So True with Caleb Hearon - Sureni Weerasekera is Dancing

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious Sureni Weerasekera! Sureni and Caleb talk growing up in San Diego, parenting styles, Sri Lankan community hangouts, love, and so much more! Join our Substack for ad free full episodes, early access to merch, our community chat, and more! https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ Follow Sureni! @sureni Follow the show! @sooootruepod Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud Try Domino's Parmesan Stuffed Crust Pizza today at https://dominos.com Visit Sunglass Hut and find your perfect pair for Summer. Sunglass Hut – Own Your Moment. https://www.sunglasshut.com/us Visit https://Quince.com/sotrue for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. Go to https://www.squarespace.com/SOTRUE to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code SOTRUE. Find exactly what you’re booking for at Booking.com. Book today on the site or in the app. To get involved, text UPDATE to 22422 or visit https://ImForPP.org So True with Caleb Hearon is edited and engineered by Nicole Lyons. Our social media manager is Virginia Muller. All episodes are filmed in The So Trudio at Legitimate Business World Headquarters in Brooklyn, New York. A Wave series. https://wavesportsandentertainment.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's Rainy. Hey, Gaila. What the hell's going on, brother? What the hell is up? Tell me what's up with you now. God, got into my head. Yeah, now what's up with you? I don't know. I feel good.

I went to public service on Sunday that is one of my favorite parties of all time. It's outside in the park. Yeah. And that park hang will just change my life. Like, it's the first one of the season every month. It's at Herbert Ron King. I did a little bit of mushrooms, like a tasteful amount. Yeah.

My stomach's still a little messed up. I feel good. Mushrooms mess your stomach up? Yeah. Never done. No, I'm not interested. Okay, totally don't. I don't.

I don't want to change my situation. Yeah, everyone thinks I should try them. Do you have some with you? No, I don't. Would you do it? Did you do it? Honestly, maybe. Honestly, for the bit, maybe I would.

I don't think I'm interested. Mushrooms... What do they even do for you? They make you what? I think they kind of... You're a little up. You're a little... It's like...

I'm up. You're like, I do bad all by myself. I'm up. You're up. One thing about me, I'm up. I don't know, they're up. I like that you don't feel horrible the next day, really. Yeah.

Like, drinking and so... You just told me your tummy hurts. I'm just like a tummy's fine. You know? I drink. I'm lactose-free and I do a little dairy and sometimes, you know, but it's like, you know, pros and cons. Yeah. Yeah.

What's up with you? It's going on with me. I didn't go to that party, unfortunately. That's okay. What else is going on with me? I got up, went on a long walk this morning. Oh. Had a fresh squeeze orange juice.

Ooh. Beautiful. Okay. Beautiful. Went on a bike ride. Oh, all this morning? This morning, yeah. What time did you get up?

I got up at like seven. Wow. I'm trying to do better about mornings. We were talking about this, though. We did. This is an unlikable thing to say. I'm going to say it anyway. Say it.

When you get up early in the morning and you're a guy like me, there's too many hours in the day. There's too many hours in the day. That's such a, okay, that's very like my lobsters too buttery, pillows too cold kind of issue. Some people are like there's not enough time, but you're complaining about that. I know. Ungrateful. Now you're acting like TikTok comments. You're like, wow.

They doesn't know that immigrant workers are working overtime. Privileged cis white man has too many hours. Yeah, I said it was unlikable, okay? Yeah, that's endearing of you. No, but that's good. I like getting up early because I do feel better than other people. Oh, I'm way better. You know what I mean?

I do feel like, oh yeah, like I got my smoothie in. I worked out. I went on my little walk. I said hi to the neighbors, you know. I see the other morning people and I go, we're all better than the people sleeping inside right now. Absolutely. Yeah, we're better than them.

And you are. And same thing when I stay out late, I go, everyone in bed's a loser. Ew, like grow up. I'm the coolest person in America right now. Yeah, I'm like the coolest most out guy there is. Yeah. I'm like the party never stops because I'm here and I'm going.

It's nice to have you. I wonder if you want to apologize. You recently made some pretty insensitive jokes about ice and people of color. I cannot believe. You are weaponizing that right now. You fuck. You fuck. Cut the cameras.

I'm done. Cut. You can't really be your own people. Wow. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

I could read the whole exchange if you want. I was just checking in. I went just. Yeah. Because I made a stupid TikTok gross. I can't believe you're making me do this. Where I was like, except I'm trying to promote a show.

I was like, are there any gay people in Minneapolis? Like, I know there aren't people of color here, but like I know that there are, you know, white gay people come out or whatever. And someone was like, I cannot believe that,

you know, you would say that it's so insensitive because like, you know, ICE is so heavy in Minneapolis right now. Immigrants are in hiding. And I was like, it's not that deep. Like, y'all have the same stereotype as Denver, which is a lot of white gay people who are like the good whites. You know what?

They're the crunchy hiking whites that, like, protests and organized, you know? The whites with the whistles, yeah. And it's like, frankly, many people came out to be after the show. They were like, I'd never seen this many people of color in one room in Minneapolis. So, you know? And also, like, obviously a lot of queer spaces lean white because there's less barriers to entry to queerness for white people than, you know. Okay, now it's getting serious.

No, I liked that. I locked in. Did you see the way I locked in? Caleb was like, I'm listening. I'm learning. I went from joking to very, very serious. Yeah, people are way to doing too much. People are way too intense right now.

You know, like, if you look at my page, you know my politics are as left as they come. Like, I read Octavia Butler. I'm like, let's get our seeds and let's grab our go bads, bitch. Like, we got to lock in. The revolution's now, you know? I'm not the one, you know? And I matched his energy.

And then he sat down and shut up. And then he was like, I might try to come to the show tonight. I was like, bitch. And I was like, I'll try to get you on the guest list. Like, I was like, it's too much. That's the thing is no one's looking at your credentials and no one cares. Everyone's just trying to like, everyone is just like, Not everyone.

So many of us are just like walking around like spewing our fucking like anxieties on to each other. And it's really tiresome. I think the good part is like everyone wants to be good. Like that is the goal. Right. Everyone wants to be a good person. That is the motivation. Like that is pure and good.

But then it's just like, well, what's the actual impact of what you're doing though? Yeah. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's going on with you other? Yeah.

I am your hype man. I'll hype you up through anything. You know that. I'll do anything for you. I have been in your corner and I'll stay there. I feel that, actually. I'm with you. I start crying.

I think it's a really serious episode. I feel that. I feel love from you. You have love for me. I hope you, do you feel love for me? Oh, okay. We can work out of that. Yeah, I do.

No, I do. I'm just kidding, I do. I do, I swear I do. I do. I thought about doing a bit and then I took it back. No, do it. Okay, ask me if I feel love from you. Hey, Caleb, do you feel love for me?

No. Well, how do we change that? You know what? Honestly, we should be texting more. Oh. Me and you should be texting more. Or talking on the phone. I suppose I could start with unblocking you.

That would be nice. Because when I text you, it says not deliver. Yeah, and that's really fucked up. We can text more. Yeah. Well, okay, I'll call you out. I've invited you out dancing a couple times and you just... You have not invited me out dancing a couple times.

No, you have not. You put on your story that you wanted to know where like some places to go dance are. And I sent you. You told me one night, one time that you and someone else were going to dancing somewhere and that I could join if I wanted to. That's one technical invitation to dance. There was also that second party that me and Carly went to. What party?

The holy party. What party? The holy party. Holy party. Holy. Like, it's like a... What the hell is this? Like we're the goddamn clergy?

It's, you know, I really do... I should know. It's like a Hindu festival of colors. I don't know. I grew up Buddha, so I don't really know. But it's a beautiful festival. Wait, this party is? The one I was just being flipping about?

That was the second one, I think. Okay, which one is the Hindu one? I don't want to be flipping about that one. The holy one. Okay, cool. H-O-L-I. H-O-L-I. Oh, I thought we were talking to H-O-L-Y. No, I know.

I can tell. Midwest is showing, yeah. Yeah, sorry. That's okay. So it's a festival of what? Colors? Of colors. It's festival of light.

There's like a mythology of like good versus evil, and it's like something about good one. I don't know. Who's winning? Good. Good. Good. Oh, I love when Good wins. Yeah.

I would go to that. Yeah, I think that you and I might have different dancing vibes. I feel like you like a clubby, like EDM-E. You don't even know me. That's the thing you invited me to. No, I like house party. Or house music. Okay, the first thing you invited me to was kind of EDM looking.

I do like a little ointz from time to time, but I like house music, I think, more is what I'm realizing. Public service, that day party that's like free outdoors and everything I love. It's all house music. It's really fun. Yeah. For me, I can't be on a dance floor if they're not going to play at least one thing I can sing along to. If Mariah Carey's not in the mix, if Warren Hill's not in the music. if Warren Hill's not in the mix.

If you're not going to put in some stuff I know. Have you ever been karaoke? I love karaoke. That's a different thing. You'd love that. Karaoke's a different thing. That's all about singing. No, but there's some DJs

that will play like singable songs as well. Like, they'll remix it and stuff. And like, I believe in that. You get my birthday party. Yeah, that was so fun. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, you want to sing.

I want to dance, but I want it to be something I've heard before. Okay, I like that. I don't want 15 layers of like you're mixing the shit up. Yeah. Relax on it. Okay, I'll curate a New York experience for you. Would you really?

Let me make some calls. We should throw a dance party. I would love that. We would throw an incredible dance party. Do you think so? Yes. I think we could. We could have so much fun with it.

I'm trying to get better at the art of gathering. I know, me too. You're so good at it. Don't piss me off. No, I need to do more, though. I need to do more. What do you think you need to do? What are you not doing?

I just saw an Instagram reel of someone being like, oh, my friend had like a cobbler bake off. Like a cobbler. Well, I don't want to do that. I want to do stuff like that. That's something that's happening in Bushwick. I don't need to be there. I want to do some stuff like that. Okay, cobbler.

Okay, so food-based activities? I do love food. We can talk about that. Yeah? Yeah. Oh, my God. What can you cook well? Lob.

You know Lob? Yeah, I know Lobb. I love Lobb. Yeah? I love it like a fresh, tangy, you know, minty, herbaceous, basil something, fish sauce, like, got a little stank on it, you know? Yeah. Would you make that for me sometime? I would.

Really? Yeah. Well, we could have a potluck. I would love to do a potluck. You know, it's really cool. Part of this is, like, really dope Sri Lankan community in New York, which is, like, that's crazy that there's enough to have a little community here. And we do potlucks together where he makes Sri Lanka food.

It was really sweet. Now, you're not invited, but I just wanted to tell you about it. So I have an hour. Is there like a token white situation where I could sneak in? Oh, yeah. That's my dream. I make a good chicken curry. And that's the hard, that's, if you're making the chicken curry for like the potluck at a Sri Lanka,

that's a big deal. Yeah. And I was really nervous. the first time and it went well. And they trust you with it. They trust me with it now. My dream is to be the only white person in a room. I really get that.

As often as possible. I really get that. I like that. It feels special. Well, it feels special. If I'm at like a black ass event and I'm only brown girl, I'm like, yeah? Yeah.

Is that happening to you often? I'm a brown boy with motion. Please. It can happen from time to time and I'm always grateful and I'm like, thanks so much for letting me be here. Like, blah, blah, blah. Like, I love your culture, but like not in an exoticizing way. Yeah. Yeah, you know what, hell yeah.

I had mostly non-white students when I worked in Chicago when I worked with kids. And the things they came up with to say to and about me were so devastating. These are children. Whoa. These are children. They're calling me Pillsbury doughboy. They're calling me, I mean, Rosie O'Donnell's a famous one I've talked about. They're coming up with fat white people I don't even know about.

They're going home and doing their research. It's extremely impressive. Like, hey, Michelin' Med. And as a comedian, I'm like, this is incredible. Say that again one more time. And as the person in charge, I'm like, y'all need to knock it off. Yeah. Because we got stuff to do.

It sucks when, like, kids are so funny. They're so funny. And they're so mean. And I really love it. And they know that there's no consequences because they're not 18 yet. Yeah. I can hit them. 18, you can punch them.

18, you can punch. Yeah. And in my school district growing up, they could still hit. They could hit the kids. But not in Progressive City School Districts. Have you done it? You probably hit kids. Yeah, you probably hit a good.

I have never hit a kid. I have never hit a kid. My dad spanked me and he was a horrible parent. And my mom mostly didn't and she was the good parent. Yeah. Because I think that you, I don't know. I grew up going to hit by both, mostly my dad. But then I'm like, I don't know, sometimes I'm like,

I'd like to think that you can raise a good kid without hitting. I want to believe that's so bad. For sure you can. And I've seen families that seem adjusted and they, yeah. And they're not hitting. I don't know though. But I get what you're getting at words. Like sometimes you could tell when some kids not being disciplined at all in any capacity.

And I'm like, someone's got to hit this kid. It's the impulse, right? Because it's the most, but that's the thing is we have to be better than that. The problem with hitting for me that we, my aunt and I have actually talked about this with my grandma quite a bit because my grandma was big on hitting is and still is like, those kids need their ass beat. And we're like basically spanking is a cause and effect idea that the idea is if you do bad things, you're going to get hit.

And so you're asking the child to understand cause and effect. And if they're old enough to understand cause and effect, they can understand any cause an effect, which means they would understand taking away a privilege or... Right. So then hitting is just your own, like... It's a quick one. Desire to be violent because you're upset. And so then it's like, well, that's really fucking insane.

Would you ever get hit with this one, but not intended? It's like, my parents would be like, well, we didn't hit you as much as our parents hit us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, well, how about no one gets hit? You know? How about zero hitting? How about just stop the cycle?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. But in their mind, they're like, we're being such good parents right now. Like, we use restraint. open hand instead of closed fist, you know what I mean? My dad and I one time had a talk when I was like maybe 18 or 19 years old where we started to have like our adult talks. Yeah.

Where I was like, you hit me kind of a lot over like almost nothing. Yeah. And he was like, I never hit you with any weapon. He's like, I never hit you with a spoon or a belt. I always used my hand. And I was like, so that's not impressive or anything to say at all. And he was like, my dad would hit me with anything within reach. And I was like, right, so you were abused.

Yes. That has nothing to do with my situation. Literally. Crazy. Crazy. That's so true. I was in, the gas lighting is a little bit crazy.

It was like a light, like, well, we didn't hit you that. You know what I mean? Yeah. I went to couples therapy, not couples therapy, ooh,

I went to therapy with my mom. Uh-oh. A couple of us. I'm looking to. And it was honestly really cool and good, but I remember I was telling the therapist like, yeah, like, I'm like,

used to hit me and she's like, no, I did it. And I was like, I was gagged. Whoa. And I was like, what about with the coat hanger? And she's like,

oh yeah, I did do that. I had like jog or memory And I'm like, what about when you do With chopsticks or spatulas She's like, yeah And she's like Now she's going down memory lane Yeah, she's like

Oh that's a good one She was like wow That was fine I remember those sandals Yeah Let me see if we can find them That's so fucking funny I felt insane you know

Her being like Did I hit you? Tell me about it Yeah Reliving the glory Yeah yeah How hard did I hit you? Yeah are we recording this

Can you send me that back You know what I mean? Like it's her greatest hits No pun intended Okay Thank you. Look at us. What else is going on with you?

How's your love life? I relapse on dick. What? Yeah. Yeah. What? Do I know him? No.

Nice. Them? All of them? Them? I don't know. You're getting they, them, dick? I don't know. I don't know.

I'm just experimenting. Like, it's weird to revisit men as, like, later in life. Yeah. Because I've been such a lesbian for so many years. Like, I've always been pan and by or whatever. But, like, it's weird because, like, I'm at a day. different place of my gender like I feel really confident in my like masculinity and femininity like I feel confident in my like gender fluidity like I feel really at a much different place and one thing I will say about men they are really not healed yeah they are they are bad the emotional depth is just not there compared to like I sometimes feel like maybe I'll never fall in love with a man like I don't think I could ever do that again yeah you know like I didn't in the past but I don't know yeah why is that men or what they're not deep enough they're just not as deep but not as deep but not you, Caleb.

Yeah, no, I'm different. I don't take it personally when people talk about men. No, I know. It's just like, I don't know, I feel a little bit like, I start to notice, because you hear straight girls talk about all the time

where it's like, oh, I'm always doing therapy for this man. It's like, I get it now. Because I've been so out the game. I'm like coming back, I'm like, whoa. But then that's why it's like low stakes too. Yeah. I hate everything we're talking about right now.

I'm loving it. I'm loving it. I'm really locked in. I don't know. It's just also someone was telling me that like a lesbian relapsing on dick is like a recession indicator. That's something I was thinking about.

Look, I've been, for the past two years, I've had multiple gay men start experimenting with pussy, lesbian start experimenting with dick. Really, what is going on? When one of your staunchest lesbians, a year and a half ago, maybe two years ago, one of my staunchest lesbians, I will name them off camera,

told me that she was fucking a guy. And it was not even like a cool guy. That's so crazy. Fucking a guy, not even like a successful, beautiful, brilliant, like a fucking guy with his mattress on the floor, like broke guy dick. Right. And I was like, what?

No, of course it hits. Because you have nothing else going, right. You expect a lesbian to be above that. No, I know. But this is my theory. It's like, okay, the lesbian community is so small to begin with, right? And the idea of hooking up within the lesbian community sometimes can be so overwhelming. The idea of like hooking up with a dude from like, let's say even the straight community,

it's really like, I'm never going to see you again. It does not matter. It's so low stakes. Like, I actually don't give a fuck about you. Like, it's just like you can keep it. really sexual and get your needs met and not have a be that deep because it's not that deep. Yeah. You know?

Gay guys are doing that and then also hanging out. That's what I'm saying. That's so sad. I feel bad for gay men all the time. Is that why? Why do you feel bad for us? I thought, I think we're having fun. I mean, like the loneliness epidemic among gay men.

Well, it's a loneliness epidemic among men. Yes. Is one thing. But then I think when, I don't know. I feel like I just see like a lot of me, tell me if I'm wrong, but I feel like gay men are not getting like married as much they're not like having like because it's just when masculinity meets like that it's like shit's not happening you know what I mean like yeah yeah like both of you guys have a tough time being vulnerable you know versus obviously lesbians have the opposite issue which

is like we get vulnerable so fast we're crying on the first date like we but then I don't know there's also a high divorce rate among lesbians but people like to be like oh lesbians it's like the divorce rate is because we don't settle for less we're not trying to settle for shit that we're not happy about chances keep the song. Also, I love your conception of two gay men being like, it's too much masculinity. It's like, how many gay men have you hung out with?

Let me tell you, too much masculinity is not the problem that's being run into. Then what do you think the problem is in the game when? I mean, it's men. It's being socialized as a man. That's what I'm saying. Is that part of it? It's so much.

Yeah. And also, it's a problem that our broader culture has. Like, I don't think women are, I think that women are suffering the same thing that gay men are suffering in a different way across sexuality spectrums. I think we're all suffering under the same thing, which is like this intense crippling of choice.

There's this knowledge that there's always someone else not far away. There are thousands of people in your phone and you just treat them like this. Yeah, I agree. And that's really fucking intense. You used to like meet one person who was good enough in your town.

Yeah. And you'd be like, I fucking kind of like hanging out with that guy. Let's just lock it in. And I guess we'll figure out whatever comes up. And you'd be married. for 60 years and then you die within like a week of each other. That is so real. And now you can be in a happy loving relationship with someone who's really great and has maybe

like one or two minor flaws. And somewhere, not for everybody, but I think for a lot of us, somewhere in the back of your head, you're like, there's 20 guys that would fuck me tonight. You know? It's just right in my phone, just waiting. Honestly, begging. Yeah. For all of us.

I'm not saying for me. Not for me, but look, I haven't, however, I have it. But for all of us. Then I'm triple texting you. No, don't worry about that. I'm actually, I have started triple texting this one guy. Ooh, down bad. Really?

And I'm like, what am I doing? I like to see you vulnerable right now. Thank you. I've been vulnerable recently. You know what? You would be proud of me. I'm not going to go into too much details on here, but I have been pretty vulnerable in my dating life recently.

How does that manifest? I'm saying my feelings out loud. Wow. I'm my real feelings as well. Oh. That's the one you wrote in the bathroom at the date? I'm telling my, I'm telling guys my real feelings. Wow.

I'm not playing it cool. I'm not playing games. I've been off games in a big way. Why? You used to love games. What's the shift? What's happened? Well, I went through a breakup with, honestly, very similar to your breakup.

I went through a breakup last year with somebody that I love deeply still. It's a very good friend of mine. I love him so much. I think he's a wonderful person. He did nothing wrong. I don't think I did anything wrong. We could check in with him. I do want to have him on the podcast someday.

Oh, that'll be fun episode. We both think it would be really funny. But, yeah, I love him so much and I think he's wonderful. And we are very good friends. I saw him like last week. But I think going through that experience really like opened me up to being like, okay, I think I want to be more open in my situations. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. Like doing that with him felt like I'd been pretty guarded before that relationship. And then I was like, actually, I think I'm, I think I want to like really try to be more open and vulnerable the way that we were. I mean, I think that's such a testament to like you have to heal through relationships. You think so? Yeah, I think you can't. I think a lot of this concept of you can be told how to drive a car conceptually,

but you have to drive a car to know actually how to drive a car, right? Yeah. And I think like you did that through this relationship, which is that you were able to have a safe enough space to be able to open up and feel comfortable enough to bring that to the next relationship. Like that's so beautiful. Yeah. And then there's this other thing where I'm like, so sometimes when I date somebody and it ends amicably or I've seen someone or we've hooked up for a little bit and we both and we're just,

it doesn't work out. Then when they start fucking other people, no matter what, I'm like, what is that? Do you know what I mean? Like there was a guy two years ago that two, maybe I guess maybe three years ago now that I really liked. We had a good time. And then I was like, oh, I don't think I'm, I don't think this is more than what it was. Yeah. I think the hooking up for a couple months is what this was going to be.

Yeah. And so we like stopped hooking up. And then he started hooking up with other people. And I was like, you can't do that. Meanwhile, I'm me and that's it. I'm also looking up with other people. Yeah, what I get. I know exactly what the fuck you're doing about.

And it's not my actual feelings or values, but I have that. Like, I'll find out that somebody I used to fuck with is fucking with somebody new and I'll be like, totally. What are they doing? Because it's like, even my heart of hearts, it's like, I don't want you to hook up. I don't want you to think about anyone else ever for the rest of your life. For sure. That makes no sense logically. But like in my dream world, that's what would be the case.

I don't want anyone to think about anyone but me in my personal life at all. Like even my friends. Yeah. When you're not hanging out with me, I want you to be like, God, I wish Caleb was here. And I'm not. I know. And that's okay. That's actually normal.

I had to humble you a little bit. I'd be like, let me... It didn't humble me. Yeah, it didn't at all. No, it didn't touch... Yeah, you didn't touch... You would need a rocket launcher. That was great.

Whoa, goddamn. To touch my thing. Palantir? Let's work on this. Palantir? We have a project. Hello, Sam Altman? Do some more evil stuff.

We need you. That's so funny. I like that concept you were talking about, though, of like, we're in this, like, culture of choice that is, like, overwhelming. And sometimes I feel like, why can't I be happy with such a good thing that's just right in front of me? Like, why am I always, like, have a wandering eye?

Like, what if there's something better out there? Like, that what if feeling is so uncomfortable. And, like, I don't know how to sit in that and just be okay with, like, because it's like, how many concessions are you supposed to make that's healthy, right? Because there's always compromise. Yeah. And, like, I never know. I'm like, am I settling or am I, is a healthy amount of compromise?

Well, when do you know? I don't know. Like, you know, I both know. We're both single. I don't know. Like, we don't know. Don't you think, I guess I think when I'm having that feeling, because I know what you mean when you're in a good thing and you're like,

I don't know. if I'm supposed to be working this much at this, or if I'm supposed to be making this many sacrifices or what's normal? But don't you feel like, I don't know, I'm just like, when I meet the right person, it won't feel. But then, like, what if that feeling never happens?

Hello? I'm so, okay, I'm really scared. Say that again. I'm so scared. Like, that's the thing I'm so scared of is like, I will, I'll never be content in that way. I've thought a lot about, I made this theory up called the Sudoku theory,

which is like the, if a Sudoku puzzle is easy, it's boring. If it's too hard, you feel dumb. You want that middle level of it's difficult but fun. Yeah. And it's like, I think in theory, there's actually everyone has many soulmates. They're like, you could fall in love with many, many people. You can live a happy life with many people.

But then like, yeah, it's like, do you want high highs and low lows or do you want, like, contentness? And like, are you actually okay with that level of steady joy? I don't know. Like, I feel like us as comics would be like chase extremes. Like I also have like, I think I have like ADHD stuff where I'm always like chasing dopamine or like a next hit of something. like yeah I don't know I also think heartbreak is worse when you get a little bit older because in a way

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I've gotten over things before. I will definitely get over this. And I don't want to. I just want what I want. Yeah. And that's almost sadder in a way. Yeah. Or like harder to deal with.

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And every day. See, if this was a dance party, you would have been having so much fun. Dude, if there was a beat under that, that's the kind of shit I'm talking about. That's what I want. I'm getting it now. And it's not karaoke.

People who understand me, I get what you're getting at. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I want someone to play like, I want someone to play like fucking earthwind and fire. I want to, that's what I, and I want to be just a little stoned. Ooh. Yeah, I got way too stoned yesterday, actually.

Oh my God, really? I got way too stone. What was it edible? Weird at the taco spot. No. It was a joint that I smoked, I smoked a joint, like two nights ago. Chance was over at my house. I smoked some of this joint.

I felt a little high. I felt a little high. It felt a little high. It felt nice. Yesterday took two hits. Maybe it's because I hadn't eaten. I don't know, but I got fucked up off this. And then, yeah, I was weird at the taco spot.

How do you think you're really weird? I was just being weird. I kept like, I kept pronouncing the words on the menu pretty, pretty. Were you like white guy trying too hard at El Paso? I was, it was more complicated than Alpastor, but yeah. Enchalada. I was like, enchilada. I was doing too much.

Por favor? Enchelada. And low key, they liked it, but... I bet they loved it. They did. Your eyes red as fuck, trying to pronounce it. They knew what was up, yeah. They knew what was up.

Because at one point, after I had interacted with the two of their two servers that had come over at different times, I'd interacted with both of them, so stone. Yeah. And then I looked over and they were like, giggling. And I was like, yeah, they know what's up. Hey, you always get the laugh, huh? Get the laugh you need. Oh, it was so fucking good. I had an octopus taco.

Ooh. Yeah, we should go sometime. Delicious. Where at? You eat octopus? I eat everything. Yeah? Yeah.

Nice, yeah, apparently these days. Oh. Gobble, gobble, gobble. Give me that dick. Oh, I hate seeing you like that. I hate knowing that you sung dick too. I know. Isn't it sick?

It's so sad. It's sick to think about. It's so sad. It's really sick to think about. It's really, it's rough. You got a thing in there? You're mostly there these days. I feel like I really, I feel very fluid.

I feel really like I'll fluctuate. But yeah, you know, I got a little, I got a little, I like my, I love my gender right now. It's very futch. Yeah? Yeah. What is your gender right now? I mean, fuch, feminine butch, you know. But what is, what has changed about your gender that you're feeling so in love with?

I think I just feel like divinely harnessing femininity and masculinity in a way that's right. I used to like feel a lot of shame around my masculinity because I was a tomboy as a kid. And then, you know, I just felt ugly and unfuckable and all these things. and then I finally accepted that. And the ones I accepted my masculinity, then it allowed me to start wearing like skirts and wearing pink and wearing makeup. And like now I feel like I wear like a baggy fit like this

and put on like a little beat and like feel really good and powerful. Like I feel really like hot. Yeah. In a way that like I did not grow up feeling hot. I grew up in like a white, like we're around white people in Mexicans and like I was dark skin and like I was not desirable. And I just feel really like I feel like it's weird.

I feel like in a very broadest. stroke sense, like, women want me and men want me in a way that, like, this is crazy to me. Like, I still feel like that ugly kid all the time who was, like, overweight and, like, unlovable or whatever. But, like, it's so, like, I don't know. And I'm working always on, like, internal validation, you know? Yeah. And, like, do I feel good in what I wear?

And do I feel confident how I look outside of? But it's just weird to feel like, it's also, like, when you're, when you're, and I'm sure, like, like, as a masculine woman, I was undesirable to men, but they're, but they're, then when I would be in queer circles, when I moved to New York and stuff, I was like, whoa, people, like, there's a mass shortage. Like, people want this. And, like, that's weird. And, like, even with femininity with men, too, I'm sure, like, there's certain circles where

it's, like, that was rejected and now you're, like, embraced or whatever. You know, it's, like, it's weird. You know, what the context you are in is where you can be more desirable. I don't know. And it feels really good. Yeah. How's the, um, wait, what, you were saying something about, um, feeling desirable. Oh, internal validation.

How's that journey going? It's tough. Yeah? Yeah. I think like, you know, me and my therapists, we're working on. We're cooking, you know? Yeah. I think a lot of it is, I think anytime I show up for myself when no one, like who you are when no one's around is who you are.

Like, that's actually how much you love yourself, in my opinion. Like, are you like treating yourself sweet when no one's around? Like, are you like, you know, eating good food that's nourishing? Are you like taking care of your body? Like, are you, you know, taking alone time? Are you just alone scrolling on, you know, like, I think, I think a lot about who I am when no one's around. And, like, that to me is, like, actual self-love. And then anytime I, like, show up for myself or, like, get up at 7 a.m., do the cool shit or whatever, it's like, oh, I did that for me.

And, like, that feels really good. Yeah. And I'm like, I try really hard not to be in competition. And we're in entertainment. It's so hard not to compare yourself, obviously. But, like, I'm kind of, like, am I better than I was yesterday? Like, am I pride or something that I'm putting out? Like, I try really hard to, like, just be in my own world in that sense, you know?

Yeah. But it's a skill. It's a good thing that you can train and I've gotten better at it. But it's hard. Like, you know, how do you feel about that? About internal validation? Yeah. I'm pretty good at it, I think.

Good. Yeah. Why do you think that is? Um, I don't know. I really don't know. I just have a, I feel pretty, I just feel pretty good about myself most of the time. Were you always like that? Like, do you feel like it's, because I think I, I kind of blame my parents a little bit in how they raised me.

But do you feel like your parents were setting you up to win in that way? My mom. Yeah, for sure. My mom definitely always complimented me and complimented me on things that, yeah, my mom always, my mom did a very good job at parenting in that way. Like, I definitely got a lot of confidence from her love.

But also, I think really the biggest challenge for me was like, I relate a lot in obviously a different way to what you're talking about, like growing up and feeling like very undesirable and like very different. Just growing up fat is such a nightmare. And being fat in general is such a nightmare. I still have to fend off so many, like,

disparate ideas about like I see I I when I would read about myself online I would see so many things about like especially when this podcast started and I would talk about my sex life I would see so many things about people being like how long are we gonna let this guy like pretend

that he gets laid like whoa and it actually made it used to make me mad but then it started to make me sad because I'm like oh you just actually don't think that fat people have like any value and it's crazy because I'm like I don't know that person but I would bet dollar to dollar that if you put me in a room with them, I would,

every single thing about me would outshine them. Absolutely. And I'm like, yeah, but you just don't, because I'm a fat person, you can't see why someone would be attracted to me. And yet, you're the type of person who behaves like that online. Precisely.

Like, I guarantee I would fucking dog walk you in every social interaction. And that's fine. But it just makes me, I'm like, oh, that's such an interesting and like limited view of the world. But it's also one that I internalized for so long. And so I think in like my mid,

mid, like early mid-20s, like getting over that and being like, oh yeah, there's people that feel that way, but there's a bunch of people that don't. Yeah. And actually I'm holding myself back by like internalizing so much of it. Doing that work really set me on a path

to just being like, oh, it really doesn't matter what anyone thinks about me or what I'm doing. Right. I know the truth. Yes. I know about me. Precisely. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. It's like there will always be plenty of people that think I'm, whatever. Especially as you, if your profile grows and you become bigger, at your job. Like, there are always people that think I'm unattractive, the thing I'm unfunny, that think I'm annoying,

that decide I'm mean, that think I'm whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. It doesn't fucking matter. Yeah, what other people think of you is none of your business. It just doesn't matter. I tell that to myself all the time,

you know? As long as, like, the people who I love, like, as long as they fuck with me, that's it. I don't care. Yeah. I really don't care. Yeah.

And that's like freeing. It's really liberating. It's great. To let go like that. Yeah, and it's like the people that, yeah, the people that I care about. There are plenty of people in my life who could tell me something about me

and I would receive it. Yeah. If they're like, oh, you've been X, Y, or Z lately. I would hear feedback from people that I love. Yeah. But really, if you're not in my inner circle, I don't give a fuck what you think about me. It doesn't matter.

You've been, like, kind of too high at the taco shop recently. I got too high at the Taco Shop. I just want to tell you. The tagger shop staff giving me feedback. Yeah. Hey, when you come in here, too stone, like, it's not a cute look.

You're being weird. You're being weird. You're putting too much emphasis on enchilada. There's not that many A's in enchilada. And they're like, hey man. No, they love me over there. They love you. They're the only people that matter to me.

That's it. That's your inner circle. My friends, family, and people at the taco shop. That's it. Those are the only people that can get to me. And that's love is love. Yeah, love is loving. Love wins.

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Well, someone's got to suffer. Someone's got to squeeze. It's your... It's them. Capitalism is so beautiful. I've always said that. I don't feel bad about it for a second. You and Bezos.

I used to be like them. Used to tolerate, but now... I used to be a worker. Now, what is this? Black power first? Now I exploit. This is worker power. This is hard to tell you.

Black powers on this one. Oh, okay, got it. Yeah. No, no, they're fine. They're fine. They're safe. Yeah. They're treated well.

They're fine, they're safe. Why are all the doors locked? Why are they crying? So they can get out. They're crying because they're weak. Oh. No. Everyone, everyone here's good.

Well, everyone, will you guys just say really quick that you're good? I'm great. I'm great. Michelle, just loudly. They all did SOS with their eyes when they blinked. They all did SOS. I saw that. Oh, no.

Being a business mogul is hard. You know. I run a business. You have an empire. My little empire. Your little empire? Your little empire? My cute little empire.

Oh, my God. Yeah. I still get sad about that. You put a college there, right? Yeah, I did a college. I met Tara. She's the best. Tara's so fucking cool.

Isn't she the coolest? I met her and I was like, this girl dresses so well. Let's just start there. Like first view, right? Yeah. Beautiful. Incredible politics.

She's so brilliant. You know, she's been on the pod. Oh my God, yes. And I loved that. I've actually shared that clip around the one where you're, you guys talked about how they, what was it? They gathered,

they united people on housing issues, not because there were like people who voted for Trump in the building, people who voted for, you know, whatever and they united on one issue and they were able to not I think it was like not raise the rent in the building or something like that trailer park being displaced to build a jail

which is fucking hilarious it's like on the nose like evil yeah that sounds like a lifetime movie that's crazy true and yeah organized that clip was just so beautiful and I think I've even sent that to my brother I was like this is how like we need we are more like than different we have a similar class is the thing that's the most uniting thing

housing issues are uniting like cost of living is uniting like that is so brilliant of a method and I just loved it. I loved that you had her on the pod and I thought that was really fucking cool. She's genius. Tara has like completely, uh, she would hate me saying this. Tara and the tenant union have like completely changed my outlook on politics. That's incredible. And it's because of Tara's organizing. Tara organized me into that. She's totally brilliant. Yeah. And I was so excited for you guys to meet. I think she's so fucking cool. I'll have to see a badass brown bitch, you know? She's doing that shit. Yeah, well, you guys accuse me of racism when I introduced

to you. That sounds about right. Yeah. And um, where we were I introduced you. I was like, you guys should know each other like two people I love and you're in my city and then they're like, oh, so because we're brown and I was like guys. Wait, she's moving here, right? I think she hit me up.

Okay, yeah, I need to hit her up to hang. She's here. She was actually supposed to, you know what, she was supposed to call me last night. And she didn't. Should we be mean to her? Yeah. Let's give her a call on the pod. This is one of my new favorite things is confronting people on the podcast.

Tara? Tara. Tara, where are you at? Tarra. And also her home is so beautifully decorated as well. I took photos of the room I stayed and not to be weird. It goes a great, she throws a great dinner party too. I believe that.

That's like a woman, you know what I mean? It's like a grown-ass woman. She's a grown-ass woman. She's a grown-ass woman. Hello, sir. Hi, baby. I'm on the podcast with Serrani. Hi, Dara.

Hi. Oh, my gosh. Hi, guys. What the hell is up? We were just calling because you never got a hold of me last night and I was wondering what happened. Oh, that's so interesting because I told. told you exactly I was having dinner

and you didn't tell me where you wanted to meet. Oh. Love you girl. I gotta go by. But not. No. Wow. So you're avoidant and anxious. Got it. That was crazy. She tried to spin it. She's a professional politician. She's a fucking

spin doctor. You walking back all the things you loved about her? She's a fucking hack. It was crazy. She's a hack and a spin doctor in a charlatan. And a vixen. No good dirty brown girl. Say it. Don't listen to it.

That's a stone too far. I won't do that bit. That's so funny. I have values. That's so cute. Yeah, she can't be believed. She can't be believed. Totally.

Serrani, what's so true to you? Let me turn this. I'm hearing noises. You got noises over there? My calendar, sorry. What's going on to your calendar? I have you on airplane mode, but I just keep getting calendar notifications. Serenie, what's so true to you?

I think that, I think that kids of, Sheltered families make the best actors. Whoa. Because you have to lie to do anything. Yeah. Like, yeah, I was lying all the time.

Is this, is this, I feel like you were probably, you were running rampant, I could tell. No, no, no, no,

I was a little sheltered. Yeah, a little bit. But like, you have to lie to like, like, for example, like, I would leave the home and I'd be wearing

my, like, nice conservative clothing and then I would, like, say, buy her to my mom and then I would go to school, and I'd change it to my hoochie shorts. No.

You know what I mean? Like, is that like a related? Is this a canon event? Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. Where it's like you have to do it. Or I made up a whole debate club that didn't even exist in my high school so that I could smoke weed in the Home Depot parking lot.

Sorry, Mom, if you're seeing this. Oh, she's watching. She's watching for sure. That girl is talking to me. She's a K-lesbian. What she say? She's a K-lesbian. A K-lebsian?

She's a K-leberti, K-lesbian? These are my fan names. K-lesbian. Yeah, they're locked in over there. That's really cute. And the K-Latina's. Shout out, you guys. Shout out.

What's up foos? Okay. Serrini. We're leaving that in. Take that out. Take that out. I grew up and standing and go, Viva la lasso. Okay.

What else? Like, just, yeah, or like when I would be like hanging out with boys or something and I would sometimes be like, I would tell my mom like they're like age athia, which in our language means like that kind of person, which means they're gay. Or like, you know, just, I'd just be lying left and right. Like, you have to do that to, like, experience freedom. And because my parents were so afraid of everything. They kept me, like, really locked in. And, like, I grew really sheltered. When I went to college, I loki had, like, agoraphobia.

Like, I just was so, you know, but I just lied so much. And I think that, like, I feel like any kid of, like, a sheltered household, like, I'm speaking of brown girls, obviously, but just anyone who comes from a sheltered home, like, you are just going to be better at lying. Like, the kid who, the kid whose parents who were like, if you're going to drink, you're going to drink in my. basement, they're fucking working HR. You know what I mean?

They're ice agents. They're doing whatever the fuck. You know what I mean? They're not. They're not. They're fucking ice agents. You know what I mean? They're not.

Is this take feeling anything for you? Oh, this take is huge for me. So tell me about, did you have to lie a lot as a kid? No, I grew up sheltered. Like as a kid, I didn't know a lot because I just grew up in a very like quiet, homogenous town. And so I was sheltered but not conservative. Like in high school and stuff, my mom was like,

you can drink but don't get behind the wheel call me if you need a ride. My mom wasn't, I didn't have to lie to her to do anything I wanted to do so that's a difference. See, that's white culture, baby. That is white culture. I'm so jealous of white culture like that way. Really? Yeah. It was pretty cool. The parents were like, yeah, if you want to do something like, do it on. That's actually harm reduction. It's actually safer.

My mom was not a dude at the house person though. I will say. She was like, do not drink in my house. She's a nurse. But I'm here if you need it. But she was like, you go drink where you drink and you call me if you need a ride. And there were times where nobody was sober to drive and I did call my mom. Because I was like, I'm not getting in a fucking drunk driver's car. That's so cool. Yeah, it was sick.

My mom and I had an understanding. When I asked her about weed, I was like, did you ever smoke weed? She was like, yeah, it made me hungry and tired. Like, do it if you want, but I didn't think it was interesting. And I didn't smoke weed until I was 27. See, that's the point. That is how it should be. I think it, yeah, I definitely, here's the deal, though.

It doesn't work the same for every kid. Like, she raised my brother that way and he turned into a fucking criminal nightmare menace. Oh. And I want to hear more. Turned out really well. Oh, everything. Well, that's up to debate. Book every long.

I turned out great. Well, she would think I turned out great. Yeah, yeah, well, relatively speaking. Yeah, yeah, relatively speaking. Lives in a house that she doesn't pay for it. Oh, hot dignity. Okay, cool, got it. Yeah.

But the thing is, I think that's the thing is, like, as a parent, you kind of just pick a method and hope it works. Yeah. And you don't know. That's true. It's like, hindsight's 20-20. I was really like, I see this a lot with, like, Asian kids who they just, like, go buck wild when they go to college.

Like, they go ape shit. because that is like the first ounce of freedom that they have. And like me too, I was crazy, you know? Because I just wanted to like do what the American kids were doing, you know? Yeah. Where'd you go to college? I went to UC Berkeley, but I did not like it. I dropped out.

I found comedy when I was in college, and that's when I started kind of exploring that. Yeah. And like, I was having kind of a tough time with my family and like dealing with mental health and stuff. And it was just like a tumultuous time. And then actually never went back to school. Yeah. Yeah. Who needs it?

I mean, not us. We're doing a podcast. I'm saying. I have a degree for nothing. Where did you go? I went to Missouri State. Hell yeah. I got a degree in sociopolitical communication.

Oh. Don't use it. Hell yeah. We're communicating right now. We're communicating. I use my degree in terms of like things. I learned how to like, I learned skills in college. Sure.

I learned how to like meet a deadline and like socialize and like be on time and like network. Like I learned things. But I don't. It's very rare that I like turn back to specific coursework. I agree. And I'm like, oh, this lesson that we learned. Right, right. Sometimes.

Yeah. There was like some, I did, when I started, found comedy, I started doing like, acting classes, directing classes, writing class like that some stuff has helped and stuff. But like, I agree. It's mostly the stuff outside of the campus that has been beneficial. Or, like, being independent or, like, having a safety net to be independent, you know. Yeah, and friends. And friends. Friends was a big part of it.

Yeah. For me. Wait, if you weren't doing comedy, what do you think you'd be doing? I have authority problems like you. Oh, I can't. You can't tell me to do anything. I have mad authority problems as well. Yeah.

I think I'd be a business owner of some sort for sure. I've thought about this I'm like if I you know when I quit comedy Um It's like maybe I don't know Like I could see where I run like a I don't know Like a

Like a maybe I've run events Yeah Maybe I don't know Actually Loki want to be like a florist I love gardening You'd be a gray forest I love plants I love gardening I love green shit

And maybe I do something like that I don't know You'd fuck it up at stone fruit Thank you brother Stonefruit on Bedford, they'd love to have you. Stonefruit on Bedford. The girl's in there. It seems so zen.

They're just... Right? How nice. I mean, charge like 3,000 for that bitch. They charge. You know what I mean? They charge. I just feel like that seems like a simpler.

What would you be doing if you weren't doing this? Oh, if I wasn't doing this... Oh, I'd probably be dead by now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that, for sure. I would be dead. Comedy saved me.

Yeah, for sure. Oh, I should be dead for sure. Yeah, for sure would have jumped. I didn't think I get this far. And now I'm kind of like, well, now I'm here. Same. weird feeling. My whole life, I could never picture myself older than like 23.

Yeah. And then like my whole childhood. And then I got through that. And then now every kind of week I'm like, huh, we're still doing this. Yeah. I was that kid who like romanticized like the 27 club. Oh. Like I'm not supposed to be here.

Yeah. I should be gone. I'm supposed to be like, I was supposed to be my Amy Winehouse bag. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just get addicted to heroin. How many people do you think, I just, I don't, I don't think. I just, I don't think I conceptualized as a kid.

No adult told me like, oh yeah, I didn't think I was going to live older than 25 and now I'm alive and I'm just kind of winging it every day. It's like a common experience I've heard. A lot of people say. But if an adult would have told me that, I feel like I would have felt so much better. Yeah. No one told me that. So anyway, oh wait, you want to play a game?

Okay, let's play a game. Okay, let's play a game. I'm scared. Okay. I'm going to read you 15 statements. Oh my God, okay. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can. if what I just said was true or false.

If you get 10 or more correct, we're going to give you 50 U.S. dollars. Wow. Huge. Cool. What forms? Vizel, Venmo. Someone else handles that, honey. I don't know how that stuff goes.

One of the straights. One of the heterosexual people deals with that. Right. Right. Are you ready? Yeah. A cube has 12 edges. Wait, it's true or false?

Sorry. It's true or false. Okay. A cube. Say a thing I want me to do? A cube has 12 edges. False. True.

Electrons are smaller than protons. Ooh, true. True. The American Civil War. ended in 1865. I feel so dumb. False. True.

All mammals give live birth. True. False. East Lake High School's yearbook is the Titan. True. Wait, wait, wait. The yearbook is the Titan? You mean the logo or like the mascot?

East Lake High School's yearbook is the Titan. Yearbook? Yes. What is... I think they're meant to say false. Because the mascot. It's not uncommon for a yearbook to also be names. Okay, so then true.

What's your answer? True. Okay. False. You fucking. Oh, shit. That was a fun one. Okay.

The main gas in Mars's atmosphere is carbon dioxide. True. It's true. Coal was formed from compressed dinosaur remains. True. False. True. What's your answer?

True. False. It's plants. Saved by the bell, we're in for four seasons. False. True. Dell computers are no longer in production. What heaters?

Dell computers. Are no longer in production? Are no longer in production. False. That is false. UC Berkeley's motto is for them all. My comedy. No.

False. It's let there be light. I didn't know that. Mary Shelley wrote Animal farm. False. It's George Orwell. The CN Tower is in Toronto. Toronto. Sorry guys.

CN Tower. The CN Tower's in Toronto. True. True. Ostrishes are the fastest land animal. False. It's cheetahs. One is not a prime number. Wait, prime is where you can divide, right? No, or is where you can't divide. Fuck. I was not a STEM person.

Wait, one is not a prime number. not a prime number. False. It's true. Red tomato pizza house is closed on Sundays. Who research this? Red tomato house is not open on Sundays. True.

That is true. How'd she do? Eight. Wow. Out of what? Out of 15. So how many did I have to get? You needed to get 10 or more.

10? Yeah. I did pretty good. Yeah. I feel actually really good. Internal validation, look at that. Yeah. I'm really proud of myself when I went to do back there.

Yeah, you did good. You did good. Yeah. It was good. I don't believe you. No, it was good. It was good. Yeah.

It felt worse than it was somehow. I thought it felt good. I was looking like, I'm killing this right now. I'm killing this. Okay. No, it's good. And you're getting paid regardless. Don't worry about it.

Oh, I'm good. Money's coming. I think you should pay your team first. Money's coming. They are not getting paid. you will get paid. No, I don't pay them. They don't do valuable work.

They look malnourished. Yeah. What else do you want to tell the people? Anything you want to leave everybody with? Or like something to plug, is that what you're saying? Well, sure. Tell them where they can find you. What you want to plug?

Words of wisdom. Oh, damn. That's a lot of things. Okay. You know, get you a therapist that you really love. That's beautiful. Yeah. My person is Lando, this non-binary, immigrant, person, who I love.

Older, younger? We've been cooking, older. I don't know, just, you know, hang with your friends, show love to one other, eat some good food, you know, get some lob. Go to Holy, H-O-L-I. I am on social media. My Instagram is Sereni, S-R-E-N-I. TikTok is Serenic comedy. Come to a show.

I'll be on tour later this year. working on a show right now. It's called lunch lady. Carly's working on it too. It's where I cook with older women across New York City. And I'm trying to get to every country. It's called lunch lady because my mom's a lunch lady and she's retiring next year. And it's kind of an ode to her, but it's, you know, people tend to infantilize or desexualized older women, but they're out here

fucking. They're out here doing their shit. They're living their life and I'm excited. It's like a little project I'm working on. Oh, yeah. It's like, it's really vulnerable to start a project. Yeah. I don't do that often. It's like I feel like I've been part of many people's projects, but it's vulnerable to like start something, you know? And if it goes bad, it goes bad. I'm proud of myself regardless. Yeah. I'm pretty too. It is scary. Yeah. It's really scary. And I'm having a lot of fun.

Like this is my year of collaboration. Like I want to collaborate people and like work with friends and like just like laugh a lot. And I feel like I don't my life's good. I really, I love my life. Yeah. I love that. Well, it was a great episode. Thanks for doing it. Thanks for having me.