Soder - 128: Rainbow Six Style with Marcus King | Soder Podcast | EP 126

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

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Hey, everybody. I'm still on the road. Golden Retriever of Comedy Tour is, it's in the final stretch. We're in the home stretch. If you're in Charlotte, we're there this Friday. If you're in Durham, we're there Saturday. And then we're coming to Munhaul, Pennsylvania. We're coming to Cleveland, Ohio, to Columbus, Ohio, to Iowa, if you live near the Grand Falls Casino. Those are the final dates of the Golden Retriever of Comedy Tour. It's going on right now. Dansoda.com for all tickets. come see the show and then we're recording this in June. More info on that coming shortly. But dance order.com, I promise you, once the tour is done, you're not going to be seeing a lot of this pushing it on you.

You know, we're going to be going back to clubs to work on the new hour, which announced it soon. That'll be fun. Come see me with a notepad, bomb my stuff. But right now, dance order.com, golden retriever of comedy tour. I love this hour. I've been having so much fun on the road with it. Netflix is a joke.

festival. I know Los Angeles, I was just there doing an hour in the fall. So Netflix is a joke was like, hey, come out, do a show. What do you want to do? Well, here's what I want to do. I want to watch a movie with Tim Dillon and make fun of it in front of an audience. One of those, remember those movie watchalongs we were doing at the beginning of the tour? Doing a live one, Los Angeles, May 6th at the Agora, 9 o'clock. Dan Soder.com for tickets. Come watch me and Tim Dillon watch a very fun movie, trying to get cleared, but if we get it cleared, it's going to be very funny. We're going to make fun of a very fun movie to make that. I don't think I've ever even watched, but on site, you know it's going to be a fun one to make fun of, especially with Tim Dillon, Dan Soder.com, go get tickets

for Netflix as a joke, the movie watch along. It's going to be fun. Not a giant place, you know, just a couple hundred of us watching a shitty movie while Tim and I, and maybe a special guest to make fun of it. There's a lot of people in town. I might be having friends coming over just to sit down and make fun of shit. Because that's what you should do, right? It's make fun of the world. Danceorder.com for tickets. You're doing that Blue Note show.

Yeah. I saw that picture with Shane. I was like, fuck yeah. Yeah, dude. That's what's going on. Dude, I love that you're doing that. I love that you're doing that, are you doing it like as a residency?

Yeah. That's fucking sick. We're doing like, I guess it's, we just start recording. All together, it's like six. of nights and we do like uh we do two shows a night we just get like very exploratory that's fucking awesome yeah that's what's up that's what a guy of your caliber of talent should be doing not like jingles for gambling sites fucking chilling at the blue note i'm not above that you go

draft kings whee and just wailing and you're like damn dude it's that draft king's lick that got me hooked that's what i'm saying yeah uh but that how do you like the blue note is one of those places in New York City where it's like a legendary venue. Yeah. Like people, musicians talk about it. I know the musicians that like the cellar in the village underground are like, oh, blue notes to shit. Was it you or them that was like,

hey, I want to come do a like a run there? So the way this all kind of started. So Chris Dave is Rick Rubin's favorite drummer, which is like a crazy stat, you know? And he's like... I'd lead with that if I were him. Yeah. He should make a

t-shirt. Like Rick Rubin's favorite drummer? I'm recruitment's favorite. Like, you know, Billy Gibbons from Zizi Top has business cards that say friend of Eric Clapton. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't know that. Which you're pretty sick. If I were him, my business card is go, ha, ha, ha, ha.

That would be my business card. I go, Billy Gibbons. Ha, ha, ha. That'd be a good business card. Yeah. Now, so we did the record together, this record called Mood Swings. Which is great. Check it out.

By the way, I don't do proper introductions. They get mad at me. Hello. Go listen to Marcus King. Go listen to every single thing Marcus King is done. Because I'm telling you right now. Go listen to the son of a Gary. Marcus King is an elite performer.

Singer, guitar player, unfucking believable, will melt your face. Just go watch him. Shout out to Dean Del Rey, who put me on the Marcus King band early, 2017, 18. Yeah. Around there. It's a killer. Yes. I mean, it's unfathomable, really.

Guys, you guys are killer. And I listened and I was like, that is how I would rate it. I listened and I sat back and I went, killer. I went and hung out with Dean. Last time I was in L.A. for the Grammy Week stuff, he does this tribute to Bond Scott every year. I saw clips from it. Yeah. What a lineup.

He gets all these motherfuckers out there, like, Homi was out there, so I got to hang out with him. You did, what did you do, Nightstocker? What Bon Scott song did you do? Yeah. Josh sang it. I forget. Yeah, I think it was, look it up. They did like, dude, but I don't know if you saw the clip of him and Dean talking about it.

Oh. I mean, as a huge Queens of the Stone Age fan, Hami put you over. That's my boy. He was like, that motherfucker plugged in on a guitar that they found backstage and ripped. It's one of my favorite things that are watching guys that I love talk about guys that they love, which does sound very gay. but night crawler yeah night prowler what is it night prowler yeah night prowler night rider which is like a deep cut because dean was like yeah we got the notes last year we did a lot of hits we're going to do a lot of deep cuts you got a good dean del Rey well you know he went on the road

with me i know that's like a year that's how that was what the first time i met you was when you were on the road and you came into the bonfire and did some live songs and you're like i'm on the road with Dean Del Rey. And that's why I was like, oh, and I got to do, I showed you my favorite, uh,

character, which is detective Dean Del Rey, which is, I think he's the killer. Yeah. Yeah. But I love Dean so much, but I have noticed like,

I think he says killer less now. Because of, it's kind of like how Eddie Murphy changed his laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Which I completely get. I get. I completely,

I stop doing macho man a lot when people are like, do macho man. You're like, I don't want to do it that much. But so I get it. I say we signed a petition for Dean Del Rey to bring back killer because I liked it. Bring it back. Bring it back, baby.

Duss it off. He's so, he's one of the most confident people and I love that about him. He's like, we took him on the road and like doing comedy like, like Big Jay knows this because he went out with, you know, corn and stuff. So like it's hard doing a comedy set for a group of people there for music.

Well, because it almost feels like, they're getting an announcement. Yes. I don't think they lock in the way they do when you're sitting down watching a comedy show when you're standing around and a guy comes out and he's, how you doing? They expect you to go, so there's met a fire.

They're on edge. Yeah. That's what it is. It's the, it's, they want music. Yeah. Like,

I feel like the inverse, because back in the day, like Eddie Murphy's, I think it's raw, they had, he had, yeah, he had a band open for him.

Do you think that works easier? music first? I think it makes sense. I mean, I'd be curious to know like how, what Shane's experience was because he did that

with Zach Bryan. Oh yeah. And that's like 80,000 people. Yeah, he told me he was like, I'm just going up there. I'm going to go for a little bit to see how it goes, then I'm out.

Yeah. It's like, yeah, you got to go. It's almost like a heist. You're like, how many laughs can I grab? Big J is a different animal. Yeah.

Because Big J. told me that once he got the cameraman on his side when he was opening for corn, it brought the show to him. Okay. Where he would like point people out and he'd be like, look at this fucking guy. And then they go to him. And so the guy's up on the screen. Yeah.

And then Jay's being Jay and just being hilarious. And it's like. And I mean, he, he is one of my favorite comedians and you are as well. Like, I went to see Jay the other night and like his crowd work is just, it's like watching like a jazz musician. Yeah, it's very unfair. Yeah. That Big Jay gets compared to modern crowdwork. Oh yeah. Because it is, it's like, um, it's like me comparing you to like a boy band that learned how to play a song from the record label. Like they're not actual guitarists. You're like, that's not real guitar. You're just watching them mimic because I've watched, I mean, I've watched

Big J over 20 years. I've watched hours of him do crowdwork. And it's great watching him get to a place where you go, he's going to open him up. Like a boxer. It's like he like walks, gets him into a corner, cuts off the ring and you're like, they can't go anywhere.

I love it. They got to answer it. And also what I like about it is, as someone that doesn't do crowd work and just does bits, it's so like you watch and it's refreshing because you go, damn,

I wish I could just be that, like, it helps me be looser, but also I appreciate it because I'm like, you're seeing a different show every time. Like those comedy club waitresses, they're listening to a different show every time,

which is fucking awesome. I know. I mean. Is that what the blue note kind of was for you? Is like, let me go in there? Yeah. I mean,

we kind of have these vehicles, which are kind of like, you know, I'm sure Jay has like a few bits in his back pocket. Like, if it's a really shitty crowd, like you can kind of fall back on some material. That's kind of how it is at the blue note.

Okay. So you guys have like a song if you're like, hey, if I'm not feeling this shit, What's the, how do you audible into that? Is it just like, can the, because you were talking about Rick Rubin's favorite drummer. Yeah.

And then I fucking went down the past because I'm an ADD pothead. So Chris Dave and you were like, hey, let's do a show just the two of us. Yeah, well, we talked about doing, you know, some shows together for, for like three years we talked about it. And then we finally, our buddy Alex Curlin, who runs all the blue notes, he was like, do it here. Because Chris kind of does like a residency there

because he does a trio with Blake Mills and Pino Palladino, and he works with Robert Glasper a bunch. Like he had a duo that he does with DJ Jazzy, Jeff. Yeah. And a tap dancer. That's crazy. Just like wild shit. That's like a real artist.

Yeah. Where they're like, I'll just, I can make it work. Yeah. Then us were like, I need a two drink minimum and decent chicken tenders. Or I can't get my art off the ground. If you don't have a copy. Cocktail named after a dead comedian, I can't do the show. If you don't have the Bernie Mac Margarita, I can't go up there.

So when you decide to do this show and they go, hey, do it here, for you is that like wearing sweatpants to work? Do you get to relax and go like, let's have fun and chill? Like the other night, I mean, I wore this. Yeah. Like what I'm wearing right now, sweatshirt and sneakers. and I felt really insecure about. Really?

And I asked my, my, my, uh, tech with me. I was like, it's okay, I'm wearing sneakers on stage. He's like, yeah. Yeah, like you're sitting on a stool. So chill up. What do you usually wear? I mean, I usually like, my grandfather was a, uh, professional musician, and he always said, like, you don't go on stage without a pair of boots on.

Yeah. And it's like, just so a wild concept to him to be. Yeah. Not dressed up. What are you going to marry a black? You go, whoa, holy shit. How do we get from? Whoa, Grandpa, Peepa.

How do we get from boots to blacks? Yeah. It's, I remember, the Dixie Grant party. I remember when I started stand-up, they were like, you have to wear. I started in Arizona, and they're like, you have to wear pants.

Because one time I came in in shorts, it's like 106 out. Yeah. And I wore shorts to the comedy club, and the owner was like, you're lucky I don't make you wear a suit. And you're like, all right. So it is that like,

They were a different generation. They were like, I have to wear suits and fucking boots and be gussied up all the time. My dad was of a similar generation, though, because like when he was coming up, he was working with this band down in Fort Lauderdale. And, like, it was all mafia owned. So he would come in and they made him, like, dress up. Yeah. So he'd wear, like, a blazer with, like, a t-shirt. Hell yeah.

But my dad looked really cool. Yeah. If you don't look cool, that can be a little. Yeah. Annoying. Annoying to somebody. I think annoying is the first where it goes. It doesn't go crazy.

You go like, yeah. Like this fucking guy. Yeah. He just go, fuck. And all these like mafia dudes just, they loved him. But like the bar owner there or the club manager was like, go home and change your fucking shirt right now. Because he didn't want to get his legs broken. Yeah, exactly.

The mafia guys were probably like, they would take my dad out and just like see like how far they could push him. because my dad would just do like lines of coke from his elbow to his thumb and just like going crazy. He had this guy young at with name Captain Pete that carried a parrot on his shoulder and just like smuggled loads and loads of cocaine into Florida. And this is the 80s. This is like 80s. Late 70s, early 80s. Yeah, brother. Yeah.

That is pure cut shit. Yeah, that's where our parents were for a different generation. These baby boomers got to do pure cut cocaine. Yeah. They got that Colombian shit that was like, dude, I remember my mom, I think I've told the story before, but she let it slip because my parents used to live in San Francisco in the 70s. So they were fucking party.

They were about it. They were about it. And my mom just one time went, one time we got some Coke so good, your dad wanted to go out dancing. And I went, damn. I think I was like a teenager and I was like, yeah, what?

Repeat it. She's like, we used to have this pen jar. My mom's like worked in an insurance company. She was like, you know, a single mom, but like an 80s mom. them, Murphy Brown shoulder pads. I love it.

We had a pen jar next to our kitchen phone. And one time I'm like spinning it around or I'm on the phone with someone. And it spins all the way around and it said dope on it. But I didn't put it together. I was a kid. And I went, oh, like cool. Like cool. And then I grew up and, you know, I was like smoking weed in the house by the time I was 16.

And I was like, yeah, was that dope jar? My mom, like, didn't even not look away from the news. She goes, yeah, it was my dope jar in San Francisco. And I was like, what happened to that? She's like, I think I sold it at a garage sale. You're like, no. Hell, yeah, Trish. Yeah, dude.

Trisha, she gave me her joint carrier from the 60s. Oh, man. She was like, yeah, you want to, yeah, I'll show you. Yeah, let me see it. Square. If you're running a business, man, that's tough. It's hard, you know, like where do you start? Where do you go to?

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Yeah, dude, they'd roll up some pinners. Yeah, exactly. I can't even fit modern fucking joints into this, but this is. That's great. She found that shit, and she's like, do you want my joint carrier? And I was like, hell fucking yet. You can't even like, look at that. It's got the thing for the papers.

I could make it work. You want it? No, no, please. You got to use it. I do have to. You know what? I have to learn how to roll joints. I'll stock you up.

I use these thing. They're called King Palm Rollies. Okay. And it's like Dan Aluerbach put me on to them. And basically they're made out of palm leaves and you just like stuff your weed down in them. Get that all day. I could stuff. They look like little cigars.

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Yeah. Like, I fucking, um, so when you do like the thing that, when did you, first off, when you see Marcus King play, you go, oh, you were born with a guitar in your hand or what it feels like. Did you start playing since, how old were you when you started playing guitar? Man, I really was like two or three years old. like as soon as I could, like before I could walk, I was playing a guitar like, oh shit.

But I had like a really lonely childhood. Shout out, dude. Yeah. What's up, brother? Pretty rough childhood. I think I learned how to do voices because I had friends. Exactly. Absolutely.

Yeah. And I mean, I quote you all the time in all my interviews is like, you think I'm going around from city to city begging for people's like approval because shit went well? Yeah, dude. And people don't understand it's like a true gift. in a curse of like when you have that and you get the motivation to go make stuff that'll bring people in to like enjoy. There's a carbon dioxide that comes with that. There's like a heavy like that's

the oxygen, but then you got to breathe some shit out. And if you don't take care of that, that's what I tell all my friends like that I, that I, you know, like as I watch my friends like Shane and Nate and all these people get like really, really big, I'm always like, dude, let me know what your carbon dioxide is. Let's fucking, let's get that breath out of you because you got to keep breathing. But that means breathing in and breathing out,

you know? I mean, it does. I mean, speaking of that, like, another thing you said that I resonated with was like the crossover between, like, I played with G.I.

Joe's and Armymen. Hell yeah. And my wrestlers until I was like 12 or 13. Shout out, dude. But started smoking when I was like 11 or 12. I mean, did you, yeah, you had a dad that had a friend named Captain Pete. Yeah.

My dad's friend's, name was Jim. He wasn't a captain of shit, but he would build these fucking motorized ducks that they would put in the lake. And he'd try to get him over 100 miles an hour. Jim was insane. That's sick. Sawed off shotgun under his couch when he lived with my dad. One time I was laying on the couch watching TV and you know when you're just like little and you just like run your hand along on the carpet. And I put my hand under and I was like, you and I like knocked it out. I was like, I found a penthouse like that when I was a kid. Yeah, dude, little fucking, your little fingers just brush up against something. You go, what the fuck is it? I had like one of those. I had like one of

those like little spaz moments, you know, when you just, you have so many emotions. You're just like, and I had to go to the bathroom and just like, sit down. And I sat on the ground and like, I saw under like the vanity where the heat comes out. Yeah, what is that? Because I had older stepbrothers.

Yes. And I was like, Pennhouse. What is this? Yeah, penthouses, by the way. That ain't the starter kit. No, it's not. That's when you see a pussy for the first time.

You go, what is this a surgeon's magazine? You're like, look around and you go, I'm not trying to say a fucking. open wound. Yeah. The first time, and this is crazy, and ladies,

you know, this is true, but the first time you see a vagina, you go, what the fuck? You don't realize it's the coolest thing on the planet.

It's the coolest thing on it. You know, whoa. And then you go, Chappelle used to have that great bit about, uh, it's the only one, it only satisfies one sense,

the most, which is feel. Yeah. He goes, because it doesn't look good. Smells terrible. And he like goes through all the senses. And he goes,

but it feels. incredible. It really does. But it's also funny when you're a kid, it's like that discovery thing. And by the way, I said shot, it was a pump handle.

That's what it was. Because I felt the pump handle and then I pulled it out and as a kid, a 90s kid, you're like, yo, this is sick. Thank God I was an only child.

That's the first gun I ever bought. It was a pump, pump shotgun? Yeah, like six years ago. Sick. I had just got in my own place in Nashville and I saw like, you know,

on the news like you know saw some crazy shit on the news and I was like I think I should have a gun in my house and like being in Nashville they're like they put your name in a little thing and they're like here you go dude and you just walk out with it in no case I'm like am I allowed to do this it's really funny when you buy a gun because I was with my roommate when he bought a gun at a gun show in Arizona and in Arizona all they do is high five you and they just give you the gun

they go you got the cash you go there you go you're a gun owner and he's like he gave him a nine he's like my right It's a shitty-ass nine, too. But it is, I think that is, you know, Katie will probably see this. We'll have to have a conversation about this. But when we get a house, I'm getting a gun. Yeah. I love guns.

That's why they say, like, when you get a generator, you got to get a gun. Yeah, because someone, because what happens if someone comes for that generator? Exactly. You think pleases and thank yous are going to let it be left? Exactly. You just brandish the thing and you go, whoa! Yeah. That's why I wanted to, yeah, dude, there ain't nothing.

Cool. The only thing with guns that comes close to that is the slide going back, but the main one, the one that fucking kicks you in your taint is the fucking, did you go to a range or like, it's natural. It's never been fired. Never been fired.

It's never been fired. I mean, I've shot guns before, but like that one that I got for my home, like, I just luckily have never had to use it. Thank God. Or grab it or anything.

Yeah. It is one of those ones where if you use it, it's the best bet. Yeah. Because you go, well, sprays. Did you ever see that interview with Sturgle Simpson on Rogan? He was talking about he's got like an assault rifle. And this guy had broken into his house and East Nashville.

And like he came down the stairs like. Like Rainbow Sixth style? And the dude just looks up and sees Sturgle Simpson and his tidy white. He's pointing an assault rifle at him. Yeah. And he just left. Yeah, absolutely. Also, Sturgle Simpson has the face of a Navy SEAL.

Yes, he does. He looks a lot like my mom's dad. He looks a lot like my grandfather. He looks like a Civil War soldier. Yes, he does. He's got that face. Yes, he does. In football, I call that World War I face.

Brock Purdy has it for the 49ers. Famous catcher of the San Francisco Giants, Buster Posey. Okay. They look like guys that got shot down over Europe at like 1960. Just faces that you don't see anymore. Yeah. They're all in Kentucky. Yes.

Well, isn't he, Sturgle's from Kentucky? Yeah. Dude. Tyler Childers has the same vibe. You two are my guys. Yeah. Yeah, you and Sturgel are guys that like keep, you, Sturgel, homie. There's, there's guys that I listen to that just keep evolving with music.

And you know what it is? And I think this is, because you're all stylistically very different. Y'all, you guys all play like you love music. Yeah. And I think that's like, we're in an era where that's lost in everything. Like I'm watching comedians who don't like comedy. I'm watching chefs that don't want to cook. You're watching musicians that don't want to play.

But they're doing it because they're making more money than they've ever made. So why would they turn it off? And you go, but that's not why we're doing this shit. Sure. You know, it's like you were playing a guitar before you could fucking walk. And I have a great reverence for the art. Was that hard growing up with a third generation musician? Was there moments where you're like, do I want to do this?

I never had any doubt, man. I knew that it was going to, it was going to be my profession one way or another. My grandfather, I mean, he was, like a career military man, and he just played on the weekends. So I knew, like, at the very least, I could do that. I could work a straight job and then play on the weekends,

and I could at least make a live and doing that, but I always strive to do more. And I just always wanted to play. So. What was your first moment of, because you're around all these professional musicians, you know, whether it's your dad or even your grandfather playing on the weekends. When was the moment where someone that you respected as a musician saw you play and went like,

holy shit? Because, I mean, you're doing, for me, you're just doing magic and I'm a simple man. Like, you could play a three-court song and I'd be like, but I'm talking about a guy that were you felt, I guess, you know, there's not a better way to, like, scene, like where you were like, yeah, I can fucking play this shit. I mean, I was really lucky. I had really good friends in the business that were like local legends that played on the weekends and they would need guitar players and they would let me come out.

And I would just do it, you know, for pocket change, you know, because I just wanted the experience. I got my learners permit when I was 14 and I started, you know, and I had my dad's old minivan. Yeah. Pontiac Transport, 94, baby. and in that van. It does make me feel old because I go, that's still a new car. I was 11 with 94.

That's a fucking great car. I mean, at the time, it was relatively new, I guess. No, but you're like driving around 14, man, the south, they just let you fog, they go, they go, can you put, tie your own shoes? You can drive a car.

Here's a cigarette. Yeah. And then you go to the Pacific Northwest and they go, I just, you're 19 years old. I don't know if you should ride in the front. A little coddling. Yeah. But that's how it was like, hell, when I came up here, like in South Carolina, again, like, you can buy an enclosed trailer without a title, without anything.

Yeah. You don't have to put a tag on it. If the lights are working, you're good. And we drove it up here, and we accidentally went on a parkway. This one, I was like 18, and we accidentally went on a parkway, and they pulled us over. And they're like, you got a title registration for your trailer. There's no tag on it. and we're like, what?

What are you talking about with your rules? It was in Yonkers. Oh, buddy. They're just itching for something. Yeah, dude. They saw us coming, man. They impounded it. We never got it back.

You never got it back? We went over, all our gear was in it. We went over and we were like, hey, you know, like, can we at least get our gear out of it? And they were like, you got to pay us at least half the impound rate or whatever. So we had to figure out how to find $500. Fuck. Because, like, $500 at that time, we were like, what are we going to fucking do? Yeah, you're almost going to.

We might as well, just buy new equipment. Exactly. She's 500 bucks is a king's ransom. Yeah. So we went in, I called my stepmom who worked at the courthouse. She was a clerk of court, and she went in, or she called them and, like, gave them the riot act, you know. And I went back over there. Because before that, I went in and I was like, all right, we got the half of the money.

here you go he was like yeah I lied yeah dude let me tell you that's what I was like I hate New York you let me tell you some about New Yorkers that is that's a superpower that they have it was sick where they go hey you want the parkway where you're going north to south they go south that's 750 yeah there's nothing I can do about that you just said it was 500 they go yeah I know it's crazy you asked that 15 minutes ago and it changed it's like when I moved here like the little things with the moving goalposts especially trying to find an apartment and shit Like I moved into that place in Queens with just cash. And the guy was like, you cool not signing a lease?

And I was like, I mean, he's going to kick me out. He goes, I'll give you a month. I lived in that apartment for 15 years. Whoa. Never signed a lease. That's awesome. Month to months for 50. He increased it once, but he never fixed anything.

Damn. You can ask comics in my kitchen, me and Vecione lived together. We had a leaky pipe and it folded under our kitchen. So there was a ramp in our kitchen. You have many comics I know that twist the house? at their ankle going to get a glass of water. They're like, dude, you got to say something. I go, dude, you got to hit it with speed.

That's what I was saying. You got to hit that thing with speed and hope you fucking launch, dude. So back to the smoking while playing with action figures. Because I love meeting a kindred spirit like that. At what age did you put down the action figures? Because I was maybe 13, but like knew I had to put them away. I'm about the same. I think I just got too busy, like working.

That's where you start going like, you're doing real shit. I don't have time for my hobbies anymore. I know. And you go, dude, my hobbies are setting up epic battles. And I did, too. Yeah, dude, dude, good luck. All I know is if you were drinking with my mom in the 90s, I'm sorry that the staircase was littered.

Because that staircase for kids that can't afford the aircraft carriers or whatever, the stairs are the bet. It's a mountain range. Stairs, cupboard. Like, we'd like the wire, like, because I had the kung fu grip so they could grip onto the wire, like shelving. Oh, yeah, dude. My stepdad's garage. He would step on GI Joe's all the time.

And be like, God damn it. You're like, he was hiding out. Yeah. He was hiding out. My stepdad was fucking crazy, bro. Really? My stepdad, like. When did your parents break up?

When I was like four, four and a half, five. Yeah, same. Yeah. So when, because that is an age where you have, like, no memories of them. being together. The memories I have of them being together are bad. Really? Yeah.

Like just screaming in each other's faces. Are you the only, are you their only child? Me and my sister. Okay. So you had the two of them. So with your sister, you had someone to go like, you know, this is fucking, you believe this.

These people are crazy. I always think that's weird with where we're very similar, something I could never connect with, with my friends who had parents that they saw them love each other. It's insane. It's insane to me. My wife's like that. Really?

Where she's like they just love each other and they're just there and you go. Like when I come across that, it's like a psychological experiment. I got to find who the fuck up is in the family. So like the whole Christmas I'm like. Someone gets a little too drunk and you go, we have a front runner. Yeah. They're not serving here and you. Yeah.

How did you get that? Exactly. How did you go outside? Yeah. Should you take a walk? Yeah, I, uh, or they'll be like, uh, yeah,

just make sure like, you know, hide your, hide your stuff. Yeah, that was, why? What,

who wants it? I'm like, is there somebody snooping when they go to the bathroom? And they're like, just hide it. If you could, maybe I don't know, tuck it up in the heat vent,

you go, so you have someone here with a real problem. That's what I'm saying. That was, as I got older, I started becoming more comfortable, gravitating to my people,

my family that would get fucked up. Yeah. Because I'd go, uh, everyone else is, like, hi, how are you? And then, you know, you got a cousin or an aunt or uncle outside smoking weed. You're like, can I come hang?

Yeah. That was immediately who I vived with because it was. You don't see, like, dude, my parents hated each other my whole life. And it took, I was in my 30s. My mom and I were in San Francisco. She hadn't been back since like the 80s. And we were out there because she was helping me with my dad's mom's birthday party. And she was like, I'll fly out there with you.

They had a good relationship. So I was like, you can help me. with the birthday party because I can't do it by myself. My grandma was turning 90. She's like, yeah, I got it. And we're driving through San Francisco. And my mom just like, gets emotional out of nowhere. And I was like, you're all right?

And she's like, last time I was driving down the street was like 1981 with your father. And we were like so in love. And I was like, and I came back and I told my therapist. I was like, it was the first time I've ever seen a glimpse of my parents being in love. Wow. Of being like, fuck, I love that dude. He's been dead almost 30 years. So you're like, that's crazy to me that people like you and I, it's like not ever drinking water.

Yeah. And people are like, oh, it was like you had your first sip of water. You go, it kind of hurt my throat. I didn't really like it. Right. Because I'm not used to it. Yeah. And then you grow up and you're supposed to have these relationships.

And you're like, but I don't have any, I don't have a manual to go off of. I think that's what people don't realize children of divorce don't have. Yeah. They don't have the manual to go like, this is how you act. Which I think in some ways we're favorable in that way. Yeah. Because it's like when you don't have credit, the bad news is you don't have any credit.

Yeah. The good news is you don't have bad credit. Exactly. That's a fucking great way of putting that. You go, you're not going to fuck that you don't. Because there are marriages that sour that it's almost better that, like I always really respected the fact that my mom, even though she got divorced from my stepdad,

I respected the fact that she was like, this ain't working for me. Yeah. If you're unhappy fucking... And I always... I think that saved me from getting locked down into a lot of relationships that weren't probably good

that I didn't realize because it was like, oh, that was the manual I got where I was like, oh, there's an eject button. Yeah. My mom's like, here's a strap.

Pull this shit. You'll shoot straight up. I never knew about the eject button. I, you know, like my attachment style, all that. I mean, because I have research all this stuff now.

Mm-hmm. Which is good as you get older and also with a very fucking public life. Right. And again, it's because I had like two or three relationships, like real relationships with like women

that I probably would have married if I, and I was just a terrible partner, just a real problem. Yeah. And just like, like you said, you know, like calls coming from inside the house.

Oh, dude, when you realize that, where you go like, fuck. They're so, and I would never want to disturb their peace now that we're done. But I always thought there's like,

there's a lot of my axes that if I ever bumped into, I'd give them some knuckle and go, yeah. Hey. Right out. Come here. Come here. Let's bring it in.

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Yeah. You know, it's, I mean, like the worst example of it is when everyone wanted Adele to go through a breakup every album. And you're like, maybe don't make her. Maybe enjoy the next thing.

But that's what I do love about specifically. You with the Marcus King band and you doing your solo stuff and then going and working on other stuff, is the way that I feel about Sturgle doing what he does and doing Johnny Blues guys or Hami doing Queens

and then them crooked vultures or producing fucking Arctic monkeys you know what I mean? It's like you're moving and changing. I like an artist that it takes me a second to catch up to their next album because I go well they're different people that's what I think good stand-up specials are too

where you go oh I'm seeing a different part of his life maybe a point he's making now he wouldn't have made 10 years ago. Yeah, it's all perspective. Exactly. And just evolving with the craft. But the patience, I think where you get a good fan base is where you install a patience with people,

your fans, to go, hey, I'm growing too. Make them a fan of you. Yeah. And then just go, hey, because there's Queens of the Stone Age fans that I see that go like, no, man, I want them playing that 2002. desert rock and you go but that they were fucking 28 year old guys right now they're breaching 50

yeah like you want them to be i don't want that i don't want people to you know what i mean don't stay sexy i want you to you can stay sexy but stay sexy in your own way in a you know a grown-up way in a grown-up way i just feel like um a lot of entertainment now doesn't make room for that so that's why i love seeing when you go to the blue note and you go i'm gonna fuck around with a drummer. Yeah. Is it the drummer? Is it Chris the reason that you can trust it?

Because you go, I know this guy will always, like almost like a safety net, like he'll catch you. You got to have that. And I mean, I have that with my band too, the Marcus King band. My drummer and I, Jack, we've worked together for like almost 15 years. So, you know, you got to have people that you can trust. Yeah. It is, I mean, those are the strongest relationships I've ever built in my life or other

musicians. So like, well, they understand you more. Yeah. They understand that, you know, I think it's not that non-musicians can't understand your life, but it's what we were saying. It's perspective. It's like you don't know what it's like to live in a van and travel and be on the fucking cross Bronx expressway and get your shit jacked because a guy goes,

the fuck is this? Yeah. The fucking van with a trailer? You're like, you don't know what it is. You can go like, yeah, police can be mean. and you're like, motherfucker, not if they take your gear. It's beyond mean. It's cruel.

It is cruel. So you have that. So you feel like you have that with Chris? I do, man. Like, just as soon as we met, it was like, it was me and my, you know, Briley, my wife now. Like, it was our, like, third date. I had met her, and I flew her out to L.A. where we were recording.

And Chris, his wife was pregnant. So she was there and they connected. Right. And the four of us just. became really close and just, I don't know, some people you just meet and you're just like, immediately just like, you know. It's the best. Yeah.

That's, I mean, friendship fucking rules. Because when you vibe with somebody and then you go like, oh, shit, I think. We can keep doing this. It is, it's interesting because you really do like feel like a childlike of like, do you want to sleep over? Yeah, exactly. You want to ask with that. You're like, do you love movies? I love movies.

I'm playing it. Like, it's so, it is like, I remember the first time I worked with Shane. Literally, he's like emceeing at helium. And I was headlining it was like a Thursday night. I didn't have anything to do. And I'm just in the green room. I'm like, well, I brought my PlayStation. I'm going to play Madden. He's like, I love Madden. And then he, I'm not joking. He came to the hotel. We played Madden all night. And I couldn't find weed. And he was like, my boy makes edibles. And it was McCusker. McCusker made his own gummies. And he brought me a thing of gummies. And he's like you should put these in a refrigerator. I don't know how strong they can get.

That was what he said. And I hate one and it fucking fuck me up. I love that. Yeah, dude. The home of Cusker clan is. They're great. Great. I just hung out with Billy in Pennsylvania when I went down.

Billy's the fucking man. War mode. I've been like telling Billy, I'm like, I need a War Mode shirt. I need the Val Kilmer, a Warmore shirt. He's like, dude, he'll get you. He sent me a hat. Yeah, the hats are sick. Good ass.

War mode might have the best merch in the podcast game. Low key. Low key, but be fucking quiet. Don't tip anybody off. Yeah. Because I don't want their shit kids stricken. I want that fucking heat shirt. Is heat?

That war mode fucking heat shirts. What's up? But I do agree. You like meet people and you go like, that was my favorite part of moving in New York with stand-up. Was kind of like that. Like the way that musicians vibe, it was like meeting people doing shitty mics, doing shitty bar shows. But you're like, oh, dude. Like, Joe List and I just immediately were like.

Love Joe List. Yeah. Yeah. We were just, but we were both obsessed. remember the thing that linked us. We were both obsessed with the Jerry Seinfeld documentary comedian. And he was like, comedian. I was like, dude, that's one of the reasons I moved here.

And he was like, oh, fuck. And then we just quoted at each other. And you're like, oh, we got similar shit. And then he would put me on to, he would argue about the Celtics being the greatest team of all time. He'd like, he never watched the 1984. And he'd like go to his apartment and we'd just be drunk watching. He's passionate.

Yeah. And that's what I love. As I think a lot of the times, you know, I don't know how it is about the music industry, but with stand-up, you just meet people that you go, you don't really like this shit, and it bums you out. It is. It's a bummer.

Yeah, because you go, fuck, you're just a hooker. It's, yeah, it is the most, I mean, you're offering somebody, something that it's deeply spiritual and, and just important to other people, and you're just giving it out for money. Yes. It's disgusting.

It feels the same. There used to be a strip club in Montreal, all called Super Six, right? It was sick. And his Superman logo, it's fucking awesome. The Joe List. We were up there in 2012. It was both of us still drinking.

Joe List was like, let's go get lunch at a strip club. And I was like, as you do. As you do. Good deals. Great burger. Good price. It wasn't bad. It was actually a pretty good burger.

And then we got lap dances. And this girl, I just felt, you know, I was one of those guys that would just fall in love with one girl and be like, no. She loves me. Yeah, but this girl, I mean, was trying to rub the skin off me. Yeah. And I was like, dude, I really fucking take like my hands. And so then we do the festival.

And I just signed with like a new agency. And the agents get up there on the weekend. And they're like, bro. You know, they got a big bro energy. And they're like, we've got another fucking strip club, bro. And I'm getting hammered with them. And I'm like, yeah, hell yeah. It's like Saturday night.

So this is like the A team. My girl's going to be there. Yeah, that's what I was hoping. I was hoping. I go, oh, I wish I could have checked the schedule. Who's on the lineup tonight? Oh, fuck, oh, fuck. I need Rosalind.

But we go, we go to Saturday night, and it's packed. I mean, Lists and I were there, and there's like 10 people there. And we go, and it's fucking packed. And it's, I'm with, at the time, I was with the CIA, and it's like some agents from CIA, and they're, like, dropping cards and money. So they get a good table. Whatever, there's just beautiful, not my girl, but just this beautiful girl. snack you can tell she's gorgeous and i was pretty drunk and i was like i had dance she's like yeah you can get a

dance and i remember the feeling of watching her check her phone while giving me a laugh dance that's what it feels like when you find out people are doing stand up for money where you go you just checked your phone yeah this is nickel back i know how long this song goes and she was like dancing on me and her phone was on like a thing and she went like she was on me and i saw her go like that and i went out It's like when your therapist checks the clock. Or falls asleep. You've had him fall asleep. Yeah, pulled it on me today.

Damn. Went like a, and I go, no, no, no, no. And he goes, sorry. Oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, he hasn't fully falls, but he goes, like. He nods. He nods.

Heroin nods. Straight up heroin. My bass player does heroin nods, but he doesn't do heroin, but he's just like, he can sleep. Sleepy, sitting up. Sleepy boy? Sleepy guy. Dude, sleepy guys. Dude, you got to watch it.

Because sleepy guys, that ass to suck to be genuinely asleep. sleepy guy and people to go, he's on heroin. He's on something. He's on heroin. Yeah. Because I've had friends when they're on heroin, they go, dude, I just didn't sleep last night. And you go, I'm not a fucking idiot. Yeah.

Where it's 3 p.m. and you're going like. Yeah. And you're also in a real good mood. I don't think, I don't think sleepy boys get this good. Usually sleepy boys want to go to sleep. Sleepy boys on heroin are like, dude, everything is. Everything is sick. You're like, no.

That's, that's one that I. never touched was good yeah the opiates let's do it dude pinky swear no opiates or else me and you are going to be putting on one hell of a variety show under a highway each other i go Marcus play me on hey you guys might have seen a meat and a handful of shit down the street that's fucking just in slacks just nothing but just slacks no underwear yeah man so I mean like growing up a child of divorce like that and smoking cigarettes. When you put your action figures away, there is like a retirement ceremony where you go. Put the jerseys in the rafters. Yeah, dude. And then you, it feels weird because like,

Big Jay and I talked about this. When people started sending me like wrestling figures, they're like sending to me, there was a quick moment where you just go like, boom, boom, and you go, no, I got nothing. I lost the touch. It's like trying to start a car. You go, and you go, no, I just ain't there. I'd have to get jumped through it. It was funny. They said it and I unboxed it and I was like, pooh, pooh, yeah.

That's what always made Shane laugh. Just the thought of someone sitting there going, like making the noise. Oh, look out. Or like sitting on your chest, you're like, yeah, motherfucker. Did you ever get caught by your like cool friends playing with toys? Like your friends would come over?

Yeah, they'd be like, what was this? Yeah. I don't even know. It's for my baby cousin. Yeah. My little baby cousins over here is the little baby. That definitely happened. Yeah.

Yeah. That's before I knew that I could just own whatever it was. Man. Just be like, yeah, that's my shit. I'm into that. Teach that in middle school. Yeah. It's the fucking Colin Quinn bit about teach kids how to fucking small talk.

Teach kids how to own what they like. Because I really feel like that is a message that would hit everybody. Yeah. Every race, creed, color, religion. If you just learned when you're 12 years old to go, because I like it. Yeah. My sister tried. My older sister tried doing that.

And they do that with like really, really big divisive issues. Yeah, but it's like maybe start small. Yeah. And then let's start with. Maybe we start at an approachable level to where then they can understand who they actually are. Comic books. Yeah. Comic books, toys, for horse girls.

Keep your horses up, babies. Dude, brush that hair. We all got to be more like horse girls. Be like horse girls. They love their shit unapologetically. Unapologetically clomping around this fucking room. Clomp, dude. Clomp for your soul.

Yeah, they would do it. And they could do the noises. Their hair is always braided. Yeah, always. Perfectly. Perfectly, dude, be more of a horse girl. We all should be. If we were, if we had a good society,

we would follow the lead of horse girls. girls well now there's like there is like adult horse girls now yeah they do like um you know like the stick horse yeah that might be that's holding on too long that's a different thing that's that's i would say let's let's let's early there's a there's a there's a point where we had to let go they have they got to let go let the horse run away let it go don't put a stick between your legs over the age of 20 nope because i can't take you serious But a 13-year-old girl that stands 10 toes down for her favorite, she can go horse knowledge all day.

Enjoy it. Great. Yeah. But maybe we let go around 14, 15, 60. Absolutely. That's what I'm wondering. You wonder if the shame of what it is in us letting go is what got us evolved. But then you go, I wish I would have just had 10% of that.

10% more to go, those are G.I. Joe extremes. Those fucking rule. Yeah. I'm not embarrassed by that. Absolutely. But there is also like, you know, I have a lot of friends, it's maybe says more about me, but I have a lot of friends,

adult friends who are still into wrestling, very into wrestling. You're one of them. My buddy Dwayne Trucks from Wiseport Panic. Yeah? He loves wrestling. Lemaire, obviously. I mean, lives it.

That's what all we talk about? He lives it. That's what we talk about exclusively. You know, so there is a certain point. But there's also a letting go era. Yeah. Because people don't realize when I was 18 to 23, I didn't watch it. You're not emotionally invested.

I can be. I can be. I'll tell you what, I got a little too excited for Brock Lesnar and Oba Femi. Oh, nice. I was trying to talk about it at the cellar with people and they were not having it. I went to a wedding that dude was at. He is scary, huge. Yeah, dude.

He is legitimately. Super nice guy. I mean, he can be. Yeah. Because everyone else is afraid of him. And his wife was with him. Sable. Sable.

Yeah, dude. I was like, hell yeah. What's up? Sable. So Sable. Thank you. Thank you for pulling it out of me for seven years. Sable came when I hit puberty and I was like, oh, this was meant for me.

The attitude era with them showing T&A the way they did, I was like this at an age where you couldn't get porn on your phone. I was like this fucking rules. Shout out to the Nitro Girls. WCW Nitro Girls never get the credit. Hey, I agree. They did it. I'll tell you. And it very well could have been at Sable, but for the sake of the story, just

that party you never really dies you know like I ordered a stone cold Steve Austin poster off of eBay for my gym. Hell yeah. And it showed up it was wrong a poster. I think it was Sable or like one of the you know, WWF like chicks and I was like

oh man. I wanted to be a beautiful woman. Oh, I wanted a bald puff badass. I didn't want this beautiful babe. Tristratus, not today. Yeah. I was so genuinely bummed. out and got immediately back on eBay. You go, you know, send me my fucking rattlesnake poster.

They, uh, that was one of the things my mom really made me laugh about when I was on the phone with Stone Cold when we were doing that cartoon with him. And I got off the phone with him and she was like, man, you were 12 years old again, but I really was. Because you're like talking to him. You're like, yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'm sorry.

I want heart broke your neck. I'm so sorry. I love you so much. But he's like, all right. Hell of you, man. Just fucking shit, dude. Hell yeah. Dude, the first time, it's what you're saying,

it's still in you. Yeah. The first time I heard his voice, the first time he popped up when I pitched the show to him, it was during COVID. When he popped up on that Zoom call, I was like, oh! Yeah.

Like, jump scare. Right. Same way I felt stand up New York when Chris Rock walked in the first time and I saw him in person. I was like, dude, you're fucking, you're like the reason I'm here right now. Bigger and blacker.

And he was just like, looked around and he's like, yeah. You know? And then, I mean, like, Like with music, do you have that memory of who you were in the room with the first time that you're like, oh, shit? Man, I mean. Like Rick Rubin is one where you go.

I mean, yeah, obviously like Rick. Created Def Jam. Yeah. I mean, walking in the room with Rick, that definitely felt. Was that at Shangri-La? Did you go to Rick's house? I went to Shangri-Lah, and he was doing an interview in the yard with Mike Campbell from the Heartbreakers. And, like, sick.

I just, I drove past and I was like, two of the most, like, I'd easily identifiable people of all the time, sitting and talking to each other. And I just waited in the kitchen. And then he came in and he was just like super stoked. That's the thing I really like about Rick is that he's, he's a fan first, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he works with people he genuinely likes.

Yeah, and he's maintained that for all these years. Yeah. He does some, you know. Well, he's crazy old rich guy. Also, big wrestling fan. That's what I was just going to say. Loves wrestling. Yeah.

Honestly, I probably think one of my highlights of my life would be able to talk wrestling with Rick Rubin. Absolutely. Because he's paid attention to the whole time that you can reference eras and he's, he's there. You'll be watching a SummerSlam and you're like, fucking Rick Rubin. Yeah. Right there behind the broadcast booth.

Yeah. I send him stuff all the time like my boy, Kevin Scott, bass player, he has a trio called the Wednesday Night Titans. I'll send it to you. Yeah. But they just play like old wrestling clips. Yo, I've seen that. Yeah, they play like Jazz Fusion over it.

Yo, where have I seen that? I might have talked to me after you did the Bonfire the first time. Probably. I might have talked to Kevin about it. Yeah, Kevin's the man. Kevin was with you. Yeah.

When we did that, because we were talking about Rocket League. We're going to play Rocket League on PlayStation and we were talking about yeah. Fuck, I think you might have said because it's cool as shit. It's so badass.

And that's awesome. They play wrestling in the background. while they jam. And it's, but it's like, they get like AWA clips. They get, they go deep. They go like NWA Charlotte,

like fucking 82 shit. Where you're like, damn, that's Tully Anderson. And Kevin was, he was really in wrestling. And Kevin was like a student of Colonel Bruce Hampton

who's like our southeast, like, um, and Colonel Bruce was in Slingblade, you know? Really? He was like the rotun guy that said like the poem.

Oh yeah. You know, and Doyle's apartment or whatever. And he's like, so Colonel Bruce, so now like when I work with Dwight Yoke, I'm I ask him about Colonel Bruce and stuff. Yeah, hell yeah. Colonel was like, everything is wrestling.

Everything is wrestling. He's like politics is wrestling. It is. Music, wrestling. It is. Putting people over. And that's what I love about it is like, you know, and I've said it a ton of times,

but when you're little, be a Hulk Hogan fan and when you're older, you're a macho man fan. There you go. Because you realize matron man made everyone look like a million bucks in the ring. And it was all about like him making the match look as good as possible. Brett Hart, same way. You could put Brett Hart in a ring with anybody.

Bruce Pritchard talks about this all the time on his podcast. Put Brett Hart in the ring with anybody. He'd make him look like a fucking world champ. There's this guy, there's a specific story. I forget the guy's name. They signed him to the WWF at the time. Guys built like a great God, looks good, good on the mic. They put him in a match.

Brett Hart was still part of the Hart Foundation. They put him in a match with Brett Hart and they're like, we got our next Hulk Hogan. This guy's fucking crazy. And then they put him in a match with someone else and they're like, this guy fucking sucks. And you're like, he was all Brett Hart. That's what led to Brett Hart getting the push.

They were like, oh shit, this dude is truly amazing at it. But I agree with the colonel. It's the same way in music too. Yeah. You want to play with people who want to make the whole thing elevate. Yeah. And when you play with people who are, you know, are occupied with themselves. Trying to put themselves over.

Yeah, it's just, it's really disappointing. Yeah. Yeah, that is. So when you're at Rick Rube, And he comes in the kitchen and he's just like stoked to see you. Is there a part of the back of your brain that you're like, what the fuck is my life right now? Absolutely. Shortly thereafter.

Like I mean, that that would happen time and time again. But I was working there and it was during the pandemic because I met him right before the pandemic hit. And then I went overseas and I came back because I had to. And then I just sequestered myself at Shangri-La. Really? And they had this guy, Dr. Johnny, who retired after the pandemic. because they had to bring him in every day to give COVID tests to everybody.

Yeah. And I was working in the chapel and the red hot chili peppers were working in the main house. So like I would sit and get my COVID tests like next to flee and Chad Smith. That's crazy. Just like.

Yeah. Anthony Ketus is practicing and new like, sorry man, I got to practice and you go, no, sounds good. You get your brain scooped. You're like,

no, no, my God. It can go good on the fucking song. And he goes, You have to have an aneurysm to make those noises? Or how does it work? That's, but like, do you feel when you're in that situation,

you got the red-out chili peppers in the main house and you're working in the other house? Is there a sense of jealousy of like, how much Rick time are they getting? Because I feel like that's where I would go. I'd be like, you didn't even listen to my new riff. You know, like I saw it when my boy Tyler Childers worked with Rick. Yeah, hell yeah.

I saw like his footage and I was like, Rick's in the room while the band's planned. Like, he didn't do that for me. Yeah. And I was like, I sound like such a bitch. Dude. I was telling my wife that and she was like, dude. Shut up. It was probably, he was just that one day.

It was probably just for that video, like, stop being a bitch. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, you're right. That's what I always used to do where I'd be like, Luisie K didn't bring me on the road. And she'd be like, dude, who cares? Katie's like, you don't need to go on the road. You're adlining yourself and you go,

here I know, it would just be really nice to be asked. I'm being a bitch. When you realize that, you go, fuck, I'm being a bitch. It's a tough one. Find a good woman to call you a bitch. That's what you need. At the end of the day, that's what you need. You need to go nut up, what the fuck are you talking about?

But not in a way that you take it personally. It just points out like. It's perspective. They love you. So they're telling you, hey, you're, and again, this is something that I think is common with people that watched that grew up without parents loving each other is that you go well i don't think anyone loves me and you go they do you're just you're going back to an old program setting yeah oh absolutely where you're like fuck dude fuck but i want rick rick because i would that even you telling me that i go i know

exactly my insecurity would lie yep that if if rick ruben wasn't down at the house the whole time going sit and cross-legged being like damn yeah this is better than a big show choke slam i'd be like yeah right I'd be in my own fucking head about it. I know. But when you're making the album with Rick Rubin, are there, and you see him, his influence,

has put his fingers in it, is it the moment where you go like, damn, you are, your motherfucking Rick Rubin. There were moments of that. A lot of it was just retrospective in seeing like how much he made me do it myself.

Yeah. You know what I mean? How much he kind of isolated me to be the one to call the shots. Yeah. And how much bad behavior I had to unlearn from having lived at that point, like two or three years in Nashville at that point and just trying to construct a hit. Sure.

Because Rick's forcing it out of you. Yeah. Rick hates commerce. He hates creating for the sake of people buying it. I love that. It's like you got to create for yourself. But he wouldn't really tell me any of this directly. That's a good sense.

Yeah. He was a sensei 100%. He's just like, no, now you're learning. Where you go, I made this, and he's like, finally. I'm just waxing Rick's car. Yeah, he goes. His car collection can suck my dick, but still, I learned a lot from it. Yeah, there is, you know, I think you do have those people that teach you like, hey, relax, you're doing it.

You know, Colin Quinn gave me one of my greatest notes of all times. He's basically comedy, he's Rick Rubin. He really is comedy's Rick Rubin. And there was a moment we were doing a show, and this was fucking 10 years ago in Woodstock. We're doing the Woodstock Comedy Festival, and he watched. my set and he got off stage and he did the like thing you know the aggregate he's like you he's like you write all these jokes and you don't perform him he's like he just fucking stand there and fucking say your jokes and he's like perform them yeah you spent the time writing it

you spent the time do it fucking perform the joke and you're like damn you go to l.a and you go oh they're all performing their jokes wow new york we just stand there and we go business my joke and I wrote my joke then you go to l.a and you're like these motherfuckers are selling no i know i i get the same way man. Really? I go see people. I'm like,

yep. And the crowd goes crazy for like, like I went to a Billy Strings show and like, yeah, Billy will, he'll, fucking rules. I mean,

he rips and like, we started out together. So like, really? I didn't know that. Yeah. We both moved to Nashville around the same time. We were neighbors.

That's sick. Yeah. That's fucking sick. It's kind of one of those things. You guys have just jammed. Yeah. The thought of Marcus King and Billy Strings jamming is just making me go like,

the fuck the fuck is going that's fucking awesome yeah man and but you were saying you watch billy strings yeah like watching billy's show like he knows how to work a crowd yeah and like you know it's the same thing again i talked to my wife about she's like yeah you do just kind of stand there and i'm like well okay i'll i'll perform a little more you know what's funny is it similarly like uh we went this is a couple years ago katy and i went and saw Nate he was doing this like giant theater in New Jersey and we were watching him and afterwards we were driving home and I was like he's so comfortable and she was like you could be more comfortable she's like take your time with it's a good note and you go shit and then it is it's just like from watching someone that you know

that you respect and love and you go fuck I could I could probably use a little of that I don't remember who he said it to or who said somebody was talking about Ron White said if things are going really well slow down yeah things are going really bad slow down yeah And I take that advice before every show. Really? That is very good. And Ronald White's one of the gods. I mean, just like, the first time I went down to Austin, he was around the

mothership, I had to stop myself from calling him, sir. I do it. Because I love Ronald White. He was like, how you doing? He sat down. I was like, hello, sir. I know. You were the only thing worth of shit on the blue collar comedy tour.

You want to say something? You were the Bernie Mac of the white version of Kings of Comedy. He's so sick. And it is like there is a thing that is, and you know what I'd say? Everything is wrestling. Yeah. Because that's what, when you see celebrities, when they talk about doing the WWE stuff, like Steve and Amel or like the people that have done like real matches,

they say Triple H says fucking call slow down. Take your time more. And you're like, oh yeah. You don't realize it. Wow. Because I think that's for anybody in life. Even if you're at a fucking, even if you work in an office and you're like, this can, I promise you can apply to something.

just take your fucking time and slow down be present that's it man and that's the hardest shit the world that's the reason buddha achieved nirvana is because he slowed the fuck down and it just was there it was just present and just lived in himself i mean i try to apply it to every part of my life man like if i'm going to a wedding i don't want to go to with my wife i'm like i'm going to find somebody here that i can connect with over something yeah and like you'd be surprised like you meet like her friends like cousins, husband who also doesn't really want to be there, but he microdose his mushrooms.

And I'm talking to him about him growing mushrooms in his bathtub. You know, I'm connecting with somebody. Yeah, exactly. I went to a Katie had her high school reunion up in Boston. And I was there and I connected with all the plus ones. Yeah. Because we were like,

they did a full class photo and there was like me and three guys in a girl sitting around. I go, are you guys plus ones? Yeah. And they're like, yeah. And I go, fuck them. You want to get a plus one photo? Take a selfie. Hey, fuck Framingham High.

We're the real stars. No, but shout out Framingham High. Go flyers. Always. It's fly or die. You know what I mean? But yeah, man, I do think, man, in an age of digital isolation, where everyone can just be by themselves

and make themselves feel crazy, finding that time to slow down and connect with people. You know what I miss? It's like connecting with like small talk at like grocery stores and shit. Yeah. doesn't happen. Like, I don't miss drinking, but I'm misconnecting with people through drinking. I've just gotten to the point where I can go out and really just like, I can have a few

Heineken NAs or. Yeah, shout out, Heineken Zero. Thank you for making it taste like Heineken. It tastes so good. It tastes just like Heineken. Like a Guinness Zero is fucking awesome too. Give me a club soda with a lime. It makes me feel like I'm having a little bit of a.

I'll go to an airport bar and have a fucking club soda with a lime and end up talking the way that I used to talk when I was doing two shots in a beer. Yeah. We were like, oh, fuck, I'm talking to this roofer from Cleveland. His dad died. It's a comfortability thing. Yeah. And what I realized is like going out, it's like, I don't have to lower my, like, I mean, you do,

but it's because everyone else does. Everybody lowers, the veil has been lowered. Yeah. And you can do it too. And it is, that's what they said in that book that I used to quit drinking, the easy way to stop drinking. He's like, there's a whole chapter about the social angers. of stopping drinking and he goes, you're the same as you were when you were six years old and

you went to a birthday party. You're scared and nervous for 10 to 15 minutes. And then 30 minutes in, you're playing pool with a guy you just met and you're like, oh, this is actually fun. You know, that's how I feel. Like I'm like, oh, yeah, just give it a little bit of time. It's also nice when like, we went to a wedding and Katie noticed it. She's like, oh, you stay the same intelligence and everyone drops down and you go, yeah, and that's what you're going. Yeah. And that's you know it's your time to leave. Yeah. When you're seeing people be too stupid, you go, I got to go.

I always tell my wife it's like nothing after the second location. Yeah. Yeah, you've been listening to Jack Donagie from 30 Rock. Yeah. Never follow. Of course, Lemon, you never follow a hippie to a second location. Well, yeah. Well, there's definitely that.

I've always followed that. You know, that was born into my fucking brain. I didn't follow a hippie to a second location. Yep. because we were at this wedding and it's like, oh, we're all going to the bar. And it's like, oh, this bar closes at 11. We're going to go to so-and-so's room.

I'm like, that's where it stops. That's where I'm out. Yeah, and your friends, Bert's really cool about that when I'm on the road with him. He knows I don't want to hit a second location. So he'll get me out to like, all right, we did the show on the tour and then we go to this place, like Florida, Alabama.

Yeah. But you ain't going to get me to the thing. Right. The next place is where my bed, and my steam deck is at. I used to do drugs. I would always go to the after party and then I would end up in like an apartment

with just like a lamp. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, just like some lawn chairs. It's just a cat that's not nice to you. Yeah. And you go, what are we doing here? I just like cutting it up on like a Bible. Yeah, dude, you go,

this isn't where I want to be. When I was drinking, I would like wake up on futons where I'd be like, how do the fuck am I on Long Island? Yeah. I'm going to ride a train back. Dude, I went drinking one time in Denver this is after I moved away and I came back

and I woke up in like an apartment with a guy I went to high school with that I wasn't even close with and I was like, what the fuck? He was like, you were hammered last night and you're like, how far away from you? Like trying to find out where my mom's place is. Like, how the fuck am I going to get home? Had a lot of those.

Yeah, but now that's the best part of growing, getting over that. Now you go, that's the relief, Rigo. I never have to have that moment again. Never have to wake up and be like. Yeah. waking up and you go exactly where I went to bed. You know exactly what I said to that person I don't like.

Yeah, exactly. That's what it is. It's like I truly think that's the most refreshing part is like almost finding out. Everything we've been talking about, whether it's like stuff you want to make or playing with figures and stuff, it's just like ownership that you feel that you go, I don't need to do that anymore. I'm okay with that.

Yeah. There isn't like I'm better than anybody or my life is better. You just go like, this is who I am now. Yeah. It's the ownership. Absolutely. Horse girl mentality.

Buy, listen. Don't buy, listen, and then buy. But listen to everything that Marcus King has ever made. Because I promise you he's one of the most talented human beings walking on this planet right now. To watch him play guitar live is truly one of my, like, I've got to do it a couple times. You fucking rip. Look out if you, how many, are you going to do another one of these blue note? Man, yeah, I'm doing the blue note right now.

So keep an eye out for that. It's all on my weather. website. Yeah. Marcusking.com. Marcuskingofficial.com. I got to mention waltz across Texas is happening. We're playing stage coach and then we're just working our way across Texas, baby.

Sick. We're playing all these old, you know, dance halls and like honky talks. With the Marcus King band? Marcus King band. That's fucking awesome. We're trying to do a documentary around it just to, you know, shine some light on these old hockey tongue dance halls. Like Flores Country Store and Halotay's, Texas and Green Hall.

out in Green, Texas. So if you live in Texas, be on the lookout for that. Be on the lookout. A lot of people on the Instagram and stuff saying there's no Texas states, but it's its own thing, baby. Yeah.

Which is great. They go, no Texas dates? And you go, how about I just give you your own fucking tour? Get your own thing. We'll go play in some old school venues. You're the man. I'm so glad you came by to do this.

Thanks for a man. You're one of the best.