So True with Caleb Hearon - Trixie Mattel Returns

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

Hello and welcome back! This week’s guest is the hilarious and talented Trixie Mattel, making her second appearance on the show! Trixie and Caleb talk everything from Trixie’s hiatus, impressions, playing pool, reality TV, birds, and much more! Get tickets to see Caleb, Waxahatchee, and more at YeeHaw: A Benefit Show for Kansas City Presented by KC Tenants on November 23rd at The Midland in Kansas City, Missouri: https://www.midlandkc.com/events/detail/670783  Can’t make it to KC for the show? Donate to KC Tenants here: https://kctenants.org/donate Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes! Join our Patreon for an exclusive extended interview with Trixie and other bonus content!  Follow Trixie! @trixiemattelFollow the show! @sooootruepod Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud About Headgum: Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. » SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1  » FOLLOW us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/headgum  » FOLLOW us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/headgum/ » FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. I like my hair. I think I'm beautiful. But if my hair goes, I'm like, that's okay. If you sit here in front of me and tell me that you think you're bald one more time. I said I might go someday. I'm not, you know. I don't have, obviously.

Obviously what? You know why I always do this? I always sit down at people's shit with a bag of makeup and I go, just start. Just start. You know, I saw the clip because I was off social media for three months, but I did see the clip of you telling, I think, Matteo Lane that I'm the only one who's asked for the money. By the way, that doesn't speak weird to me.

No. You are right. Everybody else needs to know what their fucking money's doing. They need to get about their business. And that's why I use rocket money. No! I do use rocket money. Where?

Do you? The thing is, something you should know about me is I am that bitch who sells out and promotes shit, but I use the shit. Yeah. I cooked breakfast this morning. I made gorgeous eggs and potatoes. You know, a fresh rosemary from the garden. Do you know why I know how to do that?

Green Chef. No. I'm dead serious. You're using Green Chef? No, I did Green Chef for so long that now I just know how to cook. Yeah. Fresh rosemary from the garden. Well, I have the garden.

You have the garden where? In the yard. In the yard? In the yard. I'm homesteading in Los Angeles. You're gardening? You're gardening in LA? I came to Los Angeles to forage.

Baby. I use Darling Daisy. Get it at TrixieCosmetics.com. But look at the makeup bag. This is not... That's pathetic. That's pathetic. Isn't that horrible?

I hate that you have that in here. I don't think I see, you know, Norvina, James Charles. I don't think I'd see the other makeup moguls being like... A fucking hefty Ziploc freezer bag. Hey. How many times have you used that? Well, this just got recycled. This used to be a bag for face wash and stuff, and now it's this.

Look, it has holes in it. I can see it, hon. No, it's not. It's not very glam at all. You got makeup on my couch? Girl, no. Your couch? This is Moona's couch.

I've seen them here, okay? I i've been here you rent it from me yes is this okay you look gorgeous i just want to wear my i love this this is not my product but i got this rupaul shirt from her pride collection and i think it's like so fucking cute don't you think yes yes it's very cute she's god rupaul she's god you know i've never met her well have you ever worked with her no okay well you what you will i'm trying to rue she's only somewhere and i just i am obsessed with her i'm not like the other drag race queens where i think she's my best friend i know i don't really know her right and so i i worship from afar i'm obsessed with her they they well she's got that um what I know I don't really know her. Right. And so I worship from afar. I'm obsessed with her. They, they,

well, she's got that, um, what is that? The world of wonder thing. They were doing comedy specials for a second. Do you ever see those? No.

Well, the wonder did like some 15 minute, 30 minute comedy specials or something. No, the only thing I've watched, um, on the wow network, I still,

I definitely still have it. I obviously would watch when it came out and then. And then I watched Fashion Photo Review sometimes. What's that? The Rajan Raven tootin' boot. You don't know about that? Pardon? Sometimes when you talk to me, girl, I'm like, you say, you put words in an order that I'm like, what the fuck are we talking about? Listen, we're in Silver Lake.

We're not in Egypt. I know you know what I'm talking about. The Rajan Rana tootin' boot? No. Rajan Raven, the drag queens. They have a show called Fashion Photo Review, where they review the looks on the runway of RuPaul's Drag Race, and they decide whether they toot the look or boot the look. Okay. That's cute.

Just like a lot of people who are in the know know what it is. No, I'm certain. I know that I'm not in the know. I know that I'm the one on the outs here. That's it is tough for me where the hell have you been girl i've just been on break i've been on it's and let me tell you it's been horny horny very horny i was really you know i started first week of july and i i my last little gigs and then i just dipped and didn't really do any drag or spend any time in Los Angeles for three months. I spent completely off social media, off emails. Once a week I had a 30-minute Zoom with managers

to say yes, no, yes, no, yes, no. And that's it. I watched CNN, played my guitar, did watercolor, went for walks, rode my bike, went to Planet Fitness. I was Amish. I think Amish people go to planet fitness they're not in planet fitness baby you know i've been watching a lot of the news why well because i can't believe you went on a break and watched the news the whole time well every day i would

make my little breakfast and i watched the news because when you're phony you're not on socials it's just people you barely care about saying how are you sounds horrible yeah but but no like when i when i first went on the break it's like everyone i had sex with once was like babe what's up girl i didn't check in i didn't want to know i was worried about it we had sex twice yeah exactly correct no sa sa warning we didn't have sex. We did not. We did not have sex. I keep trying. Yeah. I'm hitting you up.

You're sending me pictures of you on hiatus holding a gun and shit. Everything I heard from you during your hiatus was deeply concerning. Well, I spent a lot of my break in the South, and we had BB guns. Not real guns. BB guns. Sit in the backyard, shoot a Diet Coke can, see what happens. Yeah. At one point, you called me a couple weeks ago, and you said, there's a sound you made once in a video that I love. Can you make it for me really quick?

Well, can I tell you what that was? Sure. My friend Becca was visiting me. Becca loves you. She listens to your pod every week. And she was thrilled when I was on this the last time. And she said she loved your Twitter during the COVID. And then she said that you said said something about share or so i

don't know what you did you made some sound that she loved and i thought what if i just fuck her up i said oh let's hear it and i called you and i thought she was driving and she was like and then it hung up and i talked to on the phone she loves you her name is becca you haven't said hi to her becca hey girl well i'm learning in this moment that you used me like a wind-up toy for your friend's enjoyment. Here I think we're checking in. What do you think it's like to be a drag queen? Every time someone's birthday happens, someone's like, I know you're not on Cameo, but if I'm not on Cameo, do you think it means that I want to make free videos? Cameo needs to be shut down.

Girl. We need to shut Cameo down. Cameo is my Match.com boyfriend who won't quit every two weeks thinking an email from them being like Hey, yes, the thing is I like cameo. I've received them from Amanda lapore and I loved it Mm-hmm. I've received them and when you get them, it's thrilling if you love the person. It's awesome. Yeah, it's awesome I got one from Tammy Slayton from thousand pound sisters. Oh Yeah, I didn't know she gasped over the room over here. They were very thrilled about that Yeah, and she I will say I loved it. I loved getting it. She was a little

fat No, did she lose the weight before the video I don't what did she do it's still called a thousand pound sister So what do you think? Okay, so she's still big? Well, I think every season they change the name they weigh him again and change the name Didn't one of them lose a bunch of weight well, they're there they're both on weight loss journeys One of them has lost a lot of weight now. She's removed the trachea and the trachea out of me So she's moved the trach tube. Okay, Tammy and she um, she now is uh has a girlfriend okay tammy and she um she now is uh has a girlfriend a lesbian yeah oh i love lesbian listen i love those girls that show is great i think yeah i think the level of vulnerability to talk about that level body stuff and family dynamic stuff and put it on tv takes a lot of

bravery sure and you know in tv after five seasons usually you get to renegotiate you're like you know if you're on friends you get like a percent raise every, usually you get to renegotiate. You're like, you know, if you're on Friends, you get like a percent raise every year. You can't renegotiate. And they just started season six. And I literally, during my break, would go to bed and be like, dear God, can we please make sure Tammy and Amy renegotiate and put the knife in TLC and twist? Because I want those bitches moving. I want those bitches in a palace.

I want them to do well. I just think, honestly, in some ways you watch the show because it's like, wow, this is wild, you know? But in some ways it's like, that's fucking cool. I mean, look, they've lost weight. They put their family dynamics on TV. One of them lost a partner. Which one's the blue hair? One of them's boyfriend died.

Okay. Which one's blue hair? Well, that's Amy. Amy's blue hair. Amy Slayton, yep. And I got my cameo from Tammy. And it was thrilling. She said, I heard you're going on break.

It's good to take time to take care of yourself. And, you know, I got to tell this to Katya, too. You work every day of your life in drag and people are like, here she goes again, Miss Thing. If you take time off, oh, my God, you are Princess Diana. You are. The BBC put out an article that was like struggling drag race star takes a step back. But the picture was like me in full drag at pride DJing looking like really.

And I was like, I could have given you a more downtrodden photo. Call me. Yeah. Call me. Call me. I have so many pictures of me on the phone that mean like just a wig cap, which by the way,

why is a bald person wearing a wig cap? Right. Yeah. But I'm also wearing fake boobs. Right. So what are we, what are we doing? Yeah. of me on the phone of me in like just a wig cap which by the way why is a bald person wearing a wig cap right yeah but I'm also wearing fake boobs right so what are we what are we doing yeah

if I can pretend to have titties can I pretend to have hair I think so I would like to send them some of the pictures you sent me I would like to do that

what I like is when the drag queens get the units the units installed the you know glue on male wigs oh okay and then they put

a wig cap on and put on the drag wig hold on what happens it's a wiggy it's a wig cap on and put on the drag wig. Hold on. What happens? It's a wiggy, it's a wiggy-otomy. It's like, so they get the men's unit. Yeah. Okay.

Men's unit. Now, what is that? So, okay. So people who don't have your gorgeous hair. By the way. Beautiful hair. By the way. Can I just touch a little bit of it?

By the way. Come on now. It's so thick and glossy. It's beautiful. I've told you explicitly not to flirt with me on this show. And you keep going back into flirting territory. Knock it off. I'm sorry.

So the drag queens, either they go to Turkey. Okay. And they get. Oh, they're getting transplants. They get the full transplant. Or they go down to the clinic and they grow out the side hair. They shave the top and they get the toupee custom made and glued on oh which is fine does that withstand like water sports and wind and stuff yeah they say you can shower in it and everything whoa okay but you have to get it reinstalled every

few weeks because obviously your some hair does grow back under the piece every few weeks yes you got to go in and get it redone oh god but you got to get haircuts too i know but just i think i would when there's glue involved i think i I would just go, I'll probably go bald someday and I think I'll just go. How old are you? I am turning 30 in 100 days. I don't think you're gonna go bald. It's pushing back a little bit on the sides.

I can see it for me. Is that hard for you? No. No. Because you know why? I, because growing up fat, I was never attached to the idea of being traditionally handsome anyway. So I learned a lot of other things about myself. And now if I like my hair, I think I'm beautiful.

But if my hair goes, I'm like, that's okay. If you sit here in front of me and tell me that you think you're bald one more fucking time. I said I might go someday. I'm not, you know. I don't have, obviously. Obviously what? obviously what well you know I

when I went on break I was 167 pounds my depression weight more I've never been so thin and unhappy in my life and then now I'm back up

to almost 190 you look great and everyone's like you look happy you look healthy Fina Barbatal you know she's lost a lot of weight

so now she's a toxic skinny person it's amazing when somebody really big gets small they're like everyone here is really big, she's lost a lot of weight, so now she's a toxic skinny person. It's amazing. When somebody really big gets small, they're like, everyone here is really big. Yeah. Yeah. She zipped him in the corset. She goes, when's the last time you wore this?

Oh, no. Isn't that horrible? You look happy and healthy. Coded. That's coded. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

You're looking happy. You look healthy. You look jolly. You look jolly. Your cheeks look full. You're looking rosy. Yeah. I don't know. But here we are. And you're looking rosy yeah i don't know but here we are you know and you're back now you're back from the break yeah it's been awful i filmed

a lot well i filmed the last well i got in drag for real and filmed it i was filming with netflix monday and tuesday i forgot you know a show i like to watch we filmed yesterday and the day before and i forgot about getting in drag for you know getting up at seven to get in drag and still being in drag at four or five p.m jesus i forgot how i was like oh and the front of the and the top of the days you know we sit on couches like this and we're all like we're two queens who like to watch let's watch the show and by the end the corset the the skeleton locks uh-huh the you know the stiffening right stiff woman syndrome the right arm the right arm is all oh all the signs of a heart attack are starting really the arm is numb from the corset you slur the speech is slurring you're on your sixth red bull you're squinting under your one good eye trying to watch a netflix program like get rid of the red bull don't drink that stuff who got jack be boo me

right now presently i'm telling you to stop it's bad tricksy people drink alcohol and they probably shouldn't right now what about the vodka red bull that's the death wish right vodka red bull is a death wish yes when you do alcohol what what do you do? I drink like once a year, and I really go at it. Once a year, you'll see me on an Instagram story and go, it's the night. Capital T, capital N. And I will go, I'll go deep

on Jack and Cokes and Vodka Crayons. Like I'm 20 years old. You mix them? Yeah, I'll go back and forth. That's what you don't want to do. Jack and Coke, Vodka Crayon. You want to pick one thing and do that thing you know what two years ago i got so drunk off jack and cokes and vodka crayons at 4100 bar worst bar in america that i walked down this street in silver lake and fell into a bush and stayed there for a little while i had to stay there for a little while oh my god i fell into a bush and i said i'm gonna be

here for a minute and i stayed in the bush i called some friends they said where are you i said bush i'm on the i'm in the bush on the street and i stayed there for a bit well um you know you're a tall person right if you're blackout drunk you're gonna going to need to call help. I did. Right? I did. Yeah. Someone came and got me. Who? I think it was my friend Sam. Made up? Yeah.

Made up? Yeah, of course. You slept all night? Yeah, I slept in the bush. Yeah. Well, I quit drinking for like two years and I started again during the break. I do like it. Okay. But you do get hung over and that's the bummer. Yeah, it's not worth it. That's the hard thing. That's the hard thing. It's not worth it. What were But you do get hung over, and that's the bummer.

Yeah, it's not worth it to me. That's the hard thing. That's the hard thing. It's not worth it. What were you drinking during the break? Sometimes I do wine. I got, well, it's summer. I get into the margaritas, the mojitos.

You know, I asked my rheumatologist, can I drink alcohol? I know. And they said, you can have two glasses a day, two drinks a day. And I said, well, I'm gay, and I'm on vacation. And she was like, well, just keep checking your blood work. I was like, okay, great. You your blood work. I was like, great. You let me know when I'm about to die.

Yeah. Thank you. I'll check in. Yeah. You weren't doing bourbon? No, I decided that diarrhea is not for me. Really?

Well, I did a little bit of the bourbon because I was in Kentucky. I did a little bit of the bourbon but, you know, you can kind of do a splash there.

I went to the horse races, the Kentucky horse races in Keeneland. Did you wear a big hat? Yeah, I wore a hat and I had to wear a suit because i was in the club right the um you know in the club this song party in the club you know that song it was like that we're gonna party like it's your birthday we're drinking party like it's your birthday right you it. We're drinking Bacardi like it's your birthday. Right. You know, we don't give a fuck because it's your birthday. Party in the club. You know.

50 Cent, Curtis Jackson. Do you know what I'm talking about? Am I delusional? Okay, thank you. No, I know what you're talking about. You're like, what's Drag Race? What's in the club? Quit this.

Quit this. I know what you're talking about, but it's the way you presented it. You go, I'm in the club in the club that song it's your birthday that's how you served it to me

well I went there can I just say it was really nice like I've we don't have horse racing in California or Wisconsin anywhere else I've been

so I was like this is a cultural thing where horses are racing for sport people are betting this is crazy that this exists right I racing for sport. People are betting. This is crazy that this exists. Right.

I've only seen it at the casino when they have the fake plastic horses run. You know what I mean? Right. On the little tracks. Yeah. Yeah. And so watching the real horses when I was like, this is crazy. You know, the jockeys are 110 pounds because the jockeys who ride the horses are tiny. Yeah.

They're three foot one. Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't quite prepared for the level of generational caucasian wealth yes at the function yes blondness the mega hats it's weird to see a mega hat in general to me although i was at the farmer's market on uh hollywood boulevard on sunday and i saw a person i know or used to know who used to come to my shows and they had a mega hat on and I waved and as they turned and I saw the red hat, it was like...

It was so weird. It's so weird. By the way, I am voting and I'm voting for Kamala if anybody cares. You're voting for Kamala? Absolutely. I didn't know you voted. Of course I'm going to vote. I'm voting Wisconsin. Oh voting for Kamala if anybody cares. You're voting for Kamala? Absolutely. I didn't know you voted. Of course I'm going to vote. I'm voting in Wisconsin.

Oh, good. Thank you. Because I have my business in two houses there. So it counts. It counts. Right? I've just voted in Missouri. Yeah.

Which will do nothing for Kamala, but I did vote for her. What's up, guys? It's me, Caleb. November 23rd in Kansas City, Waxahachie and I are co-hosting a bunch of our friends, comedians and musicians at the Midland. We are doing a benefit show called Yeehaw to benefit the Tenants Union. Tara's episode is out and she talked a bunch about the Tenant Union. But please, please, please, if you live in Kansas City or nearby, Omaha, come on down. Chicago, come on down. November 23rd at the Midland, we're doing a show to benefit the tenant union that we're so excited about it about uh me waxahachie a bunch of other fun people that we'll announce um but yes please come i'm gonna vote i'm gonna vote

well i i always vote and sometimes voting lands on a day where i'm filming one time in la i voted in drag on the way to set that's so fucking chic it wasn't i would kill to see that uh my voting uh place was at an elementary school so i mean you're just what they're talking about girl so i'm on the way to set i'm in full drag i'm in like the shitty you know my look shitty 60s dress shitty blonde wig little i have a pink parasol and I'm like, here we go. I go in. I show my ID, which means nothing at that point.

Did you take the parasol into the voting location? Of course. Okay. Well, I'm not going to be seeing the sun. Right. Of course. I'm sorry. I show my ID of another person.

Right. Right? Don't look like that. This is a man. They go, sure. Yeah. Right? That could have been voter fraud.

It wasn't. Right. Could have been voter fraud. Wasn't. It could have been voter fraud. They said't. Right. Could have been voter fraud. Wasn't. It could have been voter fraud. They said it couldn't be done. And it was huge. Yours is good.

I like this. I've been watching CNN. Yeah. You've been studying? Well, you know, the day after I left the internet for three months, the day after Donald Trump got shot in the ear. God. Where were you?

I was on the phone. I was like, I'm not going to watch Twitter. I guess I'll just keep watching the news. I was in London. There was a party. That's your alibi, huh? There was a party at the pub. Yeah.

There's a party at the pub. There's a party at the pub then. Donald Trump's been shot. Yeah. So I'm at the school voting because I was like- They're partying at the pub. They're partying. They're racing the horses.

They're drinking the bourbon. They love that I got shot in London. In London. I was in London and I got shot. And when I was there, and you know who was in? Kamala. Yours is kind of giving Trump on barbiturates. And I'm obviously not a fan of his work, but unfortunately watching the news so much, I see his fucking ass every day now.

You know, it just sucks that he's one of the, he really is. Don't want him to win. Obviously I have a really specific plan for what I'd like to see happen to him quickly that I won't go into, but he is really funny. Let's take a break. Let's take a break. Just to make sure that Caleb said that and not me. Yes. Yeah, it was me.

You're going to get chapel roamed like that. It's over. Just so I'm clear, you went to the horse races in Kentucky and were surprised to see rich white people. No, no, no, no. Well, I'd never been. I knew nothing about it. Okay.

So I knew I had to wear a suit because it was in the clubhouse. And by the way. I'm in the club. In the club. Well, I love Curtis 50 Cent Jackson. Yeah. Right. So he's so funny. I watch on late night shows. He's always such a funny guest. No, he's Yeah. Right. So he's so funny.

On late night shows, he's always such a funny guest. No, he's a charmer. Because he's so rich. And so his stories are always so crazy of wild things he's done with his money. And he always wears a three-piece suit. I think he's so handsome. I love him. And he's probably not a fan of me, but that's okay.

We don't know that. We don't know. We don't know. And I went there and it was like just just real brazen real brazen young 21 year old men and mega hats yeah the young young people in mega hats is so when it's like you're someone's grandpa it's like oh fucking you know old white people whatever idiots whatever you know yeah when it's young people it's just like so sad it is god you're you got uh flowered and dipped in the brat the broth and deep fried in the racism and the the bigotry and the rich the wealth money has padded every part of you

you understand nothing about people who need any but then you know it's not just about money i went to my hometown wasaki wisconsin uh just a couple weeks ago where everybody probably lives way below poverty line. Right. And I saw more Trump signs than I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. I saw Trump signs bigger than people's houses. Yeah. They lived in trailers and the Trump sign is the size of a, you know, and I was just like, wow, you, you, you think that you think that this person is creating policies for you, poor people in rural wisconsin you think he's looking out for you it's really nuts it's not happening it's like i can't why did this guy it the craziest part of his whole thing to me is that he was able to capture

poor people because where i'm when i grew up poor in missouri we hated rich people it was like a thing like we all would be like oh my god that guy if you even drove like a cadillac we were like kind of fuck you you know and then they all went for this guy who was like the like quintessential rich guy i was like oh okay i didn't think we were doing that it's wacky but when i when i had to vote in drag i remember walking in and i was like i'm gonna vote and i'm not gonna miss it just because i have to work yeah right that's not an excuse not but we can have it all so i'm gonna go and then everyone's like yeah girl make a statement i was like i'm just busy yeah this isn't this isn't like this is just give me the let me get out of the elementary school and drag there's a team there's

a tmz article downtrodden drag queen cast vote in dress and i i you know i've turned a full corner on kids i used to hate kids and i've turned a complete corner on kids because adults aren't that great no think about it worse even adults aren't that great i'm saying would you ever have kids yeah really yeah absolutely i was in promincetown this summer i went because um during my break because i used to do uh summer residencies there at the post office cabaret so i went to see friends and hang out with my uh you know past co-workers and i saw these two gay guys with kids and i was looking at them with their kids and i was like god that's so cool it's like wow you have kids and i said i really with kids and I was looking at them with their kids and I was like, God, that's so cool.

It's like, wow, you have kids. And I said, I really want kids. And they recognized me and they were like, so what's your plan? I said, for you to look the other way. For you to look the other way. For you to get a little. And then I was at, do you know what Dave and Buster's is? Of course I know what Dave and Buster's is.

I know what Main Event is as well. Okay, so I was at Main Event, which is like Dave and Buster's is? Of course I know what Dave & Buster's is. I know what Main Event is as well. Okay, so I was at Main Event, which is like Dave & Buster's, a little nicer. Nicer Main Event. A little nicer. It's a little, Main Event, it's cleaner. Main Event, it's a little cleaner. And there was a woman there. It was like 11 o'clock at night.

I was there playing pool because I played a lot of pool on my break. Me and you were on very similar journeys, you and I. I played pool every day for probably three months. Yeah. For like two hours a day. I loved it. You any good? Yeah.

Nice. Yeah. Okay. I like to go to the straight establishments and what do you call it? Pretend to be bad and then take their money. Oh, hustle? In front of their little girlfriends. Yeah, their little girlfriends.

I was in Milwaukee playing and I played against this straight guy and he was in front of his girlfriend. And I was playing and he turns around and goes, oh, he lied. He's good. And I was like, no, you're bad. Yeah. Are you code switching? Or have you been like, what's up, brother? Well.

How are you interacting with these dudes at the pool hall? I'm, it's directing traffic. You know, I don't say much. I'm like, it's a TikTok dance. I point at the table. You're pointing and you're like cute um so no you're not code switching no i mean i think i do you think i'm really gay do i think you're really gay yeah is the sun gonna rise tomorrow damn does a bear shit in the woods do i think you're really gay

what are we talking about you're you started this interview putting on makeup and then you finish it off with a cheetah print hat yes i think you're really gay trixie mattel famous drag queen do i think you're really gay i I just mean. And let me say this, too. When I realized on my break. When I realized on my break. By the way, the mental health did improve. You know, obviously. It didn't?

No, obviously. No, it did. I'm so happy. I feel great. And I feel very appreciative of the gift of being able to be Trixie. More than I ever was. Yeah. More than I ever was.

We're grateful that you're doing Trixie. It's awesome. Three months without it, I was the first month I was like, oh my God, should I just run? This is awesome. Outworking is awesome. And then by like month three,

I was like, I really miss doing drag and performing and talking and all that. And like talking on camera, you know, the vow of silence. Yeah. I'm glad you're doing tricksy you i will say i

hope i hope that in post-break tricksy world you will do less yeah everybody wants me to do less i do we're sick of seeing it i do think because all my content is on youtube if you watch one of my videos i got you for 18 years 18 years are the 18th birthday you find out it wasn't his like because youtube will think you want to see everything I ever do. Yeah. So if you watch one makeup video of me accidentally, cause it's on autoplay every day for the rest of your life, I'm like,

Hey, no, even if you don't want to watch it, YouTube thinks that you want to watch me. Yeah. Well, people mostly do. That's why we're here.

That's why, that's why you are as big as you are. People mostly do want to watch you cause you're hilarious and compelling well a lot of some things came out while i was gone which like i think pit stop was still on when i left and then english teacher came out when i was mia so it's fun to have stuff come out while i just didn't i was just get texting from friends like watched your thing did you get to uh do scenes with brian in english teacher is that what yes isn't he the funniest so funny i've been a fan of his for a long time and that show's doing great it's so funny like he's so funny i've been a fan

of his since caleb gallo and then i watched him on will and grace and like i love all his little characters with the snapchat filters yes i'm so proud of him he's been working really hard for a long time and this show feels like the embodiment of the thing he was trying to do i'm really excited for him it's really funny i mean the show basically it's like the teachers and the parents are like you know their views are way like don't say that yeah and then the students are so woke it's like this tug of war he's in as the teacher yeah which is like the infighting about political correctness of nothing which i think in a school setting is like a great arena for that because it's like age gaps and you know and i got to play what i loved about it is now when drag queens are

on tv the role we get is like i love yourself you're fierce diva it's the magical gay person who helps everyone and i don't know anyone like that right gay people are monsters who are out for themselves especially most of all you drag queens are mentally ill uh whores yeah uneducated drug addicts like all this like all this like we're here shit is propaganda ain't nobody helping anybody drag queens aren't helping anybody come on drag queens can't even help themselves you know what i mean so i say that i have an assistant but yeah yeah team of six people who like carried your stuff in hello um but in the show i I was like, he was like, oh, your characters, my characters trying to,

Brian was like, my characters trying to prove to the school body that like, not all drag queens are creeps and you're going to help us put on a part of a football game where you help the jocks

learn how to do drag to do a good job. And I was like, love that. He's like, but you end up being kind of a kleptomaniac and you're like vaping

and you, you know, I was like, oh. Yeah, sounds about right. Because about right that's real you let a drag queen into a high school what do you think would happen with theft theft theft bare minimum murder yeah murder stealing money hurting people yeah have you ever hurt someone physically i'm not like a fighter. You're not a fighter? No.

I've been mugged. I lay down and take the punches until they're gone. I don't even fight back. You got mugged? Oh, yeah. What'd you do? I got carjacked. You got carjacked?

Mm-hmm. By the way, I'm getting my license again. It's going to be huge. It's going to be huge. Do you have a Kamala? did you have a kamala at all you're watching a lot of cnn hey it's not good right it's not good either none of none of it's good my fight or flight is triggered so hard right now

i am so prepared to get out of this studio. Well, you've heard the Cher. Oh, I'm Kamala Harris. She's on a pill, too. They're all on pills when I do it. They're all... I don't know what. Well, you know my...

My Cher's worse. You know. That's not your Cher. Yes, it is. I'm gonna vote, bitch! It's crazy. Crazy. Crazy. All this CNN and this is what you brought to me? I'm Kam vote, bitch! It's crazy. Trixie!

Crazy. All this CNN and this is what you brought to me? I'm Kamala Harris. I don't know what... That actually... I will say on that last one, there was a bit... Yeah. And so you lost me again. It's Michael Jackson a little bit.

And it is also giving evil Elmo. Yeah. It's not giving... The laugh is where you're getting off base. Girl, the other thing I'm trying to do is, I'm a bird person. I love parrots. Why are you? I'm just talking about myself here.

I'm trying. I love your mind, and I'm trying to go where you go, because we were on license. Oh, right. Okay. You're asking if I hurt someone. Oh, I killed someone with my car. Just kidding. Okay. You're asking if I hurt someone. Oh, I killed someone with my car. Just kidding. You're getting your license again and you love parrots.

I'm locked in. You're weaving. It's called the weave. It's called the weave. It's called the weave and I'm doing it beautifully. I'm doing it beautifully. Couldn't be done. I really want to get a parrot again because i loved having parrots before drag race i had a parrot and i loved it and it died right before i got on drag race which is kind of a blessing because i don't know what i would have done traveling the world with a bird yeah right

but you know now that i want a better work-life balance i i want to re-engage with you know parrots are not like dogs or cats. They're the third most popular pet, but they're the first most rehomed because they're demanding. They're emotional. They're super smart. A lot of these birds are as smart as toddlers and they live 75 years. So you have a 75 year old toddler who can fly and has razors for a mouth. You know, like it's a crazy animal to have, but they're beautiful creatures and I think they're amazing and i was at this bird store in burbank the other day called birds plus and i was looking at different birds and they have um a lot of people's birds being boarded you know because birds have to be taken care of like they have to be fed every day it's not like a cat we just i don't know

throw dead fish on the ground and leave i don't know what you do i don't like cats but this is what you do this person's umbrella cockatoo was in the cage and they obviously are smart and they're they they look you in the eye and talk and this person's bird was going i love you i love you and i was going i love you too and then i would walk away and the bird would go la la la la la la la la it was so crazy i don't like that. There was something about it that was like, oh, this bird has killed before and will kill again. Don't check your watch right now. I turned the sound off.

Nice. What you described to me was like a horror movie. I loved it. Yeah, okay. Are you going to get one? Well, then there was like, I was at this bird store in Kentucky and it was called like Amazing Pets or something. Just some, you know, bird name. It's not Birds was called Amazing Pets or something. Just some bird name. It's not Birds Plus. That's for goddamn sure.

Birds Plus. There's one place in California called Discount Birds, which I don't like that name. No. I don't like that. No, that's not nice. I don't like that. Everyone matters. Every bird matters.

Right. No bird left behind. Oh my God, she's running. Right. Oh my God, she's running. They're eating the birds. They're eating the birds. They're eating the birds. It's getting a little more sober.

It's getting worse. It's getting soberer. And I don't know, I was at the, and there was a cockatoo. Cockatoos are so crazy and scary because they're all white and they have big black eyes. And they are so emo and emotional and scary. And this one was in a cardboard box and he was walking out of the box and then looking at me and then slowly backing back in the box that's like come in here bitch that's you need that bird and the energy of these birds sometimes i won't hurt you

yeah that's all giving scary tricksy yeah and you talk saying i love you back to the bird really genuinely caused some concern well i read this read this book called The Family Crucible, and they said that we, in relationships, try to play out family dynamics that we saw when we were younger. So what does it say that I want to get close to something that's like, I won't hurt you, but I'm going to. What does it say? What do you think? Well, I'm opening for Cyndi Lauper.

What? In November. Where? San Francisco and Palm Springs. I'm opening for Cyndi Lauper what? in November where? San Francisco and Palm Springs I'm DJing before Cyndi Lauper's show that'd be pretty fun

if anybody wants to come I might November in Palm Springs? yeah who's to say what I might do I might swing by and swim by the Trixie Motel and have a drink

have a go and have a pint who's that? that's just Scotland you all of it it's all of it go and have a pint who's that that's just Scotland you all of it it's all of it do you like to have a pint

you're an incredible actor actually I know you really embodied that character just now well you know when I did English Teacher I said you know Brian I only know how to really be tricksy I don't know how to like do and I only know how to do theater acting

which is like me in a wig screaming you know he was like basically for this show for this character he's like don't play any of the jokes just read the line and throw it away and the more you downplay it the funnier on camera it will be and i was like that sounds crazy but he was right that's great advice i never done tv actor anything my assistant has and stuff and i was like how do you he was like well the camera reads everything he said the camera if you just think of something the camera, if you just think of something, the camera will read you thinking

it. Like, you don't have to play concerned. Think about being concerned about that and the camera will read. I'm like, that's weird and crazy. It's just, it's stripping it all down from the stage back to like very small, basic stuff because you have to telegraph everything on the stage. Yeah. Which you're so used to.

But you like, you know, if if you're if you're upset on stage you have to fucking throw your arms but if you're upset in the show you can just just let it be in the face because the camera will get all of it i think acting is really crazy it is really crazy do you ever get drunk on the fake wine pardon do you remember when lady remember that like actors like roundup with all these female actresses were like remember they were all talking about acting and gaga was like, does anybody else feel drunk when you drink the prop wine? And all the other actresses had to act like that was normal,

out of all to say. I don't remember that. Oh, it was literally like Kirsten Dunst like... Kirsten Dunst was like, no, hon. No, bitch. No, I'm not getting drunk off the prop line did you watch the joker program you swore up the joker program the program the new lady gaga joker program yeah i didn't see it did you

no because i didn't see the first joker right but i love comic book shit and i love dc and i love batman but i didn't watch the first j, because remember the type of person that loved that first movie? Of course I do. I was like, I'm going to hate this. Yeah. But now I've heard that they hate the second one, so I'm like, I'm going to love this. You might love the second one. Because that Gaga shit, line it up.

I will follow that bitch to space. I love her. I think we are alive at the same time as, you know, there's people who we're just lucky to be alive at the same time as. Name them.

Her. Right. Missy Elliott. Sure. Obviously Beyonce. Right. You. Thank you, finally.

Honestly, Rue. Rue. And, there's a lot of them. Like, Devo, I think we're all lucky

to be alive. Well, I guess they're kind of like, they were lucky to be alive, although they're all alive. But honestly, people. What do you mean they were lucky to be alive? Well, I don't know if all those members of the band are still alive. Right.

So I can't say. Right. I'm just happy to be on the list. Dolly. Of course, Dolly. Of course, Dolly. You know, Serena Williams. Yes.

Greatest of all time yes my god by the way you swore up and down before this before we got on mic that you were gonna ask me some questions about me this whole time i've just been asking you about the driver's license and it's your second time on the show tricksy things are gotta evolve a little bit well who would you add to that list like what you think we're lucky to be alive at the best the best best of us you don't do that you i mean it you um oh god natalie mainz lead singer of the chicks girl girl girl you want to talk oh my gosh i do want to talk i listen to that music a lot during the break oh good fly uh no no they're new shit oh yeah gaslighter yeah you're gaslighter um how do you sleep at night that shit oh um taking the long way taking the long way around they are so amazing and

obviously i don't have to tell you what happened to them was insane you don't have to tell me about it you ever seen shut up and sing of course thank you yeah god you're so real and this is i've been saying you're real and everyone's been pushing back on me trixie's not real trixie's fake trixie's fake Everyone I've ever talked to. But I say Trixie is real. Everyone also thinks I'm Bill Gates. So financially. Yeah.

They think you're a. No, they really do. They think you're a billionaire. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're not doing bad. Last time I was here, I made $50. Well, you did.

I guess I remember I did end up paying you. Yeah. I remember you asking, but I'm remembering that I also did pay you. That was my first Apple Pay. Was it? Like somebody sending Apple Cash. Aww. I was wondering where I got that money from the other day, because it's still in there.

So you needed it badly then. You took it from me and you didn't even use it. Well, I'm saving it. Oh, that's so special. Oh, I lost a lot of money at those horse races, by the way. Did you? I don't know why people are gambling i grew up just off the reservation we're like if any like my mom worked at a casino my stepdad works at casino so i think people who work at

casinos are like what the fuck are these people doing yeah come here just throw your money away i don't think i'll ever do that again why did you bet on did you bet on horses how did you choose uh well i just picked names that were compelling to me. Right. Like one of them was named one of them was one of them was named like, I don't know. I was just, whatever in the moment spoke to me.

Because the horses have crazy names. They do. They're not like Ralph and Stephanie and they're not like and they're not like Seabiscuit and Rocket. The horse's names are like, love is a battlefield. The horse's names are like, the truth will set you free. Yeah.

They're like whole sentences. For sure. Ralph and Stephanie would be fun horse names. I also went to a horse farm to see where these retired superstar athlete horses go, where they get retired and then they get studded out, which is where they get prostituted. Right. For their semen. To inseminate.

Yeah. And some of these star superstar athlete horses, let's say you had a horse and you wanted this famous horse to impregnate. Guess how much it is? Minimum. Okay. I want to get my horse pregnant with a famous champion horse. It's going to cost me.

And they're doing everything. They're inseminating all that stuff. It is a guaranteed baby. So it's not just once they will, if it doesn't take you do it again until it takes, I'm going to pay 500,000 for that. That's, that's I think crazy,

but it was closer to like two 50. Okay. So thanks for kind of ruining that. Sorry. You just built it up in a way that, oh, horse names. Forever Young. Oh yeah, do you see what I'm saying? Catching Freedom. Honor Marie.

Resilience. Gran Mo the First. Epic Ride. Who would you bet on of these? Well, Fierceness. Right. See, sometimes I just wait for a name. You know, the first four races I won money.

And then I started getting drunk and confident. Yeah. So then I started being like, hmm, well. And then putting more money down. And then it was like, oh, shit. I lost $200 that race. You lost $200 because you bet on domestic product. Well, I bought.

And well, then I, you know, I'm a lifelong vegetarian. I started to think ethically,ically, do I align with this? Do these horses like this? I don't know. I don't know. But I at least got to experience it. I would say they probably don't. Yeah.

Because they're working. Right. You're on hiatus. They're at work. This is their drag. Well, they're probably watching my YouTube videos. They probably are. Everyone is.

Yeah. Well, it just got served to them, and now it's like... Everyone. It's in the lineup now. Well, we had guests on the YouTube channel while I was gone, which was nice. Other drag queens came in and did YouTube videos. Yeah, I didn't get asked to participate. Well, you don't do drag.

Mad. Mad at me that you don't do drag. Well, put me in drag then. What would you do if you were a drag queen? Has anybody asked? What would your... Because we were talking about this before the show. Not you, but... I'd love to sit home and watch Drag Race or whatever and, like, what would your, because we were talking about this before the show. Not you,

but love to sit home and watch like Drag Race or whatever and be like, if I was on that runway, they could not take me. I feel that way. It's like, really, bitch? You can't brush hair. Right.

You can't do makeup. You can't walk in heels. You can't dance. You can't tell a goddamn joke. You can't. What would you do if you got out there? I'm not saying you,

just like the proverbial. What would you do? you got out there i'm not saying you just like the proverbial what would what would you do go to an amateur show and that you'll see what that would do that will put on an akira jumpsuit and whatever song is currently on the radio that they like and they walk in a fucking circle do you know they walk in a circle now you know what i would do i would do I would dress like the horse from Stepmom with Julia Roberts and Susan Sarandon she has cancer I would dress like the cancer horse

and I would do a routine as the cancer horse from Stepmom that's the kind of shit I'd be doing was it last episode with Trixie that we talked about my two drag names Kayla Barron and Kayla Barron so there's okay kay la baron one drag name for me or kayla baron so it's like do i want to go classy do i want to go trashy what do you think i like baron well it sounds like kayla baron no i get that so do you get do you understand baron like can't have kids yeah okay do you want to do you understand? But Barron like can't have kids. Yeah. Do you want me to do Barron like that?

Yeah, Kayla Barron. Kayla Barron. Yeah. That's kind of fun. Yeah. And I play a Barron woman who like all she wanted was kids, but she can't have them. Do you want kids? Absolutely.

I think they're fun. I think they're fun too. And I feel really good about adopting. I think we would be good at raising kids together, you and me. This is moving fast. Yeah. This is moving really fast. Well, stop flirting with me and we won't move fast.

And I think I've been talking to a lot of celebrity people about like, they have kids and I go, how do you do that? How do you have kids? And they all go, well, just patience and time and you have to want it. Oh, we also have three nannies. Exactly correct. The help. And I have, I, I, from a culture where nobody had a nanny.

Right. Right. We couldn't afford nannies. Right. Right. You just spin the, you know, mobile above the crib and leave the kids at home whatever but i just feel like if i had a kid i would really try not to have help because why would i adopting adopting costs what 250 000 might as well get fucked by the horse you know what i mean like but it costs

250 000 and then what i'm gonna pay someone else to take care of it. Does adopting cost $250,000? Oh, like 200. Yeah. Does it? Oh yeah. I also love that you said, might as well get fucked by the horse.

Like that doesn't, wouldn't get you a kid still like you. There's nothing, there's nothing in that that would get you what you want. I get something I want. Nice. Nice. I like that.

God. What do you, I have to ask you this, uh, overall 40,000 to 70,000 for domestic infant adoption in California. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. Well, that's from AmericanAdoptionsOfCalifornia.com.

A front. Yeah. That's a fucking front. That's a front for big adoption. They get you in for $70,000 and then they fleece you for the other $130,000. Yeah. I don't know. I guess it's also okay. Part of me thinks you thinks you adopt right and then part of me thinks i guess

if you want to produce a child too there's a lot of ways to do that i'm going surrogate okay i'm going i'm like asking a friend like will you carry will you take my seed and will you carry my child that's what i'm asking someone just went went, ugh, over there. It was take my seed. What's ugh about this? Yeah, a beautiful gay man wanting to raise a family. My seed repulses you. Do you feel strong about proliferating your genes? You know, no. But I am the last of my, like if I don't have kids, my name dies with me. Heron.

Okay. I'm the last of my name. There's no other uh people uh to do it you think that no one in the world is named heron in my family in my bloodline now do i actually care about that no but my dad did mention it to me a couple times before he died oh shit he would he would just it would be really random it would just be like literally like we'd be at dinner and he'd be like and don't forget you're the last of our bloodline and i'd be like okay that's fantastic but yeah so that is that's present in the mind that's tough i mean i i don't parenting and having children is something that i don't even pretend to

act like i know a fucking thing about i find it hard to be even critical of my own parents or mother or anything because i'm like i'm not gonna act like i know do you know my mom trixie do you know my mom sent me the other day i wonder what you'll think of this my mom sent me this uh tiktok she's on tiktok now um she sent me this tiktok have you on there oh yeah she said i wish she put some clothes on you're the only one her fans love it she sent me a tiktok that's like a sunset with words over it and it's set to music and it says if my children come to me as adults and tell me they need to heal from something i did in their childhood they won't be met with denial or the feeling of being dismissed instead they'll hear i'm sorry that i wasn't more careful with my own trauma but it's

okay to let it go now and hand it back to me dang she sent me she sent me that no con she sent me that no context middle of the day. And I said, love you. And she said, love you. Well, the older I get, I feel what your mom's saying. Because the older I get, the more I'm like, God, I'm 35. If I was my mom, I would have had, I think, four kids right now. Yeah. And I don't know fucking anything.

You really don't. So I think when we're kids, we think the adults know everything. And then you get their age and you're like, they don't know anything. You're 35? Yeah. I didn't know that. I just turned 35. Happy birthday. You thought I was older. No, I don't know anything. You're 35? Yeah. I didn't know that. I just turned 35. Happy birthday.

You thought I was older. No, I don't think I thought of you as having an age. I think of you as very, you're just sort of timeless. You thought I was older. Well, I got a text from my mom. I said, forgot to mention, I'm on a new English teacher on FX that started today.

I mean, a new show called English Teacher on FX that started today. And I sent a picture of me and Brian on the show. And Aunt Gooch said, my Aunt Gooch, she said, intriguing. Well, it is. And my mom said, interesting. Well, it is. And was that it?

That's it. I love that. That's all they said. I love that you texted them. Because if I'm not on and if I don't tell them exactly where it is and how to watch it, I can't be mad later that they didn't watch it. Right. You care that they see your stuff, though. I want to give them the opportunity.

Yeah, I think that's beautiful. But they don't really care and they don't think I'm funny or interesting, which I think is healthy. I think it's good. Like, I don't know. If my mom was like, I want to go on tour and watch every one of your shows, that would be my nightmare. Yeah, we don't want her there every night. No, the shit I say about her, about everything, about sex, nobody starts doing drag for their mom. No.

You know? Well, maybe these days. You never know. Oh, well, the girls are. Well, Kati and I are at the age now in drag where people are like, I started doing drag because I watched you in middle school. How does that feel? Horrible. Yeah.

Horrible. I can imagine. Yeah. I don't like the idea that you and Katya are molding the future, like the youth. Well, sometimes I hear shit that we've said on the shows parroted by someone who doesn't know who we are. They just heard that phrase through the world. Yeah.

Oh, and you're hearing them say it in a way that's like, they're not telling it to you, just heard it through the world. And I'm like, oh, they don't know that it came from my loins. It's born of my seed. Yeah, born of my seed. I went to Cracker Barrel. Okay. I heard you and Brittany talk about it.

I love Cracker Barrel. It was delicious. Yeah, right? It was a Sunday. There was lots of families there probably were at church. I'm going to cry. Lots of iPad kids, which always, I don't want to say I'm Amish. I don't want to say what I would do if I was a parent.

Right. The iPad kid thing. Girl, get the f*** off the TV. Get the f*** off the TV. I'm not watching that. Yeah, exactly. Yes. Whatever happened to the burping?

Whatever happened to, you know, whatever happened to kids sitting bored? Whatever happened to the burping? Do you you know whatever happened to kids sitting bored you know much of my childhood i spent bored yeah what if i'm a board i have a question for you what are you gonna relax after this break now do you think yeah like right now i work only every other week like i just flat out during my break started blocking off whole months of the whole weeks of the calendar. And then next summer, I'm probably taking off again three months. Really? Yeah.

Girl, drag is cute. It's not that serious. We're not heart surgeons. We're not gym kind of planes. My workaholism ran so deep and so crazy that I got so sick and lost so much weight and just cried all the time. And I was like, what are we doing? This is disrespectful to the art form. It's disrespectful to myself. And most importantly importantly the people that choose to watch me it's sick to sit

down here in a wig and not enjoy it it's sick to cover up that you're tired and that you don't feel funny that day and like it's it's sad it's sad i started to feel like a tricksy impersonator i put on the blonde wig and a little dress and go say the shit and go home and be like i felt nothing that was sad you know i do absolutely i know and i don't ever want to do that again so i think tricksy as an industrial complex i'm okay to let that kind of go away i mean i used to be an artist and i just felt like for the last couple years i was like a product are you feeling artistic again no very much so Very much so. I love to talk and do comedy. I play my guitar and sing all the time again.

Getting ready for some DJ dates coming up and just not overworking. What are you singing lately? Well, I'm writing a bunch of new music because on my break I just had, I was Amish. So I just had my guitar and nothing to do and I was writing like a song a day. Really? It'd come out like a sneeze. Sit down and write

it out and then move on. Plus I made this rule for myself where I'd be like, if you have a song idea, don't get up until it's done. And then because of DJing, I got a lot more into musical production. So this time around, writing the music, I know how to use my music production software so I can burn out demos. My old way was very analog.

I would just sit with the iPhone microphone and play the song and send it away to, what do you think of this? Should we make this, you know? Yeah. And now I just have a lot more fun experimenting, playing different music, synthesizers. Also, DJing really scrambled my understanding of music. In drag, everything is a regurgitation and a reflection of culture and something else.

And in DJing, everything's like collage. It's a bunch of sounds put together to make a new sound. And I think my approach to writing music, I've gotten less precious about it. It doesn't have to be good because good doesn't mean anything. Nothing about what we're doing as artists. Making something good means nothing. It means nothing because what is good? Everybody thinks something different is good. Your favorite song is someone else's least favorite song yeah my least favorite song

of all time is Hey Ya by Outkast people love that song why do you hate it? there's one part of it that drives me nuts the part where it's like

alright alright alright alright alright alright alright I can't stand it you don't think it's kind of fun? alright alright alright alright like that drove you crazy just now I can't stand it. You don't think it's kind of fun? All right, all right, all right, all right. Like that drove you crazy just now.

Yeah. Damn. Damn. I hate to hear that. I think that's a great song. So your point is well taken. That's what I'm saying. I know that there's something wrong with me

if we're not liking that song. Right. I know that that's just a weird, I find that thing weirdly annoying. Yeah. That's okay Do you think that Outkast thinks that song is not good Because I don't think it's good

Of course not It doesn't matter Do you think Outkast would like playing that song I bet he has a blast I bet live people I bet it's nuts I do like that part of the song That little thing

I like that It's like a little toy piano part of the song. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. That little thing. I like that. What part of the song is that? I don't think I know it. It's like a little toy piano part in the background. It came out when I think was in high school, so I remember hearing it just all the time. I was really, really addicted when I was younger to their song, Roses. Your roses really smell like doo-doo-doo. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

I liked that song. When I was a kid, I remember reading an interview with the Spice Girls, and all the Spice Girls had to answer what song was their least favorite song. And I remember Victoria Beckham, Posh Spice, saying that she hated the B-52's Love Shack. Whoa. And I remember being like, I didn't think anyone hated this song. And that's like a lifelong thing of like, wow, some people just hate something that other people love. Yeah. What's... Go ahead. lifelong thing of like wow some people just hate something that other people love yeah what is go

ahead one of my other big ones is did you know um 27 record labels passed on joan jett's i love rock and roll because they said it wasn't a hit damn did you know that walt disney was fired from his first job at a newspaper because he lacked creativity and michael jordan was cut from his high school basketball team i love shit like that i love shit like that i do i actually unironically do too are you following horse mafia no you gotta get on horse mafia you gotta get on horse mafia on instagram they're posting shit every day is it about horses honey in some ways yes but no it's like they'll post like every every single day they make like seven posts custom posts a day and they'll be like like this grown means nothing

as a mother a child as a child they get bigger older but grown in a mother's heart each will always be her baby or they'll post like happy wednesday time to get up and have a coffee and say our prayers buy me a daily one do you follow that guy who's like a corporate guy he's like hey guys today's this one go back go back go back go back go back go back my prayer for this wednesday is that my family and friends stay safe happy and healthy and it's got a little what do you think of that i'm going back on break okay okay i follow this guy well i don't know his name is because he always shows up on my feed and because he says um he's like a corporate guy and he'll be like hey guys today's the day yeah go in hustle give it 110 yeah yeah i know this guy

the face is what did it yeah he's got like spiky dark hair and really spacey little teeth yeah and i just i can't help but love the energy because it's like so misplaced yeah that level of enthusiasm for corporate life i think is wild it is wild but honestly he's going to work and excited about it he's got it figured out he's got to get it you got to get it up one way or another yeah one way or another it's got to get up hey guys today's the day go in give it 110 and then trump it and then would you do trump no um wait, wait. What was that starting as?

What are you guys doing here? That's what it was going into. They gave it 110%. They said it couldn't be done. Yeah, you love it. But it was done and it was huge. You love huge and you love they said it couldn't be done. It was great. Everything about it was great.

Even better than China. Yeah. You're good. It's not good. It is. And I hate that I've consumed enough content by way of watching the news that I know about that. What's your favorite Trump moment of all time? I don't have one.

I do. I do. It's what I've said before. This week he said that he participated in a peaceful transfer of power last time. Yeah. Pretty cool. Love delusion. Because he didn't.. Yeah. Pretty cool. Love delusion. Because he did.

Love fantasy. Pretty cool. I love storytelling. When he says shit like that, it's like, we're watching an animated, just made up fantasy situation. I love when you sing.

Thank you. I do. My favorite is when he told the photographers at his and Kim Jong-un's meeting, make us look thin and handsome. He told the press pool with Kim Jong-un's meeting. Make us look thin and handsome. He told the press pool with Kim Jong-un to make them look thin and handsome.

I'm sorry, but that's awesome. Make me look handsome. Bitch, you look like you have barbecue sauce on your face. What are you talking about? Kim Jong-un was literally like... Even Kim Jong-un was like This guy's nuts Should we leave? Should we get out of here?

Hey we got a voicemail Put those headphones on I beg of you You got a pair over there? I probably sound overtly political I just think it's important to tell people that I'm voting No I like that you're voting I like that you're voting for Kamala I did as well

I already voted Well it's not the perfect candidate really bitch if you were outside and you were freezing which is our situation right now would you not put on the winter coat because it wasn't the one you wanted right that was the winter coat on bitch you're real as fuck star wars cut open the animal crawl inside oh does that happen in star wars yeah yeah but i don't know if it i've never seen it it's fun to talk to you in these. Wait, what's the voicemail? Hi, Caleb.

So true. And esteemed guest. Thanks for just being y'all. I have a question about contemporary art. Mostly, what is it? Who is Jeff Koons? Who is Banksy? Oh, God.

Where do NFTs fall within all of this? I don't understand it. So if y'all could shed some light, that would be super great. Thanks again. Love you. Bye, sweetie. Well, love their energy. You know Jeff Koontz?

I do not know what you're talking about. I don't know what any of this is. Jeff Koontz is that, I almost put artist in quotes, which would be mean. But Jeff Koontz is the guy who made like the sculpture of the uh balloon animal dog oh they sell at the airport he does those things they sell at the airport yeah yeah this jeff koontz i don't like his stuff i don't like it he makes me mad i don't like the bunnies i don't like his stuff i don't like his stuff i don't like his stuff i don't think he's i don't think he's fun i don't like it i fucking hate that i hate jeff koontz like i don't like his stuff. I don't like his stuff. I don't think he's, I don't think he's fun. I don't like it. I fucking hate that.

I hate Jeff Koons. Like, I don't like his stuff. Like, and you look at him too. He's like, Oh God, I just don't like him.

I'm sorry. I there's, I'm a hater. Show me that yellow picture. He looks pumped. Tina Aguilera. I see an F word. He's got to be right.

There's no chance. He's not right. Girl city girl. And he's not, right? Girl. City. Girl. And he's the chancellor. He's the chancellor of city. A gay guy to his... Yeah, I just don't like his work.

What do you think? Is it moving you? You know, honestly, one of my worst traits is that I have almost no connection to the world of visual arts. I didn't enjoy art classes in high school. I don't like going to art museums museums it just does not stimulate me so like gun to my head i could not tell you what art is good or bad i don't know i'm not interested in good or bad i do think art should evoke i mean you know his art does evoke emotion in me it pisses me off can i say that in art i like when people play with scale i like giant things that usually are small and small things that are usually giant.

Yeah. I love, I just sit at the Milwaukee Discovery World and they have a tiny version of Milwaukee. I love like a tiny version of a city. That's fun. And I love- Do you walk over it? Sometimes they'll put those in like a glass floor and you can walk on top of the small city. No.

Wouldn't that be fun though? I've been to one of those. Didn't get to do that. But then I also love when it's a small thing they make giant yeah you ever been to the world's largest rocking chair no a lot of fun it's big wow it's big it's way bigger than you'd think oh my god it's way bigger than you think illinois is it in illinois i bet it's huge oh it's massive you you're gonna go into it thinking like oh it's a rocking chair it's but it's big honey it's bigger than you even think yeah i don't i don't really care for that yeah um and banksy i i mean i my only my only um response to that is i've seen the video of someone buying

the art and then the second the art gets purchased it shreds itself do you know about that yeah i think that's cool i think that is pretty cool i think it's funny to take people's money and then the second the art gets purchased it shreds itself do you know about that yeah i think that's cool i think that is pretty cool i think it's funny to take people's money and then do this yeah banksy in general feels a little like 2012 what are we doing but that is pretty cool i like i like making someone waste a bunch of money i think that's funny yeah i mean it's like when makeup brands have mystery boxes yeah here's your brown lip balm or whatever you know like i don't know whatever they're putting in there. Random shit. You don't know what it is.

You going to do one? You know, I hate to be a hater because I bet in some of these mystery boxes, you do get great shit. Yeah. Well, it's like when you go to the thrift shop and they, or the, like a clothes sale and they're like, oh, here's just random mystery bag in your size. Right. Like Big Bud will do that sometimes. I don't know if I would like that. I don want to miss make up mystery box and i don't want a clothing mystery box i'd rather just have less but know what i'm gonna get yeah same with that's

why i have a problem with gambling you're gonna throw away money because you might get money you just did that but i wanted to experience the culture yeah it was a cultural thing yeah and i went in with 400 cash and i i had enough to drink and then go home, so I don't know. That's pretty beautiful. It was fine. I liked it, and I would go like once a year for the culture of it. What's something you've loved recently? Oh, my gosh.

Well, the Gypsy Rose Blanchard Life After Lockup show was awesome. She has a reality show? Yeah, so it starts with literally the cameras following her getting out of jail and going to buy shoes because she's leaving jail with no belongings. Do you know how connected I am to her? She did that murder in the town where I went to college. And then she was locked up at the women's prison that my mom used to work at in my hometown. Yeah. I'm very connected.

I love Love is Blind. I've never seen it. Okay, Love is Blind. I've never seen it. Okay. Love is Blind is awesome. It's a show where they have, it would be like me and you dating and there's a wall between you and we can't see each other. Right. And so we have to fall in love just based on our voices. Wouldn't like that. You can't say what you look like.

You can't say how tall you are, what you weigh, your ethnicity, how long you're, like you can't say I have long hair. You can't say anything. It's just, what are your beliefs? Do you want children? What's your sense sense of humor the sound of your voice and it's an experiment to see whether or not people can fall in love without their their maybe proclivity for their usual type getting in the way yeah because a lot of times they fall in love being like i would have never talked to you in a bar they i love you they do do you think they're genuinely falling in love multiple people a season get married. Oh, you know what we have?

I'm going to win more money. Trixie, I'm going to tell you 15 statements. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can if you think they're true or false. Do you know why I win this? Why? Because I'm part psychic. And by part, I mean whole thing. What?

I'm dead serious. i'm very intuitive i think you're intuitive but you're not a whole psychic i don't think what part what well if not whole then how much how much psychic i would say maybe if you i think you do have really strong intuition i think you're somebody who knows the world and pays attention i would would say if I were to make that a percentage psychic, maybe you're like 25% psychic. Do you think if I work with the FBI, I could find a dead body? Yes. I do too. I'm dead serious.

You'd be good in a mind hunter situation. Yeah. Let's say someone was murdered and this was their cup of coffee. I think I could be like, they're in Sarasota, Florida. Right. So that I don't believe. Okay. That's where I would cut you off.

Right. And I would say maybe if we had a little bit more evidence, you would get there. Okay. You're hurt. When you die, I guess I'm just not going to find you. No. Don't say that. What if they need your help?

Okay. I'll find you. Nice. I'm going to tell you 15 statements. You're going to tell me as quick as you can if you think they're true or false. If you get 10 or more correct, you're going to get 50 US dollars. You're the only person who's ever asked for the money. Why is that like

so crazy? I'm sorry all these other people are balling. I don't need $50. Every single one of them has less money than you. Okay, here we go. My Uber to Birds Plus the other day was $33 there and back. That's $66 to look at birds and say, I love you. And you were talking back to them, which I do want to talk about off camera.

Okay. Human teeth are the only body part that can't heal themselves. That's true. True. The Green Bay Packers won the first Super Bowl. That's true. True. Baby rabbits are called cubs.

Not true. False. Kits. The longest time between twins being born was 90 days. That's true. That's true. Ken Doll's full name is ken richard dolloway not true false kenneth sean carson the airplane was invented in kitty hawk south carolina false it's false it's north carolina the spanish national anthem has no lyrics anthem has no lyrics true it's true fuck all you fucking can all fucking doubt me and my fucking powerful mind all of you sat here and all of you wait is there more left

there's so many more left facebook There's so many more left. Facebook is older than Timothy Chalamet. That's true. That's false. Pride begets a major downfall. That is so... You were on a roll. The current city manager for Palm Springs, California is Scott Stiles.

True. True. Will Ferrell's character on The Office was named D'Angelo Nightwood. No, it's D'Angelo Vicar. Yeah, you're correct. Dolly Parton is the youngest of 12 children. She is. False.

She's the fourth child. Owls can fly up to 90 miles per hour. That is not true. It's true. She's the fourth of the 12. I'm talking about the owls. What? Oh, false.

Yeah, you're right. 40 miles per hour. The comic book superhero Storm is a member of the Justice League. No, Justice League is DC, right? She's Marvel? It's false. False. It's X-Men.

There is no letter Q in any US state name. Is there a time limit? Why would this be the one? Why would this be the one why would this be the one because i feel like that moment dropped a gorgeous she's like alabama a-l-a-b-a-m-a um i think that's true it's true over 80 of earth's oceans are totally unexplored oh yeah the deep part true true 13 wow every one of you wow can sit over there yeah has anybody ever no one's been better than me i was the greatest that ever lived see if i got i might have 50 right here let's see what we got in here has anybody ever done better than that i don't want to get one wrong too wrong here you need to find me ten dollars later babe i'm gonna find your body when you're dead because i know shit oh i shit i i'm

moving up i got 60 this time you owe me ten dollars trixie girl and don't check your phone right now no i'm gonna try to do the apple pay back to you oh that's really cute let's do it oh i love that for us. Is there anything else you want to tell people? Oh, you still need to. Okay, well, it's different because you're our first repeat guest. You're our first repeat guest ever. Yeah.

What's so true to you right now? Oh, my gosh. You know, oh, my gosh. I'm going to tell you. Money's just money. Right. Work is just work. Right.

Items are just items. People are like here and gone. Yeah. People are here and gone. Yeah. Here and gone. And I think it's so true that nobody's ever on their deathbed like I wish I had worked more. Yeah.

Make time for people. Your mom. Call your brother you don't talk to. Try to make a better relationship with your roommate try to heal your relationship at work with your co-worker you hate just like be nice and make time for people and be sweet you're on some wholesome love shit lately yeah that because none of this none of this shit matters that light doesn't matter this couch doesn't matter but like you and i having fun today is the reason we're here absolutely these people

are watching not because of the incredible quality microphones and lighting but because you and I having fun today is the reason we're here. Absolutely. These people are watching not because of the incredible quality microphones and lighting, but because you and I are connecting and that's like fun and magical. It absolutely is. I'm on the same thing. I really just want to connect and have fun and be my, my joy. I'm like trying to have joy. That's it. Yeah.

That's all I want. You can have it. You can have it too. I literally love you to death. I love you. I'm so happy to be here. have me back again i'll have you back what are you doing tomorrow oh gosh i gotta do pod stuff with kati tomorrow i'm actually going to do it with her later fuck today yeah she and i have some pre-taping to do tomorrow and then san diego on friday i'm djing for a fundraiser uh in san diego is there do you want to tell people where

to find you i'm pretty much everywhere at Trixie Mattel and on YouTube at Trixie and I would invite you all. When does this come out? Probably the next couple weeks, like two, three weeks.

Oh, great. It's a little early, but our holiday collection at Trixie Cosmetics this year is so cute. Y'all are going to die and it's a really giftable item, so check it out.

Hell yeah. I love it. I love you. Thanks for being here. Thank you all. Goodbye. Thanks for the tell. What do you know? That was a HateGum Podcast.