Soder - 124: Scorsese TikToks with Eddie Pepitone | Soder Podcast | EP 122

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

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I love you. Enjoy the podcast. I'm sorry if I interrupt. I promise I'm trying to work on it. I just get so excited. First time I got to like really watch you do a set was at the old creek in the cave on like a Wednesday night for like maybe 12 people

on this show Rebecca Trent used to produce called Monsters. I think so. And you just talked about the Pulaski Bridge for 15 minutes. It was one of my favorite sets I've ever seen in my life. Yes. And now I know what the Pulaski Bridge is I used to cross that bridge all the time And I was always like,

It's the bridge that goes between Queens and Brooklyn And you were like, this is where comedy lives At the foot of the Pulaski Bridge. Well, you know what it's like. It's like when you're up there, you're like trying to find that vein Yeah.

Of something that inspires you to be funny. And I think that night, I just loved the name Pulaski and that bridge, I had never been to that, to Rebecca's place over there. And that bridge is so kind of ominous. It's right across the street. It's this huge steel structure.

And it also isn't sexy like a lot of the bridges in New York. Brooklyn, Manhattan. You have all the Williamsburg Bridge. They have all this like, Pulaski Bridge is like, this is very necessary. So you don't get, it's a very like inner borough

bridge where it's you almost don't even realize you're going queens to Brooklyn and then you're like oh yeah I guess I did just cross over how did we just go into Queens I don't know I don't know it looks all the same you grew up in Brooklyn yeah I grew up in Brooklyn uh till I was nine I I grew up in Brooklyn enough to get traumatized by by different things well what I mean crime or what traumatized you. A little bit of crime. Yeah. You know, I was, I was threatened as a child. My parents would do that. My parents threatened me. See, you can take the New York energy anywhere. I could go. You can be, I was, I was raised in Brooklyn, but my parents brought the Brooklyn energy to Iowa, and they told me they would cut my feet off if I talk to the cops. Did you see any, I'm thinking of this because I was

watching last night. Did you see any of the Scorsese documentary yet? No. It's on Apple TV. What's screwing me up about Scorsesey right now? Yeah. He's doing, his daughter is doing social media content with him. And it feels like when they made, do you know at the end where they,

where they made Jake LaMotta perform or what they're doing right now with- Enraging Bull? No, but at the end where he would do those live shows and he was doing like, he was doing comedy. Oh, no, don't tell me. It seems like that. That's what it feels like. I don't really know.

if Marty knows what's going on. We're doing an internet trend and he'll be like, and his daughter's way younger than him, you know, because he had a, hey at her as an old dad. Oh, man. This, you know, these big guys who try to take their family along.

You're making me feel crazy. Just say it's nepotism. And then I'll get over it faster. I'll go, hey, it's nice to be born into a family. Like the Vanderbiltz or the fucking Rockefellers weren't going, it's not nepotism. My son's ticking over the, company because he did very well.

Look, Standard Oil would have went to someone just like him, my son. I wasn't going to give it to a Rockefeller. It just happens to be the same last name. We took a lot of applications. And my son, John Jr., just happened to be the best fitted. Yeah. It's, that's the part that I don't, that's the disconnect between famous people and reality where you go, just admit it. And then we can get over it.

It was like when Liberace came out. Don't talk to me about Liberace. It was funny. My grandma thought Liberace was straight until like the 80s. Of course. You know what I mean? I recently watched again, good night and good luck. Oh, yeah, Edward Aramuro.

Yeah, with Edwin Aramorrow. And he interviewed Liberace and he was like, Ed, I, he goes something, the question was something like, are you thinking of settling down getting married? Yeah. He was like, Ed, maybe I'm too much of a perfectionist, but I'm just looking for the right woman. Yeah, and you go, sure. A woman that's a man.

It was the, it's the same with like Clark Gable used to live with this other Hollywood star, and it was clear that they were gay and in love. And you look at their pictures. And it just recently came up on the internet that I saw in this subreddit old school cool, they show pictures of like old stuff. And it was a magazine spread. it was like, join Clark Gable, and I forget who the other guy is, as they show you their bachelor pad.

And they're like, at the pool sunning. And they're like, they're sunning. Look, they play chess. Oh, they have a dog together. It's like, they're a gay couple. Yeah. And then they were like, and then people in the comments were like, it's actually a very sad story. Like, they were in love.

Yeah. And the studio was like, hey, you cannot be seen with him. Right. And that's when it's sad, but you're like, it fooled people. Absolutely. People weren't. that's savvy unless you were a jazz musician back then. There he goes, baby, they suck in each other.

Yeah, right. That's what it is. Honey, I'm going to tell you right now, they play each other like trombone. And they're like, oh, stop it. Would you leave me alone, stray cat Allen? Or they have a jazz name? They always knew what was happening, the jazz guys. Why was that?

Was it because they were just out performing in nightclubs? I think so. And they were smoking weed and... Like, they were the fringe of society. I don't really know, Dan. I just threw that out there. I didn't know I was going to get grilled on lick. I don't know.

Why is it with the jazz people? This is what you get for talking to somebody that's a lifetime pothead is you get lifetime pothead questions where you go, why is that? I'm never thought about that. But yeah, I mean, those like Liberace coming out, I almost want to do research on it because it's like, He did come out.

Can you look that up? I want to see if Liberace actually was like, by the way, I'm gay. All these candelabras are for a reason. I like to see. I like to light pussy. He came out on Theo Voins podcast, right? That's what it was. He was like, man, that makes a lot of sense.

You're fucking, man, I have a friend named straight Liberace. He just wears a lot of diamonds. Liberace never officially came out as gay. Publicly denied his homosexuality until he died of AIDS-related pneumonia in February of 87. Man, AIDS was like, if you guys aren't going to say it, I'm going to say it.

AIDS, that's what AIDS did in the 80s. Hell yes. Two of me motherfuckers are keeping a secret. Yeah, yeah. AIDS was like the great liberator. Well, my family's from San Francisco and they would almost talk about it like an army invaded.

Like a what? Like an army invaded San Francisco where they'd be like, well then 80s, you know, in the 80s with AIDS. And you were like, well, yeah, you guys had so many bathhouses. There's probably the bathhouses. The bathhouse industry took a beating. It did. Because of AIDS.

It did. Yeah, I never got to the bath houses. Yeah. Like I still have friends who tell me, not kidding, who tell me to go to a Turkish bath. Oh, the Russian bath. Yeah. They say it, you know, it's great. like it gets all the toxins.

You go, I'm not trying to sleep with you. I'm not trying to play with your penis. You get the fuck out of my face with that. And they go, all right. It's funny as if you do take that stance, you just look incredibly homophobic. We're like, I'm not going to a bathhouse. Like, it's a soak, your skin.

It's a, they call it a soak. Yeah. They have one word descriptions of it. But you said you grew up in Brooklyn until you were nine and you were heavily traumatized. You know, yeah. I mean, I'm thinking of the Scorsese thing because he, I kind of understand him now. I've watched three episodes of this doc.

And I always was like a little critical because I'm an asshole of Scorsese being so violent. Like just incredible violence. And then I have to watch on this shit. He witnessed it. Oh, really? Yeah. And his, you know, the neighborhood he grew up in, he grew up in Mott and Mulberry. had a he had an uncle who was in the mob like it was right there in his face you know he grew up

with tough kids yeah you know he was an asthmatic who which by the way back then good not good you thought you were defective yes like I grew up in the 80s in 90s and if you had an inhaler then everyone was like what the fuck is wrong with you you're asthmatic but imagine in this 50s and 60s. Oh my God. Growing up and people are like, Marty can't breathe. And he's like, please stop killing people in front of me. So what he did because he really couldn't go out much because of his condition,

he would just look through his window and he had a bunch of windows and they were saying it was like frames in a film. Holy shit. So he was just groomed because of his. Asma. Spike Lee was interviewed. He said, thank God for asthma. We got one of the best filmmakers ever. But that's always the thing with, I was obsessed with biographies for a long time,

because you always see like a through line of something where you go, oh, it was their weakness, and then they made it their strength. It's like Scorsese trapped inside, but then we get Goodfellas, Raging Bull. We get casino because you watched all that shit. Exactly. Watch that shit. And I know it, too, from. from just having great fear locked up in me.

And comedy is such a great way to get it out, I think. I don't know about you, but chrysartic, it's a cathartic thing sometimes. When you say something that you think only you feel and you feel insecure for feeling it, and the first time you say it in a joke and more than one person laughs, you go like, yeah.

Holy shit, all right. Maybe I'm not completely alone in this. Oh, exactly. And yeah, that's always the thing I've always loved about comedy. Absolutely. Oh, I can talk about something that used to traumatize me and now I can make fun of it. And people go like, great. Actually, I realize that that's the deal.

Like, if you could really be honest about your shit, then people like, oh, thanks, man. Like, I get a lot of thanks, man. You really helped me through the pandemic. I'm like, really? Well, because you do, what I love about it, you is you call you. come in with this energy of like, I, like, I can relate to feeling it, even if I don't express it. I mean, the way your last special starts with just the Apple Watch is, like, oh, yeah, yeah, where you just like immediately go into it and you're like, what kind of fucking data do you want

from me? Like, I am falling. I did fall. I'm falling emotionally. I'm falling. Yeah, yeah. It's not a fall. It's one long descent into hell.

That's right. Yeah, exactly. And that's what I think is like, it's, it's, when, when someone says that you can feel anxiety and not know that you're feeling it and then someone can say something that you go that is what i'm feeling i feel fucking crazy right now especially them monitoring everything everything now is like going off the rails dude yeah this is why i was saying you know it was a joke that i i did but i don't really know if i'm going to keep doing it on stage but i was like i for the first time of my life identify with people who are anti-trans because a lot of these anti-transes because a lot of these anti-trans

people are like, don't give kids chemicals. You shouldn't let, and I, you know, I'm a pretty compassionate person where I go, I think they should let their lives. But the reason I feel that way is because they're starting to give fat kids Ozzympic. And I go, don't do that. We need our fat kids. We need our funny people. You're, you're, the pharmaceutical industry is going to take away our charming, sweet,

and funny people. You need fat kids. Or we need our, another angle. is we need our scapegoats. We need certain people to be fat so we can feel better about our cell. Exactly. That's something.

Also, I've always wanted to put chocolate ice cream in a Klondike bar, but maybe it was a fat person that was brave enough. Maybe he's a, you know, a former fat teenager. Let's, let kids, and granted, I wasn't fat as a teenager,

but I did have an abnormally large head in a very skinny body. So it was a different thing. I wouldn't want head shaving, surgery, let these big domed kids know what it feels like to not find a fitted hat. I didn't know they're giving kids. You're starting to give them that like weight loss thing. There's like it always starts with the rich people, but then it trickles down because rich

people do it and then middle class people or what was the middle class people now go like, well, I got to do that for my kid. And honestly, insecurities, I don't think when you're a teenager, you realize that insecurities become your superpower when you're older. just like Martin, like what you were saying with Martin Scorsese. He's like, he's like inside can't breathe. And now this guy is still making great movies for five decades, for four decades. Yeah.

What was his last one? It was before, after the Irishman, he did. Oh, the Irishman. Fire Killers in the Fire Moon. Really good. See what I mean? Like, good for asthma. Exactly.

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dot com forward slash soda rules and restrictions may apply yeah but you're saying that he's now looking a little old with his daughter doing this he's trying to do modern things he's trying to do tic talks and stuff there there should be somebody should do parodies of old celebrities doing tic tics with their daughter and like they're they have complete dementia and their daughters are are like, what's that? See, they're like making him like, this is him with his daughter doing a trend. He just looks bothered by the camera.

He's not even rapping. What the hell is she in? A Kool-Aid costume in his office. Oh, man. That's what I mean. And you watch it. And he just looks bothered at the beginning. He should.

What are you doing? He, yeah. Why are you filming me? I don't know. I could see him be an interview. My daughter is, you know, They, it's so funny how De Niro and him talking shorthand, like the Italian thing where they don't say much, you know, because, you know, enough said.

You know, he's like, I don't know what my daughter is. No, just going for the right. I didn't like the way, I don't like the way his daughter shot that. Marty wouldn't have shot. I like that. I'm just saying. No. They bring in De Niro and all them to interview about the movies and they ends up talking about her TikTok the whole time.

She doesn't have a lot of followers. You know, not a good look. I myself thought about getting into TikTok. I wish I could do De Niro's. I got a baby. About five years, I'm not going to know where I am. I got a... Does he have a baby?

He just had a baby at 80 years. Him and Pacino. Pacino had a baby at like 80? Yes. And I know it's talked about, but it's like, what are you doing? I had a bit where I was like, I was like, you know what kind of father, Pacino is? Like, he's at home going, get this.

fucking thing off my fucking foot. He doesn't understand what the fuck it is. Right. He's like, he's just too old to deal. I'm wondering, why is there a little child grabbing my leg? I need to know what this is. It's not a human. It doesn't eat solid foods.

Great. So now I'm in parenthood. Yeah. He, I, you almost wonder if he was, tricked into coming in that woman. She was like, this is part of the massage, Mr. Pacino. Now I lay on you. Is it someone he's been with for a long time?

It's Barbara Walter's kid. 82 years old. That's so funny. She was 29. And he was 82. Well, that's the life style. He looks good, Pacino. God, damn.

Don't agree with you. He always looks like he just took goggles on his face. Oh, my God. I didn't know. Wow. He looks like he was watching Oppenheimer, like the, like he was in the desert,

watching the explosion. He goes, that's going to kill a lot of Japanese people. Yeah, I think it's powerful. Yeah. Oh, we're going to blow up a lot of jrots. That was Oppenheim. I'm sorry.

I think we have to go with Celian Murphy. He's just a little more. I want to play Oppenheim, huh? Whoa. That ball. That's a big bomb. I love that we're doing Oppenheimer and De Niro, these old school in Persis. Yeah, Gen Z gets it.

But I do think that should be a new form of elder abuse. Is social media clips when they don't know what they're doing? Trends that they don't know. Yeah, and force, yeah, I guess it would be forcing that. Because they are forcing them. Really? There's no way Martin Scorsese was like, hey, did you see the four non-blonde? Nicky Minaj thing where it's half for it on blondes and then you wrap Nikki.

Can we do that? You know how... Honey, honey, let's do the Nicki Minaj. I'm going to set this up. I need nine hours to set up the shot. He's just continuously filming. She's like, we did it. Oh, no.

You found another thing that upset you. Is this another Scorsese? Yes. Yes. The kid, you would think the kid would be better looking. just because, no, I mean it, just because he's a big celebrity, you would think they're, they get, they get raised in an environment where they would be. Expensive lotions.

Yes, lotions. They go to, they go to the parts of the world where the sun doesn't give you cancer. Yes. Like St. Barth? Am I had a line to say that? No, not at all. Can I, can I be honest? And I know this is probably going to be a popular opinion, but I thought a very similar thing

when I saw it for the first time I went, wolf. like Marty Marty you're going to have a kid old Better be a hot kid Yes Come on what are you doing Not a hot Just like kind of like

Yeah Also it is It's never the celebrity That wants to do the trend And then it just makes me think like Your daughter's just holding you up Your daughter's just making you do this This is elder abuse

Yes Maybe if you would have abused your kid more They wouldn't have You know I don't know I'm just trying to get back ears. Oh, that's really unpopular. I didn't know this was the unpopular podcast.

I'm saying all the stuff that everyone's afraid to say. My manager, like, Eddie, we've had some problems with the soda podcast. We have to have it pulled. He got you to do a TikTok trend where it's very big in the Charlie Kirk community. Oh, God. You got Eddie Pepitone to walk right into that. Oh, God. So do you have a kid?

No. Okay, good. No. Because I do this thing where I go, do you believe people are still having children? It's crazy. Has anybody glanced at a newspaper? It's crazy.

Or just looked around? Also, have you ever, have you felt the weather? Yes. We're getting days in the summer that are 112 in places. Yes. And it snows like it's fucking day after tomorrow. There we go, like, and then we go, oh, well. This is a good time to have a child.

the people that go, it's called global warming, I thought. And then they're having kids and you go, you're going to, that apocalypse. Don't people have a lot of kids. Yeah. It's going to be a nuisance for the apocalypse. Oh, God. Yeah.

Because you're going to have to kill your kids. Totally. Not me. Totally. They're going to have to be used for fuel like children. Yeah. And at best case scenario, you're giving up the youngest one for adrenachromes for the leader, you know,

so they can. know what that means, but it sounds good. What's an adrenachrome? It's a fake theory that the Illuminati, they said like the Clintons and all them, would scare kids and then drink this fluid out of their brain that gave, and you go, that's so made up that it's just fun to reference.

By the way, what has happened to our world and do you think there'll be a civil war? Possibly. It sure seems like it's going in that direction. I think the way we get out of this is what Colin, Quinn said. What do he say? He said we either sell the United States as he, as he says, knock down the Rockies, do an open concept.

Which is one of my favorite lines. I love him. But he also was like, he made a great point in his special red state, blue state where he said the difference, I'm going to fuck up this. But the difference between Minnesota and Florida, think about culturally how different those twos are. It's the difference between like Germany and Italy where he's like, it's the same distance. and those are two completely different countries with different histories. Oh, yeah. He's like, maybe we just split up.

Maybe we bake, you know, in the special he goes, 250 years, that's a good run for a band. You break up. You break up and maybe we, I don't know. I think it's going to shift to, I think the internet is doing more harm than good. Yeah, I think so too. As we just talked about Martin Scorsese,

one of the greatest artistic minds of our. Right, getting it, getting, I'm having a little TikTok. There was an article today that TikTok settled. Did you see this settled a lawsuit about being addictive? And they admitted they, I don't know, certain ways they market it or something. Well, they do it like the same way that people get addicted to slot machines. Where every time they pull it, there was a 60 minutes piece like 15 years ago about this where they said, yeah, it was like around 2011, 2011,

in 2012 they did a piece where they were like the guy you was a former programmer for facebook this is when facebook was still the rage and he was like no we it's a targeted dopamine hits where yeah yeah that's been going on where they go like if you keep going then we'll give you something that will create a reaction out of you so then you want to keep going so that's what it is and this was a while ago dopamine nation oh yeah that's a i mean that's they found out a way to just like get us to be lab rats and touch the button. Absolutely. I lately,

I just like Instagram. I don't know why. I don't do TikTok. See, I stopped with Instagram. You did? There was a thing about it. They might have to.

Bumming me out. No, I still post on it and I still will look at it. But it became, it lost being my primary thing. I like Reddit because Reddit's really good for. Are you serious? Yeah,

but I don't go to the comedy shit. I go to like sports or movies. movies or like entertainment and then you go now granted you can get lost down wormholes in that because oh absolutely very but like my negative experience with reddit was going on and looking at comedy shit because i love comedy shit and then i would see stuff that would just make me i don't go to any of my friends subreddits i don't go to any i don't i keep it impersonal i want it like my if you look at my feed it's all like sports movies wrestling and then like ran Dogs.

A lot of dog stuff. Of dog stuff. But now the algorithm grabbed me. All they're putting up now on Reddit and my algorithm feed is dogs that are dying. Like final posts. And I went, I had to mute it. I had to mute picks of dogs. I'm sorry, R slash picks of dogs.

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slash soda that's better help.com slash soda the show is sponsored by better help i i watched a video where a dog had they they now selling very little guns to dogs and he had a gun to his head and the voiceover was like if he doesn't get something he soon he's going to blow his brains off up no out out i would love the commercial of you and then you walking down the kennel going to camera hi i'm eddie pepetone dog suicide is a very real guns i have a bit where i do you know about the the pentagon of course has done this robotic dogs oh you're talking about boston dynamics i think so yeah yeah they're Oh, you're on top of that.

I'm very afraid of them. Oh, my God. The way they move, like the road. Oh, my God. Weep, weep. Weep. Yes. No, no, no, no.

So, of course, they're contracted out by the military. And the LAPD used them in a hostage. You know this, Mike. But I have this bit where I go, you know, these robotic dogs. First of all, thank you, Pentagon for making my favorite thing in the fucking world into a dystopian nightmare. But secondly, I'm still worried about him because I'm worried about the strays,

the stray robotics. I mean, once the software is upgraded, there's going to be all these strays roaming around and they can, you know, they're nimble, yes, and they can move 150 miles an hour, and yes, they're weaponized. But I could see someone like this is the bit, Sally Struthers, someone like Sally Struthers,

saying, these dogs need to be loved too, even though they don't have any emotions. And the dog is just climbing up and down a skyscraper behind her. These dogs have nowhere to be plugged in at night. Oh, I'm going to take that. Help find a place for them to port. Yeah, it is the second that they were going like, look at this. Because I liked him at first when I went, whoa, look at that robots walking by itself.

And then they start doing stuff where they go, I pushed it over. And it got back up. And you go, don't push it. Don't push it. It's going to remember that. It's going to remember that. I see them kickboxing now or whatever, and it's like, no. And the part that upsets me is watching humans be excited for it because you go,

you don't see any problem. They announced in the news that they were going to introduce grok into the Pentagon. What is grok? It's AI. It's Elon Musk's AI that he uses on Twitter. Oh, really? Yeah. What does it do?

It breaks all the time because people fuck with it and he's had to reprogram it. But what does it do? Just answer things and put out things. Yeah. Is it interesting? No. No. Just like Elon.

It's just uninteresting. And I really, I've been trying to drive this point home, but I think where we messed up in the American experience was not checking in with rich people. What do you mean? They run everything. I know. That's the problem. That's the problem. Oh, I see.

My mom, when I was growing up, I was raised by a single mom. And I remember any time we found out someone had money, my mom would go, they're doing fine. They'll figure it out. When they have money. Like if we found out, like, oh, you know, actually, like his dad is rich. And my mom would go, then they're fine. They'll figure it out. It should always go, they can throw money at it.

That's what she would say. They can throw money at it. Their problems are solvable. And I think too many of us, said that. So now there's all these wealthy people that are broken inside. Oh, completely.

And no one's ever gone to Elon like, are you okay, buddy? And maybe just one of those and he'd go, I don't know. I don't know. I want to go to space because I can't live here and no one likes me.

And then everyone's like, leave Elon alone. He's got so much money. And you go, I'm genuinely just trying to make sure he's all right. No one checks in on him. They're always going, you're so smart how are we getting to mars how we do you know no one ever just goes like do you have a bad day

yeah he's like i did the robot the dog robots don't help they're not just caught me i had an idea for a show i'm i think i'm going to call it uh the billionaire rehabilitation center yes and it just focuses around a rehab for billionaires where they try to make them empathy yeah empathetic My friend did rehab. I've had a bunch of friends in rehab. And one of the things they do is sometimes they'll take you out to a field and pet a horse. So that you can,

I'm serious. Dan St. Germain had a fantastic bit about this. Oh, yeah. He's like, he goes, that's how you know.

He's like, damn, I fucked up. If you're in a field, if you're in a field just petting a horse. If you're just in a field petting a horse. But that's what we would need is like just a billionaire to sit there with like a cleaning lady. And she's like,

I have kids and he's like, whoa. And your kids, I love them. You know, like rehab them into being humans again. Yeah. Because it's the, it's the,

it's, they're fortified by yes men. Yes. They're fortified by people. But they want that and they build that and they can't deal. Yeah. With, you see,

Elon, I mean, Elon must have got slapped into reality a little with the dough shit because there was so much pushback on that shit. But I think, I feel like guys like that when they get pushback like that, they double down. That's true. Because that's always been their way out of it.

That's true. When you look at like all of his business dealings and you go, well, he gets put in these situations where people go, you're fucked. And he goes, I'm just going to double down. And then it works. And then he gets out of it. So he never has to go like, oh, was I being a dick bug there? It'd be funny if he had one, like for some reason, he's got one blue collar friend in his life,

like a cabby in Brooklyn going. and he vites him over this shit and he's like Elon, why are there so many fucking robots? Yeah. Why don't you get a real woman to blow you? He goes, Dominic. I would love to help you.

But you're asking too many difficult questions. I don't know. Why aren't you more like Joe Rogan and just say yes? Like, billionaires, they should have a blue collar friend. They should have, if Bezos had a friend that was like a pipe fitter in the pipe fitter union, Yes. You know, and Bezos would be like with his weird walk guy,

and he's all on steroids now. And he'd be like, hey, my warehouse, my warehouse employees are mad because they're going to try to unionize. And one guy goes, I love unions. Yes, exactly. He goes, Mark, he goes, Jeff, Jeffrey, what you don't understand is this house was bought by you. Exactly. I pay my membership fees.

I got fucking friends. We go out, we hang out. Yeah, yeah. And Bezos ignores it and goes, here, look, look, I got a, new fucking thing. It's it's the size of an insect and it surveils everything in 300,000 miles. Isn't that cool, Dominic? And he goes, you're creeping me to fuck out.

No, it's not cool, you fucking idiot. He smacks him. Get the fuck out. That's what they need. They need a friend that doesn't want things from them. Because you've been in this business a long time and I've been in it over 20 years and you see people change because they get famous. I saw this in an interview one time

I forgot who said it I think it was Kendrick Lamar It was like The difference fame is You don't change It's the people around you change Interesting And they go like

Well you got a lot of stuff now Can I have some of that stuff? Yes And then they go If I say yes He gives me more stuff Yes Yep people want things

You know And I'm at a low level of that And they're like Hey can you You know It's like very subtle Like the smart people like subtle about it but I I know what's going on you go don't far have you ever had to confront someone

about that no I've ever had to go like I know play me like yeah how long have you been in L.A. Oh God dude uh 23 years okay so you've watched it go like you know every trick in the L.A. book oh yeah you've seen it's brutal L.A. Have you seen people this is the L.A. thing that's why you're from here uh no I grew up in Colorado but you're Yeah, but I started stand up in Tucson for two years and then I moved here. So I've been here for over 20 years. Oh, you've been here for over 20 years. Yeah.

I never liked L.A. because the ability of people who at first treat you like, I don't know, this guy is, this guy doesn't have anything for me. Then they find out you have something and you watch him go like. Yeah. There he is. There's my guy. I have sat at a party like. kind of a high level party of celebs.

Just so painful, celebs around a table, you know, and I'm there and I'm not, I don't rate to be in that. And you're just like, fuck. Yeah.

Watching a move. LA was the first place I ever had someone, I saw someone look through me. Where I was like, oh, they are not, they're not talking to me right now. They're like, Oh, that's crazy.

Yeah. And then they'd see someone and they go, it's great seeing. And you're like, yeah. Remember the first time that happened to me, I was like angry. I was like, what a fucking shitty dude? I'm still angry. Yeah. Why am I there 23 years?

I don't know. Do you like living there? Partly, but not anymore. I'll tell you, it's, you know, speaking of the eco side that we're going through. I mean, last January, not this January, but last January, I was getting evacuated. notices. I had my cat, both of them senior, a cat and my dog, Charlotte, my wife, and we're like ready to evacuate. At some point, you, I don't know, you remember the LA fire? At some point you saw it, oh, we're going to die in a fire. I mean, the way that it happened, too, from us watching it

from the East Coast was like, it all got lit up fast. Really fast. I remember Tim Dillon like posted something where he was showing the fire come up to his balcony and you're like, oh, Jesus Christ. Dylan is hilarious because he was also in Austin when they had that freeze out. I think he had just moved there. He goes, here's what's going to happen. I'm going to shut down your grid and there's nothing you can do.

I love it. They go in, they go, Tim, you're the perfect man to shut down Los Angeles. Set a fire. Off and the flames. But I remember texting him and be like, dude, get out of here. And he was like, dude, it happened so far. He got out of there. He was in Palm Springs when I finally found out.

I never, I never. You never left? No, because I, I am. Was the fires close to you? At some point, it was somewhat close. Like someone told me it's good to be poor in L.A. Because you're not in the hills where the fires and the floods get you. You're in the grid with all the valet people.

Yeah. That is funny where they go, they go, well, no one's picking up these cars. And all these rich, all these poor people are driving like Mercedes-Benz and fucking And Audi's being like everyone died in the fire. Yeah. I always think about, you know, because they talk about the, the tech billionaires, Elon and Zuckerberg. I don't know if it's true, but they're building compounds in New Zealand for like the end of the world.

But the question. Did you see Mountain Head? It was kind of based on that. Did you see that? Oh, I guess I'm better informed. I guess I'll leave the conversation No it was a and it kind of sucked It's a little disappointing but Correll was in it

Oh where the four tech guys go away I remember it was all about that Yeah yeah yeah I forget who wrote it some big guy But it kind of sucked Yeah but the premise itself is interesting Because you go well what happens Right hypothetically let's play this out the world ends you get to your compound you're gonna need security but then what stops the security

from going well i got the gun and i know how to fight and you're just a fucking nerd that knew how to program computers yeah there's a there's a a fucking guy douglas rush off who writes about these billionaires and he's an economist and he's like just he can't believe like they they took them to some one of their conferences and he thought they were going to to ask, he thought they were going to ask them about questions about, you know, how do we help the society? But no, they just wanted to know how do we survive. Like, do we have the people with shock collars who are a security? Holy shit. They really are taking it to the level of, like, who will have access to our food supply? You know, it's just showed, I just showed my poor brain

my like dumb brain by going like security, you'll turn on you. And they're like, we have electric dog callers. They're not going to do anything. They're going to obey us if they want to eat and live. But then my thing is to just fucking kill me. Because I'm not going to live in a fucking post-apocalyptic society. No.

Where there's six guys in New Zealand living perfectly fine than everyone else. It's Mad Max. I was thinking that in a post-apocalyptic society, I did a woman in show about this, Like you're still trying to get to an audition. You got to suck someone off for gas. You know, you finally get to the audition. And it's just a voice.

It's for a serial. And it's just, it's a commercial. And it's just a voice in the darkness going, okay, Eddie. It's just down between you and a charred corpse for this role. All we got left is this guy that died in the initial blast. and you. So show us what you got.

Are you ready? Great. We're going to go in a different direction. Yeah. It really, man, it gets to the point where you're like,

are they trying to make it an apocalypse? I, because what you said about that author that writes about billionaires, you think they go. You got to read him. They go, rush off.

Rush off, but they go like, look him up. What kind of philanthropy? Take order, order three books. Well, stop the podcast, we'll read these books, and then we'll come back.

Douglas Rushhoff. But it is, it's amazing that you go, a normal person thinks, well, what are they going to do with society or whatever? A billionaires go, we don't give a fuck. They don't care. At least the Vanderbilt's used to make libraries and shit in hospitals. You know? Jacob, do you think we should put in a bathroom for the proletariat in the library? Okay.

Fine. Fine. I guess they admit liquids like we do. Did you find it? Let's go ahead. Talk about it a little. Yeah, let's bring them out. Can they hear you? No, not really. He's off mic. Oh, fuck. But Douglas Rushkoff.

Rushkoff. Name the books. He's an American theorist, writer. He, uh, first off, I'm looking at it as education. He's got a BA from Princeton. He's got his masters from Colorado. I mean, this guy went to the American Film Institute. Good guy, though.

Yeah, he, uh, bibliography. No, not, yeah, just his books. His books are free rides, how to get high without drugs. Siberia, life in the trenches of cyberspace. This is in 94. And then as he goes forward, shit starts getting real. 2010, he wrote program or be programmed. 10 commands for a digital age paperback.

Uh, throwing rocks at the Google bus in 2016. 2019's team human. That's a good one. 22's Survival of the Richest, which is probably going to be the one that I read. That is great. And then 2024, programmer be programmed, 11 commands for the AI future. I haven't read that yet. Paperback.

But he's great to read because he understands these fucking lunatics. Yeah. And they say that the most read chapters of his is chapter eight in the book. Survival of the richest? Survival of the richest. What's that chapter? It's called Extinction Rebellion. Oh, dude.

This is not a drill, an Extinction Rebellion Handbook. Yeah, Extinction Rebellion is the name of a group. I don't know if you know that. No. But they actually do stuff like real shit to try to stop the eco side. Like they, in London, they fucking block the M5. Like they do real things. They don't do a very nice, you know.

They don't do a very nice. nice march where they're not you know sing songs yeah and talking to the police they fucking just blocked they blocked the machinery of capitalism i couldn't do it i know it's scary i don't have the balls to do it i'm old now yeah that's my thing is that i have a bad shoulder that's really funny that's your excuse for it they go why didn't why didn't eddie fight in the apocalypse and you know that right shoulder is it is the right it's we don't know if it's a rotate you know i can't sleep on my right now it's really gotten have you gone to a doctor i don't you know i i'm very old school you know i uh i will only go to a doctor if i see blood on the mattress that's really funny i'm thinking about going soon

because it hurts yeah do you try to like prop it up on a pillow i work out and it and then but just when you sleep it it fucking hurts i i i can't sleep on that sign anyway it's a whole fucking i i don't know why i brought that up except about you know it's funny is I'm as inquisitive about this that I am about the apocalypse so I go no no no you know when you get older dude it's like you start talking about shit really yeah so yeah it was a clot yeah yeah I just had that a buddy of mine I got deep vein thrombosis and I go like so what are you doing he's like taking pills and I can't do this or that and you go but I'm at the age now where I'm in my 40 in my 20s I would heard that it would have been like Yeah, it sucks is I'm lighting a cigarette.

I'm like, yeah, good luck. And now in my 40s, I go, what was the first sign? Yes. Because I'm like waiting for it. Yeah. If my right shoulder starts hurting. Oh, yeah. Did you ever smoke cigarettes?

No, just a lot of weed. Okay. I was a cigarette guy and a weed guy. Never a cigarette. Are you off of cigarettes now? I've been 13 years without smoking. Oh, great. But I...

You did some damage. Oh, her and I want to come back. Katie and I are looking at smoke. Is that every? right because of all the shit why not why not why not if i what i'm going to be going through is it a real pleasure yeah it's by the way this would be funny a commercial force smoking as the society collapses yeah you go listen hey it's all falling might as well have a marlborough things like that yeah things like you know you know as you watch the chaos outside and have limited access to food supply and it's

going to be 130 tomorrow. You know what might be nice? A Marlboro red. That's what it is. That's how you sell it where you go, not only is it an appetite suppressant, but you can light it off the burning buildings. Every time. I did that thing about the only thing I like about the LA fires is that I like cigars and I just lean out the window. It's really funny. Thanks. Thanks God. Well, my family's from Northern California. And they've dealt with fires. My grandma lived in Lake County, which was like central to where all those fires

happened in Northern California. Is that near Mount Chasta? No. It is by, it's by Yucaya. I don't know if you know where Yucaya is. It's up north of San Francisco. Oh, okay.

It's south of Oregon. It's about three hours north of the Bay Area. Oh, okay. Yeah. And it's, I've been up to fucking Eureka now. Yeah. Doing comedy.

Yoreka's fucking cool. It's so fucking. Dorica's very Mendonino. It's like east of Mendonino. I don't know if you know Mendonino's like. I don't want to brag about do I know Mendoncino or not. All I'm saying is if you watched murder she wrote. I never did.

I had no interest in that. I'm reading Rushoff. Oh, yeah. Survival of the richest. Well, I'm watching Lansberry. And I'm seeing how all this shit goes down. I saw her alive when she was like 90 something in L.A.

That's the thing you do in L. like my wife will go, you know, Angela Lansbury's at the Beverly Hill Cinema today, introducing, you know, the Orient Express. She was for that. And so we go and she's there, you know, yes, you know, it was great. Yeah, I mean, she's Jessica Fletcher. She's one of the greatest actresses of our time. She was great.

Bed knobs and broomsticks. I mean, the lady's bed and everything. Benoms and broomsticks. She's the best. But when you go, I remember. in northern California that I always have the fires or whatever and people in LA would be like, oh, sucks. sucks you're having those fires.

And then you're like, fuck you guys. So there was a little bit of, there's a real, North hates South. I'll tell you what, I think North hates South more than South hates North in California. I agree. L.A., they're like, we're having the time of our lives in New York. And then they're in hoodies and the fog up north going shut the fuck up. Yeah, but I think the north is cooler. Yes, I agree.

I love Northern California. Yeah. If I were to live anywhere other than New York, it would probably be Northern California. The one of California is very cool. I just performed up there. I love it. I love San Francisco.

Yep. My dad's from Oakland. He's from the East Bay. I love the East Bay. It's unlivable as far as rent now because of these techies. Well, it's starting to come back because the techies moved to Austin. They left. Oh, good.

And so now there's like. So now they're starting to, now what's happening is San Francisco's becoming affordable. San Francisco is. Good. No, I mean that. is like, I'm a tourist. You still have to have a lot of money.

Yeah. I mean, that's like, it's not anywhere. It's not what it should be. Right. As someone that lived there when I was a kid, I spent a lot of time there as a kid. It was like, how long were you there for? My dad, my dad lived in Marin with my grandma for like.

Marit is so, I just performed at the Throck Morton. My dad. That's awesome. Worked at the liquor store down the street from the Throckmorton. I believe in Mill Valley. Bill Valley. And I was there. I got there at night and not a,

fucking soul on this. Isn't that crazy? It's spooky. Where is everybody? Up in the hills. Yeah. They're hill people, but you don't know that. They don't let you know that they're all liberal hill people where they go, everyone has rights,

return to my hills. Yeah. But I, uh, that's, that's a part of my childhood that was probably my fondest memories. Is that right? We're staying out there, uh, in the summers and winters. What years were you there for? Ninety- I mean, for you, you, 89 to 93. Oh, okay.

They were like five years. Yeah, I spent about, yeah, from when I was about six, five to ten years old. I would go out because my mom lived in Denver and I'd go out. Yeah, so you did a lot of playing outdoors. It was great. I'd run around. There was like a lot of, especially in Mill Valley. Yeah.

Children have to run around on treadmills now because it's so dangerous out. They just have, parents just have treadmills. Which is crazy because we were just free-range dodging kiddivers. Yes. Yes. There was a, and this is when I, now I grew up in Aurora, which is, uh, In Colorado. Yeah, which is southeast of Denver.

It's a nice suburb. Yeah. One time I was walking to school and I used to cut through this backyard. I'd cut through because it took like 20 minutes off the walk. Right. I cut through this guy's backyard and then went through this drainage up into my school. And one time I was in fifth grade and I'm like walking to school and this van just pulls up and then like pulls in front of the house and the door opens. And I fucking run.

You know what was better? run and I was like, that's a kidnapper. And the guy went, whoa, he goes, I live here. I live here. And I came around the corner where the house was. And I remember specifically him going, but good job. He was like, he was like impressive. I was cutting through his backyard, but he was like, hey, good job.

A van rolled up on you and you just took off. And I was like, what a brilliant move it would have benefited. But now come here. That's how he could have got me. It was positive reinforcement. Yeah, totally. Thank you. And he's like, yep, you're mine then.

There are some very shrewd serial killers. That's what I've learned through Netflix. Very shrewd. You can't be pussyfooting out here while you're catching your victims. You got to, it's, it's ABC, A, B, K, always be killing. Like when I read that, who was it? Was it Bundy who did that thing where he faked a broken arm? That's what they did in Silence of the Lambs.

They based it off of Ted Bundy. That's right. Ted Bundy would go, I broke my arm. Could you help me with the couch? And he was handsome. That's what I have going for me. Yeah.

Is my handsomeness when I just, with the ladies. And they go, they go, oh, am I. And I've got to stand up. They go, am I falling in love or am I being sex trafficked? That's what I need. I need to. Eddie, you've had so many starlets over a dinner go, Eddie, am I falling for you?

Are you turning me into a sultan sex slave? Has there ever been a movie about a serial killer comic? No. That might be funny. Yeah. And scary. Like, do it realistically.

Because then we would start looking at... I don't want Will Arnett as the guy. We would start looking at people going, are you? Are you who they're basing off of? This guy's charming. There's a couple comics, and I won't say names,

but you know the rule on this podcast. If I say somebody, come to my show live, and I'll tell you the name. Oh, that's great. It's how it's it's unfair to keep. I just name them. Yeah.

I name them and then I call Mike and then you say, yeah, you got to hit that to fuck out. I know, I know. I know. I'm going to go to L.A. I'm going to fucking see him.

But there are comics that I've seen that, that I know that I would go like, oh, I think he, if he became a serial killer, if they found bodies. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I remember Dan St. Germain said that about Facebook, about a comic where he was like, man, these Facebook posts. are going to make a lot more sense if they start finding bodies. And that's what he wrote me the one time.

And I was like, yeah, you're absolutely right. Are you good buddies with Dan? Oh, he's like my... Does he live here? Yeah. I didn't know. Well, now he's up in, yeah, he's up in L.A. Yeah, when he wrote on Superior Donuts and that stuff.

Yeah, he's doing great now. He's out here. He's my, yeah, we're writing partners. We have a work on shows together. He's the man. I love Dan's age. Still sober? Yeah.

Good. You know, he fights for it. He's doing a good job. But he's the fucking man. He's so funny. Oh, cool. And he would never hurt a fly, so he's not who I'm talking. Oh, God, the phone call.

Mike, it's Dan. We got to, I want you to cut from minute three to minute 40. What I need you to do is, now hear me out. I need you to cut minute 36 to 37. Yeah. Put it on the back end at minute eight and nine. Yes. It's going to look like we're talking about it.

Even get rid of Liberacee thing. I know his son, I know his son, Michael Liberacee. Right. I'm not going to be invited to the compound on Martha's Vineyard. Yes. Yes. Have you ever had somebody that you loved and knew a long time in L.A. changed that you saw them like, did you ever watch like the business get them?

Where you go, damn, you really? I think so. But I don't know. Do you stay to yourself? I kind of stay to myself. I always love that about you. I kind of stay to myself. I don't really like.

Every time I've ever been on a show with you. The feeling is like the outdoor cat came inside. Everybody goes, he never does this. Don't pet him. Yeah, that's exactly that. They go, no, no, no, oh, oh, oh. You come in and they go, oh, and he's inside.

And then you curl up and they go, you go up whenever he wants. Oh, he's going up. Yeah, yeah. I think you are one of the funniest human beings of all time. I have watched your stand-up with pure enjoyment, the entire time I've done comedy. It's very rare.

I think I've became jaded on a lot of people. But if you've never watched Eddie Pepitone, go on YouTube and you have, I think, like three or four specials up there. How many specials? Well, I don't know, but the new one is called The Collapse. The Collapse is fantastic. Where did you film that?

Chicago at a place called Lincoln Hall, which is mainly for, you know it? I know, mainly for bands. Yeah, but wonderful, the collapse, wonderful introduction, Gary Goldman. I'm doing his show tomorrow in Union Hall. Hell yeah.

Gary is, Gary's one of the... Man, is he a good... He's just a comic. Like he's a craftsman. He is a fucking craftsman. It's Joe List and I always talk about this, but you watch your Goldman bit and it's like admiring a wonderful piece of furniture

where you go like, how did he do the ends? How do I get the ends like that? That's perfectly put. Yeah, you go, I've been woodworking my whole life and I can't get... It's so fun. Because I love Gary and he's a big fan of mine and we are opposites. Yes.

Like I go up there just spewing shit and he's up there. It's everything is like it. It's, I don't know, man, but it's in a world where there's so much shit. In a world. In a world. With poop everywhere. Find people you like and then support him. And I think you're one of those guys where it's like, I was so happy you were coming

on the podcast. Thanks. Because I think you're fucking hilarious. the collapse on YouTube, go watch it. I watch it. It's fucking fantastic. I didn't want to give away too many bits. The Apple watches the opener so you can't get fucking mad at me.

We'll put the link down there. Great. Eddie Pepitone. New York City legend. LA phenomenon. Trying to go big. Colorado pariah. This sort of a bitch better never come to the 5-2-8-0.

He comes a mile high. We scalp them. Yeah. much. Thanks, man.