a really good spiritual practice Do you know what I did? I started to think about I was typing an email to The people who need to know that maybe I want to start tithing and then I said, you know What go look at how much money you spent on other people's meals and cars this month like friends, you know And just see what the number is and the number was such that I said we're gonna put the email off for A month well, that's a form of time. I said that that's my tithing for this month It is true that one of the greatest times when you're like Having checks feeling flush. Yeah is is picking up dinner for your friends
Starting point is 00:15:36 that's the only thing and we've talked about this because Because you've picked up some for me recently Because I do it again. Absolutely because I would say I we haven't been flushed lately and this shall change. But I've talked about this with friends where it's like, cause there were times I was flush picking up checks. And for those of us in this business, you know, girl, four years, who knows who's gonna be picking up checks. So we sort of are always doing it to invest in like,
Starting point is 00:15:57 you're gonna be picking up mine in a couple years, I have no doubt. You will get me back. You will get me back. You will, you will. Not just cause you're gonna pop off, cause I will fall. Yeah. I will fall from grace. The charm is down. The charm has fallen. The Olympus has fallen. Truly there is like an acute awareness I think unless you've been very, very, very rich, which none of us are for like 20 years.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Other than that, everyone that we hang out with, everyone in our like walk of life Even when they're doing well has this awareness of like hey Exactly, it's like who fucking knows I'm not counting on anything because you just don't know So I do think what you're talking about is a form of tithing But I also think you're not wrong to be considering that and maybe going oh Maybe I'm not gonna stop picking up cars and dinner for my friend Maybe the percentage is much smaller than I think but it's like I'm still gonna carve out some little percentage that's like on the monthly goes towards something. Yeah. I think that's a beautiful practice.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Do you know, one of the most accurate- Also, I'm flagging we need to talk about cotillion. We need to talk about cotillion. Let's get back to cotillion. Because that's related to tithing. One of the most accurate things that's ever been said to me is that when I was about to move to Chicago My dad's my dad was terrified of me moving to Chicago partially because he had that and he said son you gay He said son you day Well, he actually yes almost for identically that I talked about that in the special But the he said he said well, I'm a little worried about you because you're a bit of a good time Charlie and what he meant
Starting point is 00:17:20 What he meant by that is even when you're broke you'll be throwing that card down for stuff You can't and I was like, oh he clocked the hell out of me. I was like, I do overdraft like that. Even when you're flush, you're backing up on it. I'm doing things I shouldn't be doing. And that's Good Time Charlie behavior. Good Time Charlie, I'd never heard of as Good Time Charlie. You haven't?
Starting point is 00:17:35 Have you heard that? I guess for some reason I want it all the time. Good Time Charlie. For some reason I'm drawn to I wanna be like Good Time Gary, I wanna guh. You wanna guh. But I like Charlie, Charlie is correct. Or T, you're a Good Time Terry. Good Time Terry. Yeah, Terry's more fun. Good time Terry good good time to or a Giana T good time general Terry
Starting point is 00:17:51 Yeah Fuck or is it better doing great or is it better to sandwich? Is it good time Timmy generals? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, is it like GTG? You know, you're right good time Theodore Gash GTTG, you know? No, you're right. Good Time Theodore Gash. Good Time Theodore Gash. Sounds like the name of a play that I'd be forced to go to in college.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Oh, god, yes. Yeah, because Chance was in it. Good Time Theodore Gash. Good Time Theodore Gash. Cotillion. Well, we were talking about this off air, and Chance had questions, and it feels related to tithing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:24 First of all, did you do cotillion? No, but I took etiquette classes. It was a different thing. But these are related fields. Yes, they are. Because Chance said that's for girls only. And I said, well then why am I, he, him ass being it? Yeah, well Chance is a gender essentialist.
Starting point is 00:18:37 It's very scary. Well, absolutely. Yeah. Sorry to bring up JK again, but Chance and JK over there going cotillion is for girls. Very in cahoots, yeah, those two. No, to answer your question, Chance, it was for all genders. And you did learn manners, but you also learned the foxtrot. And then the last week, you would bring your parents in
Starting point is 00:18:55 and you'd foxtrot your mom around. You'd do like box step with your mom while they played baby faces if I could change the world over and over again. Yes. And it's beautiful, by the way. It was beautiful. Yeah. We didn't have a dance component.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I could be the sunlight in your universe as I grind on my mom in a Southern conservative way. Yes. You know what I mean? Yeah, grinding in a Southern conservative way is a lost art. You might think this might have been really something good. I'm like to the left.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Ooh. And back. Ooh. To the right. Ooh. And back, you know? It's kind of sort of softly gripping your mom's curves I absolutely yeah nice baby if I could Yeah, is there singing is there a singing aspect of your career coming up?
Starting point is 00:19:35 Career I hope not in this show. Yeah, yeah I couldn't it was hard enough on the voice to do this show where I'm just talking at my pace. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it would be fun to sing again. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Do you think there's a singing phase in your career? No, I couldn't possibly.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Well, not to bring up something from another podcast, and we'll do this briefly and move on. A bit we'd been saying for years that Bone and Matt finally said on the podcast in a way that was like, okay, well, now this is going to be real is we're like, the four of us will do a concert tour one day and call it for the tour. They rhyme and do everyone sings at all times. There's never one voice. I can't imagine that will actually happen. And maybe in the next year, because it's now they've like staked it and they're like, we're
Starting point is 00:20:22 really doing this. And we've always joked about it, but knowing we were really doing it, but it was a secret. And now they said it to their fucking fans. They're like in the comments, like, win is for the tour. So I do think I'll do that one day. I can't imagine that it wouldn't happen. Number one and number two, I can, I can already, like of the four of you, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:20:39 Matt's gonna have a ball. Like, all four of you of course will have a blast, but Matt's going to have a ball. Also, all four of you, of course, will have a blast, but Matt's going to have a ball. Also, and then relatedly, one year, and I don't know when is the right year, but Aaron and I need to do Dick's the movie, The Concert. Easily. Or Dick's the musical, The Concert.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yes. It's like that needs to happen, but we need to give it enough time to sort of feel like it's in. Well, you need to start booking guest acts now. Because you need to get on Megan's calendar. That's true. You need to get all the special folks in there. And we'll do it at Hollywood Cemetery.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Yes, of course. In the middle of winter. Yes, of course, easily. Winter's fine out there. That's part of the whole thing. That's true, God, yeah. I wasn't thinking. I thought that was a joke, but it's not.
Starting point is 00:21:16 It was really good producing. God, I can't help but produce. People forget you're a producer. People forget. PGA, give him a ring. But how about you? You gonna sing? No, Josh, no, I'm too shy and I couldn't I couldn't Go ahead. I don't know. I just think that
Starting point is 00:21:33 Maybe someday No, I don't know, you know, we'll see what happens I'm mostly invested in coming to your shows hanging out with you following you around the country I'll be at for the tour every every night. I'm invested in doing set visits with you. Yes, come on over. Me and the gang. Come on over, baby. Going to your premieres.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yes. Reading my tickets. Oh, I'm in the overflow room. That's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all right, I'll see Caleb at the party. I'm putting you in the overflow room. You get your pass at the end, it's not the party pass.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I will tell you, there's only been one time. There's only been one time that someone has asked me to come to their show, like their concert and I've come and then I realized that I didn't have the special pass that they just like GA'd me and that I was like, I have one of those too and I'll say off air what it was. Cause it's so funny, but I can't put it on the record. Yeah. That can't put it on the record. Tell me off air what it was. But please remind us chance off air. God,
Starting point is 00:22:23 I love to do this stuff to tantalize the oh they hate it they hate it. They hate it. They hate it They're not a good at all, but don't forget. We're charming. Yeah, well your charm is that has lifted my king Absolutely, it has not fallen take a bath. What's mine is yours? Take a bath in my child Oh my gosh, we haven't even told me charm charm meter mines rising Theodore charmer over here. Yeah general Yeah, I we haven't even told the listeners about our beautiful day together that we had oh The one in the park yes with our plus one yes with our plus one I loved your plus one your gorgeous beautiful lovely boyfriend who I connected with on a soul level
Starting point is 00:22:59 Which chance brought up is now the time to drop it or that's something for later So we did this is a bit last time right Josh sharps personal life has developed which Chance brought up, is now the time to drop it or that's something for later? Not the baby. Yeah, I'll read this. Cause we did this as a bit last time, right? Josh Sharpe's personal life has developed. Yeah, for years. The only thing on my Wikipedia under personal life was, read the first sentence. Sharpe is openly gay.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And? He enjoys reading. Yes, openly gay, enjoys reading. I didn't know this, but Chance found there's an addition now. So now Josh's personal life reads as such sharp is openly gay citation. He enjoys reading citation. Chance, you know what the citations are? One of them is I think talking to Z-Way on Instagram live and deep COVID.
Starting point is 00:23:36 I'm unreal. And now there's a new one with a new citation. He is in a relationship with performer Blake Daniel. Blake hard launch 11 and a half years in, and we're hard launching. We're hard launching Blake. And he is a performer. Don't forget. I just love Blake.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Replaced Gideon Glick in Spring Awakening. Of course. To great acclaim. To great acclaim. No, we had a good time. You brought your gorgeous boyfriend, and I brought, of course, my friend Liam. I loved Liam.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Liam is special. We're in the DMs being friends. You know this? Liam's a special boy. He's a special boy. Special boy. Album coming out soon. In the next half a year ish. I think I don't know the exact day and a great straight Yo, yeah, you know yes a great straight one of the one of our great not to make everything about your alphabet But it's essential everything is about your alphabet and people who don't think so are fucking weird
Starting point is 00:24:19 Sort of first day of like our and of course we could do it on this show Yeah, first day of like the crew. I was like, everybody, what's your alphabet? And then after we did it, we were like, everybody feels cool about that, right? That wasn't like an HR thing. We liked that. And everybody was like, yeah, we liked that.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah, that was nice. It was nice to be like, you know, my name's this and I'm a B. You know, just everybody getting their alphabet out there was really nice. And we were like, and save space if it's S to be clear. You're outnumbered vastly, but we want to know and we want to celebrate you
Starting point is 00:24:49 for being S, which means you're also A, ally. And maybe A asexual, I don't know. We'll see, I can't imagine working on the Josh Sharpe show and being upset that you were astrosexuality. Absolutely, and you know, we're in theater more firmly. We left the Gowanus Comedy Canal, and now we're in the equity space. And there's a lot of she-thes
Starting point is 00:25:08 who are stage managing in the world. You know what I mean? Like the world of theater is lesbian she-thes. Bisexual she-thes run theater. The city runs on their work. If God forbid that bicycle gets a flat tire. Absolutely. These shows will not go on on the stages will be dark
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Starting point is 00:29:30 three months only. Speeds may slow above 35 gigabytes on unlimited plan taxes and fees extra see Mint Mobile for details. O'Reilly You know what I mean? Brokamp If that Brooklyn Bridge bike lane is not open, your show is not going on. O'Reilly Say that, Mama Fish. Brokamp The she-they's need to get over to work. O'Reilly Your population is mostly she-they's, and I feel like you've-thays need to get over to work. Your population is mostly
Starting point is 00:29:45 she-thays and I feel like you've got more than one stage manager listening to this. I bet you have triple digits she-they stage managers. Oh yeah. In the following. And they won't be in the comments because they don't do that. They don't have time. They're listening in the wings and the closest. They're calling queues on waitress in Bridgeport, Connecticut. Do you know what I mean? They got cues to call on waitress at the Pantages. The closest they'll come to commenting is when they see me in public, they will do this. Back down. It's one eye contact, big eyes, opening of the mouth,
Starting point is 00:30:20 close, back down. That is the closest they will come to commenting. Well, that's beautiful. That's all we need. That's all we need. As a performer, that's all I want is big eyes and avert your gaze. Beautiful. Really, really beautiful. I do love a she-they. They are probably the biggest part of my con... They're what's going to carry the swing states for me. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:30:37 When I run, they're what's going to carry Michigan. They're going to get me over. And are you prepared to announce? Well I am 30, Josh, and there will be another election in a couple years that I won't be eligible for. Never too early, though. The one after that, I am eligible. And was that a Connor Ratliff bit? Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Where he started running for president because he was 35. It was so funny. He is so funny. Also, people need to put respect on Connor Ratliff. Connor Ratliff is one of the funniest living people. Let me say something that will mean nothing to almost anyone.
Starting point is 00:31:05 And yet, I feel it needs to be on the record. It'll mean a lot to these two guys, because he's a Missouri boy. Well, yes. So the way the UCB theater worked is that you would, before you got to run for your sketch show, you would do what was called a spank. And that was like a 6 p.m. show
Starting point is 00:31:22 that was like an audition show. You'd do it one time early, and that's what you would do in front of a crowd for them to decide, like, do we give this a run or not? But then there was something sort of between a spank and a run where it's like if you were an established performer who maybe was like, I don't even know if I'm running this, but I just want to try it, they would give you a slot called the workout. And it was like maybe at seven or something.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And maybe you were trying it for a run, but it's more like, you know, you just deserve theater space to work on something, whether or not you want to run, and we'll give you the early slot. So people would use it for all sorts of things that they were working out. Connor, for years, used the workout slot to do a show where he would physically work out on stage. And he would do a 30 minute workout,
Starting point is 00:32:04 like Jane Fonda style, but Connor doing it. And then he would always have two backup people, and it was often me or Aaron Jackson or Darcy Carden. We were the three that got called in. A murderer's row of backup dancers. And when I say we didn't speak a word and we were just in back mirroring, whatever he did,
Starting point is 00:32:22 and it was one of the most creatively fulfilling things I've ever did. Like an end joke on an end joke for an already niche crowd. And he would just do that. But that's what Connor is good at. These kinds of things that he's like playing for his crowd hard. The number of things you,
Starting point is 00:32:38 we're so deep in reference. Like the number of things you have to know to understand how funny that is. It's just insane. That's a mad lib where every proper noun is like who? What? You know what I mean? But if you get even two thirds of them, that's funny. Yeah, that is so funny. Connor Ratliff is so funny. We, all my little college comedy buddies, Chance Included and I,
Starting point is 00:32:59 we used to, anytime we come to New York, we would see a Connor show. Anything he was in. We were like, we're going to use to're like the greatest living improviser love there's like four or five other names You could say but Connor's one of them adore that guy I would try to listen to an episode of 12 hour day his podcast with JDM Otto who I also love One of my old school people that we met like when we were UCB students really crazy Anyway Connor rules Connor's been in these streets doing the work Connor does rule really really funny I mean that's one of the probably to me one of my favorite things you know what I had the other night I Friday night I
Starting point is 00:33:32 Sex with my wife yeah Josh how did you know that well she texts me yeah? She's been frustrated well we fix You've been so busy now night. You've been so busy. No, um, my wife does not get touched Samantha Samantha Tom man with a tea. Thank you. Tell me I'm for Samantha. He a Ron. I Know I left I Filmed I left set I went directly to a show at the bell house to watch my friends and they said kill bunch You do a set and I said no I couldn't I'm so shy and I haven't prepared anything
Starting point is 00:34:07 They said kill please do a set I said okay on the late show and I did a set and I had a great time and the audience was lovely and I hadn't done a show in a minute since I filmed the special actually was a very stressful version of doing a show and all The shows before that were stressful versions of doing a show So it's the first time I'd really just been on stage to have fun in a minute And I had one of those nights that you have in comedy every once in a while Maybe other people have them more often than I do I don't know Where the fog kind of clears and you can just look around at all these I mean it was such a great show
Starting point is 00:34:32 It was like Joe Sunday Love Esther Fallick love and it was Mary Beth Brunnen Holmes. It was their show Come on. It was an incredible show and I'm now I'm feeling bad that I might have forgot someone Oh Jared Goldstein was on it as well. He's kind of a big lineup. Literally every single person is perfection. I know, and it was like, and everyone was so funny and so great. And good casting,
Starting point is 00:34:51 can we say. Truly great casting. And I don't just mean like demographically, I mean comedically. Yeah. Like a well cast show where those are people who are uniquely good at the thing they do. Yeah, different styles. And Jared, yeah, Jared was there and was so funny. He's in town right now.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And it was just one of those moments where the fog around everything that is doing comedy cleared a little bit. And I just looked around and watched all my friends do killer sets in front of a hot audience. And I was like, this is the most special thing in the world. I had a version of that and I can't decide if this is tacky to say, but we're just going to say it. Say it. And then if afterwards we feel bad about it, you know, snip snip.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Well simply we'll cut. But the shows have been great so far, but because it is like theater, but it is also sort of standup. Like something Sam and I are talking about a lot is like how much to be a standup and how much to be an actress. And some of the standup talent is like,
Starting point is 00:35:36 I can work the room in a way you can't always in theater. Also in that theater, because I have a giant screen and it's small, I can see every single motherfucker's faces. In a way, I don't necessarily need to, but it's like, so I'm like very in the room with you and so we can sort of like, you know, feel the energy. It's like a little witchy, whatever. So they've all gone well, but they have like very different energies sometimes. And when I say the one we did the other week when we were in previews was like the, there've been many that were like, damn, that one was firing, hell yeah, insanely good.
Starting point is 00:36:08 But this one we walked off and I was like, well, it'll never get better than that. Like, that's as good as performing is. Like the crowd was with me the whole time and the energy was electric and some like unique, like of the moment in the room things happened and I was in my absolute bag. And then I went down there and all the producers were there in a way where I was like usually
Starting point is 00:36:27 one of y'all come not all of y'all come and then they were like you crushed and I was like dude we crushed that's the show and they went good news that was the night the Times was reviewing it. And when I say for theater producers that's like sports they're all like chest bumping me. And truly the part that's tack tacky about saying this, and trust, I don't literally give a shit. The Times did not like Dix the musical. Like, I don't care. They might write a shitty review. I totally am fine with that.
Starting point is 00:36:54 I actually think most of, if your art is getting good reviews uniformly, like look in the mirror. You have some questions to ask. I like shit that like, Dix got a pan in the Times and a rave in the post. And I think that is so funny. So they might hate it, but just the feeling of being like,
Starting point is 00:37:11 it felt like sports, but for she they's. Where we were all like, we were like hugging each other and chest bumping. And it was like, not only was it just like, also it was like mostly fun to do that show for the other 198 people. Like we all walked off being like, this is as good as it is to do this. What a like beautiful feeling. And that
Starting point is 00:37:28 that on top, they're like, and you won the big game. Yeah. And you hit the game winning shot. It felt like that. It felt like I hit a buzzer beater. Well, because there's just these, there's these moments in your career when you do creative stuff that you do want to rise to the occasion just to see how much juice you can squeeze out of the thing you've been working on. And it's rare that everything lines up that you have the great night, they show up the way they were supposed to, everyone agrees that it was great so that whatever comes out of those people coming, whether it's good or bad, you know that you gave the best version of it for the thing. Like just to feel so at peace I think is what it really is. That's what it really is. And again, the tacky part is, but I don't think we need to cut this.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I think I feel okay about saying this, again the tacky part is but I don't think we need to cut this I think I feel okay about saying this but the tacky part is Of course you may now look at the times and it will be mid and be like energy was off and then you're like, huh but What's true is like all that really matters about the shit we're doing is how it feels to us Yeah people who made it and how it feels in the room to the people we made it for yeah You know what I mean? So it's like at the end of the day It's like we all know those of us who were there on that night,
Starting point is 00:38:27 like, damn, that was special, you know? And so when you have that sort of feeling, it's like, oh my God, this is why we do this. And it's mostly, it's about just like trusting our own instincts as performers and being like, I'm trying to do the thing that makes me feel good, that feels most true, and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And then when that also syncs with their energy, and you're like, look at all of us sort of on the same page like riding this ride together. Yeah. Girl come on that's why we do this. It's so good and it's also. And it is communal it's like I do believe I have to sort of like do what I do not for them. Yeah. But it's like but when they're fucking with it in the right way we are like all doing this thing together. It is witchcraft. Yeah and it's hard because there's a lot of different like inputs that come out here all the time. I've honestly felt that way about this show where I'm like, I think we who are making this podcast know exactly what it is, which is that we're in the room. We feel special about everyone that we bring in, but it's
Starting point is 00:39:14 hard because there's like feedback, you know, like sometimes people will be like, sometimes we'll be like, Oh, I don't like when the musicians come on, they bore me. Or I don't like when you talk, when you talk too much inside baseball with comedians or I don't like what, like people have different things that they do or don't want. And we're about to bring a musician on actually after all this inside baseball so this is gonna be a rave episode. Or they'll bring on a fucking you know like the two activists I've had on the they this
Starting point is 00:39:35 one why and that feedback will sometimes reach you. Literally my favorite episodes to be clear. But I'm like I just think the what the thing you're talking about like when you're creating anything even if something is like silly and not a cool off-Broadway theater show as a podcast, is like, yeah, you just gotta feel good about it and know that you like what you're doing and be like, yeah, this is gonna find, in different fragments of this,
Starting point is 00:39:55 we'll find the people it needs to find. The other thing, and I hope this is inside baseball, but in a sort of way that I think's applicable to every single thing that y'all she-days are doing. But I have become increasingly convinced too that it's like you have to be process over product, by which I mean of course, you need to be like, I believe in this thing,
Starting point is 00:40:13 I stand by it, I feel good about it, but it's like the building of it and the making of it, like to me the coven building of this theater piece where it's just like, I want people, I wanna go out of my way to like show love and gratitude to these people we've assembled, and I want people, I wanna go out of my way to show love and gratitude to these people we've assembled, and I want people who are feeling good to be in this room making something.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And that has felt true this whole time in a way where we're all sort of squeezing each other's hands being like, this is one of those rare ones where we're sort of all in love with each other and feeling good about it, and that's all that matters. It's like, who fucking cares? But also that part makes the product better. But it is just like like how do you make it that you're like?
Starting point is 00:40:47 lovingly You know like giving all of yourself to all the other people you're collaborating with yeah And trying to have be open for that to come back Yeah, and just all of you leave at the end of day being like wasn't it fun to do that together? Yeah, it's like yeah great. That's like all it is that's so I think that's the thing you have to like put as your North Star That's really beautiful. I want to adopt that yeah to like put as your North Star. That's really beautiful I want to adopt that. Yeah, I do because that sounds really special. I abuse my staff and I Would just and they're both shaking their heads right now
Starting point is 00:41:12 Yes, because they they go through hell and back But I'm now thinking that maybe I should do it your way where it's actually love and gratitude Because I do I hit and I yell just try it. I'm gonna try it. Maybe I'm gonna try Although we've gotten results out of hitting and yelling That's the problem you know because it's like of course it sounds nice to be at kumbaya We play the guitar we sing the songs, but it's like I hit and I yell and we make money You know so yeah, I don't know but it is more picking up the checks I'm making three figures a week. I hit and yell, but everyone in this room stands you who works on this show
Starting point is 00:41:44 They drive Bugattis, you know? True. When it's good, it's good. When it's good, it's good. A Bugatti in New York City. What a choice. They street park, because they know I'll get them another one. The street park Bugatti and cruise 14th
Starting point is 00:42:09 Street just back and forth I know it from C to 10th I know it that's what that was what actually fuck all that gay shit I was saying about being nice to she days when you work with them thank you what life is about is being behind the wheel of that Bugatti. Yes starting in alphabet city Yes, until you hit meatpacking. Yes, and then back again. Yes day every day man. Yes I drive back to Brooklyn. I don't pay a single fucking surcharge To get into the island or leave the island Damn de Blasio fucked everything up. Yep, and then Eric Adams is trying to fix it, but they're not even gonna give it
Starting point is 00:42:44 They're not even let my guy Eric Adams have a chance. They're not gonna give him I'll dive to Eric Adams right now. I've to Eric. What's his what's his party platform again? It's like it's so insane. He's what I keep seeing signs for it and cracking some unfortunately some of the businesses I love in my neighborhood are big Eric Adams people sure But there it's his thing is like his thing is like coming through showing up or something like what is it? Get stuff done. It's like gee name it. He is camp though. I mean I will say some of the some of the videos he puts out really crack me up. Oh absolutely. I can't wait. He's not trying to be funny. Just to be popping into the cellar. A video guy. You know what I mean. Y'all are lucky tonight. Former mayor Eric Adams is here.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Oh I love it. That'd be great. Yeah. What do you think is the best. Lisa Trager getting You know what I mean? Y'all are lucky tonight, former mayor Eric Adams is here. Oh, I love it, that'd be great. What do you think is the best? Lisa Trager getting bumped because Eric Adams wants to do 30. And Lisa would love that. She would be very calm about that. Josh, what do you think is the best thing
Starting point is 00:43:36 that could happen to you this week? This week? Like what is the best thing that could happen? In general, like the best singular thing you can imagine happening. For me, because of this week and how tired I've been. One I want opening to be slay. Yeah. I want to have a great time at the after party but then I have to do a show the next day. So I'm like for like Tuesday, Wednesday I want to get
Starting point is 00:43:53 enough rest that by like Thursday, Friday I can do this show and in the day I'm like I can go on a big bike ride. Yeah. Like that's what I want is to sort of be back. I want to go on a big bike ride. Yeah. Waking up and being like I have the energy to bike around my beautiful city and then go do my show. Yeah. That's what I want is to sort of be back. I want to go on a big bike ride Yeah, waking up and being like I have the energy to bike around my beautiful city and then go do my show Yeah, that's what I want Where you gonna bike are you gonna wait are you gonna back it up to the show so you can bike to the show or you Gonna do like a no cuz I don't like to bike at night. Yeah You know what I mean, so I don't do that. So I couldn't bike in and bike home after so Really what I like to do is either because I'm in
Starting point is 00:44:24 Williamsburg, Brooklyn, either go down to Prospect Park, do a couple laps, come back. Incredible, by the way. Or go north along the river to Astoria Park. Mm-hmm. Those are my two favorite bikes. Huge. Or biking to Reese is fun, but half of it is awful.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah. Once you get sort of to the coast, there's like a bike highway that's cute as hell. Yeah. Before that, when I say you're like, damn, am I I in st. Louis you're like biking on like six lane highways I don't like it. Yeah, really parts of Queens. I've never heard of yeah, and I love Queens And I've lived here 16 years, but they're inventing new parts Yeah, you to bike through on your way to Reese and they're not inventing it with the idea of you biking through it
Starting point is 00:45:00 I'll tell you that oh, sweetie. It is adversarial the relationship between you and them and them Bugattis. Yeah them street park Bugattis. Hey everybody we are street park Bugatti all we need to get started. That's so good. The bike highway on the west side of Manhattan that I took when I left you the most recently we hung out at the park I love it. Wonderful. When it's just a separate lane away from the road and all it is is cyclists and the occasional person standing there for no reason and you just go move yeah what's your play when they're standing there yeah stay I got a bell and I ding when it's a person standing I bell when it's the only time in the theater I can't use my voice now you're saving the only time I scream I
Starting point is 00:45:42 did it yesterday I was biking is when a car is just turning into the bike lane. I do not slow down, I just start yelling at the top of my lungs, no! Well, sometimes people share those videos and they're like, look at this asshole, and it's like one of the bikers who's sort of aggressively going through the bike lane, like yelling at everyone, and he's being an asshole about it,
Starting point is 00:45:59 but I'm always like, well, he's right. Yeah, also, by the way, cyclists are, I've always said, the cyclist community are at the very top of the being right but making your case unlovable by being an asshole about a community. They're at the top of that community. They are correct and they are not listened to
Starting point is 00:46:14 because they're fucking douchebags. However, spend one day biking through your city and tell me you don't feel the same. When you realize it's coming at all sides. Like cars obviously, but pedestrians. Cause they're just like not aware of you and because you're not a car, they're sort of like walking blindly in front of you, and I'm like baby. I hit you and we both are suffering Yeah, they're leaving shit in the lane. They're often looking to see if a car is coming and then
Starting point is 00:46:34 Not clocking me as a bike coming and I'm having to like throw on brakes to not hit them And I'm like this doesn't end well for us either don't you there's a bike behind me so now I'm throwing on They're almost running into me. Everything's bad when that happens Oh, everything's bad. I don't yell at people though. I think maybe once or twice You know you bike in Copenhagen you bike in Amsterdam you go. Well, this is how it could be Yeah, you know, we can't be neoliberal here putting it at individual actors. It's systems. Thank you. It's systems Thank you. That was that's what I'm here to say. That was powerful your listeners like this Well, we've done inside baseball and now policy.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Or deep leftist policy about bike lanes. Well, now all we need to do is have you talk about an album you've got coming out. Damn, but y'all remember He, A-Ron, I'm Just JK. Like we were coming out so hot. We came out swinging. And I think your people, I'm not in the comments of your thing as much.
Starting point is 00:47:22 So you'd know, I think they like our vibe. Me and you together? Yeah, like the jokes, of course, but I think they see there's a certain, you know, energy. There's a kinship. And you can tell by the number of times that both of us are speaking. That's kinship. I mean, for us as gay and Southern. One of the comments that did get to me not about your podcast, about somebody else's, they were like, oh, I just feel like Josh talks a lot. And I'm like, well, I'm the guest. You think they invited me here to not talk? Yeah, what would you have me do?
Starting point is 00:47:47 Darling, my friend loves when I talk, trust. Yeah, so you need to get on board. Yeah, get on board. Yeah, get on board with Josh. I'm on board with Josh talking, that's why I have you here. I'm on board with Caleb. And also, two gay men can speak at the same time and both hear each other.
Starting point is 00:47:59 It's sort of one of our special talents. Do you know what I mean? Gay men are really good at talking over, and yet I just did it to you, and I heard you say? That's what people don't understand. Damon are really good at talking over and yet I just did it to you and I heard you say, that's what people don't understand. I know everything you said. That's what people don't understand. We're just like, we're on it.
Starting point is 00:48:11 We're on it. It's a superpower forged. It's a superpower forged from God given to us. It's four dimensional. Yeah, it's given to us by God. And we of course foster and culture it, but it was given to us directly from God. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Y'all are down on the ground, I'm up in outer space, you know what I mean? You're so 2000 and late. Yeah Really? Absolutely. If you think about it, I'm 2025 reelect Eric Adams on the get stuff done stuff done You should run Run run run run a five a turkey trot. There you go. I found it run, run, run, a five, a turkey trot. There you go. I found it. Yeah. I have a request, keep the embarrassing story
Starting point is 00:48:50 where I confess to being excited to learn the times was there, but I want you to cut the part in which I stutter over 5K. So it goes right from run a, and it goes directly to turkey trot. Turkey trot, yeah. You've certainly never watched me do the ads on this show, but the number of times I just completely fuck up an ad and go, leave it in, I'm human. I've
Starting point is 00:49:10 just stopped, I don't edit them anymore, I'm like, they need to know. That stutter was humiliating and they need to know. This is who I am. Rosemary's granddaughter, spitting image of my father. Rosemary's granddaughter? Do you know this song? No. I for some reason thought it was maybe a joke on Rosemary's baby. No. No, go ahead and sing. Rosemary's granddaughter. Do you know this song? No. I am. For some reason thought it was maybe a joke on Rosemary's baby. No. Rosemary, no. Go ahead and sing. Rosemary's granddaughter.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Spinning image of my father. Wait, what song is this? And when the day is done, my mama's still my biggest fear. Cause now it's feeling familiar. Who I Am by Jessica Andrews, One Hit Wonder. Sorry Jessica, that was seems that, I don't mean that derogatorily. I think having a hit is a beautiful gift.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Are you kidding? And so to have one hit is like most people have zero hits. Can we actually talk about that? Well, there are songs and I'm about to mention one that's not a one hit wonder but there's songs like Like tears for fears. Everybody wants to rule the world. Yeah, when that song comes on I go if I wrote this in 1980 Whatever. Mm-hmm. I could be like I'm done creatively I could wake up every day hear that song in the radio and go well life Well lived yeah, like there's some where I'm like, are you kidding? Yeah, one hit one hit is all it takes one hit it all it takes
Starting point is 00:50:14 I just think like respect no we use one hit wonder as I think sometimes culturally it's seen as an insult Think about your number. I don't know. You're going the word wonder. It's really, we should be in awe. Wonder, wonder's the big part. We should have wonder at these people. Because they had a hit. We should fall upon our knees in the glory that is this one hit. By the way.
Starting point is 00:50:37 You know what I mean? In deep awe, in deep, we should be overcome. We should be speaking in tongues. 99.7% of the world's population lives their entire lives without having a hit. When Bitch by Meredith Brooks comes on, fall to your knees and speak in tongues. What am I? A bitch? A lover? A mother? A child? I mean, who else could've? No one did. That's what matters. No one did. I feel really passionate about that and I got very worked up and I had pizza for lunch
Starting point is 00:51:05 So my tummy is just a little ups, you know upset, but it's I'm just I'm rife for something to go wrong I see that and I can't have any more caffeine today I told myself and yet I'm about to do a caffeine challenge with you for our sponsor Red Bull XXL I wish Red Bull we're gonna we're gonna chug caffeine's Red Bull advertise with us Red Bull advertise with us. They've been getting into Red Bull for the first time in my life. I've never had one Well, here's the thing as someone who doesn't do powders. Yeah at the club. Yeah, cuz one there's all this shit going around Yeah, too. I got the love of Christ. What more energy do I need than the love of Christ? God is in you Yeah, I don't know a bushel. No. Yes. And most of all, I got that deviated septum.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah. It's not worth it. Right. So I have half a Red Bull. I'm like, why are any of y'all doing cocaine? Yeah. My heart is thumpa thumpa. I can be up till seven on half a Red Bull.
Starting point is 00:51:55 It's working like that. OK. So once a month when I'm at the club, half a Red Bull. I've never had one. And I think maybe I would benefit from it. I would like to develop a nasty drug problem. I think for a while and I don't mean which which era Yeah, I think cuz I'll say it's hard to imagine being in my 80s and not being like let's give heroin a go, right? I mean, there's a certain one. Come on heroin's the enticing one. Not now. Not now. It's not the right time
Starting point is 00:52:21 You're on set at four in the morning Coming in I'm coming in doing heroin now. I mean it just won't work. And this is not to trivialize anyone, so how to track problem, of course. But for me I do think I live so, um, I just think my life could benefit from it artistically. From a big problem. And there's nothing trivial about it, and even when there is, remember we are the jesters. I'm a court jester.
Starting point is 00:52:42 It's actually our job to trivialize. And there's power in trivializing. I'm a court jester. It's actually our job to trivialize and there's power in trivializing I am clown your issue is when you go don't trivialize that oh that has a negative connotation to you Yeah for me trivializing is one of the highest forms. Oh, yeah, you know, thank you Are we not clown? Are we not jester? You've changed my do we not have an essential role in the culture? Teehee and haha. I posted me. I just look the culture from afar and go, well that's a little funny. There's something a little off about that. This is our ministry.
Starting point is 00:53:12 For listeners only, you can't see how beautifully Josh just emphasized his point. Sort of, let me see, listeners, tell us in the Spotify comments if you get what I'm about to do. This is our ministry. Yeah. That was that.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I think there's a silent version of ASMR that just happened. You heard nothing, but you could feel it. You fell energetically. You fell energy. I bet there are people just listening right now who will inherently do what we just did and then come over to the YouTube to say, I got it right. I actually bet.
Starting point is 00:53:39 This is witchy. I bet we can send them things with our mind. Yeah. Wait, I'm gonna think of a number. I was gonna do the exact same thing. Let's let's think of both think of a number Well, I'll do it first. Okay, and I want or do you want to go first? I just want to actually think of it and send it to them and I want you the listener at home to say out loud What you think it is and I'm gonna say what it is. I bet a lot of them are gonna be right
Starting point is 00:53:57 Are you gonna give any parameters? I'm a number between usually people do that just to help know I trust your okay days Fuck they don't need that shit. Fuck. Okay. Okay. First or second. I want to go second, and I want to just Okay, okay, okay? I'm not gonna make I'm about to make no noise Yeah, for like ten seconds yes in that ten seconds, and then I and then I'm gonna go won't be ten seconds By the way, it'll be probably five It's gonna be ten Did that to me, it's gonna be 10 seconds and keep it in. And then at the end of that, I'm gonna go say the number
Starting point is 00:54:29 and you and your home or your car or at the gym or during sex with your husband, say the number and then I'll tell you what it was. Okay, so, okay. And here I'm sending it. it. Hold on Josh. Okay. Hold on. Keep your eyes closed. I want to I want to signal to Chance now what I think it is just so there's proof on the record of what I was thinking of. That's good. Eyes are closed. And now I'm keeping my eyes closed. Do you feel like the, and now I feel the listener
Starting point is 00:55:07 can say out loud what you know, what you know the number is because I've sent it to you. Say the number now listener, now. And the number that you received from me was 69. Oh! What'd you think? I'm scared to say. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Because it's so far off. What do you want to try and guess? Hold on, I'm thinking of a number. No, now you do it. Now you do it. Okay, I'm thinking of a number I'm scared to say. That's okay. Because it's so far off. Would you want to try and guess? Hold on, I'm thinking of a number. No, now you do it. Now you do it. Okay, I'm thinking of a number. Send it to them. And this is for listeners only.
Starting point is 00:55:30 God, y'all thought Inside Baseball Musicians was bad. Listener. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Be careful what you wish for. Listeners, this is for only you. If you're viewing, you might have already seen. Ghost of Christmas Gay coming to hunt your ass. I'm sending you a number, listeners only.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Viewers, you've already seen because I flashed it to chance. Listeners, I'm sending you a number listeners only viewers you've already seen because I flashed it to chance listeners. I'm sending you a number. You now know that it is not 69. I want you to say listeners say now my number say now. Do you want to guess? Okay. Your number was
Starting point is 00:56:04 454. it was 13 Wow Wow but but you have to admit right I mean take a look you have to admit because 1369 and 454 13 times 69 is 454 I bet run that back I bet run that chance run those numbers run that back there. It is he just showed us It's that's what that 13 times 69 450 look at that. That's crazy wait. That's crazy show them Trying to get trying to gaslight my audience crazy, but that says 450 for we can't enough of these people have been in grippy socks That's not sharp to da.com4 we can't enough of these people have been in grippy socks sharp tada.com
Starting point is 00:56:46 We can't play these Come there. It's gonna hurt these people. They're unwell. I Actually would pay money to know how many of my listeners have been in an institution. It's a lot. It's a lot It's a lot. I know it because a lot of my friends have so I'm like I can't even imagine what I'm sending out. I Don't want to go there. So I'm like, I can't even imagine what I'm sending out. I don't want to go there. Not when I'm in previews. I have tech. I can't.
Starting point is 00:57:10 I have tech. I can't. I have tech. I can't right now, Caleb. I have tech. Wait, I have a segment for you. Segment time. What's so true to you, Josh Sharp?
Starting point is 00:57:21 Oh, yeah. Oh, god. I really wasn't prepared for that. Do you want to think about that while I do true or false with you Yeah, okay, I'm giving you time I do Joshua Cassandra sharp I'm going to read you 15 statements You're gonna tell me as quickly as you can if you think what I just said is true or false And if you get ten or more correct, and you didn't even know I was gonna do this because this is not the normal one
Starting point is 00:57:39 I'm gonna do a different prize if you get ten or more correct I am going to pay for two random listeners of this show to come see to die in New York City This is amazing, but if you don't get them right, I'm not paying for those tickets I'll buy tickets for listeners and you can find out how to pick them you and chance can work that out Okay, but I will pay for two people to come see your show in New York City. Okay understood. Okay? Guy Fieri is six foot eight false policies five foot ten on Gilligan's Island It was never revealed if Gilligan was his first or last name True that is true more people live in South Carolina than North Carolina
Starting point is 00:58:13 False false it takes Uranus four years to orbit the Sun once False false 84 years miss piggy and Yoda are played by the same person True true Frank Oz the largest statue in the world is the Statue of Unity in India True true aunt Queens lived to be 30 years old Aunt Queens like the Queens of an ant colony mm-hmm false true Tom Hanks was born in Canada false false Meg Ryan can you tell I'm working on not giving it away with my voice anymore. Yeah, Meg Ryan fucking crushing nailing it Meg Ryan has an asteroid named after her
Starting point is 00:58:53 Well, I just from a place of deep hope true true the Book of Mormon opened on Broadway in 2008 False false 2011 yeah,onna means mother in Italian. False? False, grandmother. The phone number for Empire today is 800-588-2300. 800-588-2300. 800-588. That 2300 800 588 that part's definitely true 2300 God I'm gonna go false true damn 2300 Empire I was like is the 23 are you tricking me with the 2300 that's okay 2300 Empire that's why zebras have six toes on each foot false false just one Nickelback performed the song Lips of an Angel. False? False, it was Hender. Smallville ran for ten seasons. True. It's true.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Jesus Christ, thirteen? Joshua Cassandra Sharp, I'm so proud of you. Okay, you guys figure out how to find those listeners. This is huge. And I'll buy some tickets. Yeah, what would be the most fun way to do it chance? Maybe we leave two at the box office and just say whoever gets to the box office first and yells No, fuck your face or no. We can't have people yelling especially not something like that
Starting point is 01:00:17 What about whoever gets the most light on this episode? That's whoever gets a whoever posts a comment on in on the YouTube and gets the most likes Well, that's their problem. Yeah, well then they've got two tickets to give to whoever. Yeah, then they can give it to whoever. Or what a great reason for a trip. You got two free tickets to the hottest ticket for summer. To the New York Times, sure to be hot reviewed show. Ta-da! New York Times is like, like dicks, it sucks.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Much like dicks. Josh Sharp does not have it, they declare. We're calling it, we've seen enough. Josh, the 538 calls it. Josh Sharp doesn't have it they declare we're calling it. We've seen enough Josh at the 538 calls it Josh Sharp doesn't have it Nate what's his name Nate silver yeah, he calls it mm-hmm he calls it they implicate me as well These two don't have it and they talk at the same time too damn much mm-hmm Yeah, they should take a more cattillion classes. God. We all should God wouldn't it be nice Some of these girls need manners.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Yeah, they really do. You know what I'm having a craving for? What? I wanna do a voicemail with you. Chance and I were just saying we don't do the voicemails anymore. Put your headphones on. Yeah, let's do one.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Hello, Caleb and guests. So I just wanted to call in and let you guys know that I got married a few days ago. And for our wedding menu, we had chicken wings and they were delicious they were smoked for hours then deep fried and I just want to know what's your ideal wedding what is what is your your guys's ideal weddings look like what's the food what are you wearing what's your partner wearing so let me know thank you and I know that's a big girl by the. I know that's a big girl, by the way.
Starting point is 01:01:46 I know that's a big girl. And I wanna thank you for calling in, big girl. Thank you. I'll tell you my ideal wedding. What I want. Go. Okay, if I were to marry somebody who really cared about weddings,
Starting point is 01:01:58 I would defer to them and do whatever they wanted. I do not like weddings. I don't wanna be invited to a wedding. I do not wanna come to your wedding. I'm sorta with you. Everybody thinks I'm doing a cool version of a wedding. I do not like weddings. I don't want to be invited to a wedding. I do not want to come to your wedding. I'm sort of with you. Everybody thinks I'm doing a cool version of a wedding. You're sort of not unless you, unless you fully don't do it at all. You're not. That's the only cool wedding. You can't avoid being a part of the industrial wedding complex.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I am begging you. If you are my close friend and you are listening to this chance, please clip this. Do not invite me to your wedding. I don't wanna come. I don't wanna come and everyone thinks they're the exception. I don't wanna come to your wedding. I'm not fully there. I'll still go to some, but I just never, I don't buy that it's like, ours is the fun one. But the exception is my brother's wedding.
Starting point is 01:02:35 It was the fun one. I believe you. I don't wanna come. I don't wanna come to your wedding. I officiated my friend's wedding. Can I pitch why my brother's wedding was good? I loved it. Of course he's my brother, so I'm biased.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Go ahead, tell it. One, he's a musician. Of course he's my brother so I'm biased. Go ahead, tell it. One, he's a musician and so he got some of his incredibly talented musician friends, many of which I think you know. Yes. Rachel Price of Lake Street Dive at all to do a little pre-concert as just like a, come on girls, let's like play some music. And I hope he got up and did Louise by the way.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Say that. Because you know I want to hear Louise. Also let's clock MIPSO, farewell tour. Let's clock that. This summer fall please see the band clock Mipso farewell tour. Let's talk this summer fall Please see the band Mipso. You're gonna go with me in Brooklyn Yeah, actually I have something to say to you off off pod about that. Okay, um Also because he sells fancy wine to fancy restaurants He got a bunch of cool restaurants that don't cater weddings to be like well, we'll do yours
Starting point is 01:03:22 Yeah, so I mean you weren't doing the normal sort of like wedding food. It was like people who were like, let's just like, so it did actually sort of feel like a dinner party. Yeah. Damn. But and so unfortunately it's the rare exception where I was like, damn, you just have to truly adamantly work with only people who've never done a wedding before in their lives. Yeah. My friend recently, I was telling him how much I hate weddings because he had had one and he didn't invite me and I thanked him for it. And he said, well, that's just, you have such a wrong opinion because it's the only time you can get all your friends together. And I said, I don't need that. I don't need all the friends from the different
Starting point is 01:03:56 walks of my life to get together. And then, you know, they're not kind of wanting to do. I'm like, I don't need that. I don't know what the, you say that as if it's like an inherently understood good thing. And we're all this to say the wedding I do is this. Me and my partner would go to the courthouse with whatever amount of witnesses we need to have. They would ideally not be family, just two random people from our lives, whoever's free. I maybe I called somebody and say, what are you doing right now? They say nothing. I say, come to City Hall. We need witnesses. We get married. Then we send a letter. It's John Cena. Yes. That's who you who you call yes it's John Cena and Eric Andre from from Netflix's little brother and we we send a letter to everyone we love that says hey we got married two months from now
Starting point is 01:04:33 we're throwing a party here's the date no dress code no gifts come if you want to if not you can buy us dinner sometime if you feel like it love you very much perfect that is the perfect wedding no notes that's the perfect wedding no notes one party no dress code no gifts If you don't come we explicitly do not care. Ugh. I love it. No notes. And that's it. By the way, my mom would get that letter. That's, everyone's getting the letter. It's across the board treatment with the letter. You're gonna throw a filter on the letter for your mom? I'm gonna smooth it. I'm smoothing the letter. Okay. I'm smoothing mother. You've changed. Mother has smoothed. Mother has smoothed. has smooth what's your ideal wedding no it's that that's literally that it's like you got to just sort of not have a wedding and throw a party later on I've had several friends
Starting point is 01:05:09 do that that's the best way to do it I like respect to everyone in their weddings I know it means a lot to you I love you I love you but yeah I love you shout out to all my friends we got married this is you know this is this is talking to your straight friends about, you know, baseball or whatever. I love that you love that shit. It is pastoral and boring to me, but I love that you love it. Specifically baseball, by the way.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Yeah, exactly. Specifically baseball. I went to a WNBA game, got my life. You know what I mean? Like, some sports are good. Well, you know, we're theater people. Basketball has narrative. Baseball does not.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Football does. I'm telling you, football is, if you watch football with me, you'd be into it. I knew you were gonna feel this way. You know, we're theater people. Basketball has narrative. Yeah. Baseball does not. Football does. I'm telling you, football is, if you watch football with me, you'd be into it. I knew you were gonna feel this way. I think soccer does, but football doesn't. Soccer? Soccer has a very avant-garde fluid narrative.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Soccer is a boring-ass sport. Energies shift on a dime. Football. You have to be locked in. You haven't watched football, Joshua. I've watched it. It's a lot of standing around waiting to set up a play. There's too much pause. You are sick. It's war. It's not narrative. It's war. You are sick. It's war. Soccer's a boring game for I can't stand it. And the course, the guys are cute, but that's what makes it so gay.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Soccer is just an boring lame. And I can't even talk to people from Britain anymore. Damn again, because half the time it's all they'll talk about. This is trivialized. You say this like it's a negative thing. I'm your standing soccer because it's for, yeah. That's what I love about it. Whereas your ass is like, Oh, let me go down to the NFL arena where a bunch of alt-right oil billionaires have paid men of color to give each other concussions. Go ahead, go ahead. I have internalized homophobia. I will never forget, I will never forget on this show
Starting point is 01:06:50 when Alex English said something during his interview and I said, well what would you say to people that think that's maybe internalized homophobia? And he goes, that's okay to have. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Our culture can't self-love. We give it to so many other cultures. I said tell them Alex. There's so many cultures that have made self-loathing a part of their charm. Let gay people do it. Yeah. Oh, and that's okay to have is such a funny
Starting point is 01:07:16 response to that accusation. And that's okay to have. That's okay to have. Yes. Yes. Ever heard of it? Next. What is so true to you Joshua Sharp? Joshua Cassandra Sharp? Um So true to me is and I don't know if everyone in this room is gonna agree with me We have to embrace summer and by that I mean Get outside and sweat and sometimes people are like, oh, I'm so sweaty. It feels awful. That's your body working Yeah, you know, that's your body cooling you down and there's certain There's a certain liberation and sort of giving up and going you know what? I'm gonna be sweaty and clammy and gross and aren't we all yeah, you know
Starting point is 01:07:50 I mean like take a bath in the discomfort. Yes. Enjoy summer Let your body sweat and don't be don't be mad about it. Yes. Do you know what I mean? I do and do you know a lot of people like I'm sweating like that's that's good We're all doing that you would be so fucking hot if your body didn't have a natural way to Cool you down which is sweat. Yeah, so like if you're gonna be a summer girl be a summer girl I'm gonna prescribe something to you Josh. I want you to listen to the Annie deRusso song. It's good to be hot in the summer Because that what you're talking about is a philosophy that she posited on her most recent album I want all of you right now to go stream. It's good to be hot in the summer by Annie deRusso
Starting point is 01:08:23 I've been listening to it. I think that's the point It's the point and she specifically is talking about I'm done when it's 95 outside going in and turning the AC on 68 I'm sweating. I'm enjoying the summer. You just gotta it's good to be hot in the summer It's good to be hot in the summer I agree a visionary artist with a visionary message that completely aligns with what you're saying a visionary artist with a visionary message Thank you. That's what you are. I'm gonna get any a last-minute invite opening would you please would you please I'm sure I'm sure they will have that I'm sure I'm sure your team will be like oh, thank you Josh throwing people on at the last minute. We love it Okay, well, I just love you. Is there anything you want to leave the people with no no I feel blessed to be here
Starting point is 01:09:01 I love you dearly we feel blessed to have you well Josh sharp to da.com If you're if you're if you're any other than the two got free tickets That's where you're gonna have to go make your case in the comments for why you deserve it make your case in the YouTube comments And we'll find a way to get a hold of the chance I trust you to pick that you do that chance will figure that out. He's good He's good at that sort of stuff. I can't get in there as the artist It wouldn't be right for me to pick no it's not right. We need a third party Yeah, you know or else we're gonna have a lala land situation again I mean, you know what else you know, I mean we need it. We need a clearinghouse. Does the show have its own Instagram?
Starting point is 01:09:32 It does it's another way we could have done it is by following. Oh, that's true But we're gonna keep it on the comments That's what we're headed to now that we're saying it while you're there You know what if follow Josh sharp today? I'm not gonna say Chance isn't gonna look more favorably on you if he sees you follow that. Yeah, Chance, maybe we do something on the social media where we say we'll definitely pick someone's voicemail
Starting point is 01:09:55 if they prove to us that they follow Josh's show. That could be helpful. We'll depict their voicemail for something. I love this, I love this. We wanna help. We like to be part of the story. And as I've always said, look for the helpers. Look for the helpers. That's you originated that. I originated that on my children's television show. Josh, we love you. Thanks for doing it.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Bless you. Bye honey. Bye sugar. That was a hate gum podcast.

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