SoccerWise - Canada Post-Game Show

Episode Date: June 26, 2024

Canada has won their first game EVER in Copa America. David jumps on with his two close friends (north of the border) Devang Desai & Sean Keay to break it down. They run back through what happened in the heat, what this moments mean, and who they want to see in the team going forward. Soccerwise Live 2pm ET Every Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday on Youtube/Twitch/Twitter

what's up everybody welcome to our live canada copa america post game show i am trying to be ecstatic about this i am ecstatic about my cast and crew for this one. Canada making history, their first ever Copa America win. And if you could professionally find a way to make people sad about a thing they're happy about, Canada did that today. And I cannot wait to talk about it with no one else in the world except you two. Sean K., Devang Desai. Devang at Sportsnet up in Canada. Used to be my co-host on a football podcast for a number of years. You are my resident

Canadians and thank you for taking the time to be with me. Great to be here after a win. Oh my god, I almost fainted several times. Sean, you've got what year are we wearing? That's uh, this is a remake of the 86. So the OG. The last time things were relevant for Canada. And they got a win. So Canada moved to second place in the group on three points. Sean, this is the first Copa America victory in the history of Canadian soccer. You are wearing the 86 kit. It's been a while to feel good.

You've been through a lot of the downs as well. What's the feeling right now? What's sort of your thoughts about what just happened? Trying to take the positive out of this one. I think there's, we can get into the negative. I think there were a lot of things that can be really learned from this game and taking those opportunities to grow. But you have to understand what just happened was a big moment.

This team that doesn't have experience, that needs to get ready for the 2026 World Cup and have all these young guys come in and put on a winning performance. You can look at the other tournaments that are going on in Euro and you're seeing these guys who grind out games, find ways to win. We're watching Italy in the 95th minute, finding the way to win. And traditionally in Canadian history, they're on the other side. They're up 1-0, 86 capitulate, 90-minute capitulate. So this is something that should be looked at as a positive

with a lot to learn and a lot to grow. And I think, once again, with 2026 looking ahead and just in this moment, it's something that we should enjoy and embrace. We have three points. We have a goal scored. Jonathan David has broken his duck. Baby steps.

This is not anything other than baby steps so take it as it is enjoy it now let's get angry the bang I think that's well said I I think I was ready with my obituary for this team at this tournament ready to go at halftime and I was very alarmed I think at what we were going to do after halftime and with the changes Jesse March made I think I was really comforted even without the goal which is saying I know that's bold to say and it's easy to say now that they've won and it's 1-0 Canada or Peru but just the fact that he was willing to do that I think was big big for me watching as an observer and also trying to maybe compare a little bit to

what we had previously in the past regime so it wasn't pretty i think in the last 10 minutes caused several heart attacks and i wanted to vomit but there's enough here to take something away from it um real feel of 103 degrees at this game that kicked off at 5 p.m. local time, 50% of the field in the sun. The assistant referee will be able to attest to that. The assistant referee collapsed going into halftime, so we hope he's doing well. And I don't want to assume anything or say anything that's inaccurate, but it feels like it's not a coincidence that that assistant referee was running up and down that line in the pure sun for what is a heat advisory right now in Kansas City to, like, not be outside until 8 p.m. and this game was played in that heat.

So I think that has to be in the context of let's start with the first half and then, Dev Devang as you said halftime changes game shifts you get the goal in the second half you get the red card as well in the first half no pressure no ball pressure in central midfield I thought was the worst part they tried to press along the sidelines a little bit it wasn't really there that's slightly understandable and then a complete mess along the back line as you see Derek Cornelius being one of the ones taken off. Sean, it just, everything that was right about the Argentina game didn't exist in the first half. Yeah, it really felt like the cohesion that I've seen in the last few games under Jesse Marsh in the midfield between Estacchio and Kone,

that just seemed disjointed. And I don't know where the disconnect was, whether it was the pressure that Peru was putting on, the heat, or Kone just having an off game. He's a 22-year-old kid who has been known for taking, not taking games off, but having a poor performance here and there. And that's sort of why that's has been his knock on his game so i don't know if it's like if it's the fact that the peru sort of dominated in numbers and they needed to bring that extra man in and marsh adjusted um but it just felt like

the spine from top to bottom was being affected because even we were screaming via text that like david was like checking back every single time to try to break something, to break something out. And it's just like, but that created imbalance elsewhere. And it just, it didn't feel right. The wit that was available through Alistair on the one side, Miller really didn't find any joy there as well. Yeah. It just felt disjointed.

And once again, it could be given up to Peru showing up and knowing how they were to play and playing properly. And it could just be the tighter pitch. I had mentioned this to you, and once again, I'm still trying to figure out what happened, but it felt like the pitch was a bit tighter. And once again, could have been Peru's press. It could have been that KC dropped the lines in,

but it just didn't feel like anything was going you were doing full conca calf research like finding the the erase lines in the box that looked like the top of the 18 which they did i'm looking at the stadium it's a soccer specific stadium i just i get what you're saying it did feel like maybe one of the one of the end lines got shifted forward, but the other one maybe was extended. But we can go count it. I'll go walk it for you here in the U.S. Devane, you texted and said Marseille withdrew their bid for Ismael Kone in that first half. Like it just feels like at a minimum, okay, the game's against you.

Like go run around, right? Run into someone every once in a while. And there were moments where they cut to Kone, and he just was kind of in a daze throughout that first half and that is a huge drop off from what we saw a few nights ago big time and I I think you mentioned the heat DG and I wonder if he was one of those guys affected by it because he did look like he was in a daze at times and I was getting texts from multiple people not not necessarily big soccer fans, asking, is this the guy that's going to make a big move next in Europe again? Because he didn't look right. Yeah, and I kind of, it felt like they were intentionally trying to target Miller and Kony in the beginning

and going down that side and establishing a rhythm and seeing whether it worked or not. And it just looks so disjointed. I don't know about you guys, and I wonder if I'm in the minority here, but I didn't think he was overall that great in the argentina game either i think he got better as it went along but i thought he started kind of similar to this game as well and i think going forward this pivot like obviously it's a very important part of this team but like i know he wears the 10 jersey but god we could use a 10 in this setup like an actual one because i think the midfield the midfield release point and the valve and everything working better happened when kyler basically operated as kind of a 10 sort of so i just i feel like we're missing we're missing a

key cog and we're working around it and if if one of those two guys i didn't think estaccio was that much better in the first half also coming on was big i and again i'll credit marsh but if one of those guys is off i feel like there's not enough to carry them through and it felt like the field was was tilted really heavily against them yeah jonathan osario has been in this place now for four years where like put out a fire he's not one yeah put out a fire paper he's not one of the 11 best players in the canadian pool especially in those positions and he consistently performs better than the other guys especially for jesse marsh right where and i go back to this all the time but like it is the easiest way to explain him is like the halftime speech against Liverpool with Salzburg of like, make them feel you, right?

This is, this game is our life. Like just like make the other team hate playing against you. That's Jonathan Osorio. Like that's a definition of who he is. Plus the little bit of quality that he has, like he's clean on the ball. He's fun in possession. He's going to be able to beat guys one of you want, or get out of tight spaces at a minimum and try and play a ball.

But it's really hard to say who comes off the field. And I think that's where you feel so far, only four games, Jesse Marsh being stuck of saying – and I guess I'm wrong here because he took Tejan out of the starting lineup. And Tejan's on the books in Serie A and, like, probably is a big-time player. But it feels tough sean to think that he's really not going to start jonathan david and larin and ustakio and kona and like all these guys yeah i think it's going to be a tough a tough starting lineup

to crack other than that one position right now where mill Miller is probably on the outs and Schaffelberg has won that role um over top of whoever um I do think that Richie should uh like I liked this lineup once again uh to start I think the the shift in the second half was probably the right move but I still think you go a Stachio Kone every single game this tournament not only just for to win games and i know it's ridiculous to say this in a competition that is as high as copa america but like that is your future that is your now you you don't you don't risk it to try like for a maybe a hope and a prayer like the value that you're going to get with jonathan osorio is going to be clean on the ball and that but like coney could be a game changer and you've got to start with that and then work your way back so i i think the only spot that i can see once again is shaffelberg winning that winning getting

into the 11 because he's doing everything that you want from from a winger he's everything that you want from a alfonso davies playing left wing. I am curious though because I think it was a big deal that they changed the leadership council and some of the guys that were big the last round weren't necessarily included and Oso was one of those guys. I think it's kind of a big deal that in this midst of basically the first big fire, the first if you don't get a result here it's a bit of a disaster he turned to him and he performed quite well and i think that says something about someone like jonathan osorio just character wise which we know like we've known him well we don't know for a long

time like it's not a surprise but i think he's fine coming off the bench and that's okay like the ceiling with ostakio and kone performing well who who knows where that is, right? And I think we have to keep trying to see if we can get it, whether or not that includes some horrific midfield play in between. You guys know this better than me, though. Craig Vanney tried to not start him for four straight years and ended up starting him in big games because he wins it. Like, this is who he is. He wins his spot.

He performs well. And you can have a conversation for 363 days of the year of like what's your team and what what's your ethos and what's your future and what do you want and it's like you get down to the field and it's like i want the guy that i know is going to step up today and i know he's going to perform now i'm not sure if i'm working it out that it's even for con and Stachio, I think I'd actually push you Stachio a little higher and play him like Sasha question played under the Red Bulls as a 10. And then maybe someone else comes off the field.

So it was stage on last game. It might be Liam Miller in this game and you leave Fonzie higher or you move Jonathan David out wide, whatever that is. I think all of those are options before we get get even further into this it was a red card on lopez right like it's a headbutt it's a red card it's not like the worst thing that's ever happened but the first half the var the whole thing it's a red card right yes yeah okay yeah i'm just making sure i'm not like out of the only the only thing I'll say is, like, sorry, Sean, but the only thing I'll say is, like, Alistair Johnston just being him, I'm sure there was something happening that, like,

the people on the field maybe were like, you know what? Maybe. But every other time we've seen that, yes, I think it's a red. I think they were managing the game, which I see this in NHL hockey all the time and it sickens me, but I think they're like, we can't do this now. We cannot take a player from Peru off the field right now because of the stakes which to some degree I like but in this case what the heck okay yeah it was absolutely a red card but I

once again am sitting here with a Canadian like like yeah i i've never seen it not called but at the same time like it i think we we the game flow went the way it should there was a red card later in the pit in the game that sort of created that that moment once again a second yellow but but nonetheless i think it worked out in the end okay so out of halftime devang you talked about the subs kamal miller comes on for derrick cornelius jonathan osorio comes for on for ismael cone and jacob shaffelberg comes on um for liam miller so it's a change basically in three different phases of the field kamal miller playing like for like as a center back. Oso alongside Eustachio. And then Jacob Schaffelberg goes out left and

Fonzie dropped deeper, right? Am I getting this right? And then Richie moved over. No, that was later on. No, Richie moved over at half and then Tejon came on for Richie later on. Right. All of them pretty much worked.

Let's go one by one though. let's start with shaffelberg because you you were texting about the maritime messy uh um we live in a shaffelberg world it's kind of real i know i know we we joke about i just want to say this off the top i know we joke maritime messy ha ha ha like and i believe we called ryan gold a version of messy on our old show a scottish messy but can we not agree that he changes the game in a way that no one else on our our team can do at this moment there is no one else like him on this team and i mean in some ways that's bad and i know we have to deepen the player pool, but in other ways, it's like, do you want to start him? Is this the best way to use him?

Part of me thinks that this sub role is almost best for someone like Shaft. I know it's not looking great when he's not on, but I don't know what you guys think about that. I've had that inner monologue myself, in sense that he has come, come on as a super sub and really changed the speed of the game at a time where once again, uh, everyone's slowing down. And so it really creates this, uh,

great opportunity, but at the same time, we're not creating, the Canadian team is not creating chances unless he's on the field and he's stretching that field the way that the field should be stretched we have like the frustrating part of all of this is that you have guys that should be game changers in alfonso davies and tajon buchanan who are burners who are who can stretch the field but now once again i'm not sure why whether it's be coaching or or tactics or what have you they're

deciding to cut inside they're trying to take every man on rather than just using the pace to get around them where schaffelberg's just like well i'm gonna win every time and i'm gonna put a ball across and yes our four out of the seven balls that come across like hands up in the air what's going on but that there are seven yeah but there are seven opportunities that if he's not on the pitch i don't know if there's going to be that opportunity a hundred percent so it's his speed is his greatest asset it is i don't want to call it world class because i don't know but like it is as good as anyone in this region and it's as good as anyone maybe in the hemisphere like you he's going up against peru

he's going up against argentina right you're talking about not just conca calf you're talking about conmable you're talking about the world cup champions he is still an elite speed player i have zero notes for the first half so i take notes like either big things i see or big or big moments i have zero notes in terms of moments for Canada. In the second half, I have about seven. Five of them are Schaffelberg. Four of them are what is he doing, but he's in the spot. It's Schaffelberg gets it on a big switch. He played that early ball into Lahren's feet right on the end line. I would have pulled it back. I wouldn't have done that then Schaffelberg breaks into the box and he tries to play Fonzie on a pullback but he stares at him for so long that the defender intercepts it then in the 85th minute he tries he breaks into the box he doesn't really have an option

and so he just whips a ball across to no one which Tejon picks up on the other side and ends on a Jonathan David whiff on a pullback which is not Jacob Schaffelberg's fault and is an absurd moment anyway. I think you are right. In right now, the dice roll that one of Jacob Schaffelberg's things will hit versus nothing happening. The bet is probably safer that you're going to get that one Schaffelberg moment and you need him on the field long enough for him to do that. And I wouldn't be shocked if he starts because he is the only player who is playing on the front foot and that's all Jesse wants.

And he is the only one who seems to understand it probably because it's the only way he ever plays and he only has one speed and he does one thing and he's like, oh, cool. This is what we're doing now? Yeah. I've been here all day. It's nice for all of you to show up. He is an experience on his own, and you're right, Devang.

We joke about it. We shouldn't. In fairness, coming out of TFC, I didn't know that it would work. And in Nashville, it has clearly been established that he's for real. Like, what he does, he can do anywhere, and it is good enough to affect a soccer game at many levels think of what the marketing we missed out on a tfc holy cow that bullet in in kansas city right in patrick mahomes's home he dons the mahomes cut and shows out serendipity. Patrick Mahomes owns like four different stadiums in that city.

I jokingly ask, what are the chances that he's in 105 degree heat taking in Peru, Canada, just because he loves soccer? 3%? He went to SKC and KC Current on the same weekend a few weeks ago. And it's like Aaron Rodgers does this in New York. It's like there are other things to do. you're too famous to only be at sporting events like two something more interesting just saw a ball and we uh we showed up you know that's what we do yeah exactly um i want to give a shout out to kamal miller i thought it was a big day for him he in my mind he was the best center back in the world cup qualifying cycle. He was a linchpin to what they did.

He struggled at the World Cup. He has been in and out of teams since then because he went to Miami and then went to Portland. And those teams have had bad back lines and his life's been hard and all that stuff. He came off the bench and he was no nonsense at a time when everyone along the back line was like very casual about their defending and we talked about this a lot in the world cup qualifying cycle on the shows we were doing wherever you play alfonso davies you need players around him that can cover for him and react to him and kamal miller's comfortable in possession he can defend in space he's played left back a ton so he's fine going out wide and closing guys down i would be surprised if kamal miller's not starting alongside bombito in the

next game do you guys agree i do yeah i i would say so i and i'm not gonna say he came in and was like passing brilliantly like and he was connected like but he was better than what they had on and i and i do think that i don't think bombito has necessarily been the best center back we've had so far at this tournament but he has to be the one that plays the most for those reasons that sean was alluding to with estaccio and cone about playing and getting reps and and continuing to grow i think we know a little bit more about the other guys and a little bit less about bumpito so who can be the better partner for me in terms of like attributes i think it might be kamal and i i liked what derrick cornelius has done since the threat like since basically this window has started and even obviously the club season and generating interest from

multiple teams across europe but just from profile sense and like calming things down against really aggressive teams like you're gonna find in in this competition like i think chile is gonna be aggressive as heck like i would i would start kamal as well i have concerns with going with kamal um if it was a three center back line and this isn't like he is a left center back in my mind he is that is what he is and the second that they shifted to the style that they're playing now he just doesn't really have a role in in the team i think his uh like clearly he played okay today but i just feel like the he's too small of a a player and doesn't have enough of a size or speed to really own that center of the park

and that's why I think Cornelius has done a really good job alongside Bombito today was a struggle and I'm happy to keep trying it but that's why I'm not sure that Kamal really fits the style that we're trying to play I just

don't think that he fits the style that we're trying to play i just don't think that he he has the the style that plays well with bombito because i think bombito is cb1 on our team and then it's sort of sort of trying to fill out how that goes because he's such a presence in the middle of the park he wins so many headers he he's just what we've been he's basically stepped in for um oh gosh vittoria is vittoria yeah thank you uh just stepped into that role but once again bringing size speed like a youthfulness like it's been really good to see him play and once again i think it's just building off that um i only remember that because vittoria is still running across my screen that's how slow he is from about three years ago,

the last time he played for Canada. I don't disagree with you. I will say, though, because Bombito can do things Vittoria couldn't, I think it opens the door to have Kamal Miller in the team because he doesn't have to dominate in some of those facets if the way it's set up or the way it could be set up. But you are right in that when Kamal Miller broke into Montreal and broke into this team, he was playing in a five center or three center back, five in the back on that left side,

which is his best role and probably isn't how this team's going to play. They could, right? You could make Alphonso Davies your left wing back. You could make Jacob Schaffelberg your right wing back. You could play Alistair Johnston as a right center back like he did at at the World Cup it would set up the midfield the way I'm talking about maybe with a little higher in front of two other guys I think a lot of that could work for you Jesse's a month in it's been four games there's been really good performances I don't know that he's gonna throw that bigger wrinkle in there at this point without having time to work on it.

Announced earlier today, Canada will play the U.S. in the fall in a friendly, I believe, here in the U.S. U.S. Open, you know. This is for you, Devang, as well. Thank you so much. Maxime Crepeau, should we do a little celebration here? We have in the chat on YouTube from Callan cal and keho says crepeau is the goat we can now officially retire the haunted sweatpants of me on they will be placed in

the attic the ceremonial attic we'll put them in a box market as treasured item but we don't have to open it again folks we've moved on uh yeah he was immense i will be honest i wrote first canadian win in copa america history in the rundown about 17 seconds before he made the save the shot and i was like sean's gonna kill me sean is absolutely there was also a punch near the end that i thought he could have grabbed but i also thought to myself how dare i ask for the moon when he's delivered the stars um okay so we've talked it through i think changes for next game feels like we all sort of agree on shaffelberg and otherwise probably nothing else. Is that correct? I think so. I don't know what you guys think about that rotation with Tejan.

I think he's going to be not a tough pupil for Jesse Marsh, but someone that I think Jesse's going to try and get more out of, which could be dangerous. I don't know if that's going to try and get more out of, quote-unquote, which could be dangerous. Like, I don't know if that's going to go necessarily well, but it feels like Tejan's going to be a project, and I wonder if that means he gets right back in against Chile. So, to the point you've started us with, Sean, with Kone, and now going all the way through,

the ceiling for the Canadian national team is Tejan Buchanan playing well, right? Yes, absolutely. So why is he not in this team? I think I have seen enough of a sample size from Tayshaun over the last while. I'm saying going back to world cup campaign all about that that i feel like he has not provided the value that you you expect from him so this doesn't go this isn't like a two game tough spell in and out this and once again i would need to go back to to the tapes to to confirm this but i just feel like i haven't seen a tajon buchanan wow

game in such a long time and i just i continually sit here scratching my head where was this advancing blazing winger that that got all these opportunities in mls in early days in europe where did that go and and that's that's why I wouldn't give him the leash that I would give to others. Honestly, the last game that comes to mind is 2021 Gold Cup, the semifinal against Mexico where Canada kind of gets robbed and he scores the goal, which was without Jonathan David and I think Alphonso Davies in that team. And that was the last time he was a real difference maker.

So I agree with you there. I think Alphonso Davies in that team. And that was the last time he was a real difference maker. So I agree with you there. I think that's fair. It's a bigger picture. It's a longer thing than what Kone has struggled for one game or in one moment in stuff like that. So I think that's fair. Next game is in Orlando outside at 8 p.m. So the weather should be better, I guess, because at least the sun will have gone down.

Get those lines people some hats for the love of God. Yeah. Jeez. It won't help Jesse. Like they're not going to come. They're not going to come out firing out of a cannon and be running for 90 minutes. So this is also the reality of the world. Like national teams play in summers it's only getting hotter it's only getting worse like the 2026 world cup will

be here in a summer this is something that jesse's gonna have to figure out is like what is his team when they're not pressing i understand it's early but like it can't only be focused or it can't all be based around that one thing uh let's finish up with my biggest rant. Of course, Jonathan David dropping deep is a horrendous passer. Playing as the lead man is an elite finisher in the world. One that Real Madrid and your beloved Tottenham won all these other teams. And Kyle Lahren's a pretty good creator as well. And the one time Kyle Lahren's jonathan david it leads to the breakthrough

goal and everything jonathan david does on that goal is world class the way he takes the the his first touch off shaffelberg's pass in between two defenders gets it out in front of him and then finishes inside the far post at full speed with a goalkeeper closing on him. Like that's what we're talking about. Why are we spending 87 minutes watching him drop in and try and clip balls between the lines? It's driving me insane. All right. I feel better now.

Preach. It's, it's an interest. It's an interesting, I understand. I understand the frustration because I a hundred percent agree. You have your best asset, put him at the place where he's going to provide the best opportunity

but if he's not going to get into games he's got to force himself by coming into the game and that's I think what he's been trying to do especially because he's not scoring, he's trying to force the issue of being like, I need touches I need the ball at my feet, I'm a star I need to do that

and it's that chicken and egg scenario uh i'm going through it pretty hard in uh with harry kane right now like it's the same thing it's like you're just not getting the touches at the top of the so you've got to come in differences is that one guy can pass the ball and the other one's not really that good at it so but that's that's where i think it's frustrating for david when we're playing these elite teams where he's not going to get opportunities to touch the ball and when you are the big dog it's tough to be humble and be like okay i'm gonna get three touches i gotta pull one in the back of the net and it just might be tough when you're getting slaughtered in the midfield so yeah yeah this this game is just cemented again to me that like kyle air is not placed high

enough when we do our rankings of importance to this team and like whether or not they do well his play is never put high enough and it has to be up there for canada to do well and he's done it before but i i don't know how fit he is like i i didn't see him like i mean again it's incredibly hot he's played a long season there's a lot of things going on but like can he drop deep can he make those movements that jd's making like i wonder if there's some conservation going on between them but i yeah you're right dg and like i i really i really want to see like great kyle aaron before this tournament is out because it will remind people how important he is.

Yeah, he was the golden boot winner in CONCACAF World Cup qualifying. I think he was the second highest goal scorer in the entire world through World Cup qualifying. Yeah, he's special, and he's a big deal for this team. And then when we talk Canada, we go, Fonzie, Eustachio, Kone. And, like, he doesn't really get mentioned, even behind Dejan, who has struggled to perform for this team. So I think that's fair.

Let me close you guys out on this one. They win today, first win in Copa America history, first win over a South American team in 24 years since the 2000 Gold Cup against Colombia, who came as an invite team and of course they won that if they don't get the results in the third game and they don't go through in the group what is this tournament mean I guess basically put me in your mindsets of like what is necessary for Copa America and now even after a win and a loss is your mindset the same john you go first because devang just left yeah um i i think i think it would be

once again without knowing what the what's gonna happen next um i think i i think it'd be a success like i think once again grinding out this win was was important um i don't think once again i don't think that this tournament is coming in to win it it's to go deep it's trying to get experience it's trying to get meaningful minutes for 2026 because i think that sort of sets up everyone into getting that like out i think it's a failure in 2026 if we don't get out of the group stage if we don't maybe advance further than that that's where the my main goal is it's like what it would be great to get out of this group and play a winner take all game and against a squad that potentially like on the other side that group isn't isn't that strong like this could open up doors um but i think ultimately it's it

we're in a good spot a draw is all that's needed i'd love to grind out a draw um we'll see once again what chile brings tonight i think that there's still a lot to be played before i can really feel confident going into it but third game a lot of heat an older chile squad i think it's the best time to take them try to grind try to score early and grind out that and hold on hold on like tonight but maybe we'll have a little bit more experience maybe we'll have a little bit more opportunity put Maybe we'll have a little bit more opportunity. Put some Sam Piet into the midfield and hold on for dear life. It felt like it might end up that at the end of this game as well.

Milan would have come in at center mid and added that to this. Devang, you're with us for us to say goodbye. Feel good? I'm back. Sorry, I hit my mic by accident. I do think I missed some of what sean said but i got the end i will say this game is at 8 p.m on saturday with nothing else really going on the blue jays are not doing well this will have a huge audience in canada it's a big moment i think

it's equally as big as what happened at the world cup so yeah the stakes are high i'm not necessarily hoping for a three no win but i think advancing would be massive yeah i talk a lot about like this team having to prove themselves to everyone and win everyone back and they did it in 2022 and then the csa lost everyone again with the way they've treated both teams and all this other stuff um so it's been tough but there's a huge opportunity they got the win, they got over the line They are normally on the other side of this So this is a really big day

For the Canadian national team And I didn't want to talk about it with anyone else besides you two Although after I asked you and watched the first half Then I got worried That it was going to be a bit more I had my Charles Bream takes Ready to go Oh man, where's Scott Kennedy? going to be a bit more of a Charles, a Charles Bream takes ready to go.

Yeah. Oh man. We're Scott Kennedy. Isn't that the real crime? Onward and upward. Scott Kennedy currently being discussed as a Liverpool signing to replace Virgil van Dijk after what we saw today. All right. Thank you everyone for listening with us.

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