So True with Caleb Hearon - Sabrina Brier Believes in Magic

Episode Date: June 27, 2024

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Being anti-war is so easy that even children can grasp it. I think is what we're... Yes, and that's the point. Is I think what we're coming to. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I think that was definitely where I was at with it. Wait, how did we even get here? We were talking about me being anti-war as a child.

We're talking about the Iraq war. What do you think of me? What do I think? Do you What do I think of you? No, because I know exactly what I think of you. What do you think of me? Say a negative and a positive. I can't say a single negative. Sometimes there are those people in life

where you're so obsessed with them that I would belittle myself to the worst degree to get you to like me or laugh at me. My reverence for you is probably to a point of lacking in health. So I can't say anything negative. This is really sweet. It's funny because I think if I asked 90% of our guests that question, they would immediately be like, they would have a negative.

You know what I mean? Like they would, they would. Well, guess what? This isn't going to be that kind of show. This isn't going to be that episode. This episode is going to be sweet,

wholesome. Yes. Kind of nice vibes. Yes. Do you think you, I think a lot of times you play characters that have a little bit of like, um, like a,

a pettiness or like a secret, like, um, like there's like talking behind the back going on with your characters. There's like a character who doesn't, not very self-aware do you think that that's you or is this all is there any part of it that's true i think yes well i don't know what you're talking about i'm a perfect person and any negative trait any negative trait has is it's something that i've completely had to method fabricate put that hat on try to access that because i've never done

anything wrong that's the reason I ask is because I view you, we're newish friends in the grand scheme of the world. In the grand scheme of the world, absolutely. So I view you as a very, I view you as a very positive, self-aware, kind person.

And so I feel like you're putting on for the character. But is there a small part that's true? That's so nice. Not as flirting, by the way. Wait. Okay. Hold on, what is this? We'll pin that.

What is this? Remember in my show, you were like, we fucked way. Wait. Okay. Hold on. What is this? We'll pin that. What is this? Well, remember in my show, you were like, we fucked, but it's fine. I love every green room that I go to. My rider is just like, I want Diet Coke in the fridge. Diet Coke in cold water is my only rider. But you don't have a Diet Coke right now. At this moment, I do have a regular Coke, but that's because sometimes you have to be bad.

Well, I was going to say, did someone get like a stapler thrown at them? No, not a stapler, but someone will definitely lose their job today yeah someone's out here no i like to have a little a little a little real cook every once around as a cheat but like they're paying us they're paying us nothing um but every every green room they will put in there uh even though i have no food on there they'll put in there like veggie chips and like hummus and i I'm like, well, definitely just look up my internet presence. Like just look up like one of my old tweets and you'll see he's not like a veggie chips and hummus guy.

That is like the fact that that is kind of the staple snack for a lot of spaces doesn't go with my vibe. No. So I get that. Put pork belly in there. Put a tray of pork belly. Put a sub. A sub would be hot chicken nuggets are

always gonna hit chicken okay i gotta say my nephew is three thank you and you forget like how great it is to just always have frozen chicken nuggets in the house yes we don't talk about that enough what is your sauce if you're if you're picking up a nugget, what are you hoping to Dunkin? Oh, ketchup. Really? Cause I kind of like,

well, cause when I eat chicken nuggets, I'm, I'm, I'm reverting back into being three. Yeah. Which is like me a lot of the time. You're going back to that place.

Yeah. You're going back to that space. And I am going to like, I'm a plain Jane with food a lot of the time. So like, I'm going to like, if you're giving me a very plain chicken nugget, AKA, I'm like stealing it from Luke's plate. Like I want that to go and catch up.

But like, if you're giving me a different kind of thing, like a wing situation, I want that to go in Buffalo sauce. Yeah. What about you? That was really huge when you brought up Buffalo sauce. Thank you. Okay. Let's, let's get into that.

Cause I'm a Buffalo girly. I'm a Buffalo girly too. And I'm also a, like a, some kind of, any kind of like spicy mustard I love. Yes. Like a Mardi Gras mustard from Popeyes or a hot mustard from McDonald's. Well, chicken nuggets and a hot mustard, that's a beautiful relationship. My mouth, my mouth watering. My mouth, actually, my mouth is watering right now.

I do love a spicy mustard. I also will go with like, I only want a barbecue if it's going to be like a thick, sweet barbecue. Like a barbecue sauce needs to be sweet to me. Well, I'm like afraid to tell you that I'm not a barbecue sauce girl. Okay, because like I feel like the Southerns, right? Like that's a thing. Yeah, the Southerns. The Southerns stuff.

Really hits like a slur, doesn't it? I just feel like the Southerns. I don't know what it is. It's like that sweetness. It's just not like the southerns with kind of like I don't know what the southerns I don't know what it is it's just like that sweetness it's just not like the buffalo sauce situation that is what my palate

is going that yeah my palate is really like it goes that like Buffalo

yeah you're from Connecticut yeah and you went to Smith right I went to Smith College and you studied theater I studied theater which is one of the most

interesting things you can do with your college education. Did you love it or did you hate it? I loved it. I mean, I've always been in the theater growing up. I was always taking theater classes. And my mom is a playwright. So always going to the theater. So it was very, and you know, I was a drama kid, drama club kid.

So were you? No. Really? Oh, right. Because you were like, well, at your show, you were doing a hilarious impression of yourself, which was just absolute,

like I was dying, but you, I'm like, I don't want me to give Caleb's material away because you have to go see his tour if you want to see it. If you want to see the material, you got to buy a ticket.

But I was a student council kid but but you yes and I so that track that you were more because like you were too smart

you're like I actually can do other things I don't need to do theater in high school for me I was like this is all I got I I want to thank you

for placing me not being in high school theater on intelligence but we can actually go ahead and put it in its correct bucket which is cowardice that's where that belongs okay I'm gonna really want to thank you for placing me not being in high school theater on intelligence, but we can actually go ahead and put it in its correct bucket, which is cowardice. That's where that belongs. Okay.

I'm going to really want to unpack that and get into that. Well, I'm happy to. Should we do that now? Yeah. I didn't want to be outed. I thought that that was too gay. Right. I was like, all the theater guys were gay vibes, except for like the one jock who would

always be like, we need a straight guy, please. And then the theater teacher would go beg him. Right. Like you felt like it was a little bit of kind of like um it was a little bit of like a spotlight on yourself it was like hey everyone i'm joining theater aka aka i'd love to dick or something so yeah and i just also was like i'm fine being in the spotlight in very controlled situations in high school but i was like i definitely don't need to be like playing with emotion and stuff i definitely don't need to be like i have a character who's going through a struggle and then play that out.

You know, I was just like, let's just, I never did theater. Did you do in college? No. I started doing improv in college, which is obviously far more embarrassing.

I also started doing improv in college. Yeah. Humiliating. For me. It doesn't have to be your truth. Yeah. Humiliating. Well,

it's humiliating to talk about, especially because if we're being honest, I thought it was absolutely sick. And I thought... No, that's the humiliating part is I was in love with it. That's the humiliating part. It changed my life. No, me too.

It changed my life. That's the humiliating part is I was like, this is... We're creating something never seen before. Yeah. And never seen again. Can you even wrap your head around that? No, like can you even wrap your head around no no can you wrap your head around like rehearsal means like us in this space like making magic

happen that no one else has witnessed and then the rehearsal ends it goes into the abyss and it's like you wish you were there yeah i and i also yeah so i i i was a part of it was called smith improv comedy org of smith sickos s-i-k-o-s shout out queens and i um so it was all you know women plus it was definitely a very different kind of situation than like you know or then like if i had gone to a more traditional co-ed school i don't even think i would have gone like i think i was like the fear thing you were talking about. I think that would have been my thing for comedy in college. If I was with like the cis men. Yeah. You know what I mean?

With the boys. Yeah. With the boys. I think the boys, a lot of those teams would have benefited from having you around. Thank you so much. You would have been a, you would have been a credit to a state school.

Thank you so much. But you took your time. But I was, I was rusty. You know what I mean? I wasn't like, I don't know. I wasn't,

I mean, I think I was like, I was always confident on a stage I mean? I wasn't like, I don't know. I wasn't, I mean, I think I was like, I was always confident on a stage, but I think at the beginning, I had no idea what comedy was in that kind of a way. Like as an institution and as like, I would have friends. I remember I had this good friend,

Emma, who was like, you know, she did it in high school and she knew the who's who and listened to all the podcasts and knew about all the up and coming da da da. And I didn't even, it wasn't even really a world I understood so much and so I think college was the beginning of that but I I felt that I was more of just kind of like I was just trying to perform like just as

a theater girl which I think in a funny way I'm like let's let's like really go full circle here and get really deep um I think this is now what I'm about to say is really not that deep so you're like you're like let's plunge in let's I liked theater exactly yeah well I think just as I was saying that loud the kind of like theater background versus the comedy background and when you kind of like realize there's like same same but diff and I think that's like my life now too, where I loving the comedy scene. I love to be able to meet people and I'm such a fan of it. And I'm, and I also know that what I'm doing is maybe not always going to necessarily

exist right in, in the parameters of the comedy space right now, if that makes sense. What do you mean by that? Say more. I mean, I guess what I'm trying to say is like emotionally, sometimes I feel out of,

sometimes I feel out of place in a comedy club or like in a comedy. In a comedy club? Like in a scenario comedy. Yeah, honey. Like a comedy da da da. Because I. We are out of place in comedy clubs. Well, we are.

Yeah. Right. Well, but I meant more of like just because I'm, you know, more theater girl, more of these other things. And sometimes I'm like, am I lying? Like, am I lying about what I am by being here no so in that kind of way not in like a when you go to like one of those scary clubs in Manhattan and everyone says crazy have you ever like gone to a comedy cellar or something like that and like they say the r word yeah

one time when I was yeah they're saying hey and guess what they're saying other words as well one time I was like um I was like at the very beginning of my process of okay I'm doing the TikTok thing but I really want to go back to live famously did it in college improv and I was like I really want to get back into that and get more comfortable I did a little stand-up in in college I was like let me get more comfortable with this and like go to open mics but then I was like let me try to go to some open mics where no one like I don't have friends there so I didn't go to the Brooklyn ones at first I like one time I just was like did a whole thing of trying them out in Greenwich Village and not I didn't even

perform just to like sleuth them out and be like do I want to do one of these and the things they were saying at like four o'clock on a Friday yeah yeah yeah I was like I was as if you had entered like 2010 like you like like a you know it was really great so yes I understand point being that like yeah we don't belong in those spaces no no my first open mics I had an internship in college in New York I was going to college in Missouri and I was living in New York for the summer and I had gone to open mics in Missouri but they were like Missouri open mics right barely and I went to New York and I was like this summer I am going to force myself I'm so scared but I'm gonna force myself to go to open mics and I later learned that that's not

even part of my process but at the time I was like this is what you do right and I went to an open mic at I went to a bunch of them I went to like ones at the clubs in Manhattan and then I went to an open mic at um freaking creaking cave in Long Island yeah yeah and in our Queens but it I went up and did some material that was like pretty bad I'm ultimately 20 years old and doing comedy for the first time yes and some of it was about being gay which i was like newly out to everybody and this comic went up after me this dude i don't i wish i remembered his name because i'm sure he's not doing well i would love to check in on him he went up after me after me and did like a five minute into his entire open mic slot like homophobic material about me about my set about

being gay and i was like newly out and newly doing comedy and also newly in new york city and i wish to god i could remember that guy because i would love do you think if you saw his face no i literally couldn't even look at him i heard it as i was sitting down you were so like blacked out i was just not confident like now i would fuck that guy up like i would ruin your life you're like I'd fuck him up and I'd fuck him I'd sleep with him yeah now that would be my husband and now as soon as he said that homophobic thing to me I'd be like I'd be like where's the ring you're my husband and you have to be the girl first of all sorry that's a punishment you have to be the girl that's horrific yeah it was crazy second of all

it sounds to kind of like he was stealing your set yeah for sure he gets up there he was like oh i have nothing to say in that set was good so let me just take his set and kind of tell it through a kind of like a homophobic lens yeah sort of reimagining yeah a retelling of caleb's set but with a twist it was absolutely crazy no that's so traumatic and also so crazy to hear you say the words like when i was so scared of comedy because i and of course like i understand that everyone has that journey but it's just crazy to imagine because you're so comfortable on a stage and i know that's what comes with practice but you're like so comfortable on a stage i think i wasn't thank you i really am i feel i feel probably so comfortable on a stage. I think I wasn't. Thank you. I really am. I feel, I feel probably most comfortable on stage.

Yeah. But I, I think, uh, probably I didn't feel that way until I started doing comedy, uh, rarely, but in some form when I was like 18 or 19.

And I think I probably didn't feel truly comfortable on stage, not scared of shows, knew even if I didn't do well that I wasn't bad at it. Yes. I think that was probably like two years ago, three years ago. I mean, it's very recent. And I think it's just something you have to develop over time. And also like selling out my shows and stuff and developing my material

and just getting better helps. But like, yeah, that took a really long fucking time. But yeah, it was definitely at the beginning. I was terrified. No, it's – and then when did – I'm like, I'm interviewing you. When did you start – Yeah, this is actually by me. This when did um you start this is yeah and this is also we're having an intimate conversation um when did you start acting acting uh i was i

wanted to act but i just felt like i didn't know how to get into it and in college even i wanted to try starting acting a lot of my friends were acting majors chancer produces the show was in the acting program and i college friends yeah well we're college classmates yeah classmates okay I wouldn't say college friends acquaintances I would say college classmates yeah yeah yeah yeah Chance mentored me um no but I wanted to be acting but I just was like I don't want to get a degree Chance earplugs I don't want to get a degree this useless in case this doesn't all work out yeah because I'm my family is too poor I have no safety net so I was like I gotta get something practical but I was very jealous of my friends who were doing acting and like theater I feel like the

jealousy and that like inner voice is always the thing telling you what you really want to do I was so jealous of people who were making content yeah that actually I was done to the content that actually brings it back just to like circle back to one of your first questions where you asked me like what of those like negative things I possess so there I said it I was jealous you have jealousy I have jealousy I definitely um I think like the older like the older I get the less that's a thing just because it's like you just get tired and it's like too much effort and it's also a privilege of succeeding, by the way, babe. When you start to get what you want, when you start to have some things you're proud of.

I stop being jealous. Not necessarily. Not everyone does. God knows. But I think there's a version of healthily succeeding where you can go, what am I worried about? I have what I want. Totally. Things are going fine.

Totally. And I think, so basically what you're kind of saying is it's that I have success. It's not that I'm just like such an evolved sort of like person. It's not that I like, I'm just so, you know what I mean? Like I'm able to look at life and just rise above it. It's actually, you're like, no, it's because you have brand deals. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

More water came out of that bottle than I ever could have imagined. And you were so gracefully ignoring it. I thought it was like a drop I looked down literally I'm covered in water the show must go on

people that aren't watching on YouTube I was just drenched in water in a way get over to the YouTube right now and subscribe for God's sakes but I was just

covered in water no I think many things can be true I ignored it I think you did you were a really big person in that moment

well because what was I gonna do like look how dumb Caleb looks like he just Sabrina many people would have no i that's like that's like my i have like the opposite reaction to things like that i panic and i'm like what can i do to right this wrong like it's my fault that the water spilled all over caleb well i will say you had a role i did have a role but i think many things are true.

I think you are an evolved and developed person and a mature person. Thank you so much. I think you also are doing quite well for yourself. Thank you. And no one could deny,

even your haters. And they're here. I invited them. Sabrina's haters, come on out! I love that. No, but no one, yeah, I think it's many things at once.

I think that I definitely, you know, I have wanted these things that we're doing my whole life. I literally remember being like three. Remember back to the three thing. Come on. I remember being three and I really have just such a core vivid memory of being like, I want to be an actress so badly, but like I can't read. So I won't be able to like read the lines and like memorize a script

and then I remember like having the thought of like oh Sabrina you probably like will learn eventually you will get reading you will get it you will get reading but point being I've always wanted all these things it's it's always been like a desperation no want of like I must perform and rise and have the things I can have so that I can perform more and more and I think that that kind of energy it's not like it like just started for me being in the industry and being an adult so there's probably a little fatigue and also I think that there's a little bit of I don't want to just you know get great like awesome opportunities that I've been so blessed to have and not kind of like internalize the gratitude for it because I and I think especially being a Hollywood assistant how I started out seeing people who um had so many

of those things that I wanted so badly and like and, and I remember I used to think like, if I just had that, I would be so happy. Like, you know, and of course that's never true. That's not what, how happiness works. But I do feel like I just like still feel like that.

Sometimes still feel like that assistant still feel like that, you know, young girl who just wanted, which would die if she knew the thing, some of the things I have now. So I just try to like, I just think it's like, if you don't have gratitude you actually go insane totally it will totally rot your brain it will rot your brain and then you're and then how can you be a good person if you're

sitting around thinking about like well I have this but I wish it was this and I wish it was that and then you like lose sight of the things that most people don't have so yeah it's difficult because I think desire is a brain illness in a way but you also need it like it's it's healthy to desire things and to want stuff but at a certain point I think if desire is your only lens for the world the only way you can view anything going on in your life is through the lens of desiring what you don't have which is what happens to a lot of people in this business then you're gonna be a really unhappy and like kind of unpleasant person totally and I think I also learned you know especially like that as an assistant like

that desire just because it's not like it goes like oh you rise you rise and then the desire goes away it's like like you say it's the thing that keeps you going your entire career and it doesn't have to be a negative thing too right I think i used to think of it so much as like i like i think i used to have such a victim-y kind of thing in my head when i was like angsty teen and after that of kind of like i want this will i ever get it oh and then you start to get things and you're like you're fine bitch like yeah yeah there's a lot going on in the world try to take it one step at a time what are you okay so backing up backing up i know like let's get funny again you and i are both not law you and i are both prone to tangents and i don't even know yeah i started acting to answer your question i started acting in chicago i got a couple roles

i got a role on a showtime show called work in progress with abby mcadney which is how i met lily wachowski who's directing my upcoming movie which we can't wait for we can't wait um and were you also obviously you were you were doing the comedy Chicago scene then yeah I was at the time okay a lot of improv and characters and stuff like that but how did you you just had a role on Abed Elmentary was that your first acting gig that was my um sec it was my second SAG thing because I I did um I was a writer's assistant on this really awesome project that actually came out during the strike, but it was like an independent self-produced thing that Soderbergh created.

And I was a writer's assistant on that and I had a role in that. So it's a very small role. So that was kind of my first like I'm walking into a set in a real way and being directed by Steven Soderbergh, which was intimidating and awesome and really fun and so that was kind of my first thing and then Abbott was my first like tv debut comedy debut like full cast full television show because the other thing was a mini series mini web series moment and it was like yeah the time of my life and And it was just, it felt obviously full circle. I look up to Quinta so much. She's doing, you know, she's forging her own path, has forged her own path. A lot of the

things about that path are what I want. I want to have my own TV show and create it and show run like she does and lead a team like she does. So it was just, it honestly was crazy because it was like, I'm a fan. I also am so happy to be doing this as an actor i'm also so happy to be here like as a shadow and as like a person to just watch everything that's going on and try to learn and and also like the vibes are immaculate and they aren't always on sets and on shows so it just felt like crazy lucky yeah what do you want i ask people on this show all the time what do you want what is the what do you like if you had a yes of all the things you can pick you can do so many things what do you want I want to be a showrunner really yes oh my god that's so brave of you oh my god you

couldn't pay me a billion dollars really oh my god never would you ever do you think you would enjoy being in a room and like just I mean have you been in a room I've been in a couple rooms and have you enjoyed it I have maybe I shouldn't say it. No, we can talk about it. Cause like, do you enjoy like the, you know,

sitting among a bunch of other people and shouting things out thing? You know what I mean? I absolutely love being with other writers and pitching ideas to the extent that that's what a room is. I love that part of it. You love the talking part,

but not the part where you have to like go back to like your boring office and like write the things and like da da da. I actually like that part too I think the thing you're like I'm actually very studious so I actually know actually no actually Sabrina cut that cut cut no I don't what I don't like is the logistical elements of it I don't like working a job for six full months I don't like showing up every day and having a set time schedule like a factory sort of clock in situation yes those parts of a writer's room I'm like not for you that's just not the way i prefer to work but that's how writer's

rooms work they convene at a start time and end at an end time that is not how i feel most creative i feel most creative having like a slow morning and then writing in really intense bursts and then like i i need free time to feel at my most creative. Obviously, a writer's room has no ability or incentive to prioritize one individual low-level staff writer's creative process. Right. So that's not how it works, you know? But I, yeah, I enjoyed it a lot. I would like to be in other rooms.

I would love, I will always be writing on my own projects. But I think the path of just like purely climbing the ladders in the writing world and in living my life is uh not the thing it's not what i thought it would be and it's way cooler than i thought it would be in some ways and way just like the jobs i had before this in some ways and i think it's just not the thing i want to do only and also maybe maybe there's a part of you too that's like there there's such a motivation in writing to perform you know like writing your the screenplay you wrote with lily you know for lily to direct i need to be performing and then you're like in your head you're going okay like i know i'm at a desk right now but eventually this script is gonna bring me somewhere physically yeah someday i'm

gonna get to say this and that that yeah that is definitely what it is for me and i which maybe also means yeah maybe also means like you're I think that what that often means is like that you're a performer first do you think that you're a performer first because I I couldn't I could not like just write what's up guys this video is brought to you by better help they are sponsoring this video of so true podcast thank you better help we love you guys hey this is not a joke to me. This is serious business. We're talking about mental health. And you guys know me. I've been rated and voted one of the most mentally strong and healthy, well people alive. The Atlantic has said that about me, People Magazine, IMDB Pro. People have said that about me. So I want to help you guys get to that same place. BetterHelp connects you with a licensed therapist who is trained to listen and give you

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Yeah. But those are such performer-y things, and I think, I just think it's interesting how every, I think a lot of people can, like, like, I love to write, I, you know, but I love to write to make something. Yeah. You know, I love to write, and I also, like, love to write, but I'm not so, particular and like oh I need to

express my entire full self into the script where if I'm working on something with someone else I'm like can you like run away with that scene come back all like to my way and so I think that's part of why I want to be a showrunner too because I think that's a huge part of what they do is the taking all the pieces of a team of people and putting it together and putting your stamp on it i literally feel like that's what i do when i'm doing my tiktoks because i always have like my little writer's room of my friends yeah where i'm like and it's like it's like my friend who's like a nurse or like a social worker and they're like maybe i'm like no say it say it well i was just saying like something i feel like people do sometimes they like they'll like talk

about their mom a lot and i I'm like, that's genius. That's genius. And then it always is. Your friend who's a social worker has to stop pitching because they have only negative stuff to say. No, totally. Like when someone neglects their kids and you have to take the kids. Exactly. And it brings that interesting little texture.

But anyways, so I want to be your showrunner. We were saying, what do I want and do I feel like I'm performer first? I know I'm tangent, but I do keep track of where we're going. I just want you to know that. I have full confidence that there's a roadmap in there. And I'll tell you something else I'm tracking about the conversation. Tell me. And I'll be putting it into it soon. Yeah.

You are going to do everything. I'm learning just in this short interview. You're going to do everything in your power to try and make this episode about me and honey like it or not it's about you you can't help yourself literally I'm watching you're getting into an answer and then being like but wait what about you and I'm like no no no Sabrina

this is about you baby you're too generous and that was crazy of me and you know what I'm so sorry no I'm so sorry. No, I'm just not going to let you be selfless on here, babe. Today's about Sabrina Breyer.

Okay. Ultimately this show is about the guests, not about me. Oh my God. Believe it. But I'm so obsessed with you. Okay. Um,

I believe that, um, I am also performer first. Um, just because, yeah, I think there's just like that. I think, I think TikTok for me was, you know, I was writing, writing scripts and, yeah, I think there's just like that. I think TikTok for me was, you know,

I was writing, writing scripts and I also have room experience, not as a staff writer, as an assistant. So that's kind of the difference between us. So I was kind of getting you coffee. You know what I mean? I wouldn't have seen you. I would not have seen you.

No, no, no, no, no. You would not have registered to me. No, no, no. I would have pursued the shit out no no no you would not have registered to me no no no I would have pursued this shit out of you I'm notoriously bad to support stuff really

what do you do I'm really negative you say diet coke in the fridge oh I belittle them yeah I belittle them I shout I shout

I say you're ugly get out of here oh that's so you all kinds of stuff that I do to them that's so you ask any of the assistants on any show I've worked on

I am bad to them you're bad it's my calling card I love that that it's on your trailer yeah yeah he's gonna cheat the assistants like yeah yeah but so um but yeah I think that when we're talking about jealousy too I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm so sorry that I keep talking about eight million things and I have to thread everything together um no I love it okay so I you know I feel like the jealousy thing going back to the jealousy thing we were talking about which I have don't have a jealous bone in my body anymore because I have arisen but I um I'm wearing white

um but I yeah I think it was definitely I you know what? I was looking through old texts and I found the text to my sister where I said in quarantine, where I was like, I think I really should just like try this content thing. Like, like before I made anything. Yeah. And like, it was so interesting kind of read my honest thoughts about it to my sister and my kind of see the anxiety and also just with the irony of having no idea how, how, like, what if I had not? Like those texts of me being like, I think I want to do this. And all of that really was coming from like the jealousy, like you were saying about people in college, like the jealousy of other people who were doing it. And I think sometimes

you know you have to like listen to that thing in yourself like sometimes that thing in yourself is well if I'm jealous for no reason of someone who I shouldn't be jealous of because they're just doing their thing because they're doing anything maybe I want to do that thing or you know same with like like you know maybe it doesn't do it for you. She's just like, like my mom's a writer and it's like she would have so much fun just like even if it's just like whatever it is, like just staying up all night like da-da-da-da-da-da. I'm not like that.

I'm like, I hate this. And like I have a deadline and I need to get this thing done, but I'm able to do that and I'm going to be able to do it and put it all together because it's for like a greater purpose of a project that where I get to perform or I get to do this or that. and I think it's like those little things that teach us what we like really are primarily and it doesn't mean we shouldn't do the things because like that's a part of work is sometimes not doing the thing that you're obsessed with but yeah I think

it's and I also do think a lot of times too like you encounter other artists other people are like when I have people come up to me or younger and are asking advice it's I always say it's like I think the number one thing is like what do you actually want to do because just like what you said in college it's like it's a it's not easy to just say that to like say the thing you actually want to do I I call myself a writer for like the longest time when I first graduated college and was assisting and doing all that stuff because I was just so intimidated to to call myself an actress you know especially as someone who like like why do I get to call myself an actress I don't have credits but it's like I was an actress because I like that's who I am and that's what I've been doing since I was little and always like dreamt

of doing yeah I think there's a certain uh thing about that like calling yourself something versus doing it that's like there's this thing I heard like a year or two ago that I think about still a lot which is how you spend your days is how you spend your life and that's I think there's a part of it that's like that's like you can call yourself whatever you want no one's gonna check your credentials on whether or not you're a writer or an

actor not anyone's saying but it's like you can say you're a writer or an actor all you want but if you actually want to do those things if you actually want to write something that gets out into the world and impacts people at some point you have to sit down and fucking write and if you actually want to act in things that get out into the world and impact people at some point you have to actually fucking act and you can you can sit around all the time waiting on someone to cast you or someone to buy your script or someone to put you in a room or whatever but if all those days leading up to that pivotal thing happening if all the time waiting on someone to cast you or someone to buy your script or someone to put you in a room or whatever but if all those days leading up to that pivotal thing happening

if all the time between knowing that you want to do something and the lucky break happening that you get to do it at the level you want to do it if all that interim period you spend it wishing that someone would let you do it and not just doing it it's never going to happen like you have to get lucky for sure luck for sure luck has to come there's no sane person who would ever tell you that they succeeded in entertainment without luck coming but you have to be prepared when the luck comes right if the luck comes and you're not ready it won't last and it's also um connects to the desire thing too because it's a little bit of like do you desire to perform to write whatever it is that the thing is that you

have to prepare for or do you just want that moment of the success when it does happen because the reality about those moments of like getting the thing that is like the thing that's going to make you happy the thing that's going to make you feel like a writer an an actor, whatever, it's like exciting, but then it's like actual work. It's like, I got the part. Wait, I have to like memorize the lines. No, it's... Show up. It's the announcing the victory to actually doing the work pipeline

that really beats your ass. The deadline article to waking up at 3 a.m. to go to set pipeline will beat the fuck out of you. Totally. Yeah, that's hard. That part sucks. I think, and I think that, but that's also can be such a like a lovely thing too.

If I really had this truly like this moment when I was on set at Abbott. Because, you know, it's intimidating. I'm new. Like, you know, you're coming into this incredible Emmy award winning show with all these people who are like, it's like the machine is so well oiled. And you're kind of like, hey, kind of like slithering in there. Of course they were so kind and welcoming, but I literally had a moment where, you know, I'm there, it's like intimidating. It's like so many people like watching my rehearsal. I'm like, I think I know the lines. I

know the line, like da, da, da. And, and then just kind of like had that thought in my head where I was like, you literally got this, like just do it. And it and like didn't flub like didn't mess up any of the things I would have been upset if I messed up and then I was like I literally was able to do that because of TikTok the pressure the pressure the like rising to the occasion of the pressure because like so much of some like sometimes I will make a video and to me the stakes feel really high because if I'm at a dinner and I have like two good friends at the dinner and there's like third girl who like, maybe I don't know as well. I'm already feeling self-conscious cause I'm like, now this girl's going to think I use

my friends for content, which I do. Now this girl's going to think I use my friend for his content, which of course I am. But I don't want a stranger to know that. But I, you know, my friends are so used to me I am but I don't want a stranger to know that but I you know my friends are so used to me and like I definitely was so annoying at first because I was like tweaking all the time like must stay relevant but now that I've like built something I'm able to you know I I kind of save it for the like I like now I'm like I used to have a friend where I'd be like I know you hate this but like can you do it like now it's like I know to I I pick the right

times now but my point is I pick the right I pick the right times now but my point is I pick the right times I've hit the right times but my point is that I've had so many moments where it's like like a high pressure situation like like for example we're gonna do this line we're waiting for the street sign to go walking and we're gonna as soon as I do and then you have to come and then we organically run into each other. And, and, and I'm working with all non-actors who are nervous. They always forget their lines or like they drag them, drag them, which, and I love working with non-actors because I think they always bring something really interesting to it. And also I like, they're incredible. Like my, my, I, my roommate is an ICU nurse.

She's a cardiovascular ICU nurse. My oldest friend. We've known each other since we were three. I'm so sorry you live with someone non-industry. Oh, yeah. That's tragic. It was very much a choice. I actually could have lived alone, but I chose to live with a nurse.

With a nurse. Yeah. Actually. Actually. But no, she like has genius notes she is has become like she is so the opposite of a performer so she's got like this total monotone thing about her but that monotone has become like the perfect voice and like people are always like wait who's that voice and i'm like you guys are all talking about alice like she is goaded and like whatever. But anyways, point being. She can't talk right now.

She's stitching someone up. She's saving lives. But I was saying that when I was at Abbott, I had such a moment of like TikTok literally prepared me for this because that feeling of like, you know, I think I know the lines. I think I know the lines. I can't forget them is a very TikTok feeling for me because you can't forget them because you have to do it right this second because if you mess it up, this whole domino effect

of like your friend will mess up and then they'll lose their confidence and you won't be able to like capture the thing you're trying to capture. So in a funny way, like I really felt so prepared for that pressure because of that. And then I'm just connecting it to what we're saying about the desire versus like or do you just want to like be famous or like have the success moment because you know I had so many times of feeling you know I want to act and among other things but you know when you want to act it's it's always such a hard thing because it's like you're at the a lot of times at the um you know at the power of other people and whatever whatever I'm like so I don't know if you know this but being an actor is hard um but I you know I had definitely had a lot of those

internal frustration moments over the years making content of like I wish I was doing this but like up there and like in this different way and and maybe the fact that I wish I was up here like on a screen and I'm on this little screen maybe that means that I'm not as what I'm doing is as important or I'm not as much of an artist or it's not as much legitimate but then ironically it's like getting on to that set it's you're like there's no difference queen like you know at performing is performing so I think it connects to to what you're what you were saying about like the desire because it's's like, if you love the thing, it shouldn't matter what the budget of the production. I mean, of course it matters.

It's nice to have the stuff. It's, it's nice to have, you know, to make money on a real job and like start, we all want to move up in the world, of course. But it's like, you have to, you know, I think about when I made a web series when I was first out of college. And like I think about that experience being on camera and I directed it and I wrote it. And, you know, I'm working on a big project right now where I'm like I keep thinking about that. And I'm like, yes, of course, I'm better now. I know what I'm doing now. Like 8 million things where I'm just more evolved and happy to be where I'm at now and not where I was at then. evolved and happy to be where I'm at now and not where I was at then but but as an artist it's still making a thing and having a vision and putting something together and being excited when you do

that and I think it's just so easy to lose that you know I think also if you don't like what you're doing you should stop that's another thing that people which people don't do people just keep doing I didn't like making internet content I didn't feel inspired by it and I stopped you know what I mean it's like you can just quit you can just go do something else you don't do. People just keep doing it. I didn't like making internet content. I didn't feel inspired by it. And I stopped. You know what I mean? It's like you can just quit. You can just go do something else. You don't actually have to do the things you don't like doing. But people insist on continuing down a path because they're already there.

And it's like just quit. 100%. I have people do have this where sometimes. Because I know that you're not making that kind of content. But you're still like content plus. Like with like the clips and stuff. Yeah. Do you ever have people who. I feel like sometimes when you do make content sometimes like you meet other artists

people they're like i don't know like i guess i should make content like should i and it's kind of like you shouldn't do something if it's not like speaking to because it's not gonna be good well you know so if you're not if you're gonna do it commit but then the other thing is like i don't know what what are you trying to do and what do you see working and like what it's like it's like when people ask me that i'm like i don't know make a list of everybody who has what you want and look at you and them and if they all succeeded 30 plus years ago then the difference maker might be that you do need to make content like it is part of the ecosystem now so like it's it's all individual but it's like when people ask me should i do that i'm like what do you want what do you want like yeah it's i don't know what do you where are you trying to go

and if you want to yeah if you want to like it's just part of it now if you want to sell out venues even as a stand-up it's like you better have something to put on the internet what is your big want my what do i actually want here she goes again well i know it's's such a big question. I had to turn it back around. No, of course. My big one. Full circle it. I want to, right now, I think in the future, I don't know. I want to do so many things. Eventually, it all depends on how much money I make and where I get in my career. If I had all the money in the world, someday I'd love to have a record label. Someday, I'm already starting to direct.

I'd love to produce. I would love to i i'm already starting to direct i'd love to produce i would love to open a venue in kansas city i but right now the tangible things that i actually have some kind of control over i want to film my hour and sell it somewhere um which i think we're hopefully pretty close to doing um and i want to make this movie about my dad with lily that's like we're out to cast right now trying to get it financed and stuff um and i have a show that i sold to netflix that i with my friend katie delaney who's a genius do you know katie no she's so so funny this is a different one different one okay you're like this is a different project i don't know which project did i say no but i would love to know her yeah she's wonderful she wrote for rick and morty for a long time she's a genius

um but yeah i would like to get that made it's an animated show that would be really fun to kind of make in the background while I do other stuff as well but yeah I just want to make stuff I want to put stuff into the world you want to have the opportunity to make the things that like okay like now I'm feeling like for the next few years I want to make this and I want to have the opportunity to make that thing yeah I want to learn more stuff all the time I don't want to be doing one thing that was I think one of the things that really turned me off about corporate life was like you learn a couple of skills at least in the path I was on like you learn a couple of skills like fucking excel and making decks and presenting and then it's like there you are and I'm like I want to do stuff

that is so scary and different and weird I want to move into like I want to make money so that I can risk it like I want to invest in stuff I want to like try my own big ideas. Yeah. I just want to do all kinds of things. A record label would be a dream because I love music. Yeah. You're like, so you're friends with all the pop star. Dually, but come out girl.

Where are you? I love, I love musicians. To me, they're pop stars. Muna, they're, oh,

absolute rock star, pop star. They're, they're stars. But you, but then you're friends with all these other musicians that has nothing to do

with anything but Kansas City. What was that again? What was that? Hold on one more time. I mean, I'm friends with a lot of musicians. There are a couple friends that I have that are musicians

who live in KC. Do you think you gravitate to musicians because of what you're saying? I gravitate to musicians because I respect them. Yeah. And I don't gravitate

towards comedians because I don't. Don't. No know but i actually do think on that topic of like music whatever i think there's something so special about being able to connect to like a piece of work that where you're like i could not have done this like you know it's like it takes you out of it completely. I find myself, I will often like look at certain like female artists who I really admire and I feel like I kind of steal pages from their books of like how they run their careers even though it's like, like I went to like an Olivia Rodrigo concert with my lover. She's amazing.

I'm obsessed with her, with my friend. It was all 12-year-olds and us. And then I walked out and I was like, I have thoughts. Like, you know what I mean? Like I just find because I, you know, someone like her, it's like, you know, I love to look at those people who are inspiring and, and of course not inspiring me to, I'm like, I'm going to be a 21 year old pop star. Um, but you know, and, and, but a career is a career. Entertainment is entertainment. I think like, I think there's so many things you can look at about like longevity and how to maintain

who you are as a person and not lose that. Like I think you can look at other kinds of careers even if it's not in a different field. Oh, I'm inspired by courageous artists

who have integrity. I think about all different kinds of artists who have risked a lot of money or a lot of career advancement to do the right thing and there are so many people,

even I've had a very short career so far. Like it's been a couple of years that i feel like i've been a professional comedian and there have already been like five times where i've i've had these huge existential questions about am i going to do the right thing or get ahead in my career and it comes up so much especially in this work and i respect artists who like the chicks like the chicks are my favorite band because of their stance on the iraq war and how they really stood by that not only means was just like no this is what i think and i think yeah i just respect any artist in any field who is able to like balance this mixture of creating things because it makes your soul feel

good but also existing in a system that requires commerce to be a part of the equation totally doing that with integrity is so hard. Totally. And I love that. I love it. I love people who, anytime I feel that from someone, I love their work so much more. Yes. You know,

who's like, why is this just what's coming to my mind? But are you like a Fiona Apple stan? I love Fiona Apple. I feel like she's just like one of those, like,

I think if I saw her in person, I'd be like, wait, you're not a real person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you doing in the flesh? Yeah, like you exist as this kind of, like almost more so the way you would like study about someone in

class like in college like that's how i think about her where it's just like because i think that when people are what you're describing and they're artists and they're talented it makes them larger than life you know it's almost spiritual yeah it's spiritual and then you're like oh there can be spirit in what we're doing but also commerce and i think that's also okay and i think that's a great balance commerce is there but on spirit on spirit god no god what do you think oh me god yeah you what are you doing with it religion no religion definitely spiritual yeah i i mean like i i don't know like what i don't know i'm like sometimes i wonder if like when i have kids i'll like think about that more and in a more kind of way like how do you know because i i definitely believe in not

imposing anything or too much on kids when you raise them but like i think it's also nice to have like touchstones of like here's an option of something yeah yeah so i think did you grow up in a thing did you have a thing growing up? I grew up Jewish, but like not in my house, like more of just like in where I went to school. But no, I wouldn't, it's not like I was like,

I have to go home for Shabbat. Like, like a lot of my friends were, that was a really anti-Semitic impression. Jewish, Jewish people were always like, I got to get to Shabbat. Like that was,

with the Southern, with the Southern. I knowabbat. Like that was... With the Southern. With the Southern. I know that. I know that's the voice I do. And I don't know why. Hitch up the wagon, mom. We got Shabbat tonight. But so, you know, definitely.

But that being said, I think there's such a nice thing about any... I think like when any upbringing is kind of touched with some sort of cultural thing, you know, then you kind of like automatically embed that into like the nostalgia of growing up so I and I think that's a nice thing to have access to I also also another option I have for my children is I will be sending them to my summer camp which is Quaker yes so maybe they'll just be quakers do you ever know any quakers uh i don't know any quakers i don't think they're cool i'll go i'll rock with them

they're so cool because they're i'm like i the way that i like plug quakerism and like talk to people quakerism and they're like what do you know about it i'm like and i can name like three things but i because i went to a quaker camp and as a camper and a counselor and what we would do and then what they still do is they have meeting for worship which is how Quakers worship get down get down I wanted to say get down I wanted to say something like that but I couldn't think of it fast enough and you could so that's fine um but so they what they do is called meeting for worship and the way we would at least do it at camp.

So it was like really pretty. Cause you'd be like in a maple grove or something like that. Like it's very like trees and like donkeys and stuff like that. And, um, you would sit around and all it is, is for like a half hour, 45 minutes, you sit in silence, but in community, like with the entire camp, like the kids and the counselors. you sit in silence but in community like with the entire camp like the kids and the counselors and the idea is that god or like you know is speaking to you and then like if you have if you feel compelled you'll like stand up and and share but like you don't have to and sometimes there would be like some like funny kid who was like seven and like standing up and like sharing

something about like the stars or something like what is this if i was in the circle there wouldn't be much silence i'd be standing up and sharing yeah like if you were like 10 and you went to the summer camp i have a thought you think i just i thought about god let's talk and it's also too a little bit like i remember being a counselor it's like if someone would say it's a little bit like because it's not like it happens every time um but i think that's such a cool kind of almost like a new because the quakers are super cool you know they were like down with the native americans they were like slavery not into that like they were always cool they're always chill with everyone yeah and also

it's like you know it's not the it feels almost like it's almost like a a religion i'm trying to think it's like it's like just like a filter. That's what I'm trying to think of. Like on Instagram, when you, you know, we have like the normal filter or like the Paris filter. It's just, Quakerism is an Instagram filter.

It's like, it's like an Instagram filter. It's just, you just do one thing and it's just a light touch. I feel like that's what Quakerism is. It's like a light religion.

Quaker is the Paris filter. It just smooths the skin. It smooths the skin. It gets you feeling spiritual, but it's not too much. Just weeds out pro-slavery ideation. Yeah. You just swipe that on out of there.

Yeah, I love that idea. But, so, yeah, also, larger point being, like, will I, like, indoctrinate my children into a religion? No. Will I indoctrinate my children to my summer camp? Yes. Yes, absolutely. Yes.

You're like, you guys will be actors at Quaker Camp. Oh, yeah, at Quaker Camp. Yeah, I'm like, you guys are going to be actors oh no yeah oh yeah at quaker camp yeah i'm like you guys are gonna do dan the dance show like i did at quaker i know you did and i know i know you gave him hell at the talent show i gave i was the director absolutely absolutely and i was so because i wanted i was like i don't care that they're eight nine ten eleven twelve we're putting on a show yeah you better learn these fucking steps exactly i love that exactly you get moved in the circle you're like i have something to say we're not worshiping god with our dance moves

and we need to be and we need to be where's the worship where's the worship you guys are not giving it up to the the most high right now and i'd like to see it i would kill to be in your your drama your little talent show group at the quaker camp? Yeah. I know we would have connected. Well, you know what? I think when I was a kid, I definitely had that self-awareness thing of like, I'm a kid, right? Like when you're in a room with adults, you're kind of like, I'm a kid. Therefore, like anything I say is kind of going to have like less importance. Like I'm not going to be taken as serious.

Like I think I've just always really had that understanding. Can I tell you something? Yeah. I had the opposite of that. You were like, I'm fucking gonna be taken as serious like I think I've just always really had that understanding can I tell you something yeah I had the opposite of that you're like I'm fucking smarter as a kid as a kid in the room of the girls like these people need to listen up I was like I've got something to say that's the difference I truly when you were saying it I was like I don't relate to this I literally as a kid I would be I would be in a room with adults and be like why is no one asking me my ideas on this conversation? You're like, we're talking about the war. Yeah. No, truly.

I have thoughts. I'm seven. No, truly. I vividly remember talking about the Iraq war with adults. What do you think you said? I'm literally sorry to say. This is going to sound so fake, but I was anti. And I don't know what to tell you guys, but I was against the Iraq war when I was seven.

But were you like surrounded by people who were gung-ho about it so you were really a contrarian or like what kinds of things were you saying i have a very vivid memory of being at the lake which is where we spent like all summer we would go to the lake and you'd pick one we would go we love the lake and we would go to the lake and there all i could tell was that i didn't have an affinity for men as a child obviously i didn't like i wasn't vibing with men a lot all the men i was kind of like you guys should be shutting up and actually the women should be chatting and i felt that in on a spiritual level and then this this one guy that was friends with my um my mom's friend it was her best friend and she would bring him to everything and he he was i was i was talking about george bush because we had done like a mock election at school.

And I was like, I voted for John Kerry. I think that was that election. Yeah, yeah. And he was like – You were waiting to see if the water still rolled over you. Yeah, I was like, well, it happened to her? No, because you did it with Grace. And I was like – I voted for John Kerry.

And he was like, no one really cares who you voted for in the school election. I was like, I don't like Bush. And I didn't actually know that he was like pro-war or anything obviously i was a child but i knew that that guy liked bush so i didn't and then he said some really fucked up things about middle eastern people and then i was like oh i'm i'm very anti us being over there i immediately got a picture i was like we shouldn't if this guy wants us over there we should not be over there i'm going opposite yeah i was like whatever he could literally be like i love ice cream and chicken tenders not even like fuck those you're like those are fascist yeah straight up those are of the devil yeah yeah yeah i didn't like that guy i could so but it's also

like sometimes it's just about vibes yeah it's about vibes and when you're young maybe you don't have all of the tools to articulate those things yeah but this is the same being anti-war is so easy that even children can grasp it i think is what yes and that's the point is i think what we're coming to yeah yeah yeah i think that that was definitely where i was at with it wait where how do we even get here about we're talking about me being anti-war the Iraq war. We are actually getting into the hold for a pause Iraq war. That is so funny.

How did we get here? Should we talk about like another kind of Yeah let's talk about all the world conflicts. Let's start from the first one. What's your favorite? My favorite world conflict?

Yeah. Actually I do want to answer that because I know you're kidding but I think there's got to be something insightful to say here. Definitely. My favorite world conflict actually i do want to answer that because i know you're kidding but i think there's got to be something insightful to say here definitely my favorite world conflict gotta be vietnam right not in terms of me wanting it to happen but in terms of wasn't the music that came out of that pretty good i was just about to say Neil Young wasn't the music pretty good I think the music was pretty good the music was

the music Creedence Clearwater Revival yeah three yeah okay there we go yeah I think just in terms of art production

maybe that one yeah okay I like always loved like you're like i always loved what occurred in granada this is not a culture there's no world conflict it's a different kind of conflict but i've you're like you're like you're like the push and pull between carrie and big on sex in the city i was gonna say i love aids movies this has been so much fun girl no you know what's crazy is i actually know exactly what you mean and i feel it's a genre i feel the same normal horror angels in america i don't mean just movies just all because it's a genre you're a true a true lover of gay men and that's how because aids

movies will really pull on your heartstrings but i'm really with you they really do also like when i was growing up like i used to like this is my thing of like knowing that people knowing like not understanding things but like having it right here like how you with iraq war my thing of that is you're on the playground being like i'm an aids nurse who wants to be my patient oh no you got it i i definitely remember like when people would use like the f slur yeah because i'm from connecticut so there were many slurs going on yeah um high school whatever and um people would use the f slur you went to slur high yeah I really went to SHS I really did um and I I'd say I'd like look at like whatever boy in the car like I'd be like you know what actually like my mom's best friend died of AIDS so that that's really not funny. Which is true.

But like, I would like weaponize it. Yeah. But like, I kind of thought like, maybe probably because it's like I wasn't being cool by not just like laughing. Yeah.

But I was like, I'm an ally. I have to say something. I think what you said was actually amazing. Thank you. Thank you. Because it's really intense.

No, it's not. I it's like i think it's sorry mom i'm sorry my mom's definitely gonna be watching this it's really intense she's a fan i know you're a truther yeah your mom confirmed k liberty um no i think it's really into you have to meet that that kind of stuff you have to show them how not lighthearted it is by obviously invoking the aids crisis yeah no i'm like let me make them feel like shit yeah like that's beautiful because i think i understood it that at's beautiful. Because I think I understood at that age that like, I think I understood like,

you don't really know what you're talking about. Like, I understood like, we're all dumb. Like, we're kids. Yeah.

So actually, there was the AIDS crisis. Yeah. But like rent, I'm a big rent head. Someone says, I get in class and you're like,

picture this. New York city, 1983. Gay men are getting sick and no one knows why. But they really are. I mean, what are the other, like Philadelphia,

Philadelphia, trying to think of where the other tick, tick, boom, Dallas buyers club. Tick, tick, boom was so good.

AIDS movies are a genre. I'm going to make an upbeat one though you should have like netflix you know how they have like you know they have netflix they've like did it dot and then like it should be like aids movies it should be it should be it should this is your version of the criterion closet we're gonna we're gonna send sabrina into the eight four yeah our favorite aids movies yeah i'm gonna stop with this bit we're gonna move on it's not a bit it's very real I'm really with you

I love those movies too I actually saw a category on Amazon last night I was looking for a movie and I saw a category on Amazon Prime that was the category for movies

was spotlight on mental health and I was like you were like everything boring everything I was just like what who goes into a movie night going like let's put a spotlight

on mental health do you think mental health is kind of like passe yeah mental health is over get over it i'm like i think we've addressed it we've talked about it enough we've just talked it to death it's like do pills or don't but i think well i think that we've talked about it so much it's like okay we we get get it. We're all in this. Yeah. It used to be kind of, I feel like for so long, people were like, you know, mental health, people really struggle with it.

It's like, I think that sounds like you do. It sounds like we all do. It has also become a thing, I think, with the mental health awareness specifically has become a thing where I think it in some way has allowed people with low-grade ADHD to relate to people with schizophrenia. And I'm like, right. So you're actually fine.

Like you are, you forgot your keys like once last week. You're actually okay. Right. Like you, you're not like in, like in danger of yourself. You're going to be all right.

It's going to be okay. Yeah. It's going to be okay. It's a hopeful message that I have. Maybe we need like some new words to kind of like, yeah. Terms to kind of, it's like,

it's like mental health awareness. It's like level one, level two, level three. Maybe you're not having a mental health crisis. Maybe you just had a bad day. That might help. You're not having an episode. You know when that's a raven? Yeah, tough afternoon.

I have a question for you. Yeah. What's so true to you, Sabrina Breyer? What is so true to me is that and just and to me you know what I mean like it's so true to me

totally it doesn't have to be universal totally okay hey guys just really quick this is just Sabrina so true

you guys might relate to it y'all at home take it or leave it yeah but this is for Sabrina right and I just want to frame it as leave it yeah but this is for sabrina right and i just want to frame it as like don't think this is something i'm saying that's like relatable like it might be for me for me so true for me in terms of sabrina yeah i just wanted to make

sure i had the prompt correct yeah you do um what's so true for me is that i really thought when i turned 13 that i was gonna be a witch like genuinely yeah like you were a kid being like i have witch powers on the way my name is sabrina yeah so that'll start it this is not a joke i was born on the exact stroke of midnight oh what do they do with that which day do they count you as? My mom got to pick. That's how exact it was. Wow. It was like, like imagine, like there's smoke in the delivery room.

Like, like the clock is like, you know what I mean? And then like I pop out and it's like midnight. You know, like the bells. And it's like, and then it's like me.

Did she pick the day prior or the day next? So she, I was born between August 3rd it's like, and then it's like me. Did she pick the day prior or the day next? So she, I was born between August 3rd and August 4th and she picked August 4th so that she could stay in the hospital a day longer

for free. Queen. Queen. She said, I don't give a fuck about anything but laying in this bed. Yeah. I love that.

Yeah. She was like, here's the tea. It was the fourth. Yeah. I love that. So I, so like,

my name is Sabrina. i was born on the start of midnight i i i do feel i feel witchy internally i feel that about you i feel yeah thank you yeah and i love witch lore obviously spirit of teenage witch of of all varieties yeah of all mediums but um yeah and then i so I remember turning 13 and I was really like looking at the clock and I was like am I gonna feel different when it's gonna hit me and then and then didn't happen so I thought okay um Sabrina the Teenage Witch she didn't like from the the movie the Melissa Joan Hart movie not that not to be confused with the series right um she didn't turn until she was 16 so then i waited till my 16th birthday so you're a fully 15 year old girl thinking next next year so true

fantastic fantastic and then didn't happen and then i thought i guess i have to be legal wait until i was 18 no now you're 17 and waiting on the witch power I'm yeah yeah you're like oh we're escalating yeah it won't be crazy if you kept going and you're like yeah so I turned 30 soon and when that comes up so what's so true to me I guess to kind of just like put a pin on it like kind of put a bow on it. What's so true to me is like, just because we're adults doesn't mean we can't believe in that shit. I love that so true. I absolutely love that so true.

I think if you, I think if you ever get powers, I want to be the first one to know. That's what I'll tell you. I'll tell you. I think about things like this a lot. I'll tell you, but I won't tell everyone.

Don't tell everyone. I'll tell you. I hope if you get it, you'll cure aids or something really i know it would fuck up your favorite movie genre but that's a crazy conflict that is what do i do i said something crazy the other night we were tell me i said in this vein the other night we were at the house, me and my roommates, Allie and CG, and I was so hungry. I think I hadn't eaten in like 20 hours or something. I was starving. And our food was taking forever to get there.

And I said out loud, unprompted, if I had a choice right now between our food being here right now and ending all world suffering, I'm sorry to say I would be eating right now. And that is literally how- Because why is all world suffering your response and they brought that up they're like it's not a fair trade yeah but I literally I meant it too I was like I would not I would not help a single person if I could just eat right now are you the type of person where like what's your level of restaurant um assertiveness what do you mean by that so like you're starving,

your food comes, there's something really majorly wrong with it. What do you do? Some people would never do a thing. I'll go as far as I can. Like if there's like, I said no mushrooms and they put mushrooms,

I'll pick around. If there's like, I said medium and it's well, I'll eat. But there gets to a point where I'm like, I will say, and I'm way

more i'm way more quick to speak up on someone else's behalf i'm way quicker to be like your thing was fucked up i'm gonna say something but my thing i'm just not picky enough to really care most of the time i will always be like hey i need a refill hey can i get some extra sauce but what if okay go ahead it's like oh expensive do you and i'm like you're supposed to be having an experience i feel like that's that's like when you're like i'm going out to dinner today like you go with some friends like we're having a night you sit and you get something where you're like it's like a 30 dollar like pasta or like something like that where it's like you're coming there to for them to get it right do you do you do that well no no because so you're a better

person than me yes yes and not just because of that either there's a lot of reasons

there's a plethora yeah you're gonna be tempted to make this about the one thing but it is a bigger thing totally no I just

I'm so comfortable spending money spending money on restaurants is so important to me yeah I don't I don't buy super fancy

clothes I don't have a really I don't even have a car in LA my car in Kansas City sucks I don't I don't have the nicest house I can afford yeah i don't i don't buy super fancy clothes i don't have a really i don't even have a car in la my car in kansas city sucks i don't i don't have the nicest house i can afford like i don't my thing is definitely yeah travel and food yeah flights and restaurants my thing is um oh also i just i don't want anyone coming for me i don't want you guys to think i'm not nice at restaurants i'm really nice tiktok and I just I will my point in that was just that my sister has really taught me like you know sometimes you can some and not or like if

someone's like rude like I'll like you know I mean some of us all say something oh my god Sabrina no I'm like I'll become I'm like really unafraid of confrontation oh Sabrina girls aren't supposed to do that I know is that kind of crazy oh my god I'm like really unafraid of confrontation. Sabrina, girls aren't supposed to do that. I know. Is that kind of crazy? Oh my God. I'm looking at you so different right now. But what I was going to say too with the other thing you were saying is my things are, I

think my things are travel and food too. Yeah. Like I'll spend like a hundred dollars on like a grub hub. Oh yeah. It's nothing to me. Nothing. It's nothing to me. I'll door dash something. A hundred dollars to not have to make my own food i'll doordash something that's like zero dollars

yeah you know when people do those viral threads that are like if you're doordashing your morning coffee fuck you i'm doordashing that yeah yeah yeah yeah if i need if i've got a meeting that i have to be on and it's two hours i'm doordashing that coffee you're like sorry if if i'm not allowed to be doing it why is it an option yeah why can i do why can i do add to cart all door dash i don't care i tip well and i tip well too so those freaks can go away of course the the it's cost us freaks get out of here i tip well i love to door dash i'm also into i don't i've been on a plane three times this calendar year and besides that not a lot in the past few years yeah i'm not a big traveler i've never been to like europe i've never been anywhere really just a connecticut little

girl yeah and but now that i'm starting to like travel a bit more i'm i'll do i'll do comfort plus oh come on treat yourself i'll do comfort plus just be clear you flew new york to la on comfort plus yes i'd love to see you in first class i. Just to be clear, you flew New York to LA on Comfort Plus? Yes. I'd love to see you in first class. I'd love to get you up there. Kat Cohen tried to say to me, like, that you should always be, like, she was like, first class is really, like, it's the thing of life. Like, it's like.

She's real as fuck. Just, like, burn the money there. Like, it's what, it does it for you. And I'm like, and then I was, like, thinking of her saying that when I was, like, booking. And I saw their prices and I'm like, that's crazy. It is crazy. That's like a lot of money for a chair. It totally is.

Honey, it really is. But here's what I'll say though. Yeah, tell me about that. Even more important than, I always fly first now, but even more important than that, if I could give something to everybody, including the listeners, develop a, pick your airline and stick with it. Be loyal to an airline. You are leaving so many perks and easy, nice things on the table by not just these people

who go, Oh, I'm going to fly America. No, I fly every airline. There's, I fly so much that like there are two or three times a year where I have to get on an airline. That's not my preferred airline just because of the way it all worked out. Like I'll have to fly Southwest cause it's the only one that goes direct from this place to this place on this day. Whatever.

Overall, as much as you can, be loyal to an airline because you get priority boarding, you get benefits, you get access to the lounge, you get all kinds of things by doing that and you don't get it if you're spreading your flights around.

And then the guilt for spending that on like a first class ticket is a little bit. Well, you can get up to that. That's the other thing is a lot of people who are who are status who are like platinum or whatever you are with your thing you'll you'll book the comfort plus or the business option you'll get bumped up to first i don't risk that i just pay for it because i want to know where i'm at and it's worth it to me because of how i'm so big in every direction tall and fat that it's like i just want to know

i have a comfortable seat but there are people who game the system like that and do really well with it. There's upgrades that come. I don't know about things like this. That's why I'm telling, I'm saying. No, I feel like you were like, I need to educate Sabrina because I'm looking at her and nothing I'm saying makes sense. I need to tell Sabrina. Because I'm just so not like, I like with travel. I mean, it's actually, it's my mom's fault.

I wish I'll say to her because she's listening and she knows it is. And I know she has said that before. Be very careful when you talk about her because she is a k-liberty and yeah yeah she yeah she's protected in this space that's true that's true she can kill and it's okay because she's a huge fan of yours yes but um which is that um she had like i think it was her way of like how do i make sure that sabrina is like always safe let me kind of implant fear into her brain yeah so that she thinks kind of like almost like normal everyday things are dangerous yeah let's ground her in terror and then she can crawl her way out that's her business yeah yeah so like I really truly like I remember I think I traveled for the first time myself like by myself in college.

And it was just like, you know, I was there like three hours early. And like I still do like two hours early, an hour and a half. But point being, I just all of the little things of like the checking it, it was like foreign to me. It was like and I have a tendency to I think it's like an anxiety thing to like think that something is maybe more difficult than it is like and where you're more so coming from a place of I can't do that yeah I was like well I can't travel like I don't know how to do things like that that's not for me no yeah that's not for Sabrina no some things are for no this is not one but now of course I'm getting more adult with it whatever but I yeah like even me being in LA for like 10 days right now is because I'm like, well, I got on a plane.

I have to stay a while. I have to stay a year. Obviously. I have one final segment for you, Sabrina. And it's a true false segment. Okay. Now I'm going to read you 15 statements that have an objective true or false answer. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can if you think they're true or false.

Okay. As quickly as you can after each one. And if you get 10 or more correct, we're going to 50 us dollars hey drop by drop we're gonna get you out of comfort i don't i don't want people to expect i'm gonna be good at this they don't have to expect that okay see the ipod touch was discontinued in may of 2022 ipod touch ipod touch true true lady gaga was in an episode of the sopranos trueos. True. True. You can still get DVDs mailed to you by Netflix. I think that just stopped. False.

False. They stopped in 2023. LeBron James' sons are named LeBron James Jr. and Bryce. True. True. Stanford, Connecticut is the home of the WWE corporate headquarters. True. True.

Shakespeare's wife. So true. Shakespeare's wife's name uh was judy dench no shakespeare's wife's name was named judy dench i can't understand what's happening here false i think it's a typo we're gonna say false and hathaway and we're not gonna count that for you avocados are vegetables false false the fruit the original sabrina the teenage witch ran for seven seasons true true dolphins can hold their breath longer than sloths

false false queen elizabeth ii was a trained mechanic true true uh doe how do you say that doe de ex machina is latin for god from the machine true can't wait i didn't know how to say that there are over 200 kit kat flavors in japan true true the nobel prize was invented in south africa false false sweden only male mosquitoes drink blood. True. False. Only female. That hurts so bad to do to you. Lea Michele owns over 14 grain silos in Indiana. Say it again.

Lea Michele owns over 14 grain silos in Indiana. Sorry. You have to decide. False. Are you sure? True. It was false. You did so good.

Wait, how many was I supposed to get right? Ten. One? You did it. I never win things like this. You way more than one. Really? You blew it out of the water.

Am I a genius? Have we ever had? The most anyone's ever won. No. Sabrina. No, no, no. Yeah, you really did it. You really did it.

I'm going to carry that with me for a year. I think you should. Maybe two. Because I don't do things like that well. You did it today. But maybe I'm just like more like chronically online and aware than I think I am. Yeah, you know everything about Louis Michelle.

So do I get $50? You sure do. What are we going to spend it on? We, you're going to spend it on flights, baby. We're going to get you, or TSA, do you have TSA pre-check? Yes. Okay, well then that's already taken care of. Thank God.

I just got it. Thank God. And I just got it. Thank God. And it was such a big deal do you want to plug anything to the listeners there's millions um um i just would love to plug that you know follow me on the internet guys and love you and they love you back and that's clear thank you for doing it i love you clinking kayla hey love you thank you so much i love you this was beautiful

this was so beautiful can we do this one more time yeah