So True with Caleb Hearon - Joyelle Nicole Johnson is Protecting Her Peace

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

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This is a HeadGum Podcast. There are differences in people, but the differences are not... There's more in common. There's more in common. People want to pay their bills, they want to hang out with their friends, they want to take care of their family. Absolutely. That's it. Everything else is just fun.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why I say, if you don't like gays, you ain't met a fun one. Yeah. Joyal. Hey, boo. What's going on?

Oh my God. Yeah. Hahaha! Joyal! Hey boo! What's going on? Oh my gosh, I'm here. I did it. You did it. I'm so happy to see you. I'm so happy to see you too.

I haven't seen you, I don't think, since we shared a joint in your car outside the Bell House. That sounds about right. That sounds like us. That sounds like something I did. That actually sounds like us. What's going on with you? What have you been up to? Here in the world, I'm in New York.

I should probably not leave Brooklyn too often. No. No, let's stay in Brooklyn. Yes, I like that bubble. I love the bubble of Brooklyn. So I came to the city for you today, darling. Hey, trust me, I've been trying to get Headgum to move this office. I said, let's move the studio to Brooklyn. It's a podcasting studio. We all live in Brooklyn. Yes, everybody does. No one lives anywhere else, right? No one's over here. We're coming into the city. What am I a finance guy? Right. What do I run Wall Street? What do I have a job? Right. And I

do not have a job. I'm a comedian. For sure. It's a fake job. The one I have. No, no, no, no. We would get fired, I assume you as well. Oh, and I did. And I. And I did. Same Z. Yeah, I was not good at being employed. No, no, no, no.

I wasn't good at them saying, you have to be here at this time. And I was like, I'll get there-ish. I had a coworker, I don't want to say her name because I don't know if she'd want me blowing up her spot that way, but I had a coworker in Chicago who was a little bit older than me and very't know if she'd want me blowing up her spot that way, but I had a coworker in Chicago who was a little bit older than me and very good at her job

and she would come in an hour and a half late and I would do the same thing because she was doing it. I was like, I look up to her and I kept getting in trouble but she wasn't and I was like, we would go to lunch together all the time and I was like, how do you get away with this? Because you're so, she was like, well number one, I'm very good at my job and you're not doing a very good good job. And I was like, period. Okay. I was like, and by the way,

she was like, I also stay late if work needs to be done, you come late and then leave early. Do you see you come late? Don't do a good job and leave early. I said, yeah, you are correct. Sounds great. Thank you. And a good day to you. Yeah, I said, absolutely. She said, yeah, start doing a better job. They'll probably leave you alone I said sounds good And I did actually stated that job a little longer because there was a gumbo truck That used to stop in front of the building that I really liked yeah So I was like I'll stay for an extra two months just to keep eating lunch at the gumbo truck gumbo truck It was awesome dude in Chicago these guys Chicago winter, they would come and they would just have these

big ass bowls of fucking, you know, all the good, like really, really good gumbo. They had big pieces of andouille and shrimp in it. They put shrimp in it, which a lot of places that are doing gumbo, they skimp on the shrimp and they have big fat pieces of okra and I would just every day in the Chicago winter, in like zero degrees, I'd go get a bowl of I would just every day in the Chicago winter Yeah, and like zero degrees I'd go get a bowl of it and come back up to the office and just yeah, and then be comatose the rest of the day I love that. Yeah, I I love going to Chicago. I go there a lot really. Oh, I love Chicago Where do you play when you go there? They would tape wait wait out there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, be at the studio

Bigger was doing a big theater that thing's old It is old and the hotel that we stay in is old too It's one of them hotels like old white men like a senator would like yeah Like those hotels like a boutique like a little like a moxie. I like a you know I mean, I need a bar at the bottom. That's like trendy something happening down there I don't even stay at the hotel come in yes exactly that exactly that that's what I like See my rule on hotels is it needs to have been built in the last 50 years people that don't even stay at the hotel come in. Yes, exactly that, exactly that. That's what I like. See, my rule on hotels is it needs to have been built

in the last 50 years and it needs to be four star or better. Yeah, because they feel haunted sometimes. Yes. There's a hotel in, I think it was Cleveland, that used to be like a mall and it looks like the inside of a ship. It's so big, but now it's kind of abandoned. I slept with the light on. I was like, the ghost ain't getting me.

Don't come in Joyelle's room. Thank you very much. I was like, if they're going to be in here, I ain't going to see them, you know, because the lights is on. Because that's the ghost trick. If the light is on, they ain't going to get you. If it's dark, you can see them. Yeah, they're going to get you in the dark. What was the last regular job you had? Last year.

You nannied for Upper West Side kids, right? Or taught yoga or something? I did, I did. I taught at a school that wasn't a real school. It was all one-on-one instruction. It was all very pretend. It was like babysitting, clarified babysitting. That was, yeah, that was the last job I,

and I quit that job. Yeah. Before they had a chance to find me. It was a very dramatic quitting too. I enjoyed that. How'd you do it? Well, so. Set the scene. I can blow up this spot because the head of the school, that's what they called the principal,

the head of the school. And it was this white woman who had never had a job before. So she, it was her first job was head of the school. They find was this white woman who had never had a job before. So she, it was her first job was head of the school. They find themselves in that position a lot. They really do. White women find themselves in charge of stuff a lot when they've never done something. They've never done something not knowing the DEI is about them too.

So this lady, she was crazy. And for example, a lot of rich kids would come, and Bowie Iman came one day, and she was considering her daughter to come to the school. So she comes up to me, and she's like, okay, so do you know the model Iman? And I was like, yeah. And she's like, well, she's coming to the school today, so I was like, okay. So what? So what? And then she was's like, well, she's coming to the school today, so I was like, okay. So what?

So what? And then she was just like, you know, I just wanted to let you know. And I was like, okay. I immediately go to my friends, because I was one of the only black teachers. I was like, did she come in here and tell y'all that mom was coming today?

And they were like, no. I said, that's goofy, bitch. What does she think I was gonna do? She was like, I just want you specifically, for no reason, to know. You specifically to know that the greatest supermodel of all time is coming today. And she walked in looking like a super villain. Her nails were beautiful and long.

She had on a sweatsuit with four-inch stilettos, and I was just like my queen. You know? And you know, I just acted like a human being. But when I quit, it was because they, we got these little offices, they were all about this size and they told us to decorate the office. So I was the yoga instructor slash dance teacher.

So I decorated the office. I put like movie posters up and all this stuff. She told the boss of me, she was like, well, Joyelle needs to take some of those decorations down because they don't have anything to do with dance and yoga. And I was like, movies don't have anything to do with dance? Pardon? Okay, so my dramatic ass took all the decorations

off the wall. Hey, blank office. Blake. Fuck it, blank office. Since you've given notes. Cabula Rossa, mix. How about you tell me what you want off the wall. Hey, blank office. Fuck it, blank office. Since you've given notes. Cabula rasa. How about you tell me what you want on the wall. Because you told us to decorate, it was like a competition with the teachers to be like,

oh, everybody decorate. I said, the math teacher got a Game of Thrones poster on the wall. What that got to do with math unless you count dead bodies and titties. So I took all the shit off and I was like, you know what, I should probably quit because then she told my boss again,

she was like, okay, could you tell her to put something back up on the walls? I was like, no, you need to let me know what you want on the walls, bitch. How about you come decorate the office? How about you come decorate the office? You're so invested. You ain't tell nobody else what to take

and what to put on the walls. And I had the kids engaged, like they would come, I had quotes, movie quotes on the walls, and they'd be like, oh wow, what movie is that? Da da da da, and all that stuff. And I was like, girl, please, you're just trying to control a black woman. But it sounds like it.

But what you won't do. Yeah, and you know what, we're taking that off the walls. Yes, absolutely. Get out of here. I gave two weeks notice, that's the first time I've ever given two weeks notice. Oh my God, did you really? Yes.

That's classy. It's a romantic. Yeah, I like that. I tried to give two weeks notice once, and did you really yeah that's classy yeah I like that yeah I didn't I tried to give two weeks notice once and they're like you can go yeah no thank you like we're giving you we wanted you out two weeks ago no you're not giving us two weeks notice absolutely yeah we're not suited for the no office I hung on a lot of places purely I know I know for a fact though the last day job I had The last job I had the last day job I had was in I was an administrative assistant at an ad agency

And I know for a fact that I my boss probably wanted to fire me within the first month I hung on for a year plus just because everyone else in the office liked me Yeah, I was a person out like they kept me around Let me hire they kept people have to kept taking pay cuts and stuff because the company wasn't doing well just because everyone else in the office liked me. I was a personality. They kept me around. Personality hire. People kept taking pay cuts and stuff because the company wasn't doing well. And it was like kind of the company's going under vibes. People kept leaving and stuff.

And I was just coming in every day being like, what do we want for lunch, y'all? Come on! Keeping it going. You need that person. Who are we gonna gossip with? Yeah, I was walking around. I was keeping everybody in good spirits.

I'm talking shit on the people who need to be talked shit on. Absolutely. Did you see what she was wearing? Yeah, I was keeping things going. Yeah, me and the front desk lady had a real rapport. We were making things happen. Yeah, I think my personality kept me in more jobs than I should have stayed the length of. It definitely kept me in more paychecks than I lost out on because of it. I know that. I did lose out on some long-term money because of the way I am, but it kept me in money.

Because of how you be? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I just have an attitude problem and I'm not good at being told what to do. Absolutely, no, you can't tell me what to do. Yeah. You can't. No, even if I want to do it.

Right! Because if you tell me to do it, now I don't want to do it. No, I don't want to do it. Now I'm mad. Yeah, because now it's what, your idea, now I what, work for you? Right, are you giving me a check? No, I'm disgusted, and even if they it. No, I don't want to do it. No, I'm mad. No, yeah, cuz now it's what your idea now I what work for you Now I'm disgusted and even if they have

Nobody can get me to do anything Where you been recently you've been in you've been in New York mostly as of late. Um, I've been traveling outside of The country I would say the country of Brooklyn. Um, I think we should need passports to get in. Yeah, every time I go out, it's been just weird, especially ever since that election. I don't feel safe elsewhere. I went to Vermont for New Year's. I got racially discriminated against not once, but twice.

In where at? Burlington? Vermont! Burlington, Vermont! What happened? I was on the way. We don't want to talk about that. If you don't want to, by the way. I'm like, I'm happy to, but we do not have to. Oh, for sure, I love talking about race.

So I got on the airplane, and I usually get first class just because that's less room for error. You know, what's going on back there? It's a free for all back there. When they've overbooked the flight and they start looking at people they need to kill, they don't look in my section. They don't look in my section.

So that's why I'm up there. Yes, and it's more of a peace of mind. And it's interesting because the racism be different when you coach versus first class. First class white racism is being like, what do you do for a living? They asked me that the second I said that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? They're like, how?

Yeah, how? How? Why? And frankly, when. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? They're like, how? Yeah, how? How? Why? And frankly, when and where? Yes, exactly. So I get on this plane, and you know how if you're like, if the flight is full, they say you got to gate check the bag, but they leave room for the first class cabin.

So I get on the plane last usually, and the woman swiped in and she was like, oh, your first class, there might be space, but if there isn't, just come back and I'll go check your bag. So I get on the plane and it's a white dude, the white steward or whatever, he was like, oh, you need to check that bag. And I was like, oh, the first class looks like it has room.

He was like, no, you need to be seated in first class to put your bag up there. I was like, I am in first class. And he goes, no, your seats need to be in first class. And I was like, did you think I did? Okay, hold on. No. This is getting out of control.

Yeah. You're so racist, your brain has actually stopped being able to work? To work? You thought I meant I'm in a first class state of mind? I don't know. What did you mean? He said, no ma'am, first class is a situation where he tries to explain it to you. Absolutely.

And that shit pissed me off. And then I fucking, so the rest of the flight was just kind of awkward. And I ended up dropping my phone in my seat. Fuck. I get off the airplane, and I was like, oh, I have my phone. I go to the Delta desk, and I was like, oh, my phone, the Find My app says my phone is here.

She was like, oh, it's definitely on the plane. Let me call. She walkies to the plane, and it had to be that same steward. He was like, I don't see a phone. And she was like, well, I'm looking at her computer right now, the phone's for sure on the airplane. He was like, I don't see it and I need to load

the next flight. So I watched my phone take off from Burlington to go to JFK, I watched my phone go to Penn Station into Newark, New Jersey and my phone right now is in Guyana right now. Someone just grabbed it? Yeah. I mean afterwards because the cleanup crew, it's a free for all.

They tell you. That's why they tell you to get your shit because your shit go get jacked. Yeah. And I'm like, obviously people must leave phones all the time and if you got a dude that's going to give you a hundred bucks for a phone, I got five phones from the time and if you got a dude that's gonna give you a hundred bucks for a phone I got five phones from the flight today yeah so I messaged Delta about it and they were just like oh our bad I was like no no miles yeah no miles no nothing oh nothing nothing so yeah I'm trying to like switch switch the airlines I got platinum status and I got platinum status now you act like that so that was the first that was on the way, I'm trying to like switch the airlines. I got platinum status and I got platinum status now.

You act like that. So that was the first, that was on the way. So I'm in Burlington headlining for New Year's Eve and I don't have a phone. But luckily I was with my boyfriend. So I was able to be with him and go through phone with him. I get to the hotel after the shows, had two great shows. It was great.

Couple of us go back to my room. We're talking spiritedly, we're not quiet, but we're also not blasting music. It's not like Mitch Hedberg, you know what I'm saying? It's a hotel. It's a hotel, it's New Year's Eve. Dude bangs on the door. You too loud, and if you don't be quiet,

I'm calling the police. Like, start it with the police. Employee? Employ'm calling the police. Like, start it with the police. Employee? Employee of the hotel. Start it with I'm calling the cops on you. And I'm like, ayo. First of all, we're about to go to sleep. It was maybe like two o'clock in the morning.

And I was like, but also, who the fuck is you talking to? Right. Are you crazy? Like, are you crazy? He was like, you can get kicked out of the hotel. And I was like, sure, whatever kicked out of the hotel and I was like sure whatever So we wrap up our conversations. I ended up getting to an argument and losing a friend that night. It was a crazy we can He came back

So he comes back and he was like I said Like he's my father. I was like, okay, which we said he's like well, I'm calling, I don't care what you said. He's like, well, I'm calling the police. You need to leave the hotel. He was trying to kick me out of the hotel on New Year's Eve at 3 a.m. I was like, I'm not leaving. And he's like, well, then I'll call the police. I was like, call him.

And I slammed the door on his face. He did not call the police. The next day, we're packing up to leave. They called the room and they were like, you need to leave the premises. And it's like, oh yeah, that's how hotels work. Yeah. We're checking out. We're checking out. We were going to do that. Yeah. We walked downstairs and this like very piffy, fabulous little country gay man hands me a piece of paper and he goes, we're trespassing you.

I was like, what does that mean? I have a document that says I can no longer go to the In Burlington I am praying with that They put my whole government name on the thing and they had like a little insignia from the Burlington Police Department and next to it It said this is not an official police document So these motherfuckers handed me a document saying, we're trespassing you. That is crazy. New Year's Day.

First day of the year. Welcome to 2025. Welcome to 2025, being black and Burlington. That is crazy. I had a white flight attendant try to involve me in some weird racism. I was like, I was minding my own business. She tried to involve me and a white guy next to me. She was some little white lady who was being real kooky on our flight. I didn't even tell you all about this.

Y'all were on the same flight, but y'all were back a little bit. They take videos of me. They take pictures of me when they go past. But I'm sitting there and there was this whole big, it was the whole thing was a nightmare. It was a mess. They had booked, they overbooked the flight. They couldn't get people to To buy to do take the money to not go on the flight Yeah, then they couldn't get they someone was saying there was more bad grim But there wasn't more bad grims people were having a gate check at the door Okay, the whole thing was chaos and then there was more chaos because when we landed in New York

There were two guys who because we had been like a little bit delayed They were gonna miss their connecting flight They had like some it was the only flight going out for 36 hours to where they needed to go. And they were about to miss it. So at first the flight attendant was being really cool. She was on the speaker being like, everybody stay in your seats,

we are gonna get these two guys off first. They are going to, we're gonna get their bags from the back because of the bag situation. She was like, they are gonna run to their gate, no one moving in to where trying to help these guys. People are monsters. And I was like, that's right, so she's trying to prevent monster behavior, right?

And I was like, I fuck with her. The fight attendant seems cool, this little white lady. Then she stands up and is talking to some of us in first class and she goes, he's trying to, he's got a fight to somewhere I've never even heard of. And she looks at me and the older white guy next to me and we both went, that's crazy, and went back to our phone. We're like, absolutely not. She was trying to engage

and bitch with us because i knew god damn well that it was going to be something crazy that she was that she it wasn't going to be like a small town in missouri you know what i mean i was like no so we both went back to our phones me and the old guy we looked at each other and we're like no and then and then the the two gentlemen who were trying to make their connecting flight they were black guys clearly clearly African dudes. And I overhear someone ask them where they're going, like, Where you guys trying to get to that doesn't have a flight out for 36 hours? Someone be a nice flight. And they go, Ghana.

Yeah. She hadn't heard of Ghana? Yeah, man. She hadn't heard of Ghana? Man! I almost said, bitch, you haven't heard of Ghana? She didn't watch Animaniacs? I was like...

You couldn't get the Yakko breakdown? I was like, you weren't even gonna involve me in legitimate racism? In Ghana. You were gonna have me in clown racism where you don't know Ghana? That's so funny. I was like, dude, I couldn't believe it. Acting like they was going to Djibouti or something like that. Ghana? Ghana. That's like a well-known- That's top 10 African countries at least. Like most racist people could be like, oh yeah, Ghana and Africa.

Yeah, we got it. Come on. I couldn't believe it. That's baffling. And so it's just been kind of baffling. And what also is happening right now is I'm getting, because you know, there's the MAGA whites, but what's happening right now are the apologetic liberal whites who want to talk to me because they want me to know

that they didn't vote that way. And so they're smiling like, how are you? Where are you going? Where are you headed? And I'm leaving me alone face. I got sunglasses on. I got headphones. I don't want to engage because I know that eventually you're

going to say something I don't like. And then I'm going to cuss you out and now I'm on the no fly list. Which I can't be because of our jobs. I got to fly. We need to fly. We got to go to work. Yeah, that thing with the nice white people is what they really want is for you to be like, they want you to go, hey, you're one of the good ones. Absolutely.

They want me to invite them to the cookout. Right. And it's like if you were, you wouldn't be behaving this way. No! Just relax. Just everyone relax. Yes. Everyone calm down.

And first and foremost, leave Joyelle alone. Leave Joyelle alone. I need to get it tattooed on my forehead. Leave Joyelle alone. Leave Joyelle alone. I'm gonna get one too. Yes, yes. Let's get matching tattoos.

Leave Joyelle alone on our foreheads. Forehead tattoos, you got promise. Damn, that's rough dude, I hate that. Yeah, yeah, so I'm like, I'm better suited in Brooklyn and I was in Asheville, North Carolina last week and I was engaging, you know, I was like, I'm by myself drinking at the bar, as you do on the road, and this guy just started talking to me

and you know, they love me, like, oh, you're a comedian, and he was like, oh, so you must love traveling right now. I was like, actually, I don so you must love traveling right now I was like actually I don't really feel that safe anymore he was like why don't you feel safe and I was like oh myriad reasons just reasons that I have mad reasons and I was like honestly cuz I never know who I'm talking to outside of Brooklyn I never know what type of white person I'm talking to sure enough not less than five minutes later, I don't even know what the prompt was, but the dude was like, yeah, no, there's only two genders.

And I was like, see, we weren't even talking about gender. I don't know. You know what. And I was like, and that's why I can't engage, because I don't know who I'm talking to, and I don't need to know. Yeah, and you hate that, because that's usually something you like to say first.

Right, exactly. That's my opener. That's and you hate that because that's usually something you like to say first. Right, exactly. That's my opener. That's my stuff. Yeah, that's my material. Back off. Come on. Yeah, and when I told him I lived in Brooklyn, I was like, you know, I'm much safer in Brooklyn. He was like, it's safe there?

You feel safe in Brooklyn? I was like, oh, they think it's like New Jack City. Yeah. They think you're going to get robbed every day. They think this about every city. Every city, yeah. Chicago, all of them every day. This is about every city every city. Yes They're talking like this in Kansas City. Mm-hmm. I'm like at Chicago, New York like every single city Yeah, suburban white people are being like goodness. Yeah, what yeah, and and that same dude was like, you know I only been on an airplane once and I don't fly nowhere. I don't do no things, you know, so that's great

You fly all the time like you ain't never been nowhere, but you do know that there's only two genders. Yeah That's the one thing that you know yeah, you don't know nothing. He don't know where Ghana is but But you came to all these conclusions. Yeah, you came to that very Adamic conclusion when no one even prompted you it helps. Yeah, it helps to go see people dude That's I really when I was in high school, I grew up around, you know, I grew up in a town in Missouri that's like all straight white Christian people. That's what it is out there. Super fun. And I just like, I just, everyone, like it was really, cause you know, when I was like a kid, like 9-11 had happened and things, and so a lot of people were doing

like fucking, like really fucked up, like the hatred towards Muslim people. I also don't understand by the way, how so many people in this country have not caught on to like, you just watch and it was like, it's a new group every once in a while. It's Welfare Queens, it's fucking Muslim people, it's gay people, it's trans people, it's Mexican immigrants, now it's these kind of immigrants. It's like every once in a while they just pick a new group,

they rile everybody up, they get pissed off, and every time you go, well this one's different, they've got really legitimate points, and they will move off of this eventually and on to a new group Yeah, and someday it might never be your group I'm not I don't even like that argument it will just always be a new group and doesn't that tell you something But anyway everyone was so like riled up and saying crazy shit about Muslim people and then I and I kind of like believed it Like I didn't know anybody these are adults you? And then I went to like a student conference for a group I was a part of in another state

and I met some Muslim kids and I was like, oh, they're cool as fuck. I was just like, oh, so this is who everyone's mad at? I was like, what? And then you just go meet people and you go, oh, everyone's actually pretty much the same. It's like different in fun ways. People just wanna make enough money to feed ourselves

and not be stressed out. Yeah. That's the human commonality. And the differences are not, like there are differences in people, but the differences are not, there's more in common. There's more common. People want to pay their bills, they want to hang out with their friends, they want to take care of their family.

Absolutely. That's it. Everything else is just fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I say. Like if you don't like gays, you ain't met a fun one. Yeah.

You haven't been around enough gay people. You haven't been around enough gays. Yeah, get out. Yes. Get out and meet some. Get out, get on an airplane. Yeah, get on an airplane. Get on an airplane.

Yeah, dude, I don't know. Yeah. What do you think we're going to do about it? What are we going to do about it, me and you? I'm attempting to leave the country. Yeah, where you going? Yes. Where you going? My cousin just moved to Bangkok. She got a one bedroom apartment in a luxury building for $650 a month.

And she just got a one year lease and was like, she's gonna bop around Asia for the next four years just to do that. So I'm looking into it. I want to become a digital nomad. I wish I had a podcast, but I want to do voice acting. So that's the goal right now. You got the voice for it. I want, yes, I want that. I want Inside Out 3.

I want. Yeah. And then I can do that because I took a voice acting class and one of the ladies in the class moved to Thailand. And she was just like, yeah, she works in a closet in her apartment in Thailand. She comes comes to America when like somebody gets married or whatever yeah, also you should start a podcast Why don't you have one? I don't believe in myself and what I have to say this much. I believe in what you have to say Pick up a microphone

I can't also talk I don't understand how y'all do this I can't also talk. I don't understand how y'all do this What's not always good you're doing a lot of the work today Yeah, just you bring in people you like and then you go. Okay. What do we think? Yeah, and I also just think it like opens me up to more Criticism that I'm just so freaking anxious. Well, it does do that. Yes. It definitely does do that. Yeah, you gotta get systems in place to where you don't read,

because if I was reading, I'd be not with us. You know, you can't read the criticism. Yeah, I was like, I would definitely need a high dose of WellBeautry to do a podcast. Yeah, that part's not fun. Yeah, yeah, so I'm also working, might get some WellBeautry in the next four years. Let's not fun. Yeah, yeah. So I'm also working, might get some well-being in the next four years. Let's do that.

Yeah, I've come back and forth about it. There's part of me that feels like I'm gonna go down with the ship. I'm like, if something goes bad here, I'll just be here for it. And then there's part of me that's like, yeah, of course I have the resources to leave. I think about it. It crosses my mind. But I don't know. And it don't gotta be a crazy leave.

It could be Toronto. Yeah, I have friends who have done that. Literally Toronto, literal I also if I did it be Portugal probably yeah, Portugal Lisbon has a lot of Specifically African American expats are in Lisbon. Yeah, there's a couple of countries Costa Rica Bangkok where a lot of black expats are moving so yeah, that's what I'm trying to Yeah, I'm going to Paris in two weeks. yeah have you been before rock on okay do you yes yeah I'm taking my mom Paris reminds me of Brooklyn a lot yeah I love it yeah I love it so I'm excited to take my mother and just kind of be out of America for like two weeks dude I love Paris I do I feel like Americans either love Paris or hate

yes absolutely there's a lot of places people are like mixed on this is one Place is like love or hate. Yeah I love it. Yeah, and also I'm like as a kid I always looked up to Josephine Baker as you do and I was just obsessed with how her and James Baldwin and all them Just left the racism America and we're just out there, you know, cuz European racism is different. It's like Diet it's like Coke zero it's like Coke Zero. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like frowns in a restaurant.

Yes, exactly. It's not so structural and policy driven. Right. Yeah, it's like I can handle being frowned at. Yeah, yeah, they'll do a Brexit occasionally, but I don't know if they're bringing back the handmaids. So. Okay, interesting.

I love Paris. How long are you gonna be over there? Almost two weeks, yeah. Hell yeah, let's go. And Joseph just being Baker Chateau is a museum So we're gonna go to the south of France and go to her Chateau and there's a falconry exhibit See the Falcon. Oh, I'm so excited. There's a book if you're looking for a recommendation while you're there I'll also send you some my restaurant because I was there and did some new stuff But there's a book, I might butcher the title a little bit,

but it's called I'm Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself. Ooh, I love it. By a New York writer, a woman in her 40s, maybe 50s now. But she wrote about, she was a New York writer and she would go to Paris once a year and then right after COVID or right when vaccines were kind of happening, she moved there for I think a year. And she read, I read most of it while I was in Paris most recently and she just wrote about a

bunch of like like sex and dating that she did with younger men in Paris after COVID because she was like she was like I haven't been touched in years I'm fucking feral and she was just hooking up with these young guys off field and also meeting up with her old friends in Paris and talking about Paris. It's a very fun read when you're in Paris. Oh, I'm going to do it. Start that on the flight, baby. It's fun. I started on the flight and then I sat in some parks and flipped through it. And I was like, I loved it. Yes. I love a little Stella got her groove back. That's fun.

Moment. Has your mom been over there before? No, she's never been. She's never been to Europe. Let's go. Yeah, she's never been, and named me because she loved French. Yeah. And, you know, was obsessed with it, so I'm like, I need to bring you out there.

Well, you know, most people can buy their parents a house. I was like, you got a house, you good. Yeah, you're all set, let's go to Paris. You don't need a house. Yeah. Let's Delta one to Paris. Where is she? Delta. Delta, by the way.

Get on my damn nerves. Where's your mom at? Georgia. Georgia, what part? Stone Mountain. That's Delta one to Paris. Delta. Delta by the way. Get on my damn nerves. Where's your mom at? Georgia. Georgia. What part? Stone Mountain. Where's that? That's like 30 minutes outside of Atlanta.

We were just in Atlanta. Yeah, Atlanta's great. I love Atlanta. We went to, you know Amber Wallen? She's a funny comedian in front of ours. She was there in town. And we went to, what's that place we went to after? JR Crickets. Do you know this place? It don't sound like my people are there. It was like no it was

like uh it was like uh like they had like late night food and beer and stuff okay but it was like it's like uh or like uh it was like on a list of like Atlanta like legendary spots okay and so we were like okay we'll try it out. Yeah I moved down there with my partner during the pandemic. Yeah. Yeah, we were down there for about a year and a half. Y'all was in Atlanta. Yeah. That sounds nice.

I love Southern cities. I do. I know. Yeah. I know. I know, there's always the caveat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do.

It's like the weather's beautiful, the food's great. Yeah. And then. Yeah. Yeah, but Atlanta, I just love how beautiful and black and gay it is. It's just a big ball of yeah. Yeah, but Atlanta, I just love how beautiful and black and gay it is. It's just a big ball of fun. And black Hollywood's down there, so I support it.

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That's the thing, I feel like you're a pretty happy person in spite of it all. In spite of it all, yeah. I'm trying to be like, oh, what's bringing me to, Omakase? Yes, yes, let's talk about it. Oh my God. Omakase is my life.

Omakase is my life. I just went last night to my favorite Omakase place. Are you gonna name it or are you gatekeeping? Oh, Karami, Karami, K-O-R-A-M-I, that's my favorite spot. It's in Hell's Kitchen. I've been there so much, I walk in, it's like cheers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're like,

true, yeah! Yes, they give us little extra cups of sake, they give extra peace. I love Karami and my partner and I have been going to omakases all over the world. We can't have kids because we have Omakase happy. Yeah, absolutely. Like you either choose children or Omakase.

You can't have both. And we're picking Omakase. And we are picking Omakase, because Omakase rarely will talk about you in therapy. But. From time to time. From time to time. From time to time.

It'll talk about your bank account for sure. But yeah, I mean we've spent money on Omakase. Let's go. The spots account for sure. But yeah, I mean, we've spent money on a Macassé. The spots we went to in Montreal, we did one for our anniversary. We went to Toronto and we did one for his birthday. And I mean, I just love it. I feel like a queen when I do it. I love a Macassé.

I love it. Do you have a favorite spot? I do. In Brooklyn, bleep mine, because I'm not trying to get anyone on my spot. It's called... Oh! You been there?

I haven't! Really good. Okay. Really good Park Slope. Alright. Small. I will... I'll make the reservation tonight.

Very delicious. Yeah. There's a bunch of good... And honestly reasonable. I think they're like nine piece dinner omakase is like $75 or something. That's a good price. That's like... I can get behind that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You do that every once a week. And their lunch one's really reasonable too. Yeah, everything, they've got really good udon. The place is cute, the people are nice. Oh, I love that. It's nice to do one. I like doing the lunch on Macase because there's a coffee shop like

two blocks in a corner turn away that I love, a teeny tiny like old coffee shop that does a really good latte. Macase, latte, and then like a 35 minute walk home that's a good afternoon that's a good absolutely yeah get your steps in I like I like a 40 minute walk I do two miles yeah indecent weather I like it I do especially in New York because there's so much to see so many people to people watch yeah talk shit about in my head we roast the people's outfits while you walk down the street. Oh, yeah

Which by the way is my deepest fear? Yeah, my deepest fears and I'm walking by someone as cool as you and you're going With that hoodie he really thought whoa, yes Absolutely. I love it. I absolutely love but I love walking. I love walking. It's the running. No, love. I'm not running. I'm not running. What am I? I'm not running towards or from a single thing. No, absolutely. I'll be walking. Yes. I like a little brisk walk. What's your favorite walk? Favorite walk to do. Yeah. Like what's your favorite Eastern Parkway. I live by Eastern Parkway and that, it's a promenade but I forget the actual name for it. It has a name that I was confused about. But that area, right, walking down Eastern Parkway

is fantastic, my nose is running. Don't roast me in the comments, people. Do not roast Joyelle, I swear to God. I'll take the whole episode down. Treat her right or we're not doing it. I'll turn the car around. Oh, we're all sniffly by the way. We got something, there's something going on.

I'm allergies, it's always allergies. It's because the weather just got nice, you're good. Yes, it's good. It's kicked up, that's what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, dust everywhere. I got my little air purifier that I bring for the subways since they gave the congestion pricing and they don't want me to drive into the city.

Yeah, fucked up. During the day. I can't believe they did that to you. They did it to me. Specifically. It was specifically. They may as well call it the Joyell Bill. Yeah, absolutely.

They was like, that bitch is the one that be driving into Union Square at 4 p.m. She's not doing it. Fucking up the traffic. We'll get her out of here. Yes. We'll get her out of here. Except we gonna charge her $9.

You right, I'll take the train. A little Eastern Parkway walk. I like that. Yeah, walk up, walk past the museum, up to the park, and then come back down on the other side. That's the walk. I just found a rental. I'm always looking at rentals.

My lease is not up until October. Okay, no reason for me to be looking. I am trying to think of ways to get out of my current lease though. I like my spot, but I get bored. And so I'm thinking about that. But I just found a rental that's like directly the amount I'm trying to spend and the kind of setup that I want.

It's a floor through like gorgeous one bedroom with a big living room, really cute. And it is on, it's like Prospect Park on the block of a side street. So it is a three minute walk from Prospect Park. And I am like, I'm cooking up any reason to get out of my place. I thought about having a guy come test the paint for lead.

I'm like, get me. They got to be black molded in somewhere. Get me out of here. Make something up. Falsify a report. Yes. I know you had Liza on, but she had a carbon monoxide situation in her apartment.

And it was like one night where she just spent the night at my house and it was something about the levels in there where it could have killed her. Yeah, Lisa's apartment. Journey. Look, carbon monoxide might be the least of our worries. It should be structurally condemned She loves her neighborhood. Yeah, and it's close to things she does but when when I go into that apartment I go I'm deeply worried and afraid. Yeah

It is old. Yeah, it's old. Mm-hmm and tiny super tiny but she's doing New York. She's doing New York her way Yes, it's a good East Village, right? Oh, she loves it over there Yeah, she one thing aboutiza, if she tells me she hasn't been to a Taylor Swift Soul Cycle in a while, I'm like, let's get you in one. Let's go. Because that does something for her that I can barely understand.

Yeah. She's locked in on that. Yeah, but I also think, well, Blutron or something like that is happening. Yeah. And that as well. Yes. And that as well, by the way.

And she's like the walking advertisement for me with it. She raves and raves about it. So I'm like, girl, let's do it. I feel like you give good advice. You want to do a voicemail? Absolutely. Let's do a voicemail. Let's get these on.

Ooh. And see if we got something good today. Wait, what is, I never can read. Ah, found it. OK. Do do do do. I love advice. We're going to see.

We're going to see if they got something good for us. I Caleb and Gus and chance I Want to know the truth about dreams? I had a dream that Caleb and I met in real life and we just had like the best time and it made me wonder If you think our dreams mean anything like are they telling us something? Are they just a reflection of how we're feeling what we're consuming? Little love to hear everyone sucks. Okay. Love you. Bye What do you think about dreams I'm not a dreamy analyst person but are you I am not

But I always have the dream where I'm like Trying to catch a flight. Mm flight, trying to get to a show, trying to pack a bag, and I just can't get it together, I can't get there. Ah, ah, ah, so anxiety, sure, is what that means. You are not going to be friends with Caleb, that's not. You might have a baby, I don't know, that definitely means something else. Something is meant in there.

Something is meant. But yeah, yeah, maybe that means she's going to get some really good ice cream. You might have a gay son. You might have a gay son. In the future. You might want to go get some gumbo, go find a gumbo truck. Find a gumbo truck. Yes.

Go to Chicago, find the gumbo truck. Absolutely. Yeah, but I don't think, I think if whatever is actually happening, it doesn't mean that. Yeah. In the dream. That is so, I often have similar dreams to yours, where like, I had a dream the other night where it was so, everything about my life was the exact same, I had woken up, in the dream, I had woken up the next morning in the hotel that I was staying in. It looked exactly like the hotel. Everything about me and the situation is the same.

Except for I have two garment bags. And only one has my real clothes and one has much smaller clothes I can't fit into and I couldn't open them to figure out which one was which so I had to just pick one to take To the airport. Yeah, and I'm standing in front of them panicking about which one to take while chance in Virginia are texting Like we're ready to go and that was the dream. Like the dream will just be for me It'll always just be one thing is off. Yeah, and if I pick the one with the small clothes, my day is ruined, you know what I mean? For sure, for sure. That, shit like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a lot of anxiety dreams, and I'm sure it's indicative of everything that's happening in the world and everything. It's just like, I just wanna sleep. Yeah. All I wanna do is sleep. I know, I know, dude.

I'm not a good sleeper. Are you not? No. What's your sleep situation like? Toss and turn, and I'm all w good sleeper. Are you not? No. What's your sleep situation like? Toss and turn and I'm all wiggled up. I wonder what I was like in the womb. Like I think I was like twisted a weird way because I'm in the bed in a position that you're like,

it wasn't the yoga. It's happening and then I've like tried everything. I try to weight a blanket and then I'll be twisted under the weighted blanket and then the weighted blanket is holding me in a weird twist And I wake up, and it's like does my shit hurt like You know Some yeah, I'm just not a good sleeper. Are you hard to fall asleep hard to stay asleep both both all of it Damn of it. Yeah, have you thought about getting on anything or no? You're just gonna write it out

I Take melatonin sometimes they I think they have like more serious stuff Yeah, but I don't want to get hooked on something then have to be like pro-po-falling like Michael Jackson Eventually in a couple years. Yeah, I'm gonna need an anesthesiologist eventually Yeah, we can't have that we can't so that's why't. So that's why I'm like, well, I keep saying well, be sure. Melatonin is like a good Benadryl sometimes, that Benadryl.

But yeah, it's hard. And especially if I have to do something the next day that's stressing me out. Yeah. I mean, one time I had a big gig the next day. I took melatonin, Benadadryl and a NyQuil I didn't get an ounce of sleep. No, yeah, see that's the worst I've done that on flights a couple times

It's like a flight where I really had to sleep you take the stuff and then you can't fall asleep that fucks your body up Absolutely, then you feel bad. Yes. You're like I stayed awake through something that was supposed to kill like a small animal Now I feel sick in a way I didn't know I could feel I didn't know So the next. But I didn't know. So the next day I'm like, I had enough coffee in the world. Yeah, I've been through that. Yeah, it's like me to cocaine bump the next day

to get through it. That shit is stressful. So yeah, I'm always, and to fall asleep, it's really hard. Because like the second I lay down, it's like, oh, did you say something wrong on Caleb's podcast today? Does Caleb really hate you? Is tofu gonna drop you like oh, yeah all the intrusive thoughts I can set at least three-fourths of those to ease right now. I'll tell you you said nothing wrong and I only love you Okay, I could actually probably call Tova to and get that one clear

You like the total thing? I don't know. I don't know yet. I have to talk to her, but I doubt it. Yes. Yes Yes, yes based on some of the people she keeps just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Love you. I love everything Love everything guys. Love all of y'all Yeah, I'm sleeping for me is hit or miss luckily I've kind of set my life up in a way where I can adjust on the next morning if I have to yeah I don't I really it's not often that I have something before 10 a.m. I don't. Thank God. Well they tried to ask me to be here yesterday for 10 a.m. and I was like. And I didn't want to do it either. Yeah I was like I can't. I will not be personable. Yeah I will not be on at 10 a.m. No I can't be on before noon for sure.

It's like unless you I have to be making money before noon. Y'all got four or five thousand bucks? That's the only way. Yeah That's the thing about tours when you got to do those late nights early flights Mmm, the combo of like do I even sleep? Yeah stay up and go to the thing, right? Yeah, and I can't do that anymore now in my 40s. Oh my goodness. I used to be able to do that in my 20s I used to be able to drive I'll be able to drive from Atlanta to New York by myself one shot. Shut up. One bathroom break. You really could? Oh, yeah, I couldn't ever do that. I drove across country three times

And at now three hours tops. Yeah, that's the most I want to drive anymore I'm not doing anymore if it's four hours if the place is four hours away That's so annoying cuz I'm like, oh drive it but I definitely don't want to yeah I can do like seven yeah seven's what I can get yeah I could probably do longer but I just don't try cuz I'm like at that point I'm it's more hurt than help exactly exactly yeah you don't want to fall asleep but anything anything if a flight if a if a drive is less than six hours I'm pretty much doing it yeah by the time you especially if it's somewhere like LA,

Kansas City or something is different because getting to and through the airport is 10 minutes max. But LA or New York, it's like, dude, it's gonna take me an hour to get out there. It doesn't take me 45 minutes to get situated in the lounge. Then I'm gonna wait for the flight. Then I'm gonna take the flight. Then I'm gonna get,

it's like the whole thing is longer than just driving. Absolutely, and the Uber's $100. The price too, yeah. It's like, I could drive for just the price of gas would be the price of the Uber is $100. The price too, yeah it's like I could drive for just the price of gas, be the price of the Uber. Yeah. That's no flight. So Pennsylvania, Maryland, DC, Northern Virginia, driving. I'm driving those. Boston, I'm driving. You mentioned things that have changed in your 40s. What do you think the 30s are about? What's the 30 supposed to be about? What am I supposed to be? I just turned 30.

Congratulations. Thank you. What am I supposed to to be about? What am I supposed to be? I just turned 30. Congratulations. Thank you. What am I supposed to be thinking about? What are you supposed to be thinking about? I trust you. No is a full sentence. That's a big one. That's been so beautiful to know now. Like to be able to say no to things, especially from the desperation that you have when you first start comedy.

Yeah. It's like, I'll do it. Please just tell me anything. I'll do it. Give me $2 and I'll drive 15 hours to your gig. Yeah. And now I'd be like, $1,000. I'm not getting on a plane for that. I'm not taking a connection. Yeah. I'm not getting a connecting flight. If it was direct, maybe. It was direct, but there's no direct flight there. I'm not going a connected if it was direct maybe it was direct, but there's no there's no direct flight there I'm not going you know so Protecting my peace in that way. Yeah, no is great And I think I figured that out in in my 30s, and now I'm just you know Gone to hoe about it. I don't like 40s. I mean 40s are great

I love it people like complaining about aging all the time like women. Y'all ain't tell us that it gets better. Yeah, it gets better. I also don't have kids out that might help. That might help. That might help. Yeah, it's better though. What is what is what are you feeling in your 40s? It's gotten better. Because I believe you and I've heard this but I wonder what I have less fucks. Yeah, to give about things like like literally last night this happened where I was at a bar after we did Omokase. We went to the bar and there was this white guy talking to me and my biggest trigger right now

is when somebody says they were both the same. The lesser two evils. That argument pisses me off to no end. And I've gotten into arguments with one man about it because I'm like, that's a misogynist talking point. They were not both the same and they weren't even close. So I will now just be like, oh, leave me alone. Yeah, shut up.

Stop talking to me. Go away. Go away and people don't like that. People do not like that. And then I get into another thing where I'm just like, I just want you to leave me alone right now. And the dude last night was like a close talker. It was such a crazy situation.

And then he ended up getting kicked out of the bar and then his wife stayed and was like- Queen, she said, that's not my situation. But she started crying. Oh, leave. It was so crazy. And I was like this bitch. So yeah, last night was crazy, but less

Less fucks to give in that respect. Like I'm not gonna sit here. You know how you wanted to please people Yeah I was like trying to be a people pleaser in my 20s and stuff like that and that slowly each year has dwindled and now I do not give a fuck like I friends like I got into an argument with somebody I thought was a friend for New Year's and I was like, oh, you can leave now. Like I don't, leave my life. Dismissed.

Goodbye. Dismissed. Goodbye, do you know how many people I know? Yeah. I'm like, I don't even have time to hang out with Caleb. I gotta book a podcast to fucking hang out with Caleb. There's so many people I wanna hang out with. So I'm like, if you wanna escort yourself out my life,

do me that favor. roster is full come on The calendar is booked. Yeah, I think I got I think right at the end of my 20s. I figured out no I got really good at no, I'm pretty good at no I start with no Yeah, I really I really do everyone in this room is smiling because they have been on the receiving end Or have been privy to many know I know have been on the receiving end or have been privy to many no I'm like no no I'm good opposite of improv yeah and start with no and see what we find no end yeah no but no but no but if there's more or no but if there's less money yeah more money less work yes or less evil more cool yeah exactly yeah yeah I love no I love no no it was. I was saying no when I had nothing I

Got comfortable with no before I had anything impressive. I just it was I don't I think I don't know if it's I maybe it's laziness It doesn't feel like laziness now. Maybe there are times when it was but no I'm just like yeah I'm not life is is I don't know if life is short or long, but life is certainly like Precious and I'm not gonna spend it hanging out with people or doing hang out people that make me feel bad or doing things that Make me feel gross. I also think and concur with this with me. I think it's also more of a woman thing Women are more prone to just be like, okay. I'm sorry. You don't wanna Know yeah No Totally. Yeah, that makes total sense to me. Yeah. I think so. I'm like trying to figure out what my big lesson in my 30s is gonna be and I don't

know what it'll be yet but I'm taking notes. Yeah. I'm hearing from people that I like that have done it. I want to know. Oh, Caleb likes me. Sorry for the collar. Sorry y'all. Well you know what's funny and this is no shade to the collar. No, no, no, no, no. Have a great day. Hey, we love you. But it is funny the number of people that like DM me that, you know, I'll see him sometimes when I'm looking for something else and I'll see people being like, oh my God, you're in my city. Like we should totally go to lunch. I think we'd be friends. I'm like, yeah, that's just like never going to happen. Like I'm never for mostly honestly,

more for you than for me. I might really like you, you're not gonna get what you want out of that. I'm never gonna be the little guy on your screen that you want me to be. Right, cause they have an idea. Yeah, what you think of me, and by the way, you might have a lot of right ideas about me.

I'm just never, it's never gonna live up to, as someone who I have met people that I liked from my screen and stuff and even if they're lovely it's never what you want it to be and also when they're not lovely well that's it that's it that don't meet your heroes of it all yeah crazy yeah meeting people that you admire can be such a can be such a dicey thing and that's the thing that's the I think the reason it's never meet your heroes and the reason that we really should try and stick to that is

not even because they'll always be awful But because even when they're wonderful it won't be what you needed to be right it just just just you know Not that I think any of these people think I'm a hero. I'm not saying that I'm just saying like I don't think you'd like Lunch with me as much as you think It's not gonna feel like the edited podcast you know what I mean lunch with me is gonna be a lot more like God I have a meeting in two hours that I would just rather fucking take a bullet than go on. You know what I mean? That's not quite as fun as the edited podcast.

Yes, exactly. Can you relate? Yeah, it's not gonna give what you want it to give. Yes, oh, I love that thought. Yeah, what's so true to you, Joyal? What's so true to me? What's an example? What do people usually say?

Oh gosh, what have been some good ones? It's usually just like a hill you die on, something you really believe in. What's so true to me? Leave me alone if you see me in the street. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so true to me. Yeah.

Omokase is very true to me. Omokase is so true to you. Caleb's a great person, that's true to me. Oh, let's run with that one. Let's run with that one. What do you mean, leave me alone when you see me in the streets, though? Are people bothering you out there?

Yeah. A lot of people want to talk to me. Want to say, Joyelle, Joyelle. Well, because I'm not going to go in front. I look cool, obviously. Yeah. And I stick out, like, when I go places. If I'm in Missouri, if I'm in North Carolina,

I look like an elephant walking down the street. Well you have a very commanding presence. Yeah, and I'm tall and I'm colorful, so that makes people just always be like, oh, what are you doing in town? And it's like, nah bro, I don't want it, I can't want it anymore. Skip me please. If you're next to me at first class, leave me alone Get out of here. I don't want it. I can't want it anymore. Yeah. Skip me, please. If you're next to me at first class, leave me alone.

Leave me alone. If I have my headphones on, leave me alone. The tap on the shoulder and the take off the headphones. Never a reason. What are you talking about? I should be on fire. Yeah. If I have my headphones on and you're tapping my shoulder,

I better be on fire. Yes, absolutely. And even then, leave me alone and just pee on me like do not tap ever tap me to do this Water on me. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah. Yeah, I did the tap. Don't touch me for sure. Don't touch And for sure don't touch me. I don't want to be touched. I don't want to be touched We have a segment for you, too. Oh, I'm so excited. We do a So True, True False segment on this show. Basically, I'm going to read you 15 statements in a row. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can if you think each one is true or false.

And if you get 10 or more correct, we're going to give you 50 US dollars. 50 US dollars? USD. Oh my god. USD. Are you ready? Yes. Earth is the only known planet where fire occurs. False. True. Tennis is the official- Mercury?

Ain't Mercury a ball of fire? Chance, you better write these questions different. Joyle's mad. Tennis is the official sport of Maryland. True. False. Chow Sting. What? Freaks. No Broadway musical has closed after just one performance. False. False. 22 of them have. Oh wow. Union High School and Union Township, New Jersey's official colors are maroon and white. Yes baby. True. I like that one. Let's go. It is impossible to sneeze while I've been woken up sneezing so false. It says true.

I don't know. I don't know. With your sleeping habits, who knows if you were asleep. Because what are we talking about? We're rep-cycling? What are we talking about? I've woken up sneezing. We're going to count that one as correct, just in case.

I'm not going to cheat you on this. Polar bears can smell a seal from up to 20 miles away. True. True. The first iPhone did not have a camera False DFW Airport in Texas is larger than Manhattan False true Boston College's motto is excellence above all It's ever to excel oh it, it is ever to excel. It is, it is. I didn't graduate 20 years ago, so.

Jellyfish don't have brains. False. True. I'm terrible at this. A duck can't walk without bobbing its head. False. True. Cookie Chris cereal.

That's why it's that chick chicken hat. Cookie Chris cereal is older than Tyrese Gibson. True. True. Humans share 95% of our DNA with bananas. True. False. It's 50%, which is also nuts. A group of porcupines is called a party. All true. I want that to be true. It's kind of cute though. So it's a prickle. Is it an embarrassment? It's a prickle. A prickle. An embarrassment of porcupines. Oh my gosh. Honestly, an embarrassment of porcupines is pretty cute. Yes.

One more, there's sugar in Diet Coke. True. False. How'd she do? Damn, I failed. Oh, Joya, I'm so sorry. I have failed, did I? These ones were hard.

Chance came for you on these ones. We got so rude. He came for you bad. I liked the little Union Highs and Boston College one. That was cute. Yeah, isn't that cute? We did those just for you. Maroon for you bad. I liked I liked the little Union highs and Boston College one that was cute. Yeah, not cute. We did those just for you maroon for both schools Did you do that on purpose? Maroon and gold? No, I didn't I just got into Boston College and didn't feel like trying cuz I got waitlisted to other schools You said hey, I don't want to try

Boston College sounds good to me. Yes. Did you Did you like living in Boston? Sure, but once again, Boston is a hard city for black people. It's great for college students, but when I was in school, they had to give all of the black students four years housing, because you're typically supposed to move off campus junior year, but Boston was so racist, they wouldn't give apartments to black students. So all the black kids were on campus junior year and yeah, so it's a tough city. I've heard this about Boston. I've heard this about Boston. Yes, we call it Up South.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard this. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, Boston and they're honestly the first time that I learned that two places were racist that surprised me were Boston and Italy. I've heard some tough reviews about Italy from black friends. I have too. And I want to go.

I want to go with Matteo. I'd love to go to Italy with Matteo. Everyone wants to go to Italy with Matteo. Everyone's like, I'd like to go to Italy with Matteo. I'm like, yeah, honestly, we need to make him play in like a trip for comedians. He needs to do a comedian like Mecca. Just a bus tour. Yeah.

We need to all just commit to a time frame and be like, Matteo, you're taking us to Italy. You're taking us to Italy. Yeah. He needs to do a comedian like Mecca. Just a bus tour. Yeah, we need to all just commit to a time frame and be like, Matteo, you're taking us to Italy. You're taking us to Italy. Oh my gosh. I'm seeing him this weekend. He's doing, this won't be out yet. Oh, this will be out after. He's doing my Charlotte show. Oh, I love that. Yeah, he has a show there the next night. So I texted him. I was like, would you do my show? And he was like, yeah.

Oh, cute vibe. So I'm excited to see him. It's been a minute. Yes. I haven't seen him. He's getting all kinds of fun tattoos right now. Oh, I'm sure his thighs are going to be out. He better have them out. We're not having him on the show for nothing. Sure, his arms. Matteo, get those arms out.

Yes, get those arms and thighs out, bitch. I love him. He is so sweet. I do love him. He's one of our friends that's so talented it's annoying. Yeah. I'd like to bring him down a notch. Oh my gosh. I go, Matteo, stop being so funny. I'm like, opera singing and you can paint and draw, like fuck off. And cook and funny and gorgeous.

It's like, dude, relax. Yes, calm down. Have you tried taking a nap? Yes, absolutely. I love that guy. Joy, is there anything you want to tell the people where they can find you, what you're up to? Yeah, my album is Yell Joy.

It is on all of the streaming sites. You can buy it on Blonde Medicine. And my special Lovejoy is on Peacock. So those are my things. I love it. Thank you for being on. You're my babies. Yes.

You're the best. Oh, you're the best. We love you here. I love it. That was a hate gum podcast.