So True with Caleb Hearon - Rachel Sennott is Popping In

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

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This is a headgum podcast. Anyways, at the end of it, he said happy Valentine's Day. And I fixed it. In what way? Just in like a like, happy Valentine's Day, I guess. We are trying to cancel you this episode. Okay, good, good. I just think the show, you're getting too powerful.

And we should shut it down. So now I'm asking people, I'm pulling skeletons out of your closet. I'm saying, let's cancel Rachel, let's cancel Rachel. Good. And I'll try to like come up with stuff too or say incriminating things. About yourself. About myself or just bad takes or things that people will really hate. Yeah. Just to, just so that we have like a lot of options.

You would be surprised at how many people seem to be taking that approach on this show. Yeah. How many people come on here and they say something and I'm like, I've never heard you say something like that. Yeah. You're like, I've known you for taking that. 10 years and this you chose today, you're like, oh, okay, that's how you feel. I'm not going to talk about who in specific, but there has been, Casey, what's up, brother, we got a problem?

I'm going to go through and try to see from clips. You also know when someone's like, this is going to go viral. You know what I mean? Where you're like, they're like, um, I've got something to say. I have something to say it's really crazy. Smoking is good for babies or what, they just like do something so insane that you're like, got it, got it. Dude, how are you?

I'm good. I miss you so much. No, we've been bad. We've been, but we have, I feel like, when you shoot a film in Toronto, you create a bond for the rest of your life. Yeah. Well, something funny about the film that we shot in Toronto, it's where I fell in love with you. It's where I fell in love with you. That I said, I already liked this girl, but this is actually a soul sister of mine. Yeah.

And when we made that movie, I didn't necessarily think about the fact that, because at the time it wasn't called I used to be funny I don't think and then I didn't think about the fact that by the way famously it was called broken Sam back then yeah I didn't think about the fact that with so many comedians in it people were going to think it was a comedy yeah I get so many DMs being like hey just watch your movie with Rachel Senate um she's amazing in it total star I'm like very fucked up from yeah no people are like so I'm really confused I wanted like just like a fun plane watch and now I feel sick how about devastating film about the worst topic we have yeah can I I offer, can I interest you in that?

Can I offer you that? Can I offer you that? And then also when we did press, we were like, what was it like filming? Well, there were all these cute like places to go in Toronto, nothing about, and then the content of the movie, it's like, okay. Okay, so that's actually deeply devastating to me. Yeah.

But I think that made our, like, I don't know, because then we had more fun. We were like, we have to have fun on set. There was, of course, the famous crying day. Well, there was a, do you want to tell this? Because obviously I come across kind of childish in it. No. What's a bad look for me, and I would love for you to tell it.

No, no, it was just, it was like I had to cry a lot. It was a big day where you had to be, you're an incredible actor, and I think people who are watching this already know that about you. You're an unreal, very, very talented actor in addition to being fun. It's, like, insane, actually. But you had to do this big crying day that was like, for any actor, it would be like, it's a feat. You have to, like, lock in.

You have to lock in. You sort of, like, choose your corner of the room, and you sort of, like, sit. By the way, I think I'm better. now at that point I was like so stressed about like crying and then I would like sit in the corner and like stare at a wall and like think about things and then so anyways there's this really great photo of me Caleb and Sabrina with me in the background like this trying to pull trying to pull on something me and Sabrina truly like there there was the there was the courthouse day where you had a big like in this film I used to be funny written directed by

Allie, thank you, genius. Genius. Friend of the pod. But there was this scene where the courthouse was very emotional for you. And for us, too, but we're in the background, you know? Yeah. So Sabrina and I walk on to set, not reading the room at all. Sabrina walk on a set like,

blah, blah, blah, blah. Who wants to fuck? Like, being insane. True. And Rachel's just like... Trembling in the corner. But it's also a lot to ask, because I've been in scenes where it's like, you, your character is in the scene, but you're not in this.

It's not as demanding for you. and you're like do we really have to all like do i have to cry too just out of you know what i mean out of support when like someone especially in like an ensemble thing where you're like you're like you cry over there i'm gonna do games on my phone like i'll watch ticot with the captions on you lock into your journey but that was that that that photo was amazing dude there was one of the biggest one of the biggest regrets i have from that movie is that they didn't choose there was a I'm behind you because the scenes about this shot's about you but I did

get myself to cry during one of the announcements of that scene and they didn't use the one where it was close on me while I was crying yeah you're like I was like I got it I got it I cried I cried on that one and I I'm not as you're you're so good and so locked in like I would be terrified by the way if I had to do like your role

in a movie like that and be so emotionally convincing so for me in the background to get a tear I was like turn the camera turn the camera turn it around show that you can do it like I was wanting it bad. I know I whenever you have a like a take where you're like that was the one and they're like well it's a wide and we weren't we were on your back and I'm like fuck well turn fucking always have one on my face always have one on my face. I don't care what you see in the background

because you're gonna get it once. Yeah I mean with me you're getting it once you're getting it once I get so much FOMO seeing the when I see anybody like you've post you've been posting stuff from your show of you guys working on it and I just get so excited because I'm like oh man I would love to be hanging out over there right now. I want to hang with those guys yeah it's like do I want to work the 17-hour days that Rachel's probably working right now? No. But I do want to go over there and hang out a little bit. I want to pop in for like six hours.

I want to bring coffee. Yeah. I'm going to be like, you-hoo. You-hoo. All right, I'll leave y'all to it. Good luck, you guys. Good luck. That's like my favorite. Just when it gets unfun, I'm like, okay, good luck with the rest of the day. Yeah. I'm going.

You guys have fun. I love it. And then everyone's just like, God, it was nice that Caleb dropped by. That's like my dream. The other thing that's amazing is like when you're like a small role in something or like you're not like a cameo but when you get to like be a part of a shoot but you leave before the shoot gets hard yes and then everyone's like oh remember when rachel was here and it was so fun but it has nothing to do with it's just you're there earlier in the shoot for a less amount of time so it's like people didn't really

get to know me and like have my personality great on them gradually over the course of a couple doesn't happen with you but yeah but you know what I mean it's like you pop in you pop out you're like that's all that's all it's a dream to pop in I love to pop it popping in is the dream yeah popping in is the dream I really that was what I did a thing in overcompensating where I was in it for like two scenes by the way mind you one of them got cut and shout out to Benny Benny but I'm truly popping in is the dream I was like they've all been there forever yeah they're exhausted I come in for two days I'm a fucking delight you're a delay leave then you leave I let

And you get to like, I also, it's like, I can find a fabulous establishment anywhere for two days. Like, do you know what I mean? You go to the one restaurant. You go to the one coffee shop. Yes. But when you're there for three months, you're like, all they have is this one type of food or this one place. Yeah. But if you're there for a second, you're like, I want to sample their cheesecake factor or whatever they're, like, whatever their, like, diner.

Like, I feel like every state has, like, some random thing. or restaurant that you're like I'm gonna pop into this and like experience this I 100% identify with what you're saying the first two days in any place you're like I get why people live here I envision my whole life there by the way week six in Wilmington you're like someone must kill me

someone must kill me I have nothing to eat I've run out of stuff I've run out of stuff you also want to tell the residents of the town you're like you choose to live here all the time why are you going to the same there's only one museum here and it's kind of a joke and I've been three times and I've been a bunch and I don't know how you keep going yeah and they're like we don't go

And I'm like, okay. Okay. So you have a family, okay. Huh. I need to look into that. Yeah. Oh, the school system is really good here. Okay, got it, got it.

Okay, so different priorities, got it. You're not me. But then if I'm there for two days, I do fantasize about living in a town. Also, like, I can really get behind, like, do you know how in, like, random towns are sort of, like, fashion for that town? Yes. Like, you walk by a store and it's, like, knit ponchos. I'm like, I need six of those. I'm a knit poncho girl.

I live in this. random town in like upstate New York and I go to their one bakery like that that's the fantasy. It's the knit poncho asance and I'm leading the charge yep yeah I'm moving to Beacon I'm getting up there done well okay I have to ask you I want to ask you about the show

you're what can you tell me about it can you tell me what it's about can you tell me who's in it can you tell me what you're loving and hating I can tell you the title because we just said it I know I'm so excited it's called I love L.A. I love L.A. I love L.A. That song bangs, by the way.

That song fucking bangs. I listened to it. When we were moving out here from Chicago, like a bunch of our friends, that was like a big joke because we were playing that for weeks being like, get into it. Get into it. We love it. I feel like it's also like layered because when you first moved here, did you love it right away?

Like what was your journey with when you moved here? I actually did. I mean, I don't live here anymore, but like I moved here during COVID and it was such a funny thing where like everything was shut down. No one was on the freeways. So I was just like, every day for fun, me and Chance and Shelby and a couple other buddies who had moved here around the same time, we were just the only thing we could do is like, COVID test, get in the car, drive around together with the windows down and listen to music. And so I was just driving around L.A. being like, this place is gorgeous. Yeah, there's no traffic.

There's no traffic. And that's how I got to know, like, driving around L.A. Yeah. And then, yeah, the second thing started coming back, it just felt like, it felt like we were in the most special place on Earth. Yeah. And I do feel that L.A. is like such a beautiful special city. Yeah. Is that, is the show, why did you choose I love?

of L.A. for the title. I think like it was because I moved here also during COVID but I had a and by the way the memory of all there was to do was take COVID test. That took up so much time of our life. And I took like so many different times. I did

like spit in a jar, fill the whole jar with your spit. No swab like mouth temperature cone thing. It was really mind you I got the vaccine from two soldiers in a parking garage in long beach. Like it was a scary time. It was a scary time. It was scary. And I cried.

When you got the vaccine. When I got the vaccine, I cried. I literally stepped outside the parking garage in Long Beach and I was like, ah! I was like seeing colors again for the first time. It's insane. They're like, stay here for a little bit. You might pass out.

I don't care. I don't care. I would love to die at this parking garage. I would love to with these two. With soldiers is crazy. National guards, people were like, okay, lift your sleeve. I was like, yes, sir. Like, I was scared, but I was ready.

Yeah, totally. I feel like I came here to be on a sitcom. and I didn't really know it was a sitcom when I did it because I like auditioned for it before COVID and then I just got the pilot but then they picked up the show but I was like I didn't realize it was like

on a state I was so confused I didn't know anything and I like crashed my car like one week into being in L.A. My rental car was disaster and there were really bad fires and I was living in North Hollywood same

that is such a... By the way! By the way... North Hollywood! Moving to North Hollywood is a ride of passage. You have to. You have to.

You have to. I was like in... Do you know how they like... Pop up those like buildings that are like... This used to be a parking garage. Now it's a parking garage with three apartments over it.

That was like where I was staying and I remember I like got out of my car like out of my Uber out of the airport and I walked up to the building and there was human shit. Like a huge amount of... human shit. I love L.A.

I love L.A. It was like, it was just a steaming pile of shit, like, right outside the door, and the sky was, like, brown from the fires. Yeah. And I was, like, fabulous. Okay, my dream has come true. My dream has come true. And so I think, like, it took me, I think it's, like, a little bit the perspective of, like,

moving from a different coast and, like, figuring it out, but then, like, loving. so much about it um but yeah that was that also like i'm not a good driver like i have gotten into so many car how many car accents have you gotten oh god probably i want to know what a normal amount is before i say a lot okay yeah yeah before i say my number yeah um we're doing body count yeah what's your number i'll do like three less than that yeah um god i don't know i guess maybe I'm trying to think. I think three. I think three.

Yeah. Okay. Ever? Or, you know, that? A total of life? A total of life. Really? And one was a deer in high school.

Okay. So is that making you feel really bad? Because I don't want to make you feel bad. I want to say some of my car accidents, I'm calling them car accidents, are like little scratches or scrapes like in a parking garage. I'll go to five then. I'll go to five. Okay.

Okay. I can go to five on that. Okay. If it's hitting, if it's hitting something in a parking garage, I can go to five. Okay, okay.

Yours is, is yours north of 20? No, no, no. Well, just the way you're responding, I'm like scared for you. No, no, but it's like, each one is like,

you know, is one, you know? I got, my most, you know, like, my most recent car accident was on Valentine's Day.

Yeah. And it was a disaster. And the thing that I, that I really struggle with is like not immediately taking fault. Yeah. To be fair,

it was, fully my fault. I changed lanes at a stoplight where no one was moving and a car was coming and I just I checked but I didn't. I have a hard time like guessing the speed of other cars

and also like knowing how close other cars are to mine and then also how big my car is. Yeah those are some pretty important things. I get my license. Each one is a one each one of those so I got like I got overwhelmed. So anyways, he

crashed. Basically, I went into the lane without warning from zero speed to fast speed and he crashed into my car. And then he, we both got out of our cars and then he was like mad at me. Totally fair. Totally fair. That's his right. Yeah.

And I like immediately was like, I'm so sorry, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Because you're not supposed to do that. But I just was like, I know this is my fault. I totally know this is my fault. Yeah. Anyways, at the end of it, he said happy Valentine's Day and um I fixed it in what way just in like a like happy Valentine's Day I guess it was like so okay loving him actually loving him he was actually

really sweet after I was said sorry yeah and then it was totally fine no one was her there was just damage to both cars that I had to pay for which was ultimately not great but it's okay it's It's okay, but that was my most recent one was Valentine's Day. So it's actually been a while. It's been a while. That's months ago, by the way. I feel like I, we talked about this. It's like every six months.

Once you get in a car accident, you're safe for six months. Yeah, totally. And then you get in another. I just want to say to your defense, like, you're a beautiful, sweet girl in L.A. who works in entertainment. They should have, like, a subsidy for you. Like, twice a year, some network should pay for your car accident. Yes.

Like, Warner Brothers, pay for this. Just cover it. She's a beautiful, fun, young woman. I'm driving to work, stress. She's making TV so that nurses can watch something when they get off shift. Like, pay for her car accidents. People, yeah, exactly. She's going to merge without signaling.

Yes. I don't know what to say. Sorry. I don't know what to say. Sorry. I can't signal. I'm thinking of ideas. Hello.

She's breaking story. She's breaking story. She has to merge without signaling. Yeah, I can't. We need a C-runner now. Yes. We need a C-Story runner now. No, we can't, we can't be, yeah.

I, once I'm in college, I hit a girl. Hold on. I was turning in my car. Okay. And this girl, she was in the right. She was driving. I was turning. She hit my car.

Okay. She was in a car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah. Girl was in car. I hit a car that contained a girl. Okay, totally. Already I'm on your side.

Right. It's like the car contained a girl. I had no way of knowing that. Yeah. I would, by the way, if I knew it was a girl in there, I never would have done this. I never would have, but I turned in a way that forced her to hit me. It was totally my fault. We got out and I was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry.

And she was like, I actually come to your improv shows every week. And I was like, oh, my God, that's so sweet. Do you want to go to dinner? And then we went to dinner and she was like, it's crazy how you made me hit you back there. I was like, I know, girl. And then we talked about life. And I was like, I have an improv show tonight. Do you want to come?

She's like, yeah, I was putting on going. I was like, okay, do you remember this? And she came, I believe her name was Becca, maybe? Becca. But she came to the improv show. And then I was like, hey, no pressure at all, but like, do you think our parents could just, like, talk this out kind of buddy style without the insurance companies? And she was like, I'll ask my dad. And her dad was like, absolutely not.

So I didn't have to pay for that. You did the dad. Do you want to come to my improv show? How do you feel about improv comedy, sir? Yeah. And he said, I feel like give me your insurance information. Yeah. Give me that card right now.

Go ahead and call Geico. Oh, my God. But, yeah, girls, yeah, girls and entertainers, like, I just think we deserve. to merge. Yeah. We just we're thinking, we're juggling a lot. We're juggling a lot and we have a lot going on and it's like people think being an entertainer is so easy but you try

thinking of a third act interesting scenario while signaling that you're going to turn. You can't, you can't. You can't. You can't. You could never and nor can I. Nor can I. I can't do it. By the way, I can't do it. I've never thought of a good idea but I'm trying. But I'm in the car and I'm trying. I also when you said I hit a girl. I've been hit by a car walking.

Okay. But I'm okay, obviously. She's good, everybody. But I'm totally fine. It was on the Shakespeare Bridge in Los Phyllis. Okay. And it's like, do you know that intersection? It's sort of like three walkways.

Yeah. But to cross, you're sort of asking minimum three, sometimes four cars not to drive. Yeah. Which is really hard to do when you're in L.A. is to ask a car not to drive. Cars love to drive in L.A. Cars love to drive in L.A. In New York, it's like sort of like, good luck.

Yeah. But here, it's like, you're asking a lot to have them not. Well, in New York, you just bang on the hood and you go, I'm going to, you know, but in L.A. I don't know. I'm going to go like, sorry, you know, it's different.

Even if it's a walk signal. Yeah. So anyways, I'm walking. I'm on the phone with my friend Emma, and I'm like, whatever, complaining, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then a car turns and hits me, but, like, slowly. and it was like a low car

I don't know the name of any cars except for like truck yeah truck no and that's one of the biggest types by the way yes like in your defense truck is one of the main cars truck is one of the main cars and thank God it wasn't a truck it was like

a low car it was like a little car it was like a business car it was like yes like I think of like someone who like goes to an office that's kind of the car they drive yeah they have like a small clutch small clutch

little purse and the front of it was long if anyone knows what kind of car this is let me know at the moment it sounds like an El Camino that's old yes okay but that's one of the types of cars one of the types of cars

especially in LA it was like medium new it felt like they bought it used but good yeah anyways she hits me and I sort of fall onto the car my phone gets knocked out of my hand my water bottle and then I fall on the ground Where, okay, so can I suggest, when the car hits you, so if these are your legs and they have the knee joints, do you get hit like this and fall back onto the car or do you get hit from the side?

It's sort of like I saw the car coming and I go, I go, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, mister. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I literally was trying. You're on one skate holding pizza boxes. Yeah. It's like, does he, they can't hear you. If they're making the turn, they can't see, you know what I mean? Like, it's like me saying, whoa, was not going to stop.

But I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, and sort of turn towards the car. Really good survival on sticks. And so then I land kind of like on it, but then I fall back on the ground. Water bottle and phone out of my hand. Yeah. Then it's like already, this is like a packed intersection. Everybody like stops. There's like a couple walking their dog.

I start to cry because I'm like scared. or whatever. Because I got hit by a car, yeah. Because I got hit by a car. I can't explain it, but I do start to cry randomly. I do you cry embarrassing. And then the woman who hit me, she gets out of her car. She starts crying.

Which I would also do if I was crying. This is frankly, Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. Literally. This is the Yaya Sisterhood. Yep. And she starts crying. And then everyone's sort of like looking. It's, I'm, I, the wind's knocked out of me, but I'm like, have a little scrapes, but I'm fine.

Yeah. I get up. I forget, by the way, that my friend is on the phone. So my friend, Emma, they're, like, listening to this whole thing. And it's, like, by the way, like, imagine me on the phone being like, yeah, I just, I think it's, like, weird that, like, you know, they didn't reply to my email, blah, blah, blah, blah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, it's so funny.

Like, bitching on the phone about something so unimportant. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't get out of bed for less than 50. Whoa, whoa, whoa. literally and then the couple walking the dog they like intervene in case like they're sort of trying to intervene between me and the woman that hit me but me and the woman that hit me sort of connect immediately because she starts crying she goes this is so devastating I'm on my way to a funeral no yes and by the way if she's lying brilliant brilliant brilliant she goes I'm on my way to a funeral and I'm so sorry, this just reminded me how precious life is. Well, and this is, do you see what could

happen if the world was only women? Do you see how a horrible theme immediately became like an interesting, beautiful musing on like our time here on earth? Yeah, we... If it was a man, he would be like, you dumb, bra, you know? Why are you walking that way? What are you walking that way? What do you mean? Whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you mean?

And then, and then the couple with the dog was sort of like, are you okay to me? I was like, yes, and then to the woman, they were like, are you okay? And she was like, no. And then she gets back in the car drives away. I sort of pick up the phone and say to my friend Emma, like, don't worry, I'm not dead. Emma was like, that was crazy. And then it was fine, but it was sort of, it was almost awkward after we all realized, like, we were all fine.

Because then the couple was like, all right, we're just going to walk, do the rest of the walk with our dog. And the woman was like, I'm going to go to the funeral. Everyone's, like, embarrassed that they made a big deal. Yeah, no, literally weird. I was like, I'm just going to go home. It's all good. Yeah. But that was my car hits.

Yeah. Your whoa, whoa, whoa, reminds me of something I do, I bike in New York a lot. Yeah. And many times on a bicycle in New York, someone's about to hit me, and I'll just go, don't. I just yell don't. Don't. And then they usually don't. Yeah.

See, the thing is, though, is that I feel like a verbal warning is helpful, and it's also like an energy thing. Yeah. When you go, don't. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. I'm going to try don't next time. Try it don't because it works.

Because whoa, whoa, whoa sort of feels like, I can't believe this is happening. Versus like, don't is like, stop right there. It's not going to happen. Stop. I had, like, truly a week ago, I was biking in Bushwick, a humiliating thing to have to say out loud. Because it's just like, of course you were. Of course. You know what I mean?

I was biking through Bushwick, and this woman, this woman, like, threw her door open and almost doored me to death. Yeah. And I, like, swerved, and I was like, God, damn it. And then she gets out of it. the car and she was a beautiful young woman and she goes she goes I'm so sorry I'm a huge fan and I was like not now not no I was like girl that means the world to me not now but not now you almost killed me no but truly it was psychotic how quickly I turned out she said that and I was like I was like thank you for watching you're like should we do a video and do me to say happy birthday

to anyone yeah yeah yeah I'm like I'm like do you want a picture like I immediately went into psycho mode but it was it was scary it was scary, but beautiful. Again, beautiful. Beautiful. If only women and gay people got into conflict. Peace. Because when two women are crying, it's like no one's at fault. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, when you got hit by that car, you were both women crying. So everyone just agreed, like, nothing happened to her. It neutralized the situation. Yeah. Yeah.

If I think if a woman, I did actually, I let a woman hit me with her car one time, hit my car with her car that was containing each of us. She re-ended me and she got out and she was, she fucked up the back of my car. And this is when I was like very, very, broke. Yeah. She fucked my car up and she got out and she was like, I'm so sorry, like, my kids are in there and like everybody's okay, but like I have no idea how I'm to pay for this, but like I'm going to figure it out. And I was like, get out of here. I was like, go. I was like, go. She was like, no, we have to call someone. I was like, get out of here. And I let her go. I'll let them take me. I was like, she's like, well, we can just

leave. She's like, no, we do get to make that choice. I'm like, go before they get here. I'm like, I'm going to jail for the rest of my life. I don't care. Go, honey. Go. Go. You be free. I'm going to take this. Yeah. And. truly she left and then like 10 minutes later I was like my neck hurts and my car's broke yeah you're like hold on I was like what do I was like truly my neck hurts and my car's fucked up yeah but it was like you know she had other shit going on yeah girls are going through a lot sometimes yeah oh my god today's episode is brought to you by alma you struggling with your mental health are you lonely well you don't have to go out of alone take a break from scrolling

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Kids in the car is rough. Kids in the car is crazy. Yeah. And it's like, of course, my neck is a little fucked up, but your kids are in there. Yeah. Hold on. I want to show you something, okay? Okay, I'm scared.

Don't be scared. It's going to be beautiful, I think. Okay. Okay, I just have to, oh, gosh, it's just so tough because I don't want you to have to see all of it, you know? Yeah. There's just one little thing I want to show you, if that's okay. Yes. So, um, you, well, I'll just, I'll just show you.

Oh, can we show it on the screen, chance? Yes, well, I just want the image. I just want the image. Not Rachel. Oh, my God. This is an image from you, this is an image from you in Lay, Missouri. Lame is a l'am. I want to know...

I want to know how this informed where we are today. Because here you are this iconic actress with this incredible HBO show. Wow, you really are trying to cancel me. But it's her, you know? It's her. Wait, is this bad?

No, it's just... I'm like, because by the way, we will cut this. We will. No, no. It's just the... What's really... Let me explain what's going on. Okay.

So, I am playing Madame Tenardier. Yes. in my high school performance of L'HMisr'Rav. And this is sort of me in between full costume and makeup. This is like a fitting photo. You know what I mean?

So it's also the plays would run for two weekends in like February. So it's the dead of winter. I've made the creative choice to wear heads. I don't know what that is It looks just like a beanie I don't think there's anything wrong with that

It's like a scarf It's like trying to be ski core Or something But it looks It's confusing because you're sort of like What's the costume What's her? What's her? What's the costume? Where does it end?

Yes and what's crazy is that What's her? What's me is worse Is crazier than the costume And the costume is crazy The costume's nuts But beautiful, thank you to the designers Shout out. Jack Sullivan's mom.

Shout out. But the, yes, there's a lot, there's a lot going on. I will say playing Madame Tarnier and being in Les Mizz, I'm not wearing it there,

but I wore a corset and it was the first time I connected with my boobs. Really? Yes. It was like, it was the first time I connected with my sexuality,

I put that corset on everyone treated me different. No. I was like, it changed my entire, like, Do you know those movies where it's like, we've been losers all of high school? And then we have one last shot to like blow them all away.

That was me. That was me. That was me. That was me. To being in LeMay's wearing a corset, everything changed. It was like I was a loser and then all of a sudden, by the way, I wasn't like cool. But then I had boobs and it changed like everything and different people started to talk to me. I also in my mind it was because I was good in the play.

But looking back, I think it was just that I wore a corset. it we're all doing some version of that we're all doing some version of that but that that was like a that was a big that was a big thing to get that role like did you feel like oh my god yes because i was ensemble every other year yeah i didn't do theater so i hear about these things and i'm like oh my god getting a role must have been like whoa yeah because it was like it was like every there was definitely like a hierarchy there were people that were expected to be roles there was the whole cast list, everyone running to it, all of that stuff. Yeah.

And was it a physical list that you would run to at your school? Okay, that fucking rocks. And it was like they would post it on like a Friday night. And so then people would drive back to school to see it and everyone would like run. But you didn't know what time he was going to post it. So it's like you're waiting to see when it gets posted. And then you come and you look at it and like and then everyone gets mad over the weekend and people text about it and like make weird posts. it was yeah they should do that they should create like a they should create a billboard in

LA that's like just all the casting directors send who got what and your team isn't allowed to call you to tell you you have to like go just look up at the billboard you have to drive to the billboard yeah you have to drive to the billboard and it's just like hundreds of actors being like fuck and one guy being like yeah and everyone hates that guy and then if you do get it you have to like maintain some sort of dignity and be like great I'm really happy and leave. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that'd actually be really good for the community. I think so. I think like let's stop doing all this in silence. Let's make the billboard.

No, yeah. Let's bring the group chats into real life. Yeah. Let's fight in front of the billboard. Let's fight. Let's have people fighting. Let's have people fighting in the streets over the rolls. Over the rolls. I think it would be really, really interesting actually, and I would like that. I think let's do it. Let's do it. So the show comes out in November. Yes. And tell me about the cast. Cast is fabulous. Love them all. We have Jordan Firstman, who you know, Odessa Zion, True Whitaker, Josh Hutcherson, Layton Meester. Crazy. We have some fun, I don't know how to call, there's, do you know how they're like guest star, series regular, we have guest star, I don't know what, which.

The terms mean something, but it's like, yeah, I know what you're saying. You have fun people popping in. Fun people popping in. Quinn Blackwell who's amazing Moses Ingram who's amazing Yeah the whole cast Like everyone Everyone I feel like

Really blew me away with Because when you're in the writer's room Oh my God I have to talk to you about writers rooms Because you've Let's get into it Let's get into it. I never done one before And then I'm running one disaster

I'm literally like There's so much thinking and, like, there's so much, like, talking about thinking. Yeah. And at the risk of sounding really stupid. But it's, like, you have to, like, say your thoughts out loud to other people. Usually, I'm keeping my thoughts in my head or I'm telling them to, like, one other person. All of a sudden, you have to defend your ideas to a room full of people.

It's truly, like, art by committee. It's, like, I'm giving my thought and everyone's sounding off on if it's good or not. It's horrifying. It's horrifying. Yeah. And, and, like, so anyways, you get so into. the headiness of it and Claire we talked about this a lot where it's like

when you're only in script you get to a point where you're like is this even real or any of these people even real like who is Maya okay like she's made up this is fake and then like you you bring in actors

and they like add their sauce to it and I feel like all of the actors who are on the show like every one them were would just bring something so funny and unique and real and honest to the characters or sometimes like also you write a joke that sounds like too much like a joke like this is something that I think you're really brilliant at which is like you can play anytime you're doing comedy there's such like truth to it and like there it's backed up by like this emotional honesty and like I think that that's a

something that's so special because anytime you have someone who's like doing a joke when they're like I'm doing the joke it feels like it feels like when someone's like trying to make you come and they're like you're coming up you're coming like do you know what I mean yeah they're doing too much yes too much and it feels like it just feels like weird and anyways you have this and I feel like the actors on the show have this where it's like they they just live in it and breathe in it and it allows it to play so much more and like anytime I would hear that like we did table reads for all the scripts

and then I would like hear them read it out loud and I would like breathe the side of relief because I would be like okay okay this sounds like real this sounds like people talking as opposed to like like I hate when you can like hear the people on the type being like ha ha ha this is funny like you know what I mean?

Yeah you don't you hate when and what we all do it sometimes. I do it in my own writing a lot where you hear it read back to you where you hear it on its feet and you go, oh, it feels like I was trying to be clever. Yes. And I don't even know if I was, but that's just how it's, it's reading in the room, you know? And I'm not even trying to be clever. I'm just trying to write a sentence.

But it's like, which is hard enough. I'm getting in a car crash every six months trying to write one sentence. But it's like, yeah. And then there is also the joy of like working with other writers and they all have like

better ideas than you and you're like thank god thank god you guys are here because like i think that that is the exciting part of the collective is like you get all these different ideas and perspectives and like stories and i think it's fun like even just like you and me going back and forth on our multiple car accidents for 10 minutes like it's like one story sparks another story and whatever and like that part was really fun for me getting to like hear everybody's different like just ideas and like things that have happened to them where it's like oh that's genius I never experienced that like I could never think of this idea on my own yeah you know I mean so many people are going to watch the show obviously because of you and because of HBO and the incredible cast

that you have put together like what do you want what do you want the show to do for people like I think you know shows do different things like I think the like when you watch girls or sex in the City or a lot of these shows that you're probably like, you know, I think that are in conversation with like when people are thinking about your show, they're going like, oh, my God, these incredible shows that have informed our culture, they do different things for different people. They make you want to live in New York or they make you want to be in a psychotic relationship or they make you want to like, whatever, whatever, like, what do you want the show to do for the people watching?

I want, well, one thing that I would love is like, I, when I was in college, like, I would watch with my roommates, like, HBO show Sunday nights and it was like we would make a huge thing of banana bread. and then just, like, watch all the shows back to back to back. Yeah. And I feel like there's something special about getting to, like, be a weekly show and sort of, like, create the anticipation and wait for something to drop. Like, I think I always, like, felt like I got to be a part of something when I was doing that.

And I love, like, having something to gossip about that's, like, not real, but feels real. Yeah. Like, I got into the summer I turned pretty because I was, like, I need my, my, what are my sister's texting about? I have to get into this and I'm so into it and now I'm like, oh my God, oh my God, Conrad, like, oh my God. But, like, I, you, it's fun to, like, get into something. So I think that.

And then the show itself, like, I feel like I want people to have fun and feel like they're a part of the world of the show and like get to go on adventures with the cast like I think like you know drama happens of course drama happens in life but I think like I recently have been like wanting to watch stuff that is like fun and like takes me to a place away from everything and like for sure and like escape and have fun um yeah yeah it's so cool that you guys are doing it weekly That's so exciting. I mean, I, I'm really craving and missing that.

The, like, event-tized, like, no, we all tune in and we wait a little bit and we have some delayed gratification for anything ever anymore. Like, I like that. I think it's fun and you get to, like, it makes it like a ritual. Like, like, I remember that was, like, our Sunday night ritual. It was, like, big little lies, girls, whatever. And, like, you, I love to when they're like, last week on da-da-da-da. These girls texted each other. Like, and then you're like, oh, my God.

I remember that and it brings you back. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, they're texting. Don't do that. Like, that, like, I think that's really, that's fun and special. Okay, how are you balancing all of like, you're doing so much, mind you, I would never show run a show in a million fucking years.

Like, when I heard you were doing that. It's a disaster. I was like, it's a huge mistake. No. No, I think it's, it really requires, Like, I'm so impressed by that genuinely. And when I heard you were doing that, I was like, thank God, because I trust her to do that. Number one.

And number two, like, I just am very, very impressed by that. And I don't know if people know how difficult and psychotic that is. And so you're balancing so many different things, though. I feel like you've got all these different, like, irons in the fire. And obviously, I imagine right now, like, show is the big thing. Yeah. Like, I am show and anything else other than show wait. I am show.

But, like, how are you balancing all of those things while you're doing this crazy, big, undertaking. I think I didn't know how psychotic it was when I did it. I was like, totally show run, like run the show, perfect. And then I was like, oh, it's, I feel like I'm running an insurance company sometimes where you're like,

I've got to do the paper paperwork. And I think like it's a lot, but also everyone who works on the show is so incredible. Emma Barry, my co-show runner, is like amazing. Max Silvestri, who you know.

Max is a genius. And he's one of our EPs, Lorraine Scaforio, who directed the pilot and two other episodes. Iita Rogers are one of our producer. Like, everyone is so amazing. And then Amy and Allie, who work at HBO are amazing. So I felt like, I never felt, like, judged that it was my first time doing it. And I was, like, able to be, I all constantly was like, so today, like, you get an email. being like today we're going on a scout for this

or we have a meeting, a mixed thing or a this thing or whatever, and I'm like, I don't know what that is. Obviously I will be there, but I don't know what it is. I will show up. That's what I can promise you. I can promise you I'll be there. Claire and I will be there, but we don't know what's happening.

And so literally there were times where I would like Google stuff and I would be like, what is this? Or what kind of they're like, we're looking to hire a da-da-da-da-da. Like this person for editing, blah, blah, blah. And the name of job that I don't know and I'd be like that sounds awesome

and then I get to the interview and I'm like so what would you say this job entails what do you do in your opinion yeah in your words what happens when you come to the office if you come at all do you work from home what is this? Let's walk through this I hire you then what

then what's next what's next what's next and frankly what should I be looking for what should i be asking you what's if you were to ask yourself a question that you want me to ask you what would it be oh okay fun idea fun idea say 10 things you do in a day quick go go go go go go go go go go go go go go um yes so it was it was a lot of that there was one day in the writer's room where because i also had only ever written i'd written pilots multiple pilots but I had pitched multiple shows that never got sold

and I like had submitted scripts for staffing. I never got staffed. And so my only experience really was like writing movies and writing bottoms. Just burping really quick. Just burping really quick. And so I know the like shape of what a movie is supposed to be. But it's different than a TV episode. So one day in front of all the writers

I was getting really like In my head about like the shape of what an episode should be And it's like all of our writers were lovely And no one would ever judge me But still you're in front of a group of people That you're supposed to be leading So I walk up to the board and I draw like a squiggly line And I'm like

So if a movie is like this And then a show is like And then I start drawing these lines And I turn around and I look at the room And everyone's like And I was like so, I was like, fuck, how do I, how do I back away from this? And I look to Max and Max is like, you, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, no. And I was like, then none of this matters.

And I literally like, I literally like erase it as if it's like an exercise. I'm like, throw it away. We don't need this. Guys, screw Formula One. We're just, let's just Blue Sky, a word I learned two days ago.

Yeah. Like, it was like, it was... It's house numbers. It's bad pitch. It's... It's throw anything out there. We don't even need the board. Burn it. Like, it was so...

It was like, I so in that moment was like, I don't know what I'm doing. And it was so scary. Max in the corner being like, no. No, no. There would be so many moments. Max is amazing. and so was Emma where I was like

they had so much more experience than me but they never made me feel like I was stupid or like my ideas because I still knew like what I wanted the show to be about and I knew I had all these ideas for the season but like I didn't always know

how to like express them and I feel like there were so many times during the room where I would like start to say something and then I would be like and trailing off and Max would be like exactly and so What Rachel's kind of said, the save, I was like, whoo, texting him under the table, like,

thanks, girl, needed that. But it was, yeah, it was, it was definitely like a learning curve. And then the other thing that I feel like the process of show running is I would, I would learn a new word. And I couldn't stop saying it. Oh, of course. You learn a new word, you go, oh, I'm going to run that, I'm going to beat that into the dirt. Yeah. I'm going to, like, when I learned the word vestigil.

vestigil. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go. When they're like, that's vestigil from the last draft, let's pull it. Now I'm like, in my life, I'm like, that shirt's vestigil. That's from 2018. Let's pull that shirt. It's a little vestigil. No, there's something addicting. There's a very specific language in way that people talk about making TV.

Yes. That when I wrote for Big Mouth, like my first writing job, the whole first season really was me and Max was there and he's so, has such a brilliant mind for TV. The whole first season was me just being like, someone would be like, oh, this dialogue feels sweaty. and I'd be like, it does.

It does feel sweaty. The dialogue's super sweaty. It's sweating all over us. Like learning the terminology of it. And then season two, like having younger writers come in and being like, oh, now they're learning the way we talk about this.

It's a lot of fun. It feels like I have a secret. I know. I'm like in a club. Yeah. Yeah, you're like, yeah, the different terms, that was really fun learning that.

The other thing is I feel like I pulled different advice from like friends who had written on show. Like, I guess I had the experience of when I.O. and I wrote our Comedy Central thing, she had already been a writer's assistant. And I remember saying something to her that was like, it feels like we just read, we get notes and then we write it different. And then we just go back to the old way.

And she was like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. She's like, that's the whole process. I was like, okay, cool, just checking, making sure. But like texting different people who had done different things. Same with directing because I directed for the first time. my director, one of the episodes, and I was, like, the whole time we were shooting, because I directed the finale, I was, like, stealing phrases from the other directors.

Yeah. Like, Bill Benz would sometimes say, like, just do, like, the stupid version, which is, like, the version where it's, like, so obvious what you're playing. And then, like, what else did he say? Like, a little bit of chuffa? Yeah. He's like, let's just get a little more chuffa off the top. I'm like, I love that.

A little chuffa. Just a little extra before we get in. We're going to cut the chaffa, but we need it just in case. Like, little terms like that or different ways people would do stuff. Like, Loreen, like, I think, like, sometimes she would come over and, like, say something to really quiet. Like, why don't you try to do that? And I was like, oh, girl, I'm going to take that. That's mine now.

That's mine now. Like, you try little things. And I feel like, like, my favorite. part of the show running process as a whole is you get to work with so many like amazing people and learn from everyone. And it's like everyone wants the same thing, which is they want to make something great. That was the other thing is I didn't feel like there was a single person who worked on the show who wasn't like, I'm giving my all. I'm bringing my best energy and like I want this to be good. So you're like, we're all on the same side. And even if we like disagree about

how something should be like if I have to defend my argument or my point of view to someone then I have to like be better at expressing my idea which in turn makes me like understand more why I think it should be that way

and sometimes in the process of explaining my point of view I'm like I'm wrong like you know what I mean sometimes you're like well it has to be this way because actually so what you said as it turns out is interesting yeah yeah yeah

interrogating your point of view is like such a beautiful part of collaboration to be like oh I was I was dead certain that I was right about this and then you see someone else talk about it and you're like actually

I'm wrong I'm willing to give on that I'm willing to give on that and I'm like I'm totally willing to give if you have a better idea done I'd rather have a better idea than whenever I thought of when I was crashing my car this morning

Rachel I have a question for you. Okay. You know we ask everyone on the show. What's so true to you? Okay. What's so true to me is that like I think everybody needs a toxic in a fun way

not like you know, but everyone needs like a toxic relationship where they get dragged through the dirt. Yeah. Or if you don't have that maybe like a really bad friendship to shape your personality.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah, it's necessary. You need it. It's crucial. You have to go through hell. Yeah. You have to go through hell with somebody.

Yeah. I feel like most people do have one of those. You have to. And then it's like where, because anyone who's like, I learned healthy boundaries on my own, it's like you think that. Yeah. But then you even, let's say you have like the perfect childhood. Everyone's kind to you and you learn like healthy boundaries. It's like you don't actually know healthy boundaries because they haven't been tested yet.

By somebody truly. Yeah. Get a crazy person in there. Because there's crazy people out there. So you need to, you need to experience a crazy person. We have to means test your wellness. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And then the boundaries really, they lock in. And you need, I think it needs to be like tested against something.

Also, being with a crazy person in any kind of relationship. It's awesome. It's genuinely, it's kind of awesome. Creative, romantic, platonic, it doesn't matter. Sometimes a crazy person inches your own. life and you're like, I like how insane you are. This feels good. This feels good.

Yeah, it's nice. And so those boundaries do start to dissolve a little bit because you're like, I know we're being crazy, but it's so fun. But it's kind of fun. Yeah. And then after you do it, then after the fun part goes away, it gets really bad. Yeah. And then you go, okay, this is what I have my boundaries for.

And then you can, and then after this, I feel like is my journey, as I was like, no boundaries at all. And then I got to this area where I was like, it's all boundaries. And that walls are break and cement. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, boom, boom, boom, boom, don't come in here. It's like all these little rules that I came up with. I have so many little rules.

I live by little rules that are like, if I don't have my bum breath and I can't move, and then if I don't have five minutes alone and I have to meditate and I da-da-da-da-da. And I can't see someone on week nights, like whatever, all these things. And those are awesome too. Yeah. But then once you really feel good in your rules, then you can sort of peel back on rules and go,

this Wednesday, I'm going out to dinner. Yeah. Like, do you know what I mean? Or, like, I'm going to have milk and I plan. I'm having milk. Hello. I know it hurts my tummy. I'm doing it anyway.

I'm having milk tonight. I truly had a milk night last week. Milk night. I was like, I was like, I'm having full dairy, Ben and Jerry's, and I will feel bad in the morning. It doesn't matter because you know, this is the other thing that's great. It's like when you're younger, like, something happens and you're like, wait, why is this happening? Why does my stomach hurt? Why do I feel crazy out of control?

Why am I, like, completely, like, unable to stop myself from whatever, being in this thing with this person, whatever. You don't know what's going on. Then you learn. Then you know, and you go, I don't want to do it. But then after time, you go, now that I know, I can do it a little. Yeah. Because I know I'm going to, my stomach's going to hurt tomorrow. That's okay.

I'll plan. I'm going to, exactly, exactly. It's like you plan milk night for when you don't have something early in the next morning. You're like, I can wake up and feel a little bad. And then you have shit morning. You have shit morning. It's milk and I into shit morning. Puppy, booby Monday.

No, but you're actually saying something so real, which is like you do just, you go, okay, I figured things out. I made my rules. I lived really strictly about this that or the other, this relationship or this food or this whatever. And then once you know the consequences and you fully reckoned with them, then you're like, I can break the rules. I'll just plan on how I break them. I plan on how I break them. Yeah. Yeah.

Really, really good. Yeah. The other thing, this part kind of sucks is like. Like, do you know, like when you're going through like a hard time? Never happened to me. Really? I've never had a hard time. Isn't that crazy?

Totally. Yes, I know when you're going through a hard time. And before, I would only realize that it was a hard time after. I would be like, wait, that was a really hard time. Now I realize that when I'm in it, I'm like, shit. And you're sort of like, you know that it'll be over at a certain point. So you can't even do the drama. Like, to me it used to be like if I was going through.

through a breakup or something, I would be like, it's over, it's oh, like, you know what I mean? And I would just, like, throw myself into it. And now you're like, this will pass. Yeah. I'll be okay. A couple nights with the girls. It'll be fine. And you're like, I kind of miss the not knowing of, like, what's going on.

This is the, I think about this all the time when I think about, like, the kids in my life. Like, my little cousins and stuff that I'm like, I love you so much and I want you, I want to give you lessons as quickly as I can so that your path in life will be easier. Yeah. But the number one thing I can't give you that makes, like, life so much easier is just data that you have been through things and you've seen yourself you've had a hard time and then you've had an easier time and then it's gotten hard again and you look back and go like oh this is how I got through that hard time you create your steps you create your processes

you surround yourself with certain types of people yeah I can't give you data you will just have to live through some really uncomfortable moments yeah to get to the place you're talking about of like yeah I can't really do the drama because I know yeah this yeah this week sucks yeah and next week it won't and that's just what it is and that's just what it is and and it doesn't matter if you tell them there were so many things my mom told me that I was like okay bitch and then literally years later I was like she was right nailed she was right she literally took me like sorry back to the milk but my mom was like you're allergic to milk I took you to a doctor I was like you're a liar I'm having milk I'm having milk every night is milk and then I was like oh okay and then I discovered

all these other milks that are delicious but like it's just like a rule where it's or even like being in a bad relationship your friends or your mom or whatever completely be like, you shouldn't do this. And you go, okay, I'm going to do it for two more years. And then never again. But it's like those types of things, it's like you can tell them, but they're going to learn it on their own. Yeah, they need their own data.

They need their own data. Everybody has to get their own data. And you'll figure it out. You'll figure out what you are good and bad at when things go good and bad. Totally. Yeah. Rachel, we have a segment for you. This one has nothing to do with high school theater.

Okay. Am I drinking too much water? No, not enough. Not enough milk, though. I feel like I'm drinking so much. No, it's really, really important. You're actually setting a great example for everyone watching. This is a segment we play with everyone, Rachel.

True or false. I'm going to read you 15 statements. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can if you think what I just said is true or false. If you get 10 or more correct, Rachel, we're going to give you $50 U.S. dollars. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, are you ready? Okay, okay. Okay.

A goldfish's memory span is only three seconds. True. False. It can be several months. Carrots improve your vision. True. True. Basketball was invented by a Canadian.

Canadian. True. True. The first email was sent in 1971. True. True. There are no active six flags theme parks in the United States. False. False. Simsbury, Connecticut's sister city is Whitman, Germany. True. True. True. True. Sutton Foster was born in Australia to American parents. Ah, true. False. George. Fuck. 30 Rock was nominated for 56 Emmys. True. False. 114. Chimpanzees can't swim.

I've seen them walking around in the water. True. True. Okay. BlackBerry's last phone was released in 2018. Blackberry the phone BlackBerry's last phone was released in 2018. False. True. There are 108 cards There are 108 cards in a standard deck of Uno cards. I hate games. They stress me on so much. Um, true.

True. New. New NYU's motto is look to the future. True? False. To persevere and to excel. Jingle Bells was originally written for Thanksgiving. True. True. The Tricks. The Tricks rabbit's real name is Arnold. True. False. He has.

no real name. 99% of our solar system's mass is the sun. False. True. How'd she do? Oh, it's so close. It was so close. Damn, I'm sorry.

If you need 50 bucks, though, like, call me, girl. You know I've got you. I've always got you. I will always hold you down like that. Okay, thank you. You will. You will. I really will.

I remember you treated me for dinner our first night in Toronto. Do you remember that? Pasta. Pasta. It was a delicious meal, and it was, like, so beautiful. It really was. It was such a funny, like, our little life in Toronto was like Rachel and I are hanging out every day for a little bit.

It was perfect. It was cute. We went and bought a sweater. You got like a big Canadian flag sweater. Do you remember that? I do. It was cutey. And we like went out too.

Yeah. We did. We were fun back then. We were fun back then. No, we did was work. The grandma and grandpa. Talking about data and milk. Talking about the memory of a goldfish.

Okay. So the show's coming out. Very, very excited about that. It comes out in November. Are you going to get to like go on a vacation? Are you going to go away for a little bit? What are you going to do when you get free time again? I am going to hopefully move

I need to move A big stressful thing A big stressful thing I need to move I need to repair my relationships With my loved ones You know how it's like you go away And you give no one anytime

Apology to her Yes and then sorry One other thing Claire and I were talking about Was we were like you make promises The whole time You make promises during the shoot Which is like you're like When we rap

I'm gonna be at the club Yeah I'm out. I'm out. Dinner, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Let's go on a weekend trip. I think we should all go to Cape Cod. It's like what? It's like promises after promises.

By the way, it's like no one's even holding me to them, but I've like made them up in my head. Yeah. And so I am looking forward to doing, to spending time with my loved ones again and going to the club with them, as I've said. I'll be making good on promises. I'll be making good on promises.

That's my big plan. I truly relate to that so much. I was so, when I was on tour in the spring, I was like this, I mean, they're already laughing because truly you should have seen all of tour, you know, getting up, doing show until midnight, getting up at 4 a.m. for a flight to a new city like that. I had the whole tour I was like, this summer, you're not going to fucking hear from me. I'm going to Europe. I'm not, no one's going to. Bye. Bye.

I worked every hour of the summer. Every day. And it was just like. The curtains blocking out the light. In here. It's 4 a.m. You're like, good morning. Hey, what's up y'all?

I'm, yeah, I worked every. Yeah, I worked every fucking minute of the summer and I'm just laughing at my old self that was making these promises. I know. You'll be lucky if you even get a text back for me this summer. No, I was on the phone every hour.

Every hour. Yeah. You're like completely reachable. Yeah, totally. Yep. If I'm anything, it's reachable. I am reachable. Unfortunately, I am reachable.

Yeah. You can get a hold of me. Yeah. I have my phone on Do Not Disturb. Everyone in my life just calls through it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Everyone just calls twice.

They're like, I had to call twice again. I'm like, I know. I know. I was trying. I was trying to set a boundary. Yeah, no, no one respects it. And it's like... They're laughing because they don't.

They're like, oh, my God. Seriously, go, Caleb. We need to schedule tomorrow. Pick up, for real. I just love you, Rachel. I'm so excited about the show. I'm so excited about the show. I'm so happy that we got to talk.

This is the other thing, last thing. To hang out with your friends, you have to schedule like a podcast or a work. It's really embarrassing. Or a work. You have to schedule a podcast or a work. Or a work. Yeah.

And I'm so glad. you don't count doing this podcast as a work. This is not a work. It's a different thing. This is a different thing. Dude, thanks for being on. Thank you for having me. We did it with Rachel. Yeah. That was a hate gum podcast.

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