SoccerWise - NWSL Edition: SheBelieves Starting XI, Denver Naming & Portland Offseason Deep Dive

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

Jordan & David are so excited about the kickoff of the 2025 SheBelieves Cup. They present their preferred starting lineups for the first game. Then they dig into all the news around NWSL including a p...otential name for Denver & Orlando's newest signing. And then they continue their offseason recap with a deep dive on the Portland Thorns.3:45 Greatest April Fools Prank Ever6:51 Jordan & Davids USWNT Starting XI19:09 Discord Questions On Ally Sentnor, Tara McKeown & Uncapped Call-ups30:30 Voting On Denver’s Club Name43:36 Deep Dive On Portland’s Offseason Soccerwise Live 2pm ET Every Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday on Youtube/Twitch/Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome everybody into Soccer Line. David Goss and Rap Star Jordan Angeley here. You've got the hoodie on. You were leaning back just like feeling the flow. Just chilling. We're kind of silly today. We got some silly vibes within us. It feels very off season. Doesn't this feel like an early camp? You just wander out to the field whatever time, you do what you have to do. You got to get rid of the sillies before you start playing. Some of that comes in like my rap stance.
Starting point is 00:00:46 And maybe I think you'll have a few bars about the US Women's National Team and potential starting lineups in there. I've been on the MLS side of things. I've been hosting preview episodes with 30 different podcast hosts. And a lot of them have theme songs that they have produced and written.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Some have put video to. It's like really impressive. Yeah. Do we have that skill set? You never know until you try. True. That is true. We might as well give it a go.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Maybe we can use some of these new friends of yours to help us with, you know, produce some of the production, some of the vocal synthesizing because we might need that. Yeah, I'm jingle writing, you know, I'm not a good jingle writer but we could figure it out. We'll do a full We Are the World right recording wasn't that famous? Yes. Get 35 stars in a room and it will just be me, you, and maybe we'll throw a Tom in there as well. And all of us can try and write something up. I am not creative. I have no rhythm. I am not musically talented, but I'm a good team player.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I'm here to help. I'll definitely yes and as much as possible. So I think we just sold it. I think everybody's really excited for our new theme song produced intro that we have going on. I think so too. If not, you can be excited about the rest of the show
Starting point is 00:02:09 coming up. We're gonna give our starting lineups that we would like to see in match one for the US Women's National Team against Columbia. We'll go through some fan questions that we got in our Discord. If you do not, you can subscribe to our Patreon that will get you access to our Discord
Starting point is 00:02:23 where we're always hanging out and talking during games before games as news breaks whatever it is I will be in there on Thursday evening talking US women's national team as well we've got a Canadian national team channel in there NWSL all of those other things and it gets you access to our depth charts which are partially updated to the full spot of where they need to be about 50% there and I'm working on the rest of it. But that gives you a clear idea about where teams stand, lineups, all that type of stuff. We are going to be using it today because we're going to be talking about the Portland Thorns.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Doing a little bit of an update. I think we've hit, over the last few weeks, we've hit Houston, we've hit Gotham, we hit Bay, we hit, I want to say North Carolina. Can we talk about Washington? We have talked to Washington as news has come in on Washington I think we did like a full reset on North Carolina and where they sent I think those have been the four main ones so Far we are putting our plans to paper right now for our preseason coverage So we've got a lot coming up reminder the end of yourself challenge Cup is March 7th in Orlando, Orlando against Washington. And then one week later, we start the NWSL full season. So it's right around the corner
Starting point is 00:03:32 with February being the shortest month. And we're going to have all your coverage right here all the time. Before we get into it off season, do you have a pre-season memory? Do you have a pre-season vibe? What was your experience living through pre-season matches and camps and all that type of stuff? Gosh, got to go back in the archives for this one. Pre-season is great and also terrible at the same time, right? Because you're learning so much and it's so fun when you get a new group together or like Can build off what you've you've had the year before but it's hard you're just so happy when you get to the point where there's games in the near future because you're just kind of
Starting point is 00:04:21 you're sick of the the routine of just training and you want to compete as professional athletes that's what you want to do you want to compete you want to gain that means something so I'm trying to think of you know back in the day our season started a little later so like we started preseason in March and wouldn't start our first games till April and when I was at Boston we Ke, Keelin Winters, no, sorry, it was Nikki Washington and I, it was April Fool's Day, and we pulled the best April Fool's prank. We got in a fight, like during the, so the whole day we were kind of bickering at each other. And Tony, we told Tony DeCicco, he was our head coach. We were like, Tony, we're going to do this.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And like, we need you on our side. So first he put us on the same team. And then we were like Tony we're gonna do this and like we need you on our side so first he put us on the same team and then we were like bickering at each other and then he's like you two like Jordan you're on that team Nikki stay on this team split us up and like we kept chirping each other and then we it came to a head and we like gotten this confrontation and Keelan Winters was like guys guys guys stop what is going on? And I just walked out. I was like, this is it, I'm not taking this anymore. Walked out and everybody was staring at us. And then I look at Nikki, we go, April Fools.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And they were like, no way. It was a legendary April Fools day and that was our pre-season. And so it was kind of gave us a little joy during the middle of just another training in the bubble. It was in Boston at that time. So we're just like, here we go into the bubble again.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, that was so that was an epic preseason moment for for whose idea was that? I don't know, Nikki and I I don't know. It was probably Nikki's. She Yeah, she's just so funny like that and um Keelin was one of the younger players on the team and I just will I will never forget she was like what is going like just new to the league what is going on with people are like. It was so good. Classic Tony Angelou just hot head throwing throwing fists and then walking off the field. And just like a good memory too of Tony DeCicco and he's just the best.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah. Legend and I didn't prep you for this at all and you have an unbelievable story to go to. So there you go. You are quick on your feet. That's why you're known for the freestyle style a little bit more than maybe the pre-planned stuff. That's what I sayanned stuff Yeah bars in your rap career. Let's leave your rap career and let's go into the soccer part Which is the thing we probably know more about
Starting point is 00:06:52 She believes cup kicks off tomorrow night if you are listening on the day of or watching live Thursday at 2 Thursday on the 20th at 8 p.m Eastern time for the US women's national team that first matches against Columbia Reminder Japan and Australia are the other two teams they will play each other and then by the time we are coming back for our Show next week. There will have been a second game and then the final game is next Wednesday night As well for the US women's national team. We went through the roster last show We sort of dug into some of the ideas behind this,
Starting point is 00:07:27 what Emma Hayes is trying to build, what she's trying to do. She has spoken a lot over the last week about that as well. Opportunity for uncapped players, opportunity for newer players, trying to sort of push the next generation into the national team.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And we see a lot of that in this team, as well as some staples like the Lindsay Heaps of the world and other players who have been around and some legends as Emily Sane is going to be honored for in her hundredth cap in this camp which shows the incredible career she has had so far a little bit of silverware to go along with that as well. So we've talked a lot about the rosters. We have some questions from our Discord about a couple of players.
Starting point is 00:08:10 But before we do that, let's give our starting lineups what we think we'll see, what we expect to see. Jordan, I'm going to let you set the tone with this one. OK, well, I think it's important to say the U.S. women's national team is playing Colombia, which is a team ranked 21st in the nation, but they've had really a resurgence in the last few years, really good performance at the Women's World Cup in 23, a good performance again at the Olympics. Kind of fell off a little bit at the end of the year, didn't win I think in their last five games it was, so weren't playing their best football.
Starting point is 00:08:43 But it is going gonna be one competitive in the physical side of things. They have some really top players like Uzme, Caicedo, Maidara Ramirez. So they're a good squad, but with that being said, I think they're gonna get, they're gonna be a little less organized than the other teams that the United States sees.
Starting point is 00:09:04 So with that in mind, I started to think of what team I would want to see that could exploit these spaces a little bit more. And so I'm going to start with Jane Campbell in net. This is a place for the dash. This game is in Houston. It makes sense to me to start off with somebody with a little bit more experience in net in this new era of US women's national team goalkeepers, right? No more Alyssa Nair. She retired in the fall. So Jane Campbell is starting that from left to right across the back line. Jenna Niswonger left back, Emily Sonnet left center back, Emily Sams. So full Emily back line with also Emily Fox as the right back. So we're getting Emily.
Starting point is 00:09:45 That was the focus for you? Yeah, I only put Emily's in the back line. So I don't know how Jenna popped in there, but we needed a left back. So I put Emily Sonnet in. I actually would have preferred to put Davidson in because I want to see Davidson Sam's next to each other. But since Sonnet is getting honored, I felt like they were probably going to give her the start in this match.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And I still think that's a pretty solid center back pair and Sonnet can play anywhere in those two center back spots and also in the midfield. So that's my back line. Moving forward, Sam Coffey will play the six, Heaps will, Heaps, I just said it like it was normal. Lindsey Haran, now Lindsey Heaps, willaps. I just said it like it was normal Lindsey Haran now Lindsey heaps will be the a and then I'm gonna put Katerina Macario at the 10 and We spoke about this last week, right is are you taking the positions that these players are named at in the Official announcement to heart and I can't remember now was Macario as a forward or she is listed as a foe
Starting point is 00:10:44 She listed as a But she is listed along Eight other players that are listed as forward so it's a large pool. It's yeah probably means the front four Right, so I put mccario in there She's back which i'm stoked about and emma haze knows her very well And the reason why I put her at the 10 is because I put jaden shaw at the 9 And I think that those two are gonna interchange a lot if this was my starting lineup, I would want that from both of them and then in the the channels I had Alyssa Thompson on the left side and
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yasmeen Ryan on the right side as a winger. So that's my starting 11 I don't know. I feel like it's pretty strong. With the with the caveat of there's going to be some space to exploit. So can Thompson be the one that stretches? Ryan can also stretch in behind if given if need be. But then it also creates potentially an overload centrally where Ryan can come inside and play alongside McCarrio or Shaw in moments and use that creativity alongside two other very creative players. What do you think? I like it. I like a lot of it. I have Emily Sonnet starting as well for the same reason. I also would have gone a little more
Starting point is 00:11:58 experimental in those spots. I have one or two tweaks from what you have, but I think overall it's a similar idea Basically my difference is I have Yasmin Ryan in Central Midfield as the time alongside coffee and heat yep, and then pushing Shaw out wide and McCarrio up top and My thinking there is I like the idea of having even more ball, more comfort on the ball and ball progression in central midfield. And I think I don't know that that will be Yasmin Ryan forever. I think there are other players coming up through the pool who are capable of that. And I was like close to putting Claire Hutton on this and it's like there's no way it's gonna start this game.
Starting point is 00:12:47 So I can't do that. But that idea or Hal Hirschfeldt or whoever it is sort of pushing through and I think this sort of gives you a test to see what Sam Coffey looks with that player and what heaps looks like. Because I think in this setup, so I have Crystal Dunn, the one different, and then Tara McEon instead of Sam's. I think that one is, the one different, one different and then Tarek McKeown instead of Sam's. I think that one is, you could go either way. My guess will be in three games.
Starting point is 00:13:09 They would probably, they will probably both start at least one, if not two, in terms of all the rotations you have. I think they're fighting for a similar role of a good ball playing center back who can cover over the top. Like I think they are both in that vein and I think they're both fighting for the next spot
Starting point is 00:13:29 at center back that's coming through if Naomi Germa and Terina Davidson are your when healthy locked in starters and Sonnet moving into the next half of her career. So I had that one difference. And then with Dunne and Niswanger, I think you're talking about two players who both need to prove it this year in different ways.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I think for Jen and Niswonger, I'm still waiting to see that she is a national team left back, not a national team level player. The quality she has as a soccer player is clear, but it is converted into that left back spot and not yet a left back, which is why Crystal Dunne has held the spot. Dunne now just needs to show that she's still at the level she was at the Olympics. We haven't seen her play yet really at the club level
Starting point is 00:14:10 so I think you're splitting hairs there but with Giselle Thompson being the third option she's not probably ready yet to start and so that was that debate. But then into midfield I like the idea of having that possession. I also like the idea of the potential interchange. Heaps can drop deeper, Ryan can push higher, Shaw can rotate inside Macario. All of that is interchangeable to me, which I think is a huge step coming for the US of, okay, with triple espresso, how do we break down a little block?
Starting point is 00:14:37 Elite talent, can we isolate players? Can we get them into one-v-one situations? And then the quick ball playing is that last little bit. I think one of your other options could be, well, all five of these players could show up in different spots. Can that be sort of the rotation and movements which throw off a defense?
Starting point is 00:14:53 Is the off ball movements, picking up positions that are different, trying to make other teams make decisions of who they're gonna follow, when they're gonna stay, and I think this group has that capability, like you said with Sean Macario, of like, almost everyone can interchange and pick up a different position and so that was sort of what I leaned with with this one unless Claire Hutton is going to stay. Yeah and I agree I think I hope we do see Claire Hutton starting one of these games and I can imagine she will. The
Starting point is 00:15:22 difference with Nicewang are when I'm thinking about the games to come, I'm thinking I want to start Crystal Dunn against Japan. Like just to have some stability there, because Japan is going to ask more... how should I... what's the word I want to say? Like... More defensive questions? Yeah. You have to be locked in probably for longer stretches? What they... is more sophisticated, I think, is what I want to say. Like their sophistication level is Yeah. You have to be locked in probably for longer stretches. Yeah. What they, is more sophisticated, I think, is what I want to say. Their sophistication level is a different level, this Japan national team. And I think they're bringing in some younger players, but still, it has, their style of
Starting point is 00:15:57 play is so beautiful and brilliant. And I think you want to have a good decision making outside back in those situations where I think Jenna Niswonger could excel in this game against Columbia is because yes she will be asked a lot defensively but I think there's going to be times where she can get into the attack and do what she does best as a left back. And so you're almost, maybe to your point, why wouldn't you want to start her? If she hasn't proved that she's an out and out left back for this team, she's quality to be on this team,
Starting point is 00:16:30 but are you a left back? Maybe you start her against Japan and say, solve these problems. Prove to everybody that you can solve these problems against a really elite team. So I get what you're saying there. Let me ask you this about this left wing and then we have some questions as well from the Discord,
Starting point is 00:16:49 but Niswonger as a wide player likes to stay wide, Thompson also likes to kind of stay wide. Do you like that pairing on that side or would that be one where you want to say, oh, the other option is someone who wants to pinched inside and connect or do you like the idea of like? Having that width and having the ability to always be attacking along this side. Yeah, I think One of the things that Even just when Jenna nice longer came into the Arsenal game this weekend, is she can attack wide,
Starting point is 00:17:25 but she also can attack in that half channel, right? The channel right inside where she's getting the ball and receiving it a little bit more narrow, not to combine, but really to say, hey, can we use a little bit more width with the player out wide from me and create a combination? So she's not really like creating centrally like Emily Fox would do, but she's able to step into that space on the dribble, have somebody make a decision in front
Starting point is 00:17:53 of her, and then hopefully utilize either it's Thompson out wide of her. But I don't know, I think that's a good point. Who do you use in front of Nice Longer to get the best out of her? I think that's a good point. Who do you use in front of Nice Longer to get the best out of her? I think that's why I do like Ryan on the side where Fox is on, because those two can, Ryan can play pocket if need be, Fox can play pocket if need be,
Starting point is 00:18:16 and there's a real interchange of just like, this is the space that's given, this is how we're gonna attack it. Yeah, it was, I think one of the things we found as the Olympics went along was like, you wanna get Swanson and Rodman isolated as often as they want. And I think that probably was part
Starting point is 00:18:33 of what pushed Dawn into the team was her comfort coming inside and playing as a third central midfielder or in build outs, even rotating inside and leaving Swanson out wide on her own. And then Fox has that responsibility as well with Rodman, no triple espresso for this one, but still some big questions to be asked.
Starting point is 00:18:52 It's gonna be fun to watch. It is odd in that it's, you know, before the NWSL season starts for many of these players and yet they're high level games in, you know, big atmospheres, big crowds. And so we'll see how quickly everyone is able to get up to speed and what Emma Hayes is able to put on the field. Let's go into our two questions.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Let's start with Callan who says, as a Royals fan base, we want your thoughts on Ali Centenor. Do we think she'll see significant minutes? And if so, how does her role change from club level as the main focus to the national team? I think it's a really good question. I think Allie Centenor is going to be one of these players as this goes along, that it's like, she could play a lot of roles, but there are a lot of pieces.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And as we just talked about, there's a lot of pieces that could play a lot of roles and it's gonna be tough. She is the center of the universe at Utah and she probably won't be that in the national team. And Jordan, I kind of like that for her. There are players where I think stepping into like a super team and having a small role actually hurts them and makes it harder. She feels like one where she's so good at the little things, technically, athletically, ball striking, all those things,
Starting point is 00:20:01 that if she comes into this camp and they say, hey, we want you to be a winger for 15 minutes at the end of the game Feels like Ali Centineur can do that Well, she can because she proved that she could do it last year in a Utah team where she was asked to play as a left Winger at times asked to play at nine at times what really found herself at the end of the season as a ten with Mina Tanaka in front of her she could play a ten and And just find space like that I think that is what makes Ali Centineur, is she has all those skills that you just mentioned, but when she's in the 10 spot, she can open up, she especially likes to open
Starting point is 00:20:33 up to the left side so she can bring it inside and utilize her right foot from distance. So I would imagine, yes, her role is going to be different and she's going to be so happy that she's not the center of the universe that she has players around her not all the attention can come to her because now as a little bit of attention comes to her great like I'm gonna dish and I'm gonna find the right pass and she has the ability to Find the right final pass to combine with players in tight spaces to get in beyond if she needs to depending on where she she plays so if
Starting point is 00:21:04 If I was Emma Hayes and I'm looking at Ali Setnor and how I could utilize her, I'm probably trying to play her at a nine or a ten and play her in those internal spots and where maybe it's like this where I have McCarrion and Shaw, they're both nines, they're both tens, they could play whatever, and there's like a little bit of an interchange. Maybe there's times where it looks like it's two nines. Maybe there's times where one of the forward drops all the way in and then Ali Centenor can get in behind. I think she has the savviness about her game to play either one of those positions and I think when she plays centrally she also picks and chooses the right times to get a little bit wider. Can I drag a center back out of the space centrally
Starting point is 00:21:46 to provide space for somebody else? So that's where I would choose to put her in. But when you're looking at this frontline, you're also thinking there could be opportunities late in games, as you just said, to play on the wing. And I wouldn't want Ali Setnor coming in fresh for the last 15 minutes if I was defender. Yeah. She is one of those players where if she was not American, you'd be building the program around her for the next 10, 11 years, right? She can be the
Starting point is 00:22:15 center of everything and all of that. So it will be just, it will be interesting to see how she fits in and what role she has and then how she takes it I mean we haven't even talked about Lily Yohannes. I know I almost put her in my starting 11 Where would you have how would you have had it lined up if you did? I probably I probably would have This is where it's hard. I Would have put her as a 10. I would have put her as the 10 and then that's where I have the difficulty of like do you start shower? Do you start mark Macario because right I Don't know I don't know if you're either one of those wide they don't feel like right. Yeah So if you're a centenar you're coming in off a u20 World Cup where you were the 10 and Lily
Starting point is 00:23:01 Johannes is younger than you and she's stepping in coming out of being the 10 and I act and You still got cut her you know Macario who's you know? potentially the 10 all the time for Chelsea and Jaden Shaw and all of that and like that's where it's hard in all of this and I don't think that takes away from how Good of a player totally sentinels, but I do think In saying like the you know her base of her talent is so high her technique is so high her soccer IQ is so high her athleticism as well that I really think she's one of those pieces sort of what's happened for Crystal Dunn where it's
Starting point is 00:23:34 like they could over time say like this is a role we need filled I think Ali Centenar can do it at a really high level which will be separate from her club experience and I think she could be successful on both sides but if she gets on the field I'd expect that she will be effective because she's good enough to do it and she's shown that she's ready at this level. It takes us to our next one from WSpitchbot who says, big Tara McKeown fan hoping she gets some good minutes wondering if any of the uncapped players can make an impact. So Tara McKeown getting her first opportunity at a cap. Giselle Thompson coming in on no caps. Claire Hutton and Michelle Cooper as well.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And technically those are the only players who are uncapped. There are other players in the team like Ali Centenor who have never had a start, but they have been capped before. So those four players Wait, do you think it's the three McKeown? Thompson Hutton And Cooper Oh Cooper Cooper They're all gonna play. So who do you you think something? Yeah, I Think they're all gonna play. I think Tara McKeown gets at least one start and
Starting point is 00:24:47 I am a fan. I think your point earlier was dead on. These are ball playing center backs and they can cover this facing behind. What Sams and McKeown do is very similar for their teams. And they can both, I think one of their strong points is they both can progress the ball at their feet on the dribble. Because Sam has midfield tendencies about her. McKeown is a forward converted to a defender. So she can pick and choose the times where she's like, cool, if you guys are going to come at me, I'm going to dribble all the way and score a goal, or whatever she decides to do.
Starting point is 00:25:19 So I think McKeown will get at least one start in this series. I think Michelle Cooper will get time off the bench. And I'm interested to see where Michelle Cooper plays. Because Michelle Cooper, for the majority of her career, has been a 9. And I don't think this is a very, when you talk, there are 9s in this. But I think she adds something different than the other 9s
Starting point is 00:25:43 add in her pace to get in beyond. But her advancement as a winger over the last year and a half has been astronomical. She has gotten so much better at the positioning, the intricacies of playing that wing position that I think it wouldn't do her service if she doesn't play as a right-winger Hutton I think Hutton gets a start I Think you put her in there. I really do. I think you put her in there Because you can always change it Right, you can always bring Sam Coffey back into the match, but I think you give her a start You think she gets the start as the six? Yeah. Oh
Starting point is 00:26:23 Yeah, interesting. I think she actually start. I mean, this is me and I'm talking crazy But I think defensively as I just said or I said last week That's her strong point right like seeing where the passing lanes are cutting off the passing lane channeling someone into a space that the Team wants to defend in Am I crazy to say? I think she starts against Japan. I think maybe because, interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I think the game will be more compact in moments against Japan. So it allows her to, one, can you make decisions at this level? But two, the decisions that you have to make might be more obvious. Mm-hmm. Yeah, the game, it will be more consistent where Australia is more transition. And so there will be less defensive work probably in that spot throughout the 90 minutes in
Starting point is 00:27:22 that game, but it will be high leverage transition moments. Do I take the foul now? Do I close that space? Do I drop? And those are really, those are the high stress moments. I kind of thought it would be as an eight alongside coffee as like a, here's a safe way to introduce you. And while she is at times the six in Kansas City,
Starting point is 00:27:44 Lola Bonta does so much work. Could you just do that with Lindsay Heaps though? Yeah, but it would also be similar with coffee because then coffee could step into the attack a little more. Yeah, I think you're 100% right. I hadn't even thought of it because I just wasn't sure
Starting point is 00:28:00 that there would be the trust there, but that's what this game is built for and if it makes it's gonna do it. Yeah, if you're bringing these players in you bet you better play them give them yeah like and give them significant minutes and and yes i think it the americans we want to win right i think they've won what eight out of the ten she believes and they're probably still thinking about that one that they didn't win um i think it was to England actually. But anyways. Yeah, I think so too. But this isn't the World Cup.
Starting point is 00:28:28 This isn't the Olympics. This is a time early in the whole, what did we call that? The cycle. Early in the cycle. Where you can say sink or swim. And I think starting some of these players would actually be really beneficial for them
Starting point is 00:28:45 because then you can say, hey, really good job, XYZ is what you need to work on. These things you were excelling at, but here's where you can get better at this level. And you don't know those things until you're playing in these types of games. And that's why I really like this Columbia, Japan, Australia lineup or set up with She Blaves. Colombia, Japan, Australia lineup or set up with She Bleeves. It is definitely three different styles, three different backgrounds and all at a high international level to give these players that experience of what does it look like in all these different tests.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I think that's 100% true. And I think you're right about the, you know, if you're going to bring them in and give them the opportunity, like this is the place and time to do it. So I will be fascinated to see. I think Claire Hutton gets a start as well. I think Tara McKeown gets a start. I think Giselle Thompson's minutes will be probably the most limited of all of these. It's just tough. You're asking to sub in at left back. I think the hope would be you get ahead in a game and so you can bring her on to help see it out and get her first experience. But she's not going gonna play in the front line.
Starting point is 00:29:45 So that's not an easier introduction. And you're not really gonna make a change at that position depending on game states for a lot of games. And so that's your hopeful scenario is can you get up two or three goals at some point and then bring her on for the last 15 minutes. And I think Michelle Cooper's stuff, like you said, is interesting because the center forward's in this pool
Starting point is 00:30:05 outside of Lindby and Dolo, who again has played on the wing. Like none of them are pure nines. And Michelle Cooper is no longer pure nine, but is that a role she can take? Or is her path to the national team being a backup at four positions or three positions across the front line, especially as you get tight on, you know, big tournament rosters and like where's flexibility and who can play across a bunch of different roles.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Either way, it's going to be really fun. Some new names to get involved, some big names returning as we know, and some meaningful games, which I think is always exciting for us to dig into. Let's talk a little NWSL now. The big news today in the NWSL side of things is the vote is open for the name of Denver NWSL, the 16th franchise in NWSL history. There are six names available as finalists. You can go on to the website and vote. Jordan, I think you might have more details than me. Yeah, the website is denvernwsl.com vote Jordan I think you might have more details than me. Yeah the website is denvernwsl.com backslash name and it's really exciting from from the jump this the ownership has been really
Starting point is 00:31:12 adamant about this launched as a community initiative with FDFC and the community has been so much a part of what we're doing for Denver what they're doing for Denver NWSL, and so they wanted to make sure the community had a voice in this. So there is a list of names that you can choose from, and right now it's Denver Gold FC, Colorado Summit FC, Colorado Fourteeners FC, Denver Elevate, Denver Peak, and Denver FC, which then you just go to that website, you can rank them all the way that you like to rank them, and there is also an option, Goss, which I like, is you can write in the name that you like. And so part of this process too is like there could be something really great that gets written in and maybe a lot of
Starting point is 00:32:01 people are writing in the same thing and that becomes the name of the team. So I like that there is not only, hey, here's what we're thinking, but we're also open to ideas. Do you have any ideas or do you like one of those? Does one of those stick out? What are you ranking number one? I texted you earlier. So for starters, I'm just saying this.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I'm not saying this to anyone associated to the organization. People can listen or not. Don't love the FC thing thing just putting that out there. I don't need it don't love it But I also named a thing soccer wise so I'm probably not the right person to ask in all of that I actually like a few of them 14ers you had brought up. I think when we first started I also do like that It's the one with Colorado in it like you have the Denver Broncos the Denver Nuggets. There is a lot of Denver Colorado is cool And I think as you've talked about with me like there is this culture of Colorado soccer players
Starting point is 00:32:53 The term we don't use is Denver soccer players, right? Like yeah, Lindsey Heaps and Sophia Willsons of the world are Colorado soccer players so I like connecting to that and for teeners is are Colorado soccer players, so I like connecting to that. And for teeners is unique and has a connection, I think, to a lot of people across it. Not that I will ever do one, because I'm not in shape for stuff like that, and I don't function at altitude like that,
Starting point is 00:33:15 unless there's a chairlift. Then if the chairlift takes me to the top and the work is getting down that I'm possible of. And in that sort of vein, I don't mind a Denver peak. I think it's different. There's a lot of things named after mountains or with mountain logos and all of that. And I've never heard that one. And I think you could do some pretty cool graphics and stuff around that. And then you get some good chance, like peak, peak, peak and all that type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yeah. Ooh, you're already thinking of chance. I go there first because I'm so musically talented as was stated in the opening of the show. True, right, I forgot, I forgot. My hands are basically playing piano at all times. I just can't stop. That's what you were typing on. I wish we could hear some of those notes you have been creating over there.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot I like and I think it's just, for me, I think it's cool. It's a part where the community feels like they are a big part of this. Because this is a big part of the process, is finding what the name of this team is going to be. I think also, I don't know if all of those will actually be Denver. I don't know. I don't know. I'm those will actually be Denver. I don't know. Like I don't know. I'm not
Starting point is 00:34:26 in that privy to that. But like if something sounds better as Colorado, do you go with that over Denver? And maybe that's something that we'll see in that slate that people can write, type in their names. And so there's some good options. But also I know people are super creative and might just think of something that we haven't thought of, which is just what we wanted to provide this opportunity where the community feels like they're really a part of it. There is some team in North America that did an open vote and it was the write-in option that ended up winning. I think it may have been the Seattle Sounders. I think they didn't put Sounders, which was the original name in there. I'm sure I'm wrong about that and someone will correct me soon, but I think that's what it was. And then it ended up being that that was the one that everyone was like, yeah, of course this is what we're going to pick. So group thinking come, however it does. And as you said, there's a lot of creativity out there. Either way, it's
Starting point is 00:35:23 exciting. It's the next step. It's the next stage. And it feels like it probably won't catch us as off guard as Boss Nation because there's a decent chance now that we already know what most of the options are that it won't go in that direction. But that's neither here nor there. In other news, so far this week before we dig in on our Portland Thorns, Ohani Hernandez has signed with Orlando, 24 year old right back coming over from Real Madrid,
Starting point is 00:35:49 World Cup champion. Not a bad piece to add for the reigning champions who are returning most of this team. It is also interesting that it comes in a week in which Emily Sams has signed an extension and Corey Dyke who finished the year playing right back for this team, signed an extension as well. So it who finished the year playing right back for this team, signed an extension as well.
Starting point is 00:36:06 So it feels like solidifying what was great last year and adding to it all at the same time. Orlando is continuing to impress in the way that they are resigning some of these players and how they've built in the additions that they're bringing in. And just someone with a different style, I think too, that there has been a lot of Portuguese-Brazilian
Starting point is 00:36:26 flair to this group. And now you're bringing in a Spanish player. I like it. I think it suits what Seb Hines is trying to do. And then with Corey Dyches, she was playing right back, but she also played left back. She played as a winger at times. She played in the midfield like this is a Swiss army knife of a player and she can play in a lot of different spots But also she's not gonna be afraid of that competition. I think we saw that last year in her Winning out that that spot rightfully So it'll be interesting to see how you put all these really good pieces together on the field if you're sub-hines and we'll get To see it before season starts in the Challenge Cup March March 7th. Yeah, yeah they are that first game. It will be I think fun to watch the progression of this club because I think last year we saw them grow as a team but in the end
Starting point is 00:37:20 they won a championship being a mid-block to lower block team a large portion of the time and this feels like one of those moves that Can start to take you to being like, oh we are possession dominator all the time and I think Bringing in Carson Pickett as well Yeah Could potentially like add to that and you are still potentially having to replace Adriana in the starting lineup who was sold because you got this outrageous deal that was an option and it was like a must take. And there's depth in this team, but you talk about now,
Starting point is 00:37:52 can Corey Dyke push into one of those positions or does she push someone else wide and come back into central midfield or does a picket or a bellow get pushed into the front line and then Dyke gets to start at left back. Just having those options is really, really big. And then having the potential to have a starter who can progress your style a little more
Starting point is 00:38:10 and take some of the pressure off the back line in those build-outs, because she's comfortable to come inside and get possession off the sideline and be sort of an outlet and an option as well. Feels really good. And you have to think it feels good for this team to get Sam's extended under that contract. Because as this goes along and there are some of the pieces of the spine that are a little bit
Starting point is 00:38:30 More senior it feels like Sam's is going to be the like long-term Her and Banda this is built around they're there for five seven years and some pieces come in and out But like they're the consistency and now they know that. Yeah. No really good points. Watch out. Orlando's still cooking. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't feel like we're going to get the drop off here.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I'm going to ask you this. We're going to go into our preseason stuff like as the weeks go along, but last year, what all for the top four seeds, only one of them had made the playoffs the year before it was Gotham who had like rebuilt and retooled. But basically the whole basically the whole league flipped where it was all of the teams that finished strong but outside the playoffs went on to win in Washington and Orlando and all of that.
Starting point is 00:39:13 That feels unlikely this year. It just feels unlikely that those teams take a step back like the teams did two years ago. But I feel like I would have said this 12 months ago as well. What I think is going to happen is because last year was an expansion year, I think it's going to get a lot tighter again, like it was two years ago, where the top to the bottom was 11 points and we were like, who is going to make the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:39:37 How is this possible? I think it's going to revert back to that again, because now you have players who have played in the league at starting positions for a whole year, and Utah is going to compete, Houston is going to compete. And this is going to be a lot tighter of a race. So I think it's going to revert back. But I think we're going to see it again with expansion. And I think that's going to be the rhythm for a little bit for at least the next two years. But I do think it's going to get
Starting point is 00:40:04 really tight again. I don't think a lot of teams are gonna fall off. I think Seattle is gonna be more competitive. I think those other two teams that I just mentioned where it just is gonna be a tight race. Yeah. One of the things that will also interest me as early in the year is I think Equalizer
Starting point is 00:40:22 has a really good article about this. Without the draft, the way things have happened. So I think Equalizer has a really good article about this without the draft the way things have happened So I think it's like 48 college players have signed professional contracts and at this time a year ago It was like five because in the draft it's like you got drafted You didn't know you were gonna go there. You got to pick up your life and move there You have to close out school you get into preseason and sometimes your contract's not done yet. I just wonder now if some of those players are ready to hit the ground running faster because they've had time to like pick the right spot, mentally get around it, establish, you know, get in contact with the coach, all those things.
Starting point is 00:40:59 And if that then deepens the player pool a little bit more in a way in which you probably have less of a floor and Therefore games are tighter and more competitive on top of what you said Which was you added 22 starting spots last year to a league that still had to fill that with the right talent and sort of Get everyone in the right place and I think in the movement we've seen in the offseason. It feels like a lot of Good player wrong club or bad role and now they've sort of of a good player, wrong club or bad role. And now they've sort of reassessed and shifted in and how that then affects things going forward. We will see some really cool coverage
Starting point is 00:41:31 of last season coming up in a moment as the For the Win Amazon documentary has put out a trailer. It's coming out four part series. A ton of it seems like behind the scenes content. A lot of sit downs. It looks like with all the big players from last year Marta included but like everyone who was heavily involved seems from the few clips
Starting point is 00:41:52 we've seen to have had those sort of sit downs and talk things through I believe it's the producers of the last dance um the Michael Jordan Bulls documentary so I'm pretty excited for this because I mean if you just give me high quality Cameras behind the scenes with a couple interviews like I'm already sold any doc This feels like a good year to have done it. You know I just watch an OJ doc. I'd rather watch You know for the win. You know I'd rather watch this then that but you know give me a good documentary Give me behind the scenes make me love these players And that's what this is gonna do is you're gonna,
Starting point is 00:42:25 now I think a lot of people who maybe aren't NWSL fans are gonna be like, how can I not be a Spirit fan with Trinity Rodman? How can I not like, I think Ali Schlegel is in it, like the Chicago Red Stars, because I like Ali Schlegel's personality and her story. You're gonna learn a lot more about players and it's gonna create bonds that I think,
Starting point is 00:42:44 that's one of the things we love about sports is knowing something about the player and you want them to succeed. And so I'm pumped for this. I really liked the trailer. Yeah, me too. And it feels like the right time of year as well to be like, oh, remember these great personalities?
Starting point is 00:42:59 Like you see them week in and week out. You hear the clips, the interviews, all that stuff. And you're like in the flow. And now in the off seasonseason everyone's kind of gone away and it feels like even just watching it you're like all right Tara McKeown crying because she didn't go to her sister's wedding but scored the goal in the sold-out crowd. I forgot about that or Denise O'Sullivan giving a team speech in North Carolina overcoming what they did last year and not having
Starting point is 00:43:21 Caroline and rebuilding and all that stuff. You're like okay now I'm sold again I'm back in. I'm ready to go so I agree with you I think it's gonna be awesome it's gonna be really fun to watch and we'll talk all about it here at soccer wise as it goes along last piece of news which takes us into our next topic which is that the Portland Thorns have signed a record jersey sponsorship deal with ring ring being the camera Security company. Yeah, the doorbell security doorbell. Thank you As a New Yorker now a person who lives in high-rise not really seen a doorbell in a while And I could not remember the name of that ring police. I said the end of a cell record
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yeah I'm open to it if anyone wants to the end of a cell previous record was last year, it was Bay. They signed a deal I believe with Souter Home and it was $2.6 million annually, $13 million over five years. This deal from Portland we know is breaking that record but we don't know how because the details have not come out yet so maybe it it's for the overall end size of the deal or maybe per year, whatever it is, that's really exciting and continues to be the growth of this club now
Starting point is 00:44:31 under new ownership and moving forward, which takes us into our Portland Thorns conversation. Last year was a down year. It was a down year on the field. It was a down year off the field. There has been a ton of turnover. The turnover in the front office we already know changing out. You know soccer coordinators Jeff Agus has been brought in which is
Starting point is 00:44:51 an interesting addition. Someone who hasn't worked in the women's game before but has a long history in major league soccer. Coming in with Lucy Rushton on his team who of course was partially or shortly the general manager of Bay FC and Gus McNabb who's worked in the Canadian side of things helped get Casey Stoney landed as the head coach in Canada and so that is the off-field stuff plus you have all of the developments in the business side and the release of the plans that they're going to build a new training facility which will be shared with the WNBA team that this ownership group has also been awarded, which will be the first
Starting point is 00:45:28 of its kind in North American sports to have that crossover in one facility. And then on the field, three of the biggest legends in NWSL history, for sure in Portland history have all stepped away at the same time. We celebrated Christine Sinclair last year because we knew it was happening. We didn't know Becky Sauer-Brown was going to be stepping away as well and then Megan Klingenberg leaving the team in her own right at the end of all of this. Those are three gaping holes to fill and it feels like the team's gone about it, Jordan, but it is like it's a tough test for this group in what we already thought would be a rebuild year.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yeah, it will be a tough test. One, you just can't replace a player like Christine Sinclair, but I do think what Christine Sinclair added to the team, I think they can fill in with different players and just play slightly differently, right? Because Sinclair was at the end of her career, you're playing her two front or you're playing her as the nine
Starting point is 00:46:29 and a little bit less mobile. I think now they can add some mobility to their front line. They can think, there's a question for me. Do they play a 3-5-2? Because Rob Gale played a 3-5-2 last year in the middle of season, but didn't really have a lot of time to work on it. So will we see a little bit of variety in what this team looks like when it comes to
Starting point is 00:46:50 how they line up? But one of the things that they're going to be happy about is, I think, health. Olivia Moultrie is still coming back, I think, from that injury and the surgery she had in the offseason. Hina Sagita will be available. So if those players are available in your midfield, you're already a little bit stronger, right? Then you can add players up front like Turner, Wilson, Weaver,
Starting point is 00:47:14 who are healthy. This is a strong team who I think really suffered last year because there were so many injuries that now if, which I don't know if they added a lot of depth to the that first starting group that they have now. Right. But if they're healthy they're looking pretty good. Yeah. They have added defensively as they had to because Becky Saravan retiring and Kelly Hubley leaving. So they've added Donny Ani, a Brazilian center back that we talked about from Flamengo when she signed as
Starting point is 00:47:51 well as Sam Hyatt, who I think is a starter in NWSL. And so I think it's a really nice pickup to sort of go and to her, I would assume the pitches and say like, here's a chance to come and prove that you deserve to be a game in and game out starter. It was not going to happen for you at your last club because of all the big names and all of that, chance to come and prove that you deserve to be a game in and game out starter. It was not gonna happen for you at your last club because of all the big names and all of that, but like come and do that.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And I think we've seen that work at that position. Bella Bixby coming back from maternity leave. So she will now upgrade things as well, potentially in goal. And they've signed a couple of college players as well. And a couple I think they feel are pretty talented, both defensively in Jayden Perry and then in of college players as well. And a couple I think they feel are pretty talented, both defensively in Jayden Perry and then in the midfield as well. The other name, which I have not mentioned yet,
Starting point is 00:48:32 and I don't know how it fits into all of this, is Dainia Castellanos, who didn't have the year she wanted with Bay. It seemed like it was acknowledgement from both parties. Like, let's just step away from this rather than try and find a trade or a transfer or rather play through it and then she ended up in Portland which was a bit of a surprise to me you talked about the different formation ideas how do you think she fits into all of this is she a
Starting point is 00:48:58 locked-in starter from day one I don't think she's locked in starter from day one the issue of Dana Castellanos in this league from what I saw last year is she's gonna have to have a more disciplined defensive work rate in order to be productive in this league and You you don't really like other leagues in the world if you're a ten You have a little freedom in the way that you're defending.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Because a lot of the times you're not playing teams that are really challenging you that much defensively. In this league, every single team will hurt you. Houston beat Bay last year and Houston had a really difficult season. So can Dana Castellanos fill in a role where the expectations are the same on the offense as they are on the defensive side.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I think her speed of play needs to be a little bit more, but when she is on, she can be a brilliant player on the ball in the way that she can navigate tight spaces, the way that she can connect the midfield to the front line. So if they're playing in a different formation, could she be one of the two up top, right? Could you play her as a set of two up top where her and Sophia Smith are together and Castellanos more drops off and Smith is finding the little channel to run into created from that deception with the defender, that little space the defender makes when they drop off. I just think that also these other players within this Portland
Starting point is 00:50:27 team make you think, okay, they could look really good in a 3-5-2 or even a 3-4-3 with Kofi and Segeeta as the two. Because they have Reyes and Muller who, yes, they're good outside backs, but they're good in the attack. So could you get more from them? Centrally, you have Dianne, Hyatt, and O'Basey, who O'Base was good, I think it's O'Base, O'Base was good last year in that center back position. So you have those three to work with.
Starting point is 00:50:59 If that doesn't work out, you can slide Reyes into one of those three and she can be a little bit more narrow attacker from that outside left position. And then maybe you put Morgan Weaver as a wingback. Well, that's what I was going to say. Yeah. Morgan Weaver as a wingback being able to cover, yeah, cover that full cover the ground,
Starting point is 00:51:17 crash at the far post as a goal scorer. Because I wonder if you do go- And space in front of her to run and like go 1v1, right? Just some of the, one of the things she's really good at. That girl thrives in 1v1. She licks her chops. I want to go at you 1v1 because I'm going to beat you. And I love that about her.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah. But I do wonder if you go in that setup and you don't have her playing his wing back. Do you lose a lot of that because whether it's a two up front or whatever it is, she will probably be coming from central areas more often. You also made the trade for Spanstra and gave her the contract. So like that's another wide player that you've already sort of built into your team.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Maybe we see a little bit more of both. Like we are not always gonna see, I feel like in NWSL we see a lot more of like teams play this way. And as they get more sophisticated, we might see different formations or different utilization of players. Maybe you start in the same formation,
Starting point is 00:52:12 but it morphs during the game. And I think just from what we saw from Rob Gale last year in his interim tag, he isn't afraid to ask different things from players. And now you have a full preseason to work on these things. I'm just curious, it clearly works in a 4-3-3 and it's going to work with those players, but is there a wrinkle they can add in and be able to utilize some of the depth that
Starting point is 00:52:35 they brought in in center back and defender and those areas? Yeah, there's a lot of different options for this group because I do think the flip side would be, I think Sam Coffey is probably in a class of her own and her ability to cover ground and dominate in central midfield. And so if you add more numbers in there, it's not that you won't be good in central midfield,
Starting point is 00:53:00 but do you take away an advantage you have, which is, well, we have this person who can do two roles at once and then push two a little higher and I think the hope would be for stretches of this year it's probably Jesse Fleming as the second center mid because maybe it's Casalano says the 10 above him or two forwards above them and then Fleming feels better stepping forward or Moultrie gets healthy and can start in that role as well And then it's a Gita. I think Sagita stands You think Sagita is the starter out the gate and do you think Fleming's the start at the ten or Fleming's not a starter?
Starting point is 00:53:35 I think it depends on it what Moultrie where Moultrie's at right? Yeah, which is where the Castellanos Edition was odd to me at this club because it feels like a position that's a little log-in and I do wonder if the convo for them is a False nine or a second phone and if it's a false nine, is it like Sophia Wilson starts on the wing? You know that she's going to be central so often someone floating out of that space someone coming back in and that's sort of the Optionality that you have it feels odd to me to think that Castellanos would have left Bay and had the chance to talk to a bunch of teams and not found one
Starting point is 00:54:12 where she would not be guaranteed minutes, but sort of had it explained, like, here's a space for you to be a starter early on and where you fit in. And so there's a lot of question marks with this, Lauren's theme. I think even with the loss of some legends and what's happened, it feels more cohesive right now.
Starting point is 00:54:30 And it does feel like they've made the attempt to fill the holes that they had last year. And then you're always gonna have the limitation of like, these are the stars we've landed on. If they're injured, there's nothing we can do about it. There's no team in NWSL that's going to really be able to cover for missing Sophia Wilson for half the year for a national team and injury and all that type of stuff. And not having an Olympics is probably a help for this team with some of the talent they lost and now sort of having consistency throughout and having them
Starting point is 00:55:01 for the full season and fingers crossed the Chelsea rumors around Sam Coffey are not real because that would be very unfortunate I think both for the team the league and for all of us as a fan there's a lot to like about this team I'm excited to see Moultrie if she's healthy this year I think she took steps last year I think when on the field she looked more consistent and so now it's physically can she get out there because if she can it feels like she is Ready to carry an attack Probably we talked about Ali sentin or probably not at that level yet But you don't need to like that shouldn't be the case and this feels like a really good setup for her to sort of show
Starting point is 00:55:38 What she can do at her best. I agree. I think this this will be a big year for Moultrie I agree. I think this will be a big year for Moultrie because we saw a lot of really good glimpses of how effective she can be last year. And we knew that, right? She's been she's just been young and she's been growing at a really nice pace, I think. But to me, what we saw from her last year, her ability to have for the final pass, have a really good final pass to pick and choose when she's gonna call her own number and take a shot and try to beat a defender at the top of the box. I think her decision making has elevated.
Starting point is 00:56:14 It is making me feel like this is gonna be a breakout year for Olivia Moultrie. With a caveat, I think it depends on who's around her and the health of the players around her because she cannot Nor should she? How old is she now 19 19? She'll play this full season as a yeah Nor should she shouldn't have to carry the team
Starting point is 00:56:36 right, so if there's players around her if You know weaver is now healthy for the full season Wilson is healthy for the full season. Wilson is healthy for the full season. When you have players like that, it's so much easier to stay in your lane and to be really elite instead of feeling like you have to cover and carry so much weight all the time. So I'm very, I'm really looking forward to watching her this year and seeing how she can progress and yeah, what the next step in her career is. Yeah, that final pass last year was impressive to watch her timing, the way she sucks defenders we can progress in what the next step in her career is. Yeah, that final pass last year was impressive to watch.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Her timing, the way she sucks defenders in, was able to slide that ball through. But then there wasn't a lot of time when she was on the field where it felt like she was too easy to play against, right? Your idea is like, well, an 18-year-old in central midfield, the other team's gonna boss that area and there's not gonna be counter pressing
Starting point is 00:57:23 and it's gonna be too easy to play through It didn't feel that way It felt like she took huge steps when she was on the field now It's just about getting on the field consistently and as you said having Weaver for a full year Is a massive ad for a number of ten who's looking for weapons to play off of and looking for someone Like let me hang it over here and go run after it like hello There's yeah, there's always an outlet and there's always an option and railing to do things like that who has that same Get behind the the front the back line attitude. So I do think she has good outlets
Starting point is 00:57:52 It's can they all find? cohesion Yep Pacific Northwest has been the center of the league for long stretches so far We were gonna do both teams, but it didn't feel like we had enough time to dig into both of them. So we'll talk Seattle a little bit more probably next week. They are two teams in very similar situations, changes of ownership,
Starting point is 00:58:14 which I think has thrown off a few transfer windows, some legends leaving. For Seattle, there's obviously more consistency from the coaching soccer structure down than there is in Portland But they're both sort of I think trying to readjust to the next end of yourself and the changes in the league the way San Diego and a Washington has pushed things and and what Orlando has been able to follow up and do so far in Kansas City I think now we're gonna see where the Pacific Northwest falls and all of this and And it's exciting. We are not that far away from the season.
Starting point is 00:58:45 We've got Chiba Leaves Cup around the corner. I've already made Jordan nervous with this one. So I will leave it at that. Thank you to all of you for listening. Thank you to all of you for watching live. And we'll continue on here covering all things NWSL heading into the season. We've got MLS coverage as well. US women's national team, US men's national team, Canada, and everything else in between.
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