So True with Caleb Hearon - Sydnee Washington Returns

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

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Wave. I've had them done twice, and I am obsessed with the idea of, you know, you want to upgrade yourself. You want to do a little... What you have done to them? Bigger both times? Yes. Okay. Yes.

And I'm, I think, if I get another gig, I'm going to get them done again. I don't know. First of all, you know, there's always something with me. Yes. There's always something. I do know this. And so I said, when I come back on your podcast, I want to be. like well adjusted. I want my life in order and we're not there yet. No, we're not there yet. No,

what's going on? Well, the thing is, is that I'm in a relationship, things are good, comedy is going well. Yeah. But I feel like I want to move towards an adult, like when I want to be an adult and I'm not. Like, I eat candy in the morning. I'm drinking, I'm smashing a red bull every other day. I eat candy in the morning. I eat candy in the morning. I eat candy in the the morning. You thought I was going to be like, I'm doing crack. You're like, no. Because I got to tell you, even when you were saying, I'm not doing well, I'm like,

Sid, you live in a beautiful apartment. I do. You have a lovely admirable relationship. You're getting up constantly. I have never seen you turn up to any function, the smallest function, an apartment hang out on my couch where the entire point is to get high and eat snacks. You have never not showed up full beat, hair, outfit. So I don't, when you say your life's not together, I'm like, keep in mind,

you're more together than I am. And so I'm wondering what the hell you're talking about. But then the candy in the morning, obviously. I'd like you off the Red Bull. I'd like you off candy in the morning, of course. Please, please. It's just, but Lisa Trager, you know, we love her. She's like, you got to have advice.

She's like, you don't drink, you don't smoke. You're not committing crimes. What is a little candy in the morning? What is, you know, a Red Bull at 9 p.m.? And I said, Lisa's got a point. She kind of does. She's got a point. This is one of those moments where we got to hand it to Lisa.

We got to give it to Lisa. You're like, you know what? You're making sense. Yeah. So, but I want to move towards, because, you know, I'm getting older. And you were just telling me about going to the doctor. And I'm like, I really need to take that seriously. My friend Kevin, Kevin Morby, who has been on the show, he gave me some of the best

advice. And I really have taken it to heart. Okay. He said after 30, the first time something feels off, anytime something feels off, go to the doctor. Just immediately do it. And nothing feels off. I'm going just preventatively.

Like, I'm going just to get stuff run because I'm having a weird kind of re-flare-up of my old hypochondria that I had kicked. But just the, anytime something feels off, just go. If you have,

if you have, if you have a privilege, if you have health insurance and stuff. I was like, but I'm saying if you have that option, and even if it's like, it's going to cost you a little bit, but you technically could do it.

And of course, if you're listening and you don't have health insurance, I send all my love, and I feel bad that I said the thing, but this is for people who do have health insurance. Okay, but look at this. This is what really messes me up, right?

So obviously, I'm mentally ill. I have ADHD, anxiety, depression, whatever. And so I need to get my insurance through WGA, right? In order to do that, you got to get on the phone. And I get on the phone, they got me on the hold. They got me on hold. They said, I got to do this, I got to do that. By the time I get to the person who's actually going to start my insurance up,

I didn't already hung up and took a nap. Sid, here's what we're going to do. Yeah. I am sending this out to everybody. Everybody who's listening, I'm sitting this out over the airwaves to you. Yes. We need to start leaning on our friends, even when we feel like it's not warranted. What you need to do is, if that's something that needs to get done,

and you know I am not going to sit on that phone, you need to call me, you need to call Lisa, you need to call Marie, call somebody and be like, do you have two hours this week to come and sit with me and hold my hand while we do this? They do not. They do not. I do. Okay. I will make two hours. Well, you got to take the D&D off.

Okay. Text. Text. Don't play games with me. No, and don't you guys laugh at it either. No, you don't say you don't laugh at it. You got to say, you don't laugh at it. No, I'll come over.

I'll come over. Okay. We'll get it sorted. We'll get it sorted. We'll get it done. We'll get it done. If this is the thing, it is the thing. We'll get it sorted.

It is. And then after that, and then when I do get their insurance and I go to the doctor and everything is in order, I will still find a way to be like, you know what? It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. But you're doing, I think you're doing really well.

I am. I feel like you're in a much better place than a couple years ago. When I came the first time to So True, I was fresh off a breakup. I just left L.A. I was talking shit about everything and everybody. I was like, bring back de Blasio. Like, I was saying anything. I was saying anything.

And I want to apologize for a lot of the things that I said. And now I'm in a good place. I am. Yeah. I am. I really like it. I am. The thing is that the world is on five.

But I'm looking to the little light like you and my friends and you know the dodo I go to the dodo when I just want to get in a better place. What's going on with the dodo? You don't know about the dodo? What's up with the dodo? Come on, you know about the dodo. What are you going to the dodo for? Okay, so they do these videos long-winded, rehabilitating animals.

And so you'll see like a little dog limping and missing an ear. And then all of a sudden, you know, three minutes in, the ear is back. The dog is frolicing. It's got like a, you know, a burberry scar for it. Like, they got a family. Like, it's those things where you see this little thing that is doing bad. Dodo is like, no, there's light at the end of the tunnel. And it reminds me of like, if that could happen, you know, for this beaver, then there's hope for me as well.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And this is a channel of some sort? Yes. Yes. It's on Instagram. It's on TikTok.

It's on YouTube. Yeah, get into it. I really might. Yeah. There's otters, there's capy bar, whatever you want. They got. Owls. There was an owl that was found in a train, and it was overheated, and it came out, and it looked a little wonky.

They were like, this, this owl should be gone, but it's still here, and they're like, he can't really hear or see, but he's alive. Oh, okay. And they got him with another owl that's, like, older and kind of. of it as well. And they're like besties. Of course. Yeah. And they'll try to talk to one of them

and they're just like and I said, I relate to this. It's just disassociating. You put these two fucked up owls together. Yes. They made a beautiful friendship. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah, that's us. Yes, it is us. That's me and you. No, you're way more. That's me and you in a big way. Dude, that reminds me. I hooked up with a guy

a couple weeks ago. Not the, not the owls out of it. You're like, this reminds me somebody of at sex with. It's the video suggestions. Okay, okay. It's the video suggestions.

I hooked up with this guy. We had a fun date, and we went back to his place and hooked up, and he lives in L.A. You should have started with that. I know. Okay. And then yesterday, he sent me a link to a video, and he goes, this made me think of you.

I should have sent it in the moment. This made me think of you the other day. I should have sent it in the moment, but sending it now. And then I click on the link. It's like a 27-minute video essay that's like, what is the meaning of life? And I was thinking back on the date, and I'm like, what did we get into that this made you thinking? Because I'm like, I thought we had a nice time,

but I was like, what did we, what did I put across that made you, and I was happy about getting the video. I liked it. That is the kind of stuff I'm into. I was like a 27-minute video essay. That's the kind of follow-up I'm getting. Well, because, you know, you're very, you're very heady. What is it?

Cerebral. Okay. Is that, that's not the word you are. No, no, I'm just listening. I'm taking this in. I'm taking this in. I feel like you can have really good, deep conversations that it's about, you know, everything and anything.

So I think maybe in the date You kind of trailed off to that Yeah You're very funny but you could get deep Like what else do we have to offer Other than jokes People like to tell me their problems I know that happened on the date

He was telling me some of his problems It's not a date if somebody's not trauma dumping Over the breadsticks You know people are really apologetic when they do that And I go I far prefer this to stupid bullshit Tell me your problems let's get into it Because I've also by the way I've got solutions You are solution oriented

We can fix this up You're a type A person, and I like that. Do you guys think I'm type A? I think you're type A. Okay. I'm getting headaches. The way we were supposed to do, we were supposed to go on a trip, we were supposed to go to New Mexico or Mexico City or something like that. And you had, you know, the Airbnb, the flights, all that stuff.

You were on it. You, the emails. I trust myself. Yes. I trust myself to get things done right. Yeah, well, you also were like, okay, Sydney and Lee's is on a chat. These bitches not doing that. So that was one thing.

You were like, I have to come with a plan because we can't rely on them. So there was that. But also I wanted to say you said that you would never go on a girls trip or something like that. And then I saw you with girls on a trip. What trip? Did you go to Ireland or Scotland? You know what? Dublin.

I was in the same city as some girls. I stayed separate. I stayed separate. I'm not doing the big house with girls anymore. I don't know. I'm not doing the big house with girls anymore. it's over. I love women.

I have a lot of respect for women. I want to shout out all women. Right now I am shouting out all women. Shout out to you girls. Thank you for everything that you do in the world. You can't stay in the same house as me on vacation. It's a mess. Why?

There's attitude problems. There's hair dryers everywhere. There's clothes everywhere. Yes. It's 45 minutes after we said we'd get out the door to get out the door. Just to go to lunch. Just to go to lunch. We're coming back for a nap before we do the evening stuff.

I love women. I have so much. respect for women, we're not staying in the same house on vacation anymore. I'll be in my own hotel room. I will see you with the plans. You know, I hate when you're right. Because you're right. You're fucking right. You really are. And we're too grown. We're too grown. And by the way, I was never going on trips with gay guys. That was so far out of the realm of

possibility. I was never going to go. The gay guy vacations where it's like, we're going to, we're going to Coxock Island and we're going to. Fire Island, you mean? Yeah, well, whatever they call it. Yeah, we're going to Coxuck Island and we're all going to stay in a 25-person house and everyone's bringing K. Yes.

I was never involved in that. So I was willing to trust women due to my massive respect for them. And then I lived with some of them on trips and I said, it's a different situation. It's the thing is when we all come together, right? That's where it becomes a mess. If you do one-on-one,

and me and you went on a trip, you can deal with one mess. Yes. Six messes, that's too much. Me and my friend Ali can go on trips together. that we can stay in the same place. One woman at a time. I'm a one woman at a time guy.

I'm very conservative. You would be an amazing as a straight guy. Oh, God. Amazing. I know it. Why don't you do it? I know it because I, you know, there's varying responses when I say this kind of stuff, but I'm not attracted to women and that upsets people.

They get really upset. I don't want to have sex with women. Why? Do I not want to have sex with women? Yeah. I can't get hard about it. Yeah, it just doesn't make me hard at all. answer. Okay. It doesn't make me hard at all.

Which I have in common with a lot of straight guys I've learned. To hear my girls tell it, I'm not the only guy feeling that way. I mean, the thing is, I mean, what is hard, you know? What is what? Say that. Say that.

I feel like we're so in a time where everything is like so sexual. Like we gotta fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. We gotta be with all these people. And it's just like, I'm done. I've did all that. I'm, I've juiced that out. And so it's no longer about the, oh, fuck, thing, fuck. It's like, what do we have together?

I'm trying to get to where you are. If we can't have sex, then what? Yeah. How do you satisfy me, not even just like mentally, just like existence? How do we be together and I'm content? You and I've actually come to your house, and if I could just be in a corner on the couch scrolling and you somewhere, you know, doing what you do on the phone, you know, your meetings and whatnot, I could do that. all day. I could literally do that all and feel like we had a solid day.

I have that with all my friends. It's the romance part of it that becomes troublesome. See, that's why you got to look, you got to look in and say that could be romantic. Yeah. Yeah, because that's what I do with my girlfriend. That's what I do. She'll be on the phone working or whatnot, and I'll be scrolling. I'm like, damn, this is, who, I love this relationship. Yeah. You know, and then occasionally, you know, we have sex. And I'm like, this is as well. Occasionally. But if we don't, occasionally, yes, yes.

Hey, you guys talk about you got to have sex three times a week. You're not working enough. You got a lot of time on your hands. You're having sex three times a week. Somebody's unemployed. Somebody's got a lot of free time. Somebody's not doing enough Sudoku. You having sex three times a week.

Yeah. Having sex five times. And one night, bitch, you are not dehydrated. I am. I'm not doing five times. You got to, first of all. I'm doing one time we're good. Sydney can't be having sex five times a night.

She has candy to eat in the morning. Exactly. She's got to get up and go to the candy store. Yo, you never just like finish having sex and then there's just like some sour powers right now. You're like something to take the edge off. Come on. Come on. Some of those little rips, sour candies, just straight to the dome.

Straight to the dome. Listen, I just got my teeth in order. You know, a lot of cavities have been filled. I have Envisaline. I shouldn't even be fucking with candy. But I'm like, again, I need something. I need a vibe. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't care about sex, so it's like, I need the candy, I need the riddle. Don't care about sex. This is crazy to say on such a wide platform. Yeah. But can you get to the point where you've exhausted all of the sexual things you could possibly do that you're at a place where like, yeah, I did that. I'm trying desperately. I do think I'm getting close. I will say there's been a shift in the last three years where, like, there are times that I'm, like, kind of horny and someone cute is messaging me and, like, willing to come up.

over at the moment. And in the past, I would have dropped everything. I stayed up until three in the morning, even though I had to be up at five. I'd do anything. And now I'm just like, there's something that has shifted, but I'm not fully where I want to be. I'd like to get to complete asexuality. That's where you want to get to.

That would be ideal. Don't you think life would be amazing? I think you take it too far. Okay. But no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, shay to the asexuals out. Hey, I love to A. Yeah. But no, I, I, I, I, shout out to the A, but, I mean, being intimate, there's

something about that that is also beautiful, but the way that they've ran through this, like, sexual talk, the talk you through it, the, oh, let me spit in your mouth. Like, all of this saying out loud, it's kind of giving me to ick. Like, I don't even, I don't even really do dirty talk no more. Really?

I like silence. Oh, nothing? Hearing nothing? Oh, I'm wet. Slip off the bed. Nothingness is amazing. Just like, because, Sometimes somebody will talk too much and you're like, actually, let me call a car.

Let me get up out of here. See, I can't do no talking. But you talk for a living, Caleb. Aren't you exhausted? People are talking to you because you got to hear everybody's thoughts. Yeah. I mean, is your phone bricked up? No, I got the Android.

Okay, you got the Android. I got the Android. Well, you're close to brick. It changed everything. It changed everything. The green bubbles. Android is great. The green bubbles.

People are not texting me. People are emailing me. and saying, I think your number changed. I wanted to ask you about this. And I go, that's perfect. Keep it in the email. I love that. Don't, do not be texting me unless you're a very dear friend.

Yeah, I think that because I hear all these opinions and I'm seeing all the content and everybody's got a show, everything's create. It literally has taken, you know, all the fun out of things that just hearing nothing is actually exciting. Yeah. To sit in silent. You ever, like, go to a restaurant and you're just sitting there eating, and people are just eating and they're not. So, well, how was the day?

They're talking about work. Like, just not hearing that? Yeah. You're like, the food tastes better. Yeah. The bartender is actually, you could just hear the jigger and the shaking. You're like, oh, that's music to my ears. Yeah.

But I don't know. Maybe it's just me. Maybe my antidepressants is just too damn high. I think I might have to go down. I'm really happy with the way. I might have to go down on it. The things you're saying are making me very happy. Really?

Yeah, I'm happy for you. Do you know what I can't shake in my mind right now? What? Earlier when you asked if I was type A, the only person that didn't shake their head, yes, was Michelle. And that's completely fine except for Michelle text me yesterday. Okay. Michelle texted me yesterday.

Sent me a link to an article. Okay. Hold on. The article was headlined. She sent me a link to a New York Times article. The article was headlined, Celebrity Assistance exists to indulge their bosses, but when does duty cross a line?

Ooh. And really, really sent that to me. Is that passive, aggressive? People don't respect me. I mean, you know, it's really, it's really, really interesting. Yeah, Michelle. Yeah. So what you've been telling your mom?

Right. Yes! That's what I said. I wasn't going to bring mom into it because I don't know the comfort level. That's a great question. Mom loves Caleb, like huge fan. Oh, the moms love you. Down.

She's just like classic mom who sends me like, crazy articles, like when she sees even a single word that relates to my life. But she saw assistant, and she was like, perfect, perfect articles. Celebrity and assistant, she said, this has to pertain to... When does duty cross the line? When does duty cross the line?

Sent me. Hold on, Caleb, I just want... We do respect you, right? But there's something about your aura that just gets us too comfortable. Yeah. Where it's like, I could see you in an authoritative, like, manor, but I'm also like,

but he's got his knees out. Like you can't tell me what to do when I can see your calves. That's what's happening with all of these guys over here. I don't know. I will wear anything to start getting some respect. It's really crazy.

Slacks. I want to see some business. I will wear a fucking three-piece suit if that's what it takes. And also, I'm glad that you brought this up about not being taken seriously. Me too. What's going on?

Okay. So I'm here for the pivot. Because I, people say that they like, everybody likes me. Oh, you're everybody's friend. You're so nice. You're so... It's true. I want to shut it down. Why? I'm ready to just do... I want to be a... I want to be a bick.

Not bitch, but bick. I want to be the B-I-C in bitch. Why is that? Oh, wait, did I spell it right? No, it's B-I-T. The T comes first, but you don't want to be the bit. You don't want to be the bit. Because then what are you? Once again, a joke. Let's be the BIC. Let's be the BIC. The lighter brand. I want to get things going. This is so on-brand for me, that.

I can't like I am the comedy. It just comes out. Yeah. And I don't even try. Yeah. But no, I'm actually tired of being taken for granted or people just know that I'm going to show up and I'm going to be supportive. And I'm going to repost and comment. I got to stop all that.

I got to shut it down. I got to start creating boundaries and I got to make people miss me and be like, oh, maybe she won't. Maybe she got something else to do. Yeah. I need to do that. Why? What consequence are you facing? You know, I, you do know, you do know that.

that we have a lot of mutual friends, a lot of people in the industry. And I do think that when people think that you're always going to show, they just, they don't, they're not as appreciative of your support. They're like, well, you know, you always here. You know, you always going to swing by. Oh, reliable Sydney. Yeah.

Yeah. And I want to, I actually, no, I can't make it to your birthday, bitch. No, I can't, I can't make it to your wedding. I won't be there. I just won't, no, I can't. Yeah. But there is a wedding I got in my, I am going to go. I just, I'm type B.

and I haven't responded yet, but I'm going to RSVP. Yeah. Yeah. But I want someone to wonder what else could I possibly be doing? Yeah. To not show up to your shit. I like that. Yeah, I need that.

I like this error for you. Yeah, because we... Don't do it to me. No, no, no, I would never. I would never. But I do think because we always have our phones and the part of fools and the, you know, everybody is just, like, have all this access. We have lost the wonder of, like, are they coming?

Like, will I see them? Yeah. That feeling of, I wonder, Caleb is coming to my birthday. Like, you came, you showed up. I was, like, genuinely so happy to see you. And I think that's lost in the, oh, I know these people are coming, you know? Let me ask these random friend of a friend to come and then be more excited to see.

You don't even know this bitch's middle name. Like, why are you so, ah, so happy to see, you know? Yeah. I want to feel that. when I see a friend that, yeah, I just saw you yesterday. But I'm here. I'm here for your taping. I'm not talking about Marie, but I'm just talking about it in general.

Not Marie. Okay, yeah, Marie, show me love all the time. This is why I'm telling everybody all the time. Maybe. I'll try. I'll try to be there. I'm hoping to come by. Because that's the thing is, I don't really know.

And I don't want to have this thing where, like, we speak in such certainty. Yes. They're like, I will be there. I wouldn't miss it for the world. And then that's the shit that causes these, like, you get 10 texts right before the event being like, I know I said I would come. but I got hit by a bicycle, and then it's pictures of the injury

so that you know they're not making it up. I'm like, I don't want to participate in that. I don't need to know. I trust. If you are in the mood to be at the thing you said you would be at and you said you would come, that's cool. But if not, you really don't need to, like, provide evidence and, like, a court filing to me.

It's all good. Do your thing. I think that we also need to be okay with people saying, I'm not coming. Yeah. I'm not coming. I don't need a reason. I'm not coming.

I can't make it. Yeah. But people are scared to say that. People are upset to hear it. And I just want to get in a better place where I'm not feeling bad for, like, actually, I just don't want to fucking go. Do you know how many times I've dragged myself to things where, like, my eye is kind of pink, and my wig is flipped, and my toe is dead, and my belly button is falling out. And I'm there. I'm there in the audience hearing somebody say the same jokes that I didn't heard.

But they need me there. They need my support because I am a cheerleader and I'm like, well, I need to be in bed. Yeah. Yeah, my friend Amina Amani, she always is like, Sydney, it is okay to say no, it's okay for you not to be there. They will live. And I said, you know what?

I want to get more into that. You know, I will say you and Marie and Mateo and Lisa like our whole little crew of buddies, y'all are present. We show up. You all show up. Yeah. I'm very, I'm like, I really. I'm impressed by you guys in trying to,

I'm trying all the time to be on the level and be as good of a friend to y'all as y'all are to everybody because I'm like, y'all really show up in a way that's crazy. Well, I'm not cool with my family, so. First of all. Let's say that. Because if I had family,

oh, y'all bitches wouldn't see me. Like, I just, if I had family that I fucked with, oh, babe. I wouldn't be at anything. I would, the part of full, blot. Like, I would not be going to nothing. But because my friends are my village and everything, I want people to know that, like, this love is real. Like, if I could give you a kidney, I would.

I don't suggest you have it, but I would give it up because that is what it's about. I think we're so also lost in the internet of everything and commodifying everything that you don't know what's real, what's fake, what's like endearing. And so when I see my friends, I'm like, hey, I might not pull. a picture of you, but you know, we locked in. Yeah. That's why I'm trying to get better at sit. When I say, I'm not coming and I don't want to give you the reasons. I'm talking about people that, I'm talking about fringe people that I'm like, I'm trying

to make more space for the people I really need to show up for. Yeah. I need to show up for the people who have showed up for me, my good, good, dear friends and loved ones. I need to make more space for those people. And so, unfortunately, it means that someone that I barely know that I like well enough. No, I can't, I can't come to your, I don't know, like trivia. for your cousin's work party or whatever.

And I envy people who can make time for that, but I'm not going to be the guy. Because I got to show up for my people. That used to be me. Yeah? But I want to know what are ways that people can show up that is not just like physical? Because maybe we need to get people other options.

Yeah. Like if you can't make it, you know, Vimmo me $50. You know, I bought snacks thinking you were going to, I got all this food thinking y'all were coming. Send me some money. Yeah. I did.

I had to, because of Trash Mountain in the filming schedule last year, I had to miss one of my best friend from childhood's wedding. Like, just no way around it. Because I'm the lead of the movie and we can't reschedule the shooting schedule because we have no money. And I was just like, girl, I love you, but there's simply nothing I can do. And I dropped a fat fucking check on the honeymoon fund. Like a stack. Wow. Because I was like, that to me doesn't replace my missing the wedding.

I feel horrible about it But when she got that This is what I can do You know what baby This is what I can do You can't make it to the baby shower And that's okay I'm good with that too

Yeah So I do think there's ways to show Like remorse and participation For when you can't be there The way you want to be But it doesn't replace It's like of course We would have both rather I'd just be there

Yeah I mean Getting back into like My family stuff It's just like You know I grew up in a very like not a nuclear

home. A nuclear home. I grew with my great aunt and uncles. And so already I'm not with like my mom, my dad, my sister, my brother. And the way that they raised me is just like family is everything. Family is everything. And so to be

the opposite of where I am like friends are everything, my mind totally flipped. And I forget that friends could just cut you off at any moment. they don't want to be your friend anymore, that's done. Family, family is forever. Yeah. Like my brother, my sister, they text me and I'm like, we are related.

Yeah. I guess I do need to respond or call you back. Also, we don't do friendship in that way. None of our inner friends would just drop us at any moment. You think your inner, you think Marie, Mateo, Lisa, me, Amina, you think any of us would just be like, no, we're done with Sydney. No, no, no. I wouldn't let them.

Oh, I'm supposed to love, baby. We what? None of us would do that. That's crazy. But I do, I do have, like, some relationships that kind of just drifted off. And I'm like, I'm surprised they didn't fight for it, you know? Yeah. Like, what is this all about?

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To get involved, text update to 22422. I rather have the friendship than the celebrity, the red carpets, all that stuff, because I've seen it what has done to people. They're miserable. Not you. Not you.

I like to think I'm a little more invested in the friendship. personally. I like to think that's why it's not affecting me that way the way that we've seen it. I mean, we've seen it ruin so many nice good people. Ruin. Just destroy them. Bad. They're so lonely and sad. The brain fried. But it's because they forgot and I don't blame anybody. It's a really insidious thing. It's really, really hard to stop it from destroying you. But they let themselves forget that like the biggest gift of all of this is the people.

The biggest gift of all of this is the friendships that we get to be around the coolest, nicest, funniest people we get to work with the best people who just want to laugh and have fun and make good shit. That is the best part of all this. It's not the fucking parties with people more famous than you. It's not the luxuries of like traveling well. Those things are certainly nice but like you really can't forget that the people are the best part and forsake everything for more money

and more status because that's when it fucking ruins you. The people are the best part. How did you get to where you are, Caleb? How are you doing it? Like, I just, you're still a nice person. You still look out, how do you not get sidetracked and be like, yeah, I'm about to go to Beyonce's party? Like, how do you not be that person? I think it's the same, I guess this isn't true for everybody who experienced this, but it's just growing up so fucking poor. Just growing up so poor.

And just, I just never really forget, like, yeah, this is all crazy. It's a gift to be able to, like, pay my bills and take nice. flights and like go where I to have freedom at all to have freedom really is such a privilege and gift but yeah I just feel like it feels impossible to me it's not impossible actually we've seen it happen I if I just can't imagine how I would lose myself in it I can't imagine it me and Marie went to Soho yesterday and we went to Margella and I said oh yeah no I need to get more money because the way it felt so good to walk up in that bitch and know that your car was not getting declined yeah and then I was looking at these crazy prices.

I was like, yeah, I got that. Yeah. Like, I said, oh, now I see why people embezzle. Now I see why people rob, still, and kill. Yeah. Because I know when we walked in, they was like, who is he? You know, we bouncing off the water. They're like, they ain't buying nothing.

They just hear wasting time. And then, because, you know, we are indecisive. We're trying on this shoe. I'm like, oh, my ankles is ashy. Marie's like, oh, my feet are feet too dry. Like, we were being really silly. Yeah. And then the sales associate realized, I was like,

No, no, no, we're about, we're about to spend some coin in here. And I said, that's what I want to do. I want to do this with my friends. I want to take a trip and us just not think about money because I grew up poor and, shit, last year I was poor. So I like, I know how. Let's not forget. Yeah, let's not forget.

But it just feels so good when you could treat the people that you're with good and get the things that you want. Who knows how many times I'm going to get these shoes that. I go to Union Hall. I'm not wearing my Marshal is at Union. Like, I'm not wearing my Marshall is at Bell House or, you know, on the side of Bushwick. Like, I'm not doing that. But I want to get the nice things and I want to do, I want the success like you have,

but I don't think I'm ready for everything that comes with it. That's what it is. What do you mean? What do you think you're not ready for? I think that I come in with my heart first, and some people are like business or like they're just going to be funny. I can't do that. Like we even having this deep, serious conversation,

no laugh happening, that's me most of the time. I know. You know? Yeah. And so I feel like a lot of people have to be on. Like, they have to mask. And I don't, I can't do that. I'm telling you, I mean, I ran up on Daniel Kaluel yesterday

because I didn't think it was him. Yeah. And I, if I was him, I would be like, you're crazy. Like, I would have just yelled at, like, what's wrong with you? But he was just so kind. And I'm like, I don't know if I could be professional all the time. Yeah, I'd run up on Daniel Klua, too. Have you seen that clip of him and Robin?

No. That clip? She, ooh, the, oh, I'm gonna, ooh. There is a clip of him doing Robin. Oh, what is her last name? She's so wonderful. Look it up, look it up. Robin.

Robin Daniel flirting. Robin Daniel flirting, Google chants. It's Robin Roberts. Robin Roberts. Who's Robin Roberts? She is so fabulous. Robin Roberts. There's this clip of him.

Robin Roberts. She has like a show. There's a clip of him. Let me see, Robin Roberts. Yes, play this clip. Oh wait, yes. Oh wait, she's fab. I'm buttering you up because can you tell us anything about Black Panther?

Can you tell us in a little something something? No, you know, you gotta give me more butter, man. That's not enough button, man. You gotta come better than me. You better be glad we're not saying too. You better be glad we're not saying too. Right back at you. I love that.

What do you do? What are you do? You are too much. You are right on time. Oh. The gay is slipping. The way he's looking at her. And I'll bring...

You have to, man. You gotta make your toilet sight. You're gonna come on your toilet height. That's right. I'll bring more butter. I'll bring the butter next. I need him. First of all, both things.

I need to hang out with her and I need to hang out with him in a different way. I need... Yes. Oh yeah, you can thank you. Oh, my God. Caleb. That's the shit I'm talking about. Can you do a class?

That's the reason to be alive. Me? Yes. Daniel Kulhu needs to do the class and I'm going to enroll because I'm going to see a act like that. I see you in the interviews and you're very, you're very like, like you're not coy, but it's something you got, you have something with you that it's like, I don't know if you would really have sex with them, but they're, I'm sure somebody in the interview would

like, is he coming on to me? Sidney. Is it me? It might be me and you. Sydney, I feel like we have that connection. We do. We do. But you know what?

You let me be goofy and weird and strange and that's what because people don't know that about me. Like they see the outside and they're like, she's put together, all that ass. Titties popping. Teeth shining. And then I'll be like, you have nice nail beds. They're like, what? Like, who's looking at your nail beds?

Do you think that people have, do you think that people have a perception issue with you? Do people want you to be something that you're not? Yes. Yeah. Yes. I like right now I am doing my show called My Black Barbie Story and it's it's about like all the Barbies that I find on on the internet reenacting stories that have happened in my life

it's so goofy and odd and strange and it's like why would you tell these stories it's like because that's who I really am I don't I want to look good but I'm a mess things have happened to me that I'm like I should be ashamed of but I'm not Why am I ashamed? They happen and that's who makes me who I am today. And so I wouldn't be so interesting or an amazing storyteller if I didn't allow those things to happen.

And I just want to release myself of like posting and making sure everything looks right or getting online and making sure that, oh, my lace is not showing. It's like I can't. I'm actually exhausted. I literally have no strength. I want to show up in a bonnet and talk shit. and be like free, like the people on TikTok in Missouri. Like, I want to be like them. Yeah.

But because I've set myself up where, like, I'm always wearing a heel, I'm always beat, I got my lashes on, people see that and they're like, oh, you're going to come and be cool and collect, no, I'm sweating. I'm sweating right now. My coochie is damp. And it's not because you're making me feel sexy. I'm just, I'm nervous. Yeah.

The anxiety is running through me right now. So what do you think the perception problem is? People want you to be X, but you are Y. What are the X and Y? The X is, okay, here's the X, Marie. They want you to be Marie. No, they don't want me to be Marie, but Marie is so freaking cool. She's so funny.

She's like, yeah, I'm not worried about that. She'll show up late. She's not going to say sorry. She's like, hey, y'all, what's up? Like, let's start. Like, she's not worried about, like, if you're mad or not. She's like, well, I know that I'm a deliver, you know? That's not me.

I'm saying sorry. Like, I'm sweating. I'm stressed. I'm fumbling. I have a lisp. I'm saying words wrong. Like, I want to come off so together. But I'm going to show every time that I'm not.

But people like you, like her, you just got it. You just... You know, Marie, though, there's something really funny that I think about often with both of you, actually, where I think there are a lot of, there are a lot of particularly, like, 20-somethings in Brooklyn that they're trying to do cool by being aloof and uninterested. They're not asking anybody any questions.

They're not interested in anybody else. They're trying to do cool through like disinterest and like nose in the air behavior. Yes. But they're doing that to try and impress or be like people like you and Marie. And nobody actually cool is like that. Y'all aren't like that. Y'all care about people.

Y'all ask questions. Like no, Marie's not going to apologize for being late. But she doesn't need to because you know it's not coming from a place of malice. And it is really like, Marie's like getting her energy together. She's showing up great energy every time. It's not like she shows up late and then she's a huge bitch. She shows up late and she's the life of every room she's in. It's like there's something about coolness that I think a lot of particularly young people,

like younger people, are really not understanding that they think being cool as being the person who cares the least in the room and the actual coolest people, the ones that they actually look up to, are not like that. And I'm like, y'all got to get that figured out. Because it's really not cool. And you just seem fucking boring and rude. Do you know what I mean? Yes.

It really bothers me. Who's the coolest person you've met? The coolest person I've met? Yeah. As of late. The coolest person I've met as of late. Damn, I don't know. This is tough.

Who is the coolest person I've met lately? Or you're somebody that you went back. You're like, damn, that was such a good time. Like, I need to see more of them. So many people like that. I mean, but I'm trying to think the coolest person I met lately. I've really, it's a funny time to ask me because I've been really in my like trying to support my friends bag right now. Like I'm taking trips just to see friends concerts.

Like I'm really trying to like do that whole thing. But who's the coolest person I've met lately? You know what? Oh, oh. There's this guy called Cochime who plays in Kevin Morby's band. Okay. And I've been seeing Kevin a lot right now. And it's not that I've just met him, but we got to really have a conversation for the first time after the show in L.A.

and just a cool guy. Just a really nice guy down to earth, really fucking good at what he does. He has a fucking, in Kevin's show right now, he has a saxophone solo that brings the fucking house down. He also plays the flute. He plays all kinds of cool shit.

Plays the bongos. To me. But he's something that I was like, okay, I'm gonna get into him. He's cool, he's cool as fun. I'm gonna get. He used to play with Sharon Jones and the Dab Kings.

Do you ever listen to them? No. They're great. I'll show you some of their stuff. They're great. or maybe he still does play with them. Sorry, Cochee Mae, if I'm getting that wrong. Do you have a picture of him?

I'm a visual person. I'll show you one later. Yeah, I'll find him. Okay. But that was a person who I was like, oh, he's so fucking cool. I'm really glad we got to chit-chat. You know who's really cool? I, like, truly enjoy hanging out with Richard Perez.

Richard Perez is so, we're supposed to have him on the show. He's so goddamn funny. You have to. He's so funny. DNA funny. The characters, but then, like, you'll be in the, in the green room somewhere, and he's just, like, pouring his heart out and, like, showing you, like, oh, yeah, no, this, I'm cool online, but I do worry. I am thinking about this. I do stress,

and I'm like, I love these moments, because online, I'm like, I see this perception, and I, well, no, I see this thing that he's putting out, and I'm like, oh, he's great at branding and marketing, but then I also get to see the real him behind the curtain, and that's what makes me want to hang out with him more even though I only see him at the shows. But I think he's so cool. And Marley. Marley is out of her mind. But very fun and just being themselves. Richard, yeah, Marley's so funny.

Richard's so funny. Richard's in a camp of people in specifically in New York comedy that I'm like, we've run into each other a couple times. I have so much respect for him. I would like to spend more time with him. Yeah. And I actually need to make a better effort about that. That's something I'm trying to do right now is like make a better effort.

it's very easy at this point in my life to curate every single minute of my day with only people and things I like. Like I could really go every day and never be in an uncomfortable situation. Really? Oh yeah. Yeah, because at this point I don't have to be anywhere. I don't report to anybody. This is my job.

Okay, talk your shit. Do you know what I mean? I'm like, I hired them. These are my buddies. Like, I have whoever I want on. Nobody tells me who to have on my show. I don't have to, there is no place I have to be that I don't want to be, which is mostly great.

But I'm trying to make sure that I'm forcing. not forcing, but creating opportunities to meet new people and be a little out of my comfort zone. Yes, and I'm glad you mentioned that because I was recently on a lesbian cruise. This Alaska cruise kind of changed your life, no? I've been screaming about it from the mountain tops. Tell me about it.

I went to, well, I was hired. It's called Olivia Travels. And so at first, I've been dragging cruises for a whole year because I saw the poop cruise and I said, you can't pay me. You can't get me to be on no damn. I don't want to be stuck underwater. I can't swim. The food's going to be bad.

The people are going to be in bad shirts. Yeah. And then Olivia travels hit me up like, hey, here's just money. And then I looked at that. Here's the number. Here's the number. I looked at my bank of guys. I said, yeah, no, no, no, I could do a cruise.

No real. And it's all gays? Yeah, let's go. And so the thing is, is that you see the gay cruise for the men and then you see the lesbian crews and you're like, it's not the same. It's not the same. And which is good because, you know, I'm not a party animal. I can, you know, I don't do drugs.

I'm sober. You know, I'm good with a sweater on. I love a nice little turtleneck. I don't need to have my tits out and oiled up, you know? So I don't want to be on an all-gay men cruise. So I was like, lesbian, let's go. But the thing about this cruise is, like, everybody's a lot older. And they're not, like, teeny-boppers.

They're not in their 20s. A lot of people are, like, 40 and up, 65, 70. And these are people who, listen, they pretty much paved the way for, you know, a gay like me. So I'm on a cruise, 2,000 people plus Alaska. I don't want to be. I'm not paying to be cold. Like that's just, I don't understand white people when they're like, I'm going to go to Mount Everett.

Like, I don't get it. Why are you paying money to be on ice? That's insane. Just open your fridge. Go in your refrigerator. Go in the basement. I don't know, but I just, I couldn't pay money to want to be around snow and to be freezing because I'm anemia.

So I say yes. I go on. and I'm with my girlfriend. So already I have my security blanket. But I go in and I'm like, I have to be open. I can't be close off just because these people are older than me or white and just from places that I've never even heard of. It's okay.

You got to be. And then I got on there. It was so transformative because these women were telling me their stories. They're like, I'm a late in life lesbian, a married man. I had kids. And I didn't feel this free until I came. out and I came out when I was 55 and I wanted to die like die in terms of like tears coming. I would just want to melt into the floor.

Yeah. Because to be somebody else for 55 years to have this life or somebody else and now you're like, oh my God, I feel like I'm twirling in a in a field of just like dandelions. I'm like, oh my God. And this is this is why I'm like I need to be more out and proud and existing because of people like this. And then I got on stage and I did my 45 minutes. I made my, you know, my little jokes.

I was like, Frankie and Grace is in the building. Like, you know, the Golden Girls. Betty White, where are you at? Like, you know, I was doing that. But for the whole thing, I was basically doing some of the stories that I do on my Black Barbie show and then from my How to Start a Fire. And they were like, you are so authentically you. And even when there's moments where you're like, oh, that didn't go over.

You're being yourself and that is so important to be seen. to be doing your type of comedy, they need this. And so all these women came up to me who I thought I had nothing in common with other than that were like lesbians were just pouring out their love and explaining me how

I think that I'm so different. It's like we're all trying to figure it out. We're not that much different. And it was I want to go back on their cruise again for sure. I thought I was going to have a threesome or an orgie. That didn't happen. But, you know, it was great. Was there a man on the

They working. They're doing the work. They're not, they're not, yeah. But there's trans, there's non-binary. They're all, like, you don't have to necessarily be, like, gender. It's like what you, are you a lesbian? But there wouldn't really be room for me. It's not a space for me.

I could bring you. I could bring you. I honestly think you would take over and it would become a cult on a cruise and I'm scared. Like, I think somebody like you should do this, but I'm scared. I'm definitely scared. I think you would have. have those ladies going insane. Those are my girls.

Oh, oh. And, you know, I just want to talk a little bit about ageism, you know. Everybody's so scared or their first thing, oh, you old, bitch, you old. It's like, I'm living. Yeah, I'm alive. I'm a living woman, first of all. I'm alive, you fucking idiot. You want me to be dead?

You want me to be a dead young hot ho? Is that what you want? And the documentaries say the men like when the hoes are dead and young. But, I mean, I think that getting old. is beautiful. It's beautiful. What? The men like when the hose are dead and young is really sending me.

I watch the documentary. Yeah, that's what it's all about. They're killing these young women. Yeah, but I went there and I was like, it's all about aging with grace. You know, when everybody is getting under eye bluffs and cutting their eyelids off and getting all this filler and shit,

I do need to just lean into it. It's okay to age gracefully. It's okay to look like you're, supposed to look. To me, ageism is only funny when you're not actually scared of aging. I think ageism is hilarious, but I'm playing. I'm so excited to age. I'm not getting anything done. I am very excited to age because I want to play those roles. Yes. That's one thing with these actors, I'm like, y'all are destroying your instrument. Yes. Why are you doing this? Stop. You don't you can't, you don't look like anybody who's ever lived before. I hate this. People look mad. You don't look like

anyone has ever lived before. It's crazy to say. You look like a new species. Like, stop. Yankees your shit. And I'm not saying don't get anything done. It's not my business. I know it's different for women. Whatever. Everybody do your thing. Whatever. But I just mean in general, I wish everyone would stop yanking and plumping and teasing their shit until they looked completely inhuman. Men as well.

Male actors are fucking destroying their faces. And I'm like, for what? You don't look better. It's really driving me crazy. Now there are people who have had some very tasteful work done. Very taste where I was like, okay, name the doctor. Hello? But then there's other people that's like, name the doctor so they can go to jail.

We must arrest them immediately. Put the doctor in prison. In prison underneath. Yes. You know? But I will say that, you know, I've had my breast done. And you can't tell because they're very demure right here. But.

And I've had them done twice. And I am obsessed with the idea of, you know, you want to upgrade yourself. You want to do a little. What do you have done to them? Bigger both times? Yes. Okay. Yes.

And I'm, I think if I get another. I'm gonna get him done again. This is 12 years ago, you know what I mean? Oh, I'm pro boob job. Yeah. Yeah. You know, 12 years a D cup. Now I'm like, what else can I do?

You know, I might go smaller. Who knows? But I think, obviously, it's amazing to have the money or the access to, if you want to do a little something yet. But I think it's the cameras. That 4K has fucked us up. The things that we weren't looking at before, Now we are.

I was never like, oh, my eyelids are drooping. Now in that 4K camera of the clips that we got to post to make sure that we have people in the seats. Now I'm like, why does it look like it's, do I have a lazy eye or like, did I have a stroke? Like, that's the stuff that I'm looking at now. And that wouldn't happen if we had like a pixelated camera. We're from afar where it looks good. You can't even zoom in. I'm planning to look bad.

Yeah. I'm playing it. When I am in my 50s, 60s beyond, I am playing. to look bad. I'm planning to be 62 and people going, is he 95? I'm planning to have, I'm planning to be in the sun. I'm planning to laugh so much that my shit's all wrinkly and fucked up and weird. I'm planning to, when I scrunch my forehead's already kind of happening. When I scrunch my forehead, I'm planning for the lines to go crazy like waves. I am planning to look straight up bad. I'm going to bald in a crazy way. I'm already starting in the back. It's good to just be who you are supposed to be. I'm planning to look. The holes are

going to come. I'm going to even if you're not about holes. People are going to want you. They're going to want you. See, this is the thing. I'm like, you really, yeah, it's an energy thing. Now, you're not going to get everybody with energy, but you can get a lot of people with energy. Yes, you can.

I'm planning to look bad. I mean, you got it, man. You got it. For me, I think it's a little different because, you know, I do want to be a sex symbol. I do want to get out there. I want to be on Out 100 one day, you know. I just want to be there.

Like, yeah, I am that girl, you know, that lesbian woman that's out here. here who's older, who is, damn, you want to take her out. And then you want to go to take a nap with her. You know what I'm thinking of? Who? Queen Latifah. Yes!

Oh my God. She is so. Beautiful. Dana. Dana. She's so beautiful. I, like, and classy. And classy.

And I've ruined that for myself because I've been on podcast and I've told all my business. That we both ruined. Yes, but the mystery behind this one, and it's not even mystery. It's just like, you're going to know where you're supposed to Yeah. Okay? And the people who know

what they're supposed to know, those people are close to me. Yes. Some random bitch on her toilet is not going to hear my business. You know what I mean? Like that, if I could go back,

I would do it like Queen. I would do it. She is everything that people should aspire to be. I do. She is everything to me. I saw a video of her recently, one of these annoying fucking paparazzi people. If you are paparazzi,

we should be allowed, and I do not want this cut to legally give you. I'm sorry. Or if you're one of the people that... Wait a minute. Waits everywhere for the autographs legally. This is a disgusting business. You are the scum of the earth.

You're bothering Queen Latifah outside of a Starbucks. Yeah. I should be allowed to, well, yes, you should be allowed to get hurt. And I also want to put this out here for you. No shade. Please don't cut this. But I've been out with my friend and you're literally, you're just trying to be at a concert. You're just trying to be out here.

You're with your friends. You're trying to get some coffee. You're just trying to exist with your people and then there'll be that... I know. I know your friend is crying. I know their mom just died, but can I, I just love your pod.

Can I take a photo with you? Like, y'all got to read the room. I love them down. Now, I want y'all to, you know, follow me or whatever. But when I'm with you and I see I I'm sorry that kills me every time

because it's like we see you we see you in the peripheral you know what I will say waiting the here's the only thing I've been thinking about whether or not I would say this or not

because I am really grateful I'm a thank you for you need fans you need people who love and I want that and I mean it I really am so grateful for my life this is the one thing I would say if anybody listening to this

gets the opportunity to do this for me okay when I'm on a dance floor just leave me alone. Yeah. That's just dancing. That's it. Yeah. Coffee, dinner, lunch, bike, cried. I've made peace with all of it. I get it. It's part of my job. I'm so lucky. I just really, really, really, for my, like,

mental health, genuinely, need people to leave me alone on the dance floor. Like, in a very serious way. Yes. It's getting to the point. I tried to go dancing the other night, and it was 12 people lining up to do meet and greet and selfies. All I wanted was to let loose and dance with my friend, and I literally almost started sobbing. I was so

sad. Because I'm like, it just makes me if you're really inhuman actually. No, I see you. But I don't complain about this. No, you don't. I really, really don't. You never say anything about it. Every time I've been with you, you've been like, you know, this is, this is what it is. But in the back of my head, I'm like, hey, I know they saw that we were deep in the

conversation. Like, literally. If someone's crying, leave us be. Well, there have been a number of times that me or the person I'm with is crying and someone's like, I know I shouldn't. And I'm like, okay. Well, then just don't this time. But most of the time I'm happy. I'm happy. I want to be a part of people's day. I want to make people happy.

You do make people happen. I love my job, but just dancing and crying, I think those are the moments I'd say, let it be. Dancing and crying. Also, doctor's office is the one I'm having to say now. Whoa. I've had medical providers stop me. When I'm strep throat, sickest I've ever been a couple months ago,

leaning on the counter at urgent care, just like, please give me a moxacosilin, please give me a moxacin. And the girl working the desk goes, I know I shouldn't do this, but I'm such a big fan! I was like, girl, I am dying in your medical office. Yes. I am literally can barely stand up. up. There are times, but what were we even talking about? Queen Latifah. Someone cornered her.

Someone cornered her one of these while she's getting in her car and they're asking about Tupac. And she goes so classy, which would be so fucked up. She's so classy. She goes, you know, I miss my friend and we had, we had a lot of fun in the 90s. Sweet. I'm going to cry. Sweet as can be. Like, I literally love her. I want the world for her. Queen Latifah, if you can hear me. I just think she deserves everything and I want whatever she wants. I don't know that I want her to keep doing TV shows. I think I'd like her back. in movies. Stop it.

I just, I want her so much. I equalizer. Bring it back. Bring it back. Is it over? Yes. Oh, okay. You don't know? That's for the best.

And no shade. And I, listen, Law and Order SVU, we got to shut it down. Like, we got to shut it down. Mirchka Harganty, I love you. Olivia Benson. Like, I'll get the tattoo.

Yeah. But we don't have the equalizer. Yeah. We have a law and order SVU. Literally, it's only about sex crimes. Yeah. We're doing that for a hundred more years. Yeah.

We don't want to see Queen Latifah's stunt double do a backflip back into Queen Latifah having perfect hair you don't want to see that now that's fucked up yeah that's homophobic I think Hollywood the least that Hollywood could do for us

they've taken so much from us the least they can do is once a year holiday film with Queen Latifah and LL Cool J. Oh man $200 million budget yes whatever they need can they do it once a year by the way it doesn't have to be Christmas every time St. Patrick's Day

Fourth of July Whatever they want to do She makes people so happy I've heard so many people have like Incredible experiences with her And the fact that she protects Her family and her personal business

But she still values her work Where is that at? I'm gonna cry Where is that? I'm gonna cry No she is like she had an interview with Angie Martinez And watching her in the whole interview I was like

this is a master class of one, letting an interviewer be an interviewer and not being defensive, but also just being genuine in like what you want and need as an artist. You can do that without being an asshole or being, you know, violent to the people who pay your bills.

Yeah. You know? Oh, I love her. Yes. Can you get her on here? Queen. I would never. Queen.

I would never subject her to this. I wouldn't let her come on here. Why? She has no business doing this. She deserves the world She should never have to step into this Dinn of gay bullshit nonsense I barely even think you should have to do it

I mean Queen Latifah You are never allowed in this studio I would do anything If I saw Queen Latifah walking towards a puddle And it was too big for her to walk around I'm laying down on the puddle Yes You understand this is this woman means so much to me Yeah

She can't come in the so true studio Listen there's not a bad living single episode ever Ever Dana Dana and we need I want more people like that

I need more people out here in the streets just just like you could tell she's just she smells good she takes care of everybody she was hanging out she's friends

and Meg the Stallion so she knows she know how to have fun yeah okay and that's what I want for myself like she is existing in LGBTQ without being like I'm gay I'm gay I'm gay like I'm a lesbian

I'm a little Everything's gay, quangling. She's just being herself, and I'm like, that's what, that is what it's about. Yeah. That, you know, but I, you know, for pride, I do want to be on Out 100. Like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

I want to be in one of those. Sydney, what's so true to you? So true to me. It was so true to me. So true to me, you, don't have to have sex all the time in a relationship. You don't. I know, but you're big on this right now.

I'm big on it because I feel like a lot of people are putting a lot of weight on that. They're like, oh, if this sex is not good, if we're not doing it and up, it's like, why aren't you focused on the actual experiences you're having outside of the bedroom? Yeah. That's like, at the end of day, what if I can't have sex? What if my vagina falls out or closes up or all my holes are done? Like, what if I lose my legs?

What if I lose my ass? Like, what if I'm just a nugget? Yeah. And you can't do anything to me. Yeah. Would you leave me? Oh, I can't. I can't put my stuff in you.

I can't finger you. No, like, what about me? Yeah. As just a person. Wouldn't you want to spend that time with me and be in a relationship with you? We could kiss. Yeah.

I could put your finger in my mouth. Yeah. But we don't have to have sex. I'll put your finger in my mouth. Yeah. Hey, I love hanging out with you and we don't have sex at all. I know.

So I understand the connection. Sometimes I do feel like I'm dating you. That's really beautiful. Yeah, because when we go, we fight over the bill and then you run around and you sneak and you do it. And then I catch you and then I sneak and you're on.

No, you can. can't do that and I'm like well he should pay but like you know I just want to let you know that I have pretty Republican views on men in the bill yeah I get pretty Republican about the men in the bill it's it's not it's not it's not cute but so many people benefit from it in my life they're not pushing back at all yeah yeah I get real conservative about being a man and paying the bill and somebody with with legs like that with leg like those you should Sydney walked in the studio today and immediately started rubbing on my legs I know that I've never seen that, like they are, Oof. These guys right here? They're juicy.

These are special to me. But like it, oh, I like these boys. Solid. They're kind of dripping in sweat right now. I mean, it is a little humid. But I, again, so true, you don't have to have sex all the time in a relationship. Yeah, I support. It should be maybe 30% of your relationship. Okay. It should not, you said okay?

I said okay. I just, that was 30%. 30%? The number. The number number surprised me. 30%. I don't know what number, but the thing is, I don't know what number I think. I just 30 like, whoa, to hear a number to it, it's kind of, okay, yeah. People think that if they stop having sex, the relationship is over, and that is just not true. Yeah. Sometimes, I'm not thinking of it.

Some people just don't want to have it, but I still want to be with you. I still want to hold it. I still want to do this life with you. Yeah. But then you're like, well, we're just friends. You're like, that's not true. I think one of the biggest relationship mixes that can, the hardest thing, there's so many different types, but I think one of the biggest hardest ones is the high sex drive, low sex drive relationship.

Yes. I think this is the hardest thing to overcome. Yes. And, yeah, it's tough. When someone doesn't want to have sex, I, yeah. I want to say this on camera, my girlfriend is getting it, okay? I don't want you to think that I'm depriving this woman. It's good you said that because I was wondering.

I know, I know. I was wondering. Because she's going to go out there and be like, wait. Do they know you be throwing it back? I do. I do. I'm saying all this, but I'm also, you know, in the bedroom is a little different. But I'm just saying that it should be an option.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you guys have a beautiful relationship. We do. I envy what you guys have. You guys have a very beautiful connection.

We're looking for a third. I know, I know, I know. But jokes aside, I need to find my own thing. I'm working on it. You got it. I'm working on it. He's not going to be in New York. How about that?

You think? Yeah. That's a really bad news. It's okay. I moved here kind of thinking that he might only be in New York. That's a fucked up reason to be in New York. No, I moved here to date. Isn't that crazy?

People say it's horrible, but I love it. And then I immediately met my ex, who I love to death. New York dating has been very good to me. Hey, I just want to let you know there's people who actually, you know, zip code, they've been here. They're born on, you know, New York City soil and you think your ass just going to come in,

gentrify and get love? Hey, it's not happening. You can't do that. My two big plans are to gentrify and find love. I'm planning on taking over in every sense of the word, yeah. You know me. That's what I'm after. That's what I'm after.

You're going to play game? Yes. Okay, Sid, I'm going to read you 15 statements. You're going to tell me as quickly, you can if they're true or false. If you get 10 or more correct, we're going to give you 50 U.S. dollars. You ready?

Yeah. All right, scorpions are arachnids. True. True. The first airplane flight lasted two minutes. False. 12 seconds. The capital of South Dakota is Bismarck.

False. Fals. Pierre. Neptune has 16 moons. True. True. Clark University's mascot is Jonas the Cougar. False. I went to Clark University,

but I wasn't looking at no dead mascot. I was trying to survive. It's true. Pairs originated in Central America. True. False, China. Moon Night is a... Moon Night is a Marvel Comics character.

True. True. Condors have the largest wingspan of all flying birds. False. False. It's albatross. Microwaves have longer wavelengths than radio waves. Say it again?

Yeah, microwaves have longer wavelengths than radio waves. True. False. The New York Liberty played their first season in 2002. False. False in 1997. Exactly. Hot air balloons are older than cars.

True? True. The skull was the strongest bone in the human body. True. False. It's the femur. Every square is also a rectangle. I should know this.

I should know this because this was on the pod. True. It's true. Okay. The Vietnam War ended in 1975. I'm not answering that. I'm not, no. Next.

Next question. The Soho Grand Hotel. No. One of the realest answers I've ever seen on this show. The Soho Grand Hotel has 17 floors. False. It's true. How'd you do, Jans?

Nine. Oh, damn. Give me that one. You know what? The Vietnam War, let's give it to her. Yay! Oh, shit. I'm dead.

Sid. Oh, my gosh. I'm not answering this. that. No. Listen, no. Cut this up however you, I know I was like, you don't have ADHD, so I'm all over the place and I don't know what I'm saying. I'm sorry.

Sid, tell the people where they can find you how they can support. Oh, wait, I thought we were done. No, baby. No, they got to know where they can find you. Oh my God, you can find me on Instagram. Just Sid, BW, J-U-S-T, S-Y-D-B-W. Don't go over on TikTok. Nobody cares about that. I have a podcast called Mess with Marie Faustin. Please subscribe to that.

And I will be an end in August from the 5th to the 16th. I'll be doing my show. My Black Barbie Story, please come through if you're in Scotland because I need y'all in the seats. Love you. Love you more.