So True with Caleb Hearon - Leo Gonzalez is Fed Up
Episode Date: April 11, 2024Welcome back! We’re so glad you’re here! This week’s guest is the hilarious Leo Gonzalez! Caleb and Leo talk about their mutual obsession with Bad Bunny, Trauma, career aspirations, and... much much more! See Caleb Live on Tour! https://calebhearon.komi.io/ Join our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/SoTruePodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Follow Leo! @leogonzall Follow the Show! @sooootruepodFollow Caleb! @calebsaysthings See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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No, I wanted to talk pretty much right away about your love of Trump.
You go in really hard for...
My thing is, um...
That will always be my president.
Yeah.
And if you feel different, then you can fuck off.
Yeah.
My thing is pretty simple, and it's that he's my president.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
My pronouns are fed and up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My pronouns are fed and up.
Yeah, me and my other patriots have just about had it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You either get that or you don't, honey.
Yeah.
I like the idea of being a conservative guy who's also a little sassy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, those are my favorite ones.
We're sealing up the border, sweetheart.
Just crazy.
Crazy energy.
You and I have, we have personal beef.
Yes.
That you may or may not be aware of.
Yeah, well, you go first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You say yours after I say mine.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm such a huge fan of yours,
and I kind of reached out vulnerably
and begged you to be in a music video
that I was directing.
And you messaged back, and I did, I will say, I I thought this was It obviously hurt my feelings. I thought it was brave you messaged back and said dream on
With you
And I thought that is a man who knows what he wants and I wanted to work with you even more. Yeah
Yeah, you're like somehow I needed to join the podcast
I'm like, somehow I need to join the podcast.
I'm like, okay, podcast?
I don't know.
Can we?
No, you know what?
And I wanted to do it so bad, like so bad.
But you weren't living in L.A. yet, right?
Oh, yeah.
Well, I'm back in, everyone is confused about this now.
I know, it's annoying.
No, people are like, you're annoying.
Yeah.
You guys are the ones that are like in your body, I was like, L.A., Mississippi.
I was like, L.A., F i think you get i think you get maybe three but what's
always driven me crazy is people who do like six of those they'll be like chicago by way of new
york spending time to la uh kissing me yeah kissing me in the summer it's like stop la
transplant yeah by way of like shut up By way of? Like, shut up.
By way of, you just took a plane here,
and then now you live here.
Shut up.
No, thank you so much for doing this.
I'm such a huge fan of yours.
No, no.
Shut up.
Stop.
Stop it.
No, because I was telling,
I think maybe Robert or someone else.
I don't know, but I was telling them,
I was watching you on Twitter a long, long time ago.
Yeah.
And so when you hit me up, I was like, oh, my gosh.
You know when you're like, oh, they know I exist?
Stop.
Not our meet queue.
I was like, what, me?
Yeah, so I'm glad that I somehow was discovered by you.
Well, I think you're so fucking funny, dude.
And I think also everybody who knows me knows I have largely disdain for the internet and content creation.
That's my feeling on it.
And obviously I'm part of it.
But there are a select group of people doing stuff on the internet.
And I think you're so, so much more than that.
But I found your stuff and I went, this is a guy who can actually write, can actually act, can actually, like, you're like a full,
like, well-rounded artist.
Thank you.
And I've just, I've been so impressed and such a fan of your stuff.
No, thank you.
And I haven't seen much of you,
but I thank you for, like, you fell off,
it seems like, after a while.
I was like, you were on stage for a little bit.
Can't book those stages.
Going through something.
Right, right.
But luckily, it made room for me.
Yeah, well that's another thing we need to talk about.
You're kind of stepping in on my territory a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, you're kind of creeping up on some of my comedy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They tried to talk me out of this.
My people.
They were like, we don't like the guy.
Yeah, he's weird.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's mean. That's what I heard a lot guy. Yeah, he's weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's mean.
That's what I heard a lot about.
Yeah, about me around town.
About, yeah, and outside of town.
Oh, fuck.
Words traveling?
Yeah, yeah.
That's not good for me.
I was in Chicago, and they were like, fuck that guy.
That's a horrible place to hear that, because I lived there for a couple years, and I would
think I would have some goodwill in the city, but you're telling me no.
How old are you?
I am 17, and so I'm so excited to be finishing
high school soon I just turned 29 really yeah oh my gosh why how old are you I'm
29 that's what I'm saying twins twins wait when's your birthday January 24th
nice yeah nice you're like oh really cool anyway are you gonna fucking January 24th. Nice. I don't know. Yeah. I'm like, nice.
You're like, oh, really cool.
Anyway, are you going to fucking interview me or what?
Yeah, I'm like, ask me mine.
What is your birthday?
It's just October 13th.
Do you do just, it's just that silly old birthday.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Once a year.
Do you do, do you believe in astrology and stuff?
Do you go in for that?
Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Okay.
What is your sign?
What does it mean to you?
Well, okay. Okay. So the truth comes out that? Yeah, I think so, yeah. Okay, what is your sign? What does it mean to you? Well, okay.
Okay, so the truth comes out. I know,
I'm like, well, no, I'm a Libra, I'm a Virgo
rising. Thank you. And I believe
my moon
is an Aquarius. Okay.
Yeah, I had like a little
rundown. Someone sent me a book of like me.
Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, like a company.
They do that. They do a book of like me oh really yeah yeah like a company they do that they do a book on like a your birth chart yeah and uh they sent me and it tells me like everything
about myself whoa they make it down to the trauma they were like i was like what the fuck
they're like third grade was tough for you
oh that okay that brings me to a good point which is actually okay
now were you like a husky kid yeah thank you for
your service yeah yeah 12 husky in size come on now were when you when you went swimming were you
shirt off shirt on it was my boy absolutely yes when do you what about now do you go shirt off
or on no why would that change i only got fatter nothing went like it improved the shirt's still on babe it's on there's it's actually crew neck
on now you swim you swim like a balaclava you just completely that's so funny uh i was a shirt
on kid as well yeah and it was tough because it only it's tough because it draws more attention
that's exactly right is i would put the shirt on and people would be like honey yeah we know what's
going on yeah yeah back. Yeah.
It's only like suctioning to your like feminine curves.
It's not really like the shirt's just suctioning to your tits. Coming out of the water, everything's like tight and like everything has a crease.
Yeah.
The neck's like drooping down so far that your tits about popping out of it.
It's like you're just accentuating.
You're giving like a modest girl's touch on sexuality.
Oh my gosh. It's tough you're just accentuating. You're giving like a modest girl's touch on sexuality. Oh, my gosh.
It's tough out there.
I did go shirtless one time at a water park in Fresno, and it was – what are you laughing at?
I'm just – the specificity.
I feel like something very specific is about to happen.
You know what, Caleb?
If I was wrong in thinking that this was a safe place –
Oh, you were.
This is a very dangerous space holly weird holly weird i knew when i got the ad just like hollywood okay i'll make my way i'll make my way what happened at the water park in fresno because
i'm not over that you know what i just i took my shirt off and a lot of people were looking
um or maybe they weren't i don't know You know what? I just, I took my shirt off and a lot of people were looking.
Or maybe they weren't.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I just don't.
I just, that was the one time I did it.
And I just feel like I felt very brave that day.
And I never did it again since then.
Yeah, that's it.
I just, that was the only time that is the interesting
thing though about like taking a big uh taking a big risk like that is it so in your head when
you're doing it whatever it is like creatively or anything or even like when you're a kid and
you do the shirt off thing is that even if people aren't looking at you or thinking anything of it
you're kind of in your head like i've built this up so much it's like everyone's paying attention
right yeah oh yeah which i always feel anyways because I'm just so full of myself.
Yeah.
I'm like, who's not looking at me?
And no, but I remember even when I went down the slide, I was like, oh my gosh, they're
going to watch me be so vulnerable when I crash land.
You know when I get down there and it's like, what a splash.
Yeah.
Oh, they're like measuring your splash.
They've got like a tape measure.
They're like, oh.
Damn.
Jesus.
Big one. Yeah. Have we like, oh, damn. Jesus. Big one.
Yeah.
Have we had that before?
Damn.
Okay.
How do we get the water back in?
What are the kids going to swim in?
Guess this is a skate park now.
Oh, my gosh.
I never went back.
To Fresno?
To the water park.
No, I grew up in Fresno.
Oh, so you hung out around there for a while. Yeah. Yeah. You were in Fresno. Have you been to Fresno? I the water park. No, I grew up in Fresno. Oh, so you hung out around there for a while.
Yeah, yeah.
You were in Fresno.
Have you been to Fresno?
I've never had the joy.
I've never had the privilege.
Okay.
I always bring up Fresno.
Like, everything I do, I always find my way to bring in Fresno.
You love where you're from.
What's going on with you?
What have you been up to?
Not much.
I've just been trying to work a little bit.
I know you know what that's like.
Oh, my God, work.
What are you working on?
My mental health.
Yeah.
No, that's actually in the back seat.
No, I'm just trying to get more brand deals.
Yeah.
That's it.
I just want money.
I do a mantra for every year like i don't i
don't really set like uh resolutions i just do like a thing i'm focusing on for the year
and this year i was like uh have fun make money that's it yeah yeah just want
have fun make money no yeah no but i i'm trying to i'm trying to act more i just did my first like
little scene in a movie like two weeks, and so I'm trying to act.
Did you like it?
It was so crazy.
Yeah.
It was so crazy.
For me, it was so new, and it was with Can't Say,
Wait Till It Comes Out.
But it rhymes with Chardon Borsaisi.
But I can't talk.
I can't talk about it.
I can't talk about it.
Don't ask.
Don't ask me because I can't tell. Just can't talk about it. I can't talk about it. Don't ask. Don't ask me because I can't tell.
Just in D.A. City.
No, but, yeah, I felt so, like, dumb because I was, like, I never went to acting school.
Like, you know, I never took theater or anything.
Same.
It was new.
Yeah.
I understand that feeling completely.
When I first, I kind of, like like fell into acting on accident because i was
just doing comedy in chicago yeah and um this i like was doing like live shows and this agent was
like this like local agent in chicago was like would you want to try to be on tv like send some
auditions in and i was like yeah and i these casting directors in chicago like put me in
i had done one small thing on a friend's, like a friend's TV show on showtime.
Another comedian who had a show,
uh,
Abby McEnany had a show called work in progress,
but then I was,
they,
the,
like the next thing I got was a guest role on Fargo and I didn't,
all my friends like studied acting and I didn't go to acting school or
anything.
So I was just like panicking.
Cause I was like,
Oh,
you have to study this.
You have to train at this.
And you,
you can,
but you kind of don't have to like you
don't i i i think now that i've done it more i'm like oh really the only thing you need to do is
just do it you know that's yeah okay thank you for voicing that because i i feel because sometimes
i feel like i cut in line sometimes on certain things that i do and it feels so like oh i guess
i guess he didn't have to do that for 12 years.
You're like, ooh, not an MFA from Juilliard, bitch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
How long did it take you to get in?
Ooh, yikes.
So you struggled then?
They just gave me the billboard.
Oh, yeah, I just got up there.
I don't know.
I don't know what to tell you.
So it was your first acting thing.
What did you?
So I did a Hulu show last year. That was my first acting thing, but did you... So I did a Hulu show last year.
That was like my first acting thing,
but it was like...
I don't know.
This one was so much more pressure
because the other one was like a Hispanic show,
so I was like, I got it.
Was it This Fool?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I love that show.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Did you see mine or no?
I don't know if I saw you in it.
So you didn't.
Because I was big in it.
I was big in it.
I was half the episode.
I watched a couple episodes of that show because I love Chris Estrada, but I must not have gotten to yours.
So funny.
Yeah, I guess you didn't.
Season two, episode seven, I want to say.
Your episode.
Oh, I haven't gotten to season two.
That's probably why.
Oh, okay.
So you didn't vanish.
Yeah, so you kind of like it, but you didn't tune in for season two.
I'm not racist, so I watch Hispanic shows.
I hear you.
I hear you.
Me trying to save face? No, I literally
love Hispanic people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I've seen their work.
Tamale's a big fan.
Yeah, oh my god, you guys, the whole sombreros
I'm into, but not like, I wouldn't
wear one.
Do you know Chris Estrada? I don't know him
personally, I'm just a fan of his.
He is good buddies with my friend Steve Hernandez,
who's a very funny L.A. comic,
like a total fixture in the L.A. comedy scene.
He will love or hate that I'm saying that about him.
But he turned me on to Chris' stuff,
and I've been a fan ever since.
Oh, yeah.
No, Chris was such a safe...
Because Chris is such a nice, chill guy
with zero ego, like everything.
So when I showed up, I felt so comfortable.
And he just, like, nothing was taken seriously from him there.
And so it was, like, the perfect, like, first thing to do.
Because I just showed up.
And then it was cool because, like, his family all works on the show too.
Like from costumes to like product,
like PA stuff.
And I was like,
Oh,
this is great.
You know?
So that,
I felt so comfortable.
And then,
so when I got this movie thing,
I was like,
Oh,
this is so,
I got it.
And then I get there and then it's like this,
like,
and I'm like,
Oh my gosh, like I grew up watching you. Like I, I can't do I got it. And then I get there, and then it's like this, like, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, like, I grew up watching you.
Like, I can't do this.
Yeah, you can't say who you grew up watching, but his name.
I can't say it.
Mad Fit.
Yeah, yeah.
No, but, so hopefully I can act more.
Yeah.
I want to take acting classes, though.
Oh, sweet.
Or do you, have you, like, looked at,
is there, like, one you're going to sign up for, you think, in L.A.?
I don't know.
I think I'm just saying that just to make myself, like, feel better.
But, like, when you got it, you got it.
Like, when you got it, you got it.
I was just saying that to relate to people who have to do stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I actually feel like I have the whole skill set.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's just, like, when you're good, you're good.
I don't know. That's kind don't know. Yeah, I don't know. It's just like when you're good, you're good. I don't know.
That's kind of my thing.
You get qualified.
Did the, like, so obviously you'll do comedic roles
because you're a genius comedian and so funny.
Do you have any desire to do, like, more serious stuff?
That's what I want to do more.
Yeah.
Do you do that?
Do you want to do serious?
Oh, I want to do it all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think also a lot of funny people really have a desire to be taken, not taken seriously.
No, no.
I think taken seriously.
Yeah.
Like, did you watch, um, did you watch, uh, the, the show on Apple?
Uh, uh, what was it?
The shrink next door.
Hmm.
You guys watch that?
I think I maybe saw one episode.
No, you didn't.
No, it's the guy in the basement, right?
No. And he has a client. No, it's the guy in the basement, right? No.
And he works at a clown college.
For a second, I was like, was there a guy in the basement?
No, who was in that?
No, that's Will Ferrell.
Will Ferrell and Paul Rudd.
Okay.
And Will Ferrell does a crazy job at making us feel for him.
It was a drama, and it was so good.
And Catherine Han.
Love Catherine Han.
My gosh.
Catherine Han can fuck me up.
Yeah, she was put on this earth to be on our screens.
She's just such a talent. When she's on your screens, Catherine Han is one be on our screens yeah she's just like such a talent and you
want to when she's on your screens katherine haunt is one of those those rare people that you're just
like i'd watch her read a phone book for three hours she's just that good i yeah no she oh and
that character in particular oh and then oh and then she did that other one um what is it called
like beautiful little things or tiny beautiful things or something oh yeah there were like six
shows called things like that in a row.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that one,
the best.
There was like a run of two years.
There were every show was like five women and it was called like teeny
tiny heartbreak.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was like the little lies we must abide.
Bing,
bing,
bing in a row.
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So what's the dream?
What's like, do you,
is it like you want to have your own sitcom?
Is it features?
Like what is like the Leo?
I want to, you know, i look at different people i think i
look at someone like amy poehler and and think like i want to do that like i want to star in
things i want to produce things um you know her and her production company uh still waiting on a
call back game and uh amy pick up the phone yeah i'm talking you up big on the pod, so just pick up the phone is all.
Please.
I'm hungry.
And someone like Will Ferrell, too, obviously,
who has his production company
and has his name on other stuff.
I want to do that, but I want to star in stuff.
I want to do funny stuff, but I want to do drama.
I just want to heal.
Yeah.
Do you have trauma?
Yeah.
Which kinds? Are you interested yeah uh fuck yeah so there's
growing up fat there's growing up christian there's growing up closeted um i think i could
probably keep going tell me when to stop yeah say when oh do i have trauma um
yeah but i'm stronger than everybody.
And so I have handled my trauma with a grace that most people can't fathom.
Yeah.
I've heard that about you.
Thank you for saying that.
Drew let me in on that, actually, about you.
No branding, okay?
Let's get that out of here.
No branding.
Yeah, I have trauma.
What is your trauma?
And be specific. No branding. Yeah, I have trauma. What is your trauma? And be specific.
Very specific.
No, I was just wondering.
Oh, just about me?
Yeah.
Okay.
I like opened up to you.
Yeah.
Well, for mine,
you're going to have
to wait for it.
That's another one you got to wait for.
Yeah, you'll have to peel me back a little bit more.
Take me to dinner, honey.
It'll come out on HBO Max, maybe Hulu.
We'll see whoever picks it up.
Yeah, whoever wants to pay can hear about my drama.
Yeah, not for free.
Well, maybe we can hear some other people's trauma.
We've got some voicemails.
Can we play one of those, John?
Hi, Caleb and co-hosts or guests.
It's Liv from Brooklyn.
I'm so happy you decided to drop a pod.
Also, finally, I wanted to leave this voicemail
and take it to a place of deal breakers.
Like if you guys were ever dating someone
and they did something and you were like,
immediately, no.
I was dating this guy over the fall
until one day he woke up and played a whole Neon
Trees album, like the one with Everybody Talks.
And I just, I couldn't do it anymore.
And then this one time a guy was being tried pulling off his hat and it just didn't work.
So I would love to know the truth about your deal breakers.
Okay.
Love you.
Bye.
This is a great question.
What are your deal breakers, Leah? Do I have, do you have deal breakers? Oh,. Bye. This is a great question. What are your deal breakers, Leo?
Do I have? Do you have deal breakers?
Oh, in dating? Oh, yeah.
I'm 29 morbidly obese. Like, what do you mean?
I'm not like...
You are a successful,
funny, sexy
man in his prime. It's not enough.
Oh, it is for me. I've got deal breakers for sure.
I kick these hoes to the corner, left and right.
Do you have a roster?
Yes.
Shut up.
No, I'm not trying to.
I have guys I see casually in the cities I go to most often.
When I'm in New York, there are guys I see.
There's guys in Chicago that I see.
Less in L.A.
It's hard to date as a fat person in L.A.
You're telling me.
I have dated in so many major US cities
and a couple abroad.
And LA's the worst city
in the world
that I've ever tried to date in.
Okay.
Horrible.
Where's the best?
The best?
For me,
I have probably had
the most fun
and the most luck in New new york really yeah had great
times in new york i haven't no you know what one time i was in reno this was not even that long
ago maybe uh maybe like eight months ago and uh you know you know you have a hotel to yourself.
Come on now.
You got a little spot.
Ooh.
And it was a suite, Caleb.
Come on.
I know it wasn't just a single room.
No, it was a suite.
It was a suite.
There was a nice stove in there.
Yeah.
And no, but then I get on, and then first message I get is like,
oh, you're from TikTok.
I was like, okay, cool.
Okay.
Never mind. So so i don't
i just don't try it now see i sleep with those people i i sleep with people who message me
things like that do you okay i have a question do you actually sleep with people because like
white people you guys love to say i sleep with people like do you actually go to sleep
with them or is that like are you? No, they don't stay over.
We're fucking, yeah.
So I fuck those people.
If you message me, oh, my God, I love your whatever, your TikToks or your stand-up or whatever, and you're cute, you can probably hit it.
Okay.
And you have deal breakers.
Oh, but I have deal breakers.
Because it sounds like you're a whore with no values.
No, if you're cute and you message me that you're a fan of me,
we can fuck for sure.
My deal breakers are for relationships.
When I'm dating, if you're mean,
if you're a mean-spirited person,
it's nothing new.
I don't think I'm unique for this, if you're like mean to a server or something
you don't tip um if you don't ask me questions about myself i if i'm on a first date and i have
asked you more than five questions in a row about yourself and you haven't asked me something
i'm telling you that i got a call and i need to leave like i you can't i cannot be because i've
been when i was younger and insecure and didn't feel sexy and desirable and worth somebody who's good to me,
I did so much heavy lifting and so much working and trying to stretch myself.
I would ask them a million questions, and I would put up with so much bad stuff.
But then once I really went through a journey of self-love and feeling confident and like, no, I'm sexy and funny and nice and a catch,
now I don't put up with any of that kind of shit.
That's just deal breakers for me.
My deal breaker is just music.
Like bad taste in music?
Okay, so what would be the number one thing?
Also, sorry, I completely was like, right, let me answer that.
Okay, actually.
I'm like, and I learned to love myself. And you're like, music.
Probably music.
I feel that 100%, for sure.
You do it, girl.
What is the biggest, what's the artist or song or genre that someone could love that would turn you off the most?
What is sublime?
Sorry.
You have an in for white people today.
You have an in for the Caucasian race today.
As I said it, I was like, wait.
And you know what sucks?
I get down to sublime.
I do.
You do?
Yeah, when Santa Ria comes on.
It's just being from where I'm from.
Yeah.
Well.
If you're white and you, if you're a white guy who grew up in Missouri and you would go out on the lake,
if you did lake culture, you're listening to Sublime.
Okay, but is it this song?
I don't practice Santeria.
Get Ready.
Get Ready by Sublime.
Can you play it?
Can I play it?
Oh, we probably can't play it, right?
You can play it.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know. Yeah. Well, it's just that one time I was it? Oh, we probably can't play it, right? We can't play it. Okay. Yeah. I don't know.
Yeah.
Well, it's just that one time I was driving my car in the IE.
Do you know the IE?
Mm-mm.
Oh, the Inland Empire.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And after that, I was like, oh, no, I can't.
Because he wanted to keep playing Sublime.
And I was like, oh, no.
The guy you were interested in. Well, it was no, I can't. Because he wanted to keep playing Sublime. And I was like, oh, no. The guy you were interested in.
Well, it was just like a quick little.
Hey, now.
But like with the windows down.
And like the thing is, he thought he was in a movie.
Because the window's down.
And it's like Sublime's playing super loud.
And I was driving.
And I was like, oh, I can't do this.
Because my thing is like, no, this is coming off super racist.
I want to be with a Spanish speaker.
No, that's not racist at all.
But I like to talk Spanglish, and I feel comfortable there.
And yeah, so I kind of got over that one,
but then the sublime came in, and I was like, okay,
that's where I fully draw the line.
Because I just couldn't. No, I, that's where I fully draw the line. Like, because like, I, I just couldn't.
No, I'm with you.
I couldn't do it.
And after that, you know, but then like, sometimes it gets hard because like, I don't like, it's hard to like meet people sometimes.
And so then it's just like, oh, you know what, I'll listen to Sublime again.
So you can get back on Sublime if it's been a while.
Yeah.
You're like, you know what What are your biggest green flags?
Like, what are the things that you go up for?
Good credit
740 or above
I was thinking 600
Oh, damn, okay
Yeah, I know
You're worth so much more than 600
No, no, no
No, biggest green flags is Just a nice person to everybody
I don't like people who are only nice to me
Yeah
I think if you're like
You know what?
Oh, you know what's so hot?
When someone is so nice to their parents
I'm like, oh my gosh
Like, you guys have a healthy relationship
And that's so weird
Yeah, so weird but i can't
look away like oh my god like you love hug your dad oh you know like there's a kiss him
uh no but um yeah i think that that's it and um just nice i think i um
uh family or i mean i didn't grow up here's the trauma i didn't grow up with family and so for me just nice. I think I family,
I didn't grow up, here's the trauma, I didn't
grow up with family and so for me, when I
see family, I'm like, ooh.
Because for a while, I was super against
it for a while. Not against it, but I was like,
ooh, I don't want to be there. It's so weird.
But now, I'm like,
this is nice. I got to get
out of my
territory or whatever. So yeah, anything like that, anybody who is nice like i gotta get like out of like my you know uh territory whatever and uh
so yeah anything like that anybody who likes uh the same music which is uh any sort of i love any
spanish music like do you like bad bunny yeah do you yeah i'm i wouldn't say i'm like a fan like i
don't think i could list off like i couldn't be like this song over this song
and this record
but anytime I hear
something by Bad Bunny
I'm like fuck yeah let's go
yeah yeah
I uh
I uh
love
I'll tell you what
my favorite piece of work
by Bad Bunny is right now
what
the pictures
that he dropped on Instagram
of him in the bathtub
sorry
that was like the hottest
thing I've ever seen
that
you didn't see the pictures
from last year what were the pictures from last year.
What were the pictures from last year?
I'm not going to pull them up, but I got to show you this.
No, because he posted something during the pandemic that was very, man.
He's so hot, he needs to stop.
Like, I'm like, every time he uploads a photograph to the internet, I'm in a way.
I'm still wondering what this message is.
the internet i get i'm in a way i'm still wondering what this message is um i responded this to one of his stories in september and i wish i knew what story it was
you by the way what i'm looking at is a phone screen of 3,000 messages you have sent to Bad Bunny.
It's just like November, September, October, November.
It's going over and over.
And can I say what you messaged him?
You messaged him to no response at 12.19 p.m. on September 4th.
Can I smell it, please?
And that's legend shit.
I don't know what story it was.
I love him.
Oh, my gosh.
Leo Gonzalez, horny legend.
Inventor of being horny.
Dangerously.
I made eye contact with him at the Grammys
last year. Down terrible. How was it?
It was crazy.
It was
me and, you know, Brew?
Brew. Brew on the radio.
Brew.
He's
killing it.
I'm kind of jealous and threatened by him.
But CBS invited Brew and I to go to Bad Bunny's rehearsal
for the show last year.
And we were sitting there, and I was like, oh, my gosh.
And then at some point, Brew left because he's got a lot going on.
Closing deals in the bathroom, et cetera.'s like killing it it's like it's actually like angers me uh and we're like i
was like sitting there and it was just me and bad man just me and benito he like looked at me
and like i didn't want to talk to him because i don't want CBS to be like, get out, you fuck. I didn't want them to tackle me.
And so he looks at me, and I literally just went like this.
I was just like.
And he looked, and he sees me, and he's like, oh, my God.
I need him so bad.
That, like, pussy was purring.
Purring.
I'll fight Kendall.
My whole body is like, I feel like I'm paralyzed right now.
Like, if he did that to me, here's what I'll say.
If I ever came to political power and somebody did something like that
and then didn't fuck me, enjoy prison, baby.
Enjoy that cell that you'll be
pacing around in you're gonna give me this guy you're gonna give me beautiful lady in a cartoon
hand and you're not gonna come fuck me enjoy prison expeditiously yeah three hots and a cot
for you bitch it's abolished prisons with me but not for that that's crazy you're hitting me with the oh hello
yeah yeah i would that day it was so different yeah yeah that was my that was everything
congratulations that's huge so much i didn't ever know that you had had something like that happen
but i really feel so powerful i've been to his tour a few times and who else in that place can say that you
had his direct attention?
Yeah.
Like it's just you.
It's just you.
It was just,
I don't think that he,
I think in that moment he felt the same too.
I think that all the backup dancers,
like,
like his peripheral vision just like went away in that moment.
I think that it felt the same.
And you shared a similar moment with Joe Biden at the White House, correct?
Joe Biden went to you and said...
What'd you chuckle at? Oh, it happened?
Sorry, I was doing a good joke. That happened.
Fuck.
This is so humiliating.
I didn't know you and Joe... Joseph R. Biden?
Joseph Robinette Biden?
Yeah, he needs me bad.
Yeah, he needs me medically, bitch.
He thinks about me when he goes to sleep at night.
Honey.
I love, I love.
Have you been to the White House?
Oh, God.
When am I not at the White House?
I've never been invited.
Yeah, I've never been invited.
I don't have it like you do, baby. I'm not've never been invited. I don't have it like you do, baby.
I'm not like you.
No.
I don't have it like you.
Hey.
I'm an indie guy.
You're different.
I'm different.
You're unique.
I'm unique and special.
They keep me hidden because they know I'm such a prize.
They say, keep him in the reserves for when we really need him
yeah uh no i have not been was it what was that like for you
no it's good we don't have to talk about it i was just asking i didn't want i don't know now i feel
like i brought it up just to be like yeah i spoke there oh honey it's on my list of things to talk
about no no no no no it was fun it was great it was fun and great what is the thing that you would
most like,
if you could snap your fingers
right now,
all of Hollywood's into it,
we got the money,
what's the thing you would make?
What's the Leo project?
It would be the drama thing
that I wrote,
a series that I have
that I'm working on right now.
I think that would be
the thing that I'm like,
oh, I want Sandra Bullock
to watch.
Like, I want it to just be
like Jennifer,
you know, like that would be it. That's what I want Sandra Bullock to watch. Like, I want it to just be, like, Jennifer Gartland.
You know, like, that would be it.
That's what I want more than anything else on my list right now.
Yeah.
What is the, is it like a half hour, half hour episodes, hour long?
Yeah, they're hour, it's like a, I guess right now it's designed as, like,
as a mini series, like an eight-episode, an hour each.
Wow.
That's so cool.
And if someone would make it, that'd be pretty sick.
If there's any funding.
If there's anybody with money watching and you want to kind of throw it over here.
That's always the big thing.
I mean, that's been my...
I am consistently surprised,
having worked in entertainment now for a little bit, like a couple of years.
I'm consistently surprised at the things that there are money for and the things that there are not money for.
I'm like, it is baffling to me the amount of money that shuffles around this business.
And some of the things that there seems to be endless money for, I'm like, really?
Like what? Name it. what name it yeah if anyone
thinks on this podcast i'm gonna be naming things i don't like you're fucking crazy after what just
happened to io i don't think so um but yeah but then also the things the beautiful brilliant like
incredible genius things that there is not money for i'm like huh, huh, how? You know? In a business with this much money,
it always surprises me.
Yeah, so I'm looking for any sort of sugar daddies.
Must speak Spanish, must have money, must date sublime.
We're gathering the green flags.
Be nice to servers.
Be nice to servers.
I always feel so dumb saying that,
because anybody who's half a decent person feels that way.
But I'm like, it really is just like, there's like three stress tests, I think, on a relationship.
The first is a really early one, and it's how you treat servers.
The second is going to an event together where one of you doesn't know a lot of people, like a party or a family event, how you react in those situations.
And the third is travel specifically when it goes bad
canceled flight or hotel oh yeah hotel doesn't have the reservation or just a nightmare when
you're traveling that's a stress test that will reveal everything you need to know yeah no yeah
on the okay so we'll touch on each of those yeah let's just kind of
the um the server thing like i don't want you to only be nice to
servers i want you to submit yeah to the server let them dom you for real for real i every time
that a server comes i'm like i feel so like like i'm sorry that i'm thirsty. Yeah. I hate that I need more Sprite.
It's killing me to ask you for another Dr. Pepper.
I hate it because I'm just like, I'm sorry.
Hey, Kathy, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
It's just my fork came with like dry gravy on it.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
Can I just get another one?
If not, it's cool.
You know what?
Fuck it.
Fuck it. Fuck it. I'll buff it.
Kathy, and I know you've got...
Both your kids are starting high school right now.
I hate to bring the fork situation up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like, I see a hair. I'm like, this is mine.
It's mine. It's mine. Long and blonde.
Yeah, long and blonde.
That's one of my highlights.
Idiot. Idiot. Fuck. Dumb. Dumb. that's one of my highlights idiot idiot
no so I want them to
submit for sure
and that's one
what was the second one
oh the yeah yeah yeah
I think as I got older too
I'm like trying to be more social with
people and so I think
like I'm just trying to be like involved more like i never
used to be and so i'm trying to be a green flag too um and uh uh and then the travel thing there
was one time i came back from um new york or something or from dc with someone um and i don't
know i think there may have been a threat or something at the airport
and so traffic was like nobody was getting in or out of the airport and so we walked for um
like two miles uh to get an uber because the cars weren't moving And this person was so mad.
Whereas I was like, I'm just glad the plane landed.
I'm just glad we're here.
We're home.
We're going to walk a little bit.
That's okay.
We're able-bodied.
And I'm losing a little weight.
It's not for nothing.
Dropping a few pounds during the experience.
Yeah. And after that, I was like oh I don't
yeah I can't do that like I'm not trying to be with someone
cause also like someone overly positive it's like
alright yeah I don't need you to like
sing a song about it
I don't need you to be like the pain was
bad but we're gonna walk it on
out I'm like just walk
just walk and be regular. We'll do.
Yeah, overly positive is a real fucking buzzkill.
It is.
I hate.
But I'm learning to accept it.
Like, people who are so positive.
Because I think before I was like, fuck you.
Like, no, you're not.
You're lying.
But now I'm kind of becoming less negative.
I'm like, I think you're actually nice.
Yeah.
Like, I think, like, you actually, actually like someone like um uh you know what yeah my manager brendan uh he is so nice and positive
yeah that for like two years i was like what is this what is your deal what is fucking up with
brendan like why are you like you clearly want me to fail. Yeah. Like, you clearly
are not for me. Like, all these
things. And then, like, I
heard him have, like, a phone call with, like, his
mom. And she was
so nice. And I was like,
oh, you're just healthy. Yeah.
Like, what the, like,
you just, you're just a nice
guy. And, like, you know, and
I went to his house and his wife, he has a son and like a baby.
And they're all so nice.
And I'm like, oh, maybe, yeah, maybe you're more, maybe Leo is more traumatized than he thought.
And these people are just living their life and they're happy to be here.
And so I'm trying to work on that.
You get to the house.
The baby's like, can I get you anything?
Yeah.
We're so happy to have you over.
Oh, my gosh.
The baby's like wearing a little butler costume.
He's like, we thought it would be fun.
Is it too much?
Is it too much?
It's too much.
I'm taking it off.
You want me to keep it on?
I'll keep it on.
Like an infant. off you want me to keep it on i'll keep it on like an infant whatever you want we do have the saunas ready if you want to hop in but if it's just a chat drop by we love that too yeah yeah whatever i just don't want to be anything else
you know yeah we need are you okay yeah are you good no water i'm good get the sparkling get this
can we get him can we get him a water? Like snaps at the parents.
Leo needs a water.
Hey, Bren!
Get the fucking water.
And it's like, oh my God.
Oh, awesome.
We brought Leo over and we don't have water?
Fucking awesome.
She's, Leo, literally if I was in charge,
you know, honey, this would have been. Oh my gosh.
I love imagining that baby.
Okay.
Someone get out a final draft.
We're sort of cooking up a script.
Yeah.
Leo, what is something that is so true to you?
What's something that is like your core?
Like one of mine is that the,
I say this all the time.
People are going to get sick of hearing it.
The Beatles lucked into what the Rascal Flats deserved.
I feel that way.
Oh.
Beatles,
not very good.
Music's fine.
Decent.
Hot take.
Not much going on.
Yellow Submarine,
you give or you take.
You know what I mean?
But when the Rascal Flats come on,
life is a highway.
No,
no,
life is a highway. Everybody, life is a highway.
Everybody shakes their ass.
Yeah, put on Yellow Submarine at a party
and see what people do.
Yeah, see what happens.
Put on Rascal Flats, me and my gang,
and see if vibes are a little different.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, that's so...
Have you seen them in concert?
Rascal Flats?
Yeah, yeah.
No.
Okay.
Haven't had the pleasure.
Okay.
No worries. Just said you liked Yeah, yeah. No. Okay. Haven't had the pleasure. Okay. No worries.
Just said you liked him.
Yeah, like a fan.
No, love, love.
Do you like Luke Bryan?
Luke Bryan.
Don't know much of his stuff.
Oh, okay.
Is he the one who goes, country girl, shake it for me?
No.
No worries.
So, no, I don't think so.
No, he does, he's like, he's like, Crash My Party.
Oh, I love that song.
I don't want this night to end.
Yeah.
So fun.
Oh, yeah, he's great.
He is country girl shake it for me.
Oh, he is country girl shake it for me.
Is it?
Vindication.
He's so good.
He's great.
He's so good.
No.
So what am I?
Something that's true to me.
Okay, Leo.
We have a true or false segment. this is this is actually a huge opportunity because if you get what was the
number chance if you get how many do we have 15 if you get 10 of these right i'm gonna give you
50 us dollars okay now this is you can use anywhere you want this is us cash like physical
cash venmo but you physical cash? Venmo.
But you just cash it out however you like.
Yeah, well, we'll figure out the payment process. I'm assuming I'm going to win.
You're like, you better have the cash now.
Bitcoin or nothing.
Or nothing.
So this is, I have 15 true or false questions for you.
I'm going to say a statement.
You're going to tell me if you think it's true or false.
The lights don't dim?
They don't dim.
Okay.
And I'm just as quick as you can do them.
Let's see what happens.
The Goodyear blimp is the official city bird for Redondo Beach, California.
True.
True.
The boiling point of water is 110 degrees Fahrenheit.
True.
False.
212.
Humans have the same number of neck vertebrae as giraffes.
True.
True.
Tom Sawyer was a real person.
True.
False.
Curious George does not have a tail.
Curious George does not have a tail.
True.
True.
The first email was sent in 1992.
True.
False.
1971.
Whoa.
The most expensive Pokemon card ever sold is worth $2.5 million.
True. True. Vine videos were seven seconds long. False. The most expensive Pokemon card ever sold is worth $2.5 million. True.
True.
Vine videos were seven seconds long.
False.
That's right.
You know it was six, baby.
Identical twins have the same fingerprints.
False.
False.
One in 18 people have a third nipple.
That much?
False.
True.
A lightning bolt is five times hotter than the surface of the sun.
False.
True.
Sacramento is California's third state capital.
False.
False.
It's the sixth.
You must have at least 1,000 followers to go live on TikTok.
True.
True.
McDonald's was originally a barbecue restaurant.
False.
True.
Steve Perry from Journey was born in Stockton, California.
False.
Hanford, California.
Bitch.
Let's go!
How many did he get?
Like nine.
Oh, no!
So that Zell thing got figured out pretty quickly.
Yeah, we wrapped that up with a bow, didn't we, honey?
Oh, my gosh.
Some of those were unbelievable.
I know.
We get real, I will say, we get chance rights, and when we get real litigious with the numbers,
we'll be like, it was 211.
False, 212.
We're really running kind of a fucked up show here.
You should offer more money then.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Leo's like, awesome, and when do I give my notes on how this was all ran?
Would you guys like it in writing or just kind of now on mic?
We can do it now.
Yeah, I'm happy to do it now.
It's documented.
Yeah.
And put it out.
Release it.
Release the footage for real.
A little web extra.
Okay, guys, go over to Patreon where we will be talking with Leo about what he hated about this experience.
Don't forget to check it out, you guys.
It's $50 a month.
I'm in a bad way with some worse people.
Oh, my God.
Leo, I'm such a fan of yours.
Thank you so much for doing this.
Oh, yeah. Robert, what do'm such a fan of yours. Thank you so much for doing this. Oh, yeah.
Robert, what do you think Leo's so true is?
Well, Murat is my favorite band.
What is that?
It's a band from Colombia, Colombia.
And they're the best.
It's just like, I guess I can't say they're the Spanish Beatles.
Guess I'll have to steer away from that.
The Spanish Rascal Flats.
I'm in.
They're like a mix of
they feel like a little
they're Spanish, but they feel like a mix
of Mumford and Sons and
maybe Coldplay.
Maybe One Republic. I'm in it.
I just love them so much.
But that can't be it.
That can't be the thing.
I'm in deep on that.
They sing all in Spanish?
Yeah.
All the songs?
I'm here for it.
I'm going to see them actually in like 12 days.
Where at?
Here in LA at the YouTube Theater.
Hell yeah. I'm so excited. And you know who I'm seeing two days LA at the YouTube theater. Hell yeah.
I'm so excited.
And you know who I'm seeing
two days before that?
Come on.
Bad Bunny.
Okay.
You have a huge
couple weeks coming up.
I mean,
first you get booked
on this podcast,
which is like,
I know was just a big...
No,
my agents,
after they told me
to not do it,
they were like,
but it is a good opportunity.
It's bad business to be aligned with him, but God, you got to get in there.
Yeah, publicity, any publicity.
Anything works.
Bad Bunny and Murat?
Murat, yeah.
So February 23rd, Bad Bunny in Vegas.
Yeah.
February 25th, Murat in LA.
These are your plugs.
You're like, guys, please get out to see Bad Bunny in Vegas.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Make sure you get the merch, man.
He's just been really going through a lot after Kendall.
What's going on with me?
You guys can support me by going out and seeing Bad Bunny in Vegas.
Catch Marat in LA.
Every night, every Thursday, CBS runs a great sitcom.
I'm not a part of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No season of The Neighborhood, so make sure please tune into that.
Oh my god.
No, yeah.
You do concerts. Love concerts.
Did you do Taylor Swift?
I did two nights of the heirs tour.
Yeah.
Didn't pay for the tickets, y'all. Don't have it like that.
Let's just blow it.
No, I went, my friends were opening for Taylor in Kansas City, where I'm from.
And so I went to see both nights.
Well, hold on.
No, hold on.
Hold on.
Oh, here we go.
Oh, all right.
Here we go.
It's illegal to have friends.
Who are your friends?
Muna.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
Oh.
Yeah.
So I kill with lesbians.
Yeah.
Yeah. I can have pretty much any lesbian any time. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. So I kill with lesbians. Yeah. Yeah.
I can have pretty much any lesbian any time.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Did you meet Taylor?
No, I have not met Taylor.
The show was amazing, though, dude.
I actually had a really kind of cathartic experience at the Aris Tour because I've always liked Taylor Swift.
I wouldn't say I'm a Swifty.
I don't keep up the way,
because her fans are, it's a job.
Yeah, it's a full time.
So I don't want to do Stolen Valor.
I'm like, y'all are the older ones.
I just love her music.
I loved Tim McGraw when it came out.
I've been around.
Picture to burn.
I'll tell mine that you're gay.
I loved her when she was homophobic.
I loved her sex.
She's dating Travis Kelsey,
one of my favorite football players.
I'm in on Taylor. But at the concert,
I had a really cathartic experience because it was
at Arrowhead Stadium where the Chiefs play football
and I grew up not far from there.
And growing up gay in Missouri,
there's a lot of just like,
I felt a lot of tension just being
where I'm from and football
was, I played football growing up and it was such a masculine
like hetero feeling thing,
but I knew I was gay.
And to see Muna,
such a queer band that I adore as artists
and also as human beings,
to see them play there
and people holding up like pride flags
in Arrowhead Stadium,
it was just like a conversion of things
that were important to me
in a way that never felt possible
when I was a kid.
Like I could have never imagined I'd be watching
a queer band perform
at Arrowhead with pride flags in the fucking stadium.
And I just was like,
I really was looking around and going like,
this is crazy, I never dreamed of it.
It just felt so, everything felt so
copacetic and unified
in a way that when I was a kid just felt like they could never.
Oh my gosh.
That's so, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great.
I just went there too, to Arrowhead.
You went to Arrowhead? Oh, you did a tailgate
at Arrowhead. Did you have fun?
It was fun. Your place is so
pretty.
It's very special.
For you to feel those things, it's like, oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Did you feel like healing?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I talk about healing a lot.
No, healing is a great word for it.
It felt very healing.
Yeah.
It felt like, whoa, all these things that felt incongruous about me as a kid,
all these things that felt like they were bad or wouldn't work together
or the puzzle pieces couldn't possibly fit.
Now here I am as an adult with this life I've built for myself that I love,
and everything's okay.
And your friends being these people, artists and you're i don't know like what a what a crazy feeling right
yeah for you to be there with your friends and your friends are and i think that's what's special
about this job that we get to have is like being friends with other people who are chasing their thing,
and that leads you back home.
Yeah.
Like, oh, my gosh.
And I will say, yeah, a bunch of friends had come in to see the show as well,
and I had just a month or two before that bought my house in Kansas City,
and so I had my housewarming party that weekend,
and it was like a bunch of friends from L.A. that I adore,
and then a bunch of friends from, like, growing up,
and new friends from Kansas City, and my new neighbors.
And, like, it just was a weekend that I was, like,
yeah, there was a big feeling of, like,
everything worked out fine.
You know, you're doing good.
Everything is good.
And it was very nice.
Take your shirt off at the pool.
Take your shirt off at the pool.
Take it off.
You know what?
Don't spend one more day
swimming in that shirt.
Don't spend one more day
putting up with that guy
who loves Sublime.
Ask for what you need.
Wait, you want a house?
Yeah.
It's not nothing.
They practically give them away
in Kansas City.
You don't have to be doing very
well to buy a house.
It's a huge
accomplishment and honor
and I'm very grateful.
Just really by being gay
on the internet, crazy what that'll get you.
I just get on the internet and I go
like,
POV, the bar what that'll get you. I just get on the internet and I go like, yeah,
like POV,
the barista was rude to you.
TikTok's like,
like kicking my feet up
in my mansion.
Yeah.
But that was it.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
What is,
you said you talk about healing a lot
and you have brought it up a couple times.
Yeah, a little too much.
No, not too much at all.
I adore it.
What has been – are you on a healing journey?
What's going on with you in that realm?
Yeah.
What are you laughing at, Robert?
Was there a joke there?
No, because I wasn't kidding around, so I guess –
And that's your guy?
Your circle.
Right, and so he's inner circle, and you brought him in here?
Into the safe space.
But he's mocking you?
And he's inner sanctum.
Huh.
But what are you healing from?
I can't imagine.
No, yeah, yeah.
I think this whole thing is healing.
I think this whole job is healing.
It's, you know, it's so special to be, I think I used to,
I used to tell a lot of jokes in, like, junior high,
and then, like, life got a little busy after that.
And then we picked up again like four years ago.
And so I think that's healing when you get to remember like, oh, yeah, things used to be funny back then.
And now we get to do what we were always doing, messing around, joking around, laughing at our human experience.
And it brings you great people, some not so great people.
And healing comes with it. And so, yeah, I feel like the little kid is getting checked off a bunch of things.
Yeah.
I don't have a house, though.
Yeah.
And don't ever forget it.
No, but it's so obvious
through the things that you make that you're
such an empathetic
and smart and funny and kind
person that you've garnered this
huge fan base of people who want to see you win, and a couple
people in your inner circle that you need to check out.
But yeah,
you deserve it all.
You're the best.
And I'm such a huge fan.
I can't believe you came and did the pod, dude.
I can't believe you let me in.
Yeah.
Well, it was a conversation.
Yeah.
The security was like, do we let him in? He's outside screaming that he doesn't like you with his agents on the phone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're trying to convince him.
I don't know.
No, thanks for being here.
No, thank you so much.
Anytime.
Anytime.
I'll be back. Oh, cool. Tomorrow or so much. Anytime. Anytime. I'll be back.
Oh, cool.
Tomorrow?
You think I'm joking.
I'll be back.
I live nine minutes away.
So it's not a big deal to me.
Gas was good today.
Leo Gonzalez, we did it.
That was toxic, right?