SoccerWise - EXCLUSIVE For Denver Founding Member Jordan Angeli On NWSL Expansion

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

You know her very well one of the co-hosts of Soccerwise but Jordan Angeli had a big week for other reasons. NWSL has officially announced Denver as the newest club entering in 2026. So Jordan tells us all about the big announcement and all excitement in Colorado. Soccerwise Live 2pm ET Every Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday on Youtube/Twitch/Twitter

what is up everybody we have a special episode of soccer eyes coming to you here on a friday afternoon live on youtube as well as of course anywhere you get your podcasts. It is special for many reasons. One, live episode on Friday we don't normally do. That is the least of the reasons why this is special. The big ones, Jordan Angeli, back in the Northern Hemisphere, back in North America, back on the show. But she is not here as a co-host. She's here as a guest coming in as, let me read this, Jordan Angeli, founding member of FDFC for Denver, for Colorado.

As yesterday, NWSL officially announced Denver as the 16th NWSL team coming in, coming in in 2026. Jordan, this has been a long one. We have had the graphic on this show for about four months saying SoccerWise is for Denver. And now it is official. Thank you for joining us. Oh, gosh. This is, I'm just really happy to be back. I think when I saw you this morning, we both were just like so smiling. Well, we started singing right away, which was really nice.

Mariah Carey brought us in. Yeah. So it's nice to be back. But yeah, I actually, my cheeks are really sore from smiling because I feel like I haven't stopped smiling for the last 24 hours now that everything is officially official. I've had to keep my lips zipped for a long time. And now I can finally talk about it. Denver is a soccer city. It's the next city that NWSL chose.

And as a native, man, I am just so proud, so happy. And it finally is starting to feel like it's a real thing. There are like these moments in life you have, graduations, right? Life cycle events is what people call it. Graduations, birth of children, engagements, whatever it is, achievements. I assume this was one of these for you, right? Your whole world, sort of everyone coming to you.

I've seen social media, everyone posting like us at SoccerWise, how proud we are of you. What's the last 24 hours been like? Well, I just have to say because denver like soccer wise has always been for denver and i just have appreciated your guys's support um morgan has posted some like awesome yeah social stuff to support um fdfc and now denver nwsl it has been a whirlwind of 24 hours like i i don't think I've received this many text messages in forever. I still have like, I don't even know what the number was.

40, 41 on my computer that I have to, and I'm not, I'm like, I'm a person that I need to get that off. Yeah. Um, so the red,

the red number is flashing. Yeah. And it's really only with text messages. Like, cause if I don't do it, I won't do it. And I know that about myself. So it's just been overwhelming and the best way to see so many people, um, who have seen me go through this journey and right. Put a lot of, um, sweat equity into trying to make this happen and something that I wouldn't change, right? I would never change what we put into FDFC to make this become a reality because, man, the last 24 hours have been so worth it.

At the party yesterday, I had a girl that I used to play against in youth soccer. Yeah. I invited to come a teammate from the under-20 national team, many players from NWSL, a girl I went to high school with who works for the guy that, like, and I didn't know that, that led the bid. Like, she is his personal assistant. To my family, to, like, all the reporters that I know from the Rapids, Rapids, people that I work with at the Rapids.

Yeah. I just am like overwhelmed. And it did feel a little bit like a wedding because you get five minutes with everybody. And you're like, can't believe they're all in the same place. It's like a crossover episode or a series finale. Yes. And you're like, wait, you're here too? It was just incredible.

And to get to stand in front of my community and say, you know, Denver, welcome to NWSL was a highlight. I need to get a little a little clip of that because I want to always remember what that felt like as a kid growing up here, wanted to be a pro soccer player, knowing that those dreams are going to be unlocked for so many other young soccer players in this area. What is that feeling for the area? What are the messages you're getting from people? What are you seeing on the ground? What was the event of the like of how people are reacting to this reality, which probably two years ago, no one was really thinking or talking about. And I think in the soccer community, people probably have always hoped for.

But now all of a sudden comes to fruition. Yeah, it's funny, right? Because it has been talked about for a long time. Like I, these girls I used to coach at the Rush, actually, Corey Dyke, who plays for Orlando Pride, her mom and I talked about it, like we've talked about it for years. And we just are like, we need somebody with the money, right? We need somebody with the money. So I'm sure so many different conversations like that have happened a lot, but now like figuring out how to do that and how to get to a place like yesterday when like the commissioner hands Rob Cohen a ball and says, welcome to NWSL. It takes a lot of work.

And I think the feeling in Denver is, why hasn't this happened earlier, is what a lot of people said. And we're like, well, you know, if it was earlier, we probably would have spent a couple million, not hundreds of millions. But that's besides the point. I think in general what the conversations that I've been having, I want to speak to this one conversation that I had with this woman. Her last name's not Wainer anymore, but Abby Wainer was like one of the best basketball players to come out of the state of Colorado. She was so good my age, went to Duke was in as a friend of mine still. And she when it got announced, she sent me this message she talked about with her her daughter.

She has a I don't know, seven year old daughter. And she told her daughter, like named all the sports teams in Denver, you know, the Broncos, Nuggets, Avalanche, Rockies, Mammoth, Rapids. And she was like, do you notice anything? And her daughter was like, yeah, they're all boys teams. And she goes, what if I told you Denver now has a women's soccer team? And she said the look on her daughter's face was, yeah, I get emotional because. I have chills right now. Yeah, that's what I did it. I did it for those little girls who will get to go watch women's soccer players play and

to look at them and say, they're not just this dream on a TV. It's a person in front of me who had the same dream as I had and they went and pursued it and they worked really hard and things went their way at moments, but that they can too pursue something like that. So that really stuck out to me. And Abby said she was crying and I was like, well, I'm crying now. And again, so it's conversations like that. It's a story of a girl last night, Goss, that she is a niece of one of our FDFC ambassadors. And she came and she asked Rob Cohen for his autograph. The new lead investor and governor of this NWSL team asked him for his autograph. And he's like, you know, I think this is the first autograph I've ever given. And he's telling this story

in front of the community at the last, the later half of the event yesterday. And she goes, he goes, I've never, he said, I never had anybody ask for my autograph. And she goes, well, I'll ask for it one more time when you sign my contract in 10 years. And I was like, okay, girl is so smart. Um, it's, it's things like that, that, um, I just know that this isn't about me. And I just feel, I have felt so much a part of a team for the last two years and building this. And that's something I've always liked. I love being a part of a team. I love working together towards something bigger than yourself. And the impact of this is, you know, I hope as a part of my legacy, something that it's probably the biggest

thing that I'll ever accomplish when it comes to what it's going to do for other people in the future. It will be pretty hard to match. I think it's one of those things for most people, if it ever gets near their resume or their lifetime, it is probably up there. Let's talk about Colorado for a second, because this is a dream for a lot of people. And I think we live in a world where we hope that every person in every community has sort of a pyramid like this that they can achieve for. And most people won't, you know, reach that. But having something to aspire to gives you sort of that thing to push for and fight for. And people accomplish things because of that.

But Colorado is a soccer hotbed and that's sort of been a genesis of part of this conversation is and you rattle it off every time the national team comes up you're like Colorado Colorado Colorado coaches people who have gone across college soccer all around the world what is Colorado soccer like it's you know a pro team doesn't always have the DNA of the exact community but give people an idea of like why this area is so successful and what defines players who come from here. Yeah. I, I think for a long time, like Colorado was, and it still is a growing city, but like when I was growing up playing,

you could kind of see the, the, the soccer start to shift in the area and like be really good in the areas that were growing. Like the Lakewood area when I was, everybody was moving there with young families and then Highlands Ranch, everybody was moving there with young families. And now we're kind of seeing it a little bit more out east in like the Aurora area. I think that really helped. But it also has been, we've just had really good coaches taking over organizations from Tom Stone and Tim Schultz

um you know starting the Colorado Rush which is now a mega club across the the world uh they really laid the foundation there and then um that was taken over by Eric Boucher who to me is the best soccer coach I've ever had he He's now the coach of Rapids too. But he just is, he's just a tactical genius, a man who really knows the game well and can communicate it really well. So they kind of led this rush organization and there was just competitiveness within every single team. And I think that really bred something beautiful. But then we had Real, which is right down the road. And these two teams were rivals. And Lorne Donaldson, who's now coach of the Chicago Stars.

Thank you. He really has made that a club on a national level that is recognized. And so I think that there was internal competition. Storm as well was in there for a long time. Now Rapids has some competition with all those. There's just this really good group of clubs and competition within this area. But then I think you add the elements of Denver. It's 5,000 feet above sea level. It doesn't hurt altitude. It, you have to be fit to play here. There's a grittiness about it. You know,

I trained on dirt fields growing up because we didn't have fields. So we trained anywhere we could, you know, tried trapping a ball or controlling a ball when it bounces off a rock in front of you, you know, you have to be better. We play in the snow we play in um the scorching heat in the summertime so i feel like there's a grittiness about i think colorado athletes in general but we see it dominate dominate in the women's soccer world that has allowed us to be successful from alicia kramer back in the day to Marion Dalmy-Doherty, who played on the national team to now what we're seeing with Lindsay Horan, Mal Swanson, Sophia Smith, and then all the players that are in NWSL.

It has been really cool to see so many players succeed, but I think that is kind of in our DNA. Like we, I don't know, it's like we don't take no for an answer. We're just like keeping on competing, which is great. I've always wondered, because not to bring up, you know, other places, but Utah's had a bit of success for players as well. I do wonder the connection to other world-class sports, like snow sports and skiing and all of that,

has created sort of a level of like, my friend is a world-class athlete. I'm good at what I do. So I'm like, there's almost like a level of expectation. It feels like for Colorado players on the women's side, that doesn't exist everywhere of like, I know if I can, and you talk about the competition. If I'm the best player in Denver, I'm the best player. Like I can be the best player in the world.

And I don't know that everyone has that everywhere. Yeah. And like you were saying, like you can go to different sports, Missy Franklin, best swimmer in the world and I don't know that everyone has that everywhere yeah and like you were saying like you can go to different sports Missy Franklin best swimmer in the world for so long Michaela Schifrin Lindsey Vonn like these these people who called Colorado home or were from Colorado um I don't know there's like you're saying you could you could go to high school with them and they're like you know they're the ones competing in the world championships and you're like I want to be in the world championships. And I think that that's like a really healthy competition that has fostered itself in this community. You just named a lot of celebrities and a lot of big names.

Are any of them for Denver? Well, I don't think Lindsey Vonn could be right. Cause she is a Utah Royals, but yeah, I mean, mean those are those are people that i've targeted for a long time and i am really hopeful and kind of have a feeling that we're not we haven't seen the end of what this ownership group looks like when it comes to especially those kind of people those names because now that the team is official it um you want that kind of stuff right like i i said earlier um in the podcast like uh last year how i was really nervous when caitlin clark got into the cincinnati bid because how are you going to compete with that well um you know there's a lot of people that i would like to see those women included um maybe maybe some other big names in colorado that i would love to be a part of this. And who

knows? You should throw me on a group chat. I just, you know, me, Missy Franklin, Michaela Shifrin. Once I get on the group chat, I'll put you in. Yeah. You know, we'll just all hang out. We'll talk about the things we do. You know, our lives are all very similar in many ways. Let me ask you this. This is, you know, a fascinating process, but one that few of us will go through. So now what have you maybe learned or seen in a pro sports atmosphere from this side of things that you wouldn't have thought of, or you didn't realize, or you thought was really interesting that people should sort of know? It is, you know, I think it would be very different if it were a few years ago. I'm not

saying that people weren't trying to get into, um, NWSL, but I, you know, you just interviewed, um, who are you? Party. And she said 80 different parties reached out to NWSL. I'm glad, I'm glad that interview happened after you got your team. I was like, wow. I mean, I look tired today, but can you imagine if I knew that there were 80 people trying to get this? So I think it was really competitive. And one of the things that I really enjoyed about the process is it was like every step there was like little things that NWSL was saying, okay, this is good. But like, if you don't have this, this and this, like you're, you're not gonna, you're not gonna go to the next level. And I really noticed that at the commissioner's visit to Denver, we had FDFC presented to

the commissioner and then we had a dinner and I got to talk to the commissioner and she was like, she's like, I gave some hard feedback to Rob. Like I gave him like, these are the things that need to change in order for this to be a winning bid in NWSL. And I thought that that was really interesting because when it is that competitive, you would think if you don't have those things, maybe you just kind of move on to the next thing. But there was a real, it felt like to me from the commissioner, from NWSL side, there was a real, like, we want every team to succeed and we really want the best bid to win. And so here are the things that we know as a league that can be helpful for you and, you know, try to make this happen.

So you can, like all of you guys can really truly compete against each other and we can make it the best, may the best team, may the best city, may the best bid win. That was really interesting. And it's a lot of like, I mean, I'm sure everybody would guess it, but it was a lot of work like to get all of these. I just have to shout out like Ben Hubbard, Tom Dunmore, Nicole Glaros. These are three really brilliant business minds. Ben owns his own company. Tom has launched, I don't even know how many teams now,

but Indie 11, he launched a cricket league. He's launching a snowboard league now. He understands how to do this. And then Nicole is just a mastermind in fundraising. She works, she's been with tech stars for a long time and, um, has her own funds now just learning from them, like surround yourself with people that you can learn from. Like I, I would sit in conversations with them and I'm like, okay, write that down and look up what that word means. Or I'd like ask them like, what are you guys saying here? Like we're, we're speaking in lingo that this soccer player doesn't really quite understand.

I just felt like it was, it was a lot of work. The number of, um, meetings that Ben had with political people with, you know, he, he brought together a handful of the people that are now the main investing group. Like Ben brought them all together, um, and said, Hey, you should meet him and you should meet him. And let's have a conversation. Cause this really might, might work. Um, I just felt like I learned so much from them. And I think Ben said on the way he lives in London now on his way back to Denver, he had 120 like pages. He has one of those like cool notebooks that are like digital yeah he had 121 i lost mine that's how you know i'll never found a pro team i literally had one and lost it

those are cool yeah those are really cool i'm aware uh sorry i didn't think that that was gonna break your heart no you're good um he that's a lot of notes like you know That's a lot of notes. That's a lot of meetings that he took to try to make this happen. And so I just, you know, there's a lot of effort. You know, you see yesterday and it was a great success with an awesome launch party. That was like five, six hours, you know, between the press conference and the fan rally. But all that doesn't happen without all those meetings, without all that work. And, you know, it was it was worth it. But in the time you're grinding and you're not finding anybody that says, hey, we're going to invest and you feel like, who is this going to happen? And then you get that one meeting. And I remember

when Ben met with Rob and he he texted us right after and said, I think I found our guy. And then you get that one meeting. And I remember when Ben met with Rob and he, he texted us right after and said, I think I found our guy. And, um, I was in Connecticut and we had a meeting with Rob on zoom and he left and we all stayed. And I remember the feeling of like, you guys, I think we're going to, I think we're going to have a lead investor. Like we're going to actually do this. We launched something to find somebody, and here that person is. And it's just cool to see it all happen. And it was a lot of work that went into it.

So I would say that's probably one of the biggest things that I learned. I think it's great advice for anyone who wants to do anything. Obviously, not just launching a soccer team, but getting around people who are smarter than you so that you can, uh, so that you can do some really great things and bring your own pieces of, and skills to the table. Um, where were you when you finally found out? Cause we did, you know, it, news had trickled externally. You were on the show, I believe once where we thought there was news, but we didn't know. Um, what do you remember about finally finding out? Um, which time? Yeah. Um, I would say there was a moment. So it was when the first leak happened that, um, I was, I was at actually a workout class. I was driving home and I was at a stoplight and I checked my

phone. So please don't turn me in for looking at the phone while I'm driving. Um, well actually on my, on my car, it like popped up text message from Jeff Kasuf. And I was like, what is this? So I looked at my phone cause Jeff has been like a huge supporter of this. I mean, just a huge supporter of women's soccer, what he's done with equalizer over the last i don't know 10 years plus has been incredible and so he he texted me and he said that the tech said um denver something about someone from nwsl told him that denver got the bid and i just like started crying because that's me because i had like a couple of moments that like hinted to it earlier and when he sent that I was like I think this really happened so

I sent the text message that morning I think it was like the 17th of December, I sent that text message to the FDFC people. And they were like, what? What's going on? And then Tom called me and he was like, it's happening. Wow. And so I was in my car and then sitting right over here in my living room, which was cool because, like, I don't know. When you have a big memory that happens in your space, I think it makes it that

much more special so yeah I just it was December 17th and then we had our meeting with Rob on the 23rd so we already had this meeting scheduled for Monday the 23rd but welcome to sports things get leaked all the time and so Rob was like I was hoping to tell you guys this on this call but um we're you're looking at the next nwsl team um coming to denver so and then that i was sitting right here yeah so denver nwsl that's what it's called right now yes wouldn't say it's the catchiest name do we have uh do we have we have vibes yet for what it could be? Should we take open suggestions? You can't think of another pro sports team that's like Chicago NBA.

Do not even. Honestly, well, I think the Utah Hockey Club, they did a temporary name to move the team to Utah. They did a temp name. And I think most people want to keep the temp name. Yeah, well, it's weird because two of the names that they are looking at are the Outlaws and the Mammoth. And those are two Denver sports teams already.

The Outlaws is lacrosse and the Mammoth, wait, they're both lacrosse, but like different lacrosse. Yeah, indoor, outdoor. Yeah. I'm like, wow, stop trying to take our name stop trying to steal our stuff uh they also tried yetis which yeti was not stoked about i know but yetis would have been awesome yeah it would have been a cool sports name yeah um yeah i can't see why they wouldn't be stoked unless they got like a big sponsorship deal where they didn't have to pay as much money

anyways that's besides the point um I don't have very many names that I have thought of. I think there are, our sports teams here have really good names. Rockies, Nuggets, Avalanche, Rapids, Broncos. Like there are really, and the other ones that I just mentioned, they're strong names. And I am struggling with what this could be. If you guys have, are in it watching this and you have some ideas, please send them our way. But that's one of the things that Rob talked about. There is going to be a collaboration with,

they wanted to make sure that the name was done right. Because do I have to say when it wasn't done right recently? I just, I would like to see a cut of the opening commercial before it goes out. I would like to be able to at least help out in that one way. Yeah. Um, so we're trying to do it right the first time and with doing it right, you know, you want to make sure the community is involved because they have been a big part of you know this actually happening um i don't know when that process is going to begin but i think there's also you know kansas city started with a

temporary name when they came back into the league and so i think that there is and this is just jordan speaking there is a potential to play your first year as a temp name um i don't see the harm in it because people are buying you know maybe people are buying kits both years and then you have like the inaugural kit with the inaugural team which is a really kind of a cool concept there is there is the like novelty of it and then there is one of the things i've seen we've both seen how many soccer teams launched in this country and in canada there are like things that excite people and when they're all done at the same time it's amazing but sometimes when it's different of first game is not in the new stadium so the first game's an event then the name launches an event then the stadium is an event

sometimes those rallying points give you multiple tent poles to go through obviously i don't have a plan laid out for an nwsl team in denver so i don't know what's going on but like i remember when the philadelphia union played at lincoln financial field and sold it out because people were pumped then opened their own stadium seven months later a year later and then that was a huge event and so there are ways that you can sort of do it like you said with kansas city of like having these tentpole moments that rally people around. While I'm speculating, I will say I'm excited to see the spine of Lindsey Horan and Sophia Wilson now and Mal Swanson. Yes, I said Smith.

No, you're good. I think they have a shot at competing. I don't know. I could be wrong. So when we build that NWSL Colorado Dream Team over the course of the next two years, just in our imaginations and other names that come to mind over the last day that you haven't mentioned that you think of in this moment being like, the sport wouldn't be here, this project wouldn't be here, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for these people, like, or people that maybe you reached out to and have spoken to? Yeah, I think just first, like my family and just supporting me in this, they were all

there last night. And that is, you know, a really special thing to me. That's how it's always been. And I feel very blessed that that is my family. But they have been incredible in this entire journey supporting me. And, you know, my dad probably helping me out with some of the business stuff that everybody's talking about. And it just is, it's cool to look out and see your niece and nephew.

Seeing this happen. Watch you launch a pro sports team yeah see this happen it was really it was really neat um i'll have to say skylark and wonderworks have been incredible these are two businesses skylark is a pr agency uh wonderworks is a creative agency here in denver both with Denver roots. Brendan Hannon from Skylark is a Denver native and has been in soccer for a long, long time. And when you have a crazy idea and you bring it to people and they look you in the eye with that same kind of crazy eye and they're like, let's do it. These guys worked for FDFC for a long time without getting paid

and i'm so happy that rob has brought them on to continue to do the creative like i think the creative for fdfc and now um what i've seen in the website and with the launch yesterday that wonderworks has done is incredible skylark put on a great event yesterday. It went by with like no flubs, which when does that happen? Yeah. And so they have just been incredible to work with. And we really, we honestly wouldn't be here without them. If they didn't give their time and say, this is worth it. This is something we're excited also to be a part of.

There's no way we're launching Denver NWSL yesterday. I think just like in general, Nate Schatz is a member of Colorado Soccer Association. He is an old ODP coach of mine. Like I've known him forever. He has been supportive all along and been sending out as much information to Colorado Soccer Association as possible. So I'd like to shout him out. But, I mean, there's so many people. This took a team effort, but the FDFC people who I already mentioned are ambassadors. Like, gosh, a couple months into having ambassadors,

after launching in July of 2023, we had over 100 people that were like, I'll throw a watch party. I'll do an event i'll do this and um you know yesterday standing in front of the fan rally i i got to talk to everybody and said who you know was that number 38 number 38 should be mentioned because they held a lot of uh watch parties for us i was like who was at that first launch party and all these people raised their hand and then i said who is an ambassador here who helped bring this? And like all these ambassadors raised their hand. I think it's really nice to acknowledge people like that who, you know, there, there's nothing in it for

them as, as far as like a financial state goes. It's just passion. There's a community aspect that was created with this FDFC that like people feel a part of something. And I think when you do that, we saw it with Atlanta when Atlanta United launched. We saw it with LAFC when they launched that they already had all these people behind them saying, this is my team. I think that is going to really set the level for what Denver NWSL can do when it comes to how well they are supported and the chance and everything that they're probably already planning because they already have it. Well, now they officially have a team, but they were already invested way before that. So just really thankful

for all those people. So in the chat, we've got Mile High FC, Red Rock FC and Flatiron FC so far. I will say, David Goss, FC should be SC. Like, fine. We started a thing called Soccer Wise, not Football Wise, so that's just me. I do like all those ideas. I was going to say something about moguls or black diamonds or whatever, but it might be too specific and

too intense, but you are welcome for the three names. Thank you to Claude as well as Roots and Flat. And Crash the Karsh in our chat and too intense, but you are welcome for the three names. Thank you to Claude as well as roots in flat, um, and crash the cars in our chat says so thankful for all the amazing work that went into getting this over the finish line. My 10 year old daughter can't wait for the Academy to get going so she can be one of the homegrowns. It is going to be pretty special. This is one of the coolest things that I've ever seen happen.

It's been amazing to watch you go through the process. Um, congratulations. It's well-deserved. I'm glad you could come on here and talk about it. Denver is officially an NWSL market now going forward to launch in 2026. I promise you this, as a good friend, I will be brutal in my tactical analysis about this team from day one. No, no punches pulled, no preferential treatment. We cannot wait to see this go down. It is going to be so much fun. And now you're back. But you better be at that first game. Oh, yeah. Zero check. There's no question. You mentioned this about the union, how they played at Lincoln Financial. I want the biggest ever opening day at NWSL. I want to play at my Empire field.

Yeah. I want it to be full. And I want everybody in Colorado to show, you know, we're not here just to participate. Yeah. We are here to set records, win championships, and do all that. So you're going to be one of those 70,000 that are there. My in-laws already have eight season deposits down and the team launched yesterday. So I promised them that I would be there. I cannot wait to be there. Soccer-wise,

we'll cover all of it. We'll have to get on the ground in Denver as much as humanly possible to do it. Can I just say that too, that season ticket deposits are open. It's on denvernwsl.com. You can go and get those. gotta get that in um i think yesterday after a few hours we already had 2 000 season ticket deposits 2 000 purchased so i don't know what that number looks like um which is great keep it rolling people keep it rolling keep it rolling uh it is a reality it is exciting and as i now you're back. So we're going to cover the rest of NWSL going forward. We'll be back next week with all of our SoccerWise content. We've got an interview to come out on Monday.

We are going to have an interview with a big name NWSL trade. I don't want to give too much because things move and you never know what's going to happen. But I think we're going to have that locked in. We're going to talk all about the offseason, transfers, moves, what's going on in the league, and everything else around it. If you haven't watched it already, we had Casey Stoney on two weeks ago,

talk about the Canadian women's national team and NWSL from her point of view as well. You mentioned Pardeep coming on on Wednesday to give us the behind the scenes from the NWSL Media Day. It has been an incredible time to cover the league. It is more exciting now with better and bigger markets coming in time. And again, Denver is now official. Jordan Angeli has gotten it done and we are so excited. So thank you for coming on as an interview. Thank you for joining us here at SoccerWise. We appreciate it. That was really fun. Thanks, Gus. And we got a lot to talk about, so I'll see you next week. Yeah, we've got a lot to talk about. So thank you to all of you in the chat. Shout out to Colorado Summit FC, Iron Ridge FC, Front Rangers FC.

Lots of names. Send them to all of us. Fourteeners as well. And we'll talk to you again very, very soon.