Sober Motivation: Sharing Sobriety Stories - Frankie Loyal of Mayans M.C shares his story of sobriety of 20+ years

Episode Date: December 10, 2022

In this episode, we have Frankie Loyal who has been 20+ years sober. Frankie plays Hank in the hit tv show Mayans and he credits his success to his sobriety. Frankie had a tough time fitting in early on in life and was on a destructive path to nowhere fast.  He was able to find his people and follow some suggestions, which made all the difference. This is Frankie’s story on the sober motivation podcast.    Get The SoberBuddy App Follow SoberMotivation on Instagram Follow Frankie Loyal on Instagram

Welcome back to season two of the Subur Motivation Podcast. Join me, Brad, each week is my guests and I share incredible and powerful sobriety stories. We are here to show sobriety as possible, one story at a time. Let's go. On this episode, we have Frankie Loyal, who has 20-plus years sober. Frankie plays Hank and the hit TV show Mayans, and he credits all of his success to his sobriety. Early on in his life, Frankie had a tough time fitting in and was on a destructive path to nowhere fast.

He was able to find his people, follow some suggestions, and that made all the difference. This is Frankie's story on the sober motivation podcast. Sober buddy has added a brand new community section to the app. I can't wait for you all to check out the new live Zoom groups we host two times per day. You can also plug into the news feed and private groups that are also available. So track your sober days and get connected with others all in one place. Download the sober buddy app today in your favorite app store and give it a try and be sure to sign up for the live hosted Zoom groups. You can catch me Monday, Wednesday, and Friday in the app.

All righty, let's get to the episode. Welcome back to another episode of the Suburmotivation podcast. Today we've got my friend Frankie. Frankie loyal from the hit TV show Mayans on FX. Frankie plays a character named Hank and Frankie you've got 20 years sober. Is that right? 20 years. Yeah, 2002.

Wow, that's incredible. How are you doing today? I'm doing good. I'm glad to be here. It's a nice thing we're doing here. Perfect. Thank you so much for taking time to do this. I really appreciate it.

I know the listeners will as well. Why don't we jump right in? you just get us started at the beginning of your life. Oh, geez. Well, that's the long one. I mean, I'm hitting 53, so I got a few years under my belt. Let me see. Well, I was born out in Southern California out in the desert area, but family relocated

up to Northern California. My father was a law enforcement officer, which, you know, led into a bunch of other things growing up as a kid. But, you know, he and my mother both, well, my father was an orphan. My mother came from a household where she only had a mother in the household. So there was a lot of alcoholism on both sides of the family. You know, for the tools that my parents weren't given and how they ended up turning out, you know, within their lives for not just me, but my sisters. They did a damn good job.

Me, I kind of went on the wayside quite a bit. And, you know, I was just, I think I was an introverted kid. I was really into science fiction movies and Kiss albums and Bowie albums. And I kind of was into that trip. And I don't know, way back then, if you were off the cup, people definitely let you know that you were different. And I think the seeds of the Bailey Nation were already kind of there anyway. And that kind of, I think, builds up with a lot of internal messaging.

You give yourself growing up that isn't always on point because you don't really comprehend everything. But I fell myself into drinking. drugs not so much. I got in a lot of trouble as a teenager drinking. It ended up in juvie or in jail overnight here and there. I wasn't a good drinker. Yeah. Gotcha on that.

What was high school like for you? I went to like six or seven of them, if I remember correctly. I got, unfortunately got kicked out of most of them. And it wasn't on purpose. You know, I always liked reading growing up. I was always fascinated. with, you know, everything from philosophy and mythologies and anything a little more on the artistic, artistic end, you know, literature.

And I read a lot. My whole thing was I just didn't feel like I fit in in a population of teenagers. I don't know if I just felt like I didn't want to be part of it, so I made myself, you know, unavailable. I just felt myself expelled a lot. and I liked learning. That was the downside. It wasn't I didn't like learning or I didn't want to take in knowledge,

but I don't think I was really buying into the whole program that back then they, you know, they put on people. You know, resisting causes a lot of problems, especially when you're younger. Yeah, that's the truth.

I mean, I can relate to that. I never felt like I fit in and I had countless problems and stuff with, with high school and getting along with people being, being part of stuff was. definitely problems. So alcohol comes into your life and what does that look like? I ran away from home a lot and, you know, I fell myself in the punk rock, you know, hardcore, hardcore singer up in the 80s. So I really, I still am very much, you know,

embedded in that world because you had kids that were rejects, social misfits, people that didn't fit in so well. But there was kind of a, there was, there was a common ground with a lot of people back that. We stuck together and kind of had my own tribe and I didn't feel so alone. And still, I mean, some of the people I, you know, was out on the streets, but there's still some of my dearest friends. But, you know, there was drugs. There was alcohol. A lot of people. people from that time that I was close with, there's a small handful of us left. A lot of them didn't make it. But if it wasn't for them, I don't think I would have got through my teenage years or my younger years. So I'm grateful to them. Yeah, I hear you on that for sure. So what,

so after high school, what did that look like for you after those years? Oh, gosh. You know, I was just telling somebody this the other night. I remember being, 18 and 19, I was in a punk band and we were recording out in the middle of nowhere. And it was one of these areas where it was these flatlands of just dead land everywhere. And the sun was just scorching and didn't have a car, didn't have a motorcycle, I didn't have anything. And I remember being a little out of my mind and walking out of the middle of this, I don't even know where it was.

I couldn't even find it to this day if I wanted to. And I remember thinking, this is it. this is as good as it's ever going to get. Like it will never get any better than this. And it was such a weird feeling. And I think that triggered a response for me just to kind of go out, everything head on very destructively, you know, up until, up until my 30s before I got sober. What led up to you wanting to get sober?

Was there rock bottom? We hear that term so often. Was there many rock bottoms? What was your experience? You know, I really, I was that guy that I did want to die. But I didn't want to die. But I didn't know why I wanted to live. And I would just have these blackout periods where I would get on my phone and book a

planning ticket to pull a geographic to Mexico or I'd take off, I want to book a ticket to New York just to go somewhere else. And I'd pass out and wake up the next day realizing I booked three plane tickets to, you know, go nowhere except, you know, more financial damage. And I just remember, you know, without getting too deep into it, thinking I was going to leave the planet one day. And I woke up one day and realized that I didn't. And I had a few friends that had gotten sober recently through our scene. I was living in San Francisco at the time. and I went to a men's group called B&O, which stands for Boys Night Out,

and it was a men's group with ex-cons and punk rockers and bikers and just the dirty dozen of the bunch in AA. You know, the people that would be too scared to talk to me. You know, and that was my first home group. And if it wasn't for my sponsor and the guys I had in that fellowship, I think I would have never gotten sober, you know. So when some people talk about doing 90 and 90, I did a little over 200 and something in 90.

I didn't have a job at the time because I wasn't employable. And I didn't want to drink and I didn't want to die. So I would go to sometimes three meetings a day, you know. And I was definitely, even at going to the meetings and doing the program on the steps, I was still white knuckling it. I was resistant. I was scared, confused. But I just, I had a feeling that was something I needed to hang on to.

And I'm glad I did, you know. Yeah. What about doing the 200 and something meetings in 90 days was helpful for you? You know, we get so self-centered and so into our own headspace that we think we're the only ones that have things going on. that we don't realize that there's a whole, you know, a whole tribe of us that have like-minded stories or examples to learn from or just the compassion, the empathy that you got from people, the kindness of strangers. Although I knew a lot of people in San Francisco, I just, you see people in a different light

when you see them in the rooms and you're vulnerable and you're open and, you know, you're a little bit on front street, you know, with your baggage and, I think that was just a huge thing for me, you know, knowing I, there was going to be another day. I was, I was going to see some familiarity that wasn't destructive. And it was good, it was good for my well-being better than I realized at the time. A lot of people, too, you know, if I know from my, my early experience with, with the rooms and all stuff, you find a place to belong. Like, I found a place to belong.

and I never had that before. The only places I really ever felt like I belonged to growing up were treatment settings, rehabs, psych wards, and fellowship meetings. And it definitely had that vibe to it, that feel to connect with people that were going through or had gone through stuff similar to me. So it was that connection I was craving for so long that I found in all the wrong places. So for once, I felt like I kind of found it in the right place. So that first time you went into this, it worked for you? You know, I would have to say yes, because if you saw the room full of guys that I was with, these are guys that I would see some of the punk rock shows,

either getting thrown out, getting into trouble. And, you know, we'd pass each other or see each other on the city bus on the way to or from somewhere. and to see how these guys were just different. Even though I always liked them, you know, as they were, wasn't. But it was just like, wow, really? This is how you're living now? You know, I kind of want to do this. And as much as I never wanted to belong to anything,

I kind of wanted to belong to that club. Still do. And there was something about it. Now, I do have to say there's some meetings that we all go to, I believe, I don't want to speak for everybody, but for myself that you feel really uncomfortable at and you do not feel like you can relate. to somebody's story.

It's, you know, even if you try, you just have that weird thing sometimes. But these are all guys that were kind of in the same, you know, boat as I was. You know, some better, some works. You know, we all been busted at one time. We were all kind of into the same vibe. We kind of got it, you know. I don't know if it was that subculture that we came up in that added to that. But it definitely, you know, made me stick around.

Yeah. And what day did you, when's your sober day? May 21st, 2002. I have a tattooed on my wrist. Oh, wow. Yeah. So it's pretty noticeable. So yeah, if I ever drop the ball, then it's going to go.

And I don't really think I want that. Yeah. And that's cool. When did motorcycles and all this stuff come into play? Well, when I was a kid, you know, know, I don't know how it is now, but, but, but is it as a young, young man, you know, Flash Gordon and Evil Caneval, guys like that, they were, they were my heroes. My little sister, Annie, her godfather, who I'm still close with to this day, he, his name

was Barstow Tommy. He was an old biker. And he, uh, would trick out choppers and, and motorcycles, and I would ride on the back of his, his bike when I was a kid. and he got me an easy writer poster when I was a kid. And my dad being a cop, keep in mind, you know, wasn't really all for me, having it up on the wall, but my mom kind of said, hey, let him do his thing. It wasn't until I watched the movie, I realized it didn't have about much to do with motorcycle.

But it just was something that kind of, you know, intrigued me. And, you know, it wasn't even just motorcycles. It was like BMX, you know, trick riding, you know, being a little bit crazy on the bikes, too. That's something that that was a, two-wheeled outlet for me as well. So, but today, you know, riding motorcycles for me is, that's just my rush sometimes. It's where I can kind of be in the moment, but also I can wander a little bit if traffic's not

too crazy or the conditions aren't too crazy and I can just, I just feel everything, you know, and it's very therapeutic. A lot of people who don't ride probably wouldn't understand it, But once you do it, it's just, it's part of you. And there's no way I would consider doing the writing I do if I was drinking or higher. It's just that, yeah, it's a sobering thought, you know? Yeah, no, that's super cool. So how did you get involved with the TV show then? Well, I auditioned for Sons, Sons of Anarchy.

It was another show that was part of, you know, we're part of the same universe. and didn't get a role. And I was bummed at the time, but that character was killed off. And, you know, if I had gotten that role at the time, which financially I desperately needed it, I wouldn't be on this show. But I kind of put it out there.

I mean, for me, I mean, the show's going on its technically fifth season, but sixth year because we had some delays with COVID and everything else. But it's been over 10 years for me. I knew there was going to be a spinoff of some sort. So I kind of put it out there in the universe years ago that this is just something I wanted to be part of. And, you know, I pretty much kicked the doors down at casting to be seen. Now, I've done acting for, you know, a little under 30 years. I've had good years and slow years.

But I wasn't having such a good time with the acting until, you know, the thing with Mayans happened. And that's, it's been a crazy ride. You know, there's been a lot to it. So what is the character that you play in the show and what's he like? Yeah, I play a guy named Hank Loza. He's the sergeant of arms. He's the enforcer of the club and he's a veteran club member. He's, you know, one of the older guys in the club.

And, you know, his job is to oversee the responsibilities and protection of the club. But he also has to be very diplomatic and firm when, you know, he has to put his fist down on things. But at the same time, you know, internally, he's a. really conflicted guy. He sees a young guy's doing things. He knows that they shouldn't be doing because it gets us into trouble. And then there's the old guys that, you know, tend to stick to the old ways that don't change things. You know, it's those things that never seem to change. You only get worse. And he's holding up two dams that I always say that eventually could collapse and he'll probably be the one who drowns. But I think he, you know, he loves his mom. I mean, that's one thing we

know on the show. He's very protective of his mom. And, you know, he means well, but he just doesn't show his emotions too much to his club brothers. Very few, no, very few times. That sounds like a full job outside of the acting in itself, the whole character part. I'll tell you what, it, that's like sobriety acting has definitely been something that's kind of kept me on the, on the, on the, on the straight path, you know, want the truth. You put myself on front. street saying that, but it's the truth. Would any of this stuff be possible without sobriety? No, absolutely not.

I would have blown my first paycheck and my opportunities probably by just self-sabotage. And I'm not saying like running down the street with no clothes on or riding down on the motorcycle, you know, jumping into a billboard, I just mean the things that I struggled with in sobriety when I got the show. You know, am I good enough? You know, I'm out there in the public eye. If people knew that, you know, I'm recovering alcoholic, they probably wouldn't like me,

all those things that a lot of people go through, you know, and on top of sobriety, that was hard enough, but I had the clarity enough to kind of gauge it in the support. I think being drunk or drinking or using, I just would have had a very clouded, destructive, you know, I don't even think they would have got me to the door. to be honest. You know, I would have held up good for a while because we all do.

And then I might have just caved. Yeah. Wow. I'm putting myself on Front Street for you. Yeah, it is hard to keep things together. But you're right, though. We can do really well to keep things together for a bit, put on a good show. But the longer people are around, it all gets exposed eventually, right?

Well, yeah. I mean, when I got sober, I went back to a job that I left before I left the country. and I said, I wanted to get hired back, and I told him that, you know, I'd been in AA in recovery, and I'd been sober for a few months. And they were shocked because I hid it from them. I hit my drinking from people when I did my last stages of drinking. Nobody knew I drank. In fact, in San Francisco, it's such a condensed neighborhood.

I would go to another neighborhood to buy my alcohol because I didn't want to be seen buying it in my neighborhood. I was so ashamed. So when I told them that, you know, I had a drink of, they, at first just they, they were kind of dumbfounded. They didn't believe me, but it is true, you know, I was a hard thing to do when I look back on it. Wow. Wow. And they took you back for the job? They did.

And I, and it was funny because the one superior that I bumped heads with the most and we didn't think much of each other. And I don't blame him for not picking much of me at the time. He was the one that went to my defense and had me rehired. Wow. So it's funny how that all plays out, right? It is. Yeah. You know, in sobriety, opportunities just come from so many different places.

What has been the response, like from people around you and stuff with sharing your journey of sobriety and stuff? Because you mentioned that that was something that you got in your head about when you started out on this journey. What's been the response from fans, from everybody else that's part of it? you know, I win my heart on my sleeve sometimes when it comes to my sobriety. I feel like when we hide our, you know, from our pain and we mask ourselves to be a certain way, you know, before we stepped in, step into the rooms. You know, I got sick and tired of doing that, you know, once I got sober. So when I, I talk to, you know, if somebody asked me about it, you know, like if I, if I, meet somebody at a signing or at a motorcycle runner, you know, I'll be the first one to say,

look, you know, I'm not here and you're down here just because I'm doing this. I have a job just like you. You know, it's at the end of the day, it's a job. You know, it's a job that I love. It's a job I never thought I would end up doing. And believe me, I punched myself in the face for that, but I screwed up, you know, I bottomed out. I did everything that they say you're not supposed to do in life and I fell my way back. And I tell people, I hope that you can just look at the basics of that. And when you feel that you just can't come back from wherever you are and you're done and you're spent and you think this is it, you played your last card, that that's just a lie. You know, you can pick yourself up and you can do whatever it is that you want to do when they

talk about our primary purpose, you know, going against what I'm doing now would have been that I was going against my primary purpose the whole time. And then, you know, and I get kind of choked up when I think about that now because, you know, I shouldn't even be here. And I know that. So that,

I think, I look at that every day. And I just tell people, hey, you know, there's nothing I'm doing that you couldn't do. And, and I was the biggest group in the world.

I don't want somebody to see me as some shiny, happy, you know, whatever. You know, sometimes they, put actors or musicians or public figures on pedestals that it's like look we you know we bleed red blood you know

we're all you know none of us are immune from death you know we all have our humanity and we also have our strengths we also have our weaknesses so I don't ever want to feel like I'm somebody feels like I'm in a different place in there my whole thing is I want to connect because I've been so disconnected and so alienated whether I did it to myself or I was alienated. You know, I don't want that.

You know, you go too far in your journey and to put yourself above anybody, then you got it all wrong, you know? The only thing about this and sobriety, I tell people that's the hardest thing for me is clarity. You know, be careful for what you wish for. When you get that clarity, you think that you get the answers you want. Sometimes you'll see things you don't want to see about yourself and about your life. But then it's your choice to, you know, turn it around. if that's what you want to do.

So they're hard truths, you know. Yeah. You can't save people from themselves, but you can definitely say, hey, man, I was that example of what not to do, you know, spare yourself if you can't. But, you know, if you're not, I'll be there to save a seat for you if you want that. Yeah, no, that, that's beautiful. I love that. What advice would you give people?

I mean, you just dropped a ton a ton there, but do you have any? sort of specific things that people, if they were listening to this podcast, that they were struggling to get or stay sober? I can only say this. You know, I grew up in a really small town where when I go back and visit, it breaks my heart because it's just filled with hopelessness. It embodies it. No change, no progress, just a lot of broken souls, broken people. And I remember being a young kid being broken in that environment and it can carry on into your adult years if you let it I just tell people like if you see yourself in any kind of position like that you know and your mind is telling you that this is as good as it's going to get you can't do better you can't have

better it's a lie you know it's like just know that that voice is just messing with you know it's not the truth unless you believe it and don't believe it and you can live your best life, you just have to keep, you have to just keep pushing forward. And somebody, somebody told me that, you know, it, uh, I remember Katie Segal said that once, right? People know where it's Peg Bundy or Gemma, uh, tell her on sons. I, I remember, you know, I read somewhere or somewhere or she said that, you know, uh, I think I did 10 years under my belt. And, uh, and, uh, and, um, and, She was right, you know, about where you end up.

And I actually, you know, last time we spoke, I actually told her, I'm like, you might remember this, you talked me off a ledge, you know. I was in such a bad place and your message really, you know, and she was just talking. I mean, it was nothing, you know, and it's just those things that we hear from other people, you know, that you can tell they've lived a life and don't give up, you know. Yeah. Don't feel up.

Yeah. Yeah, that's powerful too. Yeah, and keep going and get involved with other good people. I think from your story, too, a little bit of what you shared there, these groups really helped you because you got to connect with other people that you could connect with that shared a similar type journey that helped you. Huge. Huge.

I mean, some of the guys from my home group 20 years in were, you know, still very connected. You know, it's a trip. You know, and we were the ones that people would kind of shudder when they'd see us at meeting sometimes, you know, but they felt true to their sobriety. It's all I got. It's all I got. Without your sobriety, does everything fall apart? I believe it does. I believe, you know, you don't even have to pick up a drink, but I think you can fall into the old ways of thinking, which I think our thoughts can be really damaging if we don't scare them in the right, you know, direction or mindset.

So I believe that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same here. Yeah, for me, I mean, I heard it one thing once. Everything you put above your sobriety above your recovery will be the first thing you lose. Anything you put above it.

I mean, I believe that for me because it was just, and even, I'd like the point you made there too about, it doesn't even have to be about the drink or the drug, but it's that way of thinking because the drink, alcohol, the drugs were never my problem. I was the problem, the way I thought, the way I processed everything. Because even after I quit the drugs. And I still had a lot of work to do. Things were not good, you know, to begin. But that is a good thing to get out of your system,

gives you the ability to take the next step. It is. And, you know, it's weird. You know, this is something in the past couple years, you know, I experienced. I thought I was going to end up taking a drink a couple years ago. You know, I can admit it and say it. My father died.

We had a very tough relationship. We did not speak. You know, when I did speak to him, he died three minutes later. He was dying. And I couldn't see him because of the whole COVID restrictions. And we were filming and, you know, I was so angry at him in some ways that I internalized all that and thought, you know, I was justified in it because that was the young kid in me and the angry, you know, grown man and whatever, whatever BS you want to call it. And I'll tell you what, the loss that I went through with history. passing and the stubbornness that, you know, it was on my part, you know, it almost took me out, you know, and but, you know, I hung in there. I got, you know, I had my support group and, and I was able to get on the other side and I see that whole scenario so differently now. You know, I see my father is, you know, a beautifully flawed human being who had his, you know, she was like, we have ours. And, you know, there was so many good things about him,

but I was too angry to want to see it. Even in sobriety, you know, because he was my father. So it was a different situation. And so many things in me changed after that, you know. And I told my mom, I go, you know, his passing, you know, it was a hard thing, but it was also a gift because I had to look at him for who he was and realize that, you know, I really loved. the guy and a lot of my pain and sometimes my drinking and my acting out or whatever you know i

attribute a lot to my relationship with my father you know so it was very healing but it wasn't an easy process i'll tell you that much you know yeah and i think that's what our our higher power or or whatever wants for us to to see the light that you know we you know we need to embrace that love or that forgiveness for that you know because i'm i'm not always the most forgiving person I'm not always the most emotionally, like, responsive person at times sometimes because I've got my issues like everybody else. Far from perfect. And I'll probably admit that. But I try really, really hard, you know, try really hard.

And then forgiveness part two is such a important part in recovery for giving ourselves, forgiving relationships and how things go. I just love that part of sobriety, though, that we're able to do that. Like we're able to work on that stuff. You jumped right in there to your home group, your support group. I mean, exactly by the script of how to do things. So now I appreciate you. I appreciate you being honest about that stuff too, about the challenges. Even with like, you know, I think some people like you were talking about with acting,

people put you on a pedestal. I think some people do this with recovery, 20 years, 30 years, pedestal. I think it's incredible that you're sharing this. stuff that life still happens. Yeah. Well, you know, those two things could be gone tomorrow. You could pick up a drink and that's up the window for the time being. Your career could be gone tomorrow.

Well, how do you want to be remembered or how do you want to be seen, you know? And I think that's what it is. I want to, you know, I try to be a really decent human being. You know, I don't do it because I'm out trying to be noticed doing, gifts or acts of service. I really need to pay it forward. My life, a good chunk of my life is paying things forward because I had a lot of help in recovery.

You know, I was going to be evicted for my place. You know, I should have been out on the street. And the landlady said, you know, what are we going to do about this? Really tough Russian lady. And I said, well, I've been going to meetings. And she asked me, are you lying to me? because I'll know if you're lying. Like, no, I'm really going.

I'm in a bad spot. And she said, you better bring me a chip every 30 days. And it better be real. And I did. And I didn't have money to eat. It was a nice man. We called him a gentle jack who lived around the corner who had a liquor store in Upper Hate in San Francisco would give me grocery receipt.

And then when I was working, I was able to pay him back. And I think about things like that. So I will always try to pay it forward somehow. Like, you know, I think I do a lot of charities, but I do them with that in mind. I don't do it for any other reason. I do it because I know I had help. And as long as I can walk and I can breathe and get out of bed, well, I got some people to help, you know. Yeah.

Paid forward. Yeah, service part. Yeah, I love it. And you feel good. You can feel good about it, too. I mean, a big part of my story was I took a lot of stuff from this world, took from people and just so selfish. So I really enjoyed that giving back part. Christmas is coming up.

We're going to grab a few, you know, things from the mall to get for people and stuff. And I never had an opportunity to do that stuff either. And I'm blessed today to be able to do that and show my kids that we can do that sort of stuff. And, I mean, without the sobriety, though, I wouldn't do it. Right. the only way I ever did stuff for people is I would do a little bit because I knew that they would deliver more. So it was very bad. But, you know, when I look at all these scenarios, you know, these things that we did that we're not proud of, you know.

And when we talked about forgiveness, you know, guy broke it down for me in a way that it sunk in. You know, he said, hey, you know, people that that you did wrong. People who did you wrong, it's the same playing field. If both of you were in a good place at the time you did what you did, you never would have thought to do what you did. And when he said it like that, I was like, wow, yeah, if I wasn't a better place, I wouldn't have, you know. And that just, you know, because I, you know, it was sort of like,

I'm not going to forgive, but I expect to be forgiven. You know, that whole thing we go through at times. And that's when he kind of laid it out for me. And I try to apply that to things sometimes. if this person was in a better place. And, you know, maybe they, and that's not always easy, you know. It makes perfect sense. It allows us to move on from it.

But look, but this has been incredible. You've really opened the door for us, and I can't tell you how much I appreciate this. You've taken time while you're busy with everything here. Never too busy for you. Before we jump, how many motorcycles do you have? Like, do you own? I have two.

and I have a third one that we're working on to hopefully I'll have it about a month or two. They'll have different purposes. Yeah. So these are these choppers or are these just your stock? They're Harleys, you know, I've got, I've got a road king that's a little, you know, I think it's a little flashy. And then I have a street glide that's a little flashy, but I use that more for my daily, you know, for splitting lanes and cutting through on the freeway.

Because I don't have a car. So, you know, I ride. every day. So when the rain hits, things get, you know, weird. I got to make sure the bikes are running perfect. So this, I can't have a glitching out right before we start filming because, you know, I'm about a 40 mile right out every day. Okay. And do they, and you don't use your own bike for the show then? They have bikes for you? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I have a nice bike on that show and God, I hope nothing, I hope it doesn't disappear after filming because it's a nice bike. Keep an eye on the freeway.

Yeah. Cool. All righty, buddy. Thank you for having me. Thank you. I really appreciate you. Thank you for letting me do this. Of course. Thank you so much.

Well, everyone, there's Frankie Loyal, Mayans on FX. What an incredible human. Very gentle, very honest with this story. Struggled early on, has able to put 20 years of sobriety together. Got a great opportunity to be on this show. and he's really painted forward. This was a really great episode. I had a lot of fun throughout the entire process of Frankie's story.

It was good. And he shared some tough stuff with it. So I have to say the huge props to Frankie. And I hope this is going to be really helpful for a lot of people. I think it will. I hope you're loving season two. We've had some incredible people already. There's lots more to come.

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two dropping next week. Until then, I'm out.